If you had told me in the nineties that in 25 years President Donald Trump would be indicted for showing state secrets to Kid Rock, I would have thought that was too much of a stretch, even for a Simpsons episode.
When people say Trump is being treated differently, they aren't wrong. Any other person would have been dragged out of bed at 6 AM at gunpoint and held under custody until the trial.
Hey remember Reality Winner, who ANONYMOUSLY leaked a single classified document to a news outlet, and they managed to find out about the leak, find out who did it, and had her in a cell within a week? Currently serving her 63 months in prison...
I was denied allowing my own father on a submarine because he was employed by a news paper. I had to work within a makeshift SCIF because other members of the crew were not on a need to know basis. I am sworn to secrecy for 70 years or until the information that I was privy to was declassified (and its not after 20 so far). But Mr. Trump, who was in effect the most senior military member, shows TS/SCI information that he illegally obtained, to a member of his staff that is not cleared for even confidential and then says as much on tape. I hope he gets the maximum jail time that I would have gotten if I did the same thing. We cannot have two standards of our laws.
I was in US Army Intel during the 80's and recall, prior to starting my permanent party job, being briefed on the responsibilities, risks, and punishments associated with TS/SCI clearance. It is beyond disgusting how people continue to support Trump through this obvious breach of trust and breaking of our laws. Throw the book at him. Oh, and what about Marjorie Taylor Greene copying information she obtained during a meeting in a SCIF and then spewing that information during interviews?
When I was in the Navy, at one time I had a secret clearance. Had I done any of the things Trump did, such as take classified documents to my barracks room or disclosed the contents of any of the classified documents that I had access to to someone without a security clearance, I most certainly would have been court-martialed, reduced in rank, given a dishonorable discharge, and then sent off a military prison. What really upsets me as a veteran is that the GOP -- the supposed "pro-military" political party -- are now defending the man who put the lives of military members in potential danger. It's disgusting.
Your experience is not relevant here at all. The president is not bound by classification laws (Some scholars believe at all). In fact the president can declassify anything without review or bound (And its also not clear if who or when he must notify anyone). Again the supreme court will ultimately have to settle this. Personally I don't believe anything should be classified at all in a democracy.
@@CommanderRiker0No,dear, ultimately a JURY will decide this. And what you think that nothing should be classified just shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject.
@@CommanderRiker0 good thing we live under a dictatorship where Great Leader Trump can do as he pleases and is not bound by any law. And I am sure you, as a random commenter on RUclips, have the correct opinion on the legality of this so no need to listen to anyone else. Thanks!
@@CommanderRiker0 cheetolini wasn't the president. Your falsehoods aren't relevant here. In fact, the president CANT declassify anything without review or bound. Why are you telling that lie? Again, the supreme court has no reason to have a say in this. Despite you wanting that to be the case.
I love how even without narration, you can feel the anxiety of the guy Trump is showing the documents to. He realizes he's being wrapped up in a crime, in real time.
@Clot shot That's definitively false. There has been no substantial evidence put forward about the 2020 election being falsified. They have had years to put forward this evidence, they have had years to make their case. Continuing to spell that conspiracy theory does nothing, especially if you are out of the country and don't seem to know what you're talking about.
@@lullaby218 well, you're not going to get the truth from Trump. He is proven time and time again that he is very willing to lie to the American people.
Kid Rock’s response was apparently something along the lines of “I don’t think I should be seeing this”, and it really says a lot when Kid Rock of all people is the voice of reason in a group of people that includes the former president of the United States.
My sister worked with classified stuff at a high level. One day she took a day off, and her supervisor forgot to inform the correct people. She had a crowd of armed and angry MPs show up before she was even dressed for the day. Trump does this insanity, and is still walking around making excuses and being defended. Wish rules applied to politicians like they do for the rest of us.
Any time I hear a story about "trump and some other person" I think... "How do these people not realized that any time trump brings them as his "+1" to the party, that they are the legal sacrifice he is planning on using?" Every freaking time!
More Trump associates have seen the underside of a bus, than every bus mechanic in history, COMBINED. Trump associates are like his diapers. Close and useful, until he inevitably craps all over them.
Former TS/SCI holder here. It's important to note that even if his staff all had TS/SCI clearances, there's still a need-to-know requirement. When I held an active clearance, I couldn't just go around asking for access to any documents I wanted. We were also required to keep all our classified documents in GSA-approved safes, approved for that specific security level. If anyone came in who didn't have access to those documents through clearance and need-to-know, we had to sanitize the area (make the materials not visible) before they could be given entry. Considering the big deal conservatives and the media made about portion markings visible in Clinton's email, this should be causing an uproar--it is far, far different in magnitude.
Nobody cares about consistency anymore in the media. Demonize the other side no matter what, defend your own side no matter what. Deep down, everyone knows what Trump did is far worse than what Clinton or Biden did. But to give even an inch makes them look dumb and disloyal
Yep I'm a 2nd generation and my dad had higher "clearance" than me lol. There is still stuff that he can't tell me even though we are both out of the government lol
I have several friends (and one niece) who have varying levels of security clearances. I can blab on about my job and some of the cool stuff I do in software design because it's not classified (not even the USDA stuff.) They don't get to talk about their days except in vague generalities.
same, with poly (ugh). And yes, a safe or a SCIF (which is basically just a room-sized safe), and obviously any approved storage location was clearly marked as such. These 37 counts are not just petty stuff. Any ONE of them would have seen me put away for a LONG, LONG time. The question America is going to have to answer with this indictment is whether or not the President of the United States is above the law. The answer should be obvious to anyone other than the most brain-rotted Trump supporter.
@@katarh I knew an old military man who wasn't allowed to tell people what he did...so we just assumed he was in charge of an alien ship being reverse engineered, told everyone else who asked and he couldn't do anything but grin and stay silent. He coulda been a plumber and screwing with us for all we cared, we just liked the intrigue
"This is secret information, Look at this" This is my favourite thing Trump has ever said. This could literally be the prosecution's entire case in a single quote!
like, the staffer is clearly uncomfortable and knows exactly what is happening, but with how he's just going "yep. yeab, sure" he's also unwilling to actually correct the moron and tell him that "I shouldn't be hearing this. It can get us both into a lot of trouble." all he can do is smile and nod.
@@someguy1ificationI think he was likely worried about getting immediately in trouble with Trump. Dude had much less power than him and that makes it very difficult to speak up and tell someone off (not everyone is like me, consquences be damned.) I bet you dude was internally just freaking out and those yeah...uh, huh, were all he could manage.
Huh, so he lied to his lawyers, caused them to inadvertently submit a false report to federal investigators, and hinted that they should take the fall for him? Well, at least that explains why his lawyers are abandoning him -- he's a liability to their careers and freedom.
Not only that but him trying to get his lawyers to violate every single ethics code because he believes that all lawyers are immune from the law. its astonishing
Unfortunately, some of them like Tim Parlatore still think they are supposed to defend Trump in interviews. His interview with Ari Melber the other day was embarrassing.
@@themark443 He doesn't believe that, he's just a malicious parasite. He doesn't *care* that they get in trouble, it's immaterial to him if THEY go down in flames so long as he can preserve his own twisted skin. I'm so far beyond the "Trump stupid lol" - he's not stupid, he knows exactly what he is doing and what he is making other people do. He's foolish and a blowhard, but he's not an idiot. He just thinks that he can forever push the consequences onto other people.
Reporter: “Mr. Trump, do you have any comment about stealing the candy bar?” Trump: “I was never even near the gas station, I don’t think I’ve ever even had a candy bar, I would certainly never steal one.” Reporter: “But sir, we have surveillance footage of you stealing the candy bar, and then sending a picture of you and the candy bar to a colleague.” Trump: (scowls) *”What a nasty thing to say. You know that? What a nasty terrible thing to say to someone.”*
I am a former attorney and even I appreciate the breaking down of the narrow point of law of how a “stage” is more a “public display arena” than a “secure location for classified document storage.” Excellent analysis of a difficult issue that eluded some of our nation’s top legal minds who have been advising the former president.
@@RockandRollWomanat this point I’d say the advice has also descended in quality as all good advice givers have realized their advice is useless and left.
I'll agree with conservatives on one thing: There is a two-tiered justice system in this country. I just think they're wrong about the tiers. The real tiers are rich vs. poor, because if I did even one of the things outlined in the indictment, I would have disappeared into a hole yesterday.
When poor people receive money from the government it's a lazy hand out. When rich people get money from the government they are smart and being rewarded.
It's always a great sign when you lawyer takes a look at the evidence against you a promptly quits saying "now is the logical time for our firm to withdraw from the case"
"Don't worry Mr. President sir, we're with you all the way!" *reviews the evidence* "... in spirit. You got this, big guy! We've just got to uh... our mothers just died. Yes, all of them. Right now. Very strange."
You guys always do this. You watch a few people masquerading as experts. You adopt their opinions then go on to pretend that you as well are an expert on some esoteric aspect of the law or science. Then you spend countless hours over the next months or years cheering on your team and really feeling like this time you’ve got this. But the whole time it’s just a delusion. There’s facts you aren’t made aware of, aspects of the law that you weren’t made aware of, analysis that you were never made aware of. And suddenly it all just collapses and you are distracted by something else and all you have to show for it is your wasted time. This time just chill out. Look at both sides of the story. Remain impartial. Don’t dedicate more than 5mins a day looking into it. In other words, pretend you are sane.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with the public witch that is going on against anyone Trump affiliated and these lawyers’ families aren’t being threatened causing them to quit /s 🤫🫣🙄
I've been saying this about the entire Trump campaign and presidency. Put this stuff in a novel in 1990 or 2000 and it would be rejected by every publisher as too absurd.
Honestly even the concept of a reality tv show star getting elected president sounds too bizarre to be real and it just kept getting worse from there lol
"What happens if we don't play ball?" (with a federal subpoena) Believe it or not, prison! These are the words of a man has never faced a consequence in his life
As disgusting as his mishandling of classified material is, it seems to me worse that, in hindsight, he would have chosen to declassify sensitive defense information for the sole purpose of including it in an autobiography to make himself look cooler, completely ignoring the damage it would do to national security. The fact that anyone in the military continues to support him baffles me.
This behaviour doesn't surprise me in the slightest. He has no conception whatever of any value outside of his own interests. No harm, injury or loss incurred by anyone or anything else matters to him in the slightest. It's truly staggering.
The doublethink of his fanclub is astounding, too. They say it's perfectly fine for someone to take state secrets, somehow magically declassify them, keep them in an unsecured location, "wave them in front" of people without clearance, and then lie to federal investigators when they ask for them back. Then they say that Biden and Pence should be indicted because they turned their documents back in once they became aware of them. Turns out the guy blatantly committing crimes gets in trouble and the ones cooperating get forgotten about. It's almost like the government cared more about just getting their classified information back, weird.
Yep, he claimed that he had already declassified all of these documents. Which means he actively wanted to declassify documents pertaining to our response to a foreign invasion on our soil. He wanted to declassify documents involving our nuclear weapon capabilities and other foreign countries nuclear weapon capabilities. I almost find that more problematic than the fact that he stole these documents, almost.
I feel so bad for the staff member at 4:46. I could only imagine how panicked I would be if the former POTUS started just randomly telling me highly classified military info
Have you seen how trumps supporters treat people that do the right thing? At a miminum that staffers knows they're getting years of death threats if it's known they reported him.
I was an Intel Analyst in the Army. Seeing and reading about how a PotUS handled these documents is just completely mind-boggling and makes my skin crawl! If I had taken one document our of the SCIF and left it anywhere I would be in federal prison. Unbelievable....
I want to know why TF he took them! These werent just "souvenirs" or "keepsakes". He took them for an intended reason. Selling us out is the only thing that comes to mind.
@@lochnessspeedwerkz6557 He has a super fragile ego. The prevailing theory is he took them because he wanted something to brag about to folks. There are also instances of him saying some of these documents would vindicate him against members of the media who (he claims) made things up about him. There's also the very real possibility he was showing these documents to foreign spies. We know of at least one russian asset who had been at mar-a-lago in the time these documents were there. He also owes hundreds of millions of dollars to Russia.
@@CRneu I dont give a crap what the "prevailing theory" is. Any presidential momento could be used for clout. Instead, he took boxes and boxes of our most valued information. The "prevailing theory" is absolute nonsense. Its nothing but the media softening the blow of having THE MOST traitorous pos actually running our country. After watching him slink away from the meeting in helsinki with putin, there has never been a doubt in my mind that he is a disgusting traitor. What more to we need?!
These Trump videos are genuinely important. They’re not a biased view of some of the facts. They’re just the facts of the case. Every American needs to see these videos.
At 12:07 a dog entered the shot in the bottom right of the screen near the edge of the desk. As a lawyer you should know you are legal obligated to show us (the viewers) the puppy. Failure to show us the puppy is a crime, go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Or, the Area 51 scene from Independence Day is accurate: PRESIDENT Why the hell wasn't I told about this place? NIMZIKI Two words, Mr. President. Plausible deniability.
