Gm's 4 cylinders have always been underrated. I had a 5 speed LD9 2.4l in a Grand am couple and would still have it if it wasn't for the blasted cooling issues that ultimately killed it. I am a current mustang owner but I still have a love for the Gm 4 bangers.
@Jarred510 only after 2nd. it has ridiculous tire spin using no-lift from 1st to 2nd even at drag strips, although my tires suck too. might get misfires too if the car isn't warmed up enough, or whatever reason. solution is colder plugs.
cobalt ss come turbocharged now, the older ones came supercharged. pick up a road and track sometime. they also run a 13.9 from the factory now as opposed to the s/c ones that ran a 14.5 stock.
Both cars are mean but im glad the Cobalt won. I love muscle cars, theyre my type of car, but those Cobalts are SERIOUSLY under rated by morons online who dont know any better. People will trash talk them all day when none of it is true or desirved. The Mach 1s are nasty too and maybe a little under-rated in the muscle car world, but i just hate how Mustang guys are. Acting like they desirve a win because of that pony emblem. Theyre the Phillip Rivers of the performance car world
@Jarred510 one after 2nd. I try using it from 1st to 2nd and you get ridiculous tire spin no matter where you are, even at the drag strip. It doesn't always work out well either, sometimes it misfires. easy solution is colder plugs.
the SS/SC was under rated and stock dynod on numerous dynos at 225HP. I have a heavily modified one with stage 3 plus a custom tune and every bolt on imaginable. It pulls hard on most EVO's, STI's, and SRT-4 and definatley give them a run for there money. I love how people think they are slow and that I'm stock when I beat them. They have to be decently modified to beat me now. Plus they can be rare to see in some places. Good car for the money and when you spent EVO prices on it modifying. NICE
@tastychips1 I know, I have one but it sucks. Plus I'm not launching at 5000rpms like it's setup to. I was referring to beating a Mustang GT with my traction control on since it wouldn't let my tires just spin, it was by accident though not planned out.
yea the car is real dialed in. The dealer offeres a tune that unlocks the learn down feature but then again any tune unlocks it. Its one of the only mechanical laws this car has.
@ballorfall44 You can even hear him shifting that 5 speed, good race though. That Hahn intake is incredible, I know a couple people with that and the turbo back exhaust
@SwagDumbAmazing yup 5speed mach 1s run 13.1 @ 108.7MPH bone stock with regular street tires no drag radials or aluminum wheels 4speed automatic mach 1s run 13.9 @103MPH almost a full second difference at the 1/4 mile!!!!!!!
I drive a 2003 mach with full exhaust, intake, intake spacer, some suspension work and some good tires. As far as any cobalt ive had the pleasure of racing got beat. Roll or dig. Srt10 ram gets it bad too. Driver mod is the best mod
@maxcool0216 i drive a 04 mach 1 5speed i made 13.1 @ 108.7MPH at fontana california speedway running regular street tires and stock magnum wheels but now i have stainless steel magnaflow catback exhaust going to put ford racing 4.10 gears and nitto drag radials next with c&l cai!!!!!!
@smaho27 wow ur a genius obviously what i was talking about is that factory stock the only mustangs that come in manual and not auto are the cobras pay attention!!!!!!!!
@XxGlamisDunerxX nothing wrong with my supercharger. it's fast as hell without mods. i'll spend the difference from the discount i got at gm on my sc and be faster than the turbo easy. still the turbo is nice too.
@XxGlamisDunerxX Yes I agree with you but turbos dont have a good power curve like you get with a supercharger/Nitrous. So at the strip/ dig race i would take a supercharger/ nitrous over a turbo but if you roll racing i would take a turbo. Cheers.
@00saleen9244ssscm You can get a mustang gt to easily be in the 12s, do you have a set of slicks on it for the track? With a full exhaust, intake, throttle body/intake manifold, mild cam and slicks you should be under the 12.90 mark. Thats still what I consider bolt ons too, and if you're using weight reduction you should hit 12s easy everytime
@hipnaughtic with cold air the coblat is probably making 270 hp maybe better the car weighs just under 3,000lbs...vers the mach1 at about 3600 the cobalt already runs mid and high 13s with the nolift shift so..drivers race man
@6Stang99 fastest i think was a 13.66 stock . its on here some where. dont remember the speed. and i the fastest a magazine reviewd it at was a 13.9 at 104.
