Hey everybody! Three updates! As mentioned in the video - I have some more detail. Charging is capped at 170kW DC for the base model Model Y. Power and torque is same as the entry-level Model 3 SR+, so 220kW of power and 420Nm of torque. The price of the car also went up after we filmed, it’s now $72,300 before on-road costs. Thanks for your patience!
@@Rollaroundtap I also came to the same conclusion but then I considered that perhaps German roads are better than Australian roads. Probably can get away with stiffer suspension over there… Just a guess of course.
After seeing the Model Y for the first time at Tesla Brighton last week, I actually prefer the look of the Model Y to the Model 3 ... which I was not expecting.
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I ordered the Model Y with 20" induction wheels and noticed the majority of RUclips reviewers from AU and the UK mentioning the ride quality as a significant issue. Just like in this review. This week, I went for a test drive with the 19" standard and felt the ride quality was pretty good. I have a Toyota RAV4 Hybrid to compare and contrast, and it's not too far off, granted I only spend 20 minutes in the car! I found that I actually really like 19" standard wheels in person on a white car and am quite pleased with the ride quality. I'm proceeding with the purchase.
Think the problem with all these road tests is they watch the other reviews and then just say the same, like the ride quality, drove a couple of Y’s before I ordered mine, didn’t think the ride was harsh, ordered a long range white with white interior with factory tow bar, expected delivery is Oct-December
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@@petefraser3013 just picked up my Model Y this Morning, there have been reports that the suspension has been changed, I would absolutely say my new one is a lot better than the one I test drove in March, so I’m very happy with the ride, no pot hole crash bangs as of yet
Drove the car with the 19's yesterday and can report its a much nicer drive. It was really pleasant. I hate my Model 3 Performance on Sydney roads and think I might let it go for a Y. I'm waiting for the LR to upgrade that one but have ordered a SR with 19's to get by till then. Congrats on the little girl; we had one 4 months ago which is why we ordered the Y.
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Thanks for a great review, Paul - you continue to set the standard for thoroughness, honesty and accuracy, and all with healthy dollops of good humour and personality. Ive been hanging-out for a Y for a while, but had to buy something ICE (Outback). Poor ride would be a deal-breaker for me. I'm pretty sure that when Sandy Munro did his thorough tear-down of the Y he mentioned that the chassis seemed to have fittings for an adaptive suspension, which would come close to making the car an exceptional machine. Like you, I think a HUD ought to be mandatory, and the stop-watching-the road to check your speed and other things is a serious flaw. I also think the car is not attractive, but I've seen uglier (like the first BMW X6, for example), but the interior is so very practical. When I'm ready to replace my Outback, this is one of the first vehicles I'll be looking at.
I own a Shanghai Model Y Long Range, the ride is very crashy. I have ordered a Berlin-built Model Y Performance because surprisingly, even with 21” wheels it’s more comfortable than the Long Range.
@@Ianmundo yes, i agree herei southern california i recently drove a MYLR and. MYP. The ride in the MYP was definitely smoother. Although i didn’t have any complaints with the MYLR ride either. Give me a stiffer suspension over a softer ride anyday. Personal preference i guess.
This ridiculous story that you have to look away from the road to see the speedo is getting so old…. Any time you move your eyes you are effectively blind. Your mind just makes up the image in between. Looking down or slightly left and down is exactly the same. If you can’t learn to glance in a different place you can buy a phone mount that replaces the top cover of the steering column, and an app will function as second display.
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My Model Y Long Range has 19" wheels, and the ride is SO much more comfortable than the one I took for a test drive with 20" wheels. The Dealer recommended to get it with 19" wheels for both comfort and range.
I have a model 3. I agree on the harsh ride, and I like firm suspension. In addition the steering lock is poor and the rear visibility is non existent. Otherwise it's a great car. Not just good, great.
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I ordered a Tesla Y but canceled it after a test drive in summer as we found it too hot with a glass roof with no cover. It definitely needs a heads up display as you continuously are taking your eyes off the road because everything is on the centre screen.
I've ordered my Model Y last week. This will be my first ever EV never even had hybrid. Went to the Tesla dealership in Richmond and drove the 19" Standard model and was blown away. Felt very similar to my mums car which is an BMW X4.
I'd suggest checking the tyre pressure - one thing that caught out a lot of people in the uk was the initial model y's (including the press vehicles) came over from china with the tyre pressure at 50psi rather than the recommended 42
I can confirm this, mine came with over 3.7bars instead of the recommended 2.8bars. Big difference after letting some air out of the tyres, not sure why they overinflate it by this much though
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@@Stern0n I think that they over-inflate the tyres for shipping. The cars are ratchet-strapped to eye hooks on the deck of the ship, hence the over-inflation of the tyres…..however, for me, it is unforgivable that the TESLA PDI isn’t correcting this prior to handling over your car for delivery, but hey what can you expect for £60k….?
@@ianmcfadyen2609 Yes, you are fully right. Probably that is the reason and should be adjusted before handing the car over. I wonder if the journalists who review the car check this before testing (note that the car only shows you a warning when the tyres have less-than-required air in them but not if you over-inflate) and I see many reviews giving a bad press to the MY for stiff ride. I switched from a Lexus RX450 with AVS suspension, and frankly don't feel much difference - even as the Lexus is supposed to be one of the more comfortable SUVs out there.
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Such a deal breaker to me that they removed the radar systems. They work way better in bad weather, particularly for emergency braking or when you can't see the car in front under a very heavy fog. Cameras don't see through that, radar can.
Based on how you critcised the hell out of no physical controls recently in other cars, then this 'one touch only screen does all' approach must drive you insane!
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The rear door locks ( and front locks) are power from the 12 volt battery not the 400 volt drive battery so it's unlikely to be and an unlocking problem even if the main drive battery is exhausted. Most of the other issues mentioned have been fixed by over the air updates some time ago.
