Our favourite Electric Cars! Brilliant features we love and what WE would buy. Best used EV?
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2023
- Merry Christmas 2023
Me and Gints sit down and chat about some of our favourite EVs. What electric cars did we like that we drove this year, what are some of our favourite features?
What would we buy for a budget up to £10,000 , £20,000 , £30,000 , £40,000 , £50,000+
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I work for a well known EV manufacturer and can honestly say, having driven a lot of EV’s from different manufacturers, a refresh model 3 LR is borderline the perfect vehicle imo. Solid range, solid performance, solid tech with an amazing sound system, the best charging network with a 99.5% up time. Add that to the price you can pick them up for now…….good luck to all the other manufacturers lol. There are some other awesome EV’s don’t get me wrong, but at that price point……no competition.
100%
So you aren’t too bothered about what I consider to be, dangerous indicator design? I would go for the new M3, but not with those indicator buttons. Shame really.
@@neilfennell6833and yet those who have bought them don’t appear to agree…
@@neilfennell6833 “what you consider”. You’ve just proven your own point…….its personal opinion. Personally, I don’t consider them dangerous whatsoever. The perfect design?……..no. Dangerous? Definitely not.
@@neilfennell6833 I thought they meant the 2021 refresh (ie. when they started coming from China, with the black window trims), since they said 'the price you can pick them up for now....', given the Highland models seem to only be available new, you'd be paying RRP. So it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
I agree, though. The indicators on the Highland are a bit of a turnoff for me. No doubt some enterprising person in Shenzen will come up with a retrofit stalk kit or some such.
2nd hand E-Tron 55 Launch Edition, with everything on it for 40k 3 years old 19k miles. Just as you say great stress less driver, range not brilliant but really quick charging, wouldn’t have anything else. Came with 2nd service and Audi front/rear dash cam.
A big thank you in turn to you and your team for all the informative, entertaining videos over 2023 and being on 2024. Innovation of the year on your channel for me is a tie: reporting on the solar project / used market is one and the look at a week in the workshop was the other. Happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!
Recently picked up our first EV to replace the family cayenne and went for a model x with 6 seats and used your model x buyers guide to help us decide 😉
Bet that looks good
@kierandaley2105 well we're liking it so far 😉
@@leehartshorn1479 ok good🤞
Bought a 2018 Tesla MS P100D in July, have already done 25.000kms in the 6 months, many long distance trips, absolutely LOVE it, performance is just unbelievable, never thought I would love it this much.... Now my all time favourite of the cars I have owned, Mercs/BMWs&/Audis and even beats the love of my car life, the Jaguar XJR X308 and that is saying something... but for day to day practicallity and fun it just wins on every metric.... Let alone on costs eg Fuel/insurance/tax etc (in Austria). Love your channel please keep it up.... And hows the high mile Tesla MS video coming up ;)
MS ❤
My mates x5m had a new headlight - £6k
F me
This is why insurance is going up
I have taken my model Y to 17 countries this year including Bosnia and Herzegovina. Completely trouble free and no issues at charging.
Driving my second hand Model 3 Long Range (2019) since January this year and it has been a fantastic ride :) Great range, great software and audio and the Supercharging network is still unmatched (ease of use as well as price-wise). Thanks guys!
A tiny bit frustrating by Elon Musk, that he could, with a few hundred dollars, make the Model 3 the best value car on the planet.
(1) Indicator Stalks (2) Suspension mods (3) Matrix lights (4) Sunglasses holder. I mean EVERY Motoring Journo mentions the same damn things.
If he fixes those then there's nothing to complain about.
Great channel. Honest unbiased content. Thanks for 2023 content and looking forward to seeing the business continue to grow in 2024. Thanks guys.
15:40. Good shout.
Too many used EV reviews ignore the astonishing 28kWh Ioniq (your picture shows the 38 - not as amazing) It has astonishing efficiency and acceptable range that a 'small battery' easily achieves but it also charges very quickly, so stopping to recharge isn't onerous and makes long trips quite relaxing.
