best budget full frame cameras for landscape photography
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2020
- A look at my recommendations for used full frame cameras for landscape photography
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I've been searching for a video like this all week. Thank you for providing :)
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Loving this channel.
Someone with real life experience, speaking no nonsense.
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I agree with your assessment of the original A7, very different than the rest of the line, delightfully light for a Full Frame, my cheap entry into Full Frame some years ago. Have since also picked up the A7II, but still held onto the original for the unique joy of shooting with it sporting a small, light legacy lens like the diminutive Pentax 35mm m42 screw mount Takumars or light as a feather modern Samyang 35mm f 2.8 pancake type👌
Suggestion: Canon 5Ds. Cheap as dirt on ebay and a fantastic camera. I do love the Canon 5D mark II and I have two of them (one is a infrared converted camera).
I own a Nikon D610 and it has Live View and it is supported By Adobe Lightroom newer version to actually see the Live View. However I like your approach from a professional photographer's angle. Agree with you a 100%.
Thanks Peter, with the D600 im saying there is no exposure preview in live view :)
Very interesting, i own Eos 6D, but my future is probably Sony A7II or III, i plan for make more landscape with Ef lens on Sony.
3 years on. And 7Artisans have an electronic adapter out for Sony lenses where everything works. I use a Canon EF 70-200 F4 IS USM lens on my Sony A7 and autofocus, image stabilization etc works fine, even when filming! And I am thinling of getting a Canon EF 24-105mm lens for it as well, as they are so cheap used now, and I cant afford good Sony glass.
Lovely video 🌻
thanks again Mariano!
Very interesting comparison. Personally have been looking around for a cheap full frame landscape camera for a downgrade from my A7III. Dont get me wrong its an amazing entry level camera especially so for wildlife/portraits shooters. I just cant justify the price(of both the camera and the lenses ) to feature utilization in terms of landscape photography.
After much research i decided on the 6D, which is interesting since you didnt mention this camera. Amazing camera, even better than the 5D3 in terms of low light and dynamic range (some might say its low light is even better then its brother 6D2). Not to mention its cheaper and have more recent features (Wifi to connect to smartphone app /GPS). Whats better? getting a mint camera in 2020 for a cheap price!
Yeah the 6d is very good as well I did consider mentioning it but wanted to keep the video shorter there were a few cameras I skipped so the list wasn’t everything just a few suggestions but 6d was close.
Best summation yet. For $1000 for Canon RP is going to do it for me. Canons integration of EF lenses into the RF system beats Nikons and Sonys efforts. I can get a new RP and a used 16-35 F4 L IS for a bit over $2K in Aussie dollars. I don't shoot video or people so Its the sensor and the lenses I am chasing.
the 16-35 f4 is one of the best for landscape as is nikons 16-35 the cost to weight/performance is ideal!
I settled on a Nikon D810 , and D700 . I'm very pleased with both , as they perform very well . Any further purchases are for lenses .
Same here. Martin doesn’t seem to be crazy about the D810 but I love mine. Love the resolution and files and it’s built like a tank. And I have the D700 as my ‘romantic camera’. 🎉
Did he mention Pentax K1 - still class leading for landscape - look up its features: from gps, wifi, infra red remote shutter to built in astro tracer. Why youtubers continue to ignore it is baffling!
The Pentax K1 is a massive step up from these cameras however at the moment even the cheapest examples on eBay are over $1000. If your budget can stretch to that the K1 is your best bet by far.
Thanks for the suggestion didn’t mention it as I’m not familiar with it. Everything I post is only from my experience so won’t cover everything. Glad you mentioned it though so hopefully some will see the comment!
I believe the reason for this is because it uses heavy noise reduction from like ISO 800 up. You can check the Dynamic range charts here. www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
@@CD-lc4ir That is the K1 ii and it is no where near an issue as Dp review made out.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts for budget camera bodies, but I would be cautious regarding the Nikon bodies you suggested in your review
- D600 shutter spitting oil on the sensor, never decently sorted out by Nikon the reason why the D600 was short lived and replaced by the D610.
- D800 can have the same shutter oil problem as the D600 and a misalignment of the phase detect sensors with gives AF problems, Nikon service centre can remedy to the problem. You can have the D800 in 2 variations one with anti alias filter and the D800 with anti alias cancellation filter called the D800E. I would stretch towards a D810 with have no anti alias filter at all and has to my knowledge no known defects.
