How to Install Mojave on a 5,1 Mac Pro OFFICIALLY
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2018
- In today's video I'll be installing macOS Mojave on my 4,1 Mac Pro that I flashed to a 5,1 Mac Pro WITHOUT using any patchers. Official installation process only. This video is made in real time- I am figuring out how to do this without looking it up or reading any guides. I simply sat down to update the system as anyone would, so this video isn't necessarily a 'step by step' guide. As an update to the end of the video, the graphical glitches (macOS only by the way) have gotten much less noticeable, and are usually fixed when they do occur by unplugging the monitor and plugging back in again. Additionally, I am using DVI because my monitor only supports 144hz over DVI (old monitor, no DP), so running over DisplayPort or HDMI may run smoother. Also, it's likely that you won't have to perform 2 firmware updates, I just saw the first one under High Sierra because I hadn't gotten into the Mojave installer, so it's likely that you'll only have to do one update.
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I don’t even have any older Mac hardware but I watch every video he makes. He’s a good content creator
Indeed. Makes we want to get the same old metal Mac Pro from 2009-ish..
That makes me wish the "New Mac Pro" Apple says they are making... just put. modern components in the same form factor and I would buy one! Easy to upgrade... add heaps of ports, great cooling etc... it would Make Apple Great Again.
CD drive opens to allow you to do an EFI restoration if you accidentally brick your Mac Pro's EFI chip. I HIGHLY recommend you create the EFI restoration CD and keep it handy just in case; I had to spend $150 on a new 5,1 backplane...
Great video Luke!
Well that's cool.
Begs the question, for a firmware upgraded Mac Pro from 4,1 to 5,1, which is the correct EFI restore CD? 1.8 (4,1) or 1.9 (5.1)?
What did you do with the previous backplane? There is no way to repair it? I mean, mine died as a result of Fimware! so this is fault on the part of apple and not the user :0
The reason we can't get boot screens is because the GPUs need a special BIOS in order to communicate with the Mac Pro during the EFI boot process. It is very impractical for Apple to create one for every GPU on the market; that's why they created the 5770/5870 and the 7950 Mac Edition; those had special flashed BIOS. MacVidCards is made by a user from the MacRumors forums where he flashes GPUs with a modded BIOS - there are some very recent GTX cards in there (not that good for FCPX unfortunately.)
There are several ways around not having a boot screen using Boot Camp however. BootChamp is an app I have used that allowed the system to reboot into the Windows drive WITHOUT the system defaulting to that drive. It's free and pretty slick, just a simple menu bar icon.
I highly recommend reading the forums on MacRumors, the people there are super knowledgeable about this stuff and are generally pretty nice!
Joao Eduardo Soares e Silva You're right, I remember looking for a Mac pro on ebay back in 2009 and thinking "wtf these apple branded GPUs are a rip off, can't i just use a normal card." Where does the time go.
OH MY GOD- I have been looking for an app like BootChamp for SO LONG, THANK YOU SO MUCH
MacVidCards is a fucking sham. They never respond to emails. Never trust this 1 man operation from a shady garage.
I love his channel because I love macs. Keep up the great work Luke!
Great video! Keep making awesome content!
No boot screen on firmware 138.0.0.0. But with the latest firmware they gave us x16 pcie support on non EFI cards. And firmware updates without an EFI flashed card. This is still a major improvement over previous firmwares. Also we got the lastest Spectre and meltdown patches.
highvoltage12v also gave 5.0gt/s to most unflashed cards that didnt get it
What firmware version includes these patches? Is it 140.0.0.0.0?
Miguelle Millo yes
Miguelle Millo wait no this is 130.0.0.0
This was an informative video. Please stay on 4K quality always, it looks great.
Good video about this install process. I also don't get X16 support on my RX 560 card. We also by chance both have the Gigbayte second gen models. They don't require a 6 PIN power connector unlike the 1st gen models. OH, well. Have you tried installing a second RX560 yet to see if the machine performs better in FCPX editing.
Glad, you are still making impromptu videos. Keep em coming Luke.
Thank's, you solved a issue that I was searching.
Cool. I like this style of video!
Thanks for making this video!
I have a 2008 Mac Pro 3,1. My friend installed Mojave and applied some patches. I bought a used Metal supported GPU on eBay. It was plug and play. The computer works.
Great video Luke! :))
With and cards u can still access recovery and u can boot into bootcamp through startup disks in system preferences
I'm still rockin El Cap on all my systems. 2010 5,1 mac pro and 2011 15" Macbook Pro.I record audio so I tend to stick with what I find to be most stable. Also Love Mountain Lion. Not a big fan of Apples new file system. Love your vids Luke. Keep em Coming.