The 38 still achieves over 5.1 miles per kWh in summer, you cant knock that.
There's a strong correlation between your favourites and your current stock list ! Funny that!! lol
looking forward to more great vids in 2024 and happy to see you have lost the cross-dressing sweater !!
Novel way to end the year. Love your output including the solar operation each month. I wish you a happy and prosperous 2024.
Cameras : BMW iX.
-> 360 surround view, which can be remotely accessed on the mobile app
-> High quality image
-> Specific front & rear camera wash cleaning
One of the best used EVs sub £15k for me is the VW eGolf.
I assume it was missed as the sub £10k eGolfs are the older smaller battery versions. And the sub £20k has some good options that do over 200 miles range like the eNiro you mentioned.
But had you of said a sub £15k category as opposed to sub £10k, I think you'd agree the 2019 eGolf with virtual cockpit, heat pump and couple other options is a far better car for most people than a Seat Mii and an electric mini.
My reasons.
1. VW build quality before they started cutting corners and doing haptic buttons.
2. Boot space to fit a labrador.
3. Handles like one of the very best sold cars to date (a Golf), only better still due to it's centre gravity.
4. Great styling and LED lighting all round.
5. Nippy fun little car, but bigger and more practical than the Seat Mii and Mini.
I genuinely believe the eGolf is one of the most underrated EVs in the sub £15k market today. Probably because most people hold onto them and don't want to sell them as much as you see other EVs. Maybe?
Similar to the older Ioniq EV
Thoughts on my opinion Richard?
Merry Christmas all.
Yup, got a 2020 e golf and I’m keeping it. Ace car. Would only trade in for a Tesla m3 now..
The eGolf drawback is short range, air cooled battery. Among advantages is availability of cheap parts, reliability, driving dynamics.
Great year for video's keep up the good wook have a great Christmas and new year looking forward to more video's in 2024
Interesting one about headlights. I had a 2020 Merc gle with full matrix leds. I was constantly flashed by oncoming drivers as they functioned so poorly. Matrix leds on my Kia EV6 are far better … no issues at all with oncoming drivers … works a treat.
Top stuff guys
RSymons has to be the top-rated EV site for real world comparisons from your extensive EV exposure
Cheers
You guys make excellent content. Thank you
Interesting to hear an insiders thoughts on EVs especially those that actually get to use them as a normal punter would. Thanks for all the content and looking forward to see what you have coming in 2024.
I got my 1st EV this year, a Jaguar I Pace HSE, and it's the best car I have driven. Used prices have dropped like a stone, and a great purchase, less than half the original and still under warrantee.
Merry Christmas to you and the team, and keep the videos coming.😎
I'm surprised the I-Pace didn't get a mention in this video. Definitely the best drive I've had, then again I've not been in a Taycan.
Thank you guys. Happy Christmas 😁
Merry Christmas to all of the crew at R Symons, thank you for all you do to show the capability of EV's
Brilliant summary, thanks guys! 👌
That's a nice looking X at the start
Thank you for an amazing year of content and hard work - I always enjoy your uploads seeing the ins and outs of so many EVs presented by those who not only know their stuff but make it entertaining to. Glad the Wind Knife that is the Ioniq 28 got a shout out as your channel is the reason I have one and its amazing! You can now get one for 10k and you can get virtually everything spec wise on the Premium SE which I have and it is more than capable of long drives as I did many this year (ranging from 500 - 1200 mile round trips). Can't wait what 2024 brings us from your channel and EVs in general.
Love the cadburys jumper!
thanks for all the videos this year ....the wife and i are in the market for a model 3 performance this year (24) in jan so cant wait for that :)
One more catagory
Overall ease of use...?
Day to day, including charging.
(Only one winner?)
