How to shift without the clutch (clutchless shifting)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- READ THE DESCRIPTION FIRST PLEASE. I am not responsible for anything that happens to your car if you try this. I actually do not recommend doing it but its nice to know.
Many people seem to be getting the wrong idea for this video. I am NOT telling you to not to use your clutch. This video is just to show how to shift without the clutch if the time comes when you need to use this. If your clutch goes out you might need to use this. This technique is potentially hazardous to your car. So if youre going to post a comment about how bad it is and just use the clutch, please dont post a comment. Some people want to know how to do it and that it is possible. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THIS OR TO NEGLECT YOUR CLUTCH. I KNOW HOW TO SHIFT WITHOUT THE CLUTCH, IT DOES NOT MEAN I DO THIS WITH EVERY SHIFT I DO. IN FACT I HAVENT DONE THIS SINCE I MADE THE VIDEO.
The car is a mini cooper S 2005 with the stock supercharger. Yes the audio is slightly off when i created the video but o well. The cameras i used were a vholdr contourHD 1080p for the rear camera, and 2 canon powershots for the tachometer and feet. This is kinda hard to learn and bad for your car when you mess up so practice at your own risk!
Can't wait to impress my driving examiner with this
Lemme know how that goes xD
@@xGhouI lol
How did it go?
Haha I hope it's his car
This is such an underrated comment
how to shift without using the clutch
step 1. don't.
for cars*
motorcycles FTW
+Crazy Man Productions lol
+Crazy Man Productions not good for bikes too tho
+Jan Kuhrau #quickshifter
errrm no its fine because its a sequential gear box as long as you know how to handle the throttle you can shift with no clutch, even from a stand still if you wanna run with the bike. and this is from somebody that owns a bike a simson bs 51 from 1985 with a perfect gearbox
Whenever I mess up a shift and grind gears my heart breaks a little.
your heart grinds a little*
So does ur money
It hurts I know man 😭😭
then i have ashatterd heart, trying to shift a non sync manual the first time is hard
I wonder how bad it is to grind the gears? How much grinding will cause issues. A few times? A few months? A few years? Interested in knowing, thanks
i feel so bad for this guy. everyone is calling him out for being stupid and they were all probably too lazy to read the description.
This is actually a real technique called "float shifting". If done properly it only puts very minimal wear on your transmission, and if your clutch goes out while driving but you aren't far from home then it isn't actually a bad idea.
No, you are a very uninformed and ignorant moron, that's what you are, but as Socrates said, you will never be able to understand this yourself. And change that picture of Einstein you have, it's rather ironic.
This technique is USED for some good reasons, for example left-foot braking. Also, if done properly, by someone who understands manual transmission (not you), it will not cause wear on the transmission any more than clutch shifting. Now go fuck yourself, moron.
Up shifting down shifting without a clutch is perfectly good if you know how to do it if you don't then yeah fuck yor selfe
@@PLCTSD Everybody should learn to shift without the clutch, because shifting without the clutch doesn't put any wear on the clutch or gears or synchromesh. People wear out their cars because they're constantly changing gears without rev matching, but learning to change without a clutch helps with this. Even if you use the clutch, you should be blipping the throttle on downshifts and letting the rpm drop on upshifts.
Just because he says in the description that he doesn't recommend doing this doesn't mean he's not an idiot for suggesting it.
All you're doing is forcing the clutch to slip without disengaging and re-engaging it. The amount of needless wear and tear you'll cause on the gearbox depends on how the gearbox is set up. If your gear ratios are really close then you might get away with it by causing minimal slipping and thus a minimal shock to the system when you suddenly change the rpm, but in most cars that is not the case. In most cars the same speed, for example, 30 mph in 3rd might be 2300 rpm while in 4th it might be 1900 rpm. That's a 400 rpm difference that your clutch has to smooth out by slipping. However, because your clutch is engaged while you're shifting and your wheels are trying to spin at the same speed while your engine is trying to spin at a different speed, the syncro in the gearbox is either lagging behind or pushing ahead. Either way it's not properly aligning with the other gears. And you basically use brute force to try and push it into place. Doing this can be disastrous for your gearbox.
First of all, thank you for making this video. You saved me quite a walk home.
I watched this video about a year ago and learned how to shift without the clutch.
About a month back, I was crawling a hill in my Jeep when out of no where I lost all clutch pressure (clutch hose pop from incorrect fitting). Thanks to your advice I was able to rev match on my way down the hill and was able to drive home using this technique. Some people might think this video is useless, but it definitely saved me a 20 mile hike.
I need to hear the story of how you got into a full stop as well plz lmao
Probably neutral and brakes? :D
@@lvi8430 shut off engine lmao shit is too easy
@@mates1627 Fucken genius
Big Cap if there were any stops lol
you know what grinds my gears? when people grind their gears.
