There are plenty of people who can’t openly communicate BUT are a lot better when putting words into writing. It’s common for someone to be able to express themselves well in writing but can’t communicate as well out loud in front of someone/people.
@Kylie Marie yeah not in this case. I know it sounds rude, but listening to her, you just know that her manuscript is going to need to be re-written in order for it to be good enough for a book.....
Defendant has the patience of Job. Professional and honest. No one on earth would have worked with the plaintiff. Ungrateful and ignorant. For safety, she shouldn’t bring clients into her home.
As a writer and editor, I can firmly say that the Plaintiff's book was a mess. The way she speaks, saying she edited it herself and that she can't figure out computers... no. Lord, no. Write a manuscript and give it to your friends rather than think it's going to sell. Editors are EXTREMELY underpaid because of people like this. We fix things, and the writer says, "I could've done that..." No. You couldn't. That's why we fixed it.
I work in printing and a lot of it also is because of dumbass people who demand their shit be perfect, whether it be pictures, videos, flyers and yes, even books. When they want us to do shit like editing and then get pissed off we want to get PAID for doing what they can't. "Why? you just spend 5 minutes to fix it, how could it be worth an editing fee?" "Because you didn't know how to do it." "Why would you charge us to design a brochure for us?" "Because you didn't know how to do it and that takes time" And then my god all the whole rewrites? Yeah so now it's a 2 drafts and done, if you can't tell us what you want after that, we keep the money, you gtfo. And the editing isn't even my job. I just know how to do it. We're not supposed to make files, we're supposed to PRINT print ready files Ridiculous the entitlement from the world's imbeciles who think them not knowing how to do shit entitles them to MY expertise for free. And this isn't even going over the phone calls trying to get me to fix their printers for free.
Editing is so tedious. It’s almost not worth it when the writer has major grammatical errors in every sentence. Then they want to rush you like it can be done in a day. Smh. I edited 300 pages of pure chaos for a friend. Never again.
Judge really went above and beyond for the plaintiff. As a young adult, I see things everyday that reinforce why my mama didn’t play about my education.
The defendant called the book a hot mess, and I could understand why. The plaintiff had a hard time explaining what the book was about. I could only imagine reading it, and trying to comprehend it, minus the language conversion.
@@shesuniqueinherownwaybenja7647 Serious question: why where you annoyed? What made it annoying? I’m not judging or looking for a discussion or argument or anything like that. I am just genuinely curious, since I myself did not perceive it as annoying. I did find her a bit chaotic during the hearing though.
That excuse just isn’t good. Especially at the ages that they both are. She is of the computer generation too. They are hardly any jobs where you don’t use computers.
Meanwhile the Defendant did all she could to help the Plantiff get her work out but the Plantiff still has complaints kind of like nothing is good enough👀🤦♂️
I wrote a book and went through allll the samethings this woman is going through and all I had to do was READDDD. The plaintiff is ridiculous…reading is fundamental
Sorry for Plaintiff’s loss however She was doing to much and rested on not being tech savvy….. no excuse! She was doing more work than she was suppose too
The plaintiff couldn't even thoroughly explain what happened to her son, so I can only imagine what that book is like - all over the place with no details.
According to one comment, he was killed over the pettiest thing. It was a young lady’s birthday, and they were having a water fight. Whether was poured in the son, and then son threw Gatorade on the young lady, the young lady hit her boyfriend involved. The boyfriend should up at the plantiff’s house asking for her son so they can fight, the plantiff told the boyfriend her son was too tired. The son was spotted at the same place the water fight took place and the boyfriend and someone else approached him and shot him
The plaintiff has a sad story and i wish the best for her and her family… But it seems to me she takes no responsibility for her part in this case. I was feeling like this, i was feeling like that, and the defendant knew it. Thats not an accuse!
That’s bull, the Plaintiff clearly said she didn’t know how to do the “computer stuff” once the portal was on her side she didn’t know how to do it , that’s not the Defendants fault.
The plaintiff just mad her book didn't sell many copies. Prob only a cpl family members or friends bought it. Woman was annoying and couldn't explain anything.