Our 1st EV, a Tesla Model Y post Range Rover, what a package. Not so keen on the suspension (post air suspension), autopilot/park, lack of door and water ingress to Frunk. Albeit, looking forward to Project Juniper
Happy Christmas fellas,looking forward to you testing the new model 3 👍😉💪
One of the best channels on electric cars around. Merry Christmas and a great new year to you all. Proud to be a subscriber. I only wish you guys were in Australia. Agree with your pick of the refresh M3 long range as the best used choice. Furthermore, as someone who wrote for hi-fi magazines for 10 years - and also has spent many hours in a 2020 model S class Mercedes - the audio system in the premium Teslas is the best I have personally heard in a car.
Hi, thanks for your entertaining vids this year. We are still in love with our M3 LR, but I did have a drive of a new Model S Plaid a couple of weeks ago - absolutely ridiculous and lhd but the biggest problem was that I can’t afford one…
A really enjoyable video for normal people, not just track day hooligans and oligarchs. I've always valued your opinion Richard, you put me straight regarding the modest realistic mileage on the XC40 recharge I bought, which is so excellent in other aspects. (illuminated door handles ha, ha). Our other car, a Tesla M3LR refresh, which you previously sold me the idea on and now with acceleration boost is just a fantastic car. You are single handedly doing so much for the EV transition, please just keep it going.
Happy Christmas, and I hope you have an amazing new year.
Cheers guys. Appreciate the hard work on these during the year. Solar video next - niiice! (I have Ripple wind power powering my ev!)
My favorite is the Tesla Model Y long range. I picked up one on December 31st. The vehicle is amazing! The price was discounted so what a sweet deal. The car does not disappoint either. Thank you for you for your insight and assistance as I worked through the big jump from a gas powered vehicle to electric.
Merry Christmas to you all. Hope Santas sleigh didn’t block the solar panels for too long ;) Wishing you the best for 24. Please keep producing your balanced content - an antidote to wider media sound bites!
BMW iX3 never gets any love on this channel but it having driven all there was on the market in 2021 I still think it was the best choice in this size/price/segment for a family with 2 young kids. 2 yrs and nearly 30k miles on we are still very happy with it.
I love mine too, iX3 M Sport Pro, every gadget and gizmo you can think of!!
Think they get overlooked because they were quite expensive new and well down on power compared to rivals, despite being well equipped. Probably makes for a great used buy
I can't wait for you guys to get your hands on the Tesla Model 3 Highland and do all your test and comparisons. I am currently planning on buying one of them in 2024 and your reviews on it will weigh heavily into my decision whether I buy that or a Model Y. Thank you for all the content you guys have provided, both informative and entertaining. Can't wait to see what you bring us in 2024.
Cheers guys
Enjoyed all your videos this year - looking forward to 2024 - happy new year to all as RSV
I have a mini electric - really fun car for nipping around, great handling and I usually get 120 miles as well - main issue for me with a dog is it’s too small for long journeys
Also have an ix3 - not in your list - but comfortable, range ok (230-280 miles) , physical buttons which we prefer , and good space with practical square boot (why we bought it rather than an i4 )
Both cars have been fault free after almost 3 and 2 years respectively (apart from the mini that was delivered with an empty ac system - quickly rectified by a local dealer)
Planning on keeping both for a few more years before needing your services for a replacement 😊
I’ve got 70 plate e Up! that had 3 months. Need fully charged via wallbox and slightly warmer weather we’ve had to manage work for week (around 80 miles) without needing a charge. When picked up had projected range with air con off of 182 miles so that’ll make a big difference next summer. Wouldn’t mind Tesla Model 3 Long Range if £20k.
Love your videos just stay as you are...
Nice video and all the best to all of you 😜👍
Love my 2021 model 3 refresh standard range i bought in june. So damn happy with it.
Hi. Great content. Thanks. Quick question on the model 3. Had mine two weeks and love it! Have one minor issue though on the windows. They “crack” and pop a little over bumps. Where the glass touches the rubber seals. Is this a thing or do the windows need adjusting? Huge thanks.
Having a great headlight is wonderful but I find trying to find the indicator light in an on-coming vehicle can be really difficult.
