How to Choose a Bass Drive Pedal: Overdrive, Distortion & Fuzz | Reverb
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2019
- Bass players with access to dirt boxes like overdrives, fuzz, and distortion need not live in the shadow of lead guitarists. Today, bassist Jake Hawrylak is back in the studio to help you select effects that will lend character and richness to your bass tone.
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I tell bands all the time "you need to turn down the dirt on your guitar(s) and turn UP the dirt on the bass."
Just whisper on the side to the bassist to bump the mids. Nobody has to know 🤫 We already know how guitarists are.
@@Casual_Shots 😂
someone over here doing God’s work
Enki Ea why
@Jay Bee watch the video and appreciate the groove done too wrong
"Distortion is pretty simple it's just overdrive but more"
Yea, I lost it after this xD
Except that's not entirely true. Overdrive is generally soft clipping which is like gently stretching the waveform to the threshold. Distortion usually refers to hardclipping which pushes the sound over the threshold and chops off any part of the wave that goes over.
Reece Deyoung then fuzz just turns the wave into a square wave like an absolute unit. Simple, yet so god damn effective
@@reecedeyoung6595 this is the best explanation I’ve heard so far.
@@reecedeyoung6595 so its like overdrive but more....with compression
The green Russian muff is so good with a bass. The thump of the low end on the muff just complements basses so well.
To me the reissue was way too much on bass. I really like the Wren and Cuff Elephant Skin and now im also really excited about the opamp reissue!
@@HexBreakerDoom "way too much on bass"? - No such thing! :)
Agreed. You can’t get any better than a Green Russian or a Bass Big Muff. The first time I heard a Green Russian on bass was Robert Sledge from Ben Folds Five. Can’t get enough.
@@owenhodge4013 I like the new Green Russian a lot. One of the best for bass and costs a lot less than most of em.
@@bflo1000 Yeah, it’s a beast. You tried the Orange Fur Coat? If you’re a Green Russian fan, then you’d probably really dig it!
Interestingly enough - the first pedal was a Maestro Fuzz, and the demo'd it on bass. So you could say fuzz was born for bass.
Yep, so it was...
It was also born of the bass and the first track with recorded heavy distortion was done so on a bass through a broken sound board.
You had me at sequined pants.
the bassist in my band is very well appreciated, very loud and very well taken care of
I saw this video and recently picked up the EHX battalion and it is FANTASTIC, brings out all the best sounds in my jazz bass. Gritty, dirty, clean, all the best sounds.
The Rat is my number one. It works well for most styles. Stacking dirty pedals is the what you need to do. Helps a lot on bass. Also, you can just use the boss LS2.
Just bought a Rad X by Pepers pedals which is a rat clone which has different clipping options and X mode which is like the ruetz mod on a rat. Bloody tasty 😋
Hard to go wrong with a ProCo Rat. I had one for a while with some capacitor mods and using 1n4001/1n5818+1n5817 clipping diode pair for slight asymmetry. Though these days, I use an EHX Op Amp muff clone I built with the tone stack removed and some cap mods...most guitar pedals on bass have way too small input and coupling caps... That circuit is the opposite. Caps are way too huge to make up for bass lost at the tone control.
Only thing you have to watch with the LS2 or any kind of split and blend is make sure the dirt pedal doesn't invert polarity.
@@isher9035 Any tips on a schematic? Was eyballing the prices on some of the more complex gear and I'm pretty sure I could build that stuff for way cheaper
@@SpaghettiEnterprises The opamp is externally compensated. You don't *have* to use an LM308. Just do the math and any single externally compensated opamp will work if you find out what cap will keep the same slew rate. The only other real difference between the versions is clipping diodes. Rat = 1n4148, Turbo = Red LEDs, YDR = 1n34a Germanium. You might try 1n4001's. I built one with a 1n4001 and 1n5817+1n5818 and actually really liked that.
This is my first video seeing Jake and I hope you have him on a ton more. He really did a great job explaining things and giving an in depth view of what each pedal does and the sounds they are capable of. His playing gave great and clear examples of each pedal, please use him more!
The EvilFuzz sounds so broken. I love it
The first time I’ve worried that a RUclips video might blow a speaker. 😄
We used to use a Marshall Shred Master for Bass distortion. We cranked the contour knob, it was beautiful
With most of these pedals I can't help think of a lot of great bassists that used them, like Krist Novoselic for the ProCo Rat and Cliff Burton and Chris Wolstenholme with the Big Muff. Also holy hell that Evil Fuzz was something, it sounded like something from an old retro video game or something..
