𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
How they are incredible if they charge more and give lower performance from the base model..? Don't tell me it's the handling because very few people will drive that on a track..
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
I have a ‘17 Base Cayman. I did the quick mod where you slide one of the exhaust sleeves over to make a gap in between the mufflers. Sounds great. I get compliments on it all the time. Such a fun car!
This race just shows how brilliant DCTs are, shifts so quickly, the little 4-pot could hold its own. Plus, the Cayman is no slouch and contrary to popular belief, sounds good as well, when you’re in it and rumbling at low speed.
@@m.b.6744 Check out the 7 clutch transmission in the Königsegg Jesko, Engineering Explained has a great video on it. It's faster and lighter than a PDK
Yes!, But don't forget the GT4RS!! 😯😀🤘 Also I'd rather see them all as manuals rather than silly automatics! - which are boring and take no skill to launch!
Include a manual T in that comparison. I did and decided that $86,700 as my T is optioned (PCCBs, Active Engine Mounts, LSD) saved me at least $25,000 to the S and $35,000 to the GTS and about half the price as a GT4 and this is without dealer markups. For a working class stuff like myself, it’s the T that won my comparison. I saved so much money over the other variants, it left me most happy I could do a mild tune and outperform all but the GT4 on track. Look at the torque to weight ratio of the cars and you will discover what I did. A manual T with PCCBs and manual seats is under 2900 Lbs and with a mild tune and cat-back exhaust get you 350 foot pounds of torque in a car that weight 2870 lbs is all the car you need. Not to mention it’s mid engine on the same tire sizes as a 911. The grip is astonishing! Porsche did us common people a big favor with the T package. Keep your shekels and tune your own 718 Cayman T.
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
@@ComedyPlug2 And all because it “sounds terrible”… 😤😤🙄🙄 Sit in a 718 and the 981 in daily traffic, you’ll be happier in the 718. It doesn’t make as much symphonic noise at the top end, but the 981 might as well be an EV at Low speeds where most owners will find themselves driving the car. It’s only when you rev it out to 7000 plus, it sings away. The 718 still rumbles at a standstill and burbles as it pulls away from the lights.
Turbo charged torque and twin clutch auto are mad improvements in straight line performance. My cayman 987 with 5spd manual was slower in a straight line than mates tweaked golf GTD 7spd dsg!
but he's driving home in a 4 cylinder diesel, you drive home in a glorious flat 6. Also stock for stock, even a healthy 2.7 987 should smoke the GTD any day.
@@weed46 Knowing that you are a Porscha fanboy, of course you are gonna say that. But it's wrong, way cheaper slightly tuned Golf GTD (diesel) *>* Porsche 2.7 987. End of story.
@@RiasGremoryS54 "End of Story"... Hey everybody, the owner of the Truth has spoken lol.... Listen pal... A fiat Uno 1.0 has more pedigree than a Golf diesel.... It's a fucking diesel, what are you on about? It's a DIESEL... got it?
As an owner of a "normal" Cayman PDK all I can say is I'm not surprised. I've owned my car for a lil over 4 years and every day it's a joy to drive and a Super Quick Beast on Socal Freeways. Just flat out Fassst ⚡
@atlantean1209 Gearing is great 1-7. Sport mode adds extra horsepower. I mainly use sport on the highway not regular roads. Handling is great too. No complaints also durability and maintenance has been no problems.
@@zshark365 sport mode does NOT add more horsepower. All it does is amplify throttle response to make it FEEL like it does. And it also produces the burps and farts from the exhaust. But it doesn't add more horsepower.
@@atlantean1209 I feel like there is a “valley of no hp” between 1->2. That bothered me so much that I ended up changing the tune for extra 70hp (which fixed the issue). Other than that, one of the best cars I’ve driven; other than the Emira.
The base cayman is a great deal in terms of driving experience, if there was anything in the market that quick but with 4 usable seats (without breaking the bank) I guess a manual M2 would be closer you can get
I have a manual MINI that was dynoed at 300 bhp. I paid $19,000 and put about $20,000 in mods (full bolt one, tune, suspension, and brakes). I know it’s crazy but it’s still cheaper than the base 718. 0-60 in the high 4 seconds Edit: IDK why you people replying are getting all bent out of shape. I’m just sharing what I did, I’m not saying this is the best option. I didn’t realize I’d offend you clowns with my project car. I can easily make it 400 WHP, yes WHP with an upgraded turbo but I like where it’s at because it’s not the only car I own.
@@bbkangs You think your fucking MINI comes anywhere near the 718 in terms of driving experience? The stock 718 would humiliate it around corners. You could put power down, but end of the day no matter how much money you put into the mini, the chassis will never match the 918
@@bbkangs so you spent $40k+ on a car that does 0-60 in high 4 seconds? Bro....lol....my bone stock B9 S4 does 3.9-4.0 with 0 mods and was about that, if I put a stage 3 tune on it from 034, it will run 2.6-2.9 0-60
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
A truly interesting race this one. I bet that on the road, the base cayman is a better more fun drive than the GT4. As for the mustang, big, fat and heavy...just like me and im not fast either lol
I'd been backwards on forwards on if I should trade me 981 for a GT4 and in the end went for a 718 T, I've not looked back. I adore it on the roads, in the pouring rain on a country road it's so much fun.
@Lee Iacoca yeah it’s not really fair but it’s still lose if the mustang was auto. The sad thing is it’s more expensive and it’s supposed to be a straight line focused car as it weighs 1,800kg so it definitely can’t corner
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
I saw a Cayman GT4 while walking downtown yesterday. A rare warm chinook day for my Canadian self before we return to -20 in a week, and it was just beautiful. Covered in mud and silt, chilling on a street corner next to a convenience store. The owner was a man who looked to be in his late 30's. He strolled out of the store as I was walking up, coffee and box of Pop Tarts in hand. "Morning sir." I said involuntarily with a slight nod. "Mornin' son." and a crowd beating smile. He gave me a nice rev when he pulled out of the intersection.
I’ve driven 1st gen 718 GTS (4 cyl); and I can tell you this car is POWERFUL; it has so much torque at a very low RPM. And once turbo’s are at full boost it just flies
i can confirm . I have a 2020 718T.. All stock... but its daam fast ... wheelspins 1/2 gear... 300hp... however it's going in for a stage1.5 basically :D into 370 hp... let's see what it will be like
I had a manual Mach 1 before I got my Porsche and they really shine in higher rpms and gears. 0-60 or a drag race is very underwhelming when compared to a Camaro or other v8 competitors but on the highway you’d leave them in the dust.
Always said that the 4 cylinder Caymen had all the right ingredients to be a outstanding sports car but all the purists missed 6 cylinders. I wonder what they could do with the 4 cylinder as the base for the motorsport version.
I would really love to see a roll race between the base cayman and an automatic mustang. That 10 speed shifts damn near as fast as a DCT and with how close they were on that last race I’d like to see that again with somewhat level gearboxes.
Pretty good showcasing of the gearing issues modern manual transmission cars are "blessed with" having such long gearing to do better on paper with emissions (noise and CO2). Still the "small" Cayman is doing great. But there is no replacement for displacement in sound and longevity.
