A little tad of lore that I found interesting when someone pointed it out. When it comes to 5P dumping the rot out the window, he didnt just dump only the rot. He threw an entire memory conflux out the window as well as the cooling towers in order to try to save himself, this is shown in how the underwater rot room in garbage wastes has the conflux hole, as well as how 5P is missing one conflux ingame, having 15 instead of 16. Which raises the question. how the hell can an iterator perform a lobotomy on itself?
They seem to be modular components, so it makes sense to me. However I now wonder if this specific memory conflux is the actual ground zero of 5P rot infestation, that would explain the need to eject this one ... If this is true then it didn't work ...
@@lhemnenn4713 but if you compare the memory conflux room that got ejected and the surrounding rooms it doesnt look like it started there. although with that being said the rot could have spread to the conduits before 5p got to detect and contain it, hence the crude dumping of just one memory conflux room.
I always thought the abstract convergence manifold was possibly the subconscious of an iterator. Or the “personality” they seem to take on. The names of the 5P organisms are: wall mycelia (wall hair thingies), coral neurons (red noodles)and coral stems (the tentacles) according to the files and in game dev tools
The fact it's specifically 'mycelia' also implies that as a semi-organic superstructure, it also has a network of mushroom-fungus tied into it, which parallels mycelium networks being symbiotic with groups of trees - except, given that mushrooms are _questionably_ alive... maybe there's something more in that direction
You're thinking of carbohydrates, not hydrocarbons. (Easily confused, I know!) The difference is that carbohydrates have oxygen atoms in them, and hydrocarbons only have hydrogen and carbon. Sugars and starches are carbohydrates (average chemical makeup: CHO); methane and petroleum and gasoline and paraffin wax are hydrocarbons (average chemical makeup: CH2-ish). But there are totally organisms that get energy from eating hydrocarbons, though, (weird oil-eating or methane-eating bacteria), so you're still right; it even **especially** makes sense that a bioengineered organism might get energy from hydrocarbons.
@@Antal-te6rj Yeah, any of the biological components are presumably hydrocarbon-based. The neuron flies at least should be, since they're edible, assuming slugcats and other animals are also carbon-based (which is a safe bet, unless elements just work differently in this universe... probably not). The mention of silicon is interesting because it could either support the idea that iterators do a combination of biological and semiconductor-based computation, or it could just be that the water they intake has some sand in it and it's another waste product that builds up.
@@silphv It is theorized that silicon could form carbon-similar chains, meaning iterators could potentially be some kind of hybrid or chimera of silicon and carbon based life forms, but I suppose that's a bit of a stretch
I hate to be this person, but the umbilical _proper_ is actually the super long cord with all the red and blue wires that is tethered to the bottom of the puppet chamber. Moon consistently states that she was "neutered" i.e. her umbilical cord was severed in the collapse, indicated by all the loose short wires sticking out of her head. She's still attached to the large mechanical arm-like thing that's meant to rotate around the chamber, so I think technically that's a puppet (and umbilical) _rig_ . Yes it's confusing because the wiki and game sometimes refer to the whole setup as an umbilical, but for a lore video I think it's an important distinction to make and I hope you can clarify that
If we look at when Hunter start up Look's to the Moon. We see activations in the superstructure(probably where memory storage is located) the same colour as the slag reset neuron. This mans that the umbilical cord Look's to the Moon is referring to is not just some wires to a puppet. Also Look's to the Moon did state that Hunter(rot) would wake up again.
Hydrocarbons are kind of the basic building blocks of most biological structures, so if the iterators are biological in nature it'd make sense that they'd have a good amount of them. When we refer to life as "carbon-based" its usually referring to carbohydrate chains, which are basically hydrocarbons with oxygen at the ends.
As an addition to the elemental discussion: Silicon is also often known as "sand" and is probably provided by water and whatever else is being taken in, and likely forms majority of the slag with sulphuric compounds. Sulphuric compounds are likely provided with water as well; most sea grasses are generally composed mainly of hydrocarbons and sulfates with some phosphates, and I would say that it's more than likely that intake of various marine flora with the seawater is how iterators 'eat'.
the mention of specifically "sulfur" and not sulfates or anything else is interesting, the fact that some sort of sulfur molds(the organism or a shape for casting?) were mentioned in iterator logs hints that sulfur has some specific properties in rainworld, as well as it might be somehow the secreted form of sulfur-contained mass in the intake, that somehow ends up as elemental sulfur out of anything
@sirpootsman1048 the room really reminds me of neutrino detectors, where they need giant empty spaces filled with water and nothing else to detect them. so with that I think It could be something similiar, but obviously used for some sort of computing process, and with different particles as rain world probably has different rules of physics compared to us. alternative theory: mass gathering place for all neurons in structure, perhaps for some obscure computing process
Man, I'm so happy there's more people besides me who are interested in the Iterator technical details! I had an alternate proposal in my head about the Recursive Transform Array(I don't mean to upstage you). I was thinking that the name "Recursive Transform Array" could also refer to a type of mathematical operation called a transform. They transform one function f(x) of one set of inputs into another function F(s) of another set of inputs, almost like rephrasing a sentence in different terms. For example, a Fourier Transform can convert a waveform (e.g.: pressure defined over time) into its component frequencies and how "loud" these frequencies are; expressing something defined as a function of time f(t) into something as a function of frequencies, F(s). My idea was that Recursive Transform Array might take the looping, recursive, iterated computations of the Iterator and convert them into concrete, singular thoughts. This might also fit with how similar RTA and Abstract Convergence Manifold are, what with the "electrical equipment" featured in both, as well as the apparent correlation in their location between Pebbles' and Moon's structure. This is just an idea in my head, and I'd be glad to hear any counter-evidence or counter-arguments.
It was less of a "thing" back in 2017, but "transform", in the sense of a matrix multiplication, is what underlies neural network "AI" stuff, quite relevant today. "Arrays" of which are referred to as "transformers". Which is kind of annoying as a "transformer" is already a noun, the electrical component; but I suppose we can have multiple, whatever.
honestly kind of a stretch considering they make the same noise as transformer coils irl and also behave the same way, just glowing blue to be more sci fi esque and resembling of mosquito lights, which electrocute you when you touch them just like they do in real life.
18:27 In regards to "rapid cooling" emergency regulation, it's description in the text indicates to me that it's similar in function to a modern nuclear reactor's Emergency Core Cooling System (ECCS) that's used to shut down a reactor so it doesn't end up having a meltdown.
Do also note that rapid heating and cooling is really terrible for the longevity of mechanical components of basically any kind. So, it does make sense that it's a last ditch attempt and you will NEED emergency maintenance afterwards.
17:03 like with most things in chemistry, things that will kill you instantly become vital if reacted with one or two other things(ex: explosive metal and caustic gas react to form table salt) so just because you shoudlnt rub elemental sulfur on your skin doesnt make it non vital for some functions in your body. basically most chemicals are bad for you if theyre at the wrong level, not just sulfur. that being said we have no idea if life in RW is anywhere close in similarity to life on earth, so biochemical processes could be completely different. 18:37 imo rapid cooling could be an endothermic chemical reaction that cools things down, but i would assume creates toxic byproducts(slag)
Minor typos in your first paragraph made me confused for a sec, thought you might wanna be aware of them Edit: he fixed them or I read it wrong in the first place heh
I'm pretty sure slag is just the ancient's fancy biomechanical term for the waste products produced by the biological processing strata. In other words, iterators are constantly shitting and pissing and crying when they have to do work.
20:52 these guys are actually called wall mycelium so it may be a type of fungus or smth, not very important just food for thought ( they are called that in the code)
I don’t think they’re a fungus, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Neuron Flies interacting with them (like they do with the things at 21:30), so they’re supposed to be there, and having something be a fungus as opposed to… an… animal? What exactly would you consider these things? Anyways, fungus feed on other organisms which doesn’t really make sense… or actually maybe it does, them being a fungus taking nutrients from whatever it’s sending the signals to, that actually makes sense as that’d be a pretty good way to keep it nourished. Nevermind I now think it is a fungus, but a fungus that’s supposed to be there.
9:13 Rarefaction is actually explained by Moon in the Pipeyard Pearl: "The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction. Of course this undertaking required extremely pure samples to properly craft rarefaction cells." Now, this is just my theory, but I think rarefaction cells use Void Fluid to convert mass (in case of Iterators, probably water) directly into energy. To understand how much energy this will create: 1 cubic meter of water (264 gallons for Americans out there) would be enough to power our whole current civilization for almost a year.
The Memory Conflux rooms are labeled as being “Labs” in game so I always assumed they were for doing experiments. Part of 5P’s “LAB” rooms are inside of Unfortunate Development, which implies that’s where his Rot started.
If going by the theory that the memory conflux is a bunch of testing chambers, the red grids the spiders are making could be the physical version of all the simulations that the iterators are said to run. Also the silicon mentioned in the broadcast is most likely just another part of the slag cloggage the same as the sulfur.
Btw 5P mentions the player to use the hole which leads to the wall instead of general bus system, mentioning he doesnt like "his memory arrays being scrached" Which is likely be the red webs made by these little spiders
I've always imagined the red grids are the processing strata. Slag, in common parlance, is a silica-based glass used in metal refining, especially smelting and welding. Glasses can also be made from sulfur-based compounds (chalcogenide glasses). The temperatures required to melt these are rather incompatible with general iterator operation (for sure, nothing is glowing hot, or melting like lava), so it's probably not that directly, but within the space of "[the author]'s misusing terms to paint a picture and you just have to figure out what it means in-universe", it'll be something along these lines. Silica, and sulfides, are hardly soluble in water, but given enough temperature, pressure and time, they can be transported, and form crystalline deposits (hydrothermal veins) in the earth. These wouldn't be called "slag", but perhaps the Ancients used the term as shorthand for this (fulfilling the interpretation of meaning per above). Perhaps a slurry could also be transported, perhaps in extreme cases (analogous to when one has cloudy urine, or stones), but not without some becoming cemented to the pipe walls and such (hence analogizing with arterial plaques, and Moon literally having a "[H]eart attack").
Babe, wake up. Now Das…wait…where are you? There’s a note here! Could it be her? “If you’re reading this, this is not the first time you’ve read this. Go to the doctor and get treated, because I don’t know what’s happening to you! To me! Please! I don’t know how long this has been going on for, and I don’t know how long I’ll last.” Huh, I guess I will… What was I doing? Oh! A new Daszombes vid dropped, I guess I’ll tell the ol’ missus. Hey babe, new Das…wait…
The memory conflux is most likely just that, a place where the memory of the Iterators goes and the red grid is where the memory is stored. Also im pretty sure that there are more sections of an Iterator then we have seen, perhaps there is a section that make all the Inspectors, overseirs or neuron flies, surely they have to come from some where.
