Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney #20 - Turnabout Succession ~ Day 3, Trial
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With all the information we have so far, we are sure to find the real murderer.
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Part 20
Turnabout Succession
Day 3
Trial
Stream: www.twitch.tv/slyzer
Played by ZSlyzer
Recorded using DeSmuME 
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lets just take a moment to appreciate the fact the judge thought his wife had naturally red nails.
Elizabeth Dragonclaw XD
39:43-39:46 they're looking at us.
This judge can be very precious sometimes
S IND Ikr!
Wait I thought The judges wife had red nails LOL XD
Never, ever mess with Wright's badge. Vengeful Wright is the most terrifying Wright.
mydia023
Of course he is! Now what will he show to everyone he meets?!
Yes genius phoneix wright
Boi waited 7 years to get his revenge.
@@avatarwan5824 boi travelled in the time
Don't. You. Dare. Mess. With. His. Dang badge. Or else he'll shame you by Guilty-ing you.
Kristoph: "After all, it's not easy to bring some poison into court."
Dahlia: **cough** **cough**
I think they tried to repeat the same plot of Dahlia for Kristoph. My opinion: that's was fine, even weak
Jezail: I will drink water from this bottle and prove it has no poison, island monkeys!
@@DraceEmpressa oh yeah her-
*sorry I do drugs*
@@meepbeep2464 that one blooper
"Owning the same nail polish does not a murderer make." - Kristoph Gavin
so Yoda
@@IceBlueLugia it's poetic
its grammarly incorrect loo
DeXoGSA actually i think it’s fine
DeXoGSA no it’s actually correct
A trial between Kristoph and Von Karma where all of the evidence is forged and the judge is like “oh wow this is all real I can’t believe this”
No because I now want to see an ‘all guilty’ trial (SPOILERS FOR LITERALLY EVERY ACE ATTORNEY GAME BAR GAA1 and AAI2)
• Manfred von Karma as prosecutor
• Callisto Yew as defence attorney
• Kristoph Gavin as counsel
• Matt Engarde as defendant
• Detective Fulbright as investigator
• Seishiro Jigoku as judge
• Yanni Yogi as bailiff (I know he is innocent for DL-6 but he did still kill Robert Hammond)
• Dahlia Hawthorne as special witness
Kristoph: “WRIIIIIIGHT”
Karma: “EDGEWOOORTH”
@@P1r4n I think Damon Gant would be better as detective
The trial would be extended by a day and Kristoph would poison von Karma
then Winston Payne would be assigned to the case and get humiliated.
ONESHOT.
22:06
I love how despite his banter at calling Apollo "Herr Forehead," he actually drops his playful demeanor and calls him by his true name in serious moments
Kristoph increasing the penalty was cool but Godot with his unlimited penalty was just badass
Another connection exists. Both Godot and Kristoph were criminals.
Godot is God ot
@@VuotoHSR Kristoph is a evil psycho.
Godot killed to protect and could have escaped
Godot Coffee I don’t call Godot a criminal, he was just trying to protect Maya from Dahlia Hawthorninmyside!! *I meant to burn her*
Godot killed on self-defense. He's not a criminal, I don't understand why he got a death penalty...
"Common citizens have something called 'common sense'. Common sense is not restricted by the law."
Most savage line to ever come from the Judge.
Love this line implying that no one in the actual courtroom has common sense
(Then again... yeah he's kinda right)
Drew... Misham...
Oh god I finally get it. He "DREW MY SHAM" Ahhhhhhh
Whoa!
OH
*****DIES*****
HOLY C-
AND VERA AS IN VERIFIED BECAUSE THEY ARE VERIFIED SHAMSSSSS
Kristoph: "WWWWRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT!!!"
Phoenix: "hiya"
Apollo : Silence
@@VuotoHSR shouldn't blackquill be the one saying that?
