You guys need 2 pillows with your faces on it. So when Sam or John can't be present we can still see them. Give the face pillows headsets and have a blast with it 🤣🤣
John, you did well even when you are solo. You interpreted the emotions of op and yourself so well that I can immerse myself into the story deeper. I could feel you through the screen. Sam has the jokes and sarcasm but you have the emotion. You two are great together and separately depending on the content of the stories.
“I love you like you love bunny”, oh gosh what a wonderful father, that girl is so lucky things worked out this way, her dad loves her so much, much more than the average father
I understand both sides. Op was not only grieving but in shock as she was hit with a huge secret her deceased husband kept from her. The kid wanted to know and spend time with his sisters but also didn't go about it the right way most likely due to the fact he also was grieving and possibly in shock. I hope that everything goes well for bothbof them
I can’t believe the widow allowed her daughters to go anywhere with a young male stranger! What could Grandma & Aunt hav done to stop him had he snatched kids??!
She seems childish. It read very “what about me?!?” I was just like. GET. OVER. YOURSELF. Also, I don’t share your concerns. Her kids were 8 and 12. I’d hope by that time she has talked about SA and safety. Hopefully she also has talk about what to do if someone tries to take them. The Aunt and Grandma would have been able to give necessary details and at least attempt to do something. It’s not like if she would have gone there was any option for a better outcome. And had something happened while she was supervising, she probably would have ended up on a psychiatric unit. She obviously does not have the therapeutic tools to deal with stress. The more she wrote the less and less I like her. She was made at him for introducing himself. While, it honestly seems like the kids was starved for family. He grew up in boarding school. Leads me to think that he didn’t have a lot of interaction with kids or how folks might think of him talking to underage girls EVEN if they are his sisters when he is a stranger to them. TL;DR she is a horrible self centered person.
As a mom who has 2 kids. My eldest from an abusive relationship, it makes my heart hurt with sorrow and then swell with joy for the last story. He is a rare gem in this world❤ may he have all the blessings ❤❤❤❤
For the last story. Just breaks my heart for op and his children. My brother and I are both adopted. We are biologically brother and sister and when we were taken away (for good reasons) I was 6 and he was 5months. Obviously I knew we were adopted but was so happy in my life I called our adoptive parents mom and dad and didn’t bring up our bio parents. When my brother was about 6 years old a few of his friends mothers were pregnant and my brother being a curious child was asking all kind of question about babies and how they come into the world and what not. Then he asked our mom “did I grow in your tummy too?” I saw my moms heart just shatter. She very eloquently responded “you and your sister didn’t grow in my tummy, but you grew in my heart” my brother was very satisfied with that answer and didn’t ask anymore question for a few years. As a mother myself and knowing what it’s like to birth children and have that unique bond, it brings me much joy knowing our parents still had that with us regardless of us being biologically theirs.
For the last story, I was screaming at my phone with my mother! My daughter isn’t biologically my fiancé’s and it’s not a surprise, we got together when she was 2 months old and he helped me get my ex behind bars. But my daughter doesn’t know, and my stomach turns at the thought of calling the man who wanted to kill her the “real” father. Her dad is the man who was there for her first steps, words, holidays and most importantly will strive to protect her from the horrors of the world rather than inflict them upon her.
“Biological” and “real” have two very different definitions. Biological - adj. 1. relating to biology or living organisms 2. (a member of a person’s family) genetically related; related by blood. Real - adj. 1. actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed (used to emphasize the significance or seriousness of a situation or circumstance) relating to something as it is, not merely as it may be described or distinguished. 2. Not limitation or artificial; genuine (true or actual) [attributive] rightly so called; proper: (example: he’s my idea of a real man| ____ is my only real friend.) I have a very similar story to yours. Fortunately I left my daughter’s biological father before I ever even knew I was pregnant. I meet a great man shortly after, when finding love wasn’t even a thought in my mind. He was there for her since the moment she was born, and he’ll always be her “real” father. I strongly believe that it’s not the people that are biologically related to us that are truly our family, but the people that are actually there for us and love us.
The mother telling the grandaughter she isn't her father's child needs to have a restraining order against her to stay away from the daughter. She knew the son didn't want her there but still went around her and then maliciously told her something her own father did not want his daughter to know just to hurt her. So what else will she do?
I can relate to the mystery son story alittle. My dad had a surprise baby with his girlfriend at 19, she left in the night leaving our dad alone with a newborn child. This was the 70s and didn't help. Years later our dad met my mom, but thankfully was honest at the start. My mom admittedly said my brother put her through hell and back but never forced a mother son bond either. She cared for him but accepted his feelings from the start. 16 years later I was born and made a very unique gap. Originally no one told me as a child he was my half brother, all I knew he was my brother. It came up by random chance of pur sister pulling a prank. My sister was an asshole and convinced me I was adopted. She and our brother look like clones of our dad, myself however doesn't look like any of them or really even my mother, I got a mix of my grandmothers. Like any child I started to cry, while my mom was comforting me my great uncle let it slip saying "well if anyone here is adopted its technically your brother". My mom looked pissed and then while already confused explaining how half siblings work. Now I'm just confused crying with adults giving me an overload of information. Man of the hour our dad showed up, took my hand and asked if I still loved my brother, I said yes. He told me that's all that matters and everything else was just fluff that when I want to ask I can. I never call my brother my half brother because it felt insulting and demeaning, making him less of a person because we didn't share both parents. I have gotten a mix of responses. Some saying it's sweet, some saying I'm nuts, some saying I'm in denial, hell one even said I was lying about the truth not saying half brother whwnni just said brother. Due to the age gap the only issue was he would bring me to school and people assumed he was my dad. One my our dad did pick me up and a teacher told me my grandfather came to get me. Scared I said "my grandpa's dead!" She pointed at my dad and I more confused said "Mrs. Smith, that's my dad" she asked who the other man who brings me to school was and I told her that is my big brother. She had a crush on my brother, thought my parents were separated, it was a weird day.
I’m laughing so hard about the teacher crushing on your brother, but yeah, my big sister is technically my “half sibling” but ain’t no way am I referring to her. We grew up together every day, always had each others backs, fought like cats and dogs then always hugged it out. That’s my whole ass sister and no sperm/egg situation will ever change that.
@tatenovikova She couldn't look me in the face for weeks or come out to make sure my brother came and got me out of embarrassment. I was just in waves of horror and still cringe thinking about it.
@KungPowKatie My dad felt insulted because he looked too old for her, my mom felt complimented for looking younger, and my brother was clueless as hell but wasn't saying no either just added insult to it all said she wasn't his type.
Who's cutting all these onions in here! Bruh, I wasn't expecting to cry today but that last story hit a soft spot. Happy ending but damn it hit home. My oldest isn't biologically related to his sister's dad but they love each other just the same. He knows he isn't his "real" dad cuz is bio dad is around sometimes. We've made it a point to make everything as equitable as possible between the two.
For the first story, I don’t understand why a lot of people couldn’t sympathize or understand OP. It’s clear that she’s going through a rough time mentally. She just lost her husband, found out a huge secret he was keeping, and has to juggle with helping her kids grieve as a widow. That’s a lot to process for someone who simply wants to grieve. I think her reaction was understandable considering the fact that she doesn’t know this kid and wants to protect her daughters.
The problem with that is that she was taking her grief out on a kid that had done nothing wrong. She's lashing out because she's angry at her husband for dying (a thing a lot of people experience) and she's taking it out on him. You don't get a pass for making your grief a weapon against other people.
So what I have learned from these podcast is, John is the serious one when reading these series who comes up with possible theories, waits until he gets to the end to, and then make his judgement about the readers. While Sam is the jokester who would holds out before making his judgement/jokes with an optomistic mindset, but can't go all out with his jokes once he get the scoop because with out John egging him on, he plays it safe! This is friendship goal number one because this balanced due can make even the comment section quiver in fear if they are apart!