As Bill Watterson wrote for Calvin in "Calvin & Hobbes," "I think the surest sign of intelligent life out there is that none of it has tried to contact us."
I’ve held a clearance for 30 years, both on active duty in the military and as a dod civilian. If I had done even one of these things, I’d already be in jail. He needs to go away, for life.
@Jim Chu Hunter isn't in politics. Biden cooperated with authorities and Clinton technically didn't do anything illegal. Irresponsible yes. But not illegal. Well. It wasn't illegal until Trump made it illegal
@@jimchu42 Hillary's emails are the same exact thing Trump's wife does. Frankly most of congress has horrible opsec and doesn't respect proper security practices. Hunter is kinda sleazy, and a Nepo Baby. The chain of custody on that laptop is seriously dubious. Some files were added to the 'backup' even after the FBI had custody of the laptop. So yeah, if they're guilty lock them up. Neither of those situations compare to Trump.
The indictment reads like a grade school math word problem. If Nauta moves 30 boxes on Tuesday, 18 boxes back on Wednesday, and 64 boxes out again on Thursday, how many years in prison can he and Donald be popped for?
@@jshowao-rw1dh It's up to a max of 10 years as stated in the video by the lawyer. With the possibility, if remote, of consecutive 10-year sentences so 20 or 30 years is not impossible.
@@MrBrock314 I heard somewhere that the absolute maximum time he could serve in prison was some thing like 400 years. that’s a definite extreme situation and definitely will not happen, but still wild to think about
"Trumps defence lawyers, whoever they are at the time of this video" This made me laugh, considering that Trump still hasn't managed to find any new lawyers after all the ones he asked in the last few days refused to work for him. Decades of scamming and not paying his own lawyers is really coming back to bite him in the ass.
Not to mention its on record he lied to his old ones and made them inadvertently complicit in his crimes. *And floated them taking the fall for his crimes.*
This is such an insane unforced error on his part. I've never been a fan or voted for him, but this was literally the easiest freaking indictment in the world to not receive and he still received it. Like you said, Pence and Biden found classified documents, handed them over and that was basically the end of it. Trump definitely could've gotten the same thing.
@@Locruidstupid take. Are you willfully unintelligent? Neither Pence nor Biden denied having documents, then hid said documents they claimed not to have. All the while showing national secrets to house guests. If you really believe those things correspond, you ARE just plain dumb.
@@Locruid The law doesn't require one to be contrite, it requires one to comply. You're saying that what Biden and Clinton did was equivalent when the facts show otherwise. If anything Trump has been treated with more deference than anyone.
Literally all he had to do was give the boxes back. He’d have been in trouble, but let’s be real he probably would have gotten away with it like everything else. Instead he just kept moving boxes around so no one knew wether or not he actually gave them back. It’s absolutely ridiculous how this is where we are.
As demonstrated by Pence and Biden's cases he would not have been in any trouble. It's entirely believable that at that level of access in the government that you could accidentally have TS/SCI material that you improperly retained with your more mundane paperwork. Then you find it and give it back and all is done. As another noted the volume of material would have been eyebrow raising, but even then it would have been a "no harm no foul" case if he had just given it back.
I think he has to be smarter than we see him acting and portrayed. He ran several successful businesses, a tv show and a successful campaign for President. He cannot be a complete idiot. I think he is just used to getting his way, facing no consequences and having others protecting him from his actions.
Donald Trump is now on record heavily suggesting that one of his attorneys should say it was them and take the legal fall for him. "Incredible" isn't even close to being sufficient enough a word.
No one is even arguing that Trump didn't do what he's accused of. They are just arguing that he should be above the law, just as he was during his whole Presidency.
hot take, but there was something that rubbed me the wrong way about saddam hussein's trial. They're telling a dictator what laws he can follow in his own dictatorship?? Bro just shoot saddam and be done with it. like, imagine going up to hitler and being "stop! you're under arrest!"
It seems to me that they are all pretty open now that the only thing that matters is that GOP wins power and is able to implement its policies. Democracy, justice, equality, the law. None of these matter now.
@@blakksheep736during the 2020 election, TFGs team accidentally booked the wrong location for a press rally. they meant to book a hotel, and instead ended up with a landscaping company. iirc it was in a strip mall, and that's were the pic of giuliani melting came from
LOCK HIM UP Here's what Trump said about classified documents back in 2016: "We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified." "In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law." "As the head of the executive branch and Commander in Chief, I have a unique, Constitutional responsibility to protect the Nation's classified information, including by controlling access to it" WOMP WOMP
The fact that Trump lied to his attournies and threw them under the bus is just icing on the cake here. I'm really hoping it signals to every half-decent lawyer in the country that representing trump would be a bad idea. I know it's a too much to hope for, but it would be pretty priceless if an ex-POTUS got stuck with a public defender.
PRICELESS IMAGE! Imagine the headline: "Trump lawyers tired of getting scammed; ex-president represented by public defender with only 3 years of trial experience"
Imagine what would happen if these notes didn't exist. Nothing! I shutter to think of all the other things taking notes would have exposed a while back...
That "This is secret information, so don't get too close" is the most Trumpian statement ever. He knows that it's secret, he knows that the person shouldn't see it, but he doesn't care and can't help himself. Like a child, he has to show off how special he is and he has no idea what he is doing or how serious it is.
He is, and has always been, just a giant child. The fact that a BUNCH of people would still vote for him should tell the rest of us a VERY clear message. Well, assuming we can get past the next crisis, or the one after that, or the one after that.......
"Look at this, I got this from my uncle at Nintendo, it tells you the secret cheat code to... well, I can't actually show you, I don't want to get my uncle in trouble, but it's a really good one"
Trump going "Look at this thing. you're not allowed to see this thing, but look at this thing." is peak toddler. In fact there are probably toddlers let in on secrets that have more self restraint than he did/does.
I love the line about "not getting too close" to the classified information, as if its a magic eye puzzel and you can only see the classified information if you stand too close
Honestly, if I’m like three feet away I can’t read for shit so that might actually work for me lol But this only applies in limited circumstances where the other party has dogshit eyesight and needs an update on their prescription (like me lol).
Lying himself is one thing, but he also implicated his own lawyers to back up his crimes by lying to them and making THEM lie. No wonder his attorneys keep leaving him.
at this point what kind of Lawyer would want to defend him. i mean they could end up risking Disbarment because there ain't no real way to spin this is a good light for Trump. hell i wouldn't be too shocked if they try a Insanity plea.
What is sad is that officials tried every angle to sweep this under the rug, but it was just so blatant they had to indict. This person could have walked away from this by handing the stuff over. Amazing... "cut your nose off to spite your face"
Apparently National Archives and Records Administration asked him for documents, if he'd returned them it would have been swept under the carpet as a 'misunderstanding'. He didn't and eventually the FBI had to be called in by NARA.
Major important point for anyone reading this: READ THE INDICTMENT YOURSELF, if possible. It’s available online. The case is actually ridiculously close to a slam dunk, I’d be shocked if they didn’t manage to nail him on at least one charge. Doing so will give you a major advantage over the next few days when the idiots who haven’t even looked at it come out of the woodwork.
"...will give you a major advantage over the next few days when the idiots who haven’t even looked at it come out of the woodwork" It was the same for the Depp v. Heard case but for those that actually watched the case vs those that popped out of the woodwork and cried for Amber after the verdict was read.
Whats scary is the assigned judge, Aileen Cannon, can really sabotage this case if she chooses to. And she's made some extremely questionable calls for Trump in the past.
@@meesironman She can be forced to be recused from the case. The DoJ wouldn't risk indicting a former president of all people in her district if there was a chance of judicial sabotage. 28 U.S.C. § 455(a), a judge “shall disqualify himself [or herself] in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.”
The defense won't be "I didn't do it" (it's obvious he did), but "this is politically motivated and I should be above the law" (not with these words of course). I wonder how many in the jury will agree...
The quote with him saying "my boxes" as if any of it belonged to him. Anyone who works for this country or put effort or blood into getting that material together should be offended and outraged.
@@johnbiggscr I don't like pence, but I am glad that he returned the documents that he had and isn't getting any consequences. It weakens the argument that all this is only happening to trump because he's a republican. Of course people are still going to (and are) argue that it's unfair, but we can point at pence to show that a democrat and a republican who acted the same way are getting similar consequences, and the one who didn't act like that is getting different consequences.
@@johnbiggscr The whataboutism with Biden and Pence is just so willfully ignorant it’s insane. Biden and Pence were just ignorant/negligient, and fully cooperated once they became aware of the problem. Trump knowingly and willfully took and kept things he shouldn’t, and he went out of his way to keep NARA from retrieving them.
I wonder if Devin realizes the extent to which he's providing an extraordinary public service with videos like these. Just the facts, explained in an understandable, digestible manner, with a masterful explanation of the relevant laws. He's like the Neil Degrasse Tyson of legal matters: an enthusiastic, knowledgeable educator with a talent for breaking down complicated subject matter for we mere mortals.
@@autohmae those of us with more brains, but not the attention span to read though over 30 pages of legal documents do enjoy it though(yes i am talking about meself and any others who are the same).
@@autohmae I think he means the average person, not Trumpers. Similarly, Neil Degrasse Tyson isn't making content to explain astronomy to Flat Earthers.
@@Sniperbear13 my guess is most of the country will very soon understand it without needing the videos, it's going to be very obvious soon enough, it's the trumpers that need convincing, but they won't want to watch it.
@@autohmae Convincing them is like herding cats. Trump could have launched a Nuke into the ocean close to Europe and the trump supporters would have been ecstatic, while the rest of us would be shitting our pants.
Not to mention, he was also given numerous opportunities to right the wrongs he did and give the documents back with no more than a slap on the wrist, but he still failed to do the right thing.
I remember a House of Cards ad back in the 2016 election that said they couldn't write or paraphrase any of the current real world events into the show because it was "[too ridiculous]" and now everything that happened then seems so tame.
The comment about the cleaning staff is really spot on. All of the scif's I ever went into were absolutely filthy because no cleaning staff had access. ... And as plenty of other people here have commented, the law, and especially penalties for breaking the law, about retaining or distributing (e.g. through presentation to any persons without need to know and clearance) were repeated to us constantly, with each knew document, to really put fear in us about divulging things or keeping mementos. If Trump doesn't get punished, then it will put so much of our country's security at risk.
The crazy thing about all of this is that this mess is entirely of Trumps own making. He COULD have declassified the documents but through laziness or just sheer incompetence or stupidity he didn’t. But even after that he could have given the documents back, no harm no foul. But noooo….instead he doubled down and turned a whoopsie into a full on federal crime.
he could have declassified the documents but the declassified documents are still owned by the government. declassified documents can afterwards be requested through a FOIA. the government makes copies of the declassified documents and sends the copies. the government retains ownership of the original declassified documents & will send you to jail if you attempt to steal the originals.
Some of the documents are classified by order of law, and not by order of the executive branch, so he still couldn't declassify all of them even if he tried.
I have come to the conclusion that the thing that keeps a government going more than anything else is being held accountable. If leaders are not held accountable, the whole system falls apart.
Seems like only republican are being held accountable. Hillary Clinton did the same thing got a slap on the wrist. Biden literally did the same thing and nothing happened to him... What about the Brack Obama war crimes? All the drone strikes he sent over to the middle east killing countless civilians. I'm pretty sure the civilians/children death toll was like 300. But leftist don't care.... He was trigger happy and killed many innocent civilians
Our enemy countries continue to watch and listen. It's time to show the WORLD that NO MORE CORRUPTION IN OUR WHITE HOUSE. Vote DeSantis, a True Warrior Patriot, with a respectable history. THE TAXPAYERS ARE HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL THE MILLIONS BEING SPENT ON THE CIRCUS IN MIAMI..
"except it is like, highly confidential." ... "Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this." - spoken like a 13 year old telling their middle school friends about their secret list of possible romantic interests.
It's infuriating that because of my job and security issues with it I have to jump through serious hoops to do various things. I have my travel, and online presence restricted, have to be careful about what I talk about and yet Murdoch's screaming banshees keep saying he did nothing wrong and shouldn't face any repercussions. And actively lie. The same assholes who had to do a record payout for ...wait for it... lying. Nothing I did or do even come close to touching the level of sensitivity of those papers. TS/SCI papers are firing squad level stuff. Yet the "news organization" keep posting actual lies, where if I did the equivalent of fox's people I'd be under the jail if I was lucky. This isn't up for debate, he's damaged security. If you want anything resembling a future he and everyone involved need to see what the rest of us would get. FML.