Phương Bạch yeah blackquill is supposed to be the one who says it *and only him okay?*
Apollo: Objection (face-slams the desk)
Kristoph: “Oh THERE you are, Phoenix!” :)
"Except for you, Kristoph. You aren't changing. You've stopped. You're not needed anymore." Damn
if I were kristoph I would have committed suicide already lmao. imagine hearing that from your brother
Dude really said 'youre obsolete'
Your Kristoph Gavin won't receive any system updates
Your Kristoph Gavin won't receive any system updates
Vengeful Wright is terrifying. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT mess with him and his badge.
He Will Come After You.
Tigre got off easy
@@borkerman and then he got arrested
without his badge what will he shove in everybody’s face to prove that he’s a lawyer
he will convict you of murder twice instead of once.
Kristoph's breakdown is great. Also, the Judge sounded smart for a few seconds.
40:16 "And this... Is... to go... even further beyond!"
@@sind5828 somebody has to do a meme about kristoph's breakdown but with ssj vegeta theme
Yeah! I agree. The Judge was so cool there lol.
In my opinion, it was very fitting. I always saw him as a wise old man, but the games keep potraying him the other way.
@@Taha632RMF he is kind of like that when yanni yogi confesses
39:44, Apollo, Trucy, and Klavier turn to face Kristoph as if to say "bruh. you done messed up this time."
Lol, I thought they were looking at the camera
I think it could be interpreted both ways! Either at Kristoph, or yeah, at us because we are the "audience" that is watching the court case on camera (:
iChuuuzeYou I think that they broke the fourth wall.
Andres E. Gomez M. It might be either one really. I'm not sure that it's meant to be tied to one thing.
d It is definitely meant to signify they’re looking at the jurists. It couldn’t be anymore obvious.
The Judge thinking that his wife had natural red nails was totally precious.
He is very charming.
Ribbit _ _ Haha Ik 😅😂
@@chaz8230 indeed that is a very lucky woman
I don’t see anyone else mentioning this, but Kristoph’s eyes through his glasses at 10:08 give me chills.
Unfocused, he is simply adjusting his glasses.
Focused, Kristoph is staring at you with such intent under the impression that Apollo can’t see them.
That and the damn devil on his hand... kristoph is truly evil! Cannot forget the way his mouth twitches too
Yeah, at first i thought the "twitch" was on his eyes, but it turned out that it was in the hand.
It's not an Ace Attorney game if no-one rages about Phoenix Wright!
+ThatScottishDude _ Investigations?
+Accel Rider X non canon they said
Paternus Owen
Really? Cuz I see no reason why.
Accel Rider X that is not part of the main series
@@Millacks i mean but is cannon with some characters
I always thought it was weird how they dragged out hard consonants. So, he's not screaming "WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!", he's screaming "WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGUHGUHGUHGUHGUHGUHGUHGUHGUHHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUHTUH!"
Like a starting car or something?
@@kofimoon-vv-8279 yes
@@thedeez5436 As I expected
But since this is the english language, it is simply pronounced "Wright"
Well, hasn't this picked up in the last month. And look, we already have our first "no fun allowed" guy.
Actually, if you stare really really hard at the verdict screen, you can just make out that the silhouette is a dimmed version of Lamirior's sprite. I saw that when I was thinking about the verdict and got the shock of my life when I hit confirm.
Apollo's bracelet was in his left hand and Lamiroir a.k.a Thalassa wasin her right hand which means she cannot be a jurist
CRISTINE DIOSO what?
@@cristinedioso7693 Well, technically she's not implicated on anything of it cause she's "Lamiroir".
And it's actually Lamiroir in 3DS/Android port.
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@@kellyjohana516 Thalassa Gramarye wasn't involved directly. But yes, Phoenix conveniently used that, and the new Lamiroir identity, to his advantage to create a biased jury.
Feeling bad for Klavier here though. Seeing his bro's true nature now that is really something no sibling to see after everything he has done just for reputation and being humiliated.
