I'm sad you put grav forfiet on here. It gives such insane invis uptime that it's weird I don't see more people using it. It also gives you a 400/600/800% melee regen buff with 0/1/2+ enemies nearby and this works on prismatic. I was using it to get my melee back every ~11 seconds and just chain it back to back with withering blade
The “buff” Bungie gave Secant Filaments actually made it like 50% worse in PvP (the only place people actually use the exotic). It basically has the same issue Ember of Mercy had a while back.
I honestly disagree, the increased mobility and jump height lets me use my void stylish executioner glaive setup to have a constantly loaded weapon and make it across half the battlefield while invis. It's really fun to use, and completely different than running my syntho/glaive with grave robber
Fun fact about the Thagomizers: thagomizer is the name of the spikes on the tail of a stegosaurus. It was given the name by the cartoonist behind the Far Side series.
Eye of Another World was one of my first exotic armor pieces and has been a key factor in my ‘canonical drip’ as I like to call it. Basically for every campaign and cutscene I play I use the same (or slight different) drip simply for the sake of consistency. I just like the thought of my Guardian having ‘canon’ or ‘main’ clothes he wears when playing the ‘main story’… And when I play a new campaign I always wear the same thing, including this exotic. And then I realize how bad it feels and that I wish so badly that it would be better because then I switch over to a good solar or prismatic build and that absolutely goes hard. In conclusion: even though I don’t play the game anymore, please for the love of the Traveler buff the exotic.
3:23 I'm actually a big fan of gemini jesters its actually pretty useful in the crucible. It's a good way to see people behind walls (it damages them, allowing you to see their tick) and can really catch those who really overuse radar off guard. In pve, it's also pretty decent in low tier stuff blinding enemies and killing them with arc melee. Also, I got a fire fashion set to make it look good and I also just like daito.
Also, no, don't combine it with bombairders. Gemini was doing it first. If anything, bombairders should be folded into it/s But genuinely, no gemini has its own way of blinding, like going through walls and being a wave all around you. And it is also instant. It's a different kind of blind that could be buffed but is still pretty decent.
@@Forcer69meh, it's still pretty good at what it does and can really fuck with people in the crucible where it was probably intended to be used. Blink with gemini jesters is really potent and can catch people really off guard it's not overly broken to where it needs a nerf it's just an exotic used well its pretty good used poorly it's bad, and also it doesn't completely blind you so it still allows the victim to fight back if they're good at the game.
@@Forcer69pve sure could use something more, I guess. Like maybe blinding actual bosses and stuff (it used to blind champions believed they changed that) or, as it's perk name suggests, misdirecting enemies to attack other enemies.
7:41 My warlock actually has one of these masterworked on him right now, along with 100 Resilience, Discipline and Recovery. Combine it with Prismatic and the new Solar Super, and I’m spamming abilities and mass producing orbs of power left and right.
Achlyophage was handy back in vanilla D1 for blasting all the oracles during Atheon's fight, at least. Less handy after they changed how Atheon selected people to teleport, though.
The thing about blight ranger was I remember after it first released it WAS good because of a bug causing reflected projectiles to deal ludicrous amounts of damage I think if they added that back but maybe scaled it down a bit would be all it needs
Honestly, I think bing bong's too scared to give any huge buffs to Armament. Or maybe the power fantasy of "throw more grenade" is it. Anywho *FIREBALL* (ashen wake fusion nade)
I've said it a dozen times and will say it again. To me it feels like Destiny is held back by Crucible Sandbox way too much. It could be so much more without having to constantly balance around pvp in mind. And often they dont even balance seperately and exotics get nerfed for pve and makes it an instant "dust in the vault"...
I actually like the claws of ahamkara, it was my go to strand exotic until matiadoxia came out. I've been thinking of doing an incinerator snap build around it somehow
Ik the helmet ain’t in the video but it reminded me of a helmet I like in D1 and man. I miss my eye of the third man forcer. I miss her alot. What I would do to have her back. (Same with glass house which is in this video too.)
