Hi, It's Jesse here, I am one of the Managers at Trains & Such in Calgary where you got this loco from. Thank you for the business, I test all of our used engines and due to time constraints on how much product we go through, sometimes I can't fix everything right away, so I price it with a good value so that others can get a great deal as well. So this engine is very cool, I had it in the back for quite some time awaiting to get to it, but no no avail on my time, I decided to put it out and literally you found it within a few days!. However I do mark quite a few engines that just need some easy TLC as projects etc.. because I hope that people like yourself will do exactly this with them. I am very happy on the outcome on this locomotive and the great work you did. I myself am also a collector of vintage Varney/atheran/lionel/bowser/penn line etc.. HO products. So if you ever need any parts, I do keep a special area in my collections area in the back for these. I see so much stuff, especially over the last 20 years of doing this that I know what's really hard to find. So I keep a special stash to keep some older units going and parts. When you are in town again in Calgary I would like to meet up with you and give you an extended tour. Thank you for keeping the model railroading spirit alive.
Thanks for your comment. I can say without a doubt your store is the best train stop I've been to so far. The selection, variety of scales, the prices and customer service were all excellent. I assume you've already seen the tour I did while I was there. If I go back to Calgary, I'd be more than happy to visit
When I buy pre-owned engines I totally strip them down and I use gun scrubber to remove all oil and grease then I let it all dry and reassemble the engine. Thank you Harrison for puting these videos out because of your videos that how I got started in to servicing all my engines I'm also keeping maintenance records on all my engines and rolling stock. Thank you And yes I do Relubricate the drive train and all necessary components. 😏
It takes time to do so if I sell them I can say that yes it only has 3 hrs or yes it has 200 hrs run time I'm hoping that it will affect the price if I do sell them 99.9%of my rolling stock are from the mid to late 30 to about mid 1960s 50/40 ft single and dbl door Bx cars all metal and dicast. And 1 or 2 all wood cars.
You did it ! I myself are restoring an AHM - Rivarossi HO , C&O Hudson, bought new in AHC (America Hobby Center in NYC ) in 1981 for $53.95 USD I appreciate the construction of this model, good detail for the price. The pilot was broke where it attaches to the frame, I mange to put a support for the pilot, it is holding better, and built a ladder that was missing on the engineer side. One of the two driver wheels picking up current, is not doing so. I have to do something. But so far, with a little patience it will work again. Used to be a good runner. It deserves to be taken care.
When I last watch this video I've been looking for a Southern Pacific Cab Forward and two days ago I was at an antique store in my home town going through someone's old train stuff and found a Southern Pacific Cab Forward for $30 No:4272 just like yours smt. Your video was a big help so I could fix my new engine I hope your is doing just fine.
Didn’t you hear me yelling at the screen when you were searching for the screws? I’ve taken a few if these Rivarossi articulateds apart over the decades. This one looks like it was never run, or spent very little time running. I bet it’ll loosen up with more track time. Good excuse for a live stream!
I wish I could have haha. I suspect the shorting issue was probably going on for most of the loco's history which could explain why there isn't much wear on anything.
@@SMTMainline good morning I was watching this video and so that train was rocking . What I have found with my rivarossis the axle that has the gear on it is made out of brass and because where it sits in is square not round it wears an uneven Grove right wear axle sits on what we would call a bearing even though it's not it's just a square cut out bad design unfortunately. It causes axle to wobble. Every time I see one for sale I buy it even if it's for a different rivarossi they are all the same spline gear I just swap axle and requarter the wheel set. One day I will pull an axle off the wheels and tin the wear spot with solder and sand it round again and see how that works
These things sure are a mission to disassemble! I've had a couple over the past 5 or so years. Very well done for not immediately reaching for your phone and instead hunting down the screws yourself - I decided to find a copy of the parts diagram last time I worked on one of these!
I have the same engine but stripped it for parts for another Rivarossi 2-8-8-2 Norfolk & Western which wobbles as well. I purchased mine back some 50 years ago for around $40. Now today they are way more expensive. Will have to oil mine up and see if it runs as well as yours. Thanks for sharing. Nice video with good information.
SMT, you are brave. I don't have the courage to work on or even attempt to open the components of a complex steam engine. Southern Pacific and Alco would be proud of you!
Thanks so much for this video. I had to repair mine and the only way I was shown now to take the darn thing apart was thanks to your video! I never would have thought that some domes on the top were removable!!!