7:19 For that animation, it seems to use an icon of a Cinema Display on the Mac Pro, but still uses an icon of a Mac Mini for that system. Interesting…
The Apple Boot screen is firmware that's actually installed on the GPU card, there are loads of videos on RUclips showing you how to re-flash the GPU's with the firmware required to get the boot screen.
The Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition shows the boot screen and also supports Metal! It is pretty expensive to buy new though.
Thank you ! Great video! I have tried watching a few on this topic. Yours was the easiest to understand by far. I am also curious about the possibility of getting a thunderbolt port to work on these machines. Mine is a 5.1 mid 2010 Mac pro I hear it can be done on these Macs but you have to run windows to accomplish it. Any thoughts?
Upgraded my 2008 eight core mac pro now it's up to date and faster than some gaming pc's nowdays lol
Thanks Luke for this great video, and last one thing can i back again to El captain OS?
Thanks man :)
great, thanks luke
I'm a bit more sceptical doing this to my mackintosh, but it has to be done!
don´t forget to download more ram after every clean os reinstall.
And a threadripper or two for background tasks.
What about a gtx 1080 for running fortnite in the background?
What do you mean by downloading more ram ?
Smartypants if you don´t know what I mean, you don't need it.
please can you tell where that ram download came from? i see it all the time
Super Drive (DVD/CD) tray opens because the legacy OS used to come on discs and was then automatically ejected after installation.
Do you need the GT120 in place to be able to update the firmware?
I’m a big fan of used and older apple tech, I use an iPhone SE and I don’t know what I’ll do when it’s beyond support but I love this phone, I have a 2011 21.5” iMac, 2007 24” iMac, 2009 21.5” iMac and a 2009 MacBook Pro. I just love the simplicity and value. I use to have three more iMacs.
Is it still usable for video editing? 4K included?
Hi Luke, thank you for all the great videos. I have a mid-2010 Mac Pro running High Sierra. I'm looking to update the video card so that I can upgrade to Mojave. I got a XFX RX 560 but ran into issues and I was not getting any video output so I returned that.... Could you recommend a video card fully compatible, even if I don't get the boot screen, that doesn't break the bank. I don't need much, not a gamer. Thank you!
I've got a nice clean 2012 5,1 mac pro I've slowly been bring up to speed and have Mojave installer sitting on my HD ready to install but as i have a MOTU audio interface and a huge bunch of software plug ins for music plus a couple of DAW's I'm not quite ready to commit yet, hopefully someone will do a newer video of an official installer of Mojave on a 2012 mac pro with a metal card like the GTX 760, that I'd be keen to watch.
Have you tried any updates of Mohave after initial installation. I am running a mid 2010 MacBookPro 6.1. I installed 10.13.1 using the patch procedures found on other youtube installation guide without a problem. I was able to update twice to 10.13.2 and later to 10.13.3 without any problems and without any patches except I was prompted to update the patch that allows the dark mode to run. Today I tried updating to latest 10.13.4 with new apple News plus and the install froze on reboot where the new OS gets installed. I tried booting into safe mode, tried resetting the NVRAM, both failed. In the end I booted to restore mode and used time machine to go back to 10.14.3 and it is working as before. I guess I will have to wait to see how others are fairing with 10.13.4 updates on older systems. I was always a little worried about updating Mohave, wondering when it would fail on my old MacBookPro
Hey Luke, i have a mac pro 5,1 that I was able to upgrade to Mojave by following the process on your video and using GTX 680 that I flashed to mac to have boot up screen. Are you planning to put out a video on how to upgrade your mac pro 5,1 to Catalina? and if so, Are you going to be able to do it without using a patch?
will Mojave update fix the High Sierra shut down issues I've been having for the past months? Mac Pro 2009 5,1 updated.
You can reinstall the GT120 back for boot screen purposes. (after mojave is installed)
(the reason you can't install mojave with the GT120 in the machine while installing mojave is because the installer blocks it.)
I run the same exact setup for mojave and windows 10 (GT120 for boot screen and 1080Ti for main GPU)
does using a GT120 or HD 5770 for boot screen GPU in these Mac Pros ever cause issues with the main GPU? Or do applications just use the better GPU by default in OSX?
How do you run 1080TI if there’s no Nvidea Web Driver for Mojave
Something I can't seem o find a solution with will boot camp still work?