I love triton vice with edge of concurrence on base arc. Jolting and blinding explosions with a delayed arc blast shortly after to finish them off. Fave build to use on my hunter in any content other than grandmasters.
I noticed the buff to eternal warrior, though it won't change what they took from me (bottom-tree striker, light-attack kills in super lasts longer). Also, it's ugly af and that's why I really don't want to use it.
Gemini jester rework idea: grant it a class change similar to Ice Fall mantle, dodging activates a smoke bomb effect to happen around the Hunter. Standing near an enemy causes them to affect by the smokebomb.
Claws of ahamkara has been attached to me since D1 and even in D2 I never took them off. Now with the exotic class item I've instead moved the perk into the exotic class item and added in spirit of necrotic so now I have poison on top of everything. I love it.
I talked to friends about how bungie could make an exotic give song of flame self rez and after seeing purifier robes it would be cool to bring back this cool looking exotic with the perk to give song of flame self rez.
I love the idea of combining exotics or swapping some functionality. Bungie would have to overwrite instances of the exotic that didn't make it and probably make it an ornament of the one that did. Or, in the case of them being on different body parts (blight ranger and Raiju for example) make it a legendary ornament with functionality with that exotic.
Spirit of Cyrtarachne’s night be one of the few exotic class item perks that’s better than the original, since you can spec into gunpowder gamble and just have constant grenade throwing, thus more woven mail
I only use eye of another world if I really don't know what other exotic to pair with my build. The free ability Regen buff is pretty nice but overall it's better to go for a more focused build with a different exotic.
Eye of Another World is actually really stupidly good, but the fact that it doesn’t do anything particularly unique holds it back… also, it’s kinda ugly.
I really like Claws of Ahamkara extra melee while using Song of Flame goes hard. You can also make more orbs via grenade and melee orb mods. Makes some of those Solstice bounties really easy.
Gwisin still holds a special place in my heart, when forsaken came out you'd sometimes get 2 minutes of super if you could chain kills long enough and be the absolute tumour of crucible
For Blight ranger make it so at the cost of either charged melee/class ability u could deflect shaots like unbreakable aspect on titan combined with Antaeus wards
I REALLY think Secant Filaments was meant to get a change, along with any other exotic that mentioned a specific subclass. It would just make sense to tie anything like that into a super element now, given prismatic exists- wouldnt make them any less viable for pure element subs either. I was actually so excited to use SF when final Shape dropped, since I was SURE it was gonna work. 😢 Imagine having devour on Empower rift cast, AND Hellion, AND Bleak Watcher. the ultimate "nah imma let these guys handle it" build
Ngl the main reason im glad for prismatic is bc i dont have to use arclock for amplified anymore. Still have to use the super unfortunately but it’s better than the whole subclass.
If Eternal warrior was untied from the piece of shit that is fists of havoc it would immediately rise in popularity. I'm already hearing good things about it on the exotic class item
Honestly, Graviton Forfeit’s effect is actually pretty good in D2. The problem is that there’s simply just better exotic options for void and other subclasses. Not bad, just not as good as the other options.
I found uses for Arachnid after Taken King came out: The extra time you get to have your super out + the zoom in means you can get all three kills from relative safety. It might not be as valuable in 6v6 PvP modes, but in 3v3s like Trials... it would be a godsend. People still use Gemini Jester in PvP all the time. It's super obnoxious in Trials. I'll ask you to stop dissing my boy Purifier Robes. The disorient actually made self-res safe in Trials. In our current sandbox, it wouldn't be great (as mentioned, Gemini Jester but worse), but I feel like emitting a constant blinding effect in an aura around you while Song of Flame is active would be an interesting alternative for this exotic's effect.