BDAYZ true dat m8
We heard you like grinding gears so we put some gears on your gears so when you grind your gears you can grind your gears
Fam. Guy
hahah so true
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When you rent a car for the day ....
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Made my day. 😅
Americans ....
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It is nice that someone takes time to show you how to do it. Long time ago I had a 4 speed with steel cable actuated clutch. I was driving along one evening on back roads, then the clutch cable broke; clutch pedal all the way to the floor . I had to learn on the spot how to do it. Put the car in second gear, crank it and then shift by matching the road speed with the RPM, and transmission speed to get home. That was a long night. Sold that car, and got me a Jeep YJ, with hydraulic clutch. I thought to myself, how cool that I do not have to put up with the clutch cable failing on me. I was WAY wrong. I was going off-road quite often. Than one day, when I was off-roading, out of the blue I was not able to get the car in/out gears. Jump out of the car and check the hydraulic clutch reservoir. Reservoir was empty; I broke the hydraulic line. Had to grind gears all the way home again.
You are a good dude for griding your own gears just to show what can happen if you don't do it properly. Thanks man!
Is 100% safe if you know how to do that :)
Bostyan87 What, grinding is safe?
Isn't the clutch the fun in driving a manual?
I would rather say the stick is the fun part.. Honestly the clutch is a bit annoying xD (I would never do this to my car btw.)
Bengals8Sharky clutch the shifter and being busy is the fun of a manual
i did this with my car . it works and the car still lives . but i only did id once to try it out . i use the clutch dont worry . but its a cool thing to impress someone who doesnt know about this .
Trying to shift the stick with just tips of fingers as fast as possible ;) or if you're the passenger knock the stick into neutral while driver has the clutch pedal down
READ THE DESCRIPTION FIRST PLEASE. the description says
I use to do that wen I was way younger, when I had a manual car. It's lots of fun. But I didn't have any RPM in my car back then. So it was all by feel and ear. Was still pretty easy to do. One of the main thing you need is confidence. You need to trust that you can do it.
I have to thumb up this comment: Confidence is key.
Word
@@69Phuket any manual driver will know there’s even good manual days or bad manual days.
Is your gearbox ok?
@@rebelous Sure. It's a question of timing. AND… Never force things. Just a gentle push or pull on the gear lever and things will go well.
This works when your clutch master/slave goes out, and you need to hobble home. Been there.
XTZTwinTurbo what about at a complete stop? U live in a highway?
t100base - I've had to do it as well twice, once being just tonight. You just do your best not to stop and hope u don't have to. Both times I've had to limp home, I've been lucky enough to be able to only slow but not completely stop, so I still had momentum, and wasn't that far from home. It sucks, but what he is showing is extremely helpful if your clutch goes out while you're driving and you have to get home or to a shop nearby.
Phil Kuu man, my slave just went out 400 miles from home
t100base if u hit the gas when you turn the car on in first gear you can get it moving
Put the car in first and get it moving using the starter lol
If you do it right, there is no risk of damaging your synchros. At the right moment, there is no force being applied to the snchros as the internal inertia reaches an equilibrium between acceleration and deceleration stresses. Sort of like throwing a ball in the air. For a moment, the ball hovers as the force of gravity and air resistance reaches an equilibrium with Newtons first law. If you do it wrong, you will hear it immediately. Dont know why everyone is getting defensive. If you don't want to do it, then don't, and have a decent argument other than calling people stupid.
+Chris Quetsch He is right.
If you are a competent Driver and know Your car and can cleanly Rev match every gear It will not harm the Syncro's
My dad did this for over 450,000 KM in a Old 1982 FJ60 Toyota Landcruiser.
(it had a Triple plate Clutch for towing a boat and it was Very heavy to push down)
Only Time he EVER Used the Clutch was taking off (in 1st or 2nd -1st rarely needed on Landcruiser)
And Downshifting. Otherwise i think he did Hundreds of thousands of gear changes without the clutch.
In the end All the car had replaced was a Cylinder Head @ 850,000 KM and normal servicing
After the car had done well over 1,655,000 KM before it Met a Tree after Hitting a Kangaroo that ripped Leaf shackle clean off the diff.
So to Clarify 1,6 Million KM's 450,000 of those Dry shifting the gearbox was sold (Working Secondhand)
Also if done Right Passengers in the car will NOT know you even shifted gears.
It's Smoother power transition than if your are using a clutch.
+Chris Quetsch When everyone is saying about Rev matching then you must be knowing that it is impossible to actually achieve perfectly matched revs,and even a minimal amount of RPM difference can cause lot of induced shear stress in the gears,though it might not be visible at the beginning but the impulses generated will eventually shorten the life of the gearbox.