Great review, Paul. Subjectively speaking, it's a funky looking car, but the lack of head-up-display is a deal-breaker for me. Disappointing about the ride too, especially since it's not a performance-oriented model.
agree. sounds like the berlin model has slightly softer suspension, and possibly the austin model as well. hopefully it's something they keep working on because I agree, it should absolutely have a softer suspension. no need for performance level stiffness in the standard/long range models.
Ive ordered mine and since I’m a bmw M lover i guess im overjoyed to hear the ride is firm. But I appreciate not everyone is like me so its strange that Tesla didn’t add a dampening feature
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Forgot to add 'nice review'. Another issue i found really annoying is the need to take your eyes off the road to look left for speedo and other things. And yes, trying to change settings on the screen while driving is very dangerous - i can't recall the nbr of near misses i had during my 3 day drive. A traditional screen in front of the steering wheel would be essential for me. I'd have to look at the after market options. And while I'm at it, the voice cmd system sucks - not only is it not intuitive, you have to put on a slight American drawl for the computer to recognise your voice. It's these small issues that really detract from what is essentially a great car (but too expensive for what it is).
Watched for a few minutes. You were using your right hand to demo the functions of the screen. I am also right handed, if I were to drive the car and use my left hand for the operation, it may feel very uncomfortable.
Love your honest reviews, Paul. From a design perspective I think Tesla should have differentiated the headlights and tail lights to make it look distinctly different from the Model 3. It’s hard not to say it’s anything other than a bloated Model 3. Nonetheless, it’ll sell hundreds of thousands of units because of its practicality. If there’s one thing Tesla are good at, it’s doing things differently and challenging the norm - the Saab of current day IMHO.
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It is said that if you put 10kg of weight in the frunk and 30kg of weight in the bottom of the trunk, the ride quality actually improves. Please test it with some rubber barbell weights. Thank you.
Why add something that it doesn't need and is detrimental to the range? It's like adding legs to the first car just because we were used to riding horses.
Mountain Pass Performance in Canada does suspension upgrades for Tesla Model S/3/Y and even a lift kit for the 3/Y. Unplugged Performance in the US have upgrades available as well.
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Another car where one is looking at a screen and not the road ,that should be illegal. Another tech machine that if the screen fails ,your stuffed , all the control via the screen ,got to be a problem . 60.grand for a base model ,one surely has to look at what you get in a petrol equivalent. Design wise ,the front looks like a Toy story car ,and where will the future designs take it ? Style and good looks always plays a big part in car buying . How will these things devalue over time ?
Sold my 2020 Performance 3 to go for a Y LR with 19" this March 2022. Ride comfort and range. I purchased the acceleration boost upgrade then after I took delivery. Happy with the trade off between practicality and fun acceleration / range.
@@michaelr6345 I paid €1800 in-app purchase to bring the 0-60 from 4.8 to about 4.2 seconds. You do notice the difference! I think of all the paid software upgrades it's the best value:fun proposition!
Paul - are you going to add a fer accessories to yours. I think the electric frunk kit (aftermarket) would make the MY. I think its worth doing. Also I see there are a number of suspension (aftermarket) kits available but all seem like a fairly major install. I think as time goes on and these get more popular in AU/NZ we will see easier/better strut kits become available. Love your reviews and cant wait for a few more MY reviews on your new one.
A very informative, (even for a new owner) and enjoyable review - thank you. The dash cam requires you to hoot when an incident occurs, a period before and after the event is recorded. Also, a solid state storage device to replace the existing stick located in the glove box. So right about the app Paul; brilliant. As for it's looks: for me, the MY is much better looking than the M3.(of course the S is the real beauty of range.) I recently received my Red/White LR with Gemini wheels which I run naked. I never tire of looking at the car from different angles. I agree that the car is not as beautiful as the sum of those lovely different angles; I see echoes of 60's and 80's Italian styling. Perhaps I have an over fertile imagination. What really matters is that I love the car to bits whether in or out and, of course, she is wonderful to drive....sometimes I have to pinch myself to prove I'm not dreaming.
Took a Y for a test drive last Thursday & was massively impressed so placed an order as soon as I got back to the showroom. I felt that the ride comfort was excellent & don't think its that firm at all. I currently have a 2020 Outlander Phev & the ride is similar just the Y felt massively more premium like a BMW. Excellent review just hoping the FBT EV Legislation goes thru now.
My 2020 M3 (US) has voice recognition navigation. No need to type in destinations. Also, previous destinations are retained in memory for call up. Car location in the app is a bit sketchy. Formerly, I could monitor my wife while she drove home, with the car centered on the screen as the map scrolled. Something changed with an update and now the app bullseyes the car, but then the map is static and the car drives off the screen and must be “chased” to see it’s progress. Another shortcoming (common to all 3 & Y at least) is no backup, cross traffic warning. While the rear camera view is fairly broad, a head check is necessary. To be clear however, it does alert as objects are approached. And don’t get me started on tire noise and firm ride. On the plus side, my Dual Motor ran 12.2 @ 118mph through the 1/4 mile!
Great review, very informative. I cannot get past the plain dashboard and lack of anything aside from the screen... I could not spend my $ on this. There is so much choice now.
The fact that you can/should charge to 100% every day in this base model Y, due to it's LFP batteries is very important, since you get the full range every day. In the LR and Performance versions the use NMC batteries and they should only be charged to 80% daily and only occasionally to 100%. This means that as a daily commuter you have more range available compared to LR and Performance. This is not mentioned in this test.
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Thanks Paul, really excited for you and for the great honest review. I was contemplating on the model Y and greatest concern is w the ride comfort. Am driving the 5 series G30 where comfort is immaculate. Pls do a video again when you take delivery, fingers crossed the 19 inchers would be noticeably more forgiving.
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Also launched in NZ. Price is strange... you only get the rebate if its not red and don't spec the white seats :/ (Can only get white seats with white exterior, rebate only applies if its under 80k NZD)
For my friends down under - as someone who bought the MYP over other ICE cars, the ride quality is not sublime for the price but what sets the car apart from other ICE or EV cars in the price range: supercharging, autopilot, performance (if you get the fast one) really set it apart.