I see a lot hate thrown at the mustang and chest pounding over Europe and Porsche lol light, track focused 6 cyl and 4 bangers vs a big burly V8. Strange comparison. Porsche is about refinement, tech and efficiency on road and track. Mustang is about muscle, power and the feeling you get in a car listening to the V8 rumble. C8 corvette costs 58,000 base 90,000ish loaded GT4 used is 90,000ish GTS 86,000 If the comparison is apples to apples cost analysis of two cars that are similar in identity, then the test should have shown two cars designed around efficiency and on track performance. No one would argue about a maclaren or Lamborghini versus a Bentley continental GT in a similar race. That doesn’t mean Bentley won’t sell cars lol two different markets. IMHO
@@hemungiani6058 then by that question the fastest track car should be a hellcat red eye. Power to weight, handling and braking matter a lot more than just power.
@@xIcarus227 They're not trying to paint anything. Do you think the driver was deliberately not using full throttle or something? Or how was he doing this painting? The Mustang was just slow. Here in SA the manual Mustangs also got terrible acceleration times.
@@geraldbuys9853 I'm aware that the manual Mustang isn't that fast, but it can do about a second better on the quarter mile. Driver likely can't shift, and it's not the first time a Mustang loses badly on the channel because of it. Check the Mustang vs LC500 video, same story. Why pick a manual against it in the first place? It's not like auto Mustangs are rare. Carwow always treats non-German brands unfairly, if you watch their reviews you'll understand. It's one of the reasons I don't take anything Mat says seriously.
Matt always tries to be in the winning car so it's rarely a surprise which one wins. Can you redo the test but with all automatic transmissions? It would be interesting to see the difference.
Ironic cause the GT track pack with the auto box is faster than the Mach 1. It was actually a disappointment cause all the sources said it was going to be a 520hp GT350 successor. Would love to actually see a GT350 on carwow that 5.2 flat plane crank V8 is a monster motor
@@mattbowen7978 Why do you casuals often feel the need to spew bs as if they were facts? 🙄🤦 Does it make your mamas proud or something? If you don't know something, either ask or do a research instead of making a statement so matter-of-factly. 🙄
Uhhh yeah they definitely wanted rhe Porsches to look good. Ar the very least the mustang should of been pulling them on the big end. Not a very legit demonstration
I put my money in a 2021 Cayman T manual. The T package is a fantastic bargain. For $68,300 base price you get PASM that’s lowered 20mm, Sports Steering Plus, 911 S lightweight wheels, manual seats, sports exhaust and other lightweight options. I went for the following options; LSD, active motor mounts, light weight glass from GT4 and PCCBs, GT Silver metallic paint, active lighting that follows the steering wheel, Bose system and dual climate control, premium interior package with yellow contrast stitching, seats in SportsTex with yellow stitching brought the MSRP to $86,700, for which I paid. Does the T stand for Track, Turbo or Touring? I contend, my Cayman as optioned is all three. After installing a Cat-back exhaust and adding VP Racing octane booster (in California we only have 91) to run 95 octane in my tank at all times, the cars I can pull away from on street and track (especially when under way) is quite surprising. On a back road or hill climb, few cars can hang, and when they can, it’s only when there is an experienced driver behind the wheel. Best value for money if you want a proper light weight, mid-engine sports car, that you can daily or track or take on a road trip.
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
Those cars on the "dragy" leaderboards usually have different tires than street ones, and the fuel might be different. Also the automatic should shave some time off..
@@janezpungartnik3149 naaah the ones I've looked at on dragy are stock, no point comparing the modded ones, as you say even tyres make a difference... And yeah, I'd also have thought an auto would shave time off rather than add time on
BIG BIG smile on my face! Always said that the stock boxster (which I have) is a real ‘bargain’ given its performance - £30k saved and having just as much fun as the big fella!😎😎
had a 718 base and added tuner and it was a monster, just a lovely engine.12.1 quarter mile without sports chrono. So fast and you can get over 30 miles to the gallon. Porsche base cars are not like other manufacturers base cars, you get serious performance..
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
4 Zyl totally underrated due to a lot of stupid mainstream opinions! 2.5 with 400hp mid engine …. 4zyl has a huge Porsche history Who’s talking bad about has never driven one
I will one up with the Spyder!!!!.....IMO....but the GT4 is definitely a looker for sure. I think the GT4 looks great because it looks mean. I think the Spyder is just drop dead gorgeous! Prettiest car on the road IMO. The second prettiest(arguably the first) is the AMG GT!!!
There is a weird situation in the world. Porsches are just so much better than anything else that it really does not make for interesting comparisons. When you add the fact they are also more reliable than anything else, it’s always a blowout. The Porsches could do a track day every weekend, and still get you to work reliably.
Do the Euro versions of the Mustangs come with less HP? Could’ve sworn the Mach 1’s have 480HP. But still, that has to be the slowest Mach 1 I’ve ever seen. In stock form with a 10 speed they run 11.8’s and the GT’s will hit 12 flats to 11.9’s. Now this car was a manual, but Mid-low 12’s shouldn’t be out of the question. 13.7 is just terrible. And don’t get started with the roll racing, the stang should’ve walked both cars.
No "just about" about it. The 718 Cayman beat the GT4. What is it with the English and what seems to be the relatively recent trend of saying "just about" having done something when quite clearly that thing happened. If you just about score a goal, you didn't score. If you just about cleared the ball off the line, you didn't actually clear the ball of the line and the other team scored. If your mom tells you that she has just about had enough of you and your siblings' misbehaviour, are you getting punished or are you getting a final warning? It's as bad as the saying "upcoming" when "coming" is sufficient. That is my rant for the day.
I believe the Mach 1 is 480 hp. The base GT is 460 hp. The Mach 1 features the gt350 intake (which you can see in the video) that gives it the extra 20 ponies.
@@mitchellsteindler interesting! It used to be the US that got shafted on power numbers due to emissions. I recall europe getting more hp in the e46 m3.
In a real race done by a normal driver the mustang is faster in a straight line and on a road course . Look up car and driver's lightning lap . It even posted a better time than an M5. 13.7 ? You really believe that as true even though not a single test on a gt since 2011 was slower than 12.9 ?
I'm not even sure how it's possible to run a 13.7 in a GT. I ran that at 105mph in my V6 mustang 10 years ago with just a tune, with some more mods I was running 12.5 at 115mph. And the fact that the 718 was keeping up with the GT4 also strange... the GT4 looks sick as fuck so it wins on that anyways.
Manual GT, simply really. It isn't a prepped drag strip. 12.5 at 115mph out of a V6 Mustang is horseshit. Tune only V6's also don't trap 105mph. It isn't strange at all, PDK vs a car that barely gets out of 3rd over the quarter...
@@Youcallthesebagels_ lol no. A PDK Cayman traps 113mph and a manual Mustang GT does 115mph. 2mph difference. Which is nothing. What is clear is that the PDK launches more consistently and the Mustang GT is very sensitive to launch surface and temps. Clearly you don't actually understand what you are talking about.
Have both a porsche and mustang. Sometimes not right with that mustang. It's running a full second slower than it should be. Hell it's running v6 mustang times. Very strong performance from that base 2.0 cayman.
Matt I'm a big fan of the vids and I appreciate all the hard work that it takes to put these together for everyone, but there's something wrong with that mustang or it's driver!
@@phohai6075 bro it’s a Porsche with a PDK, and a fucking track built weapon, versus a car that you can fit the kids in, has a massive V8, and you actually have good visibility out of. The problem with this video is comparing cars with no where equal value or engineering standards. If you can’t understand how a 70k and 100k usd Porsche beat a by the way base Mach 1 without the handling pack and better tires idk what to tell ya.