That last story broke me I'm in tears he's such a good father he seriously needs to get a restraining order on his mother as well. The way he protects his daughter is so beautiful he's such a good man omg 😭😭😭
This was so emotionally complicated that I think it’s easy to be hard on OP because it’s so hard to empathize. I doubt many people have been through similar experiences and tbh I don’t think most of us can say how we would feel and react
Story 1: my heart goes out to the OP. Yes, she was an AH but she's growing. Her husband sounds very much like both of my exes. I have a fear that one may be just like her husband and secret children will pop out of the woodwork. However, my ex has no money to give to them because while he works, he's not well off. I fear for my real co-parent, his current wife. It's nice to hear that her husband's son genuinely just wanted a family and truly only wanted a family in the first place. I completely understand why she had a lot of hesitation and felt traumatized. It sucks that people were so rude to her for their knee-jerk reactions. But it is what it is when you go to Reddit and ask for help. It does sound like she was more concerned with having to give the 18-year-old a portion of the inheritance. At the start, she really didn't need to be upset with the 18-year-old because until he confirmed that he was after money she didn't need to attack him in this way. At least her daughters gained a half-brother out of this. Story 2: that was not expected....okay. Get custody, my guy.
The story about the OP who's not the bio dad but doesn't care really hits me hard. My ex stepmom was pregnant when she started dating my dad and the little girl was 5 when my step mom left my dad because she was cheating on my dad with his boss get daughter came up to me when they were getting stuff out of the house and said "Sissy mommy says you're not my sissy anymore" it broke my heart because I was 19 at the time and helped raise that little girl
That first story wow! As someone who grew up without much of a father figure in my life i can understand all sides of the story. I grew up with my father with my father visiting me once a year. And me visiting his family a few times all the way until i heard him say to my mother "I want you to stop bringing that thing to my family's home i told you i didn't want it in the first place." My mother argued something aboit how i was a child not a thing. But honestly i can't remember exactly what she said. But my father’s words stuck with me forever and i remember us (me and my mom) left not long after. I did see him again but never again at his home and honestly I never got to know his side of the family. I lost my my at twelve years old and i did get a father thankfully that stepped up that wasn’t related by blood but by the bond we made after he heard about my actual father I am glad that the brother and his two sisters are able to get along together
Hey John I appreciate you holding it down. You did an amazing job. These were some great stories you shared with us. Can't wait to see you both again soon 😊 #Okop #TeamJohnAndSam
I had a similar thing happen to me growing up. I was 17 when a half sibling came to me claiming I'm her sister (I'm adopted.) I can completely relate to OP's feelings on the boy being a stranger because in reality he is. I felt the EXACT same way as OP. Blood related or not, my half sister was a stranger and frankly I didn't want anything to do with her. Honestly, when OP's children are 18, they can make their own choice to go seek out their half sibling to have a relationship with, until then, their mother doesn't want anything to do with the young man and she doesn't have to. That's my 2 cents. Edit: I finished the whirlwind story finally since I posted my comment. I'm glad OP went on that personal journey and did what she felt was right for her kids. Not too many people do that nowadays. I do hope all works out for OP and her family and I hope they get the healing they need.
WOW, THE 1ST STORY... TALK ABOUT SOUNDING LIKE IT BELONGS ON AN OPRAH EPISODE... I'M GLAD THINGS SEEM TO BE WORKING OUT AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE❣️GOD BLESS THEM🙏💝
Honestly in everything this poor woman was lied to and cheated of information and blindsided and then emotionally blackmailed because he can no longer answer any of her questions. It's almost like he just completely got off the hook and isn't responsible for anything or any of the choices he made before he met her. And this poor boy grew up without a father being present and now her children also have to grow up without their father being present and everybody suffering. I will say though that the goat in all of this is absolutely the sister. Even if she couldn't do it that one day to be able to Wrangle in three kids and do all of this while the mother is absolutely emotionally shutting down is just such a gift and such a blessing. Also if there ever is a time to put yourself first above everyone else this is the time! Definitely needs to take care of herself and to put herself first right now because if she can't do anything for herself she is stuck and can't do anything for her kids so to be able to recover is something that she needs to allow herself to do and allow herself to feel these feelings and to not judge herself for feeling paranoid or protective over the few things she has left. She feels like she's losing everything because not only has she lost her husband and the love of her life she has also lost the image of who she thought she was married to so she is not only grieving the actual husband but she is grieving an image that she built up in her mind of who he was and it's just collapsing all around her so she needs to allow herself time to heal and to get away from all of this and repair her own heart
I think that if she lets herself go that she may see that this boy is a blessing !!…. And that perhaps he can help heal some of those wounds and never mind that the girls can have a man in their lives and one that is half of this boy …. So leaving the negatives aside since they’ll never have an answer now anyways See this for what it is !!! I learned long ago that love makes room LOVE MAKES ROOM :)
Can y’all not make me cry this early in the morning tf 😭 that poor girl I’m so in awe of that man though his strength and love is so unmatched how beautiful and sad all in one
Hi just wanted to say thank-you for the show! I watch you guys when I'm having a hard time or feeling down at times and it cheers me up thank-you! Also love your humour
"If someone has a story alike to the secret son" You always ask for a DNA test and IF that young man is her late husband's son I don't see it's okay to punish the kid for the late husband's secrets. And I do hope that the kids get to know each other better over time and that he stays in the sisters life for good. And I hope that OP also sees that she doesn't need to be a Stepmom to him, he is an adult.. Hope the best for them.
So I’m 8 minutes in on the podcast version, and I may have to edit this later, but right off the bat I think OP is being WAY too hard on this kid. It seems like he wanted to come and mourn his dad, and seems lonely and wanting to connect with OP’s family. Yeah he’s not going about it the best way, but he is a child. Seems like she’s projecting her anger at her late husband onto this kid, and that’s just not fair. His mom is dead, his dad who was barely involved died, and she’s trying to put all these malicious intentions into him. He’s definitely not doing everything right, but he’s 18. I don’t think he’s being intentionally malicious or manipulative. She doesn’t have to include him in her life and that is her right, but her reasoning is selfish. This is a long episode so I’m most definitely wrong, but that’s my impression so far.
Yup. She was mad at her husband but he is dead so she ended up misdirecting that anger at this kid. The husband is the one that fucked up. And I’m sure the general chaos of conspiracy theories from Reddit didn’t help.
Hold up hold up. Y’all do realize that a young man who could financially travel to them just placed themselves into this family’s life. No warning, no respect for the mom asking a kid what they want and so on. If y’all had kids then you wouldn’t have just let your kids go with a stranger. An extremely high percentage of pedophilia and SA happens from family members. So why would you want her to feel comfortable with an adult stranger.
Since doing the DNA thing on ancestry, I've been contacted by three people I'm related to on cousin level searching for their father/paternal family, as well as discovered that I have unknown cousins via a child my great-grandmother had with a man that wasn't my great-grandfather. There is a small chance that child was her sister's, but it seems more likely that it was hers. None of this has had much affect on me personally, but I did gain a new friend with one of my surprise cousins. Through her, I've seen some of the difficult emotions that come from being given up for adoption and trying to have relationships with biological family that you've spent your entire life wondering about but not knowing. It's been quite the rollercoaster for her, and she was very lucky to have had adoptive parents that gave her a good childhood, loved her to bits, and that she loves very much. Difficult to imagine what it would be like for those who grew up in adoptive families that they felt they didn't fit in to or really belong with, because I know that happens sometimes.
