Even while this process is insanely waste of energy, I still love the fact, that anybody can make some HNO3 without the need of buying any chemicals. And if you run that on a 100W solar panel, energy isn't limited anyway. I still have the biological process in mind testing, by using urea solution pumped around in a circle, with nitrobacter colony on a substrate in a pipetower and then reacting the formed HNO3 directly with limestone in a reservoir, to Ca(NO3)2. That may also work with urine, but for hygienic reasons, I would prefer technical urea solution. (Adblue) It should be much more energy efficient.
You can use copper pipe as inlet and electrode this lets you preheat the incoming air and drive mack moisture while also cooling the electrode. Trying to figure out electro magnets mainly powering them or pulsing them so i can use the magnet to drive the arc harder.
Stopper will keep blowing out. I put copper right in the distilled water bubbler and run 12 hr on 12 hr off to give time for copper to use nitric. I also use copper tubes for air delivery . Bin a week. Water turning teal . Waiting for afew thermometer tops that can be secured in and then it can run on its own. No idea what im doing but copper sulphate is the result im looking for
@REACTIONLAB-id1fw You did a great job with what you have, and I very much enjoyed watching and learning from the video. It is just a suggestion for taking advantage of shifting the equilibrium of gas phase reactions.
Please save your fingers and do not use an electric drill to make holes in rubber stoppers. I have had the drill bit grab the rubber and spin it out of my hand. As another commenter said, get or make some rubber/cork borers.
@@REACTIONLAB-id1fw I've been studying this a bit more and steam in the reaction chamber is not a good idea. The air needs to be dry as crazy. I didn't know about the oxygen. I would try ozone or why not do a simple water electrolysis and transfere the oxygen into the chamber? BTW what if we add steam as a secondary step (not in the chamber)? It would mix with the NOx but I don't know how effective it would become. Cheers
If you would add steam into the reaction chamber, I bet the electrodes would react with the nitric acid fumes and give copper nitrate solution... But yes, instead of bubbling the gas through water as shown in thsi video, one could of course send the gas into another chamber where water is sprayed or condensed. Maybe you could combine the formation process with upconcentration...
![Nitric acid from air new attempt [Birkeland Eyde Reactor]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9eZ47j6cjNk/mqdefault.jpg)
best demo of an eyed reactor ive seen on here so far
Even while this process is insanely waste of energy, I still love the fact, that anybody can make some HNO3 without the need of buying any chemicals. And if you run that on a 100W solar panel, energy isn't limited anyway.
I still have the biological process in mind testing, by using urea solution pumped around in a circle, with nitrobacter colony on a substrate in a pipetower and then reacting the formed HNO3 directly with limestone in a reservoir, to Ca(NO3)2.
That may also work with urine, but for hygienic reasons, I would prefer technical urea solution. (Adblue)
It should be much more energy efficient.
Copper tubing is cleanly and easily cut using an inexpensive tool called a tubing cutter.
Right, I just didn't have one at the moment plus it wasn't really a copper pipe but rather a solid piece of wire.🙂
Have you tried to change the shape of the arc with a magnetic field?
No, unfortunately I didn't get to that part. That was my first time trying out that setup and I was busy making it look good.
You can use copper pipe as inlet and electrode this lets you preheat the incoming air and drive mack moisture while also cooling the electrode. Trying to figure out electro magnets mainly powering them or pulsing them so i can use the magnet to drive the arc harder.
Great idea I've seen that on Cody's Lab channel about his reactor.
Stopper will keep blowing out. I put copper right in the distilled water bubbler and run 12 hr on 12 hr off to give time for copper to use nitric. I also use copper tubes for air delivery . Bin a week. Water turning teal . Waiting for afew thermometer tops that can be secured in and then it can run on its own. No idea what im doing but copper sulphate is the result im looking for
I like where you are taking this.
Good luck!! 👍
Do the reaction at 10 atmospheres for improved results.
Yeah, but I would have to redesign the whole thing
@REACTIONLAB-id1fw You did a great job with what you have, and I very much enjoyed watching and learning from the video. It is just a suggestion for taking advantage of shifting the equilibrium of gas phase reactions.
Please save your fingers and do not use an electric drill to make holes in rubber stoppers. I have had the drill bit grab the rubber and spin it out of my hand. As another commenter said, get or make some rubber/cork borers.
Will do!!!
What if you add steam in the reaction chamber. Maybe more NOx would be disolved in water?
It's better to add oxygen since there is more nitrogen in the atmosphere and oxygen stands as the limiting reactant.
@@REACTIONLAB-id1fw I've been studying this a bit more and steam in the reaction chamber is not a good idea. The air needs to be dry as crazy.
I didn't know about the oxygen. I would try ozone or why not do a simple water electrolysis and transfere the oxygen into the chamber?
BTW what if we add steam as a secondary step (not in the chamber)? It would mix with the NOx but I don't know how effective it would become.
Cheers
If you would add steam into the reaction chamber, I bet the electrodes would react with the nitric acid fumes and give copper nitrate solution... But yes, instead of bubbling the gas through water as shown in thsi video, one could of course send the gas into another chamber where water is sprayed or condensed. Maybe you could combine the formation process with upconcentration...
Those keck clips are good got one run lol after I made hno3 I was shocked by how it destroyed the plastic keck clips
I know they don't last very long (Слава Україні!!!)
Safety first haha never drill whit your cloves on it can grab your fingers
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Вот что значит - делать деньги из воздуха!!!
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Not bad but... Why wear chemical gloves all the time? Is your identity so secret you can't take the chance someone will recognize your hands?