@@everydaymaverick2166 Exactly. For comparable price, put the C8 Corvette in there. That Mustang has the same engine as a $35k Mustang GT. But it wouldn't be carwow if it didn't have biased comparisons. Jeremy Clarkson 2.0
@@phohai6075 Nah. Americans just don’t understand power to weight ratios. That’s all. I’ve seen this outcome from a mile away. Porsche tends to be king in the 300 - 400 HP club.
Very interesting. From this test it seems the normal Cayman is a much better deal than the GT4. The performance difference is negligible, while it's significantly cheaper.
Thats for a manual GT4 though. The gearing on that car is horrible for street use. You would get the PDK in the GT4 and utterly destroy the base Cayman.
@@MacXpert74 The PDK is an option anyway? Some buyers are simply manual only, so they want it. The problem is it is a carry over gearbox from Audi that they modified slightly. Couple the carry over ratios designed to suit a 25inch tire and a 6500rpm peak to a 27 inch tire and 8000rpm peak...
Yeah like, it's in a completely different class and has a completely different purpose: giving you good fun and decent practicality for as little money as possible.
@@angelgjr1999 13.7 is about right, 10-speed mustangs are just ridiculously quick. but you cant compare a muscle car like a mach 1 to one of the best sports cars money can buy. maybe a 10-speed or a base gt350 for this race.
@@510cj8 13.7 is not about right ... Where do you get your info ? 2011-2022 gt are all under 12 seconds in every test ive ever seen . Unless its throttle house....smh
Y'all need to get someone who knows how to drive in that Mustang. Mustang GTs from 2002 with 285 hp could do a 13.7 qt/mi! That Mach 1 should be perfectly capable of doing a mid 12 no problem, but it takes skill to know how to launch and shift in those manual pony cars. 0/10 for that driver! 👎🏼🤨
I laughed so hard. I do 13.4 seconds in my 2003 Mustang GT. Yet mine has like 160 less hp. The British always mess up Mustang drag times. It’s like all they can handle is automatic mid engine cars!
Its done on purpose. The 718s and m5 lost to a mustang gt at mazda speed way during car and driver's lightning lap. So the mustangs can handle as well . Why do you think they never compared an m4 6speed to a gt350?
An 02 Mustang isn’t worth a shit in this race. It doesn’t help that the Mustang is a god damn land yacht (@ +3,800 ibs) as well. HP isn’t shit when your car weighs as much as the Titanic.
@@Iridiumcosmos this mustang just beat out a $110k BMW M4 on car and drivers lightning lap even though the mach 1 has slower straight line acceleration . It also posted a faster time than a cayman S and BMW M5. You might want to look at more than one review on a car.
@@Spiritcr1jsher Okay but how does it compare to the new flagship that’s in this very video (718 GT4)? Price is a misnomer when it comes to performance. Look at the raw data between both cars and judge from there. The 718 GT4 is supposed to rival things like the C8 which it also beat by damn near 20 seconds on the Ring. So what’s the next excuse?
I have my doubts on that entry level Cayman. Starting with the fact that it does not have a soft limiter, leads me to think that our guy did some tuning to the ECU....
I believe when porsche gives its horsepower numbers, it's based off the power it makes to the wheels. Unlike most cars out there which they base their ratings by crank horsepower which looses almost 20% to the wheels. This mustang is making about 390 to 400 hp to the wheels. If a porsche 911 turbo s makes 650 to the wheels then that would translate to about 770 crank horsepower.
Motorweek could do 12.4 second 1/4 mile with the regular mustang GT btw. Just a bad driver here. Even in a previous carwow race against the LC500, the GT did 12.6 seconds 1/4 mile.
That Mach 1 is a 12.6 all day when Motor Trend or another publication drives it and a 12.0 with the 10 speed auto. This channel always uses the worst drivers in the Mustangs they test.
Great race...but.. need a do over for the Mach 1. New driver. One year ago carwow raced the manual transmission Bullit against the Lexus and did 12.6 secs.. This Mach1 did 13.7 secs. Talking about needlessly throwing the race. Carwow should compare similar cars from previous races before releasing the video. Compare apples to apples.. manual mustang to manual mustang from previous races. Yes . Manuals are slower. But no way the Mach 1 does 13.7 1/4 mile.
Something was definitely off here. Even the 2005 to 2010 4.6 GT with only 300 horsepower was mid-13s in the quarter with the manual unless you completely blew the launch. ANY new V8 Mustang is a 12 second car, manual or otherwise.... unless you have absolutely no driving skill.
@@FEGTTTSDH what ?! Lol bro check the same channel you will see a Porsche V6 destroys mustang V8 5.0 with a super charge 700 hp! I’ve seen Porsche with a V 6 stock engine smokes Ferrari and lambo with a V 12 😬🤭. German engineering is something else !
The normal Cayman surprised me. It's really decent, the normal Cayman that is. Especially for braking, the normal Cayman really impressed me. Factoring in price, that normal Cayman is a great buy considering! Normal Cayman.
Yeah, as a Mustang GT owner and enthusiast this really doesn't surprise me: The manuals in the mustangs aren't anywhere near as good as the autos, tthey need to be launched WAY harder [4k+ RPM] and they're definitely heavier. The entire platform is a good BASE, but they take some additional work to really make the 5.0 scream..... a few bolt ons, a set of coilovers..... maybe a supercharger kit ; ) And of course the big draw is the reliability compared to most Porsche vehicles [I'm in The States, and for whatever reason they just degrade fast] And I'm sorry, but that V8 growl just KILLS those little engines.....
So....from other videos I saw the auto Mach 1 gets around 12 seconds on the quarter mile. Ok, it's the US version with 480HP. But does 20HP difference and a manual really mean 1.7 seconds on the quarter mile? Or is the UK version broke?
@@sa1837 a good muscle car is still only meant for fun so it makes sense why it's a manual and can't really expect a human to get better starts than auto launch
@@Rick2010100 mustang is not a race car especially that March 1 and gt it does exactly what u say about it burn rubber and sound awesome that's the whole point of the car
Mach1 30% heavier and manual (although a beautiful drivers gear box). Grabber Yellow. Beautiful. Mach1 sounds different class. Plus do some small mods and your away!!
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝 *NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE* tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
Next time Matt should drive the Mach 1. That way we know it's being driven by someone who knows how to drive a manual. 1sec difference between the Automatic V8 5L seems to big of a gap.
My 1985 mustang gt , stock 210hp around 3000lbs. WIth 3:73 gears, underdrive crank pulley and flowmaster mufflers i ran a 13.8 . How is 460hp in a current stang running only 13.7? Lets say better launch maybe a mid to low 13 seconds? smfh
It would have been closer if the Ford were equipped with the 10 speed auto, which is significantly quicker than the manual (even if the latter is more enjoyable to drive).
That pdk makes all the difference. That mustang is a second off what manual mustangs are doing at the track near me. So I would say it needs a driver mod. Plus the 10 speed mustang is much quicker then the manual.
That might change the outcome for the drag race from a launch, but it still performed terribly in the roll races, which don’t require any driver skill.
@@joachimsandgaard Alternatively you can easily see in a run where you start at 0km/h or starting at 4-6km/h. Obviously one is going to cover 402m quicker.