Her book had one tragedy after another. I got dizzy reading and fixing her writing. She was not ready to publish a book, nevertheless, be a plaintiff in a lawsuit. She was all over the place, stuttering, we even had a recess so her and her kid can figure out how to get into her KDP account. It was pathetic and they were pathetic. The END! and to date her book is still in limbo, because I'm not helping them do a damn thing. If they were smart, they would be able to get into the manuscript, change the ISBN and have a live paperback, but neither one of them, mom or daughter are smart....
The defendant deserves $450 an hr for having to deal with that woman. No surprise nobody purchased the book it sounds like a hot mess snorefest. Clearly the plaintiff thought she was going to cash in on her emotional experience and it bombed horribly.
Judge Milian got a lot a nerve talking about act like a duck and let it roll off of you. She has gone off on PLENTY of people for less. Then, she makes the defendant help her some more?!?!?
I feel for the plaintiff, the loss of a child is the worst thing a parent can go through but with that said she can barely articulate what happened to her son and is struggling to communicate her case. I can only imagine what that book must have been like. Yikes.
According to news articles, a woman’s birthday party led to a water fight. The woman splashed the plaintiffs son with water by accident, and he retaliated by splashing GATORADE on the woman. The woman told her boyfriend and the and next day, her boyfriend knocked on the plaintiffs door asking for her son to come down and fight the boyfriend. The plaintiff says "he’s too tired". However later that day at 1pm, the plaintiffs son was sitting in the same area the water fight happened, two men ran up to him and shot him to death.
JM was talking out of both sides of her mouth on this one. First she's screaming at the plaintiff that this is her issue, only to put the defendant on the spot a few minutes later and demand she expend free labor because the plaintiff didn't want to learn how to do anything. That really wasn't cool.
Self publishing is a difficult undertaking. People think oh yeah I can churn out a story and press publish and make money but that couldn’t be further from the truth. You have to wear all the hats-editor, marketer, cover design-or else bankroll people to do it for you. And that takes a heck load of research. The problem here is that the plaintiff didn’t do that research. She doesn’t even have a basic understanding of how to make a contract with someone. She handed over a deeply emotional project to another person and hoped everything would turn out okay.
I've been publishing with KDP since 2016, and yes, it is a huge undertaking in order to provide a quality product. There are a lot of steps involved. Honestly, I don't understand why the defendant did things the way she did, but whatever. Plaintiff should have just submitted it to a vanity press and been done with it.
She felt a connection to the Plantiff that’s why…. I would have told the Judge I get paid for that information and she needs to pay me. PERIODT #iamToriSimmons
Because she's showing the plaintiff preferential treatment. It could be b/c her son was k*lled & also b/c they're both Hispanics. I've seen the judge be unfair showing partiality like this before, so I wouldn't have trusted her to be fair in this case. If I was the defendant, I would not have agreed to come on her show; I would've wanted a real judge who doesn't rule based too much on emotion and social/ cultural partiality.
I feel bad for the defendant… she deserves so much more than what she got. Y’all ever had to play IT for the elders/non-techies in your family? Geesh 🤯😅
@@ladyofthecentury 😂😂 you’re probably right but I also respect that not everyone is evolving with tech… although it does come with consequences like this lbs
They are older than me and im 35 and not tech savvy myself and most ppl ik older than me are computer illiterate and are shocked when i say i am as well 😅
She didn't even read the manuscript. This was supposed to be a special project she chose to do in memory of her departed son, and she became lazy on her part of the process. I'm sure her son appreciated that.
I thought I heard it wrong 😂Even professional authors rarely sell their 400 pages books for that amount. She should've made it $0.99 for the ebook and $2.99 for the print, then at least some people would've bought it.
@@Lilyrose23 yup. And iirc from watching a few videos on youtube, the amazon printing tells you how much it costs to print the book, calculating physical materials and Amazon's fee. It allows you to see how much you make from each book sold. Unless she's using uber premium materials (doubtful given the copy she held up in the video), but could probably reduce the size of the book to a more standard novel size and reduce costs of printing. But at those prices, she's only gonna sell to friends and family.
I was an electronics technician in the Navy who had a propensity of blowing stuff up. This earned me the unflattering nickname of "Sparky the E.T." So take some advice from old Sparky: Even if you know that the circuit breaker is disabled always measure the voltage with a voltmeter before proceeding. Another good practice is to tag the breaker so that somebody doesn't go behind you and turn it back on while you're working.