To be honest, the scariest thing about all of this is just that so many random unknown people (like janitorial staff) had completely unsupervised access to those boxes for so long in all the different locations they were stored, and any one of them could have easily gone rifling through them and pull out any documents that looked interesting and just _take them home with them_ too. We have absolutely no idea how many of those extremely sensitive documents might have gone missing before the boxes were even recovered, and AFAIK no way to even figure that out one way or another. There easily could be a whole bunch of people out there who still have secret government documents stashed somewhere in their house (that even Trump doesn't know about, let alone anyone else). And now we just have to hope that someday that doesn't all come back to bite us horribly somehow...
The documents don't even have to go missing. Someone took a pic of the box spilled on the floor, so there doesn't seem to be a "no smarphones" rule for staff in the place.
Scary to think someone hired to clean a room could go home with sensitive government documents that might cause serious international problems down the road. The situation is like something out of an animated series like American Dad.
The odds that someone under the employee of foreign intelligence service did not review the contents of those boxes are close to zero. The public reporting alone suggests several candidates.
Don't forget they did actually catch one or two spies trying to snoop around at mara Lago. Who knows if they had any success before getting caught, or if others didn't get caught
@@BigSmiley0TV I would be surprised if there was anyone on his staff who was not currently under the employment or influence of foreign intelligence services. It's just too freaking easy.
True. Also, let's not forget the brave people on the grand jury, the prosecutors and the journalists who currently have the bravery to cross Trump. Trump will hunt them down, probably.
I cannot be happier knowing that he is finally under a microscope and being held accountable but I hope that someday the people around him, like Lindsay Graham, will also be held accountable for what they've done.
Just like I hope all the people who weren't president and caught with classified information also get locked up which is almost everyone in power on the left mostly hillary clinton Joe biden also had them as senator and while vice president.
If he gets away with stealing documents for clout and political favours while Chelsea Manning served solitary time for revealing war crimes, I would be equal parts outraged and unsurprised.
Trump *really* needs to serve time and be publicly excoriated for being dangerous. But don't for a second excuse what Chelsea Manning did. That deserved the punishment it got.
i hope trump goes to prison and spend the rest of his life there, but i wish hilary and biden would also be punished, they mishandled documents too, and it wasn’t “by mistake”
Imagine you’re a soldier on the front lines and you and your entire squad get butchered because Kid Rock and Donald Trump wanted to play real life Risk
-He possessed national defense information, much of which was TS/SCI -He didn't have permission to possess the documents -He did not secure the documents -He didn't declassify them -He knew he had not declassified them -He showed them to others -He knew he shouldn't show them to others -He didn't cooperate and then lied that he had cooperated -He lied to his attorneys -He deliberately hid the documents from his attorneys -He deliberately hid the documents from the FBI and NARA -He conspired with others to do everything above
What makes all this really funny is how very avoidable it all has been. He was asked nicely, on numerous occasions to just give the documents back, and he just didn't, but then also admitted knowing he was doing crimes, and discussed on tape exactly *how* they were crimes.
Yup. The special treatment WAS that he was given so many additional chances. If anyone else had taken that kind of stuff, we'd be in jail for years or decades. One document is enough for jail time. Pence and Biden were informed they had stuff, and went "oh oops my bad, please come take it all back, we don't need it." Trump literally asked if he could just ignore it. And then proceeded to hide it. For two years!
He never really believed there'd be consequences, because there just never had been for him before. And owning those documents was very important to him. It's scary to think about who he has already shown/given our secrets to.
Trump was literally subpoenaed last year to return the documents and lied about how many he had, going so far as to hide dozens of boxes of classified material. He was repeatedly asked nicely and then legally required to return them. He failed repeatedly.
@@TheBoogerJamesno the numerous chances that the DoJ gave Trump to simply return the documents without any legal repercussions was politically motivated.
@@TheBoogerJames Like the other commenter said, if it was politically motivated, why wouldn't the DOJ had taken immediate action rather than give Trump unprecedented time to respond (a year). I'm sure plenty of democrats would have jumped at the chance to indict Trump immediately if they could have.
@TheEvolver311 to be honest, I think it was politically motivated only in that it was to counter the argument of "any indictments over these documents will be claimed as politically motivated" I'm confident any elected official would probably be given just as many chances as Trump to turn stuff over, but all the other elected officials are smart enough to comply the first time
Trump’s “defense” of this seems to be less trying to deny he did this and more: “So what if I did? I’m untouchable.” I pity any lawyer that has to work with him on this case, but I’d also advise they be paid in full up front.
It's also his own words he owns them because of the Presidential Records Act. The only real difference is, him claiming innocence is on TV. His admission of guilt requires them not to be illiterate.
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The leftwing media wants you to believe that. He had every right as a sitting president to de-classify anything he wanted to. Not hillary or biden can say that. You are being brainwashed. I was on your side until I was finally showed how dishonest the left have been since Trump took office in 2016. I am not blaming you. I blame the outlets you (and I) let brainwash us.
My dad was in the military police. One of his jobs was guarding a facility with classified documents in it. This colossal Neanderthal had them in a bathroom where any Mar-A-Lago staff could have access to them.
@@CelynBrum It's not Slander when there is proof lol. He has to be convicted before you can call him a criminal, but there is actually released testimony and pictures of classified documents in a staff bathroom lol That is not slander works you only have to prove there is like 50% chance its true, and they proved with out a reasonable doubt that it was there, staff new it was there, and already provided pictures and testimony to a grand jury lol
The most amazing thing about all this (I mean, besides it happening at all) is that the DOJ gave him an absolutely absurd amount of leeway. At ANY POINT he could have complied and gotten away with, at most, a fine and a hefty amount of side-eye. If this were any regular person, they'd have already been black-bagged and sent to an undisclosed location until they complied.
@@russell-gt1dy you know trump feels like, "damnit I should have just gave them back to NARA a year ago" lol He didn't even read them or use them, what a buffoon
What gets me the most about this is that he had so many opportunities to just give back the documents and move on without any bother in the world. Had he, at any point prior to his house search, returned these documents they would've probably just let it go.
I truly think he was baiting the justice department to go after him so he can boost his poll numbers and continue the whole “deep state is persecuting me” schtick. He has gotten away (so far) with everything else so he probably never considered actually going to prison for the rest of his life.
Our enemy countries continue to watch and listen. It's time to show the WORLD that NO MORE CORRUPTION IN OUR WHITE HOUSE. Vote DeSantis, a True Warrior Patriot, with a respectable history. THE TAXPAYERS ARE HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL THE MILLIONS BEING SPENT ON THE CIRCUS IN MIAMI.
This was an excellent summary of the indictments and why Trump is in such trouble. I wish all his supporters would, if not read the indictments for themselves, watch this and see that it’s not a witch hunt, or political warfare, but an actual crime that deserves and needs to be litigation for the good of our democracy.
Yea I agree with the above comment it’s not that they don’t have access to the information or the capability to understand they willing choose to be ignorant and don’t care because he’s their guy and will do anything including storming our capitol to protect him
These people are operating at the most basic animal level. They’re barely even conscious, only the tribalist primate social systems are working, and then a few programs run in the background to tie shoes and use a tv remote
I love that no Republican is saying that he's innocent, just that it's somehow unfair to charge Trump for committing espionage when he obviously did...
Depending on how you use the word espionage I would at the very least consider that debatable. It is however, irrelevant, since the crimes that he's accused of are the unlawful retention of documents and obstruction of justice.
Major cases like the Clinton email scandal make it clear that prosecution in the case of mishandling classified information isn't recognized as a crime per se. You can't selectively prosecute people based on whether you like them or not. Prosecution is likely going to have to prove a line of malicious intent for any charges to stick.
Imagine being Nauta. You're staring down the barrel of some serious jail time for a man who will throw you under the bus as soon as your use to him is done.
I feel nothing but schadenfreude for the man. How many lawyers, contractors, cronies, etc. has Trump very blatantly turned on and screwed over in the past? Anyone who puts themselves in a position to be thrown under the bus by him at this point, has nobody but themselves to blame. Thinking "he won't do it to me!" Is pure hubris.
@@MrClickity I wouldn't trust Trump to pick me up a chocolate bar from down the road. He'd probably get me a Snickers, when I wanted a Kit Kat, claim it was the correct order, tell me a Snickers was better, then insist that I try the Snickers, despite my peanut allergy.
He was probably reading the covering note on the secret files that reads something like 'TOP SECRET IF YOU DON'T HAVE CLEARANCE AND ARE READING THIS STAY PUT THE BLACK HELICOPTERS ARE ON THEIR WAY.'
You are the first party covering this that noticed not all classified materials found at mar a lago by FBI were discussed in indictment. We may never no what was the worst stuff he was shuffling through in his bathroom and leaving in public areas.
This video is hard to get through. If trump doesn't go to jail for this then the entire classification and information security system is broken and moot. If a "normal" DoD employee had done this then even a plea deal would have bought them a MINIMUM of life in prison.
How anyone still defends this man is beyond me. He so clearly improperly handled the documents, at the very least. This all assumes there's no evidence of him knowingly showing these things to people for personal gain. But even just grabbing them and leaving them sitting around in a very public location like the resort, sitting unguarded, is something that even his most ardent supporter should be against because of how much it could damage national security.
There is evidence that he was knowingly showing things to people who did not have security clearance in order to 'make himself look cool' at the very least. However, idiots will defend him forever because they're idiots who bought into the grift so hard it's become a defining characteristic of their very existence, and admitting Trump swindled them would be like chopping off their own arm.
Here's the thing, they're not defending what he did. They're defending him despite what he did. Recent poll showed 80% of Republican voters. When asked said that Trump should be allowed to be president even if these allegations were true.
@@troubadour723 You are close, but not there yet. We are defending him.... BECAUSE HE DID NOTHING SPECIAL. He waved some papers in front of some people. He did what most presidents and vice presidents, and secretaries of state, and senators, did previously, with nothing happening to them. That's why we 'still defend him'.
@@troubadour723 exactly trump as a political figure has become so much more than who he is as a person… even though our founding fathers wanted to avoid exactly that when they wrote the constitution
The other notable thing here is that what Trump did was *so* egregious that Attorney-Client Privilege was found not to apply for Corcoran - that alone is *yuge*
I mean of course. The Prosecuters want to assure them they aren’t threatening them and nothing bad will happen. Because the Prosecution is already on record as threatening lawyers
It seems like trump just cannot comprehend the idea that his actions can have consequences, probably because he has done horrible things with zero consequences all his life
His daddy's money probably got him out of a lot of trouble. I mean, it handled all his failed businesses too so I wouldnt be surprised that he just doesnt understand what consequences are..
@@Highfalutinloyd it wouldn’t result in any consequences anyway, I guarantee even the most anti-trump judge in the country wouldn’t dare give him prison time.
You must remember that nobody ever could tell Trump what to do. He was probably told to return the documents, in which he simply flipped that request off. His ego has been, is, and will always be his worst enemy.
From what I've read the National Archives and Records Administration politely asked for the documents, long before the FBI got involved, FBI was the last resort. He could have said "here they are, forgot I had them" and it would have been the end of the matter
Well of course he was told. His attorneys were actively trying to return documents to the Govt even as Trump himself was trying to convince them not to. So he resorted to hiding the documents from his own attorneys.
Regardless of any defense or excuse Trump and Republicans make, voters need to ask themselves why Trump wanted nuclear and war secrets and fought so hard to keep them to a point of being charged with a crime and do they want a that person back in office with more access to this type of information.
I agree, but I don't think most of his voters really understand what's going on in the first place. Did you see the fox headlines? They think this is Biden trying to imprison his political rival...
Yes. Yes I would. If it's between him and biden I'll take Trump all day. The real question is do you want an 80+ year old, dementia riddled, little girl hair sniffing, bribe taking, chronic liar who is in bed with the Chinese communist party, is depleting our oil reserves, depleting our weapons reserves and leaving us vulnerable by perpetuating an endless war in Ukraine that botches withdrawals from Afghanistan and makes us the laughing stock of the world that weaponises the alphabet agencies to go after his political rivals and continues to allow the southern border to look as free flowing as Niagara falls which perpetuates human/sex/drug trafficking, that has a degenerate for a son that is also corrupt af that is handing biden dirty money from his own illegal dealings on the side adding to the utter cesspool of corruption this administration is. Oh and that has also through his own domestic fiscal "policies" has caused my grocery bills to double in the past two years. Don't know about you, but I don't want to sign up for 4 more years of that. As ridiculous as Trump is, I'll take him over biden.
@Georgije2 That is the single most generous explanation that could be given. It likely also isn't the truth of the matter. We know Trump has financial assets in other countries. We know Trump kept this documentation. We have reasons to suspect that he has some connections or intrest in him by Putin. This is because of the known cyber attacks during the 2016 election traced back to Russia. Through currently at this time unverified documentation we have reason to believe Trump shifted around classified documents to retain these specific documents. That the documents are significantly dangerous for the details to become leaked is undeniable. We have confirmed document types for some of these documents. We can not assume he kept these documents only for childish clout. We have currently unverified documentation that he actually showed others some of these secrets. That at minimum if true (which it likely is) shows he was using the documents for personal gain by either improving his own status in the eyes of others or implying loyalty those he shared with.