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Hey Paul I already ordered the Tesla mode Y for the misses and also ordered a Ranger Raptor, I did order before I saw your reviews on both, but we must have good taste in cars, and after seeing your Raptor review I’m getting excited Keep up the good reviews mate
Hey Paul, surprised you didn't mention that you can now get Enhanced Autopilot as an added option. In Australia, it's currently $5,100 which gives you Summon, Auto Lane Change and Auto Park.
Test drive today. Those seats made my back sweaty. Would much prefer a breathable material - real leather or at least this material with quilting/perforated stick or similar. It's basically a return to 70s vinyl - not impressive on an $80k car. Back row seats seem low, and not as much thigh length - meaning comfort for bigger kids/adults not as good with distance. Drives nicely though. Firm, very direct steering, rode potholes nicely. Apparently much better batteries coming next year. I'd take an Ionic 5 over this if I could get one. Or step down in price to an Atto 3 for a runabout.
Paul, if you're a motoring enthusiast and having reviewed all these great cars like the f-pace SVR, why would you buy a minimalist, generic looking electric suv?
The model 3 going over a bump is like driving a bush basher with no suspension. Wonder if anyone thinks the suspension in the Y is any worse than the 3.
I test drove a MYP also MiC and I compared it to my Citroën Grand C4 Picasso with special concern to suspension. The MYP was much more comfortable than the C4, the problem with the C4 is that the suspension is actually too soft making the car "dancing" around on a rough road, the MYP ran the rough road much more comfortable even with higher speed. I ordered a MY LR with the original wheels, I just need to make sure that the wheels are not inflated too much.
Always good review Paul your detailed review is really good and helpful it would be great to see you do a detailed review on the Tesla Model S Plaid the car is insanely fast
Great review thanks, Paul. Noting that the Model Y and the latest version of the Model 3 do not have radars, how do these vehicles perform in foggy conditions using cameras only?
Been waiting for a couple of years for the Y. I hated the terse ride in 2 of my Mercs. Now love my Superb Sportline wagon. I won’t buy the new Tesla until they fix the ride quality. You’re exactly right about the intended market. They need to be a sporty SUV but not at the expense of any comfort. God only knows what the suspension in the Performance must be like. Very disappointing.
Have you considered the EV6? Much better ride quality while still being sporty becauseof local tuning and special dampers. The GT version will also be getting adaptive suspension.
@@ravingmad765 yeah, it is a long wait, though not much worse than expected wait times on a Model Y. On the plus side, you get to drive a Superb while you wait, so it isn't all bad.
Just finally test drove one of these and hated the ride, was really disappointed. I love the tech and interior which is what made me give it a go, but I currently have a Outlander PHEV sport 2023 and the ride/steering is so much better than the tesla. I know you said the ride was a bit stiff but I felt the whole driving experience made it feel like an old car to drive compared to my outlander. Also hated how there was no option to turn down the break regen, no matter what pedal mode your on feels like single pedal driving, horrible. I did try a 2022 one though maybe it has improved since then? shocked this car is so popular when the driving experience feels like that
Wait till aus and nz get the performance variant - coming soon i guess. I haven’t seen any performance reviews in aus or nz yet. If u like this entry car, you’ll love the MYP
How about a spare tire? I didn’t even see a tire repair set or anything like that? One major reason I did get a Toyota hybrid instead of the plug-in hybrid which I wanted to get was that it’s not possible to fit in the plug-in a standard spare tire because of the larger battery. I had to buy the spare wheel myself but I gladly did. Would you be possible to fit one in a Tesla? And to all people that tell me oh you don’t need a spare tire anymore: after only owning my Toyota for about six months we had a very large church event for our daughter which involves me driving about people to and from church and the day before I hit a pedestrian crosswalk doing about 50 km an hour which instantly tore a sidewall of one of my tires in shreds. Didn’t do anything to the wheel or to the car that was the tire fit system Toyota supplies as a standard I would’ve been absolutely f*cked. And no dealer has this tire in stock so it had to be ordered which took three days. But because I had a spare tire it just took me 20 minutes and I could do all the driving needed on that weekend which saved my day and my daughters and the rest of the families weekend. So to me it’s: no spare tire (or at least an emergency tire) absolutely no sale
I'm driving a latest gen Mini Countryman and X5, after test drive model Y on rough NZ road, it's far better ride quality than the Countryman and not as good as X5 but close, dont trust these reviewers and try it yourself
Hey Paul 🙂 Are you able to provide an update as to how you’re finding the Y after owning it for ~10 months and what you think of it as a family car vs something like the Mazda CX9 which you’ve said you really like? Many thanks!
$50,000 USD I wish this was the case in America. Currently if I wanted a Model Y, they’re going for +$60k USD. Don’t get me started on the performance, it’s $70k. I’m hoping to be a Tesla owner one day, as soon as that price comes down. Cheers everyone!
Then you wouldn't like the prices in Denmark, Europe: $74k USD for the cheapest model Y and $83k for the cheapest performance, these prices are with very limited taxes because they are electric, normally you would pay up to 150% taxes
It looks like one of those weird BMW X4/6 models with the “coupe” styling. Not a fan, they could’ve just gone ahead and made a regular SUV, just like how they made a good sedan shape.
You want your model 3 performance 0-100 in 3.3 seconds to float like a boat? Interesting. Everyone I know who’s driven the 3 and Y have loved the planted suspension and handling. It’s literally only the commercial reviews that really whine about this. I would hate for 1.9 tonne of SUv to boat around corners, then add 4 adults and cargo… you just can’t have soft suspension - Without sacrificing a lot of handling at a loaded 2.5 tonne!! Each to their own 😂 if you want a heavy car to handle well, you will generally have a firmer ride. People are also neglecting to consider it has towing capacity. You simply can’t compare rides to a lighter ICE cars. Put 400kg into it and see how it feels. We used to put a 300kg drum in the rear of work SR5 hiluxes to make them bearable… otherwise great review, well spoken as always.… sounds like some people should go spend 4K-6k on some aftermarket suspension solution lol I throughly enjoyed our test drive and poked it through round abouts with absolute surefooted confidence. If they made it soft, people would complain it’s dangerous, heavy and handles like a typical American car 100%
That big *sigh* at the end, I hate how manufacturers are pushing their cars like a video games, get on the hype train and deal with the issues later while so many people happy to pre purchase a car without a test drive. It's madness!