Maybe the plaintiff feels entitled because her son died. But this is the defendant's occupation. We live in an information society. The plaintiff needs to be less intrusive. I do feel sorry for what happened to her son. Perhaps writing the book made her grieve more and she took her frustrations out on the defendant (who was extremely professional). JM was wrong to make the defendant help the woman on the computer and give her $25.
How was the $25 wrong? The book was published into the wrong account and those were the royalties owed to the plaintiff from 3 sales while the book was under the wrong account.
Sad background doesnt give you a pass on accountability. Her loss (rip), contents of her publishing, is actually not a factor here. The plaintiffs lack of understanding is her own doing or not doing at this point. Pete sake. This is not a language barrier, its a lack of understanding and truly trying by DOING or properly communicating. This case could have been a good 8 minutes shorter if she could learn to speak thoroughly. Judge Milan asking a favor of the defendant, smh. She needs some overtime now. Yipes.
I feel that the defendant took advantage, because of the plaintiff lack of knowledge and communication. She also had her bank information for payment methods. She's a con artist in my eyes.
@@Bigapemonkey0314 I never had her bank account, her Amazon portal is what they're referring to as account. This woman didn't have much money to begin with, which is why i gave her a discounted price; never mind her bank account.
My deepest condolences to the plaintiff. Her pain is one no parent should ever have to endure. The case: topic of the book aside, the plaintiff must accept her mistakes throughout the editing and publishing process. If she was still overwhelmed and dealing with her grief, publishing the book should have been paused until her head was a bit clearer. Grieving cannot be an excuse for not proofreading after the EDITOR has made corrections and/or changes. I can understand her pain and anger being misdirected towards the defendant in the moment. However, at some point, she must take accountability for rushing the book during this very fragile time in her life. The defendant fulfilled her part and shouldn't have been dragged to court. I don't know what the plaintiff said in her voicemails, but I do hope the defendant learned a lesson in professionalism and empathy. Some things are not worth responding to and fueling the flame. Best of luck to both parties.
Let’s remove her son dying from the situation because that really has NOTHING TO DO with the case! It’s about a book publishing NOT HER SONS DEATH. Goodness.
This woman is publishing a book IN ORDER TO get her sons story out in the world. She WANTS to discuss her son and his untimely death, that is the purpose of the book and the book has everything to do with the case
@@Britty0189 it doesn’t matter ? The judge can talk about whatever she wants that is related to the case in her courtroom and it almost always has a personal aspect aside from the case if you watch often.
I had to do all of these things when I published my own book and luckily I had a coach to walk me through everything. I could only imagine doing this with limited tech skills. They were a horrible match from the start.
I kept waiting for Judge Milian to tell the plaintiff to STOP SMACKING THE PODIUM. Yeesh, that was annoying. I mean, feel for the woman. Losing a child is something no parent should ever have to experience. But yeah... I can see where her book would have been a trainwreck that would need a massive rewrite. I agree with others here that the defendent should have been paid for her time in court, since she had to fix the ISBN number in the manuscript, which means she had to open and edit the document again... which should be compensable.
I think the plaintiff is a thug. When the judge asked about arrest in the sons case she was sketchy and knows it's wasn't just a petty argument... The defendant went above and beyond. She edited a book without compensation. Now the judge has the nerve to get her to do more work at court. I think not. I would have told her she can fix it by going through the prompts or hiring another professional. But I'm petty 😂
That’s not petty! I would have said the same dang thing! I need to be compensated for my time as she does! Judge M. Wouldn’t work for free “as a favor” so why would she! Make it make sense #iamToriSimmons
This case is an example of Milian being emotional and allowing her emotions to determine the issue. The defendant went beyond what was required of her. It’s irrational sometimes how Milian reasons. She is making the defendant help the plaintiff more simply as a favor to her!! Professional editors would have charged the plaintiff a lot more and stopped communicating once their responsibilities were fulfilled. Milian always preaches about the court’s responsibility to make people whole. Yet, she routinely avoids this by not compensating people for their time.
@@shannoncarlson6960 In a literal sense, yes, you’re correct. However, you ignore the power dynamics, the defendant’s good character, and Milian using her position to persuade the defendant. My main points still stand.