Aaawe That’s so nice of you too think this….. I’m adopted And I think that we all feel like we don’t fit in …. For me I didn’t look like anyone so when I met nan my mother that was the first thing I did and wow Let’s just say that she’s the tree and I’m the apple lol I’m her only child who came out a carbon copy of her done too how we speak!!! That was so weird since I was raised French then learned English lol ….. ❤❤
For the second story, i've heard to many stories where babys were switched at the Hospital. So it's not always unreasonable to see if the child is yours
The 2nd story with the daughter/half sister thing just reminds me of what happened to Billy Lenz from Black Christmas (a horror movie) but what Lenz went through was much worse.
That last story just obliterated my heart. That crappy “mother”/MIL needs to have some serious NC. Maybe even a protective order. The child IS only 4. I’m with John all the way on that one, couldn’t have expressed my feelings better. Just me and my scabbed heart..
The wife in story 2 is literally the devil. Holy shit. Cheating on your husband with his dad and making your husband think he’s raising his own daughter when he’s actually raising his half sister? That’s on some real demon time.
I do feel bad for the kid, but I feel more for op here. People here are calling her selfish and evil but remember, this kid came out of no where right after her husband died. She was vulnerable state and had to hold everything together for her kids. This kid then said to his daughters that they would hang out without her permission. That is not cool at all.
Btw totally respect your opinion, but I do think op is completely in the wrong. Idk if she’s evil but definitely cold toward a kid who did nothing to her but try to get to know his own sisters. Yes she was vulnerable but so was he. He also lost his father - the only parent he had - and found out he was lied to by him his whole life. I can’t feel bad for op when she treated him the way she did as if any of it was his fault. She shows herself so much grace because she was going through a lot, but shows the boy exactly no grace, assuming he’s just trying to scam her or something. And imo, once you have kids, it’s about them and not you so when you find out they have a brother, you don’t get to decide not to have him around because it hurts you - you foster that relationship as long as it’s healthy and it’s what the kids want.
Hes an 18 year old, that’s still quite young and he just lost his father. Of course he wants to be close to his siblings from his father. She may be vulnerable but so is he. She treated him like a criminal when all he wanted was family. She called him MANIPULAtIVE for MOURNING HIS FATHER!!! She’s 100% in the wrong here.
Omg … I’m adopted So my pov comes from this ….. but op needs too soften her heart a bit …. Good gosh that child has no one …. Not a parent in the world !!!! So how cold can you be too want too stop a relationship between siblings…. He has no one !!! And the girls can only gain from this as well they can still have a man in theirs lives a man who is half their father …. We’ll I think it’s all a blessing for all involved and hopefully op will see this….I’ve seen this episode sa many times but I had too say something It’s one of those stories we can all learn from Learn too open our hearts before judging !!! I know this opens too being hurt but it also opens too having more love …. Love makes room man !!!!! LOVE MAKES ROOM
OP def should have done a DNA test. If she knew for sure that he was her husband’s child, maybe she would feel less guarded with him… Edit: OP’s late-husband is INSANE !
Something similar happened with my family about having a child that nobody in the family knew about until the father passed away. It was a whole getting adopted finding ur birth mother and her not saying anything about the father until she was dying which he had already passed. They did a 23 and me and found some people they may be related to, then contact them and was told to contact a certain person who would possibly be their sibling. It was a whole cheating, forced to put up for adoption situation by parents, then finding family little by little but only a few of the family know cuz it would destroy the family. It's a crazy huge story that I don't fully know all the details. So I get the whole 1st story but mine involved full grown adults so it was definitely different. But good for OP to put her feelings aside for the children especially when it's not their fault and they shouldn't be punished for the fathers mistake.
That's messed up that he hid it but even more that she wants her daughter to be disappointed and heartbroken about it because she it. That is between you and your husband.
I don't know why the majority of the comments are still coming at OP from the first story (or maybw they wrote the comments before finishing to listen to the story?). Because later on she did let the kid see his sisters and even went out her way to watch over the kids in his presence even though she was freling uncomfortable prior to that. Also while i understand some of the comments calling her selfish for what she did in the beginning, we also have to ubderstand her because her husband passed away and now his secret son appears out of nowhere, it's a lot of shock for her to comprehend and get more aware of the situation, we cannot just blame and judge her simply like that. While the husband's death is still fresh and she is grieving, also her daughters were left withoit a dad too, a secret son appears, turns out her husband lied to her her whole life, she can't just simply riggt away accept him and accept him in her daughter's lives.
This is kind of a similar story for me. I have 3 older half-sisters. Calling them “half” is more of an easier way to explain the subject to other people, but they’re just my sisters to me. My dad had my sisters from 3 different women. He did not cheat. Their age gaps are understandable. My dad is 11 years older than my mom. My knew of my sisters’ existence even before they got married. In fact, 2 of my sisters have lived and gone to school in our province. Sister #3 had a terrible childhood with her maternal family, so my dad asked my mom if she could live with us. My sister has grown up with my mom’s family. And sister #1 is buddies with my mom. They share interests in shopping. My mom said that as long as it was before their relationship and not during she was okay with it.
For the first story, there is no way I would ever let my kids hang out with a total stranger. I don't even trust some of my known family relatives... I know it sounds heartless, but as a protective mama, I would not let this dude near my kids and call the cops
I think the mom is 0% the AH. The brother was acting really immature to just show up and say "I'm your brother." I'll take you to the aquarium." I know he was only 18, but that sounds like something a 13 year old would do. I think the mom sould tak to the grandparents so they could explain to him how inappropriate that is. It makes total sense that the mom would be freaked out by the audacity of the supposed brother. It was the mom's job to introduce the brother and facilitate the relationship how she saw fit. She is the mother and he was trying to take away her rights to parent her kids.
1st Story: I really am disappointed in OP’s husband. What is wrong with people that hide such big things from their partners? My heart goes out to OP, I would be devastated to realize my partner was a fraud and that I never really knew who they were.
Exactly! I was so confused when people said that she’s the AH, what! This woman just found put the her marriage and last 12 years of her life was a big fat lie with someone who was obviously a stranger to her, how is she expected to be ok with this??!
@@MizMimacalling a young man manipulative for mourning his father is a pretty AH moves. She judged him to be wanting money when she first saw him. HE WAS JUST MOURNING HIS FATHER AND SHE CALLED HIM MANIPULiTVE. Can you imagine how DEVASTATING it would be to lose your father, find out you have siblings, try to connect, only for your siblings mother to act hostile towards you for no reason.
You being devastated gives you NO RIGHT to take it out on an innocent young man just trying to connect to the remaining family he has after losing his FATHER.
The father stole a brother from his daughters, and two sisters from his son. The wife doesn’t need to have a relationship with the son, but all these kids DESERVE to have a relationship and she has no right to stop that. The father is the villain here, and the children, all three, are the victims. Yes, the wife should’ve been told, but the children have been robbed of siblings, robbed of family.
In the 2nd story, the fact she is so adamant about NOT getting a DNA test is what makes me really wonder what she's hiding. If she has nothing to hide and was faithful, just give him the test. After all the times I've be screwed over by someone saying "just trust me" I just can't. Prove yourself or get ta steppin (Edited) OMFG WHAT A BOMBSHELL! 🤯
Wow that last story, needs a restraining order against his mum for that move! She had no right to tell the daughter that. That wasn’t her news to share..
The story about the evil grandma of the four year old pisses me off! IN WHAT AUDACITY hurting a little girl like that emotionally is so fucked up and no wonder why they didn't want her around. she sounds toxic and cray cray. good job OP
Let the boy in goddamn it. Siblings ship can be extremely important amongst eachother. I got siblings with different dads but theyre my sibling to me through and even if theyre 13 years younger than me, I'll still be there for them because i love them and thats a connection that cannot be broken. Edit: that kind of scam is fucked up 😭 . Not related? Drop kick that kid off to space.