Chevy has a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder direct injected car that can run even in a straight line with a Dodge R\T charger or Challenger and even run even with a ford 2005-2009 Mustang GT... And out handle those cars like they were made in the early 80's... Gotta love it...
@ballorfall44 your right my fault. 3rd to 4th gear kinda sounded like an auto for a sec. Had to replay it. Hopefully i get my cobalt soon and I'll start putting vids up too lol
@cozzey05 i said inexpensive... as in people who can't afford faster cars get mustangs to enjoy the daily drive a little more. but don't forget that ford invented the ford GT which is the vette killer and the terminator cobra at the very least deserves respect. its engine can handle more power than a supra with the same turbo settup
@AblueSHADEofMETAL i also agree with you. but i feel as if over the past 20 years people have started to get extremely ignorant in motorsports. there is no one car that is above all. engine size, make, model and drivetrain all have their own strengths and weaknesses
My 2.0 is great, but put a cobra supercharger on a gt and is a monster. Example my friends 08mustang gt. I'd be good with cai, ic, +cp, cat less dp, exhaust. Turbo upgrade..maybe in a year or two lol
@ITRIEDEL if you did some research and looked at my videos, you would know my cobalt that i use to own, was a supercharged, not a turbo. At the time of the race that i took on a mustang saleen, 87ish mustang with nitrous, DL, intake, exhaust and a stock mustang GT, i had a supercharger swap for a bigger one and still running on stock exhaust setup, at the time i was only 260whp. And the mustang isnt a legend, Ford simply cant come up with anything better so they keep upgrading it.
good run. but what are the other mods on the cobalt? i dont believe its just a cold air. mach's trap in the 105 territory running 13.3's stock so somethin aint quite adding up
@admiraljimmy brings it down to a drivers race mach 1's run mid 13s with a decent driver and the cobalts can hit high 13s to 14 but I agree stock for stock you would think the mustang would win
Got respect for this LNF!!!! Turbo cobalts dominate!!! I beat a procharged mustang and evo 8 when i was stock. Cobalt dominate their car class!! Mod for mod aswell, no matter what.
wasn't an insult, just thought back to a race i had with a mustang gt in my ss/tc and i left the traction on by accident and seemed to launch great lol
@N3CROKiLLA33 just be careful. the gt is a 2v engine where as the cobra is a 4v engine and the engine itself can take stock around 900-1000hp whereas a gt can take 500 at most. dont put it above 8lbs of boost with stock internals
@TheZohaun not too mention the supercharger...I love the 03/04 cobra, it's an amazing car. I just hate whenever some douche in a 2 valve thinks he can pull my LS1 because he has gears and bolt ons.
@ballorfall44 then that driver must've missed shifted cause cobalts usually run mid 14s 0-60 in 5.9 sec and the 5speed mach 1 runs 0-60 in 4.7sec even the 4speed auto runs 0-60 in 5.6sec!!!!!!!
@russnord you are right you take the eaton blower or turbo off an cobalts ss and its Super Shit, but if you where to take a turbo of an mustang gt it would still be fast depending on the mods speaking. I just saying without boost 4 cyclinders are useless for performance sorry S2000 fans.
@TheZohaun the new mustang 5.0 is pretty impressive...it's just a shame when you finally think ford stepped to the plate and made a decent sports car again it's all ruined to the high rate of failures in these transmissions.
@maxcool0216 uh dude the only $ i spend on my ride was buying it and gas all the rest is bone stock execept for the magnaflow previous owner threw that in with the car before i ran it at the track!!!!!!! my car only needs cai,pulleys,ford racing 4.10 gears,drag radilals tuned and i will make 11s in 4th gear power shifting!!!!!!!
@ITRIEDEL doesnt matter, a win is a win. Theres always going to be a faster car then what you have. 480rwhp mustang vs a 260fwhp cobalt, i dont care if it was by luck, lack of skill of the mustang driver or the skills i have. I win is a win.
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@vdjun13sur13 that Mach 1 isn't an auto...
superchargers are good too, nice flat torque curve, instant power.....just depends on the application.
I clicked on this thinking the Stang would take it... I was wrong! Great start for both cars, and great shifting on the SS.
Gm's 4 cylinders have always been underrated. I had a 5 speed LD9 2.4l in a Grand am couple and would still have it if it wasn't for the blasted cooling issues that ultimately killed it. I am a current mustang owner but I still have a love for the Gm 4 bangers.