Litigants don’t ordinarily get compensated for their time spent in litigation. I’m not sure how many times you have to hear this from JM or anyone else to understand it. In the American legal system, it’s not something courts award. Because we want to encourage the resolution of disputes in our courts. I really, really hope you get it now. If not, then you’re intentionally ignoring the point. So again, how is JM avoiding making the parties whole by not awarding damages for their time in court?? (She’s not.)
@@RumbleRish You’re creating a Strawman argument. And you’re arguing against yourself. I’m not saying people should be compensated for attending court. The defendant did everything professionally necessary to settle the issue outside of court. I’m only expressing frustration at how Milian used her position to coerce someone to do more work than required outside of court. Milian admitted this a few times. The defendant is now doing extra work outside of court for which she isn’t getting paid because the plaintiff is inept. The fair thing to do is to have the plaintiff pay someone else an hourly wage to finish correcting her errors. In this case, Milian is being emotional. She’s employing non-legal ethics within the court to produce actions outside of court that create further unfairness, and avoid making the defendant whole. It’s manipulating a loophole.
@@DaChubbyOneLLC I mean we definitely agree that JM got the defendant to do more work than she was required to (disagree that JM made/coerced her; she made it clear that it would just be a favor to her and it was clear that it wouldn’t have had any effect on the verdict b/c JM already indicated that defendant did nothing wrong prior to asking the favor). However, I view it as not a big deal whereas you see it as an illegal, unethical and manipulative act which furthers unfairness. It probably took the defendant less than five minutes to accomplish the favor (she simply changed one set of numbers). Even if JM’s ask was wrong (we agree on that), it’s far from manipulative, coercive, illegal, or furthering unfairness. She asked a person for a quick easy favor so that a woman who’s been through a lot won’t have to worry about it anymore. It’s impressive how heinously you were able to frame it. We’ll just have to disagree.
I'm sorry for the loss of her son. However, I wish she would focus on the police and/or lawyers to get the person who killed her child instead of profiting from her son's death. Then, at least, the book would have some form of finality/conclusion to the story. I know some people would say she may be scared to state who it was that murdered her son, etc. However, the problem with that thinking is that she is on the People's Court, a nationally syndicated show where people will see this, and she published a book on Amazon, where names and/or fictional names are probably mentioned.
I wrote a paper when working on my last degree on Amazon and how it enabled anyone with a bad book to get it in print. A little unfair as some are pretty good. Putting it initially into your own KDP account is a bit odd. Better to help them set up an account and avoid all these problems. Edit: the book is live, I just found it. ISBN is created by Amazon. It's not really that hard.
WISE TO LEARN THE KINDLE DIRECT PUBLISHING PROCEDURE YOURSELF. THEN YOU CAN WRITE MANY BOOKS. HARDER TO GET BOOK REVIEWS THAN LEARNING THE E-BOOK PUBLISHING PROCESS. INVEST IN YOURSELF. LEARN HOW TO DO DIGITAL PUBLISHING
If the plaintiff writes as she speaks, I would imagine there was a lot of corrections. The plaintiffs inability to use the computer is not the defendants problem.
I have been shocked more times than id like to admit. The worst was reaching into a breaker panel that turned on the barn lights at my moms. I had no idea her husband had been working on the panel and had taken the metal plate that covers all the wires off so I just reached in there looking for the lever as usual (its always pitch black till you flip the lever) and boy did I find out.... it was so bad I couldnt let go of it. When I walked into the house they said my hair was literally sticking up in places, I also immediately started sweating all over. Evidently that much electricity can kill a person very easily. Thank goodness my body absorbed it somehow. I have never touched that switch since.
As I stated I was curious, so if you wanted to give a time stamp to where your story coincided with the case or simply explained it, that would of been much appreciated. Instead you chose to display a weak mindset by being unnecessarily condensing. 🙃
Umm sorry, it's extremely sad that a life was lost here, but the plaintiff sense to just care about the money that her son's story brings to her. And that pisses me off.
Definitely feel bad for the plaintiff but the defendant did a lot of work. Self-publishing is hard because every detail is up to you and you can't go back and be disappointed at someone you paid $500 to help. I think her book could have had a bigger influence if she had taken time to review every detail. It takes me on average over a year to self-publish my books...after it's written. Don't rush it.