The whole “you should have told us she wasn’t yours!” Thing strikes me like a family that wouldn’t except an adopted child. Like it’s their child and that’s all that matters
Imagine growing up without your mother and only seeing your dad every now and then now you try to see siblings you didn’t know about and you are pushed away and called a scammer for wanting to connect to the little family you have. I know the mother is in grieving but even in grieving you have to try to be open about situation even if they are shocking and don’t seem true.Do nothing until it is proven to be true. Put your anger towards your husband don’t put it on his son. Also talk to his grandparents to see who he is as a person as well. And maybe see if there is any teachers of his you can talk to as well. I am glad she was open minded during the visit and realized that the kid wasn’t that bad.
OP who's raising the daughter that isn't biologically his. my grandson is almost 10 years old and he's quite literally my favorite person in the entire universe. my son and my daughter in law moved in together when my grandson was 11 months old and my son has been raising him ever since. my son actually goes into work early after daylight savings time ends because it gets dark earlier and he makes sure to get home while it's still light out so he and my grandson can shoot basketball or play football etc outside. he such a good dad and my daughter in law is such a good mom.. i'm so grateful they met. i couldn't have handpicked a better person for my son. that grandmother is disgusting and i'd never let ANY of my kids be in the same room with such a rotter. it's ok to leave rotten parents behind and go on with your life! you don't owe them a damn thing since it's not your fault that you were created and born. omg this pissed me off so much. i wish my grandson wasn't at school right now so i could call and hear his voice. i'm such a lucky person that my soul allows me to love people even though our dna sequence isn't alike.
Ugh, if I was a newly widowed mom, I don't know what I'd do if a boy came up and suddenly declared he was my unknowing stepson by marriage (or simply the child of my deceased husband). I have a tendency to be helpful to a detrimental degree in regards to myself a lot of times (paying bills/groceries for struggling friends, donating to gofundmes, stressing myself out wirh visiting friends to comfort them when I do not want to leave my apartment, etc). So I could see myself allowing him in...but then I would never forgive myself if he did something to my kids. I'm also a skeptical person and would hope there was some kind of proof from him. Maybe be there emotionally while sussing out the truth, and never ever let him near my kids alone without me. That's tough for people who feel they can't say no to others.
Story 1: The OPs sister was around the boy a lot because she chaperoned them hanging out. If she says that OP judged him too quickly, she has reason to. And the girls might look for him once they turn 18 or when OP dies because they already know they have another family member out there. Also OP needs to pay more attention to her 12 year old that seems to be spiraling.
The paternity test thing is a tough subject. Like, i understand why a woman would take offense to the question, but also as a man there's only one way to know 100% for us. And there's so many stories of men raising kids that aren't theirs, finding out years later, etc. So it just makes sense to me to get tested up front so that everybody can be on the same page. EDIT: See smh i typed this before the end of that story and I'm already validated lmao
I wonder if those girls see their dad in their brother. Barring the boy being a scammer, I feel so bad for him. He has no living parents and was raised in a boarding school.
Why is John all alone with no buddy to banter with?????? Tf Sam, leaving our boy here without a bud. 😭 We appreciate your solo John!!! Flexin dem host muscles! EDIT: Goddamn. Its hard to feel bad for OP at the because John gotta sit with this heavy shit all alone with a camera. 💔💔💔💔
Wow it’s a low possibility of having brown eyes babies to green eyes parents but not IMPOSSIBLE! Me and my husbands kids are the perfect example, we both have dark brown eyes but two of our three kids have blue/green eyes. I’m full Latina and he’s half white half Latino
There was alot of mixing of races in the Caribbean and South America. Someone who is Puerto Rican has a strong likelihood of Black and native American genes. That goes for alot of SA as well (Brazil esp comes to mind as they had alot of importing of slaves)
Omg OP who took on his daughter who was Jonah’s.. ops a fucking hero. He had my heart melting then I like shit it out when his MONSTROUS MOTHER BROKE THAT BABY GIRLS HEART FOR HER OWN AMUSEMENT. SHE needs to be stashed away in a nursing home somewhere no access to other people ESP kids. Well done OP
Why is she so convinced the kid has an ulterior motive? Like I would understand if he had been closer to his father and saw him more often, but being “irked” and suspicious when he was just trying to help out the kids at the funeral?? If you’ve ever been a kid at a funeral or tried to parent a kid during a funeral one would fully understand his intent, but wtf? Just seeking someone to take the emotion directed towards the deceased husband, and kid fits the bill good, so every little thing he does even to help will _always_ be scrutinised by her.
My dad was a pos this made me cry hard especially the last one because I fucking love my siblings (that are old enough to be my parents...) my father was just a sperm donor for all 4 of us! Our mama's are mom and dad for us
My step grandmother told me when I was 8 that she wasn't my grandmother. At 7 my mom had told me. So I was like I know. She was so po that she didn't hurt me.
Its not the young mans fault that his father hid his existence . Siblings are so important . If he is proven to be the brother , this mom is really being selfish
The woman rejecting her husband's secret son is definitely the AH. Its not this kid's fault, and he is just trying to reach out to his own family. I'm glad the daughters' had a chance to meet him, and I hope they all connect when they can tell the mom to fuc off with her judgmental bullshit.
Wow, the last story... I have a 4yo. I canNOT fathom telling her something so heart crushing. That grandmother is the shittiest person on earth. What kind of evil human would crush the soul of an innocent beautiful 4yo baby girl? 😭😭😭😭😭
You guys need 2 pillows with your faces on it. So when Sam or John can't be present we can still see them. Give the face pillows headsets and have a blast with it 🤣🤣
Why do I love this idea 😂😂😂😂 - John
Definitely love this
Ok op body pillows 😂 I’m dead
The ok op waifu pillows 🤣
@OKOPShow because it's a brilliant idea
John, you did well even when you are solo. You interpreted the emotions of op and yourself so well that I can immerse myself into the story deeper. I could feel you through the screen. Sam has the jokes and sarcasm but you have the emotion. You two are great together and separately depending on the content of the stories.
This is what I was trying to say ! Perfectly put
“I love you like you love bunny”, oh gosh what a wonderful father, that girl is so lucky things worked out this way, her dad loves her so much, much more than the average father
I understand both sides. Op was not only grieving but in shock as she was hit with a huge secret her deceased husband kept from her. The kid wanted to know and spend time with his sisters but also didn't go about it the right way most likely due to the fact he also was grieving and possibly in shock. I hope that everything goes well for bothbof them
Ans he is young and immature. Knowing how to approach your newfound family appropriately is not really common knowledge or searchable on Google lol😅
I can’t believe the widow allowed her daughters to go anywhere with a young male stranger!
What could Grandma & Aunt hav done to stop him had he snatched kids??!
Also, seems she was more worried about potentially having to give him $$ than the safety of her girls as for not wanting to get DNA test at first.
Just bcause he IS biological brother still doesn’t mean that he’s not a safety concern. She doesn’t kno him from Adam.
This one bothered me! Lol!
She seems childish. It read very “what about me?!?” I was just like. GET. OVER. YOURSELF.
Also, I don’t share your concerns. Her kids were 8 and 12. I’d hope by that time she has talked about SA and safety. Hopefully she also has talk about what to do if someone tries to take them. The Aunt and Grandma would have been able to give necessary details and at least attempt to do something. It’s not like if she would have gone there was any option for a better outcome. And had something happened while she was supervising, she probably would have ended up on a psychiatric unit. She obviously does not have the therapeutic tools to deal with stress.
The more she wrote the less and less I like her.