It's more than that. Klavier obviously looked up to Kristoph. But now not only does he realize that Kristoph is a manipulative sociopath but that he was ready to cheat and ridicule him with forged evidence in their first trial. He was fine with using him to get some fame
@@user-mx4is4fx3c yeah that hurts your role model turns out to be a monster.
@@foodmr2022 And then Shu Takumi did it AGAIN. OH SO MANY TIMES in ONE game . just murderer/ part of conspiracy instead of complete monster, but still.
@@user-mx4is4fx3c poor Klavier I just realize all he has gone through today reading comments in videos of AJ
Considering that Klavier is annoying. I felt bad for him a bit. However he did nearly destroy Wrights career so I feel bad less
Apollo said in this very case that he would do everything in his power to change the law... someday...
Spirit of Justice anyone?
I was about to comment that :]
Omg. You are right.
I think it refers to the Dark age of the law in DD actually
he didnt change the law he wanted to, phoenix wright did it in dual destinies
Just kind of realized
Spirt of JUSTICE
Kristoph is by far my favorite villain. He isn't some guy with incredible power or a crazy person who murders for some dumb reason. He is a cold hearted genius of a killer. His facade of a kind man who cares deeply about the law is there but doesn't hide the calm, maniacal brilliance and terror. He is somehow incredibly calm and intimidating at the same time. When his evil pokes out of his calm and smug demeanor, I get chills. His twitch of anger covered by a smug attitude is generally disturbing looking. His cold glares are terrifying and really feel like he is threatening Apollo with just just his eyes. Especially at 10:07. Where you can see him simply readjusting his glasses but under is a chilling glare of a murderer who notices that Apollo sees through him. He isn't scary because of a brutal murder or extreme use of power. He is a cold, cunning, and manipulative maniac who knows how to use the law and manipulation if others to get his way. His murders are far more brilliant and he clearly doesn't value human life as much as everyone else. This is at least what I picked up from him.
39:41 this scene really gets me, that 30 degree turn to the screen felt like both Attorney and Prosecutor were breaking the 4th wall...
Capcom just loves the idea of 7 years ago for anything in the Phoenix Wright world.
Ryan Hizon Phoenix: "So seven years ago I lost my sweetroll."
+Khold _ I guess 7 years is a convenient period of time.
+Ultimafire1258 well it's your fault that 7 years ago you were lollygagging.
+Khold _ Maybe that's the chronicle timeline of mega man...every game takes place seven years later after the previous game
lee gaming 7 years ago..... I took an arrow in the knee.
Seeing this, the best place for Kristoph is prison. Any position of power or any sort of freedom will just allow him to kill who he wants if they rub him the wrong way. He is clearly a sociopath.
Phoenix Wright still got him! lol. He made Kristoph go super saiyan. lol
To be fair he managed to kill even in prison, the only thing that could probably prevent him from doing so is death.
@@SaulKada uhh spirit channelling
Kristoph is straight up just a sociopath, he doesn't even have a reason as to why he is this evil (Dahlia was a decent young girl initially, corrupted by her parents to become the demoness we all know today, and Morgan is a salty ass prick having lost to Misty)
@@SaulKada To be fair, he effectively commited murder before going to prison. It just happened that the time bomb went off while he was in prison. Its not like he planned for it to happen when he was in prison.
@@theshermantanker7043 I know, so many mass villains actually had at least some causing motive in AA. Kristoph had one that was extremely well hidden and not known even to himself. For instance, Quercus Alba had power and money as a motive, “Yew” had a commitment to the ring, and Simon Keyes had revenge. If you could hold Engarde responsible for the death of not only Corrida but possibly even Celeste, I think he’s on par with Kristoph: just being generally an evil asshole.