That’s what I thought aswell, it seemed obvious that this is what the memory conflux is, and it also makes sense that most of the rooms aren’t traversable to us, only these certain rooms, it would make sense that most processing rooms and other dingle-dangle areas are just closed off by both iterators for their own reasons.
YES! why havent anyone said this before? we havent been exploring the whole iterator, probably just the middle. There is probably so many other things in there we just dont know about.
For the Sulfur and Silicon in Moon's systems, it's likely with her facilities taking such a shock and such damage, she took in mass amounts of unfiltered water which contained Sulfur and Silicone, the unhealthy components would be like.... Well, having those same things in her blood! She'd essentially be having blood clots from material build up in her systems, like, all sorts of sand and soot is presumably where the silicon is coming from. And Sulfur is likely present in the ground water. So when she was being starved of water, her systems took major damage, and the next cycle she was able to get water, her systems were too damaged to properly filter it all and she took in all sorts of unwanted poisons from the ground water, which only messed up her systems even more. To better understand what exactly would happen; many houses without a water filter will find their pipes both corroding and becoming caked with sediment, like Calcite, which will cause even more damage to the pipes over time and fuck with water pressure, as well as making the home owner unknowingly use water that is way too high in chemicals and minerals. This is essentially whats happened to Moon.
Ugh god, no wonder her temporary crashes looked/sounded so painful. Imagine passing an untold amount of blood clots through every single system of your body at once - your heart and brain especially - continuously, for *days...* 😖
It would explain why the failure took a while. If the slag was only building up from thermal energy then Look's to the Moon would of been dead within a few cycles. I would like a more clear explanation on the process of slag build-up. Also iterators unlike hibernation chambers. Have many backups and redundancies. So the recovery was when every everything was redirected to systems that were already damaged. Normally this would go unnoticed in an iterator.
@@Voreoptera Sheer amount of processing strata in the Iterator's body requires a lot of water. This metabolic process also produces a large amount of problematic waste (slag) which needs to be dumped. The overclocking of components or the undersupply of water can result in excess slag buildup, which severely hurts the iterator especially the processing strata as they essentially fester in their own shit.
some notes on the file names: everything iterator related in dev tools falls under a category called CoralBrain, my guess is that conceptually iterator internals were supposed to be more coral reef-like but verged away from that later on 20:13 - these red guys are just called CoralNeurons in the files 20:37 - these are referred to as CoralCircuits. the white spider guys never get a name :( 20:51 - these whisker things are called WallMycelia in the files 21:31 - these are called CoralStems, theres also a fancy variation on them called CoralStemsWithNeurons that has one of the red neuron guys attached to it there's also an effect sometimes seen in the background of iterator rooms (it looks like blue wavy patterns) called DeepProcessing The rot also has some dev-tools file-name funkiness. its almost exclusively called "corruption" in the game. there's Corruption, CorruptionTube, and CorruptionDarkness. the only rot related thing that isn't called corruption are proto long legs, which are given the very unfortunate name of "StuckDaddy" last note is that in the level editor, the sticks coming off of the wall are referred to as "cooling rods"
The wall things being called “cooling rods” suggests to me that water is passed through them after taking heat from the processors, so they are like the cooling towers at a power plant. It could be that the remaining water picks up waste chemicals on a second circulation of the processors to dump it from the vents.
The Recursive Transform Array is likely where a lot of power being supplied to the structure is shifted and routed. Transformers are used to alter the voltage in a circuit going through one port and out the other, either by increasing or decreasing their value using electromagnetism and inductors. This is to ensure that the right amount of power is going to the right loads in a circuit. The voltage coming in through transmission lines is far too much for a traditional residence, for example, so a transformer is used to reduce that voltage to a much smaller amount, that way the electrical components in the house won't overheat or break. Those green boxes you see in the suburbs are examples of these, which typically send individual power lines to several houses in the vicinity.
4:41 though i thought moon said her umbilical was severed at some point despite keeping the robotic arm thingamajig attached? i thought that meant the umbilical were the wires attached to the puppet and the arm 5:56 given the dream you get after five pebbles, i assume some of the newer iterator models have lit up eyes as well, since his were yellow in that. 8:12 though the heart's only in moon and was most likely replaced by a linear power rail in the newer ones, since that one pearl given to moon says only newer ones have linear power rails, pebbles not having a heart, and both storing a rarefaction cell. 9:15 if it counts, a pipeyard pearl states "The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction.". 17:16 the silicon may just be for repair of the electrical bits. i would guess that repair of that is supposed to be done manually by the ancients given there's not much biological stuff in the recursive transform arrays. it might just be building up because there's no way for it to be used without people to manually repair, though again just guessing. unsure how it's obtained.
Iterators, like igloo, not eye. 15 social credits have been deducted from your honorary balance with the biomechanical collective. In lieu of this mistake I am obligated to inform you that yes, the background of the puppet chamber is indeed off to the left by one tile, and was not properly centered within the room.
There's one more bit of information about the Rot we can infer - in the Chimney Canopy pearl that seems to describe the method Pebbles attempted to use for self-destruction, it's mentioned that the stuff being mutated is "standard plastic neural tissue". If we assume these are the instructions that Pebbles acted on, we can likely assume that the Rot is mutated neural tissue specifically. (As a headcanon, I'd also assume that the Rot is specifically a mutant relative of *those ubiquitous blue-black little thin whisker-tendril thingies* that cover the interior walls. The whiskers are tendril-shaped, black with blue bulbs, sessile but show some kind of clearly active twitching which implies some ability to flex under their own power, and grow out from the walls everywhere; the proto-Rot forms big, chunky, gross tendrils, is the same kind of black-with-blue-bulbs color, is initially sessile but clearly also has some ability to flex under its own power (and eventually gains the ability to move independently), and also starts out forming big mats that cling to the walls. And the tendrils do seem to have some role in the Iterator's brain function, interfacing with neuron flies and the like, so they could easily be little offshoot nerve-hypha-things from some underlying mycelial mat of brainstuff made from the same cells; it's quite plausible that they indeed come from the cell line of "standard plastic neural tissue".)
We can't technically prove whether or not the ancients gave her an even more well endowed version of her puppet somewhere in her can, This is now my new headcanon
The lymphatic conduit systems are likely literally just a one to one with your actual lymph mode system. there are probably cleaning microbes all inside the iterator, that are designed to reproduce at the same rate that they get flushed away by the lympatic system, they likely produce sulfer as a waste product and potentially they produce silicone as part of their semi artifical biological structure. As other people have pointed out , hydrocarbons are literally the back bone of almost every biological compound.
The vents probably also take part in venting steam from an iterator as stated but at the end of a cycle all the cylinder like things on the wall are also seen venting steam so it's not just the vents
I’m pretty sure that when i was learning about busses in a computer technology class in college, the professor also either described them as like the spinal cord or brain stem
based off Moon's dialogue in Riv when you show her the rarefaction cell, i think iterators definietely have multiple "the heart" equivalents "In the wake of my... accident... all of my rarefaction cells were dislodged on impact and washed away in the flood waters."
21:31 okay so when I was researching for my fanfic, what I found to be closest to these tentacle things was called a Myelin Sheath. In an organism, myelin is a type of lipid that protects nerve cell axons, and the shape of the axon with the myelin sheath surrounding it looks almost exactly like these guys. Not sure why iterators need a nervous system, but these look like the main components of that. (And the red things at 20:15 are probably smaller/minor versions of these, like a tree branch vs. a larger tree limb)
my idea is that the big ones attached to walls are stationary and exchange information in their one designated area while the red ones do the same thing but can move around the structure to accommodate whatever the iterator is trying to do at the time. then again I'm not sure if I've ever seen the neuron flies interacting with them before
Few notes regarding this video! 1. There's a probability that the umbilical of the iterator is more likely the cables/wires that connect its puppet to and through the arm, rather than the arm itself! Moon mentions being neutered (her umbilical being severed) despite still being connected with her arm even though it's understandably weaker, but that's probably because it simply has no power source, as it's capable of lifting Moon again once her heart gets resusciated. Also we can actually see the severed cables going from her back and not leading to the arm, unlike how it is with iterators in a better state. 2. I wanted to notice that aside from construction beams, the Legs/Struts also contain something that looks like huge cables, tubes or otherwise communication nodes. I have no idea what their purpose might be, and for a second I might've thought that Shoreline is full of those weird snake thingies because it's said tubes falling out of her legs and being washed out nearby when her structure collapsed. But they do not fit the visuals of how those tubes look like. They might still be some other sort of Leg related machinery, but they're probably not what we see in the game - WHICH I might have a suspicion are water draining pipes that supply iterators with (relatively) clean water from the surface or the aquifers below it. 3. I'm not very sure about Iterators being just boxes of biomass as in just straight up flesh mounds. Surely, I do believe there is a lot of biomass in them, but it's probably closer to being modular arrays of purposed organisms with synthetic shells, sort of like human organs are composed of cells which in turn are composed of other... elements. Sorry, I am not a biologist by any means, lmao. But regardless, from what we're seeing it's most likely that a lot of the biomass in iterators is just creatures shaped like computer parts, or semi-synthetic growths that attach to those parts, like the whiskers or the tentacle thingies. The part of Moon's dialogue with Chimney pearl supports that since she mentions scrambling "standard plastic neural tissue", suggesting that their organs, or spare samples within their facilities, are in fact AT LEAST partially synthetic. Overall though, very good vid!
2 Water moves up the legs to the iterator for filtering or turned to steam. 3 There is no biology in the walls. However the walls do contain biological matter being moved, circuits, silicon chips, water and other things.
4:46 hmm, interesting, i was under the impression that the chord that connects to the ground of the puppet room and the wires of the iterator's heads (or backs seemingly with 5p and with the only art we have for srs) was the umbilical and thought that the arm was so they can control and orient themselves in their environment. the reason that i thought this is because this chord is completely absent from lttm post collapse, and in splash art and such, the wires that would be attaching it to her head are bent and warped at the ends, showing that they have been severed, or "cut" as she refers to it when given an overseer eye. in addition to this, moons arm does not appear to be cut in anyway and she appears to be able to move it to some extent post rivulet, however its anchor point tethering it to the wall never moves from that position again. i theorise that the reason moon couldn't move her arm post-collapse-pre-rivulet was because it was weak due to damages, in addition to having a lack of power, which was then lifted with the installation of 5ps rarefaction cell.