Way Huge Green Rhino has been one of my go to dirt pedals for the past few years
People ask me about my tone all the time, it's just a Green Rhino in front of a Sansamp. Sounds like heaven, cannot recommend enough
Darkglass Microtubes B3K. I spent literally years looking for a fuzz, overdrive or distortion pedal that could make the sound I heard in my head. Then I saw a video with the B3K and it was close, really close. I bought it, and it with a bit of tweaking I had the sound. Raw, but with no loss of bottom end and the sustain is controllable so I can pick fast and still hear each note. I've run it into both valve (tube) and solid state amps, with great results.
this is the best bass effect video in youtube
Not even a bassist and had to like this. Respect the passion. Rumble on bass bro.
The Almighty Bass fuzz sounds incredible. I love how clear and controlled it sounds. I also love the Op-Amp Big Muff, which I'd use if I want to blur the notes while getting a deeper fuzz tone.
Big Muffs are great on bass but get pretty much any of them except the op-amp one. It's not bad but the other all sound a little bit more full and deep.
That LED on the Gemini is HUGE, need a dimmer for that ball of flame.
It’s so angry
Thanks Jake, this vid clears up somethings I was wondering about. Cheers.
Fender Jazz Bass overdrives beautifully. It has a grind with the SansAmp BDDI that I don't get with my other active humbucker pickup bass.
For me I prefer HBers, especially dirt pedals. First of all, you don't get the low end and depth w single coils. Second of they are noisy. Especially w the higher gain pedals.
That tube screamer had an awesome sound, very clean sounding distortion /drive.
This was very helpful. I got a Tech 21 Bass Fly Rig 2 with the built in Fuzz and Drive and I was confused by the difference between OD, Distortion and Fuzz. This video helped clear things up and also helped me understand that some of the awful noises I can get is somewhat nature of these effects.
the evil fuzz was something that Sunn O))) or Sleep would use, very heavy, very filthy and all awesome
Too choked.
I could never see Al Cisneros use one of those. It doesn’t match Sleeps vibe at all. I could see Electric Wizard using one tho
It kinda sucks going through and looking for these during this time to realize that everything is priced so much higher than it used to be. Take for example the Boss ODB-3, it used to be priced at 50-86$. Now it's priced around 90-130$...
Everything went up except my wages
Try Craigslist, we don't have it where I live but on the equivalent on my country there's like 3 for sale between 70 and 80 euro.
Wait til you hear about gas prices!
RIP OCD
I really like this host, his videos are always very to the point.
I'm a guitar guy who is now leaning into bass because that's what is needed, and I grabbed the Battalion along with a Sire P5, and it all works together very well. The XLR out is very quiet - low noise. The Blend knob is very useful, and with the separate level for the distortion, you can save distortion mode for the exact amount of volume/grit kick for that last bridge in the song. Just enough to punch through.
This dude was fun to listen to. Informative and fun. Thanks much
Great video brother!! Thanks!!
I'm new here, but your good speech at the beginning made me subscribe
Sweet video! Thanks!
Excellent video.
DOD 250 is crazy good for thickening a bass line.
That TS 808 nuked the low end... Imho blend ist almost a must have on all bass dirt boxes for that reason.
I use a kma tyler the frequency splitter to have only the high-end go into my drive. Sending the low end to compression and then layering them over each other. It really helps keep low-end but also getting dirt.
one of my favorites that i wasn't expecting is the catalin bread sabbra cadabra, it rips so hard on bass
What a beautiful sound
Really interesting video ! I tend to skip all dirt pedals on bass because it always makes the sound too thin, lacks of bass ...
man there are some really killer tones in this demo. the ocd is my favorite but the rat is the meanest
If anyone is looking into the MXR M80 Bass DI+, the sound of the distortion sounds more like a trebly fuzz as opposed to a classic distortion sound. I regret buying this over the SCR-DI for distortion purposes, but the clean tone of the M80 is nice and warm. I use a separate Joyo Vintage Overdrive (TS808 clone) in tandem with my M80 for a "driven" sound.
one of the most simpatico pedal review videos!
Don't forget the effect a tube amp has when using dirt pedals. Tube amps seem to deal a little 'better' with the harsh edges of the texture of a distortion. And don't forget to defeat the tweeter ;)
Fuzzrocious Dark Driving is an awesome sounding low gain overdrive
Fulltone 69 is a surprisingly excellent fuzz on bass.
BAT Pharaoh, very versatile and awesome sounding fuzz
+1 for the OCD, or Olde Dirty Bass which is an OCD tuned by Dunwich Amplification. This means very tasty!!