@Jarred510 only after 2nd. it has ridiculous tire spin using no-lift from 1st to 2nd even at drag strips, although my tires suck too. might get misfires too if the car isn't warmed up enough, or whatever reason. solution is colder plugs.
cobalt ss come turbocharged now, the older ones came supercharged. pick up a road and track sometime. they also run a 13.9 from the factory now as opposed to the s/c ones that ran a 14.5 stock.
Both cars are mean but im glad the Cobalt won. I love muscle cars, theyre my type of car, but those Cobalts are SERIOUSLY under rated by morons online who dont know any better. People will trash talk them all day when none of it is true or desirved. The Mach 1s are nasty too and maybe a little under-rated in the muscle car world, but i just hate how Mustang guys are. Acting like they desirve a win because of that pony emblem. Theyre the Phillip Rivers of the performance car world
@Jarred510 one after 2nd. I try using it from 1st to 2nd and you get ridiculous tire spin no matter where you are, even at the drag strip. It doesn't always work out well either, sometimes it misfires. easy solution is colder plugs.
@420mas im glad u have a fast mach 1 tha car is beast
the SS/SC was under rated and stock dynod on numerous dynos at 225HP. I have a heavily modified one with stage 3 plus a custom tune and every bolt on imaginable. It pulls hard on most EVO's, STI's, and SRT-4 and definatley give them a run for there money. I love how people think they are slow and that I'm stock when I beat them. They have to be decently modified to beat me now. Plus they can be rare to see in some places. Good car for the money and when you spent EVO prices on it modifying. NICE
it was really good of them to switch to turbo, now that the srt-4 is gone, they dont have any competition in that department
@tastychips1 I know, I have one but it sucks. Plus I'm not launching at 5000rpms like it's setup to. I was referring to beating a Mustang GT with my traction control on since it wouldn't let my tires just spin, it was by accident though not planned out.
not gonna lie that "yay" scared the shit outta me
@9eja3 hahahah hellz yeah...first i was like what yay??? hahaha
@rahu8670 at the time all it was a Hahn CAI, that was the only part out for it back then.
yea the car is real dialed in. The dealer offeres a tune that unlocks the learn down feature but then again any tune unlocks it. Its one of the only mechanical laws this car has.
amazing before the turbo bolts came out everyone doubted and now its like a slap in the face
@ballorfall44 You can even hear him shifting that 5 speed, good race though. That Hahn intake is incredible, I know a couple people with that and the turbo back exhaust
@429mas im pretty sure youre wrong on that but id have to look it up. and im also pretty sure the boss 302 doesnt come factory stock auto
@SwagDumbAmazing yup 5speed mach 1s run 13.1 @ 108.7MPH bone stock with regular street tires no drag radials or aluminum wheels 4speed automatic mach 1s run 13.9 @103MPH almost a full second difference at the 1/4 mile!!!!!!!
@mustanglover1985 cobalt is pretty much stock, besides the intake but thats only good for about 5hp.
@rahu8670 at the times all it was a Hahn CAI, the only part out for it back then.
I drive a 2003 mach with full exhaust, intake, intake spacer, some suspension work and some good tires. As far as any cobalt ive had the pleasure of racing got beat. Roll or dig. Srt10 ram gets it bad too. Driver mod is the best mod
Nice run, broke my heart lol lets throw a turbo in the mach and try it again =P
@TheZohaun or the chevy 383 from the ultimate aero...
@maxcool0216 i drive a 04 mach 1 5speed i made 13.1 @ 108.7MPH at fontana california speedway running regular street tires and stock magnum wheels but now i have stainless steel magnaflow catback exhaust going to put ford racing 4.10 gears and nitto drag radials next with c&l cai!!!!!!
cobalt's are extremely underrated that's why i bought one :)
You can hear the meat heads crying “It had to be boosted 😭” 😂 love it
oh hell yeah dude... cobalt ss/tc all the way!!!! that was nice, that should end a lot of smack talkin against 4 bangers...
@SwagDumbAmazing it was a five speed...
@smaho27 wow ur a genius obviously what i was talking about is that factory stock the only mustangs that come in manual and not auto are the cobras pay attention!!!!!!!!
@SwagDumbAmazing yeah listen to the shifts...5-speed actually they prob come in 6 lol but you get it
@quickestwhiteboy oh and just bought a brand new $43,000 2011 Evo X to go along with my collection.