I used to argue about this with the my friend who tunes and builds engines... but I don't grind, And theres no discernable transfer of load the car and transmission are smooth... he says, you're an idiot... you can't mitigate side load completely and synchros are not meant the bare that energy, a clutch has a friction surface 1000s of times larger than a synchro which is why you use it. if you wanna shift without a clutch. run a dog box, which is shitty and loud and grinds and jerks the car around and has to be rebuilt every ten thousand miles.
Might not work with all cars and quality of cars True..
but have personally Known someone with a old VE Valiant Ute (1970's) He clutchless shifted 2nd and 3rd for over 570,000KM without issues (only it needed 1 new clutch at 400,000K Then at about 580,000 Km it Ate a tree after hitting a Kangaroo
Helical cut dogs aren't noisey
How to shift without the clutch: Drive an automatic
Autos have a clutch :|
Vcxb U since when?
GustavTheGoat since always
+GustavTheGoat since autos were invented
I like that!!
You....former joke writer for Jay Leno?
this car must be rented ^^'
+Artur Bagiński don't be gentle it's a rental :D
+Artur Bagiński I know from my own experience.
I rented a car/van for the few times, and rolling downhill slowly in the traffic I just roll down on high gear so I can hear valves just saving petrol not even thinking about reducing engine live as I just simply don't care :-P
That's nothing affecting the engine life in any significant way on short run, but I never do it in my own vehicles :-P
+Artur Bagiński Rental car in America with manual transmission? no way, this was his car.
+TheFirestorm214 lots of ppl drive manual in America, but this is stupid
+corey4347 you are stupid as fuck
for all the kiddo's saying its bad on the trans.
1. go study how manual transmissions work.
2. realize if clutchless shifting is done properly, it doesnt put wear on the clutch and synchros.
3. dont put shitty comments on videos.
4. make the world a better place by learning and teaching others.
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dosbox907 it's only bad if you don't do it right.i think it's stupid because you're just putting your transmission in danger plus it's EXTREMELY easy to use the clutch when shifting
It's not bad on the transmission, but why in the hell would you want to get into a fully operational manual transmission vehicle and not use the clutch?
Get a fucking automatic or put the clutch in and shift.
or just use the clutch
+nicholas danca Yes, use the clutch when it doesn't work and without using this method, what a brilliant idea my dear dumbass friend!
my uncle saved money by not replacing his clutch... he's been driving around without one for years
+Drew Northway how does he get started from first gear?
+Drew Northway wait until he has to replace the synchronizers.
+nicholas danca well it is useful when your clutch is broken to bring the car to the repair service.
thanks for your noble sacrifice young sir; grinding your gears for us viewers to show us what to do in case of emergency and our clutch goes out. here, take this upvote
literally nobody here read the description.
I've been doing this for about 3 months now and let me tell you, the bitches love me, everybody thinks I'm awesome that I drive with and oh yeah I also don't have a left leg.
lmao
u won man rofl
How dafuq u put it in 1rst gear
Duh obviously turns the car off and cranks it in gear
+Gabriel Lefebvre I live on a hill. Pop starts only for my baby
thumbs up cuz you risked grinding your gears on purpose. sacrifice
2:29 to hear the the gears grind
Heh, all those downvoters must be blind. Can't see the badge in the steering wheel. This kid is doing God's work. All New Minis must die.
+Spartan043 hahahahaha great comment lol.
Spartan043 ahahahahhahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Spartan043 considering its 2005 not very new is it.
a 12 year-old mini isn't new
Fuck new minis
If you have a good feel for your ride, and you properly match the rpm, then clutchless shifting is ok. It's not for noobs. I ran two vehicles that way for over 100000 miles, and never had issues. Truckers do it like that all the time. No - clutching downhill is difficult and risky.
billybbob18 Can be, especially when your brakes fry. Thats why truckers use Engine brakes. Ive been guilty of using my engine as a brake when hauling heavy. Not a good idea in a gasser, but it is funny looking over and seeing people look at you funny as your truck is just popping and just about backfire sounding. Saves the brakes. Should mention, it was an old farm truck that burns oild and everything wrong. Let it blow. Itll just be harvested for parts.
Its very bad for light duty transmissions because moving it out of gear can chip the ends and eventually wear to a point it pops out of gear
jhon doe Loose a clutch and have to limp it home. Then say otherwise. It can take the abuse as ive gone it in anew and older model.
most pepole forget non syncs in this, you HAVE to match the rpm yourself, there the clucth is Kinda only a little help, especcilay in downshift
Man, I can see some scenarios where you can really resort to this skill. Once I was driving and suddenly the pin in my clutch pedal broke and I couldn't fully disengage the clutch. Had to grind little by little to reach the workshop. 💔
you know there's a rumor out there, they say they invented a car that shifts gears all by it self, and you don't have to use clutch at all (i mean there is a clutch but the car uses it for you) , you don't even have to hand shift the freaking thing. i know it sounds impossible and all but i heard it's called "the automatic transmission", but i am sure it's all rumors, nothing real.