She was made at him for introducing himself. While, it honestly seems like the kids was starved for family. He grew up in boarding school. Leads me to think that he didn’t have a lot of interaction with kids or how folks might think of him talking to underage girls EVEN if they are his sisters when he is a stranger to them.
TL;DR she is a horrible self centered person.
As a mom who has 2 kids. My eldest from an abusive relationship, it makes my heart hurt with sorrow and then swell with joy for the last story. He is a rare gem in this world❤ may he have all the blessings ❤❤❤❤
For the last story. Just breaks my heart for op and his children. My brother and I are both adopted. We are biologically brother and sister and when we were taken away (for good reasons) I was 6 and he was 5months. Obviously I knew we were adopted but was so happy in my life I called our adoptive parents mom and dad and didn’t bring up our bio parents. When my brother was about 6 years old a few of his friends mothers were pregnant and my brother being a curious child was asking all kind of question about babies and how they come into the world and what not. Then he asked our mom “did I grow in your tummy too?” I saw my moms heart just shatter. She very eloquently responded “you and your sister didn’t grow in my tummy, but you grew in my heart” my brother was very satisfied with that answer and didn’t ask anymore question for a few years. As a mother myself and knowing what it’s like to birth children and have that unique bond, it brings me much joy knowing our parents still had that with us regardless of us being biologically theirs.
Thank you for sharing
For the last story, I was screaming at my phone with my mother! My daughter isn’t biologically my fiancé’s and it’s not a surprise, we got together when she was 2 months old and he helped me get my ex behind bars. But my daughter doesn’t know, and my stomach turns at the thought of calling the man who wanted to kill her the “real” father. Her dad is the man who was there for her first steps, words, holidays and most importantly will strive to protect her from the horrors of the world rather than inflict them upon her.
“Biological” and “real” have two very different definitions.
Biological - adj. 1. relating to biology or living organisms
2. (a member of a person’s family) genetically related; related by blood.
Real - adj. 1. actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed (used to emphasize the significance or seriousness of a situation or circumstance) relating to something as it is, not merely as it may be described or distinguished.
2. Not limitation or artificial; genuine (true or actual) [attributive] rightly so called; proper: (example: he’s my idea of a real man| ____ is my only real friend.)
I have a very similar story to yours. Fortunately I left my daughter’s biological father before I ever even knew I was pregnant. I meet a great man shortly after, when finding love wasn’t even a thought in my mind. He was there for her since the moment she was born, and he’ll always be her “real” father. I strongly believe that it’s not the people that are biologically related to us that are truly our family, but the people that are actually there for us and love us.
The mother telling the grandaughter she isn't her father's child needs to have a restraining order against her to stay away from the daughter. She knew the son didn't want her there but still went around her and then maliciously told her something her own father did not want his daughter to know just to hurt her. So what else will she do?
Agreed.
Idk why but I knew it was his father, it is really heartbreaking to think a father could do that to their own son
I can relate to the mystery son story alittle.
My dad had a surprise baby with his girlfriend at 19, she left in the night leaving our dad alone with a newborn child. This was the 70s and didn't help. Years later our dad met my mom, but thankfully was honest at the start.
My mom admittedly said my brother put her through hell and back but never forced a mother son bond either. She cared for him but accepted his feelings from the start.
16 years later I was born and made a very unique gap. Originally no one told me as a child he was my half brother, all I knew he was my brother. It came up by random chance of pur sister pulling a prank. My sister was an asshole and convinced me I was adopted. She and our brother look like clones of our dad, myself however doesn't look like any of them or really even my mother, I got a mix of my grandmothers. Like any child I started to cry, while my mom was comforting me my great uncle let it slip saying "well if anyone here is adopted its technically your brother". My mom looked pissed and then while already confused explaining how half siblings work. Now I'm just confused crying with adults giving me an overload of information.
Man of the hour our dad showed up, took my hand and asked if I still loved my brother, I said yes. He told me that's all that matters and everything else was just fluff that when I want to ask I can.
I never call my brother my half brother because it felt insulting and demeaning, making him less of a person because we didn't share both parents. I have gotten a mix of responses. Some saying it's sweet, some saying I'm nuts, some saying I'm in denial, hell one even said I was lying about the truth not saying half brother whwnni just said brother.
Due to the age gap the only issue was he would bring me to school and people assumed he was my dad. One my our dad did pick me up and a teacher told me my grandfather came to get me. Scared I said "my grandpa's dead!" She pointed at my dad and I more confused said "Mrs. Smith, that's my dad" she asked who the other man who brings me to school was and I told her that is my big brother. She had a crush on my brother, thought my parents were separated, it was a weird day.
Not the teacher crush 🫣😂
I’m laughing so hard about the teacher crushing on your brother, but yeah, my big sister is technically my “half sibling” but ain’t no way am I referring to her. We grew up together every day, always had each others backs, fought like cats and dogs then always hugged it out. That’s my whole ass sister and no sperm/egg situation will ever change that.
@tatenovikova She couldn't look me in the face for weeks or come out to make sure my brother came and got me out of embarrassment. I was just in waves of horror and still cringe thinking about it.
@KungPowKatie My dad felt insulted because he looked too old for her, my mom felt complimented for looking younger, and my brother was clueless as hell but wasn't saying no either just added insult to it all said she wasn't his type.
A whole hour today, we are well fed
More long content in the works 😉
Who's cutting all these onions in here! Bruh, I wasn't expecting to cry today but that last story hit a soft spot. Happy ending but damn it hit home. My oldest isn't biologically related to his sister's dad but they love each other just the same. He knows he isn't his "real" dad cuz is bio dad is around sometimes. We've made it a point to make everything as equitable as possible between the two.
The bunny. Okay, now I'm crying. Heartstrings have been yanked!
For the first story, I don’t understand why a lot of people couldn’t sympathize or understand OP. It’s clear that she’s going through a rough time mentally. She just lost her husband, found out a huge secret he was keeping, and has to juggle with helping her kids grieve as a widow. That’s a lot to process for someone who simply wants to grieve. I think her reaction was understandable considering the fact that she doesn’t know this kid and wants to protect her daughters.
The problem with that is that she was taking her grief out on a kid that had done nothing wrong. She's lashing out because she's angry at her husband for dying (a thing a lot of people experience) and she's taking it out on him. You don't get a pass for making your grief a weapon against other people.
I will never understand how people can have a whole separate family! I can't keep any lies straight, so I would be busted immediately.
Same!!!
So what I have learned from these podcast is, John is the serious one when reading these series who comes up with possible theories, waits until he gets to the end to, and then make his judgement about the readers.
While Sam is the jokester who would holds out before making his judgement/jokes with an optomistic mindset, but can't go all out with his jokes once he get the scoop because with out John egging him on, he plays it safe!
This is friendship goal number one because this balanced due can make even the comment section quiver in fear if they are apart!
I love this analysis hahaha
That last story broke me I'm in tears he's such a good father he seriously needs to get a restraining order on his mother as well. The way he protects his daughter is so beautiful he's such a good man omg 😭😭😭
This was so emotionally complicated that I think it’s easy to be hard on OP because it’s so hard to empathize. I doubt many people have been through similar experiences and tbh I don’t think most of us can say how we would feel and react
Story 1: my heart goes out to the OP. Yes, she was an AH but she's growing. Her husband sounds very much like both of my exes. I have a fear that one may be just like her husband and secret children will pop out of the woodwork. However, my ex has no money to give to them because while he works, he's not well off. I fear for my real co-parent, his current wife. It's nice to hear that her husband's son genuinely just wanted a family and truly only wanted a family in the first place. I completely understand why she had a lot of hesitation and felt traumatized. It sucks that people were so rude to her for their knee-jerk reactions. But it is what it is when you go to Reddit and ask for help. It does sound like she was more concerned with having to give the 18-year-old a portion of the inheritance. At the start, she really didn't need to be upset with the 18-year-old because until he confirmed that he was after money she didn't need to attack him in this way. At least her daughters gained a half-brother out of this.