@deezyob ECOTEC motors have a lot of potential, thats y I got it. I have also had a Cavy witht he ECOTEC.
@XxGlamisDunerxX nothing wrong with my supercharger. it's fast as hell without mods. i'll spend the difference from the discount i got at gm on my sc and be faster than the turbo easy. still the turbo is nice too.
@XxGlamisDunerxX Yes I agree with you but turbos dont have a good power curve like you get with a supercharger/Nitrous. So at the strip/ dig race i would take a supercharger/ nitrous over a turbo but if you roll racing i would take a turbo. Cheers.
@jasonschwarting That's 45more HP if the cobalt is stock, which it isnt. SS t/c cobalts are low 14 sec cars at best bone stock.
@Blownpony01 yes they do the only mustangs that dont come in auto are the cobras look it up!!!!!!!!
@JakeyBadSnakey thanks...
@ballorfall44 Nice. With that trap speed they should be at about what, mid 13's with some sticky tires?
@00saleen9244ssscm You can get a mustang gt to easily be in the 12s, do you have a set of slicks on it for the track? With a full exhaust, intake, throttle body/intake manifold, mild cam and slicks you should be under the 12.90 mark. Thats still what I consider bolt ons too, and if you're using weight reduction you should hit 12s easy everytime
@hipnaughtic with cold air the coblat is probably making 270 hp maybe better the car weighs just under 3,000lbs...vers the mach1 at about 3600 the cobalt already runs mid and high 13s with the nolift shift so..drivers race man
@russnord true dat you have the right idea
@6Stang99 fastest i think was a 13.66 stock . its on here some where. dont remember the speed. and i the fastest a magazine reviewd it at was a 13.9 at 104.
@ballorfall44 Damn, not bad. With that trap speed they should be what, mid 13's on some sticky tires?
You are very wise my friend.
@XxGlamisDunerxX the 2008 cobalt ss comes turbo charged with more horses
@smaho27 the new boss 302 doesn't come factory stock auto only stick thank god!!!!!!
Chevy has a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder direct injected car that can run even in a straight line with a Dodge R\T charger or Challenger and even run even with a ford 2005-2009 Mustang GT... And out handle those cars like they were made in the early 80's... Gotta love it...
love the cobalt, my car ain't even a ss and i had a dodge charger chasing me
@ballorfall44 Equipt with turbo yes... Mach is a V8 320 HP, 300 to the wheels don't give me that bullshit
@SwagDumbAmazing does the mach ones come in a 6 speed like the cobras, if not all well it sounded like he was powershifting that thing
Damn, nice race. What do these TC'd SS's run stock in the 1/4 mile?
@TheZohaun well after owning my LS1 it is pretty sad sitting in a 2 valve
@ballorfall44 your right my fault. 3rd to 4th gear kinda sounded like an auto for a sec. Had to replay it. Hopefully i get my cobalt soon and I'll start putting vids up too lol
@cozzey05 i said inexpensive... as in people who can't afford faster cars get mustangs to enjoy the daily drive a little more. but don't forget that ford invented the ford GT which is the vette killer and the terminator cobra at the very least deserves respect. its engine can handle more power than a supra with the same turbo settup
wow! that caught me by storm. didnt expect that but good kill
@AblueSHADEofMETAL i also agree with you. but i feel as if over the past 20 years people have started to get extremely ignorant in motorsports. there is no one car that is above all. engine size, make, model and drivetrain all have their own strengths and weaknesses
yeah I agree the stang took a while to hit 2nd gear
@cozzey05 and the terminator cobra is a 32v engine unlike the gt
@ballorfall44 I've seen guys who practiced get the stock Cobalt TC down to 13.6 at the track. RUclips vids verify this too.
@SwagDumbAmazing even with the 4speed automatic with me driving it putting it in first that cobalt still would've been dinner!!!!!!!!
@quickestwhiteboy yup, $250 on intake n took out the all mighty Mach 1...lol
My 2.0 is great, but put a cobra supercharger on a gt and is a monster. Example my friends 08mustang gt. I'd be good with cai, ic, +cp, cat less dp, exhaust. Turbo upgrade..maybe in a year or two lol
@ITRIEDEL if you did some research and looked at my videos, you would know my cobalt that i use to own, was a supercharged, not a turbo. At the time of the race that i took on a mustang saleen, 87ish mustang with nitrous, DL, intake, exhaust and a stock mustang GT, i had a supercharger swap for a bigger one and still running on stock exhaust setup, at the time i was only 260whp. And the mustang isnt a legend, Ford simply cant come up with anything better so they keep upgrading it.
good run. but what are the other mods on the cobalt? i dont believe its just a cold air. mach's trap in the 105 territory running 13.3's stock so somethin aint quite adding up
@6Stang99 13.6 at 104. is the fastest recorded track run as in cought on tape. "stock"
@Cowboy2792 no mach 1s come in 5speed manual or 4speed automatic!!!!!!