Automatics are for pussy's
People who don't enjoy driving for what it is always have some smart ass comments about manual shifting.
So how do you engine break or select a lower gear for corners?
Bedsitdweller Cases like this, I love driving Stick. Having an Automatic Transmission with a Sequential Shifter has my eye, For daily driving and control.
Azooz Shiker well here's a little education for ignorant people like you who don't like research. Stick shifters are better on fuel mileage and have fewer problems with the transmissions. They can also accelerate faster, reason being you can shift when you want for more torque unlike automatic, you'll never see an automatic race car for that reason. Modern cars are mostly automatic but are being made to consume less fuel, but with the cost of a weaker engine.
tl;dr a manual will burn an automatic any day
If you can't find em grind em lol
Andrew Stevens LMFAO I need that on a T shirt
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My dad taught me with my super old car, that you just need to press the stick gently so that it starts rubbing on the synchro, and rev match either up or down to shift, down or up respectively.
It just falls into place without gear grinding. However, it probably wears the shit out of the synchro.
@@eirikrhinnraui4098 lmao, I found this out myself when trying to downshift into first. Push against it, bring the revs up, moment it's in, pop off the clutch. Neato
Andrew Stevens HAHAHA GOLD
Shits pretty useful when a clutchline finna leak. Much appreciated mate.
This video should be renamed " Slap shifting cause i want a Automatic"
lol
A Person And a grammar teacher...
HA
you could use it in emergency situations like clutch cable snapping in the middle of nowhere
but in daily driving don't, the clutch pedal is there for a reason
until you have to stop or start.
been there, done that. When you have to stop you just snap it into neutral, then turn the car off, engage 1st gear. use ignition + gas to get you off the mark and carry on again. :)
Exactly
he says that in the description
It looks like he's driving a big Hot Wheels car haha I didn't know Minis looked so... unappealing inside.
KartKing4ever that interior looks like complete shit. Why the hell is the dashboard so high?
crephotos For the tall people who wouldn't feel like they're in a suitcase when they were younger. Ha ha I tried that.
KartKing4ever I quite like the interior. It's pleasantly unique.
AdamHH11
It is unique, I'll give you that.
KartKing4ever weirdly enough I thought the same, untill I saw it in person. in person, it's actually kinda beautiful (atleast the 2015 models)
This can he handy: You actually can start the car an drive without the clutch at all. Put your gear to 1 start the car and it will be driving immidetily, from their you can shift to 2. Also if you wannw go reverse, shut down your enige, put it in R and start up again! Be warned you will be immidetly start driving backwards
poorly in most cars nowdays, you NEED to press the clutch, for the ignition to turn
@@thetrabantguy3934 But if your clutch is out it'll still engage the switch so the car thinks you're engaging it.
this is what is called floating your gears, this IS HOW you drive a manual semi truck bur I would not recommend doing it on a car because you will wear out your syncros pretty quick.
Yup, all though nice to know in case the clutch master/slave cylinder goes out
@@onelyone6976 i think you wouldn't even be able to drive the car when that occurs
@@lukesepter3250 yeah you would, just clutchless
@@crapcopter yes but how would you start from a standstill. Most modern won't start without pressing the clutch as a safety measure, so moving off would be impossible
@@lukesepter3250 If your clutch is completely cooked then pressing the pedal to let the car start will work. And the engine would still be connected to the transmission spinning the wheels
I used to do this with my 98 ford explorer sport. I happened to figure out how to do it as I was experimenting on how far the clutch needed to be pushed in to change gears since it had such a far travel range. I then realized I could slide it in gear by simply rev matching and I became pretty good at it. No grinding or studdering at all. The truck had 220,000 Miles on it when I sold it and it was running strong with no issues.
This is correct idk why there are so many thumbs down.. my uncle is a semi truck driver and this is how they shift. Saves the clutch tremendously. Good video.
Pros: slightly less ware on the clutch, physically can't downshift when trying to upshift and vise versa
Cons: takes some practice to do properly
This is only helpful if your left leg is in severe pain and you need to get to the emergency room alone.. Otherwise, why would you do this?! If you don't want a clutch pedal, get a car with paddle shifters or something! This is dangerous and probably fucks up your car really badly
Also if your clutch is broken.
if you clutch is completely broken
***** you have no idea what ur saying
Demetri V Yes, they do.