Okay so I brought a few of these for work and someone updated using a rx580 instead of the gpu that came with the machine... its now blacked screened any ideas? thanks
So how do I get the audio to stop crackling while using a audio interface
Could you buy a 2012 Mac Pro and upgrade it to the latest OS, add graphics cards, etc. ?
I am thinking of buying one but don't know if its worth it or not & you have not done one on this model.
Hi luke, how are you? Look, I have the same machine, the Mac Pro 5.1 Mid 2010, I did practically everything you do in the video, I downloaded OS mojave and I started to install it, it asked me to restart to update the firmware and at that delicate moment I was interrupted light I start again and nothing appears I said well I will put the previous graph (5770 the original factory, before I used the RX580 and it does not have a boot) the issue is that I did everything reset the PRAM SMC everything I even tried to restore the Fimware through the CD 1.9 and I don't know what to do, I'm talking to you from Chile and I'm your fan: 3 thanks to you I learned more about mac :3
I liked the video as always!
However, there is one thing ..... the audio is pretty poor and bouncy.
Lavalier microphones are not that expensive. BTW ... how about a video about audio in filming ;-) in the near future? :D
Greetz Mike
Yeah I currently use a Blue Snowball, which is fantastic quality for the price and operates over USB, but I need to get some XLR mics and gear, infrastructure that I currently don't have. I also just put a decent amount into upgrading my video gear (new camera coming soon) so I'm fine with my audio situation for now
Okay and thanks for your quick response. A better audio would add more quality to your videos. As far as the image quality is concerned I am absolutely fine. I like your setup for lighting!
I seem to get an error circle anytime I restart. If I power down and turn back on no issue, it only happens with restart.
so I have a 2012 Mac Pro EMC 2629 2.4 GHz x 2 for 12 cores and at some point will want install two 3.33 GHz processors. Will I be able to do so after updating the firmware? (also - it came with an Nvidia quadro k6000 will I need to install a stock card? )
Great! I end up on using the patch to install Mojave on a test SSD (convinced it wasn't supported),
and there's a half second of green screen. A bit more
Hello, any idea why the flickering was happening? I'm getting it on mine. A 5,1 with an RX580. Is there a fix?
To be able to install Mojave, is High Sierra 10.13.6 required first or can you install Mojave on an empty SSD directly?
hi, i have mac pro, my card is ATI RAdean HD 5770 1024mb i do push power botton, but the firmware didnt update. i dont know what can i do. please. i try to install high sierra.
THANKS!
I have a Geforce nvidia GT 710 GPU from asus. Is it useful to upgrade to mojave?
Question i up dated to Mojave from High Sierra Is Installed BUT I Have 2 Displays and Now Only 1 Will Work The Other One is on But Just Black and it is Not Recognized in Dysplays System Presence any Idea Thanks
I have high sierra on a mac pro 5.1 with dual cpu 3.46 and 64 RAM. My video card is a Radeon mx580 8Gb. Do I need the original video card AMD 5770 to be able to install majove ? Thanks
I have a Mac Pro 5,1 and I replaced my card (Metal Supported)...Once I replaced the card I’m not able to able to receive signal to my monitor...I’m currently running Sierra..Also I’m trying to upgrade to High Sierra officially from the apple store and I receive an error stating the install is corrupt and I can’t update with it...Please advise...
Hi, I have 2012 Mac Pro with OSX Sierra and I installed a Radeon 560, but I'm having issues trying to upgrade to Mojave, can I do a clean install to Mojave without upgrading to High Sierra?
sound crackling and crashing when put to sleep, these are my problems, any ideas?
Do you have a sound (HDMI & DP port) with rx?
Luke, do you know if the HD 7950 sapphire Mac edition will support metal?
Yes the 7950 , 7970 is support under metal , even the rebadge R9 280
EFI boot in macs don't recognize non Apple Branded GPU's because something about the GPU firmware. May be some GPU works in the boot, but no the regular ones.
(In sorry for my English, I'm from Spain)
Could your Mac Pro still run Mojave if you removed the RX560 and reinstalled the original graphics card?
Luke how do we install windows 10 on a mac pro 2010 5,1. Bootcamp does not seem to support it?
firstly thank you very much for useful video,I have a question if possible can you help me please? I am using mac pro 5,1 and I have 2 graphic cards installed; ATI Radeon 5770 and NVIDIA Quadro K600..so can I upgrade Mojave with this NVIDIA Quadro K600 graphic card? can I use Mojave with this Graphic card? thank you
Dear Luke, we work with Mojave on a MacPro 5,1. Very Successfully, but yesterday the OS X crushed and we need to reinstall the Version 10.14.5 But it isn´t to find in web. Can you help us eventually?