Thank you for this vid. The first (and last) time I saw this model was way back in the last century in the RIVAROSSI catalogue. I reckon, your model is the only survivor. Nice to see it running again.
Wow, great job. Super challenging. I was watching you tackle this and I was brought back to my high school Calculus class. The teacher was showing us how to solve the problem and I zoned out. By the time I came to, it was solved. In conclusion, just like a hard Calc question, I will never attempt to do what you just accomplished. Bravo.
To be honest I wasn't sure if opening it up was a good idea since it might not be easy to get it back together but I was lucky. Thanks a bunch for your support!
I saw one of these at Sacramento Rail Museum. Coming from the UK, I'd never seen a loco this big before! I was awestruck and have looked for them since. Thanks for showing this. As always, a great repair. Cheers, Jim l
You did a great job sorting this one out, she runs nice-!! I had a friend many years ago who was really good with model train repair, but in this one instance I watched him spend weeks trying to sort out a beautiful but non running big boy model but even though the motor ran out of the chassis he spend forever getting it going, even then it was always glitchy and a real pita - at one point I had to stop him from sending it at warp speed into the concrete basement wall - lol - which was odd because he was usually very paitient but he met his match on that big boy. There was no internet back then so he had little to go on, im sure it was repairable but not by him-lol Nice job on this really nice model.
Thank You for all the labor in fixing the Cab Forward Model. You have a lot of patience. In real life I thought the railroads should have stayed with the Cab Forward Locomotives instead of going to Diesel right away. It gives the Engineer an excellent view of the tracks forward. The country also has a huge abundance of coal ! Thank You again.
I don't know if you have thought about this or have even done this But make a video in what makes Harrison tick and how you got into doing what you do. Kind of a back ground video.to get to know you better.just train related and maby what ever else that you feel comfortable about sharing. You could bring this up and take a pole.
The old "hidden screw under the body!" It looks like someone bought it new and dropped it and it never got fixed. Nice Cab Forward and good job on the repair!
What a great deal, Harrison! I'm jealous, actually. I'm a HUGE fan of the SP cab-forwards, and getting this one going again....made my mouth water!!! And again - great job on the repair!!!
This makes me wish I still had my Bachmann Santa Fe EMD GP-40 locomotive. I love watching you repair these locomotives. Makes me want to get back into model trains again.
I enjoy watching how you get them running again. This engine brought back memories as a 10 year old, lil older now. How back then a friend and I would go dumpster diving and a hobby shop distributor. We were after control line airplanes. While searching for planes, we would find tons of brass of that brand engine. How ugly we thought back then and discarded it. A few years later I started to get into model RR and HO scale. Oh how to this day I wish I had of grabbed some of those engines. This was around early ‘70’s
Oh I sooooo always wanted one of those, saving out of my first pay-checks as an apprentice I bought a second hand Rivarossi "Big Boy" (I still have it) from a model shop in Blackpool, in the North of England. One of these was on the shelf but out of my price range...
Great job. I remember seeing one in 1951. Th SP used them on the Imperial and the Argonaut ( locals that ran the same rout as the Sunset limited and Golden State) fascinating to watch all the maintenance performed during the stop, lots of lubricating, etc. in 1951 I was 13 living in Douglas Az. Tracks have since been removed and now the Sunset Limited runs from Benson to Wilcox and on to El Paso where I live now. Great video thank you.
I enjoy watching your problem-solving process. You explain it very well. You might consider getting an ultra-sonic cleaner for your running gear and small part cleaning. Thats just my OCD talking. Great video as always.
If I bought one of these things and it didn't work, it would have been an immediate shelf item. The Rivarossi steamers can be rascals at times, too. Great to see you got it running!
ting conditionI got one of these for Christmas in 1972. I still have it. I have also taken it apart and cleaned it. It has maybe a total of one hour on it, so NEW. Thing is, my great grandfather used to engineer the REAL ones of these from Sacramento to Reno back in the day. There is one left in almost operating condition in the California Railroad Museum is Sacramento, completely restored for those who want to see what 1 million pounds of iron and steel steam engine actually looks like. It is a behemoth. TO think my grandmother used to hide under the bench seat until after they got out of the yard and then ride up front with her dad, and then when they stopped to water the tenders, one every 30 cars, she would get out with her 20 gauge shotgun and hunt grouse and then jump in the caboose and cook dinner on the pot bellied stove for the crew, who would then eat it in Reno when they arrived. She was 13. Born in 1903, so you can do the math and date that.... Anyway, thanks for the still down memory lane!