I work withing the Judiciary and we are prohibited from bringing anything home. Anything. It is grounds for removal the mere physical act of going outside the building with any documents I had access. This is incredible
Exactly… Obviously the focus should be on what he illegally held in those boxes… but the surprise was how many boxes at his residences, but also the people who helped him remove & transfer & store elsewhere those boxes…not innocent either…
There are so many it's hard to keep track, not to mention his base loves his crimes and will defend him violently if they feel like have to lol why? Who knows, my guess daddyissues
I was a classified documentation clerk in the Air Force back in the 1980s. My job was not only to properly transfer classified documentation through the mail to ensure a complete chain of receipt (some level of classification could be transferred through the mail, and others such as TOP Secret/SCI could not), but to also inspect all of the facilities on post for the proper storage of classified documentation. I did the last part periodically by sneaking around post at night after everyone went home, and checking the various offices to see if they had properly secured their documents. In two years of doing that job, I only found one safe that was not properly secured and never found any classified documentation laying around. This was an Air Force Base with Military Aviation and Nuclear assets during the cold war. I reported the one incident to the commander, and I'm not sure what happened - probably an Article 15 given the sensitivity of the item in question (nonjudicial punishment). What you detailed Trump doing made my head spin around.
Trumpists during the 2016 election campaign: "HILLARY'S EMAILS! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!" Trumpists during this entire shitshow: "Whoa now hold on there let's not be too hasty here :)"
Hypocrites all. Any elected official who commits a crime should lose their job regardless of party. The entire US Justice System is devolving into more of a joke than it ever was.
Hillary supporters during the 2016 campaign: Trump collided with Russia! So what's your point? Are you one of those "vote blue no matter who" folks? Or are you willing to call out both sides? I do recalled a certain other president having classified documents in his garage. Is he being indicted? Nope. I wouldn't vote for Trump but honestly I can't stand this "my shit don't stink" hypocrisy anymore as if all politicians on both sides aren't corrupt.
Just unbelievable when you stop to consider there is no chance in any universe that Trump was ever going to read a single word on a single one of those documents.
Nah, there are recordings of him reading them in other people's presence. He had no patience for his daily briefs back when he had an actual job to do, but these are the most "interesting" docs he saw and saved.
Are we really sure that Trump wouldn't use any of these documents for blackmail, political leverage, vengeance, or obtaining favors? There's no evidence he has done this but I'm not sure any assessment of his character would rule it out.
He kept the one's that he knew he could sell or blackmail someone for his own monetary gain. Just ask Jared what he did to get that 2 billion from the Saudi's. Trump hates America, he'd do anything to sell it out for his personal gain or to punish a perseived enemy.
⚖ Will he actually go to jail this time?
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Maybe
Not if Aileen Cannon presides the case.
God damn, that is an amazing tie youre wearing!
Absolutely not... but every other person involved whether innocent or not will go to prison.
Let's hope so --- otherwise our criminal justice system is a total farce
If you had told me in the nineties that in 25 years President Donald Trump would be indicted for showing state secrets to Kid Rock, I would have thought that was too much of a stretch, even for a Simpsons episode.
It's a stretch for a Robot Chicken episode.
if you were a born and raised new yorker 25 years ago, you wouldn't have batted an eye over the latest outrageous, nefarious thing djt did.
@@nonyabizness.original yes, but would you have believed that he became POTUS?
Truth really is stranger than fiction
@@bcpr9812 now THAT, absolutely positively NOT.
When people say Trump is being treated differently, they aren't wrong. Any other person would have been dragged out of bed at 6 AM at gunpoint and held under custody until the trial.
More likely they'd have died by suicide shortly after being arrested
@@IMBlakeley Precedent, there was that American couple who tried to sell nuke secrets to the Russians, got caught and sentenced to death.
Hey remember Reality Winner, who ANONYMOUSLY leaked a single classified document to a news outlet, and they managed to find out about the leak, find out who did it, and had her in a cell within a week? Currently serving her 63 months in prison...
No dem president would be indicted....i mean before this. Now guaranteed.
While conducting the raid they'd probably also have trashed their house and shot either the neighbors dog or kids depending on availability 🙄
I was denied allowing my own father on a submarine because he was employed by a news paper. I had to work within a makeshift SCIF because other members of the crew were not on a need to know basis. I am sworn to secrecy for 70 years or until the information that I was privy to was declassified (and its not after 20 so far). But Mr. Trump, who was in effect the most senior military member, shows TS/SCI information that he illegally obtained, to a member of his staff that is not cleared for even confidential and then says as much on tape. I hope he gets the maximum jail time that I would have gotten if I did the same thing. We cannot have two standards of our laws.
He shows it to Kid Rock. Kid Rock. I'll say that again. Kid Rock. Absolutely staggering.
Reality winner got five years. Trump should get at least 20, too bad he will die before he sees a day in prison.
"We cannot have two standards of our laws."
There are a few minorities and women that have been saying that for 200+ years.
I was in US Army Intel during the 80's and recall, prior to starting my permanent party job, being briefed on the responsibilities, risks, and punishments associated with TS/SCI clearance. It is beyond disgusting how people continue to support Trump through this obvious breach of trust and breaking of our laws. Throw the book at him. Oh, and what about Marjorie Taylor Greene copying information she obtained during a meeting in a SCIF and then spewing that information during interviews?
@@Moosetick2002 Yes, people are starting to realize it applies to everyone.
When I was in the Navy, at one time I had a secret clearance. Had I done any of the things Trump did, such as take classified documents to my barracks room or disclosed the contents of any of the classified documents that I had access to to someone without a security clearance, I most certainly would have been court-martialed, reduced in rank, given a dishonorable discharge, and then sent off a military prison. What really upsets me as a veteran is that the GOP -- the supposed "pro-military" political party -- are now defending the man who put the lives of military members in potential danger. It's disgusting.
Your experience is not relevant here at all. The president is not bound by classification laws (Some scholars believe at all). In fact the president can declassify anything without review or bound (And its also not clear if who or when he must notify anyone). Again the supreme court will ultimately have to settle this. Personally I don't believe anything should be classified at all in a democracy.
@@CommanderRiker0No,dear, ultimately a JURY will decide this. And what you think that nothing should be classified just shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject.
@@CommanderRiker0 good thing we live under a dictatorship where Great Leader Trump can do as he pleases and is not bound by any law. And I am sure you, as a random commenter on RUclips, have the correct opinion on the legality of this so no need to listen to anyone else. Thanks!
@@CommanderRiker0 cheetolini wasn't the president. Your falsehoods aren't relevant here. In fact, the president CANT declassify anything without review or bound. Why are you telling that lie? Again, the supreme court has no reason to have a say in this. Despite you wanting that to be the case.
@@CommanderRiker0 oh. now I see why You're spreading lies. You're a rightwinger subbed to Dimmy Bore and lapping up his disinformation.
I love how even without narration, you can feel the anxiety of the guy Trump is showing the documents to. He realizes he's being wrapped up in a crime, in real time.
@Clot shot That's definitively false. There has been no substantial evidence put forward about the 2020 election being falsified.
They have had years to put forward this evidence, they have had years to make their case. Continuing to spell that conspiracy theory does nothing, especially if you are out of the country and don't seem to know what you're talking about.
@@lullaby218 well, you're not going to get the truth from Trump. He is proven time and time again that he is very willing to lie to the American people.
Very strange bots active in this comment section lmao.
@@lullaby218 the truth has now been published. It’s over for him. Shall only get worse if he testifies.
@Clot shot huh. So you're liking your own bots comments.
Also, no.
Kid Rock’s response was apparently something along the lines of “I don’t think I should be seeing this”, and it really says a lot when Kid Rock of all people is the voice of reason in a group of people that includes the former president of the United States.
I want to get off this ride.
@@glitchedoom We all do. It's starting to get tiresome being on the merry-go-round, and it's also making us all a bit nauseous.
Lol @ anyone trying to impress KidRock
@@Parraka That fact he's even involved in any of this makes my brain melt.
magine if bush had just shown random national secrets to lil kim
My sister worked with classified stuff at a high level. One day she took a day off, and her supervisor forgot to inform the correct people. She had a crowd of armed and angry MPs show up before she was even dressed for the day.
Trump does this insanity, and is still walking around making excuses and being defended. Wish rules applied to politicians like they do for the rest of us.
I watched as men in black escorted a young woman out of the building and off the facility at Lockheed for not reporting her eastern European vacation.
You mean like Insider Trading and free PPP money?
I trust these documents in the hands of Trump more than with NARA or in the Biden White House. You know I'm right.
Just so you are aware it isnt the brightest to let social media know a close family member had access to classified docs....just sayn
Homie lost his military ID twice and was threatened with prison, separation, and actually did have his pay reduced to 35% for 6 months.
Any time I hear a story about "trump and some other person" I think... "How do these people not realized that any time trump brings them as his "+1" to the party, that they are the legal sacrifice he is planning on using?" Every freaking time!
More Trump associates have seen the underside of a bus, than every bus mechanic in history, COMBINED.
Trump associates are like his diapers. Close and useful, until he inevitably craps all over them.
They’re Republicans, that’s how.
Because if you're dumb enough to believe trump you won't question everything you're doing
Former TS/SCI holder here. It's important to note that even if his staff all had TS/SCI clearances, there's still a need-to-know requirement. When I held an active clearance, I couldn't just go around asking for access to any documents I wanted. We were also required to keep all our classified documents in GSA-approved safes, approved for that specific security level. If anyone came in who didn't have access to those documents through clearance and need-to-know, we had to sanitize the area (make the materials not visible) before they could be given entry.
Considering the big deal conservatives and the media made about portion markings visible in Clinton's email, this should be causing an uproar--it is far, far different in magnitude.
Nobody cares about consistency anymore in the media. Demonize the other side no matter what, defend your own side no matter what. Deep down, everyone knows what Trump did is far worse than what Clinton or Biden did. But to give even an inch makes them look dumb and disloyal
Yep I'm a 2nd generation and my dad had higher "clearance" than me lol. There is still stuff that he can't tell me even though we are both out of the government lol
I have several friends (and one niece) who have varying levels of security clearances. I can blab on about my job and some of the cool stuff I do in software design because it's not classified (not even the USDA stuff.) They don't get to talk about their days except in vague generalities.
same, with poly (ugh). And yes, a safe or a SCIF (which is basically just a room-sized safe), and obviously any approved storage location was clearly marked as such. These 37 counts are not just petty stuff. Any ONE of them would have seen me put away for a LONG, LONG time.
The question America is going to have to answer with this indictment is whether or not the President of the United States is above the law. The answer should be obvious to anyone other than the most brain-rotted Trump supporter.
@@katarh I knew an old military man who wasn't allowed to tell people what he did...so we just assumed he was in charge of an alien ship being reverse engineered, told everyone else who asked and he couldn't do anything but grin and stay silent.
He coulda been a plumber and screwing with us for all we cared, we just liked the intrigue
"This is secret information, Look at this"
This is my favourite thing Trump has ever said. This could literally be the prosecution's entire case in a single quote!
He has ALWAYS been a braggart and a show off. Hence putting his name up on his buildings in huge gold plated letters.
it was brilliant. and then the staffer is like "well, now we have a problem." and Trump just keeps going.
like, the staffer is clearly uncomfortable and knows exactly what is happening, but with how he's just going "yep. yeab, sure" he's also unwilling to actually correct the moron and tell him that "I shouldn't be hearing this. It can get us both into a lot of trouble."
all he can do is smile and nod.
@@someguy1ificationI think he was likely worried about getting immediately in trouble with Trump. Dude had much less power than him and that makes it very difficult to speak up and tell someone off (not everyone is like me, consquences be damned.) I bet you dude was internally just freaking out and those yeah...uh, huh, were all he could manage.
@@Insertia_Nameia oh yeah, but I don't have enough claim he was feeling intimidated...
it's totally what was happening though
Huh, so he lied to his lawyers, caused them to inadvertently submit a false report to federal investigators, and hinted that they should take the fall for him? Well, at least that explains why his lawyers are abandoning him -- he's a liability to their careers and freedom.
And he has history of not paying his lawyers 😂😂😂
@@nhaan4178exhibit A - Michael Cohen
Not only that but him trying to get his lawyers to violate every single ethics code because he believes that all lawyers are immune from the law. its astonishing
Unfortunately, some of them like Tim Parlatore still think they are supposed to defend Trump in interviews. His interview with Ari Melber the other day was embarrassing.
@@themark443 He doesn't believe that, he's just a malicious parasite. He doesn't *care* that they get in trouble, it's immaterial to him if THEY go down in flames so long as he can preserve his own twisted skin.