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the hard ride would drive me nuts, my mate has a Polestar2 and it is also hard riding to the point of discomfort. I honestly do not see value in this car and would much prefer a Lexus at the same price or the 2022 RAV 4 hybrid AWD Cruiser we own for $20,000 less.
thank you for sharing your opinion with us. firm ride would put me off, hopefully the next update will be in suspensions made for EV's not designed from the knowledge gained of an ICE where if you have a full tank of fuel changes dynamics to when the tank is empty also the cargo space loaded or not. batteries are heavy and they sit low. i like soft luxury feel in a car personally . . .i don't race in Australia where the speed limit is tightly regulated.
Interesting to see you bought one but you don't really like the styling very much, I guess styling is not a great priority for you. If replacement batteries were free for owners for 10 years, then it would probably be a fairly good investment.
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That's terrible to hear! We didn't have it that bad (and it gets pretty hot in Australia) - but it definitely didn't deflect enough heat. It was very hot to touch in the sun.
@@CarExpertAus Thanks. I managed to get some 3rd party shades to cover them up, but they do sometimes fall off over some huge humps. Works ok but as you highlighted, it doesn't deflect enough heat, or as much as a metal roof IMO. Great vids. Keep 'em coming. Cheers !
Great review Paul, can’t agree with the comments about Speedo location. I’ve ordered one for the same reasons you did, model Y is just a better family car… when you get yours can you suggest a suspension upgrade for a remedy to the harsh ride?
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The outside look is not too bad. Not the most trendy but then that might be a plus fot Tesla and the owner as it will age less quickly. Tesla can keep it up to date with OTA and not worry about fashionable creases on the outside.
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Unplugged Performance and Mountain Pass Performance...both US based (sorry) but they sell a suspension kit for Model 3/Y though shipping might be a deal breaker :( I ordered a Model Y Perf and plan on putting one of these in...prob selling the 21s and getting 20s from TSportsline...own a Model S with the 21s and even with the air suspension, still a stiff ride to say the least!
Hey everybody! Three updates! As mentioned in the video - I have some more detail. Charging is capped at 170kW DC for the base model Model Y. Power and torque is same as the entry-level Model 3 SR+, so 220kW of power and 420Nm of torque. The price of the car also went up after we filmed, it’s now $72,300 before on-road costs. Thanks for your patience!
240kw??? Pretty sure these are the 3D7 motors putting out 194kw.
Also, the Rover approva with dep of transport is only for up to 220kw..
I thought it was 194kw? Whats your source for the 240kw?
Plz lexus RX review as soon as possible
Great review mate! From some German reviews I’ve seen that the performance rides better even tho it’s sitting on 21s and lowered?
@@Rollaroundtap I also came to the same conclusion but then I considered that perhaps German roads are better than Australian roads. Probably can get away with stiffer suspension over there… Just a guess of course.
Every time I’m looking for a car review I scroll passed all of them until I find yours. Great videos 👌🏼
After seeing the Model Y for the first time at Tesla Brighton last week, I actually prefer the look of the Model Y to the Model 3 ... which I was not expecting.
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I ordered the Model Y with 20" induction wheels and noticed the majority of RUclips reviewers from AU and the UK mentioning the ride quality as a significant issue. Just like in this review.
This week, I went for a test drive with the 19" standard and felt the ride quality was pretty good. I have a Toyota RAV4 Hybrid to compare and contrast, and it's not too far off, granted I only spend 20 minutes in the car!
I found that I actually really like 19" standard wheels in person on a white car and am quite pleased with the ride quality. I'm proceeding with the purchase.
Think the problem with all these road tests is they watch the other reviews and then just say the same, like the ride quality, drove a couple of Y’s before I ordered mine, didn’t think the ride was harsh, ordered a long range white with white interior with factory tow bar, expected delivery is Oct-December
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EVERY review I've seen complains about the ride. Major reason why I'm holding off my purchase.
@@petefraser3013 just picked up my Model Y this Morning, there have been reports that the suspension has been changed, I would absolutely say my new one is a lot better than the one I test drove in March, so I’m very happy with the ride, no pot hole crash bangs as of yet
@@petefraser3013 honestly take one for a test drive. I did last week & thought it was not firm at all & placed an order straight away.
Drove the car with the 19's yesterday and can report its a much nicer drive. It was really pleasant. I hate my Model 3 Performance on Sydney roads and think I might let it go for a Y. I'm waiting for the LR to upgrade that one but have ordered a SR with 19's to get by till then. Congrats on the little girl; we had one 4 months ago which is why we ordered the Y.
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Thanks for a great review, Paul - you continue to set the standard for thoroughness, honesty and accuracy, and all with healthy dollops of good humour and personality. Ive been hanging-out for a Y for a while, but had to buy something ICE (Outback). Poor ride would be a deal-breaker for me. I'm pretty sure that when Sandy Munro did his thorough tear-down of the Y he mentioned that the chassis seemed to have fittings for an adaptive suspension, which would come close to making the car an exceptional machine. Like you, I think a HUD ought to be mandatory, and the stop-watching-the road to check your speed and other things is a serious flaw. I also think the car is not attractive, but I've seen uglier (like the first BMW X6, for example), but the interior is so very practical. When I'm ready to replace my Outback, this is one of the first vehicles I'll be looking at.
I own a Shanghai Model Y Long Range, the ride is very crashy. I have ordered a Berlin-built Model Y Performance because surprisingly, even with 21” wheels it’s more comfortable than the Long Range.