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Balance Of Power is gonna be useless in PvP now anyway with the nerf to Threaded Specter and the only reason to run Threaded Specter in PvE is either GMs or Onslaught, but you can use Mothkeeper's Wraps instead and get 3 moth grenades that can stun unstoppable champions and can blind enemies and other champions as well so Balance Of Power hunter boots have even less utility or use due to Mothkeepers having stronger utility and overall ease of use since you just throw a grenade and we all know it's easy to get your grenades back as well.
What about the ram for the warlocks i loved that thing i paired that with the perk to build super and grenade energy and have fun punching away and using a shotty as a warlock or maybe i was a warlock tuning into a titan? 😅
If you learn anything from this just know the best looking warlock armor is most likely for the worst exotic in the game.
you forgot about mask
I'm sad you put grav forfiet on here. It gives such insane invis uptime that it's weird I don't see more people using it. It also gives you a 400/600/800% melee regen buff with 0/1/2+ enemies nearby and this works on prismatic. I was using it to get my melee back every ~11 seconds and just chain it back to back with withering blade
Phoenix Protocol would disagree
The “buff” Bungie gave Secant Filaments actually made it like 50% worse in PvP (the only place people actually use the exotic). It basically has the same issue Ember of Mercy had a while back.
I will not stand for this Graviton Forfeit slander
Maybe the true forgettable exotics were the employees we lost along the way
yea this guy is just lost
Yeah 😞
Employee (timelost)
Absolutely brutal lol
Sealed ahamkara grasps are for those hunters that don't want to commit to being a titan
Even better when paired with stasis/stasis melee on prismatic
I honestly disagree, the increased mobility and jump height lets me use my void stylish executioner glaive setup to have a constantly loaded weapon and make it across half the battlefield while invis. It's really fun to use, and completely different than running my syntho/glaive with grave robber
@@Data-AnalystSera need to try this out. what galive you using?
Fun fact about the Thagomizers: thagomizer is the name of the spikes on the tail of a stegosaurus. It was given the name by the cartoonist behind the Far Side series.
Gary Larson is his name
@@FlammableRadish Ah, thanks random citizen!
Dang. Tikonaught so forgettable it didn’t even make it in here.
What even is that?
Eye to another world gives a hidden +30 to int, disc, and strength. Thanks to that I have 4 100s.
I thought it reduced cooldowns by 50%? Or does it do that in addition to the stat boosts?
I don't think it gives additional stat boosts.
@@catburger8451 it gives CD reduction, not extra stats.
eye 100% breaks the cap on cooldown. ands its like that since D2 vanilla.
Eye of Another World was one of my first exotic armor pieces and has been a key factor in my ‘canonical drip’ as I like to call it. Basically for every campaign and cutscene I play I use the same (or slight different) drip simply for the sake of consistency. I just like the thought of my Guardian having ‘canon’ or ‘main’ clothes he wears when playing the ‘main story’… And when I play a new campaign I always wear the same thing, including this exotic. And then I realize how bad it feels and that I wish so badly that it would be better because then I switch over to a good solar or prismatic build and that absolutely goes hard.
In conclusion: even though I don’t play the game anymore, please for the love of the Traveler buff the exotic.
Cyrtarachne’s being here is insane lol, it’s 50% DR for just using a grapple and I’ve seen a lot of recommendations for it as of late
Unfortunately the exotic class items mean some exotic armors will never be used.
3:23 I'm actually a big fan of gemini jesters its actually pretty useful in the crucible. It's a good way to see people behind walls (it damages them, allowing you to see their tick) and can really catch those who really overuse radar off guard.
In pve, it's also pretty decent in low tier stuff blinding enemies and killing them with arc melee. Also, I got a fire fashion set to make it look good and I also just like daito.
Also, no, don't combine it with bombairders. Gemini was doing it first. If anything, bombairders should be folded into it/s
But genuinely, no gemini has its own way of blinding, like going through walls and being a wave all around you. And it is also instant. It's a different kind of blind that could be buffed but is still pretty decent.
I used to use Gemini a lot back in year 1, but nowadays it feels weak on its own.