I'm so far beyond the "Trump stupid lol" - he's not stupid, he knows exactly what he is doing and what he is making other people do. He's foolish and a blowhard, but he's not an idiot. He just thinks that he can forever push the consequences onto other people.
Reporter: “Mr. Trump, do you have any comment about stealing the candy bar?”
Trump: “I was never even near the gas station, I don’t think I’ve ever even had a candy bar, I would certainly never steal one.”
Reporter: “But sir, we have surveillance footage of you stealing the candy bar, and then sending a picture of you and the candy bar to a colleague.”
Trump: (scowls) *”What a nasty thing to say. You know that? What a nasty terrible thing to say to someone.”*
Omfg this is straight how his reaction would be
And his mouth and fingers would be covered in chocolate.
@@Default_Defect😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Default_Defect
He would have given Rudy the wrapper and then brag to his friends about stealing the candy bar and how awesome he is
I am a former attorney and even I appreciate the breaking down of the narrow point of law of how a “stage” is more a “public display arena” than a “secure location for classified document storage.” Excellent analysis of a difficult issue that eluded some of our nation’s top legal minds who have been advising the former president.
I don't think the quality of advice is the problem. Even the best advice can be, and has been, ignored.
@@RockandRollWomanat this point I’d say the advice has also descended in quality as all good advice givers have realized their advice is useless and left.
@@muadhnate That was lawyer sarcasm😅.
Yeah, but this is Trump. Every time his foot touches ground it's a stage.
Those attorneys that Trump hired are questionablely "our nation's top legal minds".
I'll agree with conservatives on one thing: There is a two-tiered justice system in this country. I just think they're wrong about the tiers. The real tiers are rich vs. poor, because if I did even one of the things outlined in the indictment, I would have disappeared into a hole yesterday.
Truth
Even if we THOUGHT it, the government would’ve had us disappear.
When poor people receive money from the government it's a lazy hand out. When rich people get money from the government they are smart and being rewarded.
@@CobaltContrast Fact. Our country provides socialism for the rich and rugged bootstap-pulling individualism for the poor.
If you got caught with a joint in many states, or had unpaid traffic tickets, you would have already faced way harsher consequences.
It's always a great sign when you lawyer takes a look at the evidence against you a promptly quits saying "now is the logical time for our firm to withdraw from the case"
"Don't worry Mr. President sir, we're with you all the way!" *reviews the evidence* "... in spirit. You got this, big guy! We've just got to uh... our mothers just died. Yes, all of them. Right now. Very strange."
It's more like they know they might not get paid.
More like, "The amount of his lawyers in legal peril is particularly alarming. Let's get the F out now before we end up in trouble too."
You guys always do this. You watch a few people masquerading as experts. You adopt their opinions then go on to pretend that you as well are an expert on some esoteric aspect of the law or science. Then you spend countless hours over the next months or years cheering on your team and really feeling like this time you’ve got this. But the whole time it’s just a delusion. There’s facts you aren’t made aware of, aspects of the law that you weren’t made aware of, analysis that you were never made aware of. And suddenly it all just collapses and you are distracted by something else and all you have to show for it is your wasted time. This time just chill out. Look at both sides of the story. Remain impartial. Don’t dedicate more than 5mins a day looking into it. In other words, pretend you are sane.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with the public witch that is going on against anyone Trump affiliated and these lawyers’ families aren’t being threatened causing them to quit /s 🤫🫣🙄
A lawyer who doesn't take notes is the kind of lawyer who'd probably be willing to literally dispose of a body for you if you pay them well enough.
a criminal LAWYER vs. a CRIMINAL lawyer.
Saul took notes.
@@ZachoLibre Did Saul ever personally help dispose of a body? No, he just knew people who would.
in other news the guy who was about to whistle blow on the bidens died
Look up :
Burisma whistle blower
Happened today
@@ZachoLibre I don't think Lional Hutz took notes
If this fiasco was submitted as a script anywhere it would be rejected for being too absurd.
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
This feels like a Burn After Reading sequel.
You gotta admit, it'd make a great Monty skit
I've been saying this about the entire Trump campaign and presidency. Put this stuff in a novel in 1990 or 2000 and it would be rejected by every publisher as too absurd.
Honestly even the concept of a reality tv show star getting elected president sounds too bizarre to be real and it just kept getting worse from there lol
"What happens if we don't play ball?" (with a federal subpoena)
Believe it or not, prison!
These are the words of a man has never faced a consequence in his life
Facing consequences?
Tangerine Tyrant: "I wasn't aware that was something a person could do."
He has a lifetime of experience telling him that there is no such thing as consequences.
As disgusting as his mishandling of classified material is, it seems to me worse that, in hindsight, he would have chosen to declassify sensitive defense information for the sole purpose of including it in an autobiography to make himself look cooler, completely ignoring the damage it would do to national security. The fact that anyone in the military continues to support him baffles me.
No one is talking about this part enough.
This behaviour doesn't surprise me in the slightest. He has no conception whatever of any value outside of his own interests. No harm, injury or loss incurred by anyone or anything else matters to him in the slightest. It's truly staggering.
The doublethink of his fanclub is astounding, too. They say it's perfectly fine for someone to take state secrets, somehow magically declassify them, keep them in an unsecured location, "wave them in front" of people without clearance, and then lie to federal investigators when they ask for them back. Then they say that Biden and Pence should be indicted because they turned their documents back in once they became aware of them.
Turns out the guy blatantly committing crimes gets in trouble and the ones cooperating get forgotten about. It's almost like the government cared more about just getting their classified information back, weird.
Yep, he claimed that he had already declassified all of these documents.
Which means he actively wanted to declassify documents pertaining to our response to a foreign invasion on our soil.
He wanted to declassify documents involving our nuclear weapon capabilities and other foreign countries nuclear weapon capabilities.
I almost find that more problematic than the fact that he stole these documents, almost.
"...anyone in the military..."
Weird how AI Trump sounds much more reasonable and believable than real Trump.
This is because Ai at least has to generate coherent outputs.
He's also a top Magic the Gathering player.
Oof; rimshot.
This all reminds me of a wise old quote from a federal judge: The president is not king, and the plaintiff is not president.
@Watzetzface nope!
I feel so bad for the staff member at 4:46. I could only imagine how panicked I would be if the former POTUS started just randomly telling me highly classified military info
I suspect his staffers are somewhat numbed to such things, given Trump's constant stream of illegal activity. Work for dogs, wind up with fleas.
And have it all on tape because Trump agreed the conversation to be recorded...
At that point you call the FBI and turn State's Evidence immediately. _Proactively_ even.
Shouldn't be panicked at all if you do the right thing after he does and report him lmfao
Have you seen how trumps supporters treat people that do the right thing? At a miminum that staffers knows they're getting years of death threats if it's known they reported him.
Remember kids always return your library books, especially if the library is the federal government.
Yeah this needs to be pinned 🤣🤣🤣
@@JambAndSee 📌+1
And the books are about nukes*
Or have bleachbit and hammers ready to do their stuff...
Good one! 😂
"Trump's lawyers, whoever they are at the time of this video" had me spit my coffee 🤣
I was an Intel Analyst in the Army. Seeing and reading about how a PotUS handled these documents is just completely mind-boggling and makes my skin crawl! If I had taken one document our of the SCIF and left it anywhere I would be in federal prison. Unbelievable....
I want to know why TF he took them! These werent just "souvenirs" or "keepsakes". He took them for an intended reason. Selling us out is the only thing that comes to mind.
Someone really wants another chance to vote for Hillary.
@@lochnessspeedwerkz6557 He has a super fragile ego. The prevailing theory is he took them because he wanted something to brag about to folks. There are also instances of him saying some of these documents would vindicate him against members of the media who (he claims) made things up about him.
There's also the very real possibility he was showing these documents to foreign spies. We know of at least one russian asset who had been at mar-a-lago in the time these documents were there. He also owes hundreds of millions of dollars to Russia.
@@ephemispriest8069 you're babbling incoherently, NPC.
@@CRneu I dont give a crap what the "prevailing theory" is. Any presidential momento could be used for clout. Instead, he took boxes and boxes of our most valued information. The "prevailing theory" is absolute nonsense. Its nothing but the media softening the blow of having THE MOST traitorous pos actually running our country. After watching him slink away from the meeting in helsinki with putin, there has never been a doubt in my mind that he is a disgusting traitor. What more to we need?!
These Trump videos are genuinely important. They’re not a biased view of some of the facts. They’re just the facts of the case. Every American needs to see these videos.
Agree 💯%
Every American will hear this, but not every American will listen. Hearing something is a lot different than listening. That's the problem.
It is absolutely biased. Two minutes in, and he already lies about all those boxes being top-secret documents. There weren't.
The fact that this guy was president for 4 years & had access to the levers of power should send chills down the spine of any sane American.
@@PatPatych Reasons why Legal Eagle would lie?
At 12:07 a dog entered the shot in the bottom right of the screen near the edge of the desk. As a lawyer you should know you are legal obligated to show us (the viewers) the puppy. Failure to show us the puppy is a crime, go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Legal Eagle Puppy Cam!
I lost it when you started citing the rules of Monoply 😂
Pay your pet tax Legal Eagle!
I think it's safe to say aliens don't exist, because Trump would have shown a classified document about that to his housekeeper
Or, the Area 51 scene from Independence Day is accurate:
PRESIDENT
Why the hell wasn't I told about
this place?
NIMZIKI
Two words, Mr. President.
Plausible deniability.
As Bill Watterson wrote for Calvin in "Calvin & Hobbes," "I think the surest sign of intelligent life out there is that none of it has tried to contact us."
this is a funny joke, but really lol they out there man
@@SantaFishes101 It's not really a joke. If he had access to documents about aliens, he would have tweeted about it when he was president.
@SantaFishes101 yes they are!
I’ve held a clearance for 30 years, both on active duty in the military and as a dod civilian. If I had done even one of these things, I’d already be in jail. He needs to go away, for life.
So biden needs to be in jail as well as Hillary
Absolutely, you would get to rot in jail
@@jimchu42
If they are guilty, absolutely. Too bad for you guys that you're charging nothing burgers... 😅
@Jim Chu Hunter isn't in politics. Biden cooperated with authorities and Clinton technically didn't do anything illegal. Irresponsible yes. But not illegal. Well. It wasn't illegal until Trump made it illegal
@@jimchu42 Hillary's emails are the same exact thing Trump's wife does. Frankly most of congress has horrible opsec and doesn't respect proper security practices.
Hunter is kinda sleazy, and a Nepo Baby. The chain of custody on that laptop is seriously dubious. Some files were added to the 'backup' even after the FBI had custody of the laptop.
So yeah, if they're guilty lock them up. Neither of those situations compare to Trump.
The indictment reads like a grade school math word problem. If Nauta moves 30 boxes on Tuesday, 18 boxes back on Wednesday, and 64 boxes out again on Thursday, how many years in prison can he and Donald be popped for?
This comment is gold
@@jshowao-rw1dh It's up to a max of 10 years as stated in the video by the lawyer. With the possibility, if remote, of consecutive 10-year sentences so 20 or 30 years is not impossible.
LMAOOOOOOOO
@@MrBrock314 I heard somewhere that the absolute maximum time he could serve in prison was some thing like 400 years. that’s a definite extreme situation and definitely will not happen, but still wild to think about
Hahaha he’s free now.
Judge saw through the nonsense
"Trumps defence lawyers, whoever they are at the time of this video"
This made me laugh, considering that Trump still hasn't managed to find any new lawyers after all the ones he asked in the last few days refused to work for him. Decades of scamming and not paying his own lawyers is really coming back to bite him in the ass.
The district he's being tried in has like a 97% conviction rate. Feds don't typically go after someone unless they know it's a near slam dunk
Not to mention its on record he lied to his old ones and made them inadvertently complicit in his crimes. *And floated them taking the fall for his crimes.*
Not to mention the fact that as a client he's completely unmanageable since the crazy mf just Won't. Shut. Up!
Better call Saul.
Sad thing is, he's rich enough to pay his lawyers, and pay them well! Then again he has a history of not paying people he hires.
This is such an insane unforced error on his part. I've never been a fan or voted for him, but this was literally the easiest freaking indictment in the world to not receive and he still received it.
Like you said, Pence and Biden found classified documents, handed them over and that was basically the end of it. Trump definitely could've gotten the same thing.
@@Locruid I don't see Pence under federal indictment. Nor do I see the Republican Party as a whole under indictment.
@@Locruidstupid take. Are you willfully unintelligent? Neither Pence nor Biden denied having documents, then hid said documents they claimed not to have. All the while showing national secrets to house guests. If you really believe those things correspond, you ARE just plain dumb.
@@Locruid The law doesn't require one to be contrite, it requires one to comply. You're saying that what Biden and Clinton did was equivalent when the facts show otherwise. If anything Trump has been treated with more deference than anyone.