I have never seen a macOS installation in real life. I would also like to be able to create a bootable macOS USB installer, but I don't have a Mac. I did manage to get a copy of macOS Mojave from another person's Mac, but I just copied the installer over to an external drive and not by doing the createinstallmedia command in the macOS Terminal. So what can I do to copy the installer over to a drive AND make it bootable on Linux? From my understanding, I could try to use a 16GB+ drive, create a small empty EFI partition and a larger HFS+ partition on which to put the installer file and make those two partitions bootable. The problem is that I don't have any Mac to test the installer on and see if that trick works, so I'm basically on the outside looking in. What could I do?
I have this same Mac Pro early 2009, updated firmware from 4,1 to 5,1. Installed Mac OS High Sierra. But since I have the stock GT120 video card, I guess I can't upgrade to Mojave. I can only hope that High Sierra is usage for the next few years (mainly web browsing is normal)... Alas.
So the screen flicker happens a lot or what's up with that? Has a permanent fix been found?
HI, my name is Ivan. I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 with MacOS high Sierra and just made a bootable disk of mojave I created it with disk creator app. I tried booting with option key held down as I click on the power button but it doesn't go to the disk screen so I can choose the mojave installer. so I shut the computer back down and rebooted normal and when it booted up to my desktop. I opened system preferences and clicked on the start up disk tab and it only shows my Mac disk and not the installer disk. What can I do in this situation? and also could this be because Im running a newer graphics with metal support?
I realize this is an old video but do you remember what version of macOS you had installed on the Mac Pro prior to installing Mojave? I know you said in the video that you did not want to install High Sierra.
I have a mac pro 5.1 with (Mid 2010) with 2 x 3.46 Ghz 6 core intel Xeon,
64Gb of RAM
Radeon RX 580 8 GB graphic card
and currently using OS High Sierra 10.13.6
Where and How can i upgrade to Majove ? I tried a patch and got this message :
1. MacOS Mojave Patcher
Natively Supported Machine
This machine is natively supported by Mojave; you do not need to use this patch. It can still be used to create a USB drive to be used on another machine.
What do you suggest sir ? Thank you for your help.
What graphic card do you recommend for this system?
Are NVIDIA web drivers available for Mojave?
where did you Get the installers from ?
Love your content bro! Hope you find a solution for this.
Restart fixed it (see 9:26)
hey when i updayed to mojave. its just a black screen when i boot up :(
have you heard of running open core on your mac pro?
does this look correct I was under the impression that to run Mojave a mac pro had to be 5,1? Apple Mac Pro 3,1 8 Core dual 2.8 GHz 8GB Ram 1TB HD OSX Mojave 10.14.6 . I gave my 12 core 5,1 to a service shop to upgrade to Mojave and got it back now it just doesn't boot even with the original card, they offered me $50 after charging me $300. I told them to take a hike
Isn't the boot logo issue related to BootCamp? Maybe there's an update that fixes that problem. Otherwise I'd use GRUB to multiboot Winblow$ and macO$.
am i suppose to have a black screen while it installs?
I wish you were in Toronto Canada! I need help with my mid 2010 Mac 5,1. I’m having issues upgrading from El Capitan to high Sierra . It prompts me to do a firmware update and when I do it, it just keeps resetting . Any thoughts or advice ?
are you using the GPU that came with the 2010 Mac Pro? It might need that card to be in the Mac to do the upgrade to firmware. after that you can remove the crappy GPU
Did you receive a cannot connect to server issue when trying to login to icloud, anyone?
luke we got the same logitech speakers
I bought a macpro early 2009 as you have , it is working with yosemite, then you recomend upgrade it to the new one?
Jesus Escudero is it dual CPU or single?
What is firevault?
What's the model number of the mac pro
My 5,1 will stay on High Sierra after doing the Mojave update. It has a metal supported Nvidia card. I unlocked fire vault, and firmware is up to date.
Hi Luke, thanks for your video. My flashed 4.1 has to wait until Wednesday when I think Apple releases Mojave officially. For your boot screen: is your Radeon Pro 560 a PC card or was it supposed to run in a Mac Pro? If it's a PC card you may have to reflash the GPU's firmware so it is recognizable in the early stages of the boot process. However it may be hard to get a proper firmware image even though apple uses Radeon Pro 560 in the 15" MacBook Pro and 21.5" iMac. I suppose that in the iMac it is not a PCIe card but a mxm interface while in the MacBook Pro the chips are soldered to the logic board. So even if there was someone to extract the firmware from their iMac or MacBook Pro it may not be flashable to your card.