@@Ianmundo yes, i agree herei southern california i recently drove a MYLR and. MYP. The ride in the MYP was definitely smoother. Although i didn’t have any complaints with the MYLR ride either. Give me a stiffer suspension over a softer ride anyday. Personal preference i guess.
This ridiculous story that you have to look away from the road to see the speedo is getting so old…. Any time you move your eyes you are effectively blind.
Your mind just makes up the image in between.
Looking down or slightly left and down is exactly the same.
If you can’t learn to glance in a different place you can buy a phone mount that replaces the top cover of the steering column, and an app will function as second display.
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My Model Y Long Range has 19" wheels, and the ride is SO much more comfortable than the one I took for a test drive with 20" wheels. The Dealer recommended to get it with 19" wheels for both comfort and range.
What's the difference in range?
I have a model 3. I agree on the harsh ride, and I like firm suspension. In addition the steering lock is poor and the rear visibility is non existent. Otherwise it's a great car. Not just good, great.
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I ordered a Tesla Y but canceled it after a test drive in summer as we found it too hot with a glass roof with no cover. It definitely needs a heads up display as you continuously are taking your eyes off the road because everything is on the centre screen.
The fact that you have to keep not looking ahead and look at the infotainment system is a show stopper for me really
I've ordered my Model Y last week. This will be my first ever EV never even had hybrid. Went to the Tesla dealership in Richmond and drove the 19" Standard model and was blown away. Felt very similar to my mums car which is an BMW X4.
What's the wait time like in Melbourne for Model Y mate?
I'd suggest checking the tyre pressure - one thing that caught out a lot of people in the uk was the initial model y's (including the press vehicles) came over from china with the tyre pressure at 50psi rather than the recommended 42
I run mine at 39PSI, still stiff as hell
I can confirm this, mine came with over 3.7bars instead of the recommended 2.8bars. Big difference after letting some air out of the tyres, not sure why they overinflate it by this much though
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@@Stern0n I think that they over-inflate the tyres for shipping. The cars are ratchet-strapped to eye hooks on the deck of the ship, hence the over-inflation of the tyres…..however, for me, it is unforgivable that the TESLA PDI isn’t correcting this prior to handling over your car for delivery, but hey what can you expect for £60k….?
@@ianmcfadyen2609 Yes, you are fully right. Probably that is the reason and should be adjusted before handing the car over. I wonder if the journalists who review the car check this before testing (note that the car only shows you a warning when the tyres have less-than-required air in them but not if you over-inflate) and I see many reviews giving a bad press to the MY for stiff ride. I switched from a Lexus RX450 with AVS suspension, and frankly don't feel much difference - even as the Lexus is supposed to be one of the more comfortable SUVs out there.
I received the 2023 Model Y and it comes with a comfort suspension at it is drastically better than the previous model
Have ordered the same color combo on day released. Like you test drove a model 3 and ordered a Y unseen. Thank you for a great review:)
I clicked like for the solid video, and clicked subscribe because of the solid taste in music. Keep it up mate 🙂👏🏻
I like that you compare the ride / stiffness to a BMW M product ! ✅
Well said sir .
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Too bad it is slow AF.. So you have firm ride for nothing 😂
Such a deal breaker to me that they removed the radar systems. They work way better in bad weather, particularly for emergency braking or when you can't see the car in front under a very heavy fog. Cameras don't see through that, radar can.
This is a very thorough and well thought out video review. Thanks for the all the detail you have put it into.
Based on how you critcised the hell out of no physical controls recently in other cars, then this 'one touch only screen does all' approach must drive you insane!
The difference is that Tesla's software isn't utterly garbage like the rest of the auto industry.
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@@andrewdunn3983still no buttons muppet..
The rear door locks ( and front locks) are power from the 12 volt battery not the 400 volt drive battery so it's unlikely to be and an unlocking problem even if the main drive battery is exhausted. Most of the other issues mentioned have been fixed by over the air updates some time ago.
best Australian review of this car, of any Tesla actually
Great review, Paul. Subjectively speaking, it's a funky looking car, but the lack of head-up-display is a deal-breaker for me. Disappointing about the ride too, especially since it's not a performance-oriented model.
F I N A L L Y 🙌🏻🚙 OMG 🙏 What a long wait !! Love you guys 💙 Best Aussie Car Review 👌
agree. sounds like the berlin model has slightly softer suspension, and possibly the austin model as well. hopefully it's something they keep working on because I agree, it should absolutely have a softer suspension. no need for performance level stiffness in the standard/long range models.
Ive ordered mine and since I’m a bmw M lover i guess im overjoyed to hear the ride is firm. But I appreciate not everyone is like me so its strange that Tesla didn’t add a dampening feature
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You are correct sir !
Model Y owners don’t use the cards !! We just use our phone !
Forgot to add 'nice review'. Another issue i found really annoying is the need to take your eyes off the road to look left for speedo and other things. And yes, trying to change settings on the screen while driving is very dangerous - i can't recall the nbr of near misses i had during my 3 day drive. A traditional screen in front of the steering wheel would be essential for me. I'd have to look at the after market options. And while I'm at it, the voice cmd system sucks - not only is it not intuitive, you have to put on a slight American drawl for the computer to recognise your voice. It's these small issues that really detract from what is essentially a great car (but too expensive for what it is).
Watched for a few minutes. You were using your right hand to demo the functions of the screen. I am also right handed, if I were to drive the car and use my left hand for the operation, it may feel very uncomfortable.
where you get from $68900 ? order two weeks ago for $77,881 white with standard options .
Tesla could have definitely used a heads up display along with use some ingenuity to evolve the traditional heads up display
Love your honest reviews, Paul. From a design perspective I think Tesla should have differentiated the headlights and tail lights to make it look distinctly different from the Model 3. It’s hard not to say it’s anything other than a bloated Model 3. Nonetheless, it’ll sell hundreds of thousands of units because of its practicality. If there’s one thing Tesla are good at, it’s doing things differently and challenging the norm - the Saab of current day IMHO.