Story 2: that was not expected....okay. Get custody, my guy.
The story about the OP who's not the bio dad but doesn't care really hits me hard. My ex stepmom was pregnant when she started dating my dad and the little girl was 5 when my step mom left my dad because she was cheating on my dad with his boss get daughter came up to me when they were getting stuff out of the house and said "Sissy mommy says you're not my sissy anymore" it broke my heart because I was 19 at the time and helped raise that little girl
Missed you guys at your studio with the classic orange shirts. Bali was great, but I'm happy you're home ❤
"Pour some teaaaa grab a journalllll" is my new favorite quote
Good job John! ❤ and the editor as well!!
A hour long ?? On a Friday purr 🔥🔥🔥
That first story wow!
As someone who grew up without much of a father figure in my life i can understand all sides of the story.
I grew up with my father with my father visiting me once a year. And me visiting his family a few times all the way until i heard him say to my mother
"I want you to stop bringing that thing to my family's home i told you i didn't want it in the first place."
My mother argued something aboit how i was a child not a thing. But honestly i can't remember exactly what she said.
But my father’s words stuck with me forever and i remember us (me and my mom) left not long after.
I did see him again but never again at his home and honestly I never got to know his side of the family.
I lost my my at twelve years old and i did get a father thankfully that stepped up that wasn’t related by blood but by the bond we made after he heard about my actual father
I am glad that the brother and his two sisters are able to get along together
Hey John I appreciate you holding it down. You did an amazing job. These were some great stories you shared with us. Can't wait to see you both again soon 😊 #Okop #TeamJohnAndSam
I had a similar thing happen to me growing up. I was 17 when a half sibling came to me claiming I'm her sister (I'm adopted.) I can completely relate to OP's feelings on the boy being a stranger because in reality he is. I felt the EXACT same way as OP. Blood related or not, my half sister was a stranger and frankly I didn't want anything to do with her. Honestly, when OP's children are 18, they can make their own choice to go seek out their half sibling to have a relationship with, until then, their mother doesn't want anything to do with the young man and she doesn't have to. That's my 2 cents.
Edit: I finished the whirlwind story finally since I posted my comment. I'm glad OP went on that personal journey and did what she felt was right for her kids. Not too many people do that nowadays. I do hope all works out for OP and her family and I hope they get the healing they need.
John I do love your solo episodes❤ you and Sam are great don’t change that! But I also love getting your uninterrupted pov
WOW, THE 1ST STORY... TALK ABOUT SOUNDING LIKE IT BELONGS ON AN OPRAH EPISODE... I'M GLAD THINGS SEEM TO BE WORKING OUT AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE❣️GOD BLESS THEM🙏💝
49:07 you’re chosen family is what makes a family. This is why Supernatural is a such a great show it’s teaches you that “Family don’t end in blood”
The light on John is delicious on this video 👍
Great run on this solo episode, I loved all your commentary😄 I LOVE YOU JON
I was starting to think you guys had moved to Bali haha
Honestly in everything this poor woman was lied to and cheated of information and blindsided and then emotionally blackmailed because he can no longer answer any of her questions. It's almost like he just completely got off the hook and isn't responsible for anything or any of the choices he made before he met her. And this poor boy grew up without a father being present and now her children also have to grow up without their father being present and everybody suffering. I will say though that the goat in all of this is absolutely the sister. Even if she couldn't do it that one day to be able to Wrangle in three kids and do all of this while the mother is absolutely emotionally shutting down is just such a gift and such a blessing.
Also if there ever is a time to put yourself first above everyone else this is the time! Definitely needs to take care of herself and to put herself first right now because if she can't do anything for herself she is stuck and can't do anything for her kids so to be able to recover is something that she needs to allow herself to do and allow herself to feel these feelings and to not judge herself for feeling paranoid or protective over the few things she has left. She feels like she's losing everything because not only has she lost her husband and the love of her life she has also lost the image of who she thought she was married to so she is not only grieving the actual husband but she is grieving an image that she built up in her mind of who he was and it's just collapsing all around her so she needs to allow herself time to heal and to get away from all of this and repair her own heart
I think that if she lets herself go that she may see that this boy is a blessing !!…. And that perhaps he can help heal some of those wounds and never mind that the girls can have a man in their lives and one that is half of this boy ….
So leaving the negatives aside since they’ll never have an answer now anyways
See this for what it is !!!
I learned long ago that
love makes room
LOVE MAKES ROOM :)
Can y’all not make me cry this early in the morning tf 😭 that poor girl I’m so in awe of that man though his strength and love is so unmatched how beautiful and sad all in one
Hi just wanted to say thank-you for the show! I watch you guys when I'm having a hard time or feeling down at times and it cheers me up thank-you! Also love your humour
Please we’re so glad it helps! Thanks so much for showing appreciation! 🙏🙏🙏
"If someone has a story alike to the secret son"
You always ask for a DNA test and IF that young man is her late husband's son I don't see it's okay to punish the kid for the late husband's secrets.
And I do hope that the kids get to know each other better over time and that he stays in the sisters life for good. And I hope that OP also sees that she doesn't need to be a Stepmom to him, he is an adult..
Hope the best for them.
While I like john more than sam, this feels weird he's doing it solo. John is so great with bouncing the discussion.
It seems like he’s great at banter even solo!! Such talent
It's okay to compliment someone without giving a dig someone else. Family, let's do better.
Why aren’t they together? I missed that one?
I adore both of them together
How old was the “son”?
Thanks for still showing up for us John!!
Thanks for this video! Was a good collection of stories to do dishes to.
So I’m 8 minutes in on the podcast version, and I may have to edit this later, but right off the bat I think OP is being WAY too hard on this kid. It seems like he wanted to come and mourn his dad, and seems lonely and wanting to connect with OP’s family. Yeah he’s not going about it the best way, but he is a child. Seems like she’s projecting her anger at her late husband onto this kid, and that’s just not fair. His mom is dead, his dad who was barely involved died, and she’s trying to put all these malicious intentions into him. He’s definitely not doing everything right, but he’s 18. I don’t think he’s being intentionally malicious or manipulative. She doesn’t have to include him in her life and that is her right, but her reasoning is selfish. This is a long episode so I’m most definitely wrong, but that’s my impression so far.
I feel the same way.
I agree. He didn’t do anything wrong
Yup. She was mad at her husband but he is dead so she ended up misdirecting that anger at this kid. The husband is the one that fucked up. And I’m sure the general chaos of conspiracy theories from Reddit didn’t help.
Hold up hold up. Y’all do realize that a young man who could financially travel to them just placed themselves into this family’s life. No warning, no respect for the mom asking a kid what they want and so on. If y’all had kids then you wouldn’t have just let your kids go with a stranger. An extremely high percentage of pedophilia and SA happens from family members. So why would you want her to feel comfortable with an adult stranger.
I feel she's taking it out on the kid too. He's 18 they don't always make the best decision
Since doing the DNA thing on ancestry, I've been contacted by three people I'm related to on cousin level searching for their father/paternal family, as well as discovered that I have unknown cousins via a child my great-grandmother had with a man that wasn't my great-grandfather. There is a small chance that child was her sister's, but it seems more likely that it was hers. None of this has had much affect on me personally, but I did gain a new friend with one of my surprise cousins. Through her, I've seen some of the difficult emotions that come from being given up for adoption and trying to have relationships with biological family that you've spent your entire life wondering about but not knowing. It's been quite the rollercoaster for her, and she was very lucky to have had adoptive parents that gave her a good childhood, loved her to bits, and that she loves very much. Difficult to imagine what it would be like for those who grew up in adoptive families that they felt they didn't fit in to or really belong with, because I know that happens sometimes.