Listen to “Life Goes on” by Toad. That bass player has so much overdrive on his bass it’s almost matched up with the guitar
Hey man, badass comment I never hear any one talk about Werner Fröhlich any bass players out there need to listen to toad pigs walk and that’ll show you what a fucking bass player can do!
Best intro of all time.
Damnation Audio MBD-1, Dunwich Volt Thrower. Two great bass distortions.
Intro bass riff? OCD second riff? Please reply! Almost sounds Red Fang?
That Gemini IV sounded really interesting.
Ehx Bass soul food and ampeg scrambler are tight.
2:13 or the EBS MultiDrive which I also own. DI, Compressor, Distortion and Effectsloop.
thanks for demoing each pedal with a bassline likely to be appropriate for the style...but incidentally i invented the circuitry for evil fuzz when i was 18 months old and stuck a metal fork in an outlet, so i'm going to be in touch with them about royalties
What pedal for that first Glassjaw album, ‘Everything you wanted to know about silence’ bass tone?
🙏🏼 I’m a big fan of the EQD Hoof Reaper V2
My bass player is in 3rd year Jazz...very competent. We did a punk / grunge song and tried every distortion and fuzz including bass specific distortion and in the end we just recorded it 100% thru Boss DS1 it was just cheap buzz saw nasty and spitting fury, I didn't even bother using the dry signal. On another track for the chorus I overdubbed some psychedelic bass chords high up the neck thru a Boss FZ-3 (a very smooth tasteful fuzz) into a Maxon PT 999 phaser, resulting in really lush and smooth phased fuzz. People often forget distortion CAN actually be kind of mellow too if used tastefully
It's all about context, experimenting with your gear can lead to doing great stuff that you wouldn't be able to do if you followed the walked path
@@jery3385 Yeah, it helps I'm s producer, I can HEAR the sound of the pedal in the mix before I use it.
I think you're confusing "attenuate" and "accentuate"
Yeah, I thought that. A pedal that attenuates low frequencies is going to be one that isn't so good for bass as a result. I think he meant either accentuate or attuned.
all drive pedals attenuate low end, they have to otherwise it'll become overwhelming. he is saying that bass drives attenuate low end to different amounts for bass, to retain the same amount of thunk.
Trying to get something that will match the distortion of the bass player from the band sleep any suggestions? I was thinking the OCD or big muff op amp
Does anyone have some tipps to stacking a green rhino and a ampeg scrambler? As i have both but i find it frustrating to dial in the scrambler and don't realy know how to arange these two. Maybe the scrambler just doesn't respond badly to the Batteries i tried on it. I wanted to use it to get some basic grit but it keeps clipping awkwardly like a spoonful-of-soup fart. So i put it at the end for now it also lowers the volume quite substancial or there is even more clipping
What song is that first bassline in the intro from?
Any one of Fuzzrocious’s pedals will work great on bass.
Bravo!
OCD rules! Stacks great with other overdrives too.
My weapons of choice are the Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra and the DOD Carcosa
Wow, I though I was hearing a dirty Rhodes when that Daredevil kicked on!🤘
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes.
What riff is that song from un the Daredevil demo?
I would like to see a bass demo of fuzz pedals specifically: Old Blood Noise Endeavors Alpha Haunt. Thanks!
Wich kind of guitar is this yellow beauty in the background at right side? Thanks!
3 words: Darkglass Alpha Omega. The best pedal i've ever bought, and it's not close. That thing has so many options it's not even funny, and will absolutely give me any distorted tone I want, from slight fuzz to punchy Geddy tones to full blown heavy metal mess. It's a bit pricey, but I will never EVER go to any gig or practice without it. It even has a parallel output so you can split your signal if you want to!
Favorite bass drive pedal is the EarthQuaker Westwood. Good blend and a bass knob. Keeps your lows in the mix
Looking forward to more of this series.
I just ordered a proco rat after watching this gives me old mayhem vibes😼🤘
B:Assmaster. King of bass fuzz.
Legend
Is the mic on the cab a KSM 353?
EQD Westwood has been perfect for me.
The Boss BB-1x Bass Driver is better than the ODB-3 i reckon :)
I set the gain fairly low and leave it on all the time as an amp sweetener and use a Bass Big Muff Pi for the gnarleyness :P
0:00 what song?
I'd love to have an EHX battalion, dig the blend. That said, I've had some amazing luck with my $15 Danelectro Fab Distortion fwiw.