@admiraljimmy brings it down to a drivers race mach 1's run mid 13s with a decent driver and the cobalts can hit high 13s to 14 but I agree stock for stock you would think the mustang would win
@hipnaughtic read again, i didn't say it was an auto...
@TheZohaun ask that boss 302 owner how much he loves that chinese transmission.
Got respect for this LNF!!!! Turbo cobalts dominate!!! I beat a procharged mustang and evo 8 when i was stock. Cobalt dominate their car class!! Mod for mod aswell, no matter what.
The Mustang driver drove hard and power shifted. He drove really well it's just that Cobalt SS TC is really fast.
wasn't an insult, just thought back to a race i had with a mustang gt in my ss/tc and i left the traction on by accident and seemed to launch great lol
@jasonschwarting It's all about the driver you can own a vette and get beat all day long by a prius in a drag race if you don't know how to drive it.
RIGHT ON BROTHA!!!!!!!
@vdjun13sur13 Not an auto and it got beat because there not fast....
Not trolling, but did the Mach1 driver miss 2nd? He had the Cobalt off the line then fell back quickly. Seemed like the 1-2 shift didn't go right.
@N3CROKiLLA33 just be careful. the gt is a 2v engine where as the cobra is a 4v engine and the engine itself can take stock around 900-1000hp whereas a gt can take 500 at most. dont put it above 8lbs of boost with stock internals
@TheZohaun not too mention the supercharger...I love the 03/04 cobra, it's an amazing car. I just hate whenever some douche in a 2 valve thinks he can pull my LS1 because he has gears and bolt ons.
@maxcool0216 off course we cant cause we will always be more than a full second faster!!!!!!
Cobalt just has a intake? Nothing else!?
turbocharged
@jasonschwarting LOL. Then on your premise, the Camaro Z28 is a joke too.
@ballorfall44 then that driver must've missed shifted cause cobalts usually run mid 14s 0-60 in 5.9 sec and the 5speed mach 1 runs 0-60 in 4.7sec even the 4speed auto runs 0-60 in 5.6sec!!!!!!!
Dude the fact of the matter is simple. Both cars started at the same time the slower one finished last.
@hipnaughtic i didn't say it was an auto, read again...
@9eja3 hahaha, even when expecting it, it sounds like someone was saying it from behind me.
@jasonschwarting Considering the fact that the Mach weighs a lot more than a fucking cobalt I dont think so.
@russnord you are right you take the eaton blower or turbo off an cobalts ss and its Super Shit, but if you where to take a turbo of an mustang gt it would still be fast depending on the mods speaking. I just saying without boost 4 cyclinders are useless for performance sorry S2000 fans.
i loved the 'yay!' at the end =)
I'm guessing the ss/tc had traction control on or he's decent at launching.
@TheZohaun the new mustang 5.0 is pretty impressive...it's just a shame when you finally think ford stepped to the plate and made a decent sports car again it's all ruined to the high rate of failures in these transmissions.
@maxcool0216 uh dude the only $ i spend on my ride was buying it and gas all the rest is bone stock execept for the magnaflow previous owner threw that in with the car before i ran it at the track!!!!!!! my car only needs cai,pulleys,ford racing 4.10 gears,drag radilals tuned and i will make 11s in 4th gear power shifting!!!!!!!
@quickestwhiteboy I love my STOCK tc balt
how won????
@ITRIEDEL doesnt matter, a win is a win. Theres always going to be a faster car then what you have. 480rwhp mustang vs a 260fwhp cobalt, i dont care if it was by luck, lack of skill of the mustang driver or the skills i have. I win is a win.
holy shit i was talkin to my cousin about gettin a cobalt for my first car and i was gunna race his focus but damn his car dont stand a chance
you are very wise
@cozzey05 ask a koenigsegg owner how much he loves that terminator cobra 32v v8 motor
You're also Superman. You forgot mention that...