The "judge" broke the law here and should be prosecuted for abuse of power! She forced the defendant to work for free simply bc she felt bad for the plaintiff. It's NOT the defendants responsibility! If the "judge" wants to help, she can pay someone else to do it. Especially after denying the defendant wage compensation.
It made no sense for an Author not to re-read the manuscript after been the editor changed it. Not a good idea. The Plaintiff's story doesn't match the truth. This story was "fishy" 😮.
Wrote a book to get $ for the loss of her child, I really would have hated to edit something like that. A book called a Hott Mess was saying it nicely!!
My older cousin doesn't know how to use a computer, didn't put his money in a bank, doesn't know how to use credit/debit cards or a cell phone. He did this by choice too thinking he could go through life ignoring the world turning and using cash for everything. He's 60. Now he's forced to use cell phones and bank cards in order to get paid and expects everyone to help him and we're all tired of his BS and don't bother helping anymore.
The plaintiff needs to adjust her life. There is a reason no one came forward over her sons murder and it's likely as much to do with her behaviour as the apparent murderer and she has muddied the case I don't see a best seller here
It appears as though the plaintiff had good intentions in writing the book, however she clearly did not understand the business side of publishing a book. She lacks computer skills, not sure why the daughter couldn't have taken over for her mother, it entailed her reading emails and following links. The defendant needs to change her business practices as well. It was an interesting case, and a nice change from the usual loan issues, and 'Buyers remorse' vehicle purchases.
@@aaliyahmackay3775 I am sorry that it turned out this way, asking for assistance can be difficult for some people. My condolences on your brother's death, no mother should have to bury their child. I hope things have improved for her since the episode aired.
@@aaliyahmackay3775 you should encourage your mother to pick up her education from wherever she left off. So she won’t continue to have these types of problems. She is very far behind and cannot do simple tasks, and she is not a baby boomer. She is young. She needs to improve her skills and learn how to be able to communicate effectively and needs to improve her comprehension skills. She’s much too young for this. Hopefully you will look out for your mother and encourage her to do better.
I feel for the plantiff...im sorry she lost her son. But, if she had no idea what she was doing, she should have been better to the plantiff.. emotional or not, there is a way to talk to someone who has services you need. Yes, the defendant shouldn't have said those mean things either, but the plantiff (clearly by what we saw in court) needed a lot of help and hand holding, she knew that so she should have tried to keep herself together so she could get her book completed without issue.
I'm a freelance writer/editor. It sounds like the defendant was hired to do formatting and just getting it onto Amazon. Copyediting is much more labour/time intensive, especially if there are a lot of grammatical issues. It sounds like the defendant went way beyond what she was paid for. When copyediting, I ask the author a number of questions regarding usages, and every single change I make has to be approved by the author, a process made relatively simple by "track changes".
Wow, this is a great case to learn from and a lesson because this poor editor has had to go above and beyond as a favor to the judge because of a writer not having the capacity to utilize a computer properly. Wild.
I recently lost my son too, that doesn’t mean everyone wants to read about his life. A book? That’s one too far. It was a great and therapeutic way to grieve by writing this book, but expecting ppl to buy something bc you thought your son was special is a bridge too far. If She were a very well know author some may have bought a book about the death of her son. But this lady wouldn’t even read her own book. And I’d bet the bank the spelling and grammar error were numerous.
You know you watch this show too much when they're explaining the case and you openly say "you can't get emotional distress for a case like this". 🤣🤣🤣
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and remedy for coming to court ….win
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So true!!! 😂
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The plaintiff really struggles to communicate. I can only imagine the raw state of her original draft.
There are plenty of people who can’t openly communicate BUT are a lot better when putting words into writing. It’s common for someone to be able to express themselves well in writing but can’t communicate as well out loud in front of someone/people.
@Kylie Marie yeah not in this case. I know it sounds rude, but listening to her, you just know that her manuscript is going to need to be re-written in order for it to be good enough for a book.....
Agreed. If the manuscript was anything like her grammar, it would need work. It sounds horrible but it's true....