Aaawe
That’s so nice of you too think this….. I’m adopted
And I think that we all feel like we don’t fit in …. For me I didn’t look like anyone so when I met nan my mother that was the first thing I did and wow
Let’s just say that she’s the tree and I’m the apple lol I’m her only child who came out a carbon copy of her done too how we speak!!! That was so weird since I was raised French then learned English lol ….. ❤❤
For the second story, i've heard to many stories where babys were switched at the Hospital. So it's not always unreasonable to see if the child is yours
omg last story at the bunny part IM NOT CRYING *sniffle*
The 2nd story with the daughter/half sister thing just reminds me of what happened to Billy Lenz from Black Christmas (a horror movie) but what Lenz went through was much worse.
That last story just obliterated my heart. That crappy “mother”/MIL needs to have some serious NC. Maybe even a protective order. The child IS only 4.
I’m with John all the way on that one, couldn’t have expressed my feelings better. Just me and my scabbed heart..
That last dad is so amazing! Cut off that toxic grandma though... not okay!!!
The wife in story 2 is literally the devil. Holy shit. Cheating on your husband with his dad and making your husband think he’s raising his own daughter when he’s actually raising his half sister? That’s on some real demon time.
I do feel bad for the kid, but I feel more for op here. People here are calling her selfish and evil but remember, this kid came out of no where right after her husband died. She was vulnerable state and had to hold everything together for her kids. This kid then said to his daughters that they would hang out without her permission. That is not cool at all.
Agreed this woman's life got flipped upside down and she was generally nice to him. Everyone acting like she spit in his face
Btw totally respect your opinion, but I do think op is completely in the wrong. Idk if she’s evil but definitely cold toward a kid who did nothing to her but try to get to know his own sisters. Yes she was vulnerable but so was he. He also lost his father - the only parent he had - and found out he was lied to by him his whole life. I can’t feel bad for op when she treated him the way she did as if any of it was his fault. She shows herself so much grace because she was going through a lot, but shows the boy exactly no grace, assuming he’s just trying to scam her or something. And imo, once you have kids, it’s about them and not you so when you find out they have a brother, you don’t get to decide not to have him around because it hurts you - you foster that relationship as long as it’s healthy and it’s what the kids want.
Hes an 18 year old, that’s still quite young and he just lost his father. Of course he wants to be close to his siblings from his father. She may be vulnerable but so is he. She treated him like a criminal when all he wanted was family. She called him MANIPULAtIVE for MOURNING HIS FATHER!!! She’s 100% in the wrong here.
Omg … I’m adopted
So my pov comes from this ….. but op needs too soften her heart a bit …. Good gosh that child has no one …. Not a parent in the world !!!! So how cold can you be too want too stop a relationship between siblings…. He has no one !!!
And the girls can only gain from this as well they can still have a man in theirs lives a man who is half their father ….
We’ll I think it’s all a blessing for all involved and hopefully op will see this….I’ve seen this episode sa many times but I had too say something
It’s one of those stories we can all learn from
Learn too open our hearts before judging !!! I know this opens too being hurt but it also opens too having more love ….
Love makes room man !!!!!
LOVE MAKES ROOM
I just experienced a *ROLLERCOASTER OF EMOTION*
This is juiciest episode I've seen in awhile
OP def should have done a DNA test. If she knew for sure that he was her husband’s child, maybe she would feel less guarded with him…
Edit: OP’s late-husband is INSANE !
the Barney song was top tier haha
Something similar happened with my family about having a child that nobody in the family knew about until the father passed away. It was a whole getting adopted finding ur birth mother and her not saying anything about the father until she was dying which he had already passed. They did a 23 and me and found some people they may be related to, then contact them and was told to contact a certain person who would possibly be their sibling. It was a whole cheating, forced to put up for adoption situation by parents, then finding family little by little but only a few of the family know cuz it would destroy the family. It's a crazy huge story that I don't fully know all the details. So I get the whole 1st story but mine involved full grown adults so it was definitely different. But good for OP to put her feelings aside for the children especially when it's not their fault and they shouldn't be punished for the fathers mistake.
Story 2 You cheated in me? We're done. You cheated on me... With My Father?! Good bye
Growing up as the bastard child totally sucks. I was only accepted when it was convenient, or to help make my "family" look good.
That's messed up that he hid it but even more that she wants her daughter to be disappointed and heartbroken about it because she it. That is between you and your husband.
I don't know why the majority of the comments are still coming at OP from the first story (or maybw they wrote the comments before finishing to listen to the story?). Because later on she did let the kid see his sisters and even went out her way to watch over the kids in his presence even though she was freling uncomfortable prior to that. Also while i understand some of the comments calling her selfish for what she did in the beginning, we also have to ubderstand her because her husband passed away and now his secret son appears out of nowhere, it's a lot of shock for her to comprehend and get more aware of the situation, we cannot just blame and judge her simply like that. While the husband's death is still fresh and she is grieving, also her daughters were left withoit a dad too, a secret son appears, turns out her husband lied to her her whole life, she can't just simply riggt away accept him and accept him in her daughter's lives.
Best. Episode. Ever
This is kind of a similar story for me. I have 3 older half-sisters. Calling them “half” is more of an easier way to explain the subject to other people, but they’re just my sisters to me. My dad had my sisters from 3 different women. He did not cheat. Their age gaps are understandable. My dad is 11 years older than my mom. My knew of my sisters’ existence even before they got married. In fact, 2 of my sisters have lived and gone to school in our province. Sister #3 had a terrible childhood with her maternal family, so my dad asked my mom if she could live with us. My sister has grown up with my mom’s family. And sister #1 is buddies with my mom. They share interests in shopping. My mom said that as long as it was before their relationship and not during she was okay with it.
For the first story, there is no way I would ever let my kids hang out with a total stranger. I don't even trust some of my known family relatives... I know it sounds heartless, but as a protective mama, I would not let this dude near my kids and call the cops
I think the mom is 0% the AH. The brother was acting really immature to just show up and say "I'm your brother." I'll take you to the aquarium." I know he was only 18, but that sounds like something a 13 year old would do.
I think the mom sould tak to the grandparents so they could explain to him how inappropriate that is.
It makes total sense that the mom would be freaked out by the audacity of the supposed brother.
It was the mom's job to introduce the brother and facilitate the relationship how she saw fit. She is the mother and he was trying to take away her rights to parent her kids.
1st Story: I really am disappointed in OP’s husband. What is wrong with people that hide such big things from their partners? My heart goes out to OP, I would be devastated to realize my partner was a fraud and that I never really knew who they were.
Exactly! I was so confused when people said that she’s the AH, what! This woman just found put the her marriage and last 12 years of her life was a big fat lie with someone who was obviously a stranger to her, how is she expected to be ok with this??!
@@MizMimacalling a young man manipulative for mourning his father is a pretty AH moves. She judged him to be wanting money when she first saw him. HE WAS JUST MOURNING HIS FATHER AND SHE CALLED HIM MANIPULiTVE. Can you imagine how DEVASTATING it would be to lose your father, find out you have siblings, try to connect, only for your siblings mother to act hostile towards you for no reason.
You being devastated gives you NO RIGHT to take it out on an innocent young man just trying to connect to the remaining family he has after losing his FATHER.
@@fandomtrash7505 I totally agree she shouldn’t have treated the boy poorly. He’s not responsible for his father’s choices.