It needs the A10, I managed a 12.2@190km/h on the street with my A10 GT EU spec. Did have wider PS4S tires though The gearing on the manual EU mustangs are shit. Also should use the flat shifting in the manual, no need to lift the throttle during the gear changes when you are on WOT Thanks for the video anyway, I’ll take the GT4 :)
I'm feeling bad for the the mustang fan boys. That driver was literally a full second slower in the 1/4 vs last time they tested it lmao. Did u catch how slow he was shifting gears? 0% effort to win, it's like he didn't want it to do well.. This Should have been a more enjoyable race if there was a driver mod. Unfortunately.
Sure the Porsches are faster than the Mustang (I love all of them), but I would go for a old school NA V8 Mustang 😃👍. Also, can we have a compilation of Mat going crazy? xD🤪
02:13 Which sounds best? VOTE BELOW
VOTE: Porsche Cayman GT4
VOTE: Porsche Cayman 718
VOTE: Mustang Mach 1
GT4 in my opinion, despite the soundcheck at the start
Mach 1. Sounds fab.
We do realize that yellow Cayman is a base model, but that performance doesn't show "base" at all. Porsches are incredible
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
@@broaction5343 ugly ???? Wtf
the price doesnt show "base" at all
How they are incredible if they charge more and give lower performance from the base model..?
Don't tell me it's the handling because very few people will drive that on a track..
@@joaoruxa It’s definitely ugly, compared to other supercars. Look at its face bro.
Completely taken aback by the performance of the base 4 cylinder Cayman! Wow- just wow
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
Good job as always.
It's a normal cayman
Yeah pdk....😉
Thats why its called car WOW 😲
I have a ‘17 Base Cayman. I did the quick mod where you slide one of the exhaust sleeves over to make a gap in between the mufflers. Sounds great. I get compliments on it all the time. Such a fun car!
Can you provide some instruction to this please? Thanks
@@laszloczipauer4082 Google is your friend I believe
This race just shows how brilliant DCTs are, shifts so quickly, the little 4-pot could hold its own. Plus, the Cayman is no slouch and contrary to popular belief, sounds good as well, when you’re in it and rumbling at low speed.
ruclips.net/video/DhJjeIdqcx0/видео.html
This is not just any DCT - this is the PDK, which is the best dual clutch/automatic transmission ever made.
@@m.b.6744 Check out the 7 clutch transmission in the Königsegg Jesko, Engineering Explained has a great video on it. It's faster and lighter than a PDK
@@m.b.6744 best transmission is a bit optimistic, but its definitely amazing
Handy for drag racing but I prefer manual for normal driving
Would be interested to see the difference between the Cayman, S, GTS and GT4 models.
Agree, been asking for that video for ages
As long as they all have the PDK.....otherwise it would not mean much since the driver is the X factor.
Yes!, But don't forget the GT4RS!! 😯😀🤘
Also I'd rather see them all as manuals rather than silly automatics! - which are boring and take no skill to launch!
There is a video out by a Korean channel search
Include a manual T in that comparison. I did and decided that $86,700 as my T is optioned (PCCBs, Active Engine Mounts, LSD) saved me at least $25,000 to the S and $35,000 to the GTS and about half the price as a GT4 and this is without dealer markups. For a working class stuff like myself, it’s the T that won my comparison. I saved so much money over the other variants, it left me most happy I could do a mild tune and outperform all but the GT4 on track. Look at the torque to weight ratio of the cars and you will discover what I did. A manual T with PCCBs and manual seats is under 2900 Lbs and with a mild tune and cat-back exhaust get you 350 foot pounds of torque in a car that weight 2870 lbs is all the car you need. Not to mention it’s mid engine on the same tire sizes as a 911. The grip is astonishing! Porsche did us common people a big favor with the T package. Keep your shekels and tune your own 718 Cayman T.
This just shows how amazing the flat 4 cayman is, had it been the 2.5 S or GTS model I think it would have destroyed the GT4
ruclips.net/video/DhJjeIdqcx0/видео.html
The 2.5 is soo massively underrated
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
it's about the driver
@@ComedyPlug2 And all because it “sounds terrible”… 😤😤🙄🙄 Sit in a 718 and the 981 in daily traffic, you’ll be happier in the 718. It doesn’t make as much symphonic noise at the top end, but the 981 might as well be an EV at Low speeds where most owners will find themselves driving the car. It’s only when you rev it out to 7000 plus, it sings away. The 718 still rumbles at a standstill and burbles as it pulls away from the lights.
Turbo charged torque and twin clutch auto are mad improvements in straight line performance. My cayman 987 with 5spd manual was slower in a straight line than mates tweaked golf GTD 7spd dsg!
but he's driving home in a 4 cylinder diesel, you drive home in a glorious flat 6. Also stock for stock, even a healthy 2.7 987 should smoke the GTD any day.
Why is ur name Matt Jones gt3
@@weed46 Knowing that you are a Porscha fanboy, of course you are gonna say that. But it's wrong, way cheaper slightly tuned Golf GTD (diesel) *>* Porsche 2.7 987. End of story.
@@RiasGremoryS54 "End of Story"... Hey everybody, the owner of the Truth has spoken lol....
Listen pal... A fiat Uno 1.0 has more pedigree than a Golf diesel.... It's a fucking diesel, what are you on about? It's a DIESEL... got it?
@@RiasGremoryS54 hi Rias Gremory chan. ❤️🙏
As an owner of a "normal" Cayman PDK all I can say is I'm not surprised. I've owned my car for a lil over 4 years and every day it's a joy to drive and a Super Quick Beast on Socal Freeways. Just flat out Fassst ⚡
how's the gearing? do you stay in 1 and 2 mostly? i'm in socal too.
@atlantean1209 Gearing is great 1-7. Sport mode adds extra horsepower. I mainly use sport on the highway not regular roads. Handling is great too. No complaints also durability and maintenance has been no problems.
❤ that PorscheLife !!
@@zshark365 sport mode does NOT add more horsepower. All it does is amplify throttle response to make it FEEL like it does. And it also produces the burps and farts from the exhaust. But it doesn't add more horsepower.
@@atlantean1209 I feel like there is a “valley of no hp” between 1->2.
That bothered me so much that I ended up changing the tune for extra 70hp (which fixed the issue).
Other than that, one of the best cars I’ve driven; other than the Emira.
The base cayman is a great deal in terms of driving experience, if there was anything in the market that quick but with 4 usable seats (without breaking the bank) I guess a manual M2 would be closer you can get
I have a manual MINI that was dynoed at 300 bhp. I paid $19,000 and put about $20,000 in mods (full bolt one, tune, suspension, and brakes). I know it’s crazy but it’s still cheaper than the base 718. 0-60 in the high 4 seconds
Edit: IDK why you people replying are getting all bent out of shape. I’m just sharing what I did, I’m not saying this is the best option. I didn’t realize I’d offend you clowns with my project car. I can easily make it 400 WHP, yes WHP with an upgraded turbo but I like where it’s at because it’s not the only car I own.
@@bbkangs ...and has all the reliability issues of a modified BMW.
@@bbkangs You think your fucking MINI comes anywhere near the 718 in terms of driving experience? The stock 718 would humiliate it around corners.
You could put power down, but end of the day no matter how much money you put into the mini, the chassis will never match the 918
@@bbkangs So you could have got a used Porsche Cayman for the same price you paid for a 300hp mini...