@@Locruidisn’t it weird how when you admit to a crime it’s easier to charge you for it?
@@mscheese000 This has nothing to do with classified documents. Its about not walking the military industrial complex line.
Literally all he had to do was give the boxes back. He’d have been in trouble, but let’s be real he probably would have gotten away with it like everything else. Instead he just kept moving boxes around so no one knew wether or not he actually gave them back. It’s absolutely ridiculous how this is where we are.
All Trump had to do was pack the crap he brung.
I mean, the sheer VOLUME would have been a bit hard to understand. But, it wouldnd't have been AS BAD as this...
"Why couldn't you put the bunny back in the box?"
As demonstrated by Pence and Biden's cases he would not have been in any trouble. It's entirely believable that at that level of access in the government that you could accidentally have TS/SCI material that you improperly retained with your more mundane paperwork. Then you find it and give it back and all is done. As another noted the volume of material would have been eyebrow raising, but even then it would have been a "no harm no foul" case if he had just given it back.
@@eattherich9215 Just FYI brung isn't the past tense of bring, it's brought. Brung isn't a word in english lol
Some people insist Trump is a secret super-genius. I think this case should put that theory to rest.
I think he has to be smarter than we see him acting and portrayed. He ran several successful businesses, a tv show and a successful campaign for President. He cannot be a complete idiot. I think he is just used to getting his way, facing no consequences and having others protecting him from his actions.
Yeah he’s a rich malicious idiot
Unless getting caught was somehow the optimal move then yeah.
If you had the money for 40 layers of professional business consultants you’d be successful too
Unfortunately his devotees are incapable of that level of logical thinking, Dunning-Kruger...
4 years of a spectularly incompetent Presidency, and the thing that might take him down is a bad episode of Storage Wars.
YUUUUUUP!
It's always the little things, isn't it?
@@jesuszamora6949 I mean, Al Capone was finally caught for, of all things, tax evasion.
@@jesuszamora6949 😂
Well, Al Capone was caught for tax evasion wasn't he?
It's always the little things
Donald Trump is now on record heavily suggesting that one of his attorneys should say it was them and take the legal fall for him. "Incredible" isn't even close to being sufficient enough a word.
Trump is accustomed to having others fall on their swords for him. It's casual for him at this point to suggest it.
No one is even arguing that Trump didn't do what he's accused of. They are just arguing that he should be above the law, just as he was during his whole Presidency.
And before he started squatting in our White House.
The GQP is the party of no accountability. For them.
I know, right? Usually the defense begins with that they did NOT do it before trying to find or invent a legal loophole to get an acquittal.
hot take, but there was something that rubbed me the wrong way about saddam hussein's trial. They're telling a dictator what laws he can follow in his own dictatorship?? Bro just shoot saddam and be done with it.
like, imagine going up to hitler and being "stop! you're under arrest!"
It seems to me that they are all pretty open now that the only thing that matters is that GOP wins power and is able to implement its policies. Democracy, justice, equality, the law. None of these matter now.
If Trump goes to prison for sharing classified information with Kid Rock, that will be the funniest thing in US history.
I need that in the history books immediately.
After the Four Seasons Landscaping press conference.
Future generations are not going to believe the Trump administration. There's too much and it's all too stupid.
@@floraposteschild4184 what was that?
@@blakksheep736during the 2020 election, TFGs team accidentally booked the wrong location for a press rally. they meant to book a hotel, and instead ended up with a landscaping company. iirc it was in a strip mall, and that's were the pic of giuliani melting came from
LOCK HIM UP
Here's what Trump said about classified documents back in 2016:
"We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified."
"In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law."
"As the head of the executive branch and Commander in Chief, I have a unique, Constitutional responsibility to protect the Nation's classified information, including by controlling access to it"
WOMP WOMP
im sure there are plenty of other things we can look back at what Trump has said only to he himself do the things he was attacking others for.
The fact that Trump lied to his attournies and threw them under the bus is just icing on the cake here. I'm really hoping it signals to every half-decent lawyer in the country that representing trump would be a bad idea. I know it's a too much to hope for, but it would be pretty priceless if an ex-POTUS got stuck with a public defender.
Considering who his last lawyers were (an ambulance chaser and an incompetent clout seeker), a public defendant might actually be his best choice.
I'd feel bad for the public defender who would be assigned to this case... It'd be one hell of a case to try to prove Trump innocent of all charges.
PRICELESS IMAGE! Imagine the headline:
"Trump lawyers tired of getting scammed; ex-president represented by public defender with only 3 years of trial experience"
Breaking news : Bidens impeachment just went through
sorry your orange god lost, bub @@user-kr9cg5vc84
Just the fact that Trump's previous lawyers all decided that it would be better not to take notes says a lot.
Imagine what would happen if these notes didn't exist. Nothing! I shutter to think of all the other things taking notes would have exposed a while back...
Exactly. The only type of lawyer I know of who wouldn't take notes is a mob lawyer.
Not even just previous, he's having a hard time finding lawyers to represent him, full stop. They ALL know this would ruin their career.
Is you taking notes on a criminal fuckin' conspiracy ?
didn't one of them keep notes in secret that later turned up in use against him? Someone did, not 100% sure if it was his lawyer
That "This is secret information, so don't get too close" is the most Trumpian statement ever. He knows that it's secret, he knows that the person shouldn't see it, but he doesn't care and can't help himself. Like a child, he has to show off how special he is and he has no idea what he is doing or how serious it is.
He is, and has always been, just a giant child. The fact that a BUNCH of people would still vote for him should tell the rest of us a VERY clear message. Well, assuming we can get past the next crisis, or the one after that, or the one after that.......
"Look at this, I got this from my uncle at Nintendo, it tells you the secret cheat code to... well, I can't actually show you, I don't want to get my uncle in trouble, but it's a really good one"
@Laura Collins He doesn't care if he gets caught cause he knows the conservative cult will back him no matter what.
All of you repliers have plainly never seen a good criminal barrister shred hearsay evidence such as thks.
@@oweneather1435its not hearsay if the defendant said the thing that was heard
Trump going "Look at this thing. you're not allowed to see this thing, but look at this thing." is peak toddler. In fact there are probably toddlers let in on secrets that have more self restraint than he did/does.
I love the line about "not getting too close" to the classified information, as if its a magic eye puzzel and you can only see the classified information if you stand too close
Honestly, if I’m like three feet away I can’t read for shit so that might actually work for me lol
But this only applies in limited circumstances where the other party has dogshit eyesight and needs an update on their prescription (like me lol).
Lying himself is one thing, but he also implicated his own lawyers to back up his crimes by lying to them and making THEM lie. No wonder his attorneys keep leaving him.
at this point what kind of Lawyer would want to defend him. i mean they could end up risking Disbarment because there ain't no real way to spin this is a good light for Trump. hell i wouldn't be too shocked if they try a Insanity plea.
He's really living up to Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.
@@Zarincos They had to pull a "I DONT KNOW YOU, THATS MY PURSE" and run away
What is sad is that officials tried every angle to sweep this under the rug, but it was just so blatant they had to indict. This person could have walked away from this by handing the stuff over. Amazing... "cut your nose off to spite your face"
That's a narcissist for you. Spiteful short-term thinkers.
Apparently National Archives and Records Administration asked him for documents, if he'd returned them it would have been swept under the carpet as a 'misunderstanding'. He didn't and eventually the FBI had to be called in by NARA.
Major important point for anyone reading this: READ THE INDICTMENT YOURSELF, if possible. It’s available online. The case is actually ridiculously close to a slam dunk, I’d be shocked if they didn’t manage to nail him on at least one charge. Doing so will give you a major advantage over the next few days when the idiots who haven’t even looked at it come out of the woodwork.
"...will give you a major advantage over the next few days when the idiots who haven’t even looked at it come out of the woodwork"
It was the same for the Depp v. Heard case but for those that actually watched the case vs those that popped out of the woodwork and cried for Amber after the verdict was read.
Whats scary is the assigned judge, Aileen Cannon, can really sabotage this case if she chooses to. And she's made some extremely questionable calls for Trump in the past.
@@meesironmancouldn't that then be appealed if it's noticed there's a chance of bias in the judge?
@@meesironman She can be forced to be recused from the case. The DoJ wouldn't risk indicting a former president of all people in her district if there was a chance of judicial sabotage.
28 U.S.C. § 455(a), a judge “shall disqualify himself [or herself] in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.”
The defense won't be "I didn't do it" (it's obvious he did), but "this is politically motivated and I should be above the law" (not with these words of course). I wonder how many in the jury will agree...
The quote with him saying "my boxes" as if any of it belonged to him. Anyone who works for this country or put effort or blood into getting that material together should be offended and outraged.
This was such a stupidly easy indictment to avoid. All Trump had to do was give back the documents, but the chutzpa of Trump simply wouldn’t allow it
Exactly. If he had just returned what he had, like biden and pence did, then nothing would have happened.
Same way Bruce Rivers put it
@@johnbiggscr I don't like pence, but I am glad that he returned the documents that he had and isn't getting any consequences. It weakens the argument that all this is only happening to trump because he's a republican. Of course people are still going to (and are) argue that it's unfair, but we can point at pence to show that a democrat and a republican who acted the same way are getting similar consequences, and the one who didn't act like that is getting different consequences.
Ray, he just wanted some good riding for longer sitings on toilet. what happend to Land of the Free?
@@johnbiggscr The whataboutism with Biden and Pence is just so willfully ignorant it’s insane.
Biden and Pence were just ignorant/negligient, and fully cooperated once they became aware of the problem.
Trump knowingly and willfully took and kept things he shouldn’t, and he went out of his way to keep NARA from retrieving them.
I wonder if Devin realizes the extent to which he's providing an extraordinary public service with videos like these. Just the facts, explained in an understandable, digestible manner, with a masterful explanation of the relevant laws. He's like the Neil Degrasse Tyson of legal matters: an enthusiastic, knowledgeable educator with a talent for breaking down complicated subject matter for we mere mortals.
I'm sorry, but those who need to learn about these facts don't watch his videos or will just claim he's bias, etc.
@@autohmae those of us with more brains, but not the attention span to read though over 30 pages of legal documents do enjoy it though(yes i am talking about meself and any others who are the same).
@@autohmae I think he means the average person, not Trumpers. Similarly, Neil Degrasse Tyson isn't making content to explain astronomy to Flat Earthers.
@@Sniperbear13 my guess is most of the country will very soon understand it without needing the videos, it's going to be very obvious soon enough, it's the trumpers that need convincing, but they won't want to watch it.
@@autohmae Convincing them is like herding cats. Trump could have launched a Nuke into the ocean close to Europe and the trump supporters would have been ecstatic, while the rest of us would be shitting our pants.
Pretty rare that the defendant is caught on film saying "Yeah, I have this stuff I'm not supposed to have" and yet here we are
He doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut
Well he did say off the record while be recorded /s
Not to mention, he was also given numerous opportunities to right the wrongs he did and give the documents back with no more than a slap on the wrist, but he still failed to do the right thing.
@@soulknife20 you don't have to stop talking when you have the best words.
He’s allowed to have those records
I remember a House of Cards ad back in the 2016 election that said they couldn't write or paraphrase any of the current real world events into the show because it was "[too ridiculous]" and now everything that happened then seems so tame.
The comment about the cleaning staff is really spot on. All of the scif's I ever went into were absolutely filthy because no cleaning staff had access. ... And as plenty of other people here have commented, the law, and especially penalties for breaking the law, about retaining or distributing (e.g. through presentation to any persons without need to know and clearance) were repeated to us constantly, with each knew document, to really put fear in us about divulging things or keeping mementos. If Trump doesn't get punished, then it will put so much of our country's security at risk.
The crazy thing about all of this is that this mess is entirely of Trumps own making. He COULD have declassified the documents but through laziness or just sheer incompetence or stupidity he didn’t. But even after that he could have given the documents back, no harm no foul. But noooo….instead he doubled down and turned a whoopsie into a full on federal crime.
he could have declassified the documents but the declassified documents are still owned by the government. declassified documents can afterwards be requested through a FOIA. the government makes copies of the declassified documents and sends the copies. the government retains ownership of the original declassified documents & will send you to jail if you attempt to steal the originals.
I'm under the impression that some of these documents that may not be true, not without other process and approvals.
Some of the documents are classified by order of law, and not by order of the executive branch, so he still couldn't declassify all of them even if he tried.
Maybe he could have declassified some documents, but even the president can't just willy-nilly declassify everything
Throughout his life he's made messes but someone is always there to cover his ass, mostly lawyers.
I have come to the conclusion that the thing that keeps a government going more than anything else is being held accountable. If leaders are not held accountable, the whole system falls apart.
What is the chance that at least one Trump supporter won't make it on jury?