@@Forcer69meh, it's still pretty good at what it does and can really fuck with people in the crucible where it was probably intended to be used. Blink with gemini jesters is really potent and can catch people really off guard it's not overly broken to where it needs a nerf it's just an exotic used well its pretty good used poorly it's bad, and also it doesn't completely blind you so it still allows the victim to fight back if they're good at the game.
@@Forcer69pve sure could use something more, I guess. Like maybe blinding actual bosses and stuff (it used to blind champions believed they changed that) or, as it's perk name suggests, misdirecting enemies to attack other enemies.
I was thinking of a fun combo but I want to know if it’d actually work, does anyone know if Gemini would mix with threaded specter?
7:41 My warlock actually has one of these masterworked on him right now, along with 100 Resilience, Discipline and Recovery. Combine it with Prismatic and the new Solar Super, and I’m spamming abilities and mass producing orbs of power left and right.
I kinda hope we get the Thagomizers back in, like, Revenant or something. They’ve got a really unique silhouette.
Bro forgot about sealed ahamkaras grasps, that how forgettable
Risk of rain music in the background is peak
Helm of Inmost Light was my GOAT back in the day
Triton vices right arm looks like a fucken lobsters crusher claw
That’s the point it’s based off of crabs, look up carcinization
Achlyophage was handy back in vanilla D1 for blasting all the oracles during Atheon's fight, at least. Less handy after they changed how Atheon selected people to teleport, though.
The thing about blight ranger was I remember after it first released it WAS good because of a bug causing reflected projectiles to deal ludicrous amounts of damage I think if they added that back but maybe scaled it down a bit would be all it needs
Honestly, I think bing bong's too scared to give any huge buffs to Armament. Or maybe the power fantasy of "throw more grenade" is it.
Anywho *FIREBALL* (ashen wake fusion nade)
RISK OF RAIN mentioned let's go😂
I miss my hunters crest of alpha lupi it was beautiful
I use ballidorse wrathweavers on my stasis warlock.
I've said it a dozen times and will say it again. To me it feels like Destiny is held back by Crucible Sandbox way too much. It could be so much more without having to constantly balance around pvp in mind. And often they dont even balance seperately and exotics get nerfed for pve and makes it an instant "dust in the vault"...
Would you prefer it if PvP were a hero shooter where you could play as NPCs? Saint 14, Ana Bray, Eris Morn, etc?
@@axelkusanagi4139 you mean with preset loadouts?
@@Rushgarroth yeah. Maybe even double exotics
I actually like the claws of ahamkara, it was my go to strand exotic until matiadoxia came out. I've been thinking of doing an incinerator snap build around it somehow
You should, I love using it with Song of Flame.
arbor warden should have a radius nade effect, armementarium should max out reserve ammo for both special and heavy with its extra nade charge
I like the risk of rain 2 music
4:47 Glasshouse my beloved ❤
Ik the helmet ain’t in the video but it reminded me of a helmet I like in D1 and man. I miss my eye of the third man forcer. I miss her alot. What I would do to have her back. (Same with glass house which is in this video too.)
I love triton vice with edge of concurrence on base arc. Jolting and blinding explosions with a delayed arc blast shortly after to finish them off. Fave build to use on my hunter in any content other than grandmasters.
I noticed the buff to eternal warrior, though it won't change what they took from me (bottom-tree striker, light-attack kills in super lasts longer). Also, it's ugly af and that's why I really don't want to use it.
Gravaton forfeit is not forgettable one of the coolest exotics in all of destiny
Skyburners Annex was only used for taken fashion fr
1:44 fortunately, Graviton Forfeit is absolutely goated in D2. Neverending invis makes gms into a breeze.
Voidfang vestments
Gemini jester rework idea: grant it a class change similar to Ice Fall mantle, dodging activates a smoke bomb effect to happen around the Hunter. Standing near an enemy causes them to affect by the smokebomb.
armementarium still doesnt work if you already have two grenade charges like on arc titan, same with the hunter one for more knives
Did you know that with the two knife chest, you will get three stasis melees during the stasis sections of beyond light?