- D750 a great camera but with 3 recall actions I would be cautious and ask the seller if these issues had been sorted out. I had personally some major issues with the AF system most of my Nikkor lenses needed a correction of about +20
(AF-D and AF-S lenses) although the sensor is great, it was one of the lightest FF DSLR's when released and the tilt screen is very interesting. I went through 3 different bodies and finally gave up. The official service centre of my country did not help and even made things worser. I moved to another system (painful and costly decision) after 27 years Nikon use, but kept my D700 and a couple of lenses as I still have some analogue Nikon camera's
Other contenders as mentioned in other posts
- Pentax K1
- Canon 6D ( better sensor than the 6DMkII and 5DMkIII although lower res), same AF system as the 5D & 5DMkII)
- Nikon D4 or the lighter unloved Df they share the same Renaisance (bought by Sony) 16Mp sensor this sensor has a lot of highlight recovery. The D4 is a heavy beast designed for press photography and the Df is lighter with the AF system of the D600/D610 and a tiny battery.
These are of course my opinions.
With Regards,
thanks for your comments, i agree on the 6d and other options but tried to keep the video down to my own personal experiences rather than recommend cameras i havent really used. i wanted to keep to the budget end overall though so picked more on the lower used price cameras that i have experience of. which is why its a fairly limited list and hence no k1 mention too! thanks for your comments! :)
So what full frame camera do you recommend that’s under 1500?
@@Angelcake1371 Hi Jasmine, what currency?
Martin Castein Us dollars
Well said
If I was buying a budget full frame for landscapes right now it would probably be the D810 - very good dynamic range and 36MP should be more than enough for most. For lenses I'd get the Tamron 17-35mm, Nikon 24-85 3.5-4.5g ed vr and the Tamron 70-210 f4. All that for around £2000
Excellent suggestion I felt that the d810 was out of what most would call budget range but the setup you list is excellent
@@MartinCastein The d800 or d800E is also a good bet - about £200~300 cheaper.
I love how you casually remark that "36mp should be more than enough for most."
More accurately, 36mp is complete overkill by about 20 megapixels for the overwhelming majority of creators.
Would you reccomend a Sony A7RII or Nikon D810 for landscape photography? They are pretty cheap used now
Both are excellent the only downside with the Sony is the batteries, if you live in a cold country and go out for photos in winter I’d lean to the Nikon, otherwise the Sony has more small lens choices that keep the weight down and the tilt screen is just really nice for landscapes. You’d not go wrong with either so I’d buy the one you think you will like the most.
@@MartinCastein Thank you very much! I'll probably go with the one I can find a better deal on:)
Hi there!New subscriber here,what do you think about Nikon d300 and Nikon d700 in 2021 for general photography like portraits and Nature photography?
Do you have any experiences using any of them?Actually i am a beginner and i am looking to buy a Nikon d300 body(27000 clicks) with one extra battery for about 170 usd.what is your opinion on this camera?
I like to shoot Nature,macro pic of flowers and butterflies and portraits.
I like your channel a lot and i am also learning from your videos,Thank you
Hi thanks for the comment, ive had experience with the d700, quite a lot actually, its very good camera the megapixels are low but its great but has CF cards and so on. the crop sensor cameras with give you cheaper lenses so that might be a better place for you to start, i knew people that used the d300 a lot but both are old cameras now. Having said that i shoot older cameras than that, id look into which part of the system you want to get into, crop or full frame and what you can afford. Ultimately I dont think youd go wrong with either.
@@MartinCastein Thank you Martin,i think i will go with crop sensor Nikon d300 for now as you said it will be easier to start for me as the lenses will be cheaper too,thank you very much
@@acekat7009 you are welcome all the best with it!
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I would like to try one of these Nickons u keep talking about. 😁 over here in the u.s. we only get the Nikons
hahhaah!
@@MartinCastein i swear !!! You guys nickon nickon nickon . I guess you are right but its funny. It should be spelled Nikkon ! Kinda like Nikkor
We should write to Nikon and tell them they are doing it wrong 🤣
@@MartinCastein Right ... its japanese. They probably say neekong
Thx for the information Martin.
Just a quick question, just starting out in photography, own 2 bodies, 5D classic and a 7Dmk1.