Plus a democratic government without accountability isn't a democracy. It's simply an oligarchy under the guise of democracy.
Seems like only republican are being held accountable. Hillary Clinton did the same thing got a slap on the wrist. Biden literally did the same thing and nothing happened to him... What about the Brack Obama war crimes? All the drone strikes he sent over to the middle east killing countless civilians. I'm pretty sure the civilians/children death toll was like 300. But leftist don't care.... He was trigger happy and killed many innocent civilians
Our enemy countries continue to watch and listen. It's time to show the WORLD that NO MORE CORRUPTION IN OUR WHITE HOUSE. Vote DeSantis, a True Warrior Patriot, with a respectable history. THE TAXPAYERS ARE HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL THE MILLIONS BEING SPENT ON THE CIRCUS IN MIAMI..
@Nuclear Sam Evidence does not appear that compelling to Trump supports.
"except it is like, highly confidential." ... "Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this." - spoken like a 13 year old telling their middle school friends about their secret list of possible romantic interests.
It's infuriating that because of my job and security issues with it I have to jump through serious hoops to do various things.
I have my travel, and online presence restricted, have to be careful about what I talk about and yet Murdoch's screaming banshees keep saying he did nothing wrong and shouldn't face any repercussions. And actively lie.
The same assholes who had to do a record payout for ...wait for it... lying.
Nothing I did or do even come close to touching the level of sensitivity of those papers.
TS/SCI papers are firing squad level stuff. Yet the "news organization" keep posting actual lies, where if I did the equivalent of fox's people I'd be under the jail if I was lucky.
This isn't up for debate, he's damaged security. If you want anything resembling a future he and everyone involved need to see what the rest of us would get.
FML.
He has had help damaging security -- from NARA and the DOJ. Entirely unacceptable.
To be honest, the scariest thing about all of this is just that so many random unknown people (like janitorial staff) had completely unsupervised access to those boxes for so long in all the different locations they were stored, and any one of them could have easily gone rifling through them and pull out any documents that looked interesting and just _take them home with them_ too. We have absolutely no idea how many of those extremely sensitive documents might have gone missing before the boxes were even recovered, and AFAIK no way to even figure that out one way or another. There easily could be a whole bunch of people out there who still have secret government documents stashed somewhere in their house (that even Trump doesn't know about, let alone anyone else).
And now we just have to hope that someday that doesn't all come back to bite us horribly somehow...
The documents don't even have to go missing. Someone took a pic of the box spilled on the floor, so there doesn't seem to be a "no smarphones" rule for staff in the place.
Scary to think someone hired to clean a room could go home with sensitive government documents that might cause serious international problems down the road. The situation is like something out of an animated series like American Dad.
The odds that someone under the employee of foreign intelligence service did not review the contents of those boxes are close to zero. The public reporting alone suggests several candidates.
Don't forget they did actually catch one or two spies trying to snoop around at mara Lago. Who knows if they had any success before getting caught, or if others didn't get caught
@@BigSmiley0TV I would be surprised if there was anyone on his staff who was not currently under the employment or influence of foreign intelligence services. It's just too freaking easy.
Trump’s actual defense is dragging the case out long enough to try and get back the presidency and dismiss it.
Yep. If he wins *shudder* his first move will be to attempt to pardon himself for all past and future crimes.
BINGO!
True. Also, let's not forget the brave people on the grand jury, the prosecutors and the journalists who currently have the bravery to cross Trump. Trump will hunt them down, probably.
@@Kevin-bl6lg he’s a dictator wannabe
Frankly it is a solid plan, which has a decent chance of working 😅
I cannot be happier knowing that he is finally under a microscope and being held accountable but I hope that someday the people around him, like Lindsay Graham, will also be held accountable for what they've done.
Just like I hope all the people who weren't president and caught with classified information also get locked up which is almost everyone in power on the left mostly hillary clinton Joe biden also had them as senator and while vice president.
Just like russia gate right 😅
Breaking news : Bidens impeachment just went through
Frankly, the whole blasted government needs this or greater level of scrutiny. So many have done things obviously wrong and it has been ignored.
You mean Trump hasn't been under a microscope before this? GTFO.
Please, please let Trump have himself defended by ChatGPT.
Oh that would be GLORIOUS. XD
It would also up the odds he actually gets punished for this.
😂😂😂
I would love Callgirl Boebert, Gangbang Taylor Greene and Melting Ghouliani to defend him. Plus Amber Threesome Heard's lawyer... She was also cool.
It'd at least be more coherent than he is 😂🤣😂🤣
He would have more chances with ChatGPT from what it looks like.
All I’m saying is that when I was on active duty with TS Clearance, If i took a fraction of this material home with me, it would be straight to jail.
Didn't Reality Winner take a single document? And got several years in prison?
If he gets away with stealing documents for clout and political favours while Chelsea Manning served solitary time for revealing war crimes, I would be equal parts outraged and unsurprised.
Trump *really* needs to serve time and be publicly excoriated for being dangerous. But don't for a second excuse what Chelsea Manning did. That deserved the punishment it got.
She also leaked tens of thousands of informant names...
@@zacharywhite211 Hahaha he’s free now.
Judge saw through the nonsense
i hope trump goes to prison and spend the rest of his life there, but i wish hilary and biden would also be punished, they mishandled documents too, and it wasn’t “by mistake”
There's is mishandling
And then there's all that trump did. Eg stole , lied ,concealed
If you listen to the actual recording that LegalEagle kindly performed, the Staffer’s voice is rife with “oh shit oh shit oh shit” 😂
Thats amazing
Imagine you’re a soldier on the front lines and you and your entire squad get butchered because Kid Rock and Donald Trump wanted to play real life Risk
-He possessed national defense information, much of which was TS/SCI
-He didn't have permission to possess the documents
-He did not secure the documents
-He didn't declassify them
-He knew he had not declassified them
-He showed them to others
-He knew he shouldn't show them to others
-He didn't cooperate and then lied that he had cooperated
-He lied to his attorneys
-He deliberately hid the documents from his attorneys
-He deliberately hid the documents from the FBI and NARA
-He conspired with others to do everything above
And he provided good reading materials in the bathroom for all!
Clear and Present Danger.
Go to electric chair. Go directly to electric chair. Do not pass awake. Do not collect $350. /jj
@@Mpo65 Underrated my guy, comedy gold
@@Mpo65 Nice!!!!
What makes all this really funny is how very avoidable it all has been. He was asked nicely, on numerous occasions to just give the documents back, and he just didn't, but then also admitted knowing he was doing crimes, and discussed on tape exactly *how* they were crimes.
Yup. The special treatment WAS that he was given so many additional chances. If anyone else had taken that kind of stuff, we'd be in jail for years or decades. One document is enough for jail time. Pence and Biden were informed they had stuff, and went "oh oops my bad, please come take it all back, we don't need it." Trump literally asked if he could just ignore it. And then proceeded to hide it. For two years!
He never really believed there'd be consequences, because there just never had been for him before.
And owning those documents was very important to him. It's scary to think about who he has already shown/given our secrets to.
Trump was literally subpoenaed last year to return the documents and lied about how many he had, going so far as to hide dozens of boxes of classified material. He was repeatedly asked nicely and then legally required to return them. He failed repeatedly.
@@rockyoumonkeys if it's any comfort, Russia and China already knew your nuclear force disposition.
He did this intentionally.
He treated the state's secrets like he treated the job....
"The indictment is politically motivated" means "any indictment is politically motivated" which means "I am above the law".
Of course the indictment is politically motivated. But if he didn't break the law, they wouldn't have anything to go on.
@@TheBoogerJamesno the numerous chances that the DoJ gave Trump to simply return the documents without any legal repercussions was politically motivated.
@@TheBoogerJames Like the other commenter said, if it was politically motivated, why wouldn't the DOJ had taken immediate action rather than give Trump unprecedented time to respond (a year). I'm sure plenty of democrats would have jumped at the chance to indict Trump immediately if they could have.
@TheEvolver311 to be honest, I think it was politically motivated only in that it was to counter the argument of "any indictments over these documents will be claimed as politically motivated"
I'm confident any elected official would probably be given just as many chances as Trump to turn stuff over, but all the other elected officials are smart enough to comply the first time
Trump classified, biden bribes, clinton impeached, bush weapons mass destruction...political motivated all would be behind bars
Trump’s “defense” of this seems to be less trying to deny he did this and more: “So what if I did? I’m untouchable.”
I pity any lawyer that has to work with him on this case, but I’d also advise they be paid in full up front.
I'm surprised he has a lawyer at all
That's his defense for everything in life. "It doesn't matter if I did it, because I'm allowed to, because I said so. The rules don't apply to me."
@@JargonMadjin apparently he spent all day yesterday trying to find a Miami based attorney. Every last one shot him down.
@@joermnyc Doesn't surprise me that they turned him down, any sane person would
Worked for Clinton
Trumpsters: "He declassified them! It was his right!"
Trump's Own Words: "This is secret, I can't declassify them anymore"
Unfortunately logic and common sense doesn't apply to his "followers"
They’re not followers so much as cultists at this point
It's also his own words he owns them because of the Presidential Records Act. The only real difference is, him claiming innocence is on TV. His admission of guilt requires them not to be illiterate.
He declassified them in his mind.
Our enemy countries continue to watch and listen. It's time to show the WORLD that NO MORE CORRUPTION IN OUR WHITE HOUSE. Vote DeSantis, a True Warrior Patriot, with a respectable history. THE TAXPAYERS ARE HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL THE MILLIONS BEING SPENT ON THE CIRCUS IN MIAMI..
I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear that it wasn’t just 7 indictments as was leaked, but 37. How do you mess up that badly
by being dumber than a box of documents.
The leftwing media wants you to believe that. He had every right as a sitting president to de-classify anything he wanted to. Not hillary or biden can say that. You are being brainwashed. I was on your side until I was finally showed how dishonest the left have been since Trump took office in 2016. I am not blaming you. I blame the outlets you (and I) let brainwash us.
There will be 6 more years or so of investigating Trump. Plenty of time for tons of indictments.
Breaking news : Bidens impeachment just went through
@@user-kr9cg5vc84 going nowhere. those trailer park people in the house can play their banjos until they are red in the face. it isn't happening.
My dad was in the military police. One of his jobs was guarding a facility with classified documents in it. This colossal Neanderthal had them in a bathroom where any Mar-A-Lago staff could have access to them.
This comment is Neanderthal slander.
What about the garage or other random places?
@@C0Y0TE3 Biden returned them when they were discovered. What part of that are you having a tough time with?
@@CelynBrum It's not Slander when there is proof lol. He has to be convicted before you can call him a criminal, but there is actually released testimony and pictures of classified documents in a staff bathroom lol That is not slander works you only have to prove there is like 50% chance its true, and they proved with out a reasonable doubt that it was there, staff new it was there, and already provided pictures and testimony to a grand jury lol
@@Zalzany Neanderthals were smarter then Trump lmao
The most amazing thing about all this (I mean, besides it happening at all) is that the DOJ gave him an absolutely absurd amount of leeway. At ANY POINT he could have complied and gotten away with, at most, a fine and a hefty amount of side-eye. If this were any regular person, they'd have already been black-bagged and sent to an undisclosed location until they complied.
"This was secret- secret information, look at this!"
Anybody sane who hears Trump say that should run.
But not too close. You shouldn't see this but look at it. Its classified.
Apparently you can't differentiate between 'showing' the premise of a document, and actually 'showing' the document
Anyone sane would be instantly reporting it to the gov so they can make very clear than they had no involvement in it.
@e- w- ok Stasi
@@russell-gt1dy you know trump feels like, "damnit I should have just gave them back to NARA a year ago" lol
He didn't even read them or use them, what a buffoon
I wonder if Trump realize that calling them the "Beautiful Mind Boxes" was not a compliment.
People make fun of him, directly to his face. ALL THE TIME!
What gets me the most about this is that he had so many opportunities to just give back the documents and move on without any bother in the world.
Had he, at any point prior to his house search, returned these documents they would've probably just let it go.
I truly think he was baiting the justice department to go after him so he can boost his poll numbers and continue the whole “deep state is persecuting me” schtick. He has gotten away (so far) with everything else so he probably never considered actually going to prison for the rest of his life.
What's most striking to me is that some of the documents are so sensitive that the classification markers themselves are classified.
So do you have to declassify the markers before you can declassify the document?
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This was an excellent summary of the indictments and why Trump is in such trouble. I wish all his supporters would, if not read the indictments for themselves, watch this and see that it’s not a witch hunt, or political warfare, but an actual crime that deserves and needs to be litigation for the good of our democracy.
Even if they read them it wouldn't make a difference. His supporters have the opinion that Trump should be above the Law; they always have.
Yea I agree with the above comment it’s not that they don’t have access to the information or the capability to understand they willing choose to be ignorant and don’t care because he’s their guy and will do anything including storming our capitol to protect him
@@arturoaguilar6002I'm pretty sure most of his supporters are illiterate to begin with.