@@lolalopez7657 u mean, if her manuscript was anything like her diction***
Defendant has the patience of Job. Professional and honest. No one on earth would have worked with the plaintiff. Ungrateful and ignorant. For safety, she shouldn’t bring clients into her home.
As a writer and editor, I can firmly say that the Plaintiff's book was a mess. The way she speaks, saying she edited it herself and that she can't figure out computers... no. Lord, no. Write a manuscript and give it to your friends rather than think it's going to sell. Editors are EXTREMELY underpaid because of people like this. We fix things, and the writer says, "I could've done that..." No. You couldn't. That's why we fixed it.
I work in printing and a lot of it also is because of dumbass people who demand their shit be perfect, whether it be pictures, videos, flyers and yes, even books. When they want us to do shit like editing and then get pissed off we want to get PAID for doing what they can't.
"Why? you just spend 5 minutes to fix it, how could it be worth an editing fee?" "Because you didn't know how to do it."
"Why would you charge us to design a brochure for us?" "Because you didn't know how to do it and that takes time"
And then my god all the whole rewrites? Yeah so now it's a 2 drafts and done, if you can't tell us what you want after that, we keep the money, you gtfo.
And the editing isn't even my job. I just know how to do it. We're not supposed to make files, we're supposed to PRINT print ready files
Ridiculous the entitlement from the world's imbeciles who think them not knowing how to do shit entitles them to MY expertise for free.
And this isn't even going over the phone calls trying to get me to fix their printers for free.
I knew as soon as she started talking that her case was messy and made no sense. No way anyone would think it was any good
Editing is so tedious. It’s almost not worth it when the writer has major grammatical errors in every sentence. Then they want to rush you like it can be done in a day. Smh. I edited 300 pages of pure chaos for a friend. Never again.
You ain't lying 💁🏿♀️ I enjoy it but it's like walking on eggshells sometimes
Judge really went above and beyond for the plaintiff. As a young adult, I see things everyday that reinforce why my mama didn’t play about my education.
You can say that again.
Period!👏🏾👏🏾
Anybody know if these are post Covid?
The judge overstepped
@@meechee2too754Big time. This is why I like Judge Judy more.
The defendant called the book a hot mess, and I could understand why. The plaintiff had a hard time explaining what the book was about. I could only imagine reading it, and trying to comprehend it, minus the language conversion.
I wasn’t able to put it in words as elegant as you did.
2 mins agree and can’t agree more like wtf
Right. She needed a co-writer not a publisher
Exactly, I was annoyed listening to her honestly
@@shesuniqueinherownwaybenja7647 Serious question: why where you annoyed? What made it annoying?
I’m not judging or looking for a discussion or argument or anything like that.
I am just genuinely curious, since I myself did not perceive it as annoying.
I did find her a bit chaotic during the hearing though.
"I don't know computers" should no longer be an excuse to not know anything
Agreed!
That excuse just isn’t good. Especially at the ages that they both are. She is of the computer generation too. They are hardly any jobs where you don’t use computers.
Meh…
SHE IS OVERWHELMED.
The defendant deserves more than $450
It had to be a lot of work
My thoughts exactly
@@dunkinjunkie5868 this judge is trash
Right? I'm a proofreader and editor. Worth way more!
That part.
An insane amount of work
That author did all her very best to help a person like Maria who did not have it all together… food for taught
The defendant was working in court and should be paid! Not no one’s fault the plaintiff doesn’t know how to fix her problems with her account.
Right, and then the judge puts it on her to help her publish her book on her own portal. Like she always says, THATS A U PROBLEM...
Millan made her work for free as a "favor" after denying her missed work? Thats messed up! 😂
Thank you... that was ridiculous. All because the plaintiff didn't do her part.
@@rinnypink i agree! The defendant was totally over looked :/
I would've told the judge to give me my lost wages then I'll do it! f her If not, Get somebody else to do it!
Plaintiff is the kind of client you never want to take on. Just messy and it drags on.
Meanwhile the Defendant did all she could to help the Plantiff get her work out but the Plantiff still has complaints kind of like nothing is good enough👀🤦♂️
I agree, especially when dealing with such a sensitive subject. They needed a middle man who didn’t have the emotional connection to the book/story.