And this is why Klavier becomes my favorite prosecutor in the series. Yeah, he's as arrogant as Miles and Franziska. But you can tell that he's all for the truth coming out just as much as Phoenix, Apollo, and Trucy are. Miles and Franziska just cared about their win records. Klavier, on the other hand, was all for bringing his brother down when he realized that he was, in fact, guilty. Good for you, Klavier!
PintheDog umm Miles also wanted to find the truth like Klavier , well before he was all about wins but he understands what it means to be a lawyer now. As for Franziska, we have not seen her for a long time and she is the daughter of Von Karma so who knows if she has changed or not
@@nataliasomething2972 you can tell by edgeworth investigations her way of handling things have changed
Hee Ho! Ah I forgot about investigations 😂 Ill have a look through it thanks !
Actually
Edgie doesn't care about losing or winning
Edgeworth never cared about winning or losing. He even defended a client before, both as an attorney and as a prosecutor.
For Kristoph to go this far all because he lost at a card game and was rejected by a client.
Overreacting much?
He's mad .Used large amount of money to forge evidence against his younger bro,a newbie at that time.
Since he was rejected,the money was useless,so....
No wonder Klav didn't want to help him.
Oooooooooooooooooh.
Um..explain that a little more plz.
Lamar Lemieux 31:15
Apollo said
the forge evidence was made b4 Kris lost at the card game.
so what was the forge evidence made for?to win the case
Oh OK the.
He learned from watching too much Yugioh as a child that card games are serious business.
39:31 "Common sense is not restricted by the law." LMAAAAOOOO
22:31
"I... Haven't given a penalty like that in a long time"
Is that a reference to the penalty of "Bridge of the Turnabout"? where Godot say "Why don't we go for the unlimited penalty?"
There is also this one time in Justice for all that you will lose all of your health (that's what I call it)
@@Scanvas3 If you mean the judge's double penalty it's still pretty big, but if you didn't earn a penalty before that, you survive with 10% aproximately. So godot holds the record for the biggest penalty so far
@@SaulKada Trust me, I didn't get a penalty in that case in Justice For All and its a one hit kill
@@Scanvas3 OBJECTION!
ruclips.net/video/h2hmOWtlHgE/видео.html
what else?
Let's appreciate that Klavier actually trusted Apollo, and his trust paid off
40:15 best breakdown ever
legendaryX77 he's turning into a super sayian
literally broke on the inside. "from beauty to beast" as some would say
It was the best breakdown
Until The Great Ace Attorney 2 happened (Hart Vortex).
"Your hand tensed unnaturally, and a little devil appeared to give me the news."
chills
"I couldn't think of anything to say. Maybe... Because I still haven't seen enough.
But someday, I'll know what law is... And I'll fight to change it, if I have to!"
Reading this after having played spirit of justice made me smile because of the satisfaction.
Kristoph: you dont have evidence
Jury: we don’t like you though
No, it’s because Phoenix literally RIGGED the jury, as Juror No. 6 is Lamiroir.
@@PokeTube Well, Phoenix himself addresses this before the vote. Lamiroir wasn’t involved with the developments of the case. It’s kind of a bending of the rules at most.
Lamiroir is only one of the six jurors, moreover. If Phoenix wanted to rig the trial, involving one out of six people wouldn’t be much of a push.
But then again, rigging the trial or taking revenge on Kristoph were never Phoenix’s objectives to begin with.
Dude, the guy literally told him that he did it and he just went "but I'm not confessing anything..." Because he knew that little loophole would get him out of it.
Like yeah, obviously they're gonna go "Kay then, get fucked" the guy was asking for it.
41:27
Apollo: But someday, I'll know what law is. And I'll fight to change it if I have to!
Those are... some pretty big references to a game released 9 years later.
Kristoph Gavin is the best Ace Attorney villain. No question. From his conniving and manipulative nature to the fact that he is one of the two reasons why the Dark Age of the Law exists, Kristoph is quite the character. I hope that they make some sort of reference to his fate from Klavier in the next installment of the main games.