I mean... I think you're forgetting this is meant to calculate stuff so... arrays is probably in the sense of matrices, using them in programming to calculate complex transformations (like, math transformations, you can apply one to a function to make a process) same with "Linear systems", a branch of math, that is related to matrices so it makes more sense to me. Also, those red things seem to have a modular system, a specific shape is formed, and then pasted together and maintained by those spiders, so it may be that it's a "memory" in the sense that we are making a circuit that contains a "log" or "result" of a simulation that is run elsewhere and then stored there, making a circuit with a specific shape to remember the results of that experiment, and if it's needed you can delete that experiment and start a new one by simply making a new circuit (reseting the shapes) idk, it seems like the iterators were made with simulations made in mind, and if you wanna have a lot of simulations running at parallel you would need to make a model that runs that set of instructions, maybe that's why they are designed thay way.
I agree with this. I’ve always preferred the interpretation that the Memory Conflux is somewhat adjacent to RAM or short-term memory, where a specific calculation or thought is being constructed. That’s why Pebbles is so incensed about them specifically when you travel through them to get to his chamber (presumably shattering the red structures); you are literally derailing his train of thought, and he’s annoyed about it.
It's interesting to note that when we turn Moon's heart back on, it forms what looks like an accretion disc, and the rarefaction cell itself seems to take in matter and convert it to energy somehow. It's basically a singularity generator. Except instead of a tiny black hole it's a puddle of ultra acid.
Loved the video, everything is really good explained! Regarding the names of the things (20:07), some time ago I made some iterator rooms and I remember the name of the things from devTools, so let's go (correct me if I mess up): · Weird red dudes: Coral Neuron. It probably absorbs nutrients from the water and information from the neurons. · Funky little white spider dudes: I don't know the name of them but they automatically spawn with the Coral Circuit (which, when broken, is repaired by them). The other sphere thingies that appear to be there too are the hooks, or brackets to sustain the Coral Circuit to prevent it from completely breaking I suppose. · Little whiskers: Wall Mycelia, I think it's their way to recollect data from the neurons and pass it through other zones of their system. · Big tentacles: Coral Stems. I guess it just gives new data to the neurons that connect to it? I don't know. · Greenish electricity in the legs: Green Sparks. They appear to be, as you well said, electricity or static as they also appear to react violently when rain begins. Fun fact: in that one room (C09) in Garbage Wastes where is the pearl, and the longlegs, if you submerge you can see what appears to be a giant waste pipe that is connected to Pebbles because they tried to get rid of the rot by dumping it in the Garbage Wastes so I guess what we see in C09, below the greenish water, is a giant residual pipe connected to Pebbles to trash the infected water and that's why the rot appears in the Garbage Wastes in the first place.
If I recall right, five pebbles will tell you about it if you bring pearls to him. His dialog is slightly different byt in regards to void fluid, he goes into more detail than moon.
@@protogentau9028yeah, he said that the creators initially compared void fluid to antimatter, but while it makes sense it's apparently completely wrong ...
17:23 Slag is comprised of metal oxides and silicon dioxide. Obviously the word silicon in that sentence holds meaning; the amount of silicon in Moon may be because of slag buildup
I might be wrong cause i saw this in a post but i’m pretty sure the “umbilical” isn’t the robot arm. moon says hers was cut but she still has the arm. What she IS lacking in compared to pebbles is these connecting cables and wires. Her arm later proves to have function and is very much connected to her. It can’t be the umbilical then. Idk
Also the arm makes.. less sense as an umbilical. Moon says she lost connection to something because the “umbilical was cut” which makes sense when you think about REAL umbilical cords. The arm allows her to move, but the cords provide her necessary functions and information
Based on appearance alone, it seems like the white tentacle things at 21:31 are related to the secondary cord connected to the iterator puppets? Looking at the last frame of Rivulets ending cutscene, the signal being transferred to Pebbles appears VERY similar to what these things look like. So perchance they’re linked to said similar cord attached to the puppet? That’s how the neurons transfer data throughout the building and to the puppet? Since they’re seen approaching these things throughout the structure That’s my theory anyway
It would make sense for the heart to be flooded, if that is wehre all the power is generated, that implies it probably gets VERY hot, and needs extreme cooling.
FOr the Recursive Transform Arrays, I like to think of it as the capillaries, where the lienar power rail transfers the massive quantities of power out from the heart, the RTA power it down (thats what transformers do) and move it to where it needs to be. Also, it is stated that mass rarefaction cells are the backup power source, but it seems like they arent designed to be put in the heart of moon (it dissolves and overheats), implying that maybe there were ultramass rarefaction cells that provided primary power. We know that void fluid was essential for their construction, so I assume their primary powersource was still based on it.
Maybe the heart just needed void fluid as a catalyst, and the mass rarefaction cells functioned in a similar way just at a smaller scale. Void Fluid probably operates in all sorts of weird ways so there's no way to ultimately know
So, during the transform array segment, you mention that might be their power system. Doesn't Moon basically state that Iterators were powered by Void Fluid before the mass ascension?
Well, through the mass rarefraction cells yes. Her lines on the vortex bombs states they are broken ones, and she says they have a bit of void fluid. Void fluid was used to power everything before they went away too, it wasn't just the cells I worded that wrong. It's what made their civilization so advanced, as they got nearly limitless power from it, theoretically. What I think Das meant was its where power is stored and/or transmitted to the rest of the Iterator
I always thought the puppet the iterators used is essentially the makeup they use to give the ancients something to look at. So like, i just imagine the cans to have a little finger puppet they wiggle around.
What's heartbreaking is, in a way, Pebbles succeeded. The rot *is* a self-destruction. It's just not instantaneous. It's slow. Slowly infecting him and taking him over. And by the time he is in shambles, he doesn't *want* to circumvent the taboo anymore. And I think that is the most heartbreaking thing about his story.
Tiny correction: The umbilical is the combination of the head cables and the larger myelinated cable that they all lead into, and not the support arm (which is never canonically named). Moon refers to her umbilical as being cut. Additionally, when Suns refers to puppets not having expressions (I’m paraphrasing + can’t find the right words), they’re referring to the lack of a mouth. Moon hows very clearly in multiple ingame artworks that puppets’ eyelids are capable of emoting. The red fronds are also referred to in Devtools/the files/code/etc as nerves, thus their presence in the lymphatic system is most likely meant for controlling any sort of moving part and for having some form of sensation (Edit: Now that I think about it, you were probably referring to the blue-ish Sky Islands plants present in the Rot, and I got confused because those weren’t onscreen. I’d imagine those are a result of the extensive damage to the can allowing seeds to blow in - but that’s just speculation based on the fact that there’s a massive wound in the can that can be seen from one of the Primary Cortex rooms. I’m mostly rambling about Iterator stuff *as* I watch this video, so if anything ends up being explored later on that contradicts my ramble/criticisms I’m going to eat my shorts)
I'm pretty sure moon in her stolen enlightenment picture isn't actually emoting anything. It's just angles and shadows used to make her static face look 'pained'.
For silicon, maybe some of the iterator structures resemble Glass Sponges anatomically. That, and silicon is currently used for experimental long-term data storage.
It could be possible that the memory conflux is a form of information storage using the same tech the pearls use, the little spiders on the red mesh could be building or reforming the mesh to store more info or reading it of the mesh, also it could be possible that the reason for the water in the "heart" of LTTM is that the water is being heated to make steam and make energy using turbines or something similar, but the probabillity of that is small as we see that LTTM is powered before there is water in the rarefaction cell chamber and FP is running without any water with his cell (also pebbles's cell does not have the shell of the cell melt into void fluid so maybe then its running on low power as emergency power and the reason for LTTM's cell melts is because its being used in place of the main power sorce and the inicial startup of the cell is enough to get the water going) Also loved the video!!!
I can imagine that the "Rapid Cooling" protocol caused Moon's collapse... as in, legs give out to dump the whole can into the massive amount of water beneath to prevent whatever heat damage would cause that's worse than the can being flooded.
22:14 The rot was not the intended outcome of the experiment, actually. The way Pebbles did it, I think shown by bringing the golden pearl in Chimney Canopy to Moon, was by essentially scrambling the DNA of some unknown base organism repeatedly until he eventually got a resulting organism capable of removing the self destruction taboo _and nothing else._ This is, of course, a very slow process, unless you run loads of it at once, which is what Pebbles did, which both required intense concentration to constantly manage all the processes, and a lot of water for cooling, which Pebbles took all of Moon’s water for. After running this process for a while, Moon got desperate and used a forced broadcast on him to tell him to stop (I forget which colored pearl this is in, it’s in one of them), which presumably broke Pebbles concentration on his process while the DNA scrambling had rot created, which managed to escape and infect him (Pebbles replied to the forced broadcast with something like “You have ruined everything”). 23:03 I’ve always assumed that the cyst’s color was an indicator of health, the rot in Pebbles is all blue and healthy, the MLLs are a more purple color, and are even larger than normal DLLs, DLLs are the basic healthy blue, and BLLs are losing their color as they die (they’re smaller and deaf). Color based on what they eat might explain why there are blue BLLs inside of The Rot (by that I mean Rivulet Pebbles), though, and they just get smaller and eventually lose their hearing as they age (I imagine MLLs would basically be an extra even healthier period of time tacked on before the start of DLL lifespan) 25:30 Maybe it was built before the city? Then again, I don’t know why wouldn’t it just be plopped randomly on the top instead of the side.
Rarefaction Cells *are* explained in game! Partially. The implication seems to be creating and abusing vacuums through matter deletion. So converting matter to energy possibly has something to do with it.
8:53 Explanation of Mass Rarefaction from the Purple Pearl in Pipeyard: “The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction. Of course this undertaking required extremely pure samples to properly craft rarefaction cells. Older mines on the surface became abandoned once underground construction became much easier. Though, most nearby systems were connected anyways, regardless of age or depth. Void Fluid isn't exactly easy to purify, or even properly contain.” We can presume that the Mass Rarefaction Cell is a part of this process, though it’s hard to assume to what extent this is the case.
About the Recursive Transform Arrays at 12:30 . The first thing that comes to mind is irl transformers we use in electrical engineering to transform the electrical current or voltage, like from AC to DC for example. But who knows.
uh oh he forgor that moon said the rarefaction cells are meant for backup power and that iterators were very likely hooked up to power grids and power plants because the rarefaction cells were meant to be used when said systems were under maintenance.
Something I theorize about the rot is that it was something before the Iterators were ever created. Something that unlucky creatures would occasionally develop for one reason or another. After the Ancients discovered Void Fluid, they realized that the Rot disappeared faster than other creatures (something I believe the Hunter Ascension ending hints at), and used the fluid as a sort of cure, basically ending rot as a whole. But it was still something that existed during the time of the Ancients, so the Iterators are aware of it. I also think Rot is more likely to happen to creatures with modified genomes, like Pebbles did to himself and Hunter, which makes me think that NSH made a fatal error while making Hunter which caused rot and was unable to help him, or create a new messenger. Basically, I think it was Cancer, but more rare, and became more common when modified organisms became commonplace, and the only real solution was to use Void to kill it
You forgot to mention the precipice but that could be something exclusive for Moon and Pebbles due to their close proximity. Maybe a bridge or rail used by the ancients or for some form of cargo to transport between cities? I wonder why the ancients opted to build these two superstructures so close together.