They are the same part… Tesla is looking for manufacturing efficiency in every stage of the production process.
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@@kristelarabit3511 ..........SPAM!............ this reply is repeated to most and not relevant
It is said that if you put 10kg of weight in the frunk and 30kg of weight in the bottom of the trunk, the ride quality actually improves. Please test it with some rubber barbell weights. Thank you.
That would just about equal the weight of a spare tyre.
Indeed one of the best channels on youtube, I always enjoy watching Paul do his reviews. Brilliant!
Looks a bit dorky to me, like most Tesla’s. Stick a grill or some sort of trim across the front to make it look a bit more finished.
would affect the drag coefficient
Why add something that it doesn't need and is detrimental to the range? It's like adding legs to the first car just because we were used to riding horses.
Stick an engine in and make it looks a bit more finished. Or stick a keyboard on the smart phone so it looks a bit more finished.
@@davidzhang1704 nah teslas are fucken ugly. a lot better evs out there to look at
You can’t get anymore dorky than having a car with a grill😆
Mountain Pass Performance in Canada does suspension upgrades for Tesla Model S/3/Y and even a lift kit for the 3/Y. Unplugged Performance in the US have upgrades available as well.
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Love the fact that Paul is a metal head 🤟 and listens to decent music.
+1 for Korn & Rammstein
Rock on buddy 🤟🤟
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thats annoying not being able to get out from the rear if the power goes. obviously you don't ever want to be in that situation but someone will.
Another car where one is looking at a screen and not the road ,that should be illegal.
Another tech machine that if the screen fails ,your stuffed , all the control via the screen ,got to be a problem .
60.grand for a base model ,one surely has to look at what you get in a petrol equivalent.
Design wise ,the front looks like a Toy story car ,and where will the future designs take it ?
Style and good looks always plays a big part in car buying .
How will these things devalue over time ?
Sold my 2020 Performance 3 to go for a Y LR with 19" this March 2022. Ride comfort and range. I purchased the acceleration boost upgrade then after I took delivery. Happy with the trade off between practicality and fun acceleration / range.
What’s this upgrade Barry? How much was it?
@@michaelr6345 I paid €1800 in-app purchase to bring the 0-60 from 4.8 to about 4.2 seconds. You do notice the difference! I think of all the paid software upgrades it's the best value:fun proposition!
@@barryjdwyer Cool, thanks for that!
Paul - are you going to add a fer accessories to yours. I think the electric frunk kit (aftermarket) would make the MY. I think its worth doing. Also I see there are a number of suspension (aftermarket) kits available but all seem like a fairly major install. I think as time goes on and these get more popular in AU/NZ we will see easier/better strut kits become available. Love your reviews and cant wait for a few more MY reviews on your new one.
Thumbs up for your music tastes alone Paul!
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A very informative, (even for a new owner) and enjoyable review - thank you. The dash cam requires you to hoot when an incident occurs, a period before and after the event is recorded. Also, a solid state storage device to replace the existing stick located in the glove box. So right about the app Paul; brilliant.
As for it's looks: for me, the MY is much better looking than the M3.(of course the S is the real beauty of range.) I recently received my Red/White LR with Gemini wheels which I run naked. I never tire of looking at the car from different angles. I agree that the car is not as beautiful as the sum of those lovely different angles; I see echoes of 60's and 80's Italian styling. Perhaps I have an over fertile imagination. What really matters is that I love the car to bits whether in or out and, of course, she is wonderful to drive....sometimes I have to pinch myself to prove I'm not dreaming.
you can change that dashcam hoot in the settings-
Love the music choices! So good
I have only ever test driven the 19" wheel version and it was very good.
Took a Y for a test drive last Thursday & was massively impressed so placed an order as soon as I got back to the showroom. I felt that the ride comfort was excellent & don't think its that firm at all. I currently have a 2020 Outlander Phev & the ride is similar just the Y felt massively more premium like a BMW. Excellent review just hoping the FBT EV Legislation goes thru now.
I agree, same experience and ordered.
Lol
Was it on 19 or 20 inchers?
My 2020 M3 (US) has voice recognition navigation. No need to type in destinations. Also, previous destinations are retained in memory for call up. Car location in the app is a bit sketchy. Formerly, I could monitor my wife while she drove home, with the car centered on the screen as the map scrolled. Something changed with an update and now the app bullseyes the car, but then the map is static and the car drives off the screen and must be “chased” to see it’s progress. Another shortcoming (common to all 3 & Y at least) is no backup, cross traffic warning. While the rear camera view is fairly broad, a head check is necessary. To be clear however, it does alert as objects are approached. And don’t get me started on tire noise and firm ride. On the plus side, my Dual Motor ran 12.2 @ 118mph through the 1/4 mile!
Great review, very informative. I cannot get past the plain dashboard and lack of anything aside from the screen... I could not spend my $ on this. There is so much choice now.
+1, it's just too plain and boring (not to mention much less functional)
It does have a mechanical release, yes it is below the pocket liner of rear seats.
The fact that you can/should charge to 100% every day in this base model Y, due to it's LFP batteries is very important, since you get the full range every day. In the LR and Performance versions the use NMC batteries and they should only be charged to 80% daily and only occasionally to 100%. This means that as a daily commuter you have more range available compared to LR and Performance. This is not mentioned in this test.
“Almost like the road isn’t wet !”
Yep … I’m astonished with the grip on my MY (Hankook tyres) 👍
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Thanks Paul, really excited for you and for the great honest review. I was contemplating on the model Y and greatest concern is w the ride comfort. Am driving the 5 series G30 where comfort is immaculate. Pls do a video again when you take delivery, fingers crossed the 19 inchers would be noticeably more forgiving.
wheels help!