Another great video.
How refreshing to hear such positive news about a 100K miles EV and a 10-11% loss in battery performance.
3rd party battery warranties are important for long term confidence.
I didn’t know Elon said expect 3-500K miles on these batteries.
3rd party battery replacement and repair is possible. It would be good to do a feature on this.
Tesla has really nailed it.
Thank you.
Merry Christmas all. I’m looking forward to your 100K review. If possible can you show how many rapid charges it’s had etc.
Merry Christmas Best regards Martin
Brilliant video what about the size of the rear indicators very small now.
Thank you for the unbiased reviews and real world tests. We have a 2017 used Tesla MS100D from Tesla as used. Tons of problems. Spent almost 10kUSD on fixing the car and it still has some issues... Our old rear wheel drive Model S60 has been a great car. Purchased from Tesla back in 2017. We got rear ended and had to sell it after due to water leaks. Service here in NJ is getting really poor.
Merry Christmas to you all and thanks for all your videos over the year. I've learnt a lot from your insights and love the solar panel round ups.
Hoping to move to an EV this year. You guys make it very hard not to just buy a Tesla. 😂
I have a 2021 seat mii. It makes driving round the city fun and would highly recommend. Range is 150 miles in winter if no heating used but only 100 if you switch it on. The charge speed is 3.7kwph using ohme charger. I can’t get a clear answer on whether that is correct or should charge at 7.5kwph. Anyhow, I am having the charge port replaced under warranty to see if that solves it.
Love the video thanks. I would be interested to hear what you guys think of the Cupra Born. 58 kw E boost. ! We’ve had one for just over a year now and done about 10,000 miles. I know Richard’s wife has an ID3 so probably considered the Cupra Born. Thanks, Kevin in Nottingham .
If you can find one, the Dec 21 standard range plus which has the 62.5 kWh LFP batteries and the performance rear motor. 3D6. The “unicorn” model with real world 0-65 of 5.4 seconds, like having the performance upgrade for free. Australia, New Zealand and ? UK, and some lHd Middle East markets.
Richard, if you want to borrow my MG4 X power for the day, please just ask. You'll love it.
That’s very generous of you. Merry Christmas 🎉
Have a 2019 e-golf with 75000 on it. So comfortable to drive and doesn’t loose range as you drive like my wife’s newer D.S.3 Cross back.
Brought it New. Don’t really want to sell it. Might have to when the Battery warranty expires.
Hi Guys I jave a 2023 Skoda Enyaq Coupe VRS and some features I love about it are the panoramic glass roof the crystal face and as it is my first ev the emount of grip from it in the wet and I have had it almost a year now and the burst of acceleration still stuns me
best of the season to all at RSEV..........did you drive the Q4? opinions? you didnt mention the Macan EV for 24 but love the Taycan, interesting.
Really enjoyed this, as with all your videos. I think the jump from 10 grand to 20 was a bit big, maybe chuck a 15 in there next time. It just happens to be the bracket where my budget lives. One area you could add also would be general controls. Both my EVs have had the old style auto shift levers and I hate them with a passion. They are illogical even on an ICE car, but make even less sense on an EV. Big up for the i3 and ID style lever. Also, oft accessed controls such as h/vac and indicators. I'm seeing road tests now on the Highland model 3 and really can't see how buttons on the steering wheel can work when you need to change direction with the wheel twirling around. Can't wait for your opinion on those. Happy and prosperous new year to you.
One the 3 go to EV reviewers
Thanks fellas, hope you all had a great break. I'm interested in the MG4 trim refresh, that's been leaked to happen in 2024. It's the aspect which lets the car down a bit, at the moment. Extended Range RWD mid-size is the sweet-spot in the market for me, and where I'll be looking when my current TM3 lease finishes in a couple of yrs. I'd also like to see the ID.3 eventually include the more powerful & efficient rear motor that's going into the updated ID.4. 2 yrs can see a lot of changes happen, maybe even the Return of the Stalk to European Model 3's? 🤔
I’m still baffled with the obsession with range. It’s all anyone talks about.