24:34 I’m just imagining the brother like “whaa” after the girls turn on him and the girls’ mom’s shrugs like “just let it happen” 😂
The father stole a brother from his daughters, and two sisters from his son. The wife doesn’t need to have a relationship with the son, but all these kids DESERVE to have a relationship and she has no right to stop that.
The father is the villain here, and the children, all three, are the victims. Yes, the wife should’ve been told, but the children have been robbed of siblings, robbed of family.
The way I physically yelled out loud at the 3rd story. Grandmother is gonna catch these HANDS
In the 2nd story, the fact she is so adamant about NOT getting a DNA test is what makes me really wonder what she's hiding. If she has nothing to hide and was faithful, just give him the test. After all the times I've be screwed over by someone saying "just trust me" I just can't. Prove yourself or get ta steppin
(Edited) OMFG WHAT A BOMBSHELL! 🤯
Wow that last story, needs a restraining order against his mum for that move! She had no right to tell the daughter that. That wasn’t her news to share..
The story about the evil grandma of the four year old pisses me off! IN WHAT AUDACITY hurting a little girl like that emotionally is so fucked up and no wonder why they didn't want her around. she sounds toxic and cray cray. good job OP
Let the boy in goddamn it. Siblings ship can be extremely important amongst eachother. I got siblings with different dads but theyre my sibling to me through and even if theyre 13 years younger than me, I'll still be there for them because i love them and thats a connection that cannot be broken.
Edit: that kind of scam is fucked up 😭 . Not related? Drop kick that kid off to space.
That Barney song remix made me have an ASMR reaction in my cheeks to the cringe LOL loved it though😂
Well done John! 👏🏽💙
The whole “you should have told us she wasn’t yours!” Thing strikes me like a family that wouldn’t except an adopted child. Like it’s their child and that’s all that matters
5:16 we call that an "empty gesture," you say it as a common courtesy but hope with everything you have that they don't take you up on it
I enjoyed the stories and miss your banter with Sam! Hopefully you both will be back together soon!
Imagine growing up without your mother and only seeing your dad every now and then now you try to see siblings you didn’t know about and you are pushed away and called a scammer for wanting to connect to the little family you have. I know the mother is in grieving but even in grieving you have to try to be open about situation even if they are shocking and don’t seem true.Do nothing until it is proven to be true. Put your anger towards your husband don’t put it on his son. Also talk to his grandparents to see who he is as a person as well. And maybe see if there is any teachers of his you can talk to as well. I am glad she was open minded during the visit and realized that the kid wasn’t that bad.
OP who's raising the daughter that isn't biologically his.
my grandson is almost 10 years old and he's quite literally my favorite person in the entire universe. my son and my daughter in law moved in together when my grandson was 11 months old and my son has been raising him ever since. my son actually goes into work early after daylight savings time ends because it gets dark earlier and he makes sure to get home while it's still light out so he and my grandson can shoot basketball or play football etc outside. he such a good dad and my daughter in law is such a good mom.. i'm so grateful they met. i couldn't have handpicked a better person for my son.
that grandmother is disgusting and i'd never let ANY of my kids be in the same room with such a rotter. it's ok to leave rotten parents behind and go on with your life! you don't owe them a damn thing since it's not your fault that you were created and born. omg this pissed me off so much. i wish my grandson wasn't at school right now so i could call and hear his voice. i'm such a lucky person that my soul allows me to love people even though our dna sequence isn't alike.
Ugh, if I was a newly widowed mom, I don't know what I'd do if a boy came up and suddenly declared he was my unknowing stepson by marriage (or simply the child of my deceased husband).
I have a tendency to be helpful to a detrimental degree in regards to myself a lot of times (paying bills/groceries for struggling friends, donating to gofundmes, stressing myself out wirh visiting friends to comfort them when I do not want to leave my apartment, etc). So I could see myself allowing him in...but then I would never forgive myself if he did something to my kids. I'm also a skeptical person and would hope there was some kind of proof from him. Maybe be there emotionally while sussing out the truth, and never ever let him near my kids alone without me.
That's tough for people who feel they can't say no to others.
Story 1: The OPs sister was around the boy a lot because she chaperoned them hanging out. If she says that OP judged him too quickly, she has reason to. And the girls might look for him once they turn 18 or when OP dies because they already know they have another family member out there.
Also OP needs to pay more attention to her 12 year old that seems to be spiraling.
The paternity test thing is a tough subject. Like, i understand why a woman would take offense to the question, but also as a man there's only one way to know 100% for us. And there's so many stories of men raising kids that aren't theirs, finding out years later, etc. So it just makes sense to me to get tested up front so that everybody can be on the same page.
EDIT: See smh i typed this before the end of that story and I'm already validated lmao
I wonder if those girls see their dad in their brother. Barring the boy being a scammer, I feel so bad for him. He has no living parents and was raised in a boarding school.
Why is John all alone with no buddy to banter with?????? Tf Sam, leaving our boy here without a bud.
😭 We appreciate your solo John!!!
Flexin dem host muscles!
EDIT: Goddamn. Its hard to feel bad for OP at the because John gotta sit with this heavy shit all alone with a camera. 💔💔💔💔
Wow it’s a low possibility of having brown eyes babies to green eyes parents but not IMPOSSIBLE! Me and my husbands kids are the perfect example, we both have dark brown eyes but two of our three kids have blue/green eyes. I’m full Latina and he’s half white half Latino
There was alot of mixing of races in the Caribbean and South America. Someone who is Puerto Rican has a strong likelihood of Black and native American genes. That goes for alot of SA as well (Brazil esp comes to mind as they had alot of importing of slaves)
Omg OP who took on his daughter who was Jonah’s.. ops a fucking hero. He had my heart melting then I like shit it out when his MONSTROUS MOTHER BROKE THAT BABY GIRLS HEART FOR HER OWN AMUSEMENT. SHE needs to be stashed away in a nursing home somewhere no access to other people ESP kids. Well done OP
Why is she so convinced the kid has an ulterior motive? Like I would understand if he had been closer to his father and saw him more often, but being “irked” and suspicious when he was just trying to help out the kids at the funeral?? If you’ve ever been a kid at a funeral or tried to parent a kid during a funeral one would fully understand his intent, but wtf? Just seeking someone to take the emotion directed towards the deceased husband, and kid fits the bill good, so every little thing he does even to help will _always_ be scrutinised by her.
My dad was a pos this made me cry hard especially the last one because I fucking love my siblings (that are old enough to be my parents...) my father was just a sperm donor for all 4 of us! Our mama's are mom and dad for us
My step grandmother told me when I was 8 that she wasn't my grandmother. At 7 my mom had told me. So I was like I know. She was so po that she didn't hurt me.
Where's Sam?? He stood in Bali?? You did a great show. Awesome content..
Its not the young mans fault that his father hid his existence . Siblings are so important . If he is proven to be the brother , this mom is really being selfish
I love the long videos!!
OP in the last story is a champ and that bunny example is genius
It sounds a lot like the moms blaming the Sun for his very existence as if he had a choice
The Barney song 😂😂 omg
I'm so glad the son story wasn't a scam omg
The woman rejecting her husband's secret son is definitely the AH. Its not this kid's fault, and he is just trying to reach out to his own family.
I'm glad the daughters' had a chance to meet him, and I hope they all connect when they can tell the mom to fuc off with her judgmental bullshit.
Oregon in the house🙌
Wow, the last story... I have a 4yo. I canNOT fathom telling her something so heart crushing. That grandmother is the shittiest person on earth. What kind of evil human would crush the soul of an innocent beautiful 4yo baby girl? 😭😭😭😭😭
Best ok op
25:01 awwwwh siblings are such a blessing 😭
25:20 this is truly sweet.
It can be made into a small novel.
That last story…. I’d disown my mom.
It sounds like he already had, but it didn't help...