EtAW is just a great subclass neutral exotic for people that just want to use their abilities more often but tier 10 is out of reach
Cyrtarachne has a special place in my heart as a contender for ugliest exotic in the game (alongside khepri ofc)
Claws of ahamkara has been attached to me since D1 and even in D2 I never took them off. Now with the exotic class item I've instead moved the perk into the exotic class item and added in spirit of necrotic so now I have poison on top of everything. I love it.
Make a video on the best looking armor pieces and sets in the game
Saddest part is some of these armor pieces look good af but the exotic perks make them unusable 😒
They should be ornaments then
If belladorse wrathweavers were less chunky I might use them
You had me at Chanson d'Automne.. (Risk of Rain 2013).
I talked to friends about how bungie could make an exotic give song of flame self rez and after seeing purifier robes it would be cool to bring back this cool looking exotic with the perk to give song of flame self rez.
I love the idea of combining exotics or swapping some functionality. Bungie would have to overwrite instances of the exotic that didn't make it and probably make it an ornament of the one that did.
Or, in the case of them being on different body parts (blight ranger and Raiju for example) make it a legendary ornament with functionality with that exotic.
What they did to skull of ahamkara is absolutely unforgivable
here for the video, but just loving the RoR ost
i love that you use them in your vids
Spirit of Cyrtarachne’s night be one of the few exotic class item perks that’s better than the original, since you can spec into gunpowder gamble and just have constant grenade throwing, thus more woven mail
Deflecting with Bright Ranger would give so many orbs that you can keep your fireteams super recharged fast
I only use eye of another world if I really don't know what other exotic to pair with my build. The free ability Regen buff is pretty nice but overall it's better to go for a more focused build with a different exotic.
Eye of Another World is actually really stupidly good, but the fact that it doesn’t do anything particularly unique holds it back… also, it’s kinda ugly.
I really like Claws of Ahamkara extra melee while using Song of Flame goes hard.
You can also make more orbs via grenade and melee orb mods. Makes some of those Solstice bounties really easy.
Gwisin still holds a special place in my heart, when forsaken came out you'd sometimes get 2 minutes of super if you could chain kills long enough and be the absolute tumour of crucible
Alchemist's Raiment looked so cool, but it's perk basically is a ghost mod in D2
Bellicose is still used in D1 speedruns. Specifically to extend power slides.
For Blight ranger make it so at the cost of either charged melee/class ability u could deflect shaots like unbreakable aspect on titan combined with Antaeus wards
Added function idea with gemini, a few seconds after dodging should grant a buff idk for like 5 seconds that blinds targets on precision hits.
I REALLY think Secant Filaments was meant to get a change, along with any other exotic that mentioned a specific subclass. It would just make sense to tie anything like that into a super element now, given prismatic exists- wouldnt make them any less viable for pure element subs either.
I was actually so excited to use SF when final Shape dropped, since I was SURE it was gonna work. 😢
Imagine having devour on Empower rift cast, AND Hellion, AND Bleak Watcher. the ultimate "nah imma let these guys handle it" build
I use Cyrtarachne's Facade with the whirling maelstorm aspect. A build that I use effectively both in GM and in dungeons or raids.
Claws of Ahamkara are my pvp exotic for warlocks. Combine them with Monte Carlo and Stasis melee and you become a bastard.
Glasshouse and HoIL were my go-to's as a kinder guardian. Makes me feel old ngl.
Still waiting for Bungie to rework Skull of Ahamkara. I mean, going to do it for Titan and Hunter super exotic.
Ngl the main reason im glad for prismatic is bc i dont have to use arclock for amplified anymore. Still have to use the super unfortunately but it’s better than the whole subclass.
If Eternal warrior was untied from the piece of shit that is fists of havoc it would immediately rise in popularity. I'm already hearing good things about it on the exotic class item
Honestly, Graviton Forfeit’s effect is actually pretty good in D2. The problem is that there’s simply just better exotic options for void and other subclasses. Not bad, just not as good as the other options.