It's not that! I feel that the defendant weren't explaining what she was doing, while doing it.
@@MsBenitaButrell exactly
she isn't so tech-savvy too! I feel sorry for her!!
I wrote a book and went through allll the samethings this woman is going through and all I had to do was READDDD. The plaintiff is ridiculous…reading is fundamental
U were also ridiculous, especially since you wrote a book and went through the same thing as she 😂😂😂
But I get it... could happen to anyone.
She may not be a reader at all in the first place. I LOVE reading, but I could never write a book. I doubt the plaintive reads for pleasure.
I’m sympathetic to both sides. My condolences to the mother. 🙏🏾
Sorry for Plaintiff’s loss however She was doing to much and rested on not being tech savvy….. no excuse! She was doing more work than she was suppose too
She also changed her password 😂
The judge has really got to let people explain instead of talking over them.
The bottom line is the plaintiff didn't know what to do she blamed the defendant...she needs to figure IT OUT
The plaintiff couldn't even thoroughly explain what happened to her son, so I can only imagine what that book is like - all over the place with no details.
Maybe she wanted people to buy the book and not give the story out for free
@@Imani668No one's going to buy a book if they don't know what it's about.
@BlueIvysAssistant thank you
According to one comment, he was killed over the pettiest thing. It was a young lady’s birthday, and they were having a water fight. Whether was poured in the son, and then son threw Gatorade on the young lady, the young lady hit her boyfriend involved. The boyfriend should up at the plantiff’s house asking for her son so they can fight, the plantiff told the boyfriend her son was too tired. The son was spotted at the same place the water fight took place and the boyfriend and someone else approached him and shot him
I LOVE that Judge Milian has sensitivity toward the Mom 🙏🙏🙏
The plaintiff has a sad story and i wish the best for her and her family… But it seems to me she takes no responsibility for her part in this case. I was feeling like this, i was feeling like that, and the defendant knew it. Thats not an accuse!
Plaintiff was expecting something for nothing.
Shut up bitchh. She really wasn't. She trusted the writer
Always looking for the DISCOUNT.
Pretty much
Public libraries provide basic technology classes, especially in NY free of charge.
That’s bull, the Plaintiff clearly said she didn’t know how to do the “computer stuff” once the portal was on her side she didn’t know how to do it , that’s not the Defendants fault.
The defendant deserves more. Feel very sorry for the plaintiffs loss but she was wrong in this.
The plaintiff just mad her book didn't sell many copies. Prob only a cpl family members or friends bought it. Woman was annoying and couldn't explain anything.
Her book had one tragedy after another. I got dizzy reading and fixing her writing. She was not ready to publish a book, nevertheless, be a plaintiff in a lawsuit. She was all over the place, stuttering, we even had a recess so her and her kid can figure out how to get into her KDP account. It was pathetic and they were pathetic. The END! and to date her book is still in limbo, because I'm not helping them do a damn thing. If they were smart, they would be able to get into the manuscript, change the ISBN and have a live paperback, but neither one of them, mom or daughter are smart....
@@shondamuse1919all they saw was a way of making a quick buck and probably thought it would make them rich.
Hello Shonda, what is the name of the Plaintiff book?
So sorry for your loss but I understand the defendant needing to help you with this book.
The defendant deserves $450 an hr for having to deal with that woman. No surprise nobody purchased the book it sounds like a hot mess snorefest. Clearly the plaintiff thought she was going to cash in on her emotional experience and it bombed horribly.
She really needs someone else trying to promote this book. She barely even knew what her own book was about
I really wish the plaintiff would quit hitting the table every time she answers any questions
Judge Milian got a lot a nerve talking about act like a duck and let it roll off of you. She has gone off on PLENTY of people for less. Then, she makes the defendant help her some more?!?!?
Judge Judy would have just yelled, “Your problem!”
I feel for the plaintiff, the loss of a child is the worst thing a parent can go through but with that said she can barely articulate what happened to her son and is struggling to communicate her case. I can only imagine what that book must have been like. Yikes.
I believe she had a hard time explaining it because she did not want to share the dynamics of the case.
Agreed.