Dylan Sanderson if the clutch is completely broken u cant start ur car...or u cant get into 1st gear
My uncle (who is a trucker) told me he doesn't use the clutch when shifting. I was dumbfounded, and I had to look this up myself. The thought of it was driving me crazy.
there's a description for a reason people
manual gears have a clutch for a reason... and car computers should be programmed to display "asshole" on the windshield when they detect no-depression on the clutch while driving.
That was too funny.
When you demonstrated "taking too long" to grab the next gear, having not ground it going from 2nd to 3rd (@ 2:20) had every bit as much to do with the fact that you were pushing nearly 3,000 rpm, which gave you a bit more leeway when you took a moment longer to drop it into 3rd. However, when you shifted from 3rd down to 4th, you were only doing 2,200-2,300 rpm, which probably doesn't help. :-P
Anyway, thanks very much for the informative video, it's appreciated! *thumbs up*
Once my friend's firend's Lada had some sort of malfunction and the clutch didn't work anymore. He told that on the right RPM it would almost suck it into gear
@doomer boy lol, happend to me last week and i had to drive through traffic with that 🥲 luckily my truck has a “low” gear
Thank you for that sacrifice
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This was a great video and a good skill to know if my clutch dies. Done professionally with the three cameras and dialogue throughout. I'm a little too afraid to try this myself because that grinding noise is my worst nightmare!
I already knew how to do this but when my flywheel went bad clutchless shifting got me home so idk why everyone's freaking out. Other than him grinding his gears there's nothing wrong with this.
You may not hear the grinding but your actually accelerating the wearing of your synchros in the transmission.
A clutch is used to free the transmition from stress so the gears can shift effortlessly. The exact moment you lift off the gas this is exactly what happens in the box. Engine is no more pushing the gears and the car still hasnt started to decelerate so the wheels are not applying preassure to the drive shaft. You can pull out he gear you are in with the slightest of pushes on the stick. Higher gear with same speed means less revs in the engine needed to maintain velocity. As the revs are falling comes a point at which the engine rpm matches the driveshafts rpm when engaged in higher gear. Again the stick slides in effortlessly.
The fact that you have a very high chance of wrecking the gearbox in the learning process is another thing. It's a very nice trick to try and learn in a triple digit priced car. If executed perfectly it creates absolutely no preassure or friction.
Who has not read the description this is only when your clutch does not work.
You’re an idiot description doesnt say anything neither does the guy simple facts that’s grinding gears. You must drive an automatic
Another time one can use this technique is in case your left foot is disabled. When a wooden board fell on my left ankle and I couldn't use my left foot, I have to learned this on my way home.
Truckers do this shifting all the time due to non-synchronized transmission in their trucks (double clutching is tiresome) which are used for several reasons. The friction material, such as brass, in synchronizers is more prone to wear and breakage than gears, which are forged steel, and the simplicity of the mechanism improves reliability and reduces cost. In the words of one of them: "I never use the clutch unless I'm sittin' at a light and need to shift into gear.
I was taught to "float" when I learned how to drive and have owned many trucks with both air shift and two stick transmissions and have "floated" them all with no damage to the gear boxes."
***** lol, thats what he said, ... "due to non-synchronized transmission" comprehension much?
u lost me
+gurjinder singh yes
+HeHoT BroS Entertainment he is saying float shifting destroys the synchroniser.
Mijc Osis it doesen t u people say that u can drive a manual but u drive a automatic and u give advice u can even start in first gear without a cluch
Because using your left foot takes to much energy
Dekten Suckmycock If your clutch doesn't work then its time to get a new one. Using your brain would be not using the damn car until it you fix it.
HYPERGARAGE
And where in the video did he say that one shouldn't use the clutch? He never said "you shouldn't use the clutch" or "it's much better shifting gears without the clutch".
All he did was giving a piece of advice on how to shift gears without the clutch, obviously for situations if or when you can't use the clutch.
Nothing special . I do it all time, I don't like use clutch, it's
useless anyway, only for girls and gays. matching revs is like shooting
in the middle of the target all the time. What a peasure ! and my left foot is too busy while braking when shifting down. I like braking and accelerating at the same time
+maladsyko you mean you like wasting fuel?
+Dekten Suckmycock why are you taking your vehicle on the road if the clutch doesn't work🙄idiot
When the gears grinded it actually hurt for me
Then drive a Nonsync ;)
Thanks for the little 'sacrifice' there mate.
You know what really grinds my gears?
hahahah god dammit
i did this when my car had a broken pressure plate ,i droved it one week with the pressure plate snapped in half ,it wouldn`t get in 1`st gear from stand still and the gears would grind a lot ,but after i changed the clutch it still works perfectly and the gear box it`s fine too
I learned to drive like this while working on semi trucks. Been doing it in my 95' ranger for the last 125k miles and the stock clutch is going strong at 180k. If your smooth about it it's better for the transmission in my experience.