I imagine the dynamic range on both these bodies are shocking compared to newer versions but I'm new and these work for me and with my 5D I'm trying to learn the fundamentals (always on manual) with out any assistance from the body.
Anyway, the question is I've looked at your uploads regarding Landscape photography and the 5D and your photos are simply stunning!!
I have a 16-35mm f/4L Is being delivered tomorrow to use with my 5D.
Should I still be able to get great landscapes with this setup?
Cheers
Thanks yes you can you need to learn to bracket your exposures so you take an exposure for the sky and one for the ground and you must shoot at the right time if day when the sun is low in the sky regardless of if there is a sunset/rise or not. The low angle of the sun creates shadows which creates shape. You can blend exposures together in lightroom. Search for tutorials on RUclips. Any other questions just ask.
@@MartinCastein Thankyou for your input!
I've recently been trying different exposures for sky then ground (on my tripod) then trying to blend them together in Luminar AI.
Luminar isn't ideal for this so I'll look into finding some better software to blend photos together.
Keep up the great work!
I don’t luminar so can’t comment I only use lightroom and photoshop but keep at it, with landscapes a huge part of it having the right light and sometimes you have to really wait days for it unfortunately
For sure Sony has a great dynamic range, but I prefer the colours and the "quality" of Canon and in the worst case bracketing helps.
I agree completely
What do you think about Sony a7ii?
I haven’t used it so can’t say more than I’d expect it to be a good camera as I’ve had the Mark 1 and have the iii
Idk if my A7ii had the same sensor as the original but i did not like the pictures at all. Infact compared with the tiny apsc fuji xf10 i had at the time was better in all areas. It was 4yrs newer though
the problem with the sony cameras, well the early ones is the in camera raw processing puts such a heavy colour, sorry i mean color 🤪, cast on everything which can be strong enough to really cause problems. its a good sensor otherwise though in terms of base performance.
@@MartinCastein your funny 😁
Canon 6D Mark 1 is also excellent
i agree in hindsight i should have and would include it.
Great for portraits. Its dynamic range is 12evs when nikons have about 14
And people shooting velvia 50 for landscapes had.. 6 stops. A tiny bit of skill will easily negate two stops unless you refuse to bracket and also edit up shadows HEAVILY. Your computer monitor only displays like 6 stops. @@georgesmith3022
Best classic relatively affordable DSLR for landscape is the Pentax K1 & K1 Mark II, most every reviewer online holds to that point.
Never used it and never met anyone that has one which is why I didnt mention it, not into recommeding things ive never seen. Seems a few in the comments really rate it though! So im sure its good.
Pentax is often overlooked by the public partially because they’re too often overlooked by the commentators/“experienced” shooters for lack of familiarity, which I struggle to understand, as I check out every possibility when looking for photographic equipment, Pentax Ki being universally praised as the best landscape camera by even those who don’t like the brand for other reasons. With all due respect, I would take your own well intentioned/much appreciated advice by doing yourself the oft offered/ hinted at suggestion that you give the camera a shot. I’d figure you’d want to considering your interest in such a camera, the Pentax arguably being at the top rung of that DSLR ladder..... just sayin’
I refuse to part with my D750 because it's like an old friend, but for landscapes I prefer my Z7 which according to "smart people" is already outdated.
Nikon D850?? It's still has image quality
A7m1 has a plastic mount. Avoid it. It loosens up and needs replacement
Oh that’s annoying, didn’t know that, I sold mine the battery life is too bad for what I do really
I sold my full frame bricks! Full frame is way over priced, super heavy, and just a way camera manufacturers pull more money out of your pocket with nonsense “camera snob” marketing. Micro 4/3 prints are every bit as good in my experience , usually better than my full frame Nikon and Canon prints. I’ve printed Micro 4/3 up to 24”x36” prints and even larger! And my new Olympus lenses are superb!
Thats great, where can i see your work?
@@MartinCastein I'm not a pro, still learning. BUT- here are some videos who are, in case you are interested. ruclips.net/video/1oQbT4ixMtI/видео.html
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@K & J L Thanks, im a professional photographer as well, im well aware of megapixels and sensor sizes. I think you should relax about the sensor size thing. Its fine whatever you shoot, this video was simply about full frame but shot many other formats too. :)