It was something that took the judicial system and either left a big rip in it, or torn it asunder. This happened because Kristoph wanted to be famous after working so hard, he didn't even want to be associated with Wright because of how he was known. So the fact that he also did this because he lost the card game, and Zak didn't want him as an defense attorney, it is despicable, despicable enough to partially be the reason why the dark age of the law happened.
Batfreeze imo shelly de killer is the best villian in the series, even tho i dislike jfa
I actually think the phantom is the best villain.
one word:dahlia hawethorne
even if they are two words
fiddle Our favorite chairman.
Even after he fell from grace, Phoenix Wright was driving the whole thing behind the scenes and outsmarted the person who set him up from the beginning. Pretty badass
it's pretty odd though after getting disbarred it seems Phoenix had more authority in the legal world than he did before getting disbarred and after gaining his badge back he was back to being pushed around. Phoenix got his badge taken away for "forgery" yet he was still able to set up a test trial (which still counted as a real trial) for a new legal system what in the world.
@@sensorycomet55 it's probably cause Phoenix himself wasn't particularly interested in going higher up in the law excecutive ladder. He decided to make use of his influence gained in his years as an attourney(on top of the advent of the Dark Age of Law) to at least set up the trial so that Kristoph could be found guilty
@@sensorycomet55keep in mind that he IS friends with Miles Edgeworth who, at the time of this case, is Chief Prosecutor, through him Phoenix could have gotten to the Minister of Justice (if he hadn't already known them from, say, poker playing) and convinced them to try the Jurist System or to let him organize it
"Maybe...because I still haven't seen enough. But someday, I'll know what law is. And I'll fight to change it if I have to."
...That's some pretty fantastic foreshadow to a certain something.
Spirt of justice? With durke and stuff, right?
@@CreativeDirector65 Hell yeah~!
Shit, phoenix just pulled a giant behind-the-scenes backstab on Kristoph
I don't blame him, scumbag deserved it
He backstabbed his backstabber
@@magentasky234 Kristoph may have outsmarted Phoenix 7 years ago with the forged diary page, but Phoenix outsmarted his outsmarting with the Jurist System.
Which is poetic if you ask me cause Kristoph did the same thing to Phoenix Wright seven years prior.
@@suckerman7gm Is... is this a JoJo reference?
I don't think Kristoph was paranoid, I think his breakdown was the result of the hate and rage he felt against Wright, when the black psychelocks appeared he was still calm and was still calm against the accusation of forgery, the only thing that made him break was Wright staging the Jurist System, nothing more in my opinion.
He was already getting nervous when apollo cornered him, Wright was the last straw
Both Wright and Apollo broke his Black Psychelocks
@@Yayofangamer16 And who said that were broken?
@@CS_Oddities Breaking them by force via pressure can cause severe emotional, spiritual damage
What did he do when cornered to the edge?
@@Yayofangamer16 But literally THAT is what makes it special the franchise, the culprits practically "break", that has been forever, and does not mean that all have black psyche lock, apart from that, that description is from DD, the same game in which Phoenix himself says that psyche locks are INDESTRUCTIBLE
“Owning the same nail polish does not a murderer make.”
-Kristoph Gavin, Murderer.
40:30 I’m taking a high school forensics class (adding the high school part to communicate that I’m by no means an expert and I might be off here), and this line in particular is so interesting to me because my teacher argues the opposite. The law is not absolute, but a floor. A foundation of sorts. That’s what makes Gant and Kristoph SUCH interesting villains for me; they’re running off the basis that law *is* absolute, which is in a way why both of them fall (especially ironic for Kristoph, who’s reason for his fall is literal forgery and covering up his tracks).
At first, this part confused me, because I thought Kristoph was right. Law IS supposed to be absolute, right? It’s the good from the bad, the right from the wrong. But that’s black and white in. world of grey. Which is exactly what Klavier and Judge talk about. There have been so many cases that have shaped the law by revealing flaws and contradictions in the system, saying “law is absolute” is hilarously ignorant for a former attorney.