Howdy Harrison, glad to see you are working on the cab fwd. Im up to 17 cab forwards. Ebay specials, 15 didnt run, 10 had broken monkey decks. Become quite efficient at working on these. There is a blogger named Mel that is an expert on Riv cab fwds, search remotoring a cab forward. Very good material! Love your channel SMT.
Kudos, Harrison! A super interesting loco and repair job. Suggestions: 1) Consider getting a “screw grabber” for those hard to reach/hard to replace and start small screws. A low-cost tool I think you’ll love. 2) Now that you’re an expert with taking the Cab Forward apart, how about a video on installing a DCC decoder (with sound) for this terrific loco? I think you’d really be pleased with the result - and the rest of us would learn a lot from you. Given the size of the boiler and tender, there’s plenty of room.
You are an incredible person with these train repairs. I enjoy watching you as you think things through outloud so others can learn from your expanding learning experiences. One of the things I like most is that you do not give up and you service as you go. Another is the excitement you openly show when it runs and gets better as it runs for awhile. You really should get a small dish to put all the small screws, pieces and parts in so that you do not lose...no, so you do not misplace them. 😉 Very satisfying to see it run. Have you ever thought of doing a teaching "live" where questions can be asked as you work on a locomotive/engine? Maybe state to try to keep the questions to pertaining to what you are working on so they do not get way out of hand. Anyway, just a thought. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts. 💕😊💕🤗💕
I’m absolutely flattered by your comment. I try to be honest when working on something I’m not knowledgeable on however if there is something I have advice on, I share it. I have done livestreams featuring repairs small repairs however I like your idea of doing full restorations live, I will keep it in mind. Thanks a bunch for your kind words -Harrison
@@SMTMainline You kind Sir are very welcome. I always enjoy your videos and pass on information to my brother-in-law that I think may help him as he is new to HO scale. He is switching over from N scale. 😊
FUBPO fudged up by previous owner lol. Nice bit of trial an error. Fixed for £0, now that's a good result. Great vid. Great looking engine. Well done mate. 👍
This was very interesting to watch. Congratulations on your success! I had a few Rivarossi locomotives when I was a very young modeler. It’s a good thing I never took one apart because I would have lost more than a handrail!
These videos are very helpful, I had a Rivarossi big boy that didn't run and it is running again cause i watched your videos and troubleshoot the locomotive.
@@T199Productions In America we call vehicles pulled by a locomotive "cars" as in 'box cars' or 'tank cars.' 'Freight cars' is an alternate term. 'Wagons' is a perfectly acceptable word description but not used in America.
@@zeekwolfe6251 I know that, I hust grew up on the Uk dub dub of thomas, we do call them cars on certain occasions but mostly wagons or carriges and vans
Nice work on the Riv Harrison. This is an older video that I have not seen before. I found my self very excited to see if you got it to run and run it did. Good job my friend.
Bought one new in 1968 for $18 (didn't have $30 for a Big Boy). Always ran like it was slightly constipated. Did put an extension on the roundhouse for it. Hope to remoter and add DCC and probably do something about the flange depth.
Well....seeing this convinced me to buy one in fairly rough condition. Gonna have to straighten out the rear truck frame and find a new cab roof for it. Def saving this video for when it arrives to aid in motor troubleshooting when it arrives.
I had to find and borrow a set of original paperwork for the Rivarossi / AHM / later Model Expo Cab Forward before I attempted to dismantle my first one, which I coincidentally bought used for $125 from Trains and Such back in 1979. Trains and Such was still owned by Jim Scott back then (he started the business in 1975, I think, as a fun side business to his FT job as a school teacher). The hours were a couple of evenings 7-10 p.m. a week and Saturdays. It was a modeler's dream shop, with mostly the highest quality new and used items and over 200 new and used brass locomotive on display and for sale (for $200 - $1800) at any given time for us non- rich kids to look at and dream about. Jim and his staff were always friendly and helpful, even with annoying 12 year-olds with mostly empty pockets like myself. My Trains and Such steal of a deal Cab Forward (they were over $275 new even back then) was in like new condition, but the paperwork was missing and the box was in tatters. I still have it today - still in excellent condition, and it runs so well I've often been asked if I re-motored and re-geared it. Nope - just lucky to get a good one out of the box. BTW - there have been a few versions of the Cab Forward drive mechanism - at least 5 I know of. I own at least one of all but the very first version. The shells vary much less - only 2 versions I am sure of. Really, the shells and details remained the same from the sixties to the mid 90's - when the motor was moved from the cab to further into the boiler shell (the so-called "Red-Box" versions). Some are much better mechanically than others. The last "Red Box" has a 5 pole motor and a flywheel drive. Harrison has the mid 80's to early 90's drive with the reduction gearing and the three-pole can motor, which are usually pretty good runners.