You are right.
It's a shame that many people here don't know what they are talking about.
i found this trick on accident after driving around... my clutch master cylinder leaks... soooooo to not loose allll the fluid... i drove like this, truck actually shifted smooth. (87 4runner.)
did anyone of you read the description? it's like taking a test without reading the instructions, underlining the wrong letter instead of encircling the right one. "double wrong" hahahaha.
You can write funny comments about it but dude, no reason to dislike it ? Its actually a interesting video and he never said to not use the clutch
3:19 When down shifting, can you "over rev" a bit & let it drop?
So you then treat it as if it was a regular shift up instead.
Exactly. It's easier to hit the sweet spot when the rpm's are dropping, because they always drop at the same rate, as opposed to when you're revving up, where you'll not always manage to rev up with the same amount of throttle.
Notice right at 3:19 the car is at about 3000rpm and once it’s fully in gear it drops to 2800 or so, which makes sense
this guy means well, read description.
everyon is just jelly that this kid has a better feel for his car than any of them ever will XD
I watched this video in 2012 and at that time i had a 5 speed bmw 325i. I successfully did it and had a lot of fun! But take note, this method isnt for the idiots who don't have patience and dont wanna use their brains to figure which rpm range will free the "wall" into the next gear. Transmission was as strong as i got it.
I was sliding into to gears like butter and doing it faster than using a clutch! Sold the car in 2015. I haven't tried it since then....i think its because my balls grew smaller 😅😅😂 when i get this 6 speef STI transmission though, 😈 its on!
I'm looking at getting a Subaru how does clutchless shifting feel on them?
... ffs...
i’d highly recommend against clutchless shifting an STi trans… they’re glass even when you DO use the clutch. lmao
Truckers do this all the time, they call it floating gears. They also have to rev match because their transmissions don't have synchromesh. With those trucks lasting 10 times longer than a normal car, can anyone with a mechanical or engineering degree or profession tell me why this could be bad for your car, aside from grinding gears?
+Eric Fixalot Truckers only do it because they have shifted their truck sooo many times they know where all of the shift points are, exactly. If you can reliably shift without the clutch by perfectly rev matching, then go for it. There's no reason to have a clutch at that point aside from 1st and reverse. Otherwise, you will be putting unnecessary stress on your synchros, and every time you grind those gears you are adding little iron filings into your transmission lube, which isn't changed all that often in a standard passenger car.
+Eric Fixalot You should also note, that truckers have closer gear ratios and its easier to judge a small drop or rise in rpm then it is a large one. It'll be the same for your car. 3rd to 4th is easier than 1st to second. If you've never tried it, use the higher gears first, and work your way down, as it feels more comfortable. But again, you better be in tune with your car to begin with.
I'd also like to add, trucks have much larger gears (in diameter) turning slower rpm. They're more heavy duty and aren't moving as fast causing less wear.
You're right, some vehicles (like the VW Jetta for instance) won't shift without the clutch on the first 2 gears. After that it's okay to say as long as you know your vehicle and its gears then you don't be grinding gears (or stalling).
Mishala Ibarra All cars can shift without the clutch unless they have some sort of protection system. Not sure what the deal is with yours.
+s0ggyrice Thanks man! I actually watched this video like a year ago and guess what happened today?? My clutch cable broke! I remembered most of your advice and got home safe! (drove for about 25kms)
I actually managed to get going from stopped by engaging first gear with the motor off and then starting the car whilst accelerating (It's a diesel car). I only did this as i was in a dangerous situation (i do not recommend doing this if you can avoid it...)
This video is actually pretty useful. My slave cylinder blew out and I had to use this technique to get the car home. The clutch was completely gone and i couldn't get the car home without doing this. Would've had to tow it.
R.I.P. Here lies the synchros of those who were stupid enough to do this.
Nick Mandolfo all the people who can't do it right obviously
as ironic as it is doing this properly won't wear the synchros, will cause less clutch wear and less gearbox wear. Some truck drivers have to do it because they have no synchromesh boxes (I think they're supposed to be tougher). I do rev match when driving but I always use the clutch in case I fuck up, it just means that because I rev match each change is really smooth.
Nick Mandolfo in trucks you only use the clutch to stop and go. Otherwise you don't touch the pedal
Nick Mandolfo OK but how do those big trucks shift w/o clutch
no synchros
This worked in mom's corolla with a 2 petals..neat job!