I'm surprised you never mentioned charging ( or did I miss it ). Quickest vehicle to charge, not to mention the virtual hassle free Tesla charging network. A Merry Christmas to all at RSEV.
Merry Christmas to you and a very happy, prosperous and peaceful 2024. I have a BMW i3 - which I love - but not as much as the Tesla that I don’t yet own. My only worry is that the ride quality in the TM3 is worse than the BMW i3 😂. Is that possible?
I have had 13 or so EVs since 2007 and agrre the audi etron 55 has grown on me and charges amazingly fast- a flat charging curve at 150kw and super comfy and when i bought my two year old was same price as 2 year model 3 sr plus. I am waiting for taycan to come to £40k and would get one of those
Great vlog indeed and so for me. My 30kw leaf suffered badly in cold weather early December. Range went right down and chargers speed too. So now back to petrol but as I use it to deliver for Amazon fuel costs are thru the roof. So looking around the mii or ioniq 28/38 or the new Zoe for around 10/11k. Out of those four which would you recommend ?
Best wishes for the new year to you all. 🎉
Just to chip in...
Richard and his Team did a series of 3 videos on (at the time...) £15k used EVs - 30kWh Leaf, Ioniq 28 and Zoe ZE40 - go check those out.
As for your shortlist...
Of those, the Zoe would definitely go the furthest per charge - if your body fits the "non-height-adjustable seat + rake-only steering wheel" combination, then it actually drives really nicely... quite go-kart-y... but rattly trims put me off.
The Mii is super-efficient giving 5.5-to-6.5 miles/kWh achievable in most conditions. Remember, it doesn't have an infotainment screen - you use your smart-phone instead... which isn't always convenient, for example, if you're using Sat Nav for essential directions, but then a phone call comes in...!
And, whilst I've not driven either the Mii or the Ioniq, owners on the various EV groups I'm in absolutely rave about them.
Hope that helps... 🙂
@@jonathantaylor1998 thanks I did see that vlog. I’ve had a 28 ioniq before after my Tesla and loved it apparently the 28 batteries are bullet proof I quote. So it will be the ioniq.
Do you know if red performance brakes stop shorter than long range brakes on 3 or y or s?
Morning guys
For 2024 I'm excited to see Polestar 4 and Volvo EX30. Fisker Ocean looks great but no idea of arrival in Australia next year.
No mention of the Ariya! Im guessing it simply doesn't stand out in any particular category. Good for: range, kit onboard, boot. But relatively pricey, glitchy, not so good comfort or handling would be my summary.
I don't own one but the Skoda Enyaq always seems a decent family car for the money.
Had a test drive in one. Just seemed a bit dull and slow for an EV - had been driving around in a Zoe up to that point. Also price goes crazy as soon as you put anything on it.
@@AndrewEbling yes I had clocked specs seemed a bit weird. I sat in one immediately next to the ID4 and Audi equivalent and decided I preferred the Skoda interior, but everyone's different on that.
We have multiple at work. The stupid software is the worst. Most annoying is that it shuts of and resets everything if you just open the door. The thing dosen't even rember that you for say have switched of blutooth so the phone dosen't connect to it. They are also incredibly thristy, a little snow and you loose the curise control completly, there is no dumb mode. Just annoying auto crap.
If you for say have open radio list to switch between station it returns to homescreen after some time and you have to use the stupid touch screen to get back to it the list. Give me back the buttons, it's soooo slooow to do things that used to take half a second
Still wouldn’t swap my ID3 Max for any of them , more features than most including the new Teslas , flaky software but it still works , fits my needs and budget perfectly. Looking forward to the ID2 !
Yet the new model 3 can get another 61 miles with only 2kWH of extra battery,has better efficiency,better software,cheaper public charging ,faster charging,just about all aspects of the ID3 Max trumped ,better features you say ?bring on model 2😉.