"But someday, I'll know what law is. And I'll fight to change it if I have to."
And you will, Apollo. You will.
32:12 Apollo pounding to the beat
41:08 Man, that some deeps words judge!
Well, I literally felt sorry for Vera. She is poisoned, lying in that hospital bed, not knowing when will she wake up, and yet she is a suspect in this case. Can't they wait til she wakes up?
They didn't know if she was going to wake up. Up to that point, there hadn't been any documented case of someone surviving atroquinine poisoning. If a verdict wasn't chosen then, there might've not been one at all.
@@omarkamil8043 Knowing there was a incredibly high chance she wouldn't survive the poison, was the verdict really important? There was more than enough evidence to indict Kristoph after all
@@SaulKada It's been quite a while since I've played this case, so please forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the evidence against Kristoph not counted since it was obtained illegally?
@@omarkamil8043 I don't remember much either, so I may be wrong aswell, but I don't recall anyone bringing that up during the trial. Regardless, it's stupid to deny the credibility of a piece of evidence just because of the meanings behind how it was obtained, it's still evidence and it's valuable to reach the truth (even if it's a dick move, like when franziska took that illegal photo of maya in the detention center)
Thank god she’s ok tho
I've just finished playing the android port, and It scared me how much detailed Kristoph's facial expressions got. For example:
- 12:03, in the port his eyes got way darker, almost souless.
- 25:06, yep, that one is as teriffying as ever.
- 39:06, in the port, you can see the veins on his face, almost ready to burst.
- In his after- breakdown sprite, his eyes get completely white, with some blood vessels surrounding the left eye.
And many more
I think those details are present even here, but due to the crap ds quality, we can't see them. I hope we can get the rest of the games ported the way this game got, not like the iOs ports, which are a failure.
JustJoking Is there a port!?
Raymond Shields you can get it on 3DS now
It suck that those ports needed wifi for some dumb reason
ScAnVas I believe because of Dee Are Emm
@@Scanvas3 start with wifi then turn it off
Everyone: *smacks table*
Klavier: *i'm sorry but i do my own thing*
“They’re watching by video camera.”
*everyone in the courtroom aggressively breaks the fourth wall*
....I will never get used to the whole, "Apollo is related to Trucy" thing...
i went completely crazy when i figured it out. i ran round my house screaming OH MY GOD!!! :D
The judge is really old fasioned,he doesn't even know what is a nail polish
11:07 That skull demon on his hand always scared the hell out of me
4:03 and this is the moment when Klavier really started to catch up on how deep this conspiracy with his brother goes... poor Gavin 😢
Phoenix Wright: such a badass that he'll turn the entire legal system on its head to get back at someone who set him up to be wrongfully disbarred.
The moral of the story being, of course: *YOU. DO. NOT. FUCK. WITH. PHOENIX. WRIGHT.*
And after the verdict was passed, the jurist system was abandonned and never used ever again in the games main series .
Whoa putting a new system for only one trial, i can't tell if it's dedication for catching one uncatchable villains or just bad planning
I wonder if the atroquinine poison is made from the Borginian cocoon?
you are correct
Well, its Kristoph Gavin CONFIRMED!
Ohhh perhaps it is!
Watching just about any case of Apollo Justice again really makes me appreciate that Klavier's a prosecutor... but this case especially!
Am I the only one wondering why the Jurist System was never even mentioned in Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies, even though the events in that game took place only a year later?
you're not the only one. They also seemed to change the definition of the black psyche locks compared to what they were implied in this game. I guess they said F it. We will pretend like some parts of apollo justice never happened.
Capcom officially announced in an interview that the judicial system wasn't well received by the ace attorney world in game, so it was scrapped and they returned to the old form of trials.
Muhammad Aziz Wait what? ....Why does that sound a bit contradictory when I think about it?
oh sorry typo
it was supposed to say "wasn't well received" :P
Muhammad Aziz Again, I don't see any evidence of that in this game.