I saw your comment in the other video!!!:D
truckers do this all the time. ( millions of miles). it saves the clutch and it works just fine ladies
Ah...the main difference between manual and automatic is in the clutch. If we don't want to get busy clutching in/out, we'd better drive an auto or semi-auto car. Like the author has said, it's enough to know clutchless method is possible as long as we can do correctly; it might be useful in extreme condition such as when the clutch slips. For most cases, we should use clutch as it will make the work of the gear selector components easier.
don't do it this is a stupid thing to try it will mess up your clutch and transmission
no I don't believe so
It will not do anything with your clutch. lol The only time when this is useful is when your clutch is completely gone and still have to drive to let's say the mechanic.
you don't say ?
Janos Molnar Not so much. When your clutch is worn out the pressure plate won't have the holding power to transfer the power to the driveshaft without slipping.. So your car will just rev like it were in neutral with a totally SHOT (worn out) clutch.. Now, if people are smart they don't drive on a terribly worn/slipping clutch and replace it before it becomes undriveable..
not if you do it properly, I've been doing it for years and my transmission is good as when i first got it
Every one is talking about don't shift gears without clutch and this video is useful because when your clutch or clutch cable is broken and there is no machinic service around your area that's when you need this
good vid, fuck the haters, sometimes this is necessary but can be alot harder on older vehicle. Starting from standing is rather tricky though and dosen't do much good to the starter haha
For anyone wondering why this is useful to know, racers like Senna were known to use this to their advantage. It does make you faster if you're good at it.
Good video bro. I hope most of the idiots didn't read the description of this video.
Only do this if your having clutch problems and absolutly have to drive. It will fuck up your transmission.
what is the point of this
I've had to use this technique before when my master cylinder went out. THAT is the point of this.
The point is to save your clutch. Clutch can last forever if you use this technique. Big Rig Drivers uses this technique.
if you hit rpms perfectly you can perserve clutch forever anyway
Leearnest Jones Apparently you're not into technical things, right? First, some heavy duty vehicle don't have syncromesh in transmission, so it's ok in those vehicles to drive without clutch if know how to do it. Now when it comes to normal everyday cars with manual transmission, it's 100% sure that it's transmission will have syncromesh. Now if you're shifting in those without clutch, syncromesh material will wear off fast and your transmission oil is now fouled with that material. That will without any question shorten your transmission life. Syncromesh repair will cost about 10 times the amount that clutch assembly change will do.
So please, don't give people that kind of ideas that it's ok to drive without clutch.
However it's good to know how you're supposed to change without a clutch if own manual transmission car, if ie. your clutch wire fails. But on normal everyday driving. Use that clutch.
jothain thank you, tired of seeing stupid advice about not using a clutch from people who dont know anything about a manual transmission or how their syncros work.
By their logic because trucks double clutch due to no or bad syncros, we should too.
This is how I got my car home after clutch cable broke. The only catch was, to move from a stop I had to start the car in gear. I was impressed with my starter motor though!
Just use the clutch....
How to shift without the clutch OR gearstick:
Pull the lever on the door, and open it. Press the button on the seatbelt buckle and remove straps from body. Remove self from car and open the door of Grandma's car. Place seatbelt on, press the breaks and shift gearstick to D. Simple!
Will get you through a squirrelly situation if your clutch has gone to shit. And on the other end of things, when the clutch works but your battery or alternator has failed you, popping your clutch while in first will get the damn thing up and moving for a bit. Comes in handy if stalled in the road or you're not too far from wherever you're going. This is why a manual is the way to go.
READ THE DESCRIPTION FIRST PLEASE. I am not responsible for anything that happens to your car if you try this. I actually do not recommend doing it but its nice to know.
Many people seem to be getting the wrong idea for this video. I am NOT telling you to not to use your clutch. This video is just to show how to shift without the clutch if the time comes when you need to use this. If your clutch goes out you might need to use this. This technique is potentially hazardous to your car. So if youre going to post a comment about how bad it is and just use the clutch, please dont post a comment. Some people want to know how to do it and that it is possible. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THIS OR TO NEGLECT YOUR CLUTCH. I KNOW HOW TO SHIFT WITHOUT THE CLUTCH, IT DOES NOT MEAN I DO THIS WITH EVERY SHIFT I DO. IN FACT I HAVENT DONE THIS SINCE I MADE THE VIDEO.
"How to fuck your gears up" (drilling holes in your wallet)
yeah good idea, don't yuse the clutch and the gear box is destroyed
Actually if you don't grind it and mostly do it right, the only real thing being destroyed is the synchromesh
you can burn down the clutch to, because in a sport car is the clutch difrent
Piotr Borkowski How is a clutch different in a sports car? Also If you match up the Revs and it slots into gear easily (ie. You could do it without synchro), the clutch isn't going to get damaged. It's literally doing nothing. You could have no clutch (Output shaft straight to gearbox) and you could still shift if you get it right
SoundPon3 Because some have double plates
Bunta Fujiwara Double plates don't really help his argument that much....