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There are adaptive suspension kits for the model, I want a longer range, but with LiFeP Batteries
Hi Paul can you do a review on the BYD atto3 really keen on your view and experience on it
Also launched in NZ. Price is strange... you only get the rebate if its not red and don't spec the white seats :/
(Can only get white seats with white exterior, rebate only applies if its under 80k NZD)
For my friends down under - as someone who bought the MYP over other ICE cars, the ride quality is not sublime for the price but what sets the car apart from other ICE or EV cars in the price range: supercharging, autopilot, performance (if you get the fast one) really set it apart.
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What about something simple like range? 😂 EV junk
change front tyres to 275/35/21 and rears to 295/35/21 will help. Ordered model Y performance as well
Hai Paul hope the 2023 model Y driving quality will improve . Hope you get the new version
This might sound dumb, but I don't like how thick the steering wheels are. Something with less girth lol imo would feel more comfortable
Have you tried it? The steering wheel is magnificent!
@@robertwalkley4665 I haven’t actually, so maybe it is actually nice. I was just assuming I wouldn’t like it
@@BSingh-on4qr Yeah, go check one out in person if you can, you might love it!
I think the screen is a lack of feature. and is a deal breaker. the expense is driver distraction
I test drove one yesterday with 19 inch wheels .. ride wasn’t too bad . I ordered mine with 20 inch dunno whether I should change back to 19
Hey Paul
I already ordered the Tesla mode Y for the misses and also ordered a Ranger Raptor, I did order before I saw your reviews on both, but we must have good taste in cars, and after seeing your Raptor review I’m getting excited
Keep up the good reviews mate
Is your favourite colour blue as well? 😂
CarExpert yeah kind of
Iv ordered Blue for the Raptor and just plain white with black interior for the Tesla, with optioned wheels
CarExpert great minds think alike 😂
TA SD the cyber truck has been cancelled for Australia, why don’t you know that
Hey Paul, surprised you didn't mention that you can now get Enhanced Autopilot as an added option. In Australia, it's currently $5,100 which gives you Summon, Auto Lane Change and Auto Park.
You obviously struggle at driving yourself..
@@hobo1704 just a general statement. But thinks ya hobo.
Test drive today.
Those seats made my back sweaty. Would much prefer a breathable material - real leather or at least this material with quilting/perforated stick or similar. It's basically a return to 70s vinyl - not impressive on an $80k car.
Back row seats seem low, and not as much thigh length - meaning comfort for bigger kids/adults not as good with distance.
Drives nicely though. Firm, very direct steering, rode potholes nicely.
Apparently much better batteries coming next year.
I'd take an Ionic 5 over this if I could get one. Or step down in price to an Atto 3 for a runabout.
Paul, if you're a motoring enthusiast and having reviewed all these great cars like the f-pace SVR, why would you buy a minimalist, generic looking electric suv?
Hahahaha, how hammered were you that you couldn’t tell your wife where you were 😂
The model 3 going over a bump is like driving a bush basher with no suspension. Wonder if anyone thinks the suspension in the Y is any worse than the 3.
I test drove a MYP also MiC and I compared it to my Citroën Grand C4 Picasso with special concern to suspension.
The MYP was much more comfortable than the C4, the problem with the C4 is that the suspension is actually too soft making the car "dancing" around on a rough road, the MYP ran the rough road much more comfortable even with higher speed. I ordered a MY LR with the original wheels, I just need to make sure that the wheels are not inflated too much.
The 20 inch wheels look amazing but make the ride MUCH harsher. 19 inch look almost as good and give a plush ride. 👍
Always good review Paul your detailed review is really good and helpful it would be great to see you do a detailed review on the Tesla Model S Plaid the car is insanely fast
23 out of 35 min of review is while car is stationary. says a lot about our changing preferences.
Great review thanks, Paul.
Noting that the Model Y and the latest version of the Model 3 do not have radars, how do these vehicles perform in foggy conditions using cameras only?
I love it! What colour did you order Paul?
Been waiting for a couple of years for the Y. I hated the terse ride in 2 of my Mercs. Now love my Superb Sportline wagon. I won’t buy the new Tesla until they fix the ride quality. You’re exactly right about the intended market. They need to be a sporty SUV but not at the expense of any comfort. God only knows what the suspension in the Performance must be like. Very disappointing.
I’ve had my Superb Sportline wagon for almost 5 years & totally agree with your assessment. I traded my Merc GLC for pretty much the same reason.
Have you considered the EV6? Much better ride quality while still being sporty becauseof local tuning and special dampers. The GT version will also be getting adaptive suspension.
@@amperformance7998 Just wish I could actually buy one. They are so limited.
@@andrewd7586 love my superb sportsline. Such a stealth car.
@@ravingmad765 yeah, it is a long wait, though not much worse than expected wait times on a Model Y.
On the plus side, you get to drive a Superb while you wait, so it isn't all bad.
Wish the 7 seater version is available for Australia, too bad.
Just finally test drove one of these and hated the ride, was really disappointed. I love the tech and interior which is what made me give it a go, but I currently have a Outlander PHEV sport 2023 and the ride/steering is so much better than the tesla. I know you said the ride was a bit stiff but I felt the whole driving experience made it feel like an old car to drive compared to my outlander.
Also hated how there was no option to turn down the break regen, no matter what pedal mode your on feels like single pedal driving, horrible.
I did try a 2022 one though maybe it has improved since then? shocked this car is so popular when the driving experience feels like that
I like your music style with rammstein and Korn!
Me too
Wait till aus and nz get the performance variant - coming soon i guess. I haven’t seen any performance reviews in aus or nz yet. If u like this entry car, you’ll love the MYP
How about a spare tire? I didn’t even see a tire repair set or anything like that?
One major reason I did get a Toyota hybrid instead of the plug-in hybrid which I wanted to get was that it’s not possible to fit in the plug-in a standard spare tire because of the larger battery.
I had to buy the spare wheel myself but I gladly did. Would you be possible to fit one in a Tesla?