@@bbkangs so you spent $40k+ on a car that does 0-60 in high 4 seconds? Bro....lol....my bone stock B9 S4 does 3.9-4.0 with 0 mods and was about that, if I put a stage 3 tune on it from 034, it will run 2.6-2.9 0-60
When the pdk is better than having 2 more cylinders 😂
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
PDK plus a turbo.
And 2 more litres of displacement
Faster, not better
It’s not the PDK that’s killing the GT4, it’s thr crazy long gearing they put in it.
Cheers Wanted to see how the base 2.0 performed against 4.0 for ages, pretty respectable I would say. GT4 looks awesome.
Muscle cars never fail to dissapoint, good job murica
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
What will happen when you compare a sports car with a muscle car huh???
If you expect a Mustang to out-launch the Porsches, I think it's more so a matter of expectations lmfao.
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
Of course a Mustang isn’t going to outrun two Porsches. Gotta put down all of America for that? The C8 Corvette would’ve been a better comparison
So what have I learnt today...
1)Order basic 718
B) get stage 2 remap.
3) go halfords for a ricer rear wing.
4) hit Southend with Tracey !!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Or the 718 S with the 2.5l
This sounds like a winning plan here!
2.5 stage 2
Brilliant but Tracy was unavailable. Took Monique instead lol
A truly interesting race this one. I bet that on the road, the base cayman is a better more fun drive than the GT4. As for the mustang, big, fat and heavy...just like me and im not fast either lol
I'd been backwards on forwards on if I should trade me 981 for a GT4 and in the end went for a 718 T, I've not looked back. I adore it on the roads, in the pouring rain on a country road it's so much fun.
I wonder how that Ford feels losing to a 4 cylinder 🤣🤣🤣
Oof size: L A R G E
Probably like any other car that has lost to a smaller engine lol.
@@justinl2009 Yeah, definitely not the first time lol
@Lee Iacoca So is the GT4. And that beat the Base Cayman in the first race.
@Lee Iacoca yeah it’s not really fair but it’s still lose if the mustang was auto. The sad thing is it’s more expensive and it’s supposed to be a straight line focused car as it weighs 1,800kg so it definitely can’t corner
cayman is just a beautiful looking car, especially the gt4 💪🏻
I've driven a 18 plate 300 hp 718 and I can tell you they sound sick which is weird and they move! definitely worth the money 💰
Race starts at 3:39
Helps skip the Mat Watson crap.
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
@@fresky5370 I always do. Skip to about 3 min into every video
@Justice II VBlog you're*
@@CarsandChris hi bro. I am so confused that sexy bots are everywhere since last 5 months.
Love watching these vids. Always click on them as soon as they come up
Ur so cool
@@milanghedia5989 no need to kill the vibe bro. Not cool
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
a bot copied your comment lmao
@@p4x.frontier yeah wtf
I saw a Cayman GT4 while walking downtown yesterday. A rare warm chinook day for my Canadian self before we return to -20 in a week, and it was just beautiful. Covered in mud and silt, chilling on a street corner next to a convenience store. The owner was a man who looked to be in his late 30's. He strolled out of the store as I was walking up, coffee and box of Pop Tarts in hand. "Morning sir." I said involuntarily with a slight nod. "Mornin' son." and a crowd beating smile.
He gave me a nice rev when he pulled out of the intersection.
Holy shit that 4 pot is really underrated! Porsche doing it’s things 🤯
I'm pretty sure they have the best LC system in the business
@@Thomas-iz4tj They do, but just to be clear, the base 718 in the video doesn't have the Sports Chrono so no Sports + mode, so no LC.
I’ve driven 1st gen 718 GTS (4 cyl); and I can tell you this car is POWERFUL; it has so much torque at a very low RPM. And once turbo’s are at full boost it just flies
i can confirm . I have a 2020 718T.. All stock... but its daam fast ... wheelspins 1/2 gear... 300hp... however it's going in for a stage1.5 basically :D into 370 hp... let's see what it will be like
I'm convinced Matt just can't launch or shift a manual that Mach 1 is a low 12s car 😂 auto's are in the 11s.
They spiked the fuel lmao
I had a manual Mach 1 before I got my Porsche and they really shine in higher rpms and gears. 0-60 or a drag race is very underwhelming when compared to a Camaro or other v8 competitors but on the highway you’d leave them in the dust.
Always said that the 4 cylinder Caymen had all the right ingredients to be a outstanding sports car but all the purists missed 6 cylinders. I wonder what they could do with the 4 cylinder as the base for the motorsport version.
@qopoy dnon I’m a 992tbs and a 718 owner, I can tell u that the base model 718 does not have a soft limiter
@qopoy dnon I have a 718 T (so base engine), it just flies, I'm not shocked by the video.
I would really love to see a roll race between the base cayman and an automatic mustang. That 10 speed shifts damn near as fast as a DCT and with how close they were on that last race I’d like to see that again with somewhat level gearboxes.
I have a base Cayman (granted it's a manual) and I can confirm that a 10 speed Mustang would annihilate it in a straight line
@@EvanK2EJT oh really? Even from a dig?
@@Vincetagram Yeah. For sure. A PDK car with launch control might get out on the Mustang a bit, but that wouldn't last long.
Average 1/4 mile test times for Mach 1 auto are 12.2 seconds with many 11.8’s on video on the web
Pretty good showcasing of the gearing issues modern manual transmission cars are "blessed with" having such long gearing to do better on paper with emissions (noise and CO2).
Still the "small" Cayman is doing great. But there is no replacement for displacement in sound and longevity.
that GT4 is SO BEAUTIFUL
I see a lot hate thrown at the mustang and chest pounding over Europe and Porsche lol light, track focused 6 cyl and 4 bangers vs a big burly V8. Strange comparison. Porsche is about refinement, tech and efficiency on road and track. Mustang is about muscle, power and the feeling you get in a car listening to the V8 rumble.
C8 corvette costs 58,000 base 90,000ish loaded
GT4 used is 90,000ish
GTS 86,000
If the comparison is apples to apples cost analysis of two cars that are similar in identity, then the test should have shown two cars designed around efficiency and on track performance. No one would argue about a maclaren or Lamborghini versus a Bentley continental GT in a similar race. That doesn’t mean Bentley won’t sell cars lol two different markets. IMHO
"Mustang is about muscle, power..." I wonder where power is more useful, in a drag race or on a track..
@@hemungiani6058 then by that question the fastest track car should be a hellcat red eye.
Power to weight, handling and braking matter a lot more than just power.
“Mustang is about muscle”
So they should be good at drag racing then…
@@darkchild130 that’s a fair point
As an American I’ll admit we don’t know what power to weight ratio is lol.
That GT4 looks absolutely amazing
I’d like to see the mustang in an auto, the 10 speed auto cars run some really impressive 1/4 mile times, at least in prepped strips.
ruclips.net/video/GDUMfGMdJes/видео.html
Might be problematic to find one in a rainy Britain.
Yeah the 10 Speed Auto GT can run low 12's stock something was wrong with that mustang in the vid it shouldn't be running 13.7
@@fart69x69 nothing wrong with the car, unprepped cold track and cold tyres
@@howmuchforthebabys yeah true but the driver was pretty bad too..
Bloody hell. Imagine shelling out three kidneys and a liver for a GT4 and having your arse handed to you by it's rep-mobile base model
Why even allow a manual mustang to race a Porsche tho 🤣
Wouldn't be the first time carwow tries to paint non-German cars in a bad light.