Hello smt Mainline I am so glad you have the patience to work on the steam locomotives they are a pain to work on diesels are very easier that is my opinion
I think so to. The only thing that kills them is using the incorrect oil or grease. Also if you don't align the gearbox with the shaft properly it can destroy the gears. People knock those old motors, but they go forever! I much prefer the old Rivarossi compared to the Red box ones. In the old ones the chassis were pressed metal which never dies. The carters were metal. The red box ones may run better and have a good can motor, but they have very fragile plastic components. The chassis are cast. Remember the old Zamak rot? Hope that does not happen to the newer cast chassis I have Red box Big Boy and a Red box mallet 2 8 8 0!
I have this model and have been looking for answers on how to maintain it, being such a large engine it's kinda scary to take it apart. Thank you so much for this video, very insightful!!
this reminds me of the time when i passed up a 60$ yellowstone for some reason :) (i could afford it too but instead i went for a mogul, i have no idea what i was thinking)
Hi, It's Jesse here, I am one of the Managers at Trains & Such in Calgary where you got this loco from. Thank you for the business, I test all of our used engines and due to time constraints on how much product we go through, sometimes I can't fix everything right away, so I price it with a good value so that others can get a great deal as well. So this engine is very cool, I had it in the back for quite some time awaiting to get to it, but no no avail on my time, I decided to put it out and literally you found it within a few days!. However I do mark quite a few engines that just need some easy TLC as projects etc.. because I hope that people like yourself will do exactly this with them. I am very happy on the outcome on this locomotive and the great work you did. I myself am also a collector of vintage Varney/atheran/lionel/bowser/penn line etc.. HO products. So if you ever need any parts, I do keep a special area in my collections area in the back for these. I see so much stuff, especially over the last 20 years of doing this that I know what's really hard to find. So I keep a special stash to keep some older units going and parts. When you are in town again in Calgary I would like to meet up with you and give you an extended tour. Thank you for keeping the model railroading spirit alive.
Thanks for your comment. I can say without a doubt your store is the best train stop I've been to so far. The selection, variety of scales, the prices and customer service were all excellent. I assume you've already seen the tour I did while I was there. If I go back to Calgary, I'd be more than happy to visit
@@SMTMainline Yes I have seen it. Thank you we appreciate it! Let me know if you come to town!
Harrison my friend, you've done it again! Nicely done buddy!!!
I was given one as a thank you gift. It's a nice engine.
When I buy pre-owned engines I totally strip them down and I use gun scrubber to remove all oil and grease then I let it all dry and reassemble the engine.
Thank you Harrison for puting these videos out because of your videos that how I got started in to servicing all my engines I'm also keeping maintenance records on all my engines and rolling stock.
Thank you
And yes I do Relubricate the
drive train and all necessary components. 😏
I appreciate your comment :)
It takes time to do so if I sell them I can say that yes it only has 3 hrs or yes it has 200 hrs run time I'm hoping that it will affect the price if I do sell them 99.9%of my rolling stock are from the mid to late 30 to about mid 1960s 50/40 ft single and dbl door Bx cars all metal and dicast. And 1 or 2 all wood cars.
@6:57 I have one of these that is not running but I have not had time to work on it, so thank you so much for doing this video!
You did it ! I myself are restoring an AHM - Rivarossi HO , C&O Hudson, bought new in AHC (America Hobby Center in NYC ) in 1981 for $53.95 USD
I appreciate the construction of this model, good detail for the price. The pilot was broke where it attaches to the frame, I mange to put a support for the pilot, it is holding better, and built a ladder that was missing on the engineer side. One of the two driver wheels picking up current, is not doing so. I have to do something. But so far, with a little patience it will work again. Used to be a good runner. It deserves to be taken care.
When I last watch this video I've been looking for a Southern Pacific Cab Forward and two days ago I was at an antique store in my home town going through someone's old train stuff and found a Southern Pacific Cab Forward for $30 No:4272 just like yours smt. Your video was a big help so I could fix my new engine I hope your is doing just fine.