41:28 casually hinting towards spirit of justice
It always kills me at 36:58 when Kristoph keeps the same pose, but the shadows on his face change to make him look more sinister
40:16 he went from “no” to *”behemoth screamith”* in a second
either my adhd meds haven't kicked in yet or "behemoth screamith" is hilarious. I think it's the latter
@@thatonecubchoo1541 Trust me, it is. I've been laughing like an idiot at it for the past few minutes.
At the end, the game is basically like:
"Do you want to win the game or not?"
None of the game makes sense. Each case has SEVERE logic errors that make them just never work.
@@PokeTube Explain. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some major holes in this game's plot - some of this shit is absolutely insane.
@@PokeTube *literally every Ace Attorney case in a nutshell
"The law is everything! Law is absolute"
- Kristoph Gavin
"The law is sacred!"
- Chuck McGill
41:29 "...And I'll fight to change it [the law] if I have to!"
AA6: *Literally changes the law*
spoilers
Foreshadowing
“ my wife has red nails. So she was painting them this whole time” oh judge, you are my favourite character
Kristoph: WRIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT
Wright: Did anyone summon me?
Apollo:
*"I couldn't think of anything to say.*
*Maybe...because I haven't seen enough.*
*But someday, I'll know what law is.*
*And I'll fight to change it if I have to."*
And then the events of Spirit of Justice happens and he got to stay on that country to change the law there, Dragon must be proud.
11:31 why did he talk like ben shapiro there😭
40:38 Kristoph... It's over. I have the high ground!
some of the most epic lines in the franchise period are in this one case if you ask me
22:30 You've given a penalty that would wipe the entire bar out before
7 years ago...
I totally forgot that Overtaken didn't play once during THE FINAL FUCKING TRIAL OF THE GAME. THE FLYING FUCK.
Seeing coolest attorney of the west lose his sanity was like this was very satisfying , gj Wright you destroyed him.
i love how they break the fourth wall by bringing up the little "health bar" wjen Klavier estimates how vital a motive is
I have been deciding this ever since I saw this game for the first time: Who is worse of a criminal? A mentally insane man named Kristoph Gavin who did all this over losing a card game? Or Dahlia Hawthorne killing everyone for the f*** of it. (2 million dollars, and revenge on Mia...same thing) Why don't you guys tell me? The phantom wasn't apart of this cause he had no past memories, Matt Engarde admitted his guilt after being pretty much announced innocent, and Gant...I didn't want to include because in many ways he was too similar to Gavin. So I just picked who I thought fit more. So demon from hell? Or card game fanatic? Tell me please!
Dahlia didn't kill just for the heck of it, she did so she could silence people from her plans and revenge, at first for his hatred on her dad and in the end on Mia for uncovering all of the truth. As Mia said, all of those murders were goofs of her.
Kristoph is sorta like Von Karma. Is not a matter of losing to a card game (he wasn't even into it) or a penalty in court, it's a matter of "pride". Both built their perfect reputation were based on forgeries so any sort of rejection was inconceivable.
Frankly, I see no difference between the two, because in the end they both committed murder in attempt to erase evidence about their past crimes (the fake kidnapping, the cafeteria poisoning and etc. for Dahlia and the forgery, Shadi Enigmar murder and etc. for Kristoph), they both wanted to keep their innocent facade intact (Dahlia as the "sweet angel" and Kristoph as the "cool, collected and respectable" defense attorney. Am I right or not?
The absolute worst of the bunch in my opinion is Chief Gant. During his case, he was the manipulative bastard the whole time and caused several detectives to lose their jobs, got Edgeworth a massive penalty for unknowingly using forged evidence, and almost got two sisters the guilty verdict. All within the guise of the Chief of police. Let that sink in.