Shame the interior is made from the same material as my wheely bin. I’ve sat in Vauxhalls with better quality materials than the ID3, sorry,
@@alancobbin I need the hatchback not the range or fast public charging, I like Apple CarPlay matrix lights HUD DCC parking sensors that work all of which can’t be found on Tesla 3s
Efficiency is more than adequate for my needs , like I said it fits my needs and I wouldn’t swap it
Get it now ?
@@DeanoEV60 no need to be sorry I’m ok with it and the fact it’s not made by dog eaters ;)
@@kbsub you can’t say that. I’d delete that comment would be my advice.
I was disappointed the id buzz didn't appear in any category. As I have one 🤣
Taycan turbo S, what a car! A comfortable cruiser or a ballistic missile dependant on your mood😊
Hope u got Cadbury's to sponsor u for wearing that jumpler😁😁£££££$$$$$
Waiting for your review on the new highland model 3?
in yellow
So never getting working matrix headlights on my '23 Y... 😢
I’ve been tempted to dive into the EV world with a 2020 E-Golf. Can get one now for around £12k. Just making sure it’s good for my 65mile motorway daily commute.
Thats a real "NO DAD!" jumper😁
Porsche's service has been bad. The Heater failed on mine and they say at least 2 months before I will get it back. Still in at the moment.
One more question: What would you buy: In warrantee vs. Out of warrantee?
What's a jumper that people wear? A sweater vest? A sweater?
The BIG problem with Tesla software is those features which are omitted from Voice Control. My real bugbear is that I cannot voice operate the fog lights. At the one time I really need to look ahead, I have to fumble about on the screen (into a sort of sub menu) to get the gog lights on. To add insult, the error message says 'That command not implemented yet' , so the car recognises the command, but cant do it, despite the fact that it can voice operate the charge port flap using a ridiculous voice command. All the features you might need to access while driving that are safety related ought to be voice controllable. Rant mode off.
Worth tweeting @tesla and @elonmusk with things like that. They do take note when there are repeated requests.
It's had the same fail message for nearly four years now.
There are a couple of options that help (but don't fix):
Tap on the headlight icon on the screen and the light menu comes up on the same place - not good, but only two taps required. Pulling the stalk to flash the headlights also brings the menu up. Other option: you can now program the left hand scroll wheel on the steering wheel. If you live somewhere foggy, it might be worth setting that.
genesis GV70 up there with the merc and audi but fraction of the price a great ev
This looks alright
MG's new eHS electric crossover said to rival Tesla Model Y & BYD Sea Lion
The Electric Viking
You forgot the category for best Jumper!
Do you take ICE vehicles in part exchange for an EV purchase? Fancying a Model 3. Thanks.
They have done on previous videos
For the ride quality, I'm guessing you 2 haven't driven an E-C4 yet (on the channel)?
Most agree that the Stellantis cars are underwhelming. The value for the money is poor.
Happy days 😂
There's been so many untruths told in the media this year about evs, and especially Tesals. I've given up trying to defend ev ownership, and trying to convince people of ev advantages. My long range 71 plate model 3 is absolutely by far the best car I've ever owned, and I feel like I'm driving around inside a magic bubble.
I would have given the mg5 a mention for practicality, a 5 seater estate ev??
Another belter & what are your thoughts with the BYD brand as they look like they will give a Tesla a run for their money
A 2020 M3P for 25k with reasonable miles is surely one of the best and cheapest ways to obtain 500hp + out the box for any car, not just an EV?
100% agree and love mine! Even under 30k I’d go for this over the LR.
@@dancetranceandmore9913 0-60 in low 3s doesn’t get boring does it. Feels as savage today as the day I got it. Love it. Just missing a few bits from the refresh but for the price difference, I’ll live…
100% never does! I love the way it just seems to do everything well! It does need a bigger leap to justify the price difference. 🎉❤
No mention of the Mustang Mach-E ...great car, love mine ..
Ps I hope you were getting paid for waring that jumper... it is horrendous 😂
I would wait for tesla y juniper update.