Didn’t you hear me yelling at the screen when you were searching for the screws? I’ve taken a few if these Rivarossi articulateds apart over the decades. This one looks like it was never run, or spent very little time running. I bet it’ll loosen up with more track time. Good excuse for a live stream!
I wish I could have haha. I suspect the shorting issue was probably going on for most of the loco's history which could explain why there isn't much wear on anything.
LOL 😂😂
@@SMTMainline hey can you give me some tips on ho trains I am starting I have a plastic shell sr3 Wich stutters not sure if it is the loco or track
@@SMTMainline good morning I was watching this video and so that train was rocking . What I have found with my rivarossis the axle that has the gear on it is made out of brass and because where it sits in is square not round it wears an uneven Grove right wear axle sits on what we would call a bearing even though it's not it's just a square cut out bad design unfortunately. It causes axle to wobble. Every time I see one for sale I buy it even if it's for a different rivarossi they are all the same spline gear I just swap axle and requarter the wheel set. One day I will pull an axle off the wheels and tin the wear spot with solder and sand it round again and see how that works
Yee haw! I have three of them my uncle Lance left me that I have to refurbished and am now more confident that I can.
These things sure are a mission to disassemble! I've had a couple over the past 5 or so years. Very well done for not immediately reaching for your phone and instead hunting down the screws yourself - I decided to find a copy of the parts diagram last time I worked on one of these!
I just bought one of these off of ebay a couple days ago, never worked on one. This is really good timing!
Now we just need a cab forward and big boy double header
Train Master - I's been done, back in the Sixties we had a club member who liked BBIIIGGG engines!
I think even he would say he would or wouldn't do it and the fact is because the motor on either prob runs different speeds etc. Alot of load there.
@@mercuryoak2 don't forget different gearing and different motor as well as different start voltages and different behaviors.
@@steamier4472 I wasn't I was making a general statement
Nice save by getting that engine running. Nice to see someone fix these things and it gives es me hope that I could as well
Thank you!
@@SMTMainline Why does it run backwards?
@@heidinoth9405 I’m not sure?
I have the same engine but stripped it for parts for another Rivarossi 2-8-8-2 Norfolk & Western which wobbles as well. I purchased mine back some 50 years ago for around $40. Now today they are way more expensive. Will have to oil mine up and see if it runs as well as yours. Thanks for sharing. Nice video with good information.
SMT, you are brave. I don't have the courage to work on or even attempt to open the components of a complex steam engine. Southern Pacific and Alco would be proud of you!
It wasn't as complicated as I expected (minus opening the shell) lol
Thanks so much for this video. I had to repair mine and the only way I was shown now to take the darn thing apart was thanks to your video! I never would have thought that some domes on the top were removable!!!
Real Good Harrison nice piece to your collection!!!
GREAT fix! Fun to watch you puzzle your way in!
Bel video. Mi piace molto la Cabforward. 👍 great video. I like so much cabforward 👍
Those are fun. I need to pick one more of those up to make my Baldwin Quadraplex
Thank you for this vid. The first (and last) time I saw this model was way back in the last century in the RIVAROSSI catalogue. I reckon, your model is the only survivor. Nice to see it running again.
I've seen a couple out there but unfortunately many have zinc pest.
Wow, great job. Super challenging. I was watching you tackle this and I was brought back to my high school Calculus class. The teacher was showing us how to solve the problem and I zoned out. By the time I came to, it was solved. In conclusion, just like a hard Calc question, I will never attempt to do what you just accomplished. Bravo.
To be honest I wasn't sure if opening it up was a good idea since it might not be easy to get it back together but I was lucky. Thanks a bunch for your support!
I admire your persistence and skill. Great job.
I saw one of these at Sacramento Rail Museum. Coming from the UK, I'd never seen a loco this big before! I was awestruck and have looked for them since. Thanks for showing this. As always, a great repair. Cheers, Jim l
You did a great job sorting this one out, she runs nice-!! I had a friend many years ago who was really good with model train repair, but in this one instance I watched him spend weeks trying to sort out a beautiful but non running big boy model but even though the motor ran out of the chassis he spend forever getting it going, even then it was always glitchy and a real pita - at one point I had to stop him from sending it at warp speed into the concrete basement wall - lol - which was odd because he was usually very paitient but he met his match on that big boy. There was no internet back then so he had little to go on, im sure it was repairable but not by him-lol Nice job on this really nice model.