According to news articles, a woman’s birthday party led to a water fight. The woman splashed the plaintiffs son with water by accident, and he retaliated by splashing GATORADE on the woman. The woman told her boyfriend and the and next day, her boyfriend knocked on the plaintiffs door asking for her son to come down and fight the boyfriend. The plaintiff says "he’s too tired". However later that day at 1pm, the plaintiffs son was sitting in the same area the water fight happened, two men ran up to him and shot him to death.
Maybe she did the book too soon.
@@shavonnehurst4752 I can't believe a young boy died because of something so petty. That really just blew me away.
JM was talking out of both sides of her mouth on this one. First she's screaming at the plaintiff that this is her issue, only to put the defendant on the spot a few minutes later and demand she expend free labor because the plaintiff didn't want to learn how to do anything. That really wasn't cool.
I don't think she should have asked her to do this for her. She was very ungrateful and difficult. I wouldn't have done anything else for her.
Self publishing is a difficult undertaking. People think oh yeah I can churn out a story and press publish and make money but that couldn’t be further from the truth. You have to wear all the hats-editor, marketer, cover design-or else bankroll people to do it for you. And that takes a heck load of research. The problem here is that the plaintiff didn’t do that research. She doesn’t even have a basic understanding of how to make a contract with someone. She handed over a deeply emotional project to another person and hoped everything would turn out okay.
I've been publishing with KDP since 2016, and yes, it is a huge undertaking in order to provide a quality product. There are a lot of steps involved. Honestly, I don't understand why the defendant did things the way she did, but whatever. Plaintiff should have just submitted it to a vanity press and been done with it.
So so sorry for this woman’s loss.
Why does the defendant have to do extra work "as a personal favor for Judge Milion" for the person that is suing.
She felt a connection to the Plantiff that’s why…. I would have told the Judge I get paid for that information and she needs to pay me. PERIODT #iamToriSimmons
Because she's showing the plaintiff preferential treatment. It could be b/c her son was k*lled & also b/c they're both Hispanics. I've seen the judge be unfair showing partiality like this before, so I wouldn't have trusted her to be fair in this case. If I was the defendant, I would not have agreed to come on her show; I would've wanted a real judge who doesn't rule based too much on emotion and social/ cultural partiality.
I feel bad for the defendant… she deserves so much more than what she got. Y’all ever had to play IT for the elders/non-techies in your family? Geesh 🤯😅
She isn’t an elderly or and elder. She is uneducated and unmotivated to do for herself. She chooses helplessness
@@ladyofthecenturyThey said elders/ “NON-TECHIES”, so your reply doesn’t apply here.
@@katiebangs9366 she isn’t old enough to be a non tech person. She’s just lazy in my opinion
@@ladyofthecentury 😂😂 you’re probably right but I also respect that not everyone is evolving with tech… although it does come with consequences like this lbs
They are older than me and im 35 and not tech savvy myself and most ppl ik older than me are computer illiterate and are shocked when i say i am as well 😅
She didn't even read the manuscript. This was supposed to be a special project she chose to do in memory of her departed son, and she became lazy on her part of the process. I'm sure her son appreciated that.
$18 for an 80 page book.
I thought I heard it wrong 😂Even professional authors rarely sell their 400 pages books for that amount. She should've made it $0.99 for the ebook and $2.99 for the print, then at least some people would've bought it.
@@Lilyrose23 yup. And iirc from watching a few videos on youtube, the amazon printing tells you how much it costs to print the book, calculating physical materials and Amazon's fee. It allows you to see how much you make from each book sold. Unless she's using uber premium materials (doubtful given the copy she held up in the video), but could probably reduce the size of the book to a more standard novel size and reduce costs of printing. But at those prices, she's only gonna sell to friends and family.
@@benjie128 the book looked cheap as hell!
Especially for a new, unknown, rookie author....
She's probably suing because no books sold.
Defendant went above and beyond
She is not happy because nobody wants to buy it. So sorry for her.
damn right lol
Exactly..her story is not unique…may be unique to her but not to the public
Judge you gotta put your emotions to the side. I felt like she didn't do that in this case
I wish the plaintiff would stop pounding the podium
If anyone wonders what an ISBN is, it's an International Standard Book Number.
I was an electronics technician in the Navy who had a propensity of blowing stuff up. This earned me the unflattering nickname of "Sparky the E.T." So