@@xIcarus227 They're not trying to paint anything. Do you think the driver was deliberately not using full throttle or something? Or how was he doing this painting? The Mustang was just slow. Here in SA the manual Mustangs also got terrible acceleration times.
@@geraldbuys9853 I'm aware that the manual Mustang isn't that fast, but it can do about a second better on the quarter mile. Driver likely can't shift, and it's not the first time a Mustang loses badly on the channel because of it. Check the Mustang vs LC500 video, same story. Why pick a manual against it in the first place? It's not like auto Mustangs are rare.
Carwow always treats non-German brands unfairly, if you watch their reviews you'll understand. It's one of the reasons I don't take anything Mat says seriously.
@@geraldbuys9853 sure they are , a 2010 mustang gt did 13.5 with 315 hp a 4.6l and a 5speed on skinny tires.
Matt always tries to be in the winning car so it's rarely a surprise which one wins.
Can you redo the test but with all automatic transmissions? It would be interesting to see the difference.
Mach 1 doesn't come in auto
Ironic cause the GT track pack with the auto box is faster than the Mach 1. It was actually a disappointment cause all the sources said it was going to be a 520hp GT350 successor. Would love to actually see a GT350 on carwow that 5.2 flat plane crank V8 is a monster motor
@@mattbowen7978 it does, we have a 10 speed automatic Mach 1 on the drive
@@Ryosaurus26 new info to me good to know
@@mattbowen7978 Why do you casuals often feel the need to spew bs as if they were facts? 🙄🤦 Does it make your mamas proud or something? If you don't know something, either ask or do a research instead of making a statement so matter-of-factly. 🙄
That’s cool and all but what we really want is a race between 2 of the fastest tanks! 💥
There's plenty of videos on RUclips of 5.0's/Mach 1's performing way better than what was shown here
They sandbagged it, or the Mach 1 shown here is a special euro spec with early 2000s level performance.
@@jacobvanausdeln1696 all American cars are pre 2000. Hasn’t anybody told ya, there bordering dinosaur times 🤣
Uhhh yeah they definitely wanted rhe Porsches to look good. Ar the very least the mustang should of been pulling them on the big end. Not a very legit demonstration
The GT4 looks amazing!!
I put my money in a 2021 Cayman T manual. The T package is a fantastic bargain. For $68,300 base price you get PASM that’s lowered 20mm, Sports Steering Plus, 911 S lightweight wheels, manual seats, sports exhaust and other lightweight options. I went for the following options; LSD, active motor mounts, light weight glass from GT4 and PCCBs, GT Silver metallic paint, active lighting that follows the steering wheel, Bose system and dual climate control, premium interior package with yellow contrast stitching, seats in SportsTex with yellow stitching brought the MSRP to $86,700, for which I paid. Does the T stand for Track, Turbo or Touring? I contend, my Cayman as optioned is all three. After installing a Cat-back exhaust and adding VP Racing octane booster (in California we only have 91) to run 95 octane in my tank at all times, the cars I can pull away from on street and track (especially when under way) is quite surprising. On a back road or hill climb, few cars can hang, and when they can, it’s only when there is an experienced driver behind the wheel. Best value for money if you want a proper light weight, mid-engine sports car, that you can daily or track or take on a road trip.
I want to see some JDM races like a Celica GT4 vs an Integra Type R or something like that. Would be sick.
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
Definitely!
However, I suspect it’s hard to find owners with those type of vehicles that are NOT modified and who are willing to lend them out.
No ome wants to watch those old cards
@@bulletsRflying Some of us would actually enjoy it.. Just cause you won't enjoy it doesn't mean other people won't enjoy it
@@fart69x69 The needs of the many far outweighs the wants of the few girlfriend.
Please start TopGear!!!
they need you pal 🤞🏼
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
"Soft limiter at 7000 rpm" 🤣
Seriously though the Mach1 should have been the Auto!
Love ur work Matt ❤
I'm not a fan of muscle cars... But I think that mustang had some problems. I've seen em do low 12 1/4's on the dragy leaderboards
Auto vs manual
yeah I also think that, it's rly slow, he should of smoked both of them
Those cars on the "dragy" leaderboards usually have different tires than street ones, and the fuel might be different. Also the automatic should shave some time off..
@@janezpungartnik3149 naaah the ones I've looked at on dragy are stock, no point comparing the modded ones, as you say even tyres make a difference... And yeah, I'd also have thought an auto would shave time off rather than add time on
They intentionally sandbagged.
BIG BIG smile on my face! Always said that the stock boxster (which I have) is a real ‘bargain’ given its performance - £30k saved and having just as much fun as the big fella!😎😎
a simple ecu mod will give it 350hp
Still too much for a 4 banger... Rather get a cheaper Z4 m40i which has a better performance than the base boxster and is also cheaper
@@nik7bkh965 Nah - no contest
had a 718 base and added tuner and it was a monster, just a lovely engine.12.1 quarter mile without sports chrono. So fast and you can get over 30 miles to the gallon. Porsche base cars are not like other manufacturers base cars, you get serious performance..
Got a 718 S without the particular filter, I think it's the sweetspot
Do the S's have an OPF??? I thought that was only the 4.0 cars???
Keep up the work carwow🔥🔥🔥🔥
𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 ❶❽ 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐥𝐝
*NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE*
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
4 Zyl totally underrated due to a lot of stupid mainstream opinions!
2.5 with 400hp mid engine ….
4zyl has a huge Porsche history
Who’s talking bad about has never driven one
Porche's out there kicking ass...and I'm loving it.
Cayman GT4 has to be one of the best looking sports cars ever made what a beauty
I will one up with the Spyder!!!!.....IMO....but the GT4 is definitely a looker for sure. I think the GT4 looks great because it looks mean. I think the Spyder is just drop dead gorgeous! Prettiest car on the road IMO. The second prettiest(arguably the first) is the AMG GT!!!
Never expected Porsche to meme the Cayman GT4
1420 kg
420 PS
420 Nm
I love it🌱
Я зритель из России, спасибо Мэту за то что он делает. Мэтт мы тебя любим!!!
Always good to see at least one car with a manual transmission in a carwow video.Save the manuals!
There is a weird situation in the world. Porsches are just so much better than anything else that it really does not make for interesting comparisons. When you add the fact they are also more reliable than anything else, it’s always a blowout. The Porsches could do a track day every weekend, and still get you to work reliably.
Do the Euro versions of the Mustangs come with less HP? Could’ve sworn the Mach 1’s have 480HP.
But still, that has to be the slowest Mach 1 I’ve ever seen. In stock form with a 10 speed they run 11.8’s and the GT’s will hit 12 flats to 11.9’s. Now this car was a manual, but Mid-low 12’s shouldn’t be out of the question. 13.7 is just terrible. And don’t get started with the roll racing, the stang should’ve walked both cars.
Drag races don't really tell the picture, two of these cars can do corners excellently as well 😎
No "just about" about it. The 718 Cayman beat the GT4.
What is it with the English and what seems to be the relatively recent trend of saying "just about" having done something when quite clearly that thing happened.
If you just about score a goal, you didn't score. If you just about cleared the ball off the line, you didn't actually clear the ball of the line and the other team scored.
If your mom tells you that she has just about had enough of you and your siblings' misbehaviour, are you getting punished or are you getting a final warning?
It's as bad as the saying "upcoming" when "coming" is sufficient.
That is my rant for the day.