Thank You for all the labor in fixing the Cab Forward Model. You have a lot of patience. In real life I thought the railroads should have stayed with the Cab Forward Locomotives instead of going to Diesel right away. It gives the Engineer an excellent view of the tracks forward. The country also has a huge abundance of coal ! Thank You again.
Wow, you have some patience. I would have given up quickly, put the loco on the display rack and called it day. Job well done as usual!
Thanks a bunch!
I don't know if you have thought about this or have even done this
But make a video in what makes Harrison tick and how you got into doing what you do. Kind of a back ground video.to get to know you better.just train related and maby what ever else that you feel comfortable about sharing.
You could bring this up and take a pole.
a morning post is a great way to start my morning
Thanks :)
It's so nice that someone like you can fix broken trains and put them to good use
The old "hidden screw under the body!" It looks like someone bought it new and dropped it and it never got fixed. Nice Cab Forward and good job on the repair!
Looking at the minimal wear I tend to agree.
Nice the sp cab forward is now a runner! Serenity!
That will look plenty awesome double heading that with the big boy.🤠
I forgot to add that imho it is an un unusually beautiful locomotive! We really love your channel Harrison. It is a joy to watch in Yokohama.
Thanks, I never took one of mine apart that far. A very good reference video 👍!
Wow, well done. Hats off.. Believe me, I wouldn't have risked opening it in the first place let aside repairing the locomotive.
Thank you!
What a great deal, Harrison! I'm jealous, actually. I'm a HUGE fan of the SP cab-forwards, and getting this one going again....made my mouth water!!! And again - great job on the repair!!!
Thanks a bunch!
This makes me wish I still had my Bachmann Santa Fe EMD GP-40 locomotive. I love watching you repair these locomotives. Makes me want to get back into model trains again.
Older Bachmanns aren't too expensive, why not buy one for nostalgia's sake with a small loop of track?
@SMT Mainline I may do so eventually. I actually already have a loop of the HO gauge rail and the old train cars from my previous Bachmann locomotive.
I enjoy watching how you get them running again. This engine brought back memories as a 10 year old, lil older now. How back then a friend and I would go dumpster diving and a hobby shop distributor. We were after control line airplanes. While searching for planes, we would find tons of brass of that brand engine. How ugly we thought back then and discarded it. A few years later I started to get into model RR and HO scale. Oh how to this day I wish I had of grabbed some of those engines. This was around early ‘70’s
Sounds like a dream finding brass engines in a dumpster. I wonder what the condition of the drives were
It‘s fun to see how you just don‘t give up, being it finding the screw to open it up or the shortcut. Well done!
Now this is a treat
Oh I sooooo always wanted one of those, saving out of my first pay-checks as an apprentice I bought a second hand Rivarossi "Big Boy" (I still have it) from a model shop in Blackpool, in the North of England. One of these was on the shelf but out of my price range...
Awesome fix man love seeing your videos get to see some awesome trains thanks
Great job. I remember seeing one in 1951. Th SP used them on the Imperial and the Argonaut ( locals that ran the same rout as the Sunset limited and Golden State) fascinating to watch all the maintenance performed during the stop, lots of lubricating, etc. in 1951 I was 13 living in Douglas Az. Tracks have since been removed and now the Sunset Limited runs from Benson to Wilcox and on to El Paso where I live now. Great video thank you.
I enjoy watching your problem-solving process. You explain it very well. You might consider getting an ultra-sonic cleaner for your running gear and small part cleaning. Thats just my OCD talking. Great video as always.
I might have one in storage, I will have a look :)
That's great looking and we'll done fixing it
That is pretty neat. You showed good determination to get the job done,!
Thanks
If I bought one of these things and it didn't work, it would have been an immediate shelf item. The Rivarossi steamers can be rascals at times, too. Great to see you got it running!
I wasn’t so sure in the beginning this would run again.
Thank you for the channel. Enjoy watching. Always great how to video. Got a cool layout.
Thanks
Really great for the price! I'm glad you could fix it!
@17:53 "It's alive, alive!"
I believe you like to work on and solve problems with your engines just as much as watching them run on your layout.....
Fine job sir
I enjoy all your vids & have learned so much by watching them. Thanks for helping total neophytes like me get comfortable working on locos!