Since 5P has collapsed at that time, they could have become an invasive species and thrived in Undergrowth because of the nutrient rich water reserves of the drainage pipes.
Iterator structures are weeeeird. I do have an idea for the weird thing the little white spiders are working on though! The sound effect for crashing through them calls them coral. And on the topic of sounds giving names to stuff, those sparks that shoot of an iterator puppet's halo make a sound called 'mycelia spark' for some reason.
When it comes to the silicon, my guess would be some form of silicon based life, in which case, if the respiration mechanism was the same as ours, the lifeforms would breathe out microscopic particles of silicon dioxide (sand) instead of carbon dioxide like we do. Given that sand is usually a solid, it would make sense that it would build up if it isn't continuously flushed out, unlike CO2, which would just disperse in the atmosphere. The "metalic" structure (or some other solid portion) of the iterator could very well be this silicon-based life, which is used because it would theoretically have the ability to heal itself of minor wear and damage over time
It also may be why the rot seems to consume even the metalic parts of 5p. If the metal is alive, then it could very well have nutrients the rot can use.
25:45 ??? the wall can literally be seen emitting steam near the end of cycles?? the only thing that happens in the underhang is silly green sparks, 'the vents' could mean so many things
The times recorded are not exact and may be in front of the relevant information. 3:22 The mettle part of an iterator is mostly mechanical. Any all other processing is handled by neuron fly's. This is also explains why iterators expel so much steam. 3:57 I am shore that mechanical parts of the city like water do travel to the city from the iterator. 6:03 iterator puppets do not contain any processing ability and are completely mechanical. 8:38 What about when the rarefaction cell is removed from Five Pebbles, is it flooded then? 9:21 Does the void fluid its 'self provide unlimited energy? 9:26 !!! While rarefaction cells do affect gravity. The mechanical part of a super structure somewhere else also controls gravity. This is why an iterator can control gravity everywhere. If only the rarefaction cell produce gravity then the iterator gravity would be completely wrong. 11:35 I always thought memory conflux was for genetic research, and houses genetics relevant for iterator biology. 17:33 The silicon number could be the reserved storage number. The total percentage remaining to repair any damage. Note that iterators contain a large amount of silicon chips. Biological processing is a small amount of the iterator. 18:45 !!! We do know what rapid cooling is, see the bottom of some karma gates. 19:44 Neuron fly's are completely biological. 25:35 To communicate with other iterators. 26:04 No the green does not distribute power, or is used for powering iterators. 26:24 Steam will rise, so it will be released at the side of an iterator. 26:30 The green is a discharge. # According to third party, green fire is produced by copper sulfate or boric acid. 27:39 To keep it out of the rain and things easily getting in.
Whoops, rarefaction cells are just boiling water reactors. In all seriousness, I'm guessing that the void fluid the cells use completely disassemble atoms yielding heat, for vaporizing excess/waste water; electrons, explaining the sparks given off by said cells; and protons and neutrons which could be used with excess electrons to synthesize materials, assuming the process is worth the cost for some elements. As for the gravity manipulation, idk. I had a theory that failed when the rivulet campaign was considered. It's likely the result of a separate process that uses void fluid as a catalyst or fuel. We may never know, but we can make educated guesses.
I seem to remember reading something on the Rain World wiki about something similar, something about Void Fluid making an anchor around which an energy flux could be formed.
According to Moon, they do something with creating vacuums through matter deletion, then abusing those vacuums in some way. Boiling water is honestly not far fetched.
@@shambler7030 this is quite literally exactly what we do to harness most methods of energy used in current day. 99% of energy methods are spinning a turbine in some way, and most of those are done by consuming some type of fuel to heat a liquid substance to create pressure that spins said turbine.
I feel like maybe you could have mentioned the Communications Array, although it isn’t a part of iterators. Very informative video, I’ve been looking for good ones to send to people to explain the rainworld lore and this definitely helps! :D
I'd guess the Abstract Convergence Manifold might be used to compress data and store it, given how many calculations iterators go through it would seem like storing some of the results for later use would be quite an important task. Given that it's a region in Looks to the Moon who is in quite a rough shape I think her ACM would be mostly inactive or potentially even non-functional.
I think you forgor the fact moon and pebs are different generations of machine gods and moon likely has a lot of "old tech" thats made redundant or simply much more compact in pebsi. It would be like peeling open a CRT monitor and a modern LCD and comparing them.
In Downpour, which is a separate canon, iterators behave quite different to the base game, being far more expressive of their emotions and generally being more uncertain compared to the base game where iterators especially Five Pebbles seems more knowing and confident, the only outcast is Moon whose situation very much could explain her kindness and caringness. also if I am not mistaken Moon explains what mass rarefaction is but I don't remember what she says :/
My theory for silicon presence is void fluid that is pumped in likely has impurities from the rocks it was dissolving, and rock is made of silicon. Perhaps they used some of it, it can be useful in biological settings and more so in biomechanical ones, but the presence is likely from the void fluid that is taken in
i appreciate any headcanon tangents, outside of ranting with friends i dont think i can hope for better content on this game other then youtube videos, i love this game's world, lore, and characters and dont think the gameplay itself is much more then a masochists play place. Though a movie series on this world could be phenomenal, i dont believe it will ever happen.
24:04 this is actually a really interesting idea. maybe the rot we know and love is unique, and there are other, different kinds of rot in other places. but yeah thats probably just a theory
Another pretty defining point toward an iterator's puppet being it's "core" (at least in mental function) is the fact that Saint's ascension attack can kill the whole iterator by striking the puppet. I think it's very likely if the puppet itself were detached or its wires damaged too much it could cease function in a similar manner. Also, since you mention it around 25:30, it would probably be redundant for the spheres on the side of Pebbles to be some kind of transmission array as there is both the major, long-range array at sky islands which seems to be fashioned for both Pebbles and Moon to use, as well as the fact that there is also a far taller array with similar looking dishes at it's top built into a large tower in his metropolis. Though, in Moons aerie, there's another ball with shorter towers on it's top and the room is very directly labeled "COMMS" suggesting it is in fact a communication tower. It's possible that they're just shorter ranged towers meant to send quick messages to one another or the local group's iterators (possibly why spearmaster can recieve frequent messages from the group in seemingly random areas?). The metropolis tower being built into a structure could also be because it's meant to be sort of like a radio tower, perhaps a hotspot for ancients to message Pebbles or other iterators.
Surprised nobodys pointed out that the Wall is where you find masses and masses of giant "cooling rods". Anyway I kinda disagree with the idea that the water is coming from the Underhang/Vents - its kinda notable for there being a bunch of weird nuclear green electric crap INSTEAD of any rain or other hazard?
If I were to take a guess the excess of Silicon in Moon's system might be from the degradation of her non-biotic computer system polluting the water systems, as silicon is very common in computer parts. and since moon is unable to flush these out or rebuild her damaged structure this silicon has built up inside in excess, causing the 410% shown in the report.
Silicon storage could be used for chip repair. The extreme value is due to silicon not being wasted, but being stored because other storage components are empty.
@@Voreoptera Silicon wouldn't be stored in the water. The more likely scenario is that the silicon is from sediment trapped in the shitwater that was taken in due to damaged filters due to prolonged periods of water cycling.
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A little tad of lore that I found interesting when someone pointed it out.
When it comes to 5P dumping the rot out the window, he didnt just dump only the rot. He threw an entire memory conflux out the window as well as the cooling towers in order to try to save himself, this is shown in how the underwater rot room in garbage wastes has the conflux hole, as well as how 5P is missing one conflux ingame, having 15 instead of 16. Which raises the question.
how the hell can an iterator perform a lobotomy on itself?
God that's incredible environment design, this game is so good
I assume they are semi modular internally, like the test chambers in portal two. So he literally just hit an eject button and dumped it
They seem to be modular components, so it makes sense to me. However I now wonder if this specific memory conflux is the actual ground zero of 5P rot infestation, that would explain the need to eject this one ... If this is true then it didn't work ...
That's really cool
@@lhemnenn4713 but if you compare the memory conflux room that got ejected and the surrounding rooms it doesnt look like it started there. although with that being said the rot could have spread to the conduits before 5p got to detect and contain it, hence the crude dumping of just one memory conflux room.
Theory this entire video is secretly going to be a part of the iterator logs series
edit: FUCK
also play FTL if you haven't already
"edit: FUCK"
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@@maninthedarknesThat game is way too top
@@Zorpalod4226 what
@@maninthedarknes so real so true
I always thought the abstract convergence manifold was possibly the subconscious of an iterator. Or the “personality” they seem to take on. The names of the 5P organisms are: wall mycelia (wall hair thingies), coral neurons (red noodles)and coral stems (the tentacles) according to the files and in game dev tools
The fact it's specifically 'mycelia' also implies that as a semi-organic superstructure, it also has a network of mushroom-fungus tied into it, which parallels mycelium networks being symbiotic with groups of trees - except, given that mushrooms are _questionably_ alive... maybe there's something more in that direction
One note on hydrocarbons this stuff also includes sugars and similar stuff so it can be just for nutrtition purposes and not burned
Ah found one of the fabled smart ones named in the video
You're thinking of carbohydrates, not hydrocarbons. (Easily confused, I know!) The difference is that carbohydrates have oxygen atoms in them, and hydrocarbons only have hydrogen and carbon. Sugars and starches are carbohydrates (average chemical makeup: CHO); methane and petroleum and gasoline and paraffin wax are hydrocarbons (average chemical makeup: CH2-ish). But there are totally organisms that get energy from eating hydrocarbons, though, (weird oil-eating or methane-eating bacteria), so you're still right; it even **especially** makes sense that a bioengineered organism might get energy from hydrocarbons.
It could also just be referring to living tissue, since all biological compounds contain hydrogen and carbon atoms
@@Antal-te6rj Yeah, any of the biological components are presumably hydrocarbon-based. The neuron flies at least should be, since they're edible, assuming slugcats and other animals are also carbon-based (which is a safe bet, unless elements just work differently in this universe... probably not).
The mention of silicon is interesting because it could either support the idea that iterators do a combination of biological and semiconductor-based computation, or it could just be that the water they intake has some sand in it and it's another waste product that builds up.