I believe the Mach 1 is 480 hp. The base GT is 460 hp. The Mach 1 features the gt350 intake (which you can see in the video) that gives it the extra 20 ponies.
I think it depends on what year it was made. Ford had to reduce the hp of the v8 due to emissions requirements.
Only in the US your stats are correct. In the EU, the Base Model is 450 hp and the Bullitt and Mach 1 are 460 hp
@@mitchellsteindler interesting! It used to be the US that got shafted on power numbers due to emissions. I recall europe getting more hp in the e46 m3.
@@Introgamer14 thanks for the info. Too bad but honestly 10-20 hp is almost unnoticed in a 400+ hp car
lighter, cheaper, handles better, brakes better, straight line performance was on par, give me a reason to buy a mustang.
one reason. 5.0 v8 with crazy sound👍🏼 porsches are great but just driving at low speeds not pushing the car the mustang will be so much more fun
The look and the long life V8 is aaalways a far better option than a high stress small engine with GDI and a inmense complexity.
In a real race done by a normal driver the mustang is faster in a straight line and on a road course . Look up car and driver's lightning lap . It even posted a better time than an M5. 13.7 ? You really believe that as true even though not a single test on a gt since 2011 was slower than 12.9 ?
That Cayman is a beauty ! A simple straight four doing that to the big guys is awesome!
I'm not even sure how it's possible to run a 13.7 in a GT. I ran that at 105mph in my V6 mustang 10 years ago with just a tune, with some more mods I was running 12.5 at 115mph. And the fact that the 718 was keeping up with the GT4 also strange... the GT4 looks sick as fuck so it wins on that anyways.
Manual GT, simply really. It isn't a prepped drag strip.
12.5 at 115mph out of a V6 Mustang is horseshit. Tune only V6's also don't trap 105mph.
It isn't strange at all, PDK vs a car that barely gets out of 3rd over the quarter...
That's cuz there is some forgery here lol. And a 3.7 v6 absolutely can trap 105.
@@matthewruggiero5464 Absolutely they can, just not with a factory car with a tune only...
@@Jaredscott89 either way stock GT’s trap 117 which is 8 mph faster than the base cayman. This mustang was clearly detuned to meet uk laws.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ lol no. A PDK Cayman traps 113mph and a manual Mustang GT does 115mph.
2mph difference. Which is nothing.
What is clear is that the PDK launches more consistently and the Mustang GT is very sensitive to launch surface and temps.
Clearly you don't actually understand what you are talking about.
Have both a porsche and mustang. Sometimes not right with that mustang. It's running a full second slower than it should be. Hell it's running v6 mustang times.
Very strong performance from that base 2.0 cayman.
the "base" 718 with a PDK is capibale of beating the GT4 with a manual porsche is incredible
Matt I'm a big fan of the vids and I appreciate all the hard work that it takes to put these together for everyone, but there's something wrong with that mustang or it's driver!
No it's just American muscle crap. You can't beat German engineering.
@@phohai6075 bro it’s a Porsche with a PDK, and a fucking track built weapon, versus a car that you can fit the kids in, has a massive V8, and you actually have good visibility out of. The problem with this video is comparing cars with no where equal value or engineering standards. If you can’t understand how a 70k and 100k usd Porsche beat a by the way base Mach 1 without the handling pack and better tires idk what to tell ya.
@@phohai6075 LoL
@@everydaymaverick2166 Exactly. For comparable price, put the C8 Corvette in there. That Mustang has the same engine as a $35k Mustang GT. But it wouldn't be carwow if it didn't have biased comparisons. Jeremy Clarkson 2.0
@@phohai6075 Nah. Americans just don’t understand power to weight ratios. That’s all. I’ve seen this outcome from a mile away. Porsche tends to be king in the 300 - 400 HP club.
Very interesting. From this test it seems the normal Cayman is a much better deal than the GT4. The performance difference is negligible, while it's significantly cheaper.
Thats for a manual GT4 though. The gearing on that car is horrible for street use. You would get the PDK in the GT4 and utterly destroy the base Cayman.
You don’t buy a GT4 for drag races
@@Jaredscott89 I wonder why they offer it with a manual gear box then, if it's so bad. For the much higher price it should come with the PDK.
@@MacXpert74 The PDK is an option anyway?
Some buyers are simply manual only, so they want it.
The problem is it is a carry over gearbox from Audi that they modified slightly. Couple the carry over ratios designed to suit a 25inch tire and a 6500rpm peak to a 27 inch tire and 8000rpm peak...
@@wildwood444 yes. For GT Races only.
Lmao the Mustang trying to keep up 😂 I know that thing is spinning everywhere
No one looking for optimum straight line performance gets the manual.
Having the mustang in this race was just intentional disrespect. They knew what they was doing.
Yeah like, it's in a completely different class and has a completely different purpose: giving you good fun and decent practicality for as little money as possible.
@@xIcarus227 it's more expensive than the base cayman though
They can’t drive for crap. 13.7 is laughable. Even automatic GTs do 12 seconds all day.
@@angelgjr1999 13.7 is about right, 10-speed mustangs are just ridiculously quick. but you cant compare a muscle car like a mach 1 to one of the best sports cars money can buy. maybe a 10-speed or a base gt350 for this race.
@@510cj8 13.7 is not about right ... Where do you get your info ? 2011-2022 gt are all under 12 seconds in every test ive ever seen . Unless its throttle house....smh
Y'all need to get someone who knows how to drive in that Mustang. Mustang GTs from 2002 with 285 hp could do a 13.7 qt/mi! That Mach 1 should be perfectly capable of doing a mid 12 no problem, but it takes skill to know how to launch and shift in those manual pony cars. 0/10 for that driver! 👎🏼🤨
I laughed so hard. I do 13.4 seconds in my 2003 Mustang GT. Yet mine has like 160 less hp. The British always mess up Mustang drag times. It’s like all they can handle is automatic mid engine cars!
Its done on purpose. The 718s and m5 lost to a mustang gt at mazda speed way during car and driver's lightning lap. So the mustangs can handle as well . Why do you think they never compared an m4 6speed to a gt350?
An 02 Mustang isn’t worth a shit in this race. It doesn’t help that the Mustang is a god damn land yacht (@ +3,800 ibs) as well. HP isn’t shit when your car weighs as much as the Titanic.
@@Iridiumcosmos this mustang just beat out a $110k BMW M4 on car and drivers lightning lap even though the mach 1 has slower straight line acceleration . It also posted a faster time than a cayman S and BMW M5. You might want to look at more than one review on a car.
@@Spiritcr1jsher Okay but how does it compare to the new flagship that’s in this very video (718 GT4)? Price is a misnomer when it comes to performance. Look at the raw data between both cars and judge from there. The 718 GT4 is supposed to rival things like the C8 which it also beat by damn near 20 seconds on the Ring. So what’s the next excuse?
@carwow, you should do a cayman generations comparison 718 4.0 718 4cyl 981 & 987.
That GT4 is gorgeous and a manual too 😍
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I have my doubts on that entry level Cayman. Starting with the fact that it does not have a soft limiter, leads me to think that our guy did some tuning to the ECU....
My 19 base car doesn't have a soft limiter.
I believe when porsche gives its horsepower numbers, it's based off the power it makes to the wheels. Unlike most cars out there which they base their ratings by crank horsepower which looses almost 20% to the wheels. This mustang is making about 390 to 400 hp to the wheels. If a porsche 911 turbo s makes 650 to the wheels then that would translate to about 770 crank horsepower.