Glad to help :)
ting conditionI got one of these for Christmas in 1972. I still have it. I have also taken it apart and cleaned it. It has maybe a total of one hour on it, so NEW. Thing is, my great grandfather used to engineer the REAL ones of these from Sacramento to Reno back in the day. There is one left in almost operating condition in the California Railroad Museum is Sacramento, completely restored for those who want to see what 1 million pounds of iron and steel steam engine actually looks like. It is a behemoth. TO think my grandmother used to hide under the bench seat until after they got out of the yard and then ride up front with her dad, and then when they stopped to water the tenders, one every 30 cars, she would get out with her 20 gauge shotgun and hunt grouse and then jump in the caboose and cook dinner on the pot bellied stove for the crew, who would then eat it in Reno when they arrived. She was 13. Born in 1903, so you can do the math and date that.... Anyway, thanks for the still down memory lane!
Howdy Harrison, glad to see you are working on the cab fwd. Im up to 17 cab forwards. Ebay specials, 15 didnt run, 10 had broken monkey decks. Become quite efficient at working on these. There is a blogger named Mel that is an expert on Riv cab fwds, search remotoring a cab forward. Very good material! Love your channel SMT.
yes, I'm thinking there must be new 5-pole motor--more powerful
Thanks for the support!
You're a braver person than I to pull that thing apart! Glad you got it running. :)
Thank you lol
Great to see you got it running!
What a unique engine, and I understand how patience is required when fixing a steam engine. Great to see it running again!
Kudos, Harrison! A super interesting loco and repair job.
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1) Consider getting a “screw grabber” for those hard to reach/hard to replace and start small screws. A low-cost tool I think you’ll love.
2) Now that you’re an expert with taking the Cab Forward apart, how about a video on installing a DCC decoder (with sound) for this terrific loco? I think you’d really be pleased with the result - and the rest of us would learn a lot from you. Given the size of the boiler and tender, there’s plenty of room.
Thanks. The main challenge I see with adding DCC is that the motor is a 3 pole and I don't know how to adjust the CVs to support it.
You are an incredible person with these train repairs. I enjoy watching you as you think things through outloud so others can learn from your expanding learning experiences. One of the things I like most is that you do not give up and you service as you go. Another is the excitement you openly show when it runs and gets better as it runs for awhile. You really should get a small dish to put all the small screws, pieces and parts in so that you do not lose...no, so you do not misplace them. 😉 Very satisfying to see it run. Have you ever thought of doing a teaching "live" where questions can be asked as you work on a locomotive/engine? Maybe state to try to keep the questions to pertaining to what you are working on so they do not get way out of hand. Anyway, just a thought. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts. 💕😊💕🤗💕
I’m absolutely flattered by your comment. I try to be honest when working on something I’m not knowledgeable on however if there is something I have advice on, I share it.
I have done livestreams featuring repairs small repairs however I like your idea of doing full restorations live, I will keep it in mind.
Thanks a bunch for your kind words -Harrison
@@SMTMainline You kind Sir are very welcome. I always enjoy your videos and pass on information to my brother-in-law that I think may help him as he is new to HO scale. He is switching over from N scale. 😊
Definitely been looking for one of these as of late,nice work to get it running again
Enjoy your stuff. I actually crossed my fingers. Heads up for trains and such. Don and his crew are great
FUBPO fudged up by previous owner lol.
Nice bit of trial an error.
Fixed for £0, now that's a good result. Great vid. Great looking engine.
Well done mate. 👍
This was very interesting to watch. Congratulations on your success! I had a few Rivarossi locomotives when I was a very young modeler. It’s a good thing I never took one apart because I would have lost more than a handrail!
You should make a articulated running session
You’ve earned a subscriber. Well done!
These videos are very helpful, I had a Rivarossi big boy that didn't run and it is running again cause i watched your videos and troubleshoot the locomotive.
But will it pull 20 cars?
Wagons*
@@T199Productions In America we call vehicles pulled by a locomotive "cars" as in 'box cars' or 'tank cars.' 'Freight cars' is an alternate term. 'Wagons' is a perfectly acceptable word description but not used in America.
@@zeekwolfe6251 I know that, I hust grew up on the Uk dub dub of thomas, we do call them cars on certain occasions but mostly wagons or carriges and vans
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Nice work on the Riv Harrison. This is an older video that I have not seen before. I found my self very excited to see if you got it to run and run it did. Good job my friend.
I was excited to get it running too.
Bought one new in 1968 for $18 (didn't have $30 for a Big Boy). Always ran like it was slightly constipated. Did put an extension on the roundhouse for it. Hope to remoter and add DCC and probably do something about the flange depth.
