History of the Hawken Rifle - Muzzle-Loaders.com
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- This is a breif history of the famous Hawken Muzzleloader Rifle. The Hawken Rifle has one of the most interesting backgrounds of any rifle in history! We hope that you enjoy this excerpt from The Muzzle-Loaders Podcast as we discuss the storied past of this amazing muzzleloader.
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The owner that you don't name from the 70's was Art Ressel. My father, Doug Scott was one of his builders.
That's awesome! Thanks for the clarification!
Great video with great information. I think the half-stock plains Hawken rifle is the most beautiful style of ML. Especially those that are a bit more plain (pun intended). We should be thankful for the movie Jeremiah Johnson to make this wonderful firearm popular enough for repros to be made.
Iirc, the Hawken brothers never produced half-stock plains rifles in flintlock. They surely existed, but as far as I know none of them are stamped by the Hawken brothers.
I couldn't agree more!
Correct. Jacob and Sam Hawken made exactly one flintlock rifle, in the winter of 1822-23, for General Ashley (Woodfill, 2017c). At that time they were not really engaged in the business of rifle manufacture, instead making their living repairing the broad variety of implements required of the fur trade (including firearms of other manufacturers). It was not until 1830 that the two brothers entered the business of manufacturing rifles of their own. Not a single flint lock rifle survives that has their markings on its barrel, so it is broadly assumed by knowledgeable Hawken historians that they simply never made any. Percussion caps were by then readily and widely available, lending further support to the notion they never produced a flintlock (save for the one produced for Ashley).
My understanding is that the first half stock hawkin was made to order for Kit Carson the legendary scout. For the most part, the large number of Hawkins were full stock. The legendary fur trappers predate the mass migration to the west. Many seeking a new life would begin in St Louis and it was the legend of the time to get a Hawkin! There were other guns like trade riffles but they were made to trade to the Indians for deer skin…. The origin of the term Buck to describe a US dollar! Trade guns were not that well made for this reason.
I would not be surprised to learn that some Hawkins may have been fitted with flint locks in the field. But should this be true, one would expect the lock to be of English origin or possibly one off a trade gun. But evidence to support this is lacking.
The bulk of Hawkins of recent have been half stocks going back to the Thompson I first saw in the seventies. Many orig Hawkins are full stocks. So it’s almost as if the Kit Carson hawkin became the model of choice for reproductions. I know I like it’s lines better.
The twist is an open question. Some felt the 1:48 was used. I have seen 1:60 used mainly for balls. I have seen 1:72 used . I would like to know what the original twist really was?
Great information here. Funny how my own mentality isn’t much different from that of the mountain men of the era. Personally given the option I’m going flintlock because I can get what I need for the rifle that way easier. Of course finding round balls or conicals isn’t exactly easy right now either
Ty
GOEX black powder production will resume in 2023 under new ownership.
Really, awesome!
A long way from the original but I shoot a T.C. Hawken. the barrel was rusted badly when I got it so I had to replace it. The club I shoot with shoot round ball so I found a 1:66 twist. I kind of wish I'd gotten a 1:48... but that is water under the bridge now. I like the look of a Hawken gun.... I wish I shot it better, so Its time to work on that.... but there are no percussion caps!!
Who is still producing the (original) Hawken?
I believe that it is a place called The Hawken Shop.
How bout Goex ceasing production of BP
@@aaronwilcox6417 No way, are they!? I just got setup to make my own thank god. Not easy but I only have one BP gun so far, more to come.
You can make your own from traditions for as little as $400 and a prebuilt one for $50-$100 more