I used to do this with my 06 GMC Sierra. My transmission was a wide ratio trans where as this car has a close ratio. The wide rario transmissions need more time to drop RPM given that the gear ratio changes are a bit steeper of a drop. My dads been a semi mechanic for over 30 years now and hes driven plenty of them. This is a must technique on semi trucks and he showed me how to do it on my pickup and I did it a lot to impress my friends. Its a lot of fun till ya grind a gear. Great tutorial BTW
what the heck is that giant ass gauge in the middle of the car?
It's called a speedometer
Jacob S how many speedometers does he have? I've never seen a dashboard that looks like that.
SALO or The 120 Days of Sodom: I can't eat rice with my hands like this... Then eat Isht! The one directly in front of him is a tachometer and yes, it's quite a unique setup but it's standard for a mini cooper.
Jacob S Ohh ok thanks for the info
Jacob S pretty fugly design.. too bad cuz the original mini is pretty cool
Left a negative comment years ago, didn't even know what floating gears was much less how do it back then, learned and seen alot since. Not sure why some would post hateful comments on a now near decade old video. As you said in the description, not saying go out an float your gears with your synchromesh transmission (though I've seen some do it regularly with no issues after years) but it's good to have the skill and knowledge to be able to. Most commenting couldn't do this without grinding.
next tiem you will make a video tell me so i can make a company and become rich by selling transmissions
I did it once. I immediately realised I forgot to use the clutch and was surprised that I changed the gear smoothly anyway. I probably was fortunate to have my leg ideally on the gas pedal while quickly upshifting.
You know what really grinds my gears? 2:30
I learned this technique from a trucker. After your foot remembers throttle positioning for the correct Rpms for each gear; shifting like this becomes 2nd nature.
Best way to pop it out of gear is don't let out on the gass out a little pressure on the shifter as you let off the gass and once it gets to the point to where your not engine braking or putting any power to the wheels it will slide out just like you had the clutch in
How to destroy your synchros in 5 easy steps!
What if the car doesn't have synchromesh device in the gearbox ? Imo, this method still hampers the work of gear selector components : rods, gates and forks as well as gearwheels.
if you match the revs for each gear properly it wont damage the synchros at all
If one of your clutch cylinders fails or your clutch peddle connector breaks, like it happened to me. This is very good info. Also you don't need the clutch to put it into first gear, you can turn the car off, put it in gear, press the clutch sensor and start the car while in gear.
I gave this a go once...
I thought I was doing it perfectly, but it turns out I was using the clutch without realizing.
It's such a habit of using the clutch, that I was using it, even when I wasn't intending to.
Ive been looking for this exact video all day, ive seen it multiple times years ago and ive finally come back across it
I pulled this off without grinding gears in my GTI, this guy did a bad job at explaining it but all you have to do is ease off the throttle, pull on the shifter lightly until it pops into neutral and then rest it against the next gear with light pressure and when the rpms drop enough it will allow you to go into gear
The timing needs to be right to reduce wear on the synchro. It wears the teeth when it grind, but what you don't hear is when you feel the "wall" is the synchro trying to match the speed and wears the "brake". With clutch depressed, the pressure is a lot less for this action. Syncro fails in 2 ways, rounded teeth and worn brake. Doing this clutchless shift again, if you don't do it right, you wear out the brake.
Nicely done... I have to do similar thing in heavy traffic as 1st gear in my 2008 Suzuki Swift 1.3i is not synchronized (I suppose). So to drop from 2nd to 1st i have to drop to neutral, rev up and I push clutch just for a short moment when I jump into 1st. Clicks fine every time no grinding. With practise it's as fast as an another shift. I was forced to find it out the hard way, as I began to drive the car daily to the college... Nothing big for me now, but many people without the car knowledge will really hate that car. To be honest they're right as it's a shame the gearbox was that cheaply designed in 2004...
Wow so many mechanics commenting. The reality is with good technique this doesn't harm your car any more than regular shifting. I shift about 20% of the time without the clutch pedal. My car has 140k miles on it and still has the original factory clutch & trans. The key, of course, is good technique. If you can't reliably shift this way without grinding or applying force to the shifter, just use the pedal.
In the good old days, and I am talking WW2, many cars didn't have synchro gearboxes and the only way to change gear without the gears grinding was to go into neutral between shifts. To go down a gear you would have to go into neutral Rev the engine to 1000 more revs than it was in the previous gear before engaging. It was called double de clutch. Rally drivers have used this a lot in helping preserve their gearboxes and clutches from the sudden tremendous power from the engine straining the gearbox. In essence you are trying to match the gearbox speed to the engine speed. Get it right and it's a satisfying way to change gear when driving very fast. A great example of double de clutch is Steve McQueen driving the mustang in bullit.