Well....seeing this convinced me to buy one in fairly rough condition. Gonna have to straighten out the rear truck frame and find a new cab roof for it. Def saving this video for when it arrives to aid in motor troubleshooting when it arrives.
I had to find and borrow a set of original paperwork for the Rivarossi / AHM / later Model Expo Cab Forward before I attempted to dismantle my first one, which I coincidentally bought used for $125 from Trains and Such back in 1979. Trains and Such was still owned by Jim Scott back then (he started the business in 1975, I think, as a fun side business to his FT job as a school teacher). The hours were a couple of evenings 7-10 p.m. a week and Saturdays. It was a modeler's dream shop, with mostly the highest quality new and used items and over 200 new and used brass locomotive on display and for sale (for $200 - $1800) at any given time for us non- rich kids to look at and dream about. Jim and his staff were always friendly and helpful, even with annoying 12 year-olds with mostly empty pockets like myself. My Trains and Such steal of a deal Cab Forward (they were over $275 new even back then) was in like new condition, but the paperwork was missing and the box was in tatters. I still have it today - still in excellent condition, and it runs so well I've often been asked if I re-motored and re-geared it. Nope - just lucky to get a good one out of the box. BTW - there have been a few versions of the Cab Forward drive mechanism - at least 5 I know of. I own at least one of all but the very first version. The shells vary much less - only 2 versions I am sure of. Really, the shells and details remained the same from the sixties to the mid 90's - when the motor was moved from the cab to further into the boiler shell (the so-called "Red-Box" versions). Some are much better mechanically than others. The last "Red Box" has a 5 pole motor and a flywheel drive. Harrison has the mid 80's to early 90's drive with the reduction gearing and the three-pole can motor, which are usually pretty good runners.
Hello smt Mainline I am so glad you have the patience to work on the steam locomotives they are a pain to work on diesels are very easier that is my opinion
i like very much the Canadian Double-deck wagons behind the scene, with green-white stripes.
Those are very unique cool Locos for sure. I will get me one day too.
Of course you can. Rivarossi is good stuff👍😁
I think so to. The only thing that kills them is using the incorrect oil or grease. Also if you don't align the gearbox with the shaft properly it can destroy the gears. People knock those old motors, but they go forever!
I much prefer the old Rivarossi compared to the Red box ones. In the old ones the chassis were pressed metal which never dies. The carters were metal. The red box ones may run better and have a good can motor, but they have very fragile plastic components. The chassis are cast. Remember the old Zamak rot? Hope that does not happen to the newer cast chassis I have Red box Big Boy and a Red box mallet 2 8 8 0!
Great job Harrison. I have a Red Box Rivarossi Cab Forward and it’s very smooth. Have always loved the looks of them👍
Thank you
Finally a steam locomotive to work on
Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.
If you can get a old tyco running you can get anything runnin!
the cab forward is my ALL TIME favorite locomotive. I love ur videos SMT mainline!
Cool, thanks!
Great video, you must have a lot of patience, lots of parts with that engine, well done 👏 keep up with the videos. Richard
Thanks
Thank you. This video help alot with mine. Taking it apart waa definitely an adventure.
I have this model and have been looking for answers on how to maintain it, being such a large engine it's kinda scary to take it apart. Thank you so much for this video, very insightful!!
Glad it could help
Thats such an awesome locomotive, cool to see someone working on it. Love your content man keep it up!
Thanks
Nice to see a cabover
Truly amazing craftsman! Also great deal at the price.
this reminds me of the time when i passed up a 60$ yellowstone for some reason :) (i could afford it too but instead i went for a mogul, i have no idea what i was thinking)
Great video! Love watching these locomotives come back to life!
I almost bought one of these, mail-order, in 1970 for......$19.95! Still regret it.
Amazing job smt mainline
Great job lovely model
I have just turned one into DCC. Wasn’t easy, but with a bit of thought and design it now is able to run on the layout.
I love that Locomotive.
Nice repair job!
Brilliant job sir! I wish I had just 10% of your confidence and knowledge to tackle these things!
Well done!
Thanks for Sharing, very nice engine!
Awesome video 🚂😎👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent troubleshooting once again.
Do you keep all your projects? Or do/would you sell some off?
I'm just curious.
Thank you
I did not think it would that complicated taking the shell off
I wouldn't have been so tricky if I had known what I was doing.