Man has never watched cammycakes. Half the hunter armors were on Cammy's daily rotation ong
Didnt expect a Risk Of Rain song here
I like the look of that spider looking helmet for the hunter. I think I even used it at one point
Cyrtarachne's is highly used by skilled players to solo gms and is very good for survivability in strand hunter
4:27 I loved that helmet i wish it would come back but probably not because we have that one exotic SMG
i will NEVER forget the glasshouse
I want Blight Ranger to be good enough that for at least one specific boss it was the best option for DPS somehow.
The last perk on skyburners annex looks like the attrition orbs icon
I found uses for Arachnid after Taken King came out: The extra time you get to have your super out + the zoom in means you can get all three kills from relative safety. It might not be as valuable in 6v6 PvP modes, but in 3v3s like Trials... it would be a godsend.
People still use Gemini Jester in PvP all the time. It's super obnoxious in Trials.
I'll ask you to stop dissing my boy Purifier Robes. The disorient actually made self-res safe in Trials. In our current sandbox, it wouldn't be great (as mentioned, Gemini Jester but worse), but I feel like emitting a constant blinding effect in an aura around you while Song of Flame is active would be an interesting alternative for this exotic's effect.
Destiny RUclipsrs are in a unique position. In theory you guys could collaborate together and help bungie employees. Contact bungie employees and see if it's feasible for them to try to unionize. If it is then RUclipsrs can help support them in their effort by making a video urgencing your viewers to drop Destiny until the employees are unionized. I don't know if that can be done but it is a thought
Obsidian Mind if added to D2 would change the nova bomb back into the shatter bomb while the 3rd center one would become lance
Imma be honest I use some of this just for the fashion
Also based risk of rain 1 and 2 music choice
GOD i love ror
RISK OF RAIN MUSIC LETS GO
Why are all the best looking ones so mediocre lol
Can confirm as a Warframe player that Tarantella would fit perfectly in WF.
Cant believe he made an entire video about Eye of Another world
I feel like they should just merge raiju and blight ranger and make raiju affect either storms edge or gathering storm.
Skyburner's Annex was my most-used D1 exotic armor piece, oof.
Love the risk of rain music
so forgettable seems to be light beyond nemesis because i had to search it up to find its name i forgot that badly
I actually think the ballidorse wrathwreathers are the best looking lightfall exotic (besides the abeyant leap)
The fact that hunter exotics released with expansions over the past few years have been horrible just saddens me
Façade was a good helmet back when Strand was introduced, now not so sure
I only use Armamentarium for strand subclass because i want double grapple.
Cyrtarachnes facade is pretty amazing. Its free real estate
Too bad eternal warrior is ugly as hell so even with the changes ill never use it
I love balidorse’s look
honestly I use ballidorse and the damage output is hecking nuts
They should swap skull of dire ahamkara to be for Nova Warp instead of Nove Bomb
The fact that the most useless exotic in the existence of destiny, the mask of the quiet one, was not included proves its the most forgettable
Balance Of Power is gonna be useless in PvP now anyway with the nerf to Threaded Specter and the only reason to run Threaded Specter in PvE is either GMs or Onslaught, but you can use Mothkeeper's Wraps instead and get 3 moth grenades that can stun unstoppable champions and can blind enemies and other champions as well so Balance Of Power hunter boots have even less utility or use due to Mothkeepers having stronger utility and overall ease of use since you just throw a grenade and we all know it's easy to get your grenades back as well.
If triton vices weren't for hunters I'd love it hell they don't use them anyway
What about the ram for the warlocks i loved that thing i paired that with the perk to build super and grenade energy and have fun punching away and using a shotty as a warlock or maybe i was a warlock tuning into a titan? 😅
Don’t touch my slacks
Funnily enough I still use Graviton
Did mask of the quiet one get a buff? I haven't heard anyone talk about that exotic in a long time