And to all people that tell me oh you don’t need a spare tire anymore: after only owning my Toyota for about six months we had a very large church event for our daughter which involves me driving about people to and from church and the day before I hit a pedestrian crosswalk doing about 50 km an hour which instantly tore a sidewall of one of my tires in shreds. Didn’t do anything to the wheel or to the car that was the tire fit system Toyota supplies as a standard I would’ve been absolutely f*cked. And no dealer has this tire in stock so it had to be ordered which took three days. But because I had a spare tire it just took me 20 minutes and I could do all the driving needed on that weekend which saved my day and my daughters and the rest of the families weekend. So to me it’s: no spare tire (or at least an emergency tire) absolutely no sale
I'm driving a latest gen Mini Countryman and X5, after test drive model Y on rough NZ road, it's far better ride quality than the Countryman and not as good as X5 but close, dont trust these reviewers and try it yourself
Hey Paul 🙂
Are you able to provide an update as to how you’re finding the Y after owning it for ~10 months and what you think of it as a family car vs something like the Mazda CX9 which you’ve said you really like? Many thanks!
Hoping to have the Model Y ownership update live soon!
@@CarExpertAus awesome thanks very much. Looking forward to watching it and keep up the good work 👍
@@CarExpertAus I'm tossing up between a few EV's right now (model Y being one of them), super keen to hear your update.
$50,000 USD
I wish this was the case in America. Currently if I wanted a Model Y, they’re going for +$60k USD. Don’t get me started on the performance, it’s $70k. I’m hoping to be a Tesla owner one day, as soon as that price comes down. Cheers everyone!
Then you wouldn't like the prices in Denmark, Europe: $74k USD for the cheapest model Y and $83k for the cheapest performance, these prices are with very limited taxes because they are electric, normally you would pay up to 150% taxes
It looks like one of those weird BMW X4/6 models with the “coupe” styling. Not a fan, they could’ve just gone ahead and made a regular SUV, just like how they made a good sedan shape.
The coupe shape is significantly more efficient. Thats why you see so many EVs using it.
Go check in person, you would love it
Hi Paul, I'm guessing this review was filmed before Tesla increased the entry price of the Y to $72,300?
Yes 😑 will update that in the comments.
You want your model 3 performance 0-100 in 3.3 seconds to float like a boat? Interesting. Everyone I know who’s driven the 3 and Y have loved the planted suspension and handling. It’s literally only the commercial reviews that really whine about this. I would hate for 1.9 tonne of SUv to boat around corners, then add 4 adults and cargo… you just can’t have soft suspension - Without sacrificing a lot of handling at a loaded 2.5 tonne!!
Each to their own 😂 if you want a heavy car to handle well, you will generally have a firmer ride. People are also neglecting to consider it has towing capacity. You simply can’t compare rides to a lighter ICE cars. Put 400kg into it and see how it feels. We used to put a 300kg drum in the rear of work SR5 hiluxes to make them bearable…
otherwise great review, well spoken as always.… sounds like some people should go spend 4K-6k on some aftermarket suspension solution lol
I throughly enjoyed our test drive and poked it through round abouts with absolute surefooted confidence.
If they made it soft, people would complain it’s dangerous, heavy and handles like a typical American car 100%
That big *sigh* at the end, I hate how manufacturers are pushing their cars like a video games, get on the hype train and deal with the issues later while so many people happy to pre purchase a car without a test drive. It's madness!
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Nice music at the bottom there! Old school Nu Metal!
An ownership update video would be cool!
Great review as always Paul. Which version/spec/colour did you get?
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Marvellous review mate. Thank you so much. I too am worried about the ride firmness. Love the car otherwise.
the hard ride would drive me nuts, my mate has a Polestar2 and it is also hard riding to the point of discomfort. I honestly do not see value in this car and would much prefer a Lexus at the same price or the 2022 RAV 4 hybrid AWD Cruiser we own for $20,000 less.
thank you for sharing your opinion with us. firm ride would put me off, hopefully the next update will be in suspensions made for EV's not designed from the knowledge gained of an ICE where if you have a full tank of fuel changes dynamics to when the tank is empty also the cargo space loaded or not. batteries are heavy and they sit low. i like soft luxury feel in a car personally . . .i don't race in Australia where the speed limit is tightly regulated.
Interesting to see you bought one but you don't really like the styling very much, I guess styling is not a great priority for you. If replacement batteries were free for owners for 10 years, then it would probably be a fairly good investment.
love the look of the Y
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G'day Paul! In the Model 3, that glass roof sizzles my flesh in Singapore, even with A/C in full blast. Not again
That's terrible to hear! We didn't have it that bad (and it gets pretty hot in Australia) - but it definitely didn't deflect enough heat. It was very hot to touch in the sun.
@@CarExpertAus Thanks. I managed to get some 3rd party shades to cover them up, but they do sometimes fall off over some huge humps. Works ok but as you highlighted, it doesn't deflect enough heat, or as much as a metal roof IMO. Great vids. Keep 'em coming. Cheers !
Paul can we get new Polstar EV review please.
Great review Paul, can’t agree with the comments about Speedo location. I’ve ordered one for the same reasons you did, model Y is just a better family car… when you get yours can you suggest a suspension upgrade for a remedy to the harsh ride?
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Solid review. Tesla have a sporting bias. Firm suspension means it sits flat and very limited body roll. Plus the entry level is RWD.
The outside look is not too bad. Not the most trendy but then that might be a plus fot Tesla and the owner as it will age less quickly. Tesla can keep it up to date with OTA and not worry about fashionable creases on the outside.
Is it me or is the charging port different for our version versus the American ones which look like a square-ish plug port?
Yep the US Tesla port is different but I believe they are going to adopt the same global type 2 standard.
Need to run 18" wheels for compliant ride. Also rear seat has less hip room than M3.
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Unplugged Performance and Mountain Pass Performance...both US based (sorry) but they sell a suspension kit for Model 3/Y though shipping might be a deal breaker :( I ordered a Model Y Perf and plan on putting one of these in...prob selling the 21s and getting 20s from TSportsline...own a Model S with the 21s and even with the air suspension, still a stiff ride to say the least!