@@silphv It is theorized that silicon could form carbon-similar chains, meaning iterators could potentially be some kind of hybrid or chimera of silicon and carbon based life forms, but I suppose that's a bit of a stretch
I hate to be this person, but the umbilical _proper_ is actually the super long cord with all the red and blue wires that is tethered to the bottom of the puppet chamber. Moon consistently states that she was "neutered" i.e. her umbilical cord was severed in the collapse, indicated by all the loose short wires sticking out of her head. She's still attached to the large mechanical arm-like thing that's meant to rotate around the chamber, so I think technically that's a puppet (and umbilical) _rig_ .
Yes it's confusing because the wiki and game sometimes refer to the whole setup as an umbilical, but for a lore video I think it's an important distinction to make and I hope you can clarify that
If we look at when Hunter start up Look's to the Moon. We see activations in the superstructure(probably where memory storage is located) the same colour as the slag reset neuron. This mans that the umbilical cord Look's to the Moon is referring to is not just some wires to a puppet. Also Look's to the Moon did state that Hunter(rot) would wake up again.
@@VoreopteraExcuse me, I know this is off topic, but your name is _what_ optera?
@@Da_Rivulet Vore as in vorarephilia and opteral as in Chiroptera.
@@Da_Rivulet I think my comment was sent for review. But the 'optera' is Chiroptera.
@@Voreoptera No, like, the vore part's what I'm focusing on..
Hydrocarbons are kind of the basic building blocks of most biological structures, so if the iterators are biological in nature it'd make sense that they'd have a good amount of them. When we refer to life as "carbon-based" its usually referring to carbohydrate chains, which are basically hydrocarbons with oxygen at the ends.
As an addition to the elemental discussion: Silicon is also often known as "sand" and is probably provided by water and whatever else is being taken in, and likely forms majority of the slag with sulphuric compounds.
Sulphuric compounds are likely provided with water as well; most sea grasses are generally composed mainly of hydrocarbons and sulfates with some phosphates, and I would say that it's more than likely that intake of various marine flora with the seawater is how iterators 'eat'.
Note that the percentages are over 100 suggesting that this could be storage or excess.
the mention of specifically "sulfur" and not sulfates or anything else is interesting, the fact that some sort of sulfur molds(the organism or a shape for casting?) were mentioned in iterator logs hints that sulfur has some specific properties in rainworld, as well as it might be somehow the secreted form of sulfur-contained mass in the intake, that somehow ends up as elemental sulfur out of anything
I assumed the Abstract Convergence Manifold was the iterator's consciousness/subconsciousness
Same actually
@sirpootsman1048 the room really reminds me of neutrino detectors, where they need giant empty spaces filled with water and nothing else to detect them. so with that I think It could be something similiar, but obviously used for some sort of computing process, and with different particles as rain world probably has different rules of physics compared to us.
alternative theory: mass gathering place for all neurons in structure, perhaps for some obscure computing process
Man, I'm so happy there's more people besides me who are interested in the Iterator technical details! I had an alternate proposal in my head about the Recursive Transform Array(I don't mean to upstage you).
I was thinking that the name "Recursive Transform Array" could also refer to a type of mathematical operation called a transform. They transform one function f(x) of one set of inputs into another function F(s) of another set of inputs, almost like rephrasing a sentence in different terms. For example, a Fourier Transform can convert a waveform (e.g.: pressure defined over time) into its component frequencies and how "loud" these frequencies are; expressing something defined as a function of time f(t) into something as a function of frequencies, F(s). My idea was that Recursive Transform Array might take the looping, recursive, iterated computations of the Iterator and convert them into concrete, singular thoughts. This might also fit with how similar RTA and Abstract Convergence Manifold are, what with the "electrical equipment" featured in both, as well as the apparent correlation in their location between Pebbles' and Moon's structure.
This is just an idea in my head, and I'd be glad to hear any counter-evidence or counter-arguments.
It was less of a "thing" back in 2017, but "transform", in the sense of a matrix multiplication, is what underlies neural network "AI" stuff, quite relevant today. "Arrays" of which are referred to as "transformers". Which is kind of annoying as a "transformer" is already a noun, the electrical component; but I suppose we can have multiple, whatever.
honestly kind of a stretch considering they make the same noise as transformer coils irl and also behave the same way, just glowing blue to be more sci fi esque and resembling of mosquito lights, which electrocute you when you touch them just like they do in real life.
This is a process that does occur in an imitator. It does not occur in recursive transform array. Mainly used for high accuracy neural processing.
18:27 In regards to "rapid cooling" emergency regulation, it's description in the text indicates to me that it's similar in function to a modern nuclear reactor's Emergency Core Cooling System (ECCS) that's used to shut down a reactor so it doesn't end up having a meltdown.
Rapid cooling is technology seen in the karma gate.
@@Voreoptera And also rapid warming, for some reasing
Do also note that rapid heating and cooling is really terrible for the longevity of mechanical components of basically any kind. So, it does make sense that it's a last ditch attempt and you will NEED emergency maintenance afterwards.
i love for loops, i love iterating over an array
tamkish jumpscare 😮
boo!
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Sick programming refernce
@@silphv i am the mr programming hello thats me, programming is actually tamkish reference
17:03 like with most things in chemistry, things that will kill you instantly become vital if reacted with one or two other things(ex: explosive metal and caustic gas react to form table salt) so just because you shoudlnt rub elemental sulfur on your skin doesnt make it non vital for some functions in your body.
basically most chemicals are bad for you if theyre at the wrong level, not just sulfur.
that being said we have no idea if life in RW is anywhere close in similarity to life on earth, so biochemical processes could be completely different.
18:37 imo rapid cooling could be an endothermic chemical reaction that cools things down, but i would assume creates toxic byproducts(slag)
Minor typos in your first paragraph made me confused for a sec, thought you might wanna be aware of them
Edit: he fixed them or I read it wrong in the first place heh
Yeah that "rapid cooling" reminds me of the Emergency Core Cooling System that modern nuclear reactors have to prevent meltdowns.
I'm pretty sure slag is just the ancient's fancy biomechanical term for the waste products produced by the biological processing strata.
In other words, iterators are constantly shitting and pissing and crying when they have to do work.
20:52 these guys are actually called wall mycelium so it may be a type of fungus or smth, not very important just food for thought ( they are called that in the code)
I don’t think they’re a fungus, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Neuron Flies interacting with them (like they do with the things at 21:30), so they’re supposed to be there, and having something be a fungus as opposed to… an… animal? What exactly would you consider these things? Anyways, fungus feed on other organisms which doesn’t really make sense… or actually maybe it does, them being a fungus taking nutrients from whatever it’s sending the signals to, that actually makes sense as that’d be a pretty good way to keep it nourished.
Nevermind I now think it is a fungus, but a fungus that’s supposed to be there.
9:13 Rarefaction is actually explained by Moon in the Pipeyard Pearl:
"The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction. Of course this undertaking required extremely pure samples to properly craft rarefaction cells."
Now, this is just my theory, but I think rarefaction cells use Void Fluid to convert mass (in case of Iterators, probably water) directly into energy. To understand how much energy this will create: 1 cubic meter of water (264 gallons for Americans out there) would be enough to power our whole current civilization for almost a year.
And think about how many cubic meters of water they consume in a second
The Memory Conflux rooms are labeled as being “Labs” in game so I always assumed they were for doing experiments. Part of 5P’s “LAB” rooms are inside of Unfortunate Development, which implies that’s where his Rot started.
If going by the theory that the memory conflux is a bunch of testing chambers, the red grids the spiders are making could be the physical version of all the simulations that the iterators are said to run. Also the silicon mentioned in the broadcast is most likely just another part of the slag cloggage the same as the sulfur.
Btw 5P mentions the player to use the hole which leads to the wall instead of general bus system, mentioning he doesnt like "his memory arrays being scrached"
Which is likely be the red webs made by these little spiders
I've always imagined the red grids are the processing strata.
Slag, in common parlance, is a silica-based glass used in metal refining, especially smelting and welding. Glasses can also be made from sulfur-based compounds (chalcogenide glasses). The temperatures required to melt these are rather incompatible with general iterator operation (for sure, nothing is glowing hot, or melting like lava), so it's probably not that directly, but within the space of "[the author]'s misusing terms to paint a picture and you just have to figure out what it means in-universe", it'll be something along these lines.
Silica, and sulfides, are hardly soluble in water, but given enough temperature, pressure and time, they can be transported, and form crystalline deposits (hydrothermal veins) in the earth. These wouldn't be called "slag", but perhaps the Ancients used the term as shorthand for this (fulfilling the interpretation of meaning per above). Perhaps a slurry could also be transported, perhaps in extreme cases (analogous to when one has cloudy urine, or stones), but not without some becoming cemented to the pipe walls and such (hence analogizing with arterial plaques, and Moon literally having a "[H]eart attack").
Babe, wake up. Now Das…wait…where are you?
There’s a note here! Could it be her?
“If you’re reading this, this is not the first time you’ve read this. Go to the doctor and get treated, because I don’t know what’s happening to you! To me! Please! I don’t know how long this has been going on for, and I don’t know how long I’ll last.”
Huh, I guess I will…
What was I doing? Oh! A new Daszombes vid dropped, I guess I’ll tell the ol’ missus.
Hey babe, new Das…wait…
Dude just act normal
The memory conflux is most likely just that, a place where the memory of the Iterators goes and the red grid is where the memory is stored.
Also im pretty sure that there are more sections of an Iterator then we have seen, perhaps there is a section that make all the Inspectors, overseirs or neuron flies, surely they have to come from some where.
That’s what I thought aswell, it seemed obvious that this is what the memory conflux is, and it also makes sense that most of the rooms aren’t traversable to us, only these certain rooms, it would make sense that most processing rooms and other dingle-dangle areas are just closed off by both iterators for their own reasons.
I thought memory conflux is used for genetic processing.
YES! why havent anyone said this before? we havent been exploring the whole iterator, probably just the middle. There is probably so many other things in there we just dont know about.
For the Sulfur and Silicon in Moon's systems, it's likely with her facilities taking such a shock and such damage, she took in mass amounts of unfiltered water which contained Sulfur and Silicone, the unhealthy components would be like.... Well, having those same things in her blood! She'd essentially be having blood clots from material build up in her systems, like, all sorts of sand and soot is presumably where the silicon is coming from. And Sulfur is likely present in the ground water. So when she was being starved of water, her systems took major damage, and the next cycle she was able to get water, her systems were too damaged to properly filter it all and she took in all sorts of unwanted poisons from the ground water, which only messed up her systems even more.