Danelectro are the kings of cheap gold. Their original 18V Cool Cat chorus is the best bang for buck on the market. I use it all the time on harmonica. My student picked one up mint condition for $60 Australian (about $40 US), it's great on guitar, very unique and lush. Also their original brown Fab Tone pedal is totally nasty spitting distortion. It gets bad reviews all the time because it's like a large dentist drill but hardcore dudes love it and you can get them for $35 US online. It's like Danelectro's metal zone
Agree 100%. Danelectro has some great pedals...I've been using a FAB delay on my guitar board and my bass board for over a decade. Bought the pedal new for 25.99
I dig the Eisenhower fuzz as well
After years of being a purist running into an older than me SVT, I bought a Russian Big Muff to throw in front of my amp. I've since bought a slew of other pedals that get used, but the only thing people have consistently asked about is the big muff. There's always an "Oh man that thing sounds great, I play this that and the other and get these tones. What is it you like about the muff?". To that I say "I got it for $50 at a pawn shop". Find what you can afford and find a way to make it yours. If you can buy a fresh Wren & Cuff, go for it. If you can only afford a used Boss, do it. Every cunthair's width of a turn on the knobs offers something that can make you sound definitively like you. Dollars be damned. Also if you're thinking back to me owning a 70's SVT, I found it for $200 on Craigslist.
What is the song at 7:20?
What was the pedal used in the intro?
I just choose them all with the source audio aftershock but close seconds are the dark glass b3k and amptweaker bass tight metal jr, yes, it's obvious that I play indie music
a good bass drive is very important, at least if you have a kinda dead sounding solid state amp. so far my favorites are the basic audio tri/ram muff or similar for fuzz, skychord truck loud for big op amp drive and for a versatile all-in-one, the ampeg scrambler DI.
Where did you get your truck loud? Been looking for one for about a year now!
@@cidicorp bought it almost ten years ago new from a dealer. you probably know they're discontinued now, but i see em pop up used sometimes. good luck on your quest!
Personally use the JHS Pandamonium, Way Huge Pork Loin and Green Rhino, VT also when necessary
YO anyone who is interested in trying uncommon dirt pedals check out Damnation Audio's loop blend pedal. Gives an adjustable low-passed blend to any pedal you throw into it. Only really see it have any hype on message boards like Talkbass for whatever reason but it's sick.
I use blend pedals all the time. It's bring more clarity and depth to the tone.
So, if you were building a mini board, would you rather pick a Fuzz OR and OD? Having both is kind of redundant?
Not really redundant. It depends on what OD/fuzz, how you're using it, and what the musical context is. Sometimes fuzz doesn't really fit the music. In one of my bands we play a lot of classic rock and classic rock-inspired originals, and while overdrive works great for that music, fuzz almost never does. Whereas in another one of my bands we play heavier grunge type music, and I use fuzz all the time without any fuss.
i was messing with a maxon 808 regular guitar OD pedal and it actually sounds MEAN in front of a super clean fender 1x15 combo. i really see no need for me to get a bass version honestly.
The sequin pants never work for me so im lookin to try a vest and overdrive.
team awesome fuzz machine is my fav for bass dirt
Would have been nice to include the MXR, the Sans Amp, and the Bass Tube Screamer - possibly the best ones - in your little comparison, but you skipped them for some unknown reason. That was a missed opportunity to say the least.
i’m just trying to get that slowdive sound... help
What is that first bass line???
I want a Bass with distotion but it seems expensive. I also bought a Uke for 60 bucks and bearly touched it. I wanted to use the Uke to get into the Bass :/
Really can't go wrong with a rat and a muff... You're covered for both guitar and bass. Rat more versatile, muff more angry and dirt, with more personality. Everything else is a take on these two pedals, with the exception of overdrive like the ts808 that you can still get in the ballpark with the rat.
No zvex mastotron?
0:27 to 0:45 is sooo true. his outburst at 0:51 is so funny, a lot of bassists feel that way.
The bass player from Estrons has the one of the gnarliest sounds ever. But maybe it's because their guitar stays mostly clean.
can anyone please tell me what he is playing at 6:01, i love this sound bad cant figer it out ?
Believe it or not, I think it’s the OCD. Listen to that part you’re talking about and then listen to the OCD when he starts playing it. I had an OCD but it didn’t sound like that. The one I had was version 2.0
That amp! 😀😃
U forgot the the really monstrously mxr m85... A brutal monster, with options to solve so many wishes...
The picked EH is pure Motorhead and the Rat is best tonally for pure distortion imo.
Useful demo. Funny commentary on the woes of being a bass player. Assert yourself bass-man!
Read it in a German accent:
*Assert yourself, Base Mahn!*
‘The number 4 is simple’
‘It’s just 1 but more’
Rat was like Bee's in a Tuna-fish can. Evil Fuzz = too spitty. Daredevil sounded great. EHX op-amp is great too on Bass.
Where is this riff from? 7:20