Trump supporters read? You do jest? lol
These people are operating at the most basic animal level. They’re barely even conscious, only the tribalist primate social systems are working, and then a few programs run in the background to tie shoes and use a tv remote
I’m dying laughing that he says lawyers don’t take notes. Lawyers who like being sued for malpractice don’t take notes I guess.
I love that no Republican is saying that he's innocent, just that it's somehow unfair to charge Trump for committing espionage when he obviously did...
I am sure there are Republicans out there that think somehow all those boxes that were confiscated from Mar a largo were full of playboy mags.
Depending on how you use the word espionage I would at the very least consider that debatable. It is however, irrelevant, since the crimes that he's accused of are the unlawful retention of documents and obstruction of justice.
Oh they do. I've seen many people saying, "Those were his under the Presidential Records Act!!! He didn't do anything wrong! WITCH HUNT!"
@@suicune2001 Man, I wish there was a witch hunt for Trump. Wrapping up 2023 with a public river dunking would be great.
Major cases like the Clinton email scandal make it clear that prosecution in the case of mishandling classified information isn't recognized as a crime per se. You can't selectively prosecute people based on whether you like them or not. Prosecution is likely going to have to prove a line of malicious intent for any charges to stick.
Imagine being Nauta. You're staring down the barrel of some serious jail time for a man who will throw you under the bus as soon as your use to him is done.
In fact, he's probably doing exactly that *right now* as we speak.
I feel nothing but schadenfreude for the man. How many lawyers, contractors, cronies, etc. has Trump very blatantly turned on and screwed over in the past?
Anyone who puts themselves in a position to be thrown under the bus by him at this point, has nobody but themselves to blame. Thinking "he won't do it to me!" Is pure hubris.
@@MrClickity I wouldn't trust Trump to pick me up a chocolate bar from down the road. He'd probably get me a Snickers, when I wanted a Kit Kat, claim it was the correct order, tell me a Snickers was better, then insist that I try the Snickers, despite my peanut allergy.
@@franzfanz You assume the Snickers would make it back from the store. You'd get an empty wrapper with chocolate fingerprints on it.
@@MrClickity "Surely the face eating leopard won't eat _my_ face!"
Lmao, that staffer was really giving off "please stop telling me this stuff" vibes
"LALALALA THEY CAN'T INDICT ME IF I'M YELLING AND SHOVING FINGERS INTO MY EARS LALALA I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITH YOU"
He was probably reading the covering note on the secret files that reads something like 'TOP SECRET IF YOU DON'T HAVE CLEARANCE AND ARE READING THIS STAY PUT THE BLACK HELICOPTERS ARE ON THEIR WAY.'
You are the first party covering this that noticed not all classified materials found at mar a lago by FBI were discussed in indictment. We may never no what was the worst stuff he was shuffling through in his bathroom and leaving in public areas.
This video is hard to get through. If trump doesn't go to jail for this then the entire classification and information security system is broken and moot. If a "normal" DoD employee had done this then even a plea deal would have bought them a MINIMUM of life in prison.
Thats what a lifetime of privledge and failing up gets you
How anyone still defends this man is beyond me. He so clearly improperly handled the documents, at the very least. This all assumes there's no evidence of him knowingly showing these things to people for personal gain.
But even just grabbing them and leaving them sitting around in a very public location like the resort, sitting unguarded, is something that even his most ardent supporter should be against because of how much it could damage national security.
They're not defending him, they're defending the primacy of a political ideology.
There is evidence that he was knowingly showing things to people who did not have security clearance in order to 'make himself look cool' at the very least. However, idiots will defend him forever because they're idiots who bought into the grift so hard it's become a defining characteristic of their very existence, and admitting Trump swindled them would be like chopping off their own arm.
Here's the thing, they're not defending what he did. They're defending him despite what he did. Recent poll showed 80% of Republican voters. When asked said that Trump should be allowed to be president even if these allegations were true.
@@troubadour723 You are close, but not there yet. We are defending him.... BECAUSE HE DID NOTHING SPECIAL. He waved some papers in front of some people. He did what most presidents and vice presidents, and secretaries of state, and senators, did previously, with nothing happening to them. That's why we 'still defend him'.
@@troubadour723 exactly trump as a political figure has become so much more than who he is as a person… even though our founding fathers wanted to avoid exactly that when they wrote the constitution
The other notable thing here is that what Trump did was *so* egregious that Attorney-Client Privilege was found not to apply for Corcoran - that alone is *yuge*
I spit out my covfefe when I learned that
I think it was waved because Trump asked him or had him break the law. That's one of rare cases that a client can forfeit attorney client priviledge.
@@siamak81he's been asking his attorney's to break laws for a long time. It's probably why they all quit.
I mean of course. The Prosecuters want to assure them they aren’t threatening them and nothing bad will happen.
Because the Prosecution is already on record as threatening lawyers
@@mrbubbles6468 what?!?!? Are you talking threats made to trump's lawyers?
It seems like trump just cannot comprehend the idea that his actions can have consequences, probably because he has done horrible things with zero consequences all his life
His daddy's money probably got him out of a lot of trouble. I mean, it handled all his failed businesses too so I wouldnt be surprised that he just doesnt understand what consequences are..
@@D_Quinnyup he has literally said he thinks he could shoot someone on 45th street and get away with it. I think he actually believes this
It's one of the classic signs of a narcissism.
Seriously dangerous affluenza.
He’s a narcissist
As an archivist I’m appalled. The sheer lack of everything I stand for is mind blowing. Im hoping this sticks!
2 impeachments. 2 indictments. I hope there are consequences eventually...
Same! Old saying of third times a charm is in my head so...
Two indictments *so far*.
@@timward4301 "Two indictments *so far*"
This! A couple more lawsuits shaping up, so Mr. Donald J. is going to be a busy guy for awhile. Bigly busy.
Unless the judge gets replaced, I’m not confident that this indictment will result in any consequences.
@@Highfalutinloyd it wouldn’t result in any consequences anyway, I guarantee even the most anti-trump judge in the country wouldn’t dare give him prison time.
You must remember that nobody ever could tell Trump what to do. He was probably told to return the documents, in which he simply flipped that request off. His ego has been, is, and will always be his worst enemy.
From what I've read the National Archives and Records Administration politely asked for the documents, long before the FBI got involved, FBI was the last resort. He could have said "here they are, forgot I had them" and it would have been the end of the matter
Well of course he was told. His attorneys were actively trying to return documents to the Govt even as Trump himself was trying to convince them not to. So he resorted to hiding the documents from his own attorneys.
@@MultiMidden There were "negotiations" with NARA. AKA wanting money for their return.
And his dishonesty.
I think it's very telling of the sycophants that surround him. Insanely weak and cowardly, definitely not their best. Or idk, maybe it is 🤷♂️
i seriously don’t understand how anybody could possibly still support this guy
They defended him for everything else, so now they're sort of entrenched.
The birtherism was bad enough for me.
The VP of oath keepers was an FBI informant.
It’s a cult. I firmly believe that.
About 90% of it is just because they hate minorities. Other 10% is conspiracy theory lunatics. 100% is people with no consistent principals.
Trump and his supporters are an entangled couple. They are forces that feed from each other. Admitting fault would destroy them.
Regardless of any defense or excuse Trump and Republicans make, voters need to ask themselves why Trump wanted nuclear and war secrets and fought so hard to keep them to a point of being charged with a crime and do they want a that person back in office with more access to this type of information.
I agree, but I don't think most of his voters really understand what's going on in the first place. Did you see the fox headlines? They think this is Biden trying to imprison his political rival...
Yes. Yes I would. If it's between him and biden I'll take Trump all day. The real question is do you want an 80+ year old, dementia riddled, little girl hair sniffing, bribe taking, chronic liar who is in bed with the Chinese communist party, is depleting our oil reserves, depleting our weapons reserves and leaving us vulnerable by perpetuating an endless war in Ukraine that botches withdrawals from Afghanistan and makes us the laughing stock of the world that weaponises the alphabet agencies to go after his political rivals and continues to allow the southern border to look as free flowing as Niagara falls which perpetuates human/sex/drug trafficking, that has a degenerate for a son that is also corrupt af that is handing biden dirty money from his own illegal dealings on the side adding to the utter cesspool of corruption this administration is. Oh and that has also through his own domestic fiscal "policies" has caused my grocery bills to double in the past two years.
Don't know about you, but I don't want to sign up for 4 more years of that. As ridiculous as Trump is, I'll take him over biden.
I think the answer is that he has the mind of a 10 year old kid, so he just thought it was cool.
@Georgije2 That is the single most generous explanation that could be given.
It likely also isn't the truth of the matter. We know Trump has financial assets in other countries. We know Trump kept this documentation.
We have reasons to suspect that he has some connections or intrest in him by Putin. This is because of the known cyber attacks during the 2016 election traced back to Russia.
Through currently at this time unverified documentation we have reason to believe Trump shifted around classified documents to retain these specific documents. That the documents are significantly dangerous for the details to become leaked is undeniable. We have confirmed document types for some of these documents.
We can not assume he kept these documents only for childish clout. We have currently unverified documentation that he actually showed others some of these secrets. That at minimum if true (which it likely is) shows he was using the documents for personal gain by either improving his own status in the eyes of others or implying loyalty those he shared with.
@@Georgije2 i can respect that.
I work withing the Judiciary and we are prohibited from bringing anything home. Anything. It is grounds for removal the mere physical act of going outside the building with any documents I had access. This is incredible
Exactly… Obviously the focus should be on what he illegally held in those boxes… but the surprise was how many boxes at his residences, but also the people who helped him remove & transfer & store elsewhere those boxes…not innocent either…
I was so worried LegalEagle had gotten sick of breaking down Trump doing crimes 😂
I mean, he probably is because how can he not be, but at least he still makes them lol
There are so many it's hard to keep track, not to mention his base loves his crimes and will defend him violently if they feel like have to lol why? Who knows, my guess daddyissues
It is a gold mine of content. It draws eyes and there is never ending amount of material
We have gone A LONG WAY from what should be possible. A president with open disdain for the laws of our country.
@@fuzzynippleman That's not new. It's just new that he thought he was above them.
At Mara Lago, DO NOT say" I'm gonna go to the bathroom and take a leak."
I was a classified documentation clerk in the Air Force back in the 1980s. My job was not only to properly transfer classified documentation through the mail to ensure a complete chain of receipt (some level of classification could be transferred through the mail, and others such as TOP Secret/SCI could not), but to also inspect all of the facilities on post for the proper storage of classified documentation. I did the last part periodically by sneaking around post at night after everyone went home, and checking the various offices to see if they had properly secured their documents. In two years of doing that job, I only found one safe that was not properly secured and never found any classified documentation laying around. This was an Air Force Base with Military Aviation and Nuclear assets during the cold war. I reported the one incident to the commander, and I'm not sure what happened - probably an Article 15 given the sensitivity of the item in question (nonjudicial punishment).
What you detailed Trump doing made my head spin around.
Trumpists during the 2016 election campaign: "HILLARY'S EMAILS! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"
Trumpists during this entire shitshow: "Whoa now hold on there let's not be too hasty here :)"
"We didnt lock up hillary despite everything we said she did, so you shouldnt lock up trump based on everything YOU SAY he did!"
Hypocrites all.
Any elected official who commits a crime should lose their job regardless of party.
The entire US Justice System is devolving into more of a joke than it ever was.
It’s been said about iT: “Every accusation is a confession…” need to add, OR, is an announcement to engage in said behavior.
Hillary supporters during the 2016 campaign: Trump collided with Russia!
So what's your point? Are you one of those "vote blue no matter who" folks? Or are you willing to call out both sides? I do recalled a certain other president having classified documents in his garage. Is he being indicted? Nope.
I wouldn't vote for Trump but honestly I can't stand this "my shit don't stink" hypocrisy anymore as if all politicians on both sides aren't corrupt.
It's ALWAYS projection with those people, always.
Just unbelievable when you stop to consider there is no chance in any universe that Trump was ever going to read a single word on a single one of those documents.
Nah, there are recordings of him reading them in other people's presence.
He had no patience for his daily briefs back when he had an actual job to do, but these are the most "interesting" docs he saw and saved.
True. Not only is he illiterate but he couldn't handle daily security briefings dumbed down for him.
Are we really sure that Trump wouldn't use any of these documents for blackmail, political leverage, vengeance, or obtaining favors? There's no evidence he has done this but I'm not sure any assessment of his character would rule it out.
He kept the one's that he knew he could sell or blackmail someone for his own monetary gain. Just ask Jared what he did to get that 2 billion from the Saudi's. Trump hates America, he'd do anything to sell it out for his personal gain or to punish a perseived enemy.
He may not have read them, but he showed them to unauthorized people who did.