To better understand what exactly would happen; many houses without a water filter will find their pipes both corroding and becoming caked with sediment, like Calcite, which will cause even more damage to the pipes over time and fuck with water pressure, as well as making the home owner unknowingly use water that is way too high in chemicals and minerals. This is essentially whats happened to Moon.
Makes it more terrifying on what happened to her
Ugh god, no wonder her temporary crashes looked/sounded so painful. Imagine passing an untold amount of blood clots through every single system of your body at once - your heart and brain especially - continuously, for *days...* 😖
It would explain why the failure took a while. If the slag was only building up from thermal energy then Look's to the Moon would of been dead within a few cycles. I would like a more clear explanation on the process of slag build-up. Also iterators unlike hibernation chambers. Have many backups and redundancies. So the recovery was when every everything was redirected to systems that were already damaged. Normally this would go unnoticed in an iterator.
@@Voreoptera Sheer amount of processing strata in the Iterator's body requires a lot of water. This metabolic process also produces a large amount of problematic waste (slag) which needs to be dumped. The overclocking of components or the undersupply of water can result in excess slag buildup, which severely hurts the iterator especially the processing strata as they essentially fester in their own shit.
i can't wait to the watcher come out and daszombes will have to reconsider all info about iterators
some notes on the file names:
everything iterator related in dev tools falls under a category called CoralBrain, my guess is that conceptually iterator internals were supposed to be more coral reef-like but verged away from that later on
20:13 - these red guys are just called CoralNeurons in the files
20:37 - these are referred to as CoralCircuits. the white spider guys never get a name :(
20:51 - these whisker things are called WallMycelia in the files
21:31 - these are called CoralStems, theres also a fancy variation on them called CoralStemsWithNeurons that has one of the red neuron guys attached to it
there's also an effect sometimes seen in the background of iterator rooms (it looks like blue wavy patterns) called DeepProcessing
The rot also has some dev-tools file-name funkiness. its almost exclusively called "corruption" in the game. there's Corruption, CorruptionTube, and CorruptionDarkness. the only rot related thing that isn't called corruption are proto long legs, which are given the very unfortunate name of "StuckDaddy"
last note is that in the level editor, the sticks coming off of the wall are referred to as "cooling rods"
The wall things being called “cooling rods” suggests to me that water is passed through them after taking heat from the processors, so they are like the cooling towers at a power plant. It could be that the remaining water picks up waste chemicals on a second circulation of the processors to dump it from the vents.
4:18 Anythin' but the metric system /j
The Recursive Transform Array is likely where a lot of power being supplied to the structure is shifted and routed. Transformers are used to alter the voltage in a circuit going through one port and out the other, either by increasing or decreasing their value using electromagnetism and inductors. This is to ensure that the right amount of power is going to the right loads in a circuit.
The voltage coming in through transmission lines is far too much for a traditional residence, for example, so a transformer is used to reduce that voltage to a much smaller amount, that way the electrical components in the house won't overheat or break. Those green boxes you see in the suburbs are examples of these, which typically send individual power lines to several houses in the vicinity.
Oh boy, half an hour of iterator lore at an 4 am My prayers have been answered
4:41
though i thought moon said her umbilical was severed at some point despite keeping the robotic arm thingamajig attached? i thought that meant the umbilical were the wires attached to the puppet and the arm
5:56
given the dream you get after five pebbles, i assume some of the newer iterator models have lit up eyes as well, since his were yellow in that.
8:12
though the heart's only in moon and was most likely replaced by a linear power rail in the newer ones, since that one pearl given to moon says only newer ones have linear power rails, pebbles not having a heart, and both storing a rarefaction cell.
9:15
if it counts, a pipeyard pearl states "The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction.".
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the silicon may just be for repair of the electrical bits. i would guess that repair of that is supposed to be done manually by the ancients given there's not much biological stuff in the recursive transform arrays. it might just be building up because there's no way for it to be used without people to manually repair, though again just guessing. unsure how it's obtained.
Iterators, like igloo, not eye. 15 social credits have been deducted from your honorary balance with the biomechanical collective.
In lieu of this mistake I am obligated to inform you that yes, the background of the puppet chamber is indeed off to the left by one tile, and was not properly centered within the room.
There's one more bit of information about the Rot we can infer - in the Chimney Canopy pearl that seems to describe the method Pebbles attempted to use for self-destruction, it's mentioned that the stuff being mutated is "standard plastic neural tissue". If we assume these are the instructions that Pebbles acted on, we can likely assume that the Rot is mutated neural tissue specifically.
(As a headcanon, I'd also assume that the Rot is specifically a mutant relative of *those ubiquitous blue-black little thin whisker-tendril thingies* that cover the interior walls. The whiskers are tendril-shaped, black with blue bulbs, sessile but show some kind of clearly active twitching which implies some ability to flex under their own power, and grow out from the walls everywhere; the proto-Rot forms big, chunky, gross tendrils, is the same kind of black-with-blue-bulbs color, is initially sessile but clearly also has some ability to flex under its own power (and eventually gains the ability to move independently), and also starts out forming big mats that cling to the walls. And the tendrils do seem to have some role in the Iterator's brain function, interfacing with neuron flies and the like, so they could easily be little offshoot nerve-hypha-things from some underlying mycelial mat of brainstuff made from the same cells; it's quite plausible that they indeed come from the cell line of "standard plastic neural tissue".)
17:28 it’s for moons giant dump truck 😎
Good lird
I agree with this statement.
We can't technically prove whether or not the ancients gave her an even more well endowed version of her puppet somewhere in her can,
This is now my new headcanon
HELL YEAH
@@Unoriginal____Starwalker true, but also have you considered that you may be looking at it but due to the pixel art style you just can’t see it
The lymphatic conduit systems are likely literally just a one to one with your actual lymph mode system. there are probably cleaning microbes all inside the iterator, that are designed to reproduce at the same rate that they get flushed away by the lympatic system, they likely produce sulfer as a waste product and potentially they produce silicone as part of their semi artifical biological structure. As other people have pointed out , hydrocarbons are literally the back bone of almost every biological compound.
Learned a new word today: Greebling. Thanks, Daszombes.
The vents probably also take part in venting steam from an iterator as stated but at the end of a cycle all the cylinder like things on the wall are also seen venting steam so it's not just the vents
I’m pretty sure that when i was learning about busses in a computer technology class in college, the professor also either described them as like the spinal cord or brain stem
Watching this in the middle of making a iterator cosplay >:]
That's actually cool as hell, if you post it somewhere it'd be awesome to see it
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The entire can or the puppet?
@@troutleap940new cosplay idea- giant metal rectangle
@@leaflyndrawsstuff moon cosplay needs a working rain siren
based off Moon's dialogue in Riv when you show her the rarefaction cell, i think iterators definietely have multiple "the heart" equivalents
"In the wake of my... accident... all of my rarefaction cells were dislodged on impact and washed away in the flood waters."
21:31 okay so when I was researching for my fanfic, what I found to be closest to these tentacle things was called a Myelin Sheath. In an organism, myelin is a type of lipid that protects nerve cell axons, and the shape of the axon with the myelin sheath surrounding it looks almost exactly like these guys. Not sure why iterators need a nervous system, but these look like the main components of that. (And the red things at 20:15 are probably smaller/minor versions of these, like a tree branch vs. a larger tree limb)
my idea is that the big ones attached to walls are stationary and exchange information in their one designated area while the red ones do the same thing but can move around the structure to accommodate whatever the iterator is trying to do at the time. then again I'm not sure if I've ever seen the neuron flies interacting with them before
I think they're the stuff that gives out information, and the red stuff and the wall mycelium (hair things) is the stuff that TAKES IN information
Few notes regarding this video!
1. There's a probability that the umbilical of the iterator is more likely the cables/wires that connect its puppet to and through the arm, rather than the arm itself! Moon mentions being neutered (her umbilical being severed) despite still being connected with her arm even though it's understandably weaker, but that's probably because it simply has no power source, as it's capable of lifting Moon again once her heart gets resusciated. Also we can actually see the severed cables going from her back and not leading to the arm, unlike how it is with iterators in a better state.
2. I wanted to notice that aside from construction beams, the Legs/Struts also contain something that looks like huge cables, tubes or otherwise communication nodes. I have no idea what their purpose might be, and for a second I might've thought that Shoreline is full of those weird snake thingies because it's said tubes falling out of her legs and being washed out nearby when her structure collapsed. But they do not fit the visuals of how those tubes look like. They might still be some other sort of Leg related machinery, but they're probably not what we see in the game - WHICH I might have a suspicion are water draining pipes that supply iterators with (relatively) clean water from the surface or the aquifers below it.
3. I'm not very sure about Iterators being just boxes of biomass as in just straight up flesh mounds. Surely, I do believe there is a lot of biomass in them, but it's probably closer to being modular arrays of purposed organisms with synthetic shells, sort of like human organs are composed of cells which in turn are composed of other... elements. Sorry, I am not a biologist by any means, lmao. But regardless, from what we're seeing it's most likely that a lot of the biomass in iterators is just creatures shaped like computer parts, or semi-synthetic growths that attach to those parts, like the whiskers or the tentacle thingies. The part of Moon's dialogue with Chimney pearl supports that since she mentions scrambling "standard plastic neural tissue", suggesting that their organs, or spare samples within their facilities, are in fact AT LEAST partially synthetic.
Overall though, very good vid!
2 Water moves up the legs to the iterator for filtering or turned to steam.
3 There is no biology in the walls. However the walls do contain biological matter being moved, circuits, silicon chips, water and other things.
Plastic in this case most likely refers to plasticity, which is basically just the ability to stretch and bend, and not plastic like plastic bags
4:46 hmm, interesting, i was under the impression that the chord that connects to the ground of the puppet room and the wires of the iterator's heads (or backs seemingly with 5p and with the only art we have for srs) was the umbilical and thought that the arm was so they can control and orient themselves in their environment. the reason that i thought this is because this chord is completely absent from lttm post collapse, and in splash art and such, the wires that would be attaching it to her head are bent and warped at the ends, showing that they have been severed, or "cut" as she refers to it when given an overseer eye.
in addition to this, moons arm does not appear to be cut in anyway and she appears to be able to move it to some extent post rivulet, however its anchor point tethering it to the wall never moves from that position again. i theorise that the reason moon couldn't move her arm post-collapse-pre-rivulet was because it was weak due to damages, in addition to having a lack of power, which was then lifted with the installation of 5ps rarefaction cell.
I mean... I think you're forgetting this is meant to calculate stuff
so... arrays is probably in the sense of matrices, using them in programming to calculate complex transformations (like, math transformations, you can apply one to a function to make a process)
same with "Linear systems", a branch of math, that is related to matrices so it makes more sense to me.