Kaempfdog Gavin betrayed his loved rother denied every fucking story you came up Watched every person manipulated yourself set a bomb that was sealed for 7 years all of this set up cuase he lost one thing but then the manipulaiotn started just so he could be unbelivebly famous
What about gant and Manfred Von karma
No one going to comment on the hate in his eyes when Apollo is perceiving him?
39:22 for some reason, i felt that kristoph perfectly described the "social media justice system" with that one sentence
Now that you point it out, I see where you're coming from too.
41:27 - 41:30
Apparently, He did. He changed the law back in his hometown, the kingdom of K'hurain.
Kristoph laughed so loud his hair turned back to normal
Kristopj is my favorite villain, I though nobody could top Dahlia Hawthorne. But he did, oh he did.
Cry harder, Kristoph! CRY HARDER!
Rin Lockhart Cry until you drown in your own tears!
holy shit i feel this 😂
kinky...
@@mehrlightsunlis4996 if so that is quite some sadism on the commenter's part
Lol, this comment was from 7 years ago.
38:03
The music stopping and his face really sell the tension
Kristoph’s dialogues are one of the best I’ve seen in fiction.
"So she's been painting them all this time"
-judge 20XX
2026
After klavier said it's filled with contradictions and the dramatic theme came I felt like law was the creepiest thing of all 0.0
Apollo decided that getting this dude arrested wasn't enough so he decided to do it again
Kristoph: I am the mastermind behind it all!
Phoenix: Hold my Magatama...
“Owning the same nail polish does not a murderer make”
ok, but what if...
*stamps*
Apollo, Trucy, and Klavier staring at the camera as they said "they're watching by video camera" was lowkey spine chilling.
Edit: AHGDUAGS I JUST NOTICED THIS WAS POSTED 7 YEARS AGO.
40:15. That moment, unbeknownst to anyone but Phoenix, is when the Black PsycheLocks surrounding Kristoph Gavin break.
Did anyone think, that wasn't fair when Kristoph said,"I plead my right to remain silent". He obviously knew the reason why he killed Shadi Smith. He just didn't say it
I think Kristoph actually hasn't realized what his motive was himself. Black psyche-locks appeared when Phoenix asked him his motive, after all. Which is fitting if you think about it, as his motive was his narcissism. Most people aren't aware of the fact that they are ego maniacs, after all.
I played this case again and now I just notice Klavier, Apollo, and Trucy staring at the player/camera at 39:43
Dang! And I thought Dahlia Hawthorne was evil. Kirstoph is as evil as they come.
Ashley Green nope Kristoph was only insane, he didn't have a real motive...
Dahlia instead was pure evil!
You have a point.
He did have a motive... He thought he was the best attorney and his ego compelled him to punish both Phoenix and Zak (Via evidence forging)... Then, after the evidence forging, he became paranoid that someone would find out so he kept tabs on literally everyone and killed shadi smith (Zak Gramarye).
Trey Dawson you know what that makes sense. Thank you for bringing it up. I totally forgot about Zak
Oks but his motive is insane in itself! What average person would forge evidence for a stupid reason like that 😂. He could have been an amazing villain if they developed his character a bit more and enlighted his narcissism and "hate" for common people.
10:07 - it was such a great touch they made you perceive Kristoph so early, his death-stare is so powerfull!
Thank you, Kristoph, I didn't need to sleep anyway...
I wonder...does the judge hold up two pieces of paper holding a health bar and the other one is almost halfway gone?
he just conveniently has that on hand.
+Dr. Bacon to be honest he probably does...
Alright time to erase 60% of Apollo’s bar since he presented irrelevant evidence
I guess it will be on screens or something
I love all the sound effects in this game, but goddamn Apollo’s *GOTCHA!* and then the little twang that happens is so DAMN SATISFYING!
let's take a moment and reflect on the fact that 39:42 is one creepy display.
11:32 benstoph gaviro
38:41 Klavier pulled a JoJo tier asspull and I love it