Motorweek could do 12.4 second 1/4 mile with the regular mustang GT btw. Just a bad driver here. Even in a previous carwow race against the LC500, the GT did 12.6 seconds 1/4 mile.
Also the weather. Drag racing is affected by the cold weather here as you can see. Manual and bad weather are no good for the mustang GT here.
auto vs manual.
testing equipment difference too.
why u crying?
@@thomascallan2141 why u ignoring the facts? Cry more
@@-JSLAK the facts are an american muscle car got gapped by a 4 cylinder lmao
13.7 for a 460 hp car?! I don't care how bad the conditions are, the person cannot drive for crap!
That Mach 1 is a 12.6 all day when Motor Trend or another publication drives it and a 12.0 with the 10 speed auto.
This channel always uses the worst drivers in the Mustangs they test.
Great race...but.. need a do over for the Mach 1. New driver. One year ago carwow raced the manual transmission Bullit against the Lexus and did 12.6 secs.. This Mach1 did 13.7 secs. Talking about needlessly throwing the race. Carwow should compare similar cars from previous races before releasing the video. Compare apples to apples.. manual mustang to manual mustang from previous races. Yes . Manuals are slower. But no way the Mach 1 does 13.7 1/4 mile.
My 2014 mustang GT manual does the quarter in 12.7 bone stock…. Something seems off here
Something was definitely off here. Even the 2005 to 2010 4.6 GT with only 300 horsepower was mid-13s in the quarter with the manual unless you completely blew the launch. ANY new V8 Mustang is a 12 second car, manual or otherwise.... unless you have absolutely no driving skill.
user error
That just proves engineering is the key here !! The Germans made a 4 cylinder 2.0 car destroy V8 5.0 engine !!
With turbos who doesn`t? put a Mustang turbo and easily can eats 720s in pure straight performance.
@@FEGTTTSDH what ?! Lol bro check the same channel you will see a Porsche V6 destroys mustang V8 5.0 with a super charge 700 hp! I’ve seen Porsche with a V 6 stock engine smokes Ferrari and lambo with a V 12 😬🤭. German engineering is something else !
apples to oranges, the c8 would be a better comparison. But yes it's all about engineering.
@@whalegh6861 hahaha who deletes My replies? Well look arround this is not the only channel... The Mustang is not a bullet but is not this slow...
I don't get, why your numbers in the UK are totally different than ours in the US? It's so odd do they detune engines when they ship them to the UK?
Love the GT4
The reality is a human controlling gears is slower than a robot controlling gears
Most of the difference is actually due to the ratios.
Sports plus mode in GT4 comes with auto blip.
@@CaptJofaz hi CaptTwat.
@@Jaredscott89 gear ratios and flywheel upgrades.
@@purwantiallan5089 Who cares? The factory setup is what is being reviewed.
For Porsche 's having FANTASTIC brakes, and the Mustang being 400kg heavier, that was PHENOMENAL braking from the Ford!!!! 😃
The normal Cayman surprised me. It's really decent, the normal Cayman that is. Especially for braking, the normal Cayman really impressed me. Factoring in price, that normal Cayman is a great buy considering! Normal Cayman.
Carwow absolutely needs driver mods 😂
Yeah, as a Mustang GT owner and enthusiast this really doesn't surprise me: The manuals in the mustangs aren't anywhere near as good as the autos, tthey need to be launched WAY harder [4k+ RPM] and they're definitely heavier. The entire platform is a good BASE, but they take some additional work to really make the 5.0 scream..... a few bolt ons, a set of coilovers..... maybe a supercharger kit ; ) And of course the big draw is the reliability compared to most Porsche vehicles [I'm in The States, and for whatever reason they just degrade fast] And I'm sorry, but that V8 growl just KILLS those little engines.....
I got tears in my eyes when I heard Mat quoting £47k for the Porshe! Here in India, we will be paying at least double of it.
So....from other videos I saw the auto Mach 1 gets around 12 seconds on the quarter mile. Ok, it's the US version with 480HP. But does 20HP difference and a manual really mean 1.7 seconds on the quarter mile? Or is the UK version broke?
Seems to me the guy in the stang can’t get a good takeoff
@@sa1837 a good muscle car is still only meant for fun so it makes sense why it's a manual and can't really expect a human to get better starts than auto launch
After all is said about the mustang I would still take the Mustang if given a choice
Why?
The only thing the pony is good for is burning rubber at a traffic light. The GT4 is a propper race car.
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@@Rick2010100 mustang is not a race car especially that March 1 and gt it does exactly what u say about it burn rubber and sound awesome that's the whole point of the car
@@flyjbaker coz it's a mustang
Mach1 30% heavier and manual (although a beautiful drivers gear box). Grabber Yellow. Beautiful. Mach1 sounds different class. Plus do some small mods and your away!!
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of course the flat six
Next time Matt should drive the Mach 1. That way we know it's being driven by someone who knows how to drive a manual. 1sec difference between the Automatic V8 5L seems to big of a gap.
My 1985 mustang gt , stock 210hp around 3000lbs. WIth 3:73 gears, underdrive crank pulley and flowmaster mufflers i ran a 13.8 . How is 460hp in a current stang running only 13.7? Lets say better launch maybe a mid to low 13 seconds? smfh
It would have been closer if the Ford were equipped with the 10 speed auto, which is significantly quicker than the manual (even if the latter is more enjoyable to drive).
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@@MotorsByHG stop spamming your video in the comments
That pdk makes all the difference. That mustang is a second off what manual mustangs are doing at the track near me. So I would say it needs a driver mod. Plus the 10 speed mustang is much quicker then the manual.
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Not a mustang fan, but the Mach1 does 1/4 mile in low 12's, might want a driver mod in that car.
That might change the outcome for the drag race from a launch, but it still performed terribly in the roll races, which don’t require any driver skill.
An auto can do that, on a prepped strip, with roll-out...
@@Jaredscott89 Roll-out is only accounted for in 0-60 times, but yeah the 10-speed auto might make a difference.
@@joachimsandgaard Not quite, its time spent looking for grip or bogged down that isn't actually measured in the run.
It does make a difference.
@@joachimsandgaard Alternatively you can easily see in a run where you start at 0km/h or starting at 4-6km/h.
Obviously one is going to cover 402m quicker.
I would love to see 1/4 trap speeds to get an idea of how much top end each car has!!
It needs the A10, I managed a 12.2@190km/h on the street with my A10 GT EU spec. Did have wider PS4S tires though
The gearing on the manual EU mustangs are shit. Also should use the flat shifting in the manual, no need to lift the throttle during the gear changes when you are on WOT
Thanks for the video anyway, I’ll take the GT4 :)
The only time the mustang got out in front was during a brake test 😂
I'm feeling bad for the the mustang fan boys. That driver was literally a full second slower in the 1/4 vs last time they tested it lmao. Did u catch how slow he was shifting gears? 0% effort to win, it's like he didn't want it to do well..
This Should have been a more enjoyable race if there was a driver mod. Unfortunately.
Like a friend of me say... There is no replacement for TURBO !!! Lol ;)
Sure the Porsches are faster than the Mustang (I love all of them), but I would go for a old school NA V8 Mustang 😃👍. Also, can we have a compilation of Mat going crazy? xD🤪
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But gt4 sounds way better than the mustang imo. It just has a sweater tone. The mustang sounds loud but its not the good type of loud.