Also, those red things seem to have a modular system, a specific shape is formed, and then pasted together and maintained by those spiders, so it may be that it's a "memory" in the sense that we are making a circuit that contains a "log" or "result" of a simulation that is run elsewhere and then stored there, making a circuit with a specific shape to remember the results of that experiment, and if it's needed you can delete that experiment and start a new one by simply making a new circuit (reseting the shapes) idk, it seems like the iterators were made with simulations made in mind, and if you wanna have a lot of simulations running at parallel you would need to make a model that runs that set of instructions, maybe that's why they are designed thay way.
I agree with this. I’ve always preferred the interpretation that the Memory Conflux is somewhat adjacent to RAM or short-term memory, where a specific calculation or thought is being constructed. That’s why Pebbles is so incensed about them specifically when you travel through them to get to his chamber (presumably shattering the red structures); you are literally derailing his train of thought, and he’s annoyed about it.
It's interesting to note that when we turn Moon's heart back on, it forms what looks like an accretion disc, and the rarefaction cell itself seems to take in matter and convert it to energy somehow.
It's basically a singularity generator. Except instead of a tiny black hole it's a puddle of ultra acid.
Loved the video, everything is really good explained! Regarding the names of the things (20:07), some time ago I made some iterator rooms and I remember the name of the things from devTools, so let's go (correct me if I mess up):
· Weird red dudes: Coral Neuron. It probably absorbs nutrients from the water and information from the neurons.
· Funky little white spider dudes: I don't know the name of them but they automatically spawn with the Coral Circuit (which, when broken, is repaired by them). The other sphere thingies that appear to be there too are the hooks, or brackets to sustain the Coral Circuit to prevent it from completely breaking I suppose.
· Little whiskers: Wall Mycelia, I think it's their way to recollect data from the neurons and pass it through other zones of their system.
· Big tentacles: Coral Stems. I guess it just gives new data to the neurons that connect to it? I don't know.
· Greenish electricity in the legs: Green Sparks. They appear to be, as you well said, electricity or static as they also appear to react violently when rain begins.
Fun fact: in that one room (C09) in Garbage Wastes where is the pearl, and the longlegs, if you submerge you can see what appears to be a giant waste pipe that is connected to Pebbles because they tried to get rid of the rot by dumping it in the Garbage Wastes so I guess what we see in C09, below the greenish water, is a giant residual pipe connected to Pebbles to trash the infected water and that's why the rot appears in the Garbage Wastes in the first place.
If I recall right, five pebbles will tell you about it if you bring pearls to him. His dialog is slightly different byt in regards to void fluid, he goes into more detail than moon.
Need people to make separate videos for all pearl readings lol. I might go do it myself if one doesn't come out soon enough
Doesnt he say something about void fluid not being antimatter?
@@protogentau9028 I feel like that's common sense but yeah I recall that too
@@protogentau9028yeah, he said that the creators initially compared void fluid to antimatter, but while it makes sense it's apparently completely wrong ...
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Slag is comprised of metal oxides and silicon dioxide. Obviously the word silicon in that sentence holds meaning; the amount of silicon in Moon may be because of slag buildup
I might be wrong cause i saw this in a post but i’m pretty sure the “umbilical” isn’t the robot arm. moon says hers was cut but she still has the arm. What she IS lacking in compared to pebbles is these connecting cables and wires. Her arm later proves to have function and is very much connected to her. It can’t be the umbilical then. Idk
Also the arm makes.. less sense as an umbilical. Moon says she lost connection to something because the “umbilical was cut” which makes sense when you think about REAL umbilical cords. The arm allows her to move, but the cords provide her necessary functions and information
I haven’t slept for two days and as soon as I start to fall asleep this shows up, and you can guess what I did after
Based on appearance alone, it seems like the white tentacle things at 21:31 are related to the secondary cord connected to the iterator puppets? Looking at the last frame of Rivulets ending cutscene, the signal being transferred to Pebbles appears VERY similar to what these things look like.
So perchance they’re linked to said similar cord attached to the puppet? That’s how the neurons transfer data throughout the building and to the puppet? Since they’re seen approaching these things throughout the structure
That’s my theory anyway
They take clear inspiration from the nerves in Earth biology - long, tubular structures with flared interfaces, with segmented sheaths.
The umbilical attached to the puppet is a similar design because it is the same type of cable.
It would make sense for the heart to be flooded, if that is wehre all the power is generated, that implies it probably gets VERY hot, and needs extreme cooling.
I CAN wait for the watcher.
hey i think you missed the T on can't
@@bonna4829 that's on purpose.
yeah i can wait
I CAN'T wait for silksong
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real glad i got to hear about iterator balls in this video
I haven’t finished the video. What the FUCK am I about to hear.
you see @@Midnightlunar10 when two iterators love each other very very much.....
FOr the Recursive Transform Arrays, I like to think of it as the capillaries, where the lienar power rail transfers the massive quantities of power out from the heart, the RTA power it down (thats what transformers do) and move it to where it needs to be. Also, it is stated that mass rarefaction cells are the backup power source, but it seems like they arent designed to be put in the heart of moon (it dissolves and overheats), implying that maybe there were ultramass rarefaction cells that provided primary power. We know that void fluid was essential for their construction, so I assume their primary powersource was still based on it.
Maybe the heart just needed void fluid as a catalyst, and the mass rarefaction cells functioned in a similar way just at a smaller scale. Void Fluid probably operates in all sorts of weird ways so there's no way to ultimately know
So, during the transform array segment, you mention that might be their power system. Doesn't Moon basically state that Iterators were powered by Void Fluid before the mass ascension?
Well, through the mass rarefraction cells yes. Her lines on the vortex bombs states they are broken ones, and she says they have a bit of void fluid.
Void fluid was used to power everything before they went away too, it wasn't just the cells I worded that wrong. It's what made their civilization so advanced, as they got nearly limitless power from it, theoretically.
What I think Das meant was its where power is stored and/or transmitted to the rest of the Iterator
I always thought the puppet the iterators used is essentially the makeup they use to give the ancients something to look at.
So like, i just imagine the cans to have a little finger puppet they wiggle around.
My theory is that the white tentacles transport info from the main iterator to the neuron flies or vise versa
I suspect this is the fast data transfer method. Look's to the Monk clearly does not need this, showing that it can be done wirelessly.
21:52 Im surprised he didnt meantion how these look similar to the cord on the Iterator umbilicals
What's heartbreaking is, in a way, Pebbles succeeded. The rot *is* a self-destruction. It's just not instantaneous. It's slow. Slowly infecting him and taking him over. And by the time he is in shambles, he doesn't *want* to circumvent the taboo anymore.
And I think that is the most heartbreaking thing about his story.
we need a 2nd part but after das has read all the comments from the iterator biologists
Tiny correction: The umbilical is the combination of the head cables and the larger myelinated cable that they all lead into, and not the support arm (which is never canonically named). Moon refers to her umbilical as being cut.
Additionally, when Suns refers to puppets not having expressions (I’m paraphrasing + can’t find the right words), they’re referring to the lack of a mouth. Moon hows very clearly in multiple ingame artworks that puppets’ eyelids are capable of emoting.
The red fronds are also referred to in Devtools/the files/code/etc as nerves, thus their presence in the lymphatic system is most likely meant for controlling any sort of moving part and for having some form of sensation (Edit: Now that I think about it, you were probably referring to the blue-ish Sky Islands plants present in the Rot, and I got confused because those weren’t onscreen. I’d imagine those are a result of the extensive damage to the can allowing seeds to blow in - but that’s just speculation based on the fact that there’s a massive wound in the can that can be seen from one of the Primary Cortex rooms. I’m mostly rambling about Iterator stuff *as* I watch this video, so if anything ends up being explored later on that contradicts my ramble/criticisms I’m going to eat my shorts)
Yeah, the expressions are a bit confusing because the puppets do blink in-game, but the official artworks are a bit more iffy about that
@@pex_20 Ehhhh, Moon has pretty clear expressions
I'm pretty sure moon in her stolen enlightenment picture isn't actually emoting anything. It's just angles and shadows used to make her static face look 'pained'.
@@Nilon241 Refer to Rivulet’s end select art
@@matchedpowerofthesun yeah you're actually right now that I looked at the Rivulet ending screen.
I don't think any processing is done in the memory conflux, I think its just memory, like a hard drive or ram
For silicon, maybe some of the iterator structures resemble Glass Sponges anatomically. That, and silicon is currently used for experimental long-term data storage.
22:48 irl slime molds are single celled and not communal
It could be possible that the memory conflux is a form of information storage using the same tech the pearls use, the little spiders on the red mesh could be building or reforming the mesh to store more info or reading it of the mesh, also it could be possible that the reason for the water in the "heart" of LTTM is that the water is being heated to make steam and make energy using turbines or something similar, but the probabillity of that is small as we see that LTTM is powered before there is water in the rarefaction cell chamber and FP is running without any water with his cell (also pebbles's cell does not have the shell of the cell melt into void fluid so maybe then its running on low power as emergency power and the reason for LTTM's cell melts is because its being used in place of the main power sorce and the inicial startup of the cell is enough to get the water going)
Also loved the video!!!
I can imagine that the "Rapid Cooling" protocol caused Moon's collapse... as in, legs give out to dump the whole can into the massive amount of water beneath to prevent whatever heat damage would cause that's worse than the can being flooded.
22:14 The rot was not the intended outcome of the experiment, actually. The way Pebbles did it, I think shown by bringing the golden pearl in Chimney Canopy to Moon, was by essentially scrambling the DNA of some unknown base organism repeatedly until he eventually got a resulting organism capable of removing the self destruction taboo _and nothing else._ This is, of course, a very slow process, unless you run loads of it at once, which is what Pebbles did, which both required intense concentration to constantly manage all the processes, and a lot of water for cooling, which Pebbles took all of Moon’s water for. After running this process for a while, Moon got desperate and used a forced broadcast on him to tell him to stop (I forget which colored pearl this is in, it’s in one of them), which presumably broke Pebbles concentration on his process while the DNA scrambling had rot created, which managed to escape and infect him (Pebbles replied to the forced broadcast with something like “You have ruined everything”).
23:03 I’ve always assumed that the cyst’s color was an indicator of health, the rot in Pebbles is all blue and healthy, the MLLs are a more purple color, and are even larger than normal DLLs, DLLs are the basic healthy blue, and BLLs are losing their color as they die (they’re smaller and deaf). Color based on what they eat might explain why there are blue BLLs inside of The Rot (by that I mean Rivulet Pebbles), though, and they just get smaller and eventually lose their hearing as they age (I imagine MLLs would basically be an extra even healthier period of time tacked on before the start of DLL lifespan)
25:30 Maybe it was built before the city? Then again, I don’t know why wouldn’t it just be plopped randomly on the top instead of the side.