The iMac cards are also soldered, and while it is possible to flash RX 560s (and 570 and 580s) there aren't any specifically made to work in the Mac Pro. It's mainly an inconvenience, but I wish they would offer native support since the basic GPU is nearly identical
Done the firmware updates. Now I get "you may not install mojave because this drive is missing a firmware partition". Finding a clear answer on how to fix this is an extraordinary challenge. There are a few rambling semi-coherent fixes but nothing that makes total sense.
There are sellers selling GPUs flashed for Mac for 180 and above on eBay. It's what I did and I like my 7970 GPU. Supports 4K
What about VBios flashing rx560 to apple.
I'm planning on upgrading my graphic card and convert my standard HDD to SSD as well as the upgrading the ram to 32GB. I have a mid 2012 Quad Core 5.1 3.2Ghz Mac Pro. Once I upgrade the hardware, then I will upgrade the macOS High Sierra to macOS Mojave. I am going to wait a few months til like December. To make sure all the bugs are worked out before I do any installing of the macOS updates. I want my machine to be running efficiently and fast.
NO ! do the mohave update FIRST, then the hardware. I have upgraded CPU and GPU and stuck at the firmware update thing. most likely fix is goning to be hacking the installer :(
Steve Oakley I have to upgrade my graphic card cause it is not Metal-compatible to macOS Mojave. I’ve been researching it for a while. That’s my conclusion as a result. The graphic card in my machine is stock version of Radeon HD5770 that came with it when I purchased the machine.
Rodney Williams yes correct. just do the graphics card that will make the installer happy. once you have the update done, do the CPU's. RAM doesn't matter.
in the end I worked around the problem by taking the boot SSD from the tower and moving it to drive dock on MBP. I was able to boot the MBP from it, update ( which took hours ) then move it back to tower and its running... now if nVidia would release 10.14 compatible drivers!
Steve Oakley That’s was my thought exactly. But I don’t have a MBP. Again, the video card and SSD will be the solution for me. Your suggestion makes sense and it’s logical. Nvidia drives me nuts when it comes to updates for the drivers. I don’t know if it is me or them. Just saying.
Nice video. There is still a slight chance that the final Mojave release gives bootscreens to non official GPU’s however that is quite unlikely indeed. There will still be a possibility to get bootscreens; flash a HD7950 or GTX680 with an available Mac EFI, both support Metal. Or alternatively, buy a modded videocard from MVC..
actually most of Radeon 7000 series :)
Only why to get boot screen is to have a flash video card. That not up to Apple to deliver on it. Mac OS is a software . Flashing video card is software to hardware.
I have a boot screen using a vega56 from a razor X gpu.
@@2guysvintage699Razer X is an external gpu enclosure. your stock gpu is still in your computer, which is wh you still get boot screen.
mine gives a missing firmware partition error
electronically a full X16 slot would run at x8, so you have one at a full x16 and another at x8.....
I went out and bought a 4,1 that I flashed to 5,1 because of your videos. My only problem so far has been that messages and FaceTime won't log in. Is that an issue you have on yours also?
Upgrade your WiFi and Bluetooth card for continuity etc.
I need some cheese grated. Can you help me out? Seriously, thanx for the support here!
it updated my firmware before it installed Mojave automatically by itself on my Mac Pro 5,1
What was the final firmware update? It wasn't 6.1, was it?
6,1 is totally different Mac :)
Hi bro I have a doubt , can I use I mac 2011 as display for mac pro 5.1
No you can’t cuz you need thunderbolt in the mac pro
WHY ALL OF THIS OLD VDOS STILL RUNING AND COMING UP ,THY ALL DONT WORK
That CD drive's makes me LMFAO! xD
They all do it I watch a tech up grade a mac to 5,1 but then he managed to destroy the computer when he was asked to install a GPU and up grade to Mojave for me
Dying to know. Does Mojave give you the annoying 32bit moving into a 64bit world reminder like High Sierra did?
So, just a question as I looked up the 2010 Mac Pro and here www.apple-history.com/mac_pro_mid_10_2 it says that Yosemite is the max that can go on the machine. If so how can Sierra, High Sierra, and Mojave go on it?
Due to the massive community support we have managed but also due to the quality of original mac pro 5,1 there are many existing drivers that apple and community have provided. also in most cases u need too do fresh install rather than update and mostly depends on graphics card. mac pro is natively supported as an after thought by apple thru mohave, providing criteria is met.But I wouldnt suggest trying if you dont understand
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