Rarefaction Cells *are* explained in game! Partially. The implication seems to be creating and abusing vacuums through matter deletion. So converting matter to energy possibly has something to do with it.
8:53 Explanation of Mass Rarefaction from the Purple Pearl in Pipeyard:
“The early ages of the Void Fluid revolution were an explosive period of innovation and industry. By creating a vacuum of empty space, and inducing a flux in the energy fields around the singular null point you've created, you can cause a fuel mass of base elements to decompose into energy. This process is called mass rarefaction.
Of course this undertaking required extremely pure samples to properly craft rarefaction cells. Older mines on the surface became abandoned once underground construction became much easier. Though, most nearby systems were connected anyways, regardless of age or depth. Void Fluid isn't exactly easy to purify, or even properly contain.”
We can presume that the Mass Rarefaction Cell is a part of this process, though it’s hard to assume to what extent this is the case.
About the Recursive Transform Arrays at 12:30 . The first thing that comes to mind is irl transformers we use in electrical engineering to transform the electrical current or voltage, like from AC to DC for example. But who knows.
16:48 🤓well technically Hydrocarbons also includes carbohydrates like sugar for example glucose
uh oh he forgor that moon said the rarefaction cells are meant for backup power and that iterators were very likely hooked up to power grids and power plants because the rarefaction cells were meant to be used when said systems were under maintenance.
Something I theorize about the rot is that it was something before the Iterators were ever created. Something that unlucky creatures would occasionally develop for one reason or another. After the Ancients discovered Void Fluid, they realized that the Rot disappeared faster than other creatures (something I believe the Hunter Ascension ending hints at), and used the fluid as a sort of cure, basically ending rot as a whole. But it was still something that existed during the time of the Ancients, so the Iterators are aware of it. I also think Rot is more likely to happen to creatures with modified genomes, like Pebbles did to himself and Hunter, which makes me think that NSH made a fatal error while making Hunter which caused rot and was unable to help him, or create a new messenger. Basically, I think it was Cancer, but more rare, and became more common when modified organisms became commonplace, and the only real solution was to use Void to kill it
You forgot to mention the precipice but that could be something exclusive for Moon and Pebbles due to their close proximity. Maybe a bridge or rail used by the ancients or for some form of cargo to transport between cities? I wonder why the ancients opted to build these two superstructures so close together.
Note: the sensors on the walls can be seen in undergrowth. Idk what this means but it's cool I guess
Since 5P has collapsed at that time, they could have become an invasive species and thrived in Undergrowth because of the nutrient rich water reserves of the drainage pipes.
Iterator structures are weeeeird. I do have an idea for the weird thing the little white spiders are working on though! The sound effect for crashing through them calls them coral. And on the topic of sounds giving names to stuff, those sparks that shoot of an iterator puppet's halo make a sound called 'mycelia spark' for some reason.
When it comes to the silicon, my guess would be some form of silicon based life, in which case, if the respiration mechanism was the same as ours, the lifeforms would breathe out microscopic particles of silicon dioxide (sand) instead of carbon dioxide like we do. Given that sand is usually a solid, it would make sense that it would build up if it isn't continuously flushed out, unlike CO2, which would just disperse in the atmosphere.
The "metalic" structure (or some other solid portion) of the iterator could very well be this silicon-based life, which is used because it would theoretically have the ability to heal itself of minor wear and damage over time
It also may be why the rot seems to consume even the metalic parts of 5p. If the metal is alive, then it could very well have nutrients the rot can use.
Mr Rainworld is feeding us guys
25:45 ??? the wall can literally be seen emitting steam near the end of cycles?? the only thing that happens in the underhang is silly green sparks, 'the vents' could mean so many things
The times recorded are not exact and may be in front of the relevant information.
3:22 The mettle part of an iterator is mostly mechanical. Any all other processing is handled by neuron fly's. This is also explains why iterators expel so much steam.
3:57 I am shore that mechanical parts of the city like water do travel to the city from the iterator.
6:03 iterator puppets do not contain any processing ability and are completely mechanical.
8:38 What about when the rarefaction cell is removed from Five Pebbles, is it flooded then?
9:21 Does the void fluid its 'self provide unlimited energy?
9:26 !!! While rarefaction cells do affect gravity. The mechanical part of a super structure somewhere else also controls gravity.
This is why an iterator can control gravity everywhere. If only the rarefaction cell produce gravity then the iterator gravity would be completely wrong.
11:35 I always thought memory conflux was for genetic research, and houses genetics relevant for iterator biology.
17:33 The silicon number could be the reserved storage number. The total percentage remaining to repair any damage.
Note that iterators contain a large amount of silicon chips. Biological processing is a small amount of the iterator.
18:45 !!! We do know what rapid cooling is, see the bottom of some karma gates.
19:44 Neuron fly's are completely biological.
25:35 To communicate with other iterators.
26:04 No the green does not distribute power, or is used for powering iterators.
26:24 Steam will rise, so it will be released at the side of an iterator.
26:30 The green is a discharge. # According to third party, green fire is produced by copper sulfate or boric acid.
27:39 To keep it out of the rain and things easily getting in.
oh my lord a new rainworld lore video.
In the files, the red things, and those long white/red thingies (WHICH LOOK ALOT LIKE VOID WORMS) are called Coral
How tf did I miss this video?
Whoops, rarefaction cells are just boiling water reactors.
In all seriousness, I'm guessing that the void fluid the cells use completely disassemble atoms yielding heat, for vaporizing excess/waste water; electrons, explaining the sparks given off by said cells; and protons and neutrons which could be used with excess electrons to synthesize materials, assuming the process is worth the cost for some elements.
As for the gravity manipulation, idk. I had a theory that failed when the rivulet campaign was considered. It's likely the result of a separate process that uses void fluid as a catalyst or fuel.
We may never know, but we can make educated guesses.
I seem to remember reading something on the Rain World wiki about something similar, something about Void Fluid making an anchor around which an energy flux could be formed.
Ancients finding out how to disintegrate atoms simply to use it to boil water.
@@shambler7030 Literally what we do to the Uranium
According to Moon, they do something with creating vacuums through matter deletion, then abusing those vacuums in some way. Boiling water is honestly not far fetched.
@@shambler7030 this is quite literally exactly what we do to harness most methods of energy used in current day. 99% of energy methods are spinning a turbine in some way, and most of those are done by consuming some type of fuel to heat a liquid substance to create pressure that spins said turbine.
Time to find out if Daszombes has finally learned how to pronounce Iterator
Edit: Nope
the "whiskers" as you named them, are called wall mycelia in the files
Eye-terator
I feel like maybe you could have mentioned the Communications Array, although it isn’t a part of iterators.
Very informative video, I’ve been looking for good ones to send to people to explain the rainworld lore and this definitely helps! :D
Daszombes said eyetertater
I'd guess the Abstract Convergence Manifold might be used to compress data and store it, given how many calculations iterators go through it would seem like storing some of the results for later use would be quite an important task. Given that it's a region in Looks to the Moon who is in quite a rough shape I think her ACM would be mostly inactive or potentially even non-functional.
I think you forgor the fact moon and pebs are different generations of machine gods and moon likely has a lot of "old tech" thats made redundant or simply much more compact in pebsi. It would be like peeling open a CRT monitor and a modern LCD and comparing them.
In Downpour, which is a separate canon, iterators behave quite different to the base game, being far more expressive of their emotions and generally being more uncertain compared to the base game where iterators especially Five Pebbles seems more knowing and confident, the only outcast is Moon whose situation very much could explain her kindness and caringness.
also if I am not mistaken Moon explains what mass rarefaction is but I don't remember what she says :/
Thank you for this information lord daszombes
My theory for silicon presence is void fluid that is pumped in likely has impurities from the rocks it was dissolving, and rock is made of silicon. Perhaps they used some of it, it can be useful in biological settings and more so in biomechanical ones, but the presence is likely from the void fluid that is taken in
i appreciate any headcanon tangents, outside of ranting with friends i dont think i can hope for better content on this game other then youtube videos, i love this game's world, lore, and characters and dont think the gameplay itself is much more then a masochists play place. Though a movie series on this world could be phenomenal, i dont believe it will ever happen.
was expecting nekopara jumpscare the entire video
please help
The long red strand things in the Iterators are referred to as Red Coral Neurons... why? Don't know, but that info came from the Wiki.
20:22 to me they look like Axons of a Neuron, axons are neural structure that make electrical signals travel faster through neurons
21:34 … axons..
24:04 this is actually a really interesting idea. maybe the rot we know and love is unique, and there are other, different kinds of rot in other places. but yeah thats probably just a theory
Das made a lore video again!! A blessing from the lord!
great now get all artificer pearls (unless you did that already)
Another pretty defining point toward an iterator's puppet being it's "core" (at least in mental function) is the fact that Saint's ascension attack can kill the whole iterator by striking the puppet. I think it's very likely if the puppet itself were detached or its wires damaged too much it could cease function in a similar manner.
Also, since you mention it around 25:30, it would probably be redundant for the spheres on the side of Pebbles to be some kind of transmission array as there is both the major, long-range array at sky islands which seems to be fashioned for both Pebbles and Moon to use, as well as the fact that there is also a far taller array with similar looking dishes at it's top built into a large tower in his metropolis. Though, in Moons aerie, there's another ball with shorter towers on it's top and the room is very directly labeled "COMMS" suggesting it is in fact a communication tower. It's possible that they're just shorter ranged towers meant to send quick messages to one another or the local group's iterators (possibly why spearmaster can recieve frequent messages from the group in seemingly random areas?). The metropolis tower being built into a structure could also be because it's meant to be sort of like a radio tower, perhaps a hotspot for ancients to message Pebbles or other iterators.
Surprised nobodys pointed out that the Wall is where you find masses and masses of giant "cooling rods".
Anyway I kinda disagree with the idea that the water is coming from the Underhang/Vents - its kinda notable for there being a bunch of weird nuclear green electric crap INSTEAD of any rain or other hazard?
Didn't moon explain that the rarefaction cells were used as backup source of power and not the main source of Iterator's power?
If I were to take a guess the excess of Silicon in Moon's system might be from the degradation of her non-biotic computer system polluting the water systems, as silicon is very common in computer parts. and since moon is unable to flush these out or rebuild her damaged structure this silicon has built up inside in excess, causing the 410% shown in the report.
Silicon storage could be used for chip repair. The extreme value is due to silicon not being wasted, but being stored because other storage components are empty.
@@Voreoptera Silicon wouldn't be stored in the water.
The more likely scenario is that the silicon is from sediment trapped in the shitwater that was taken in due to damaged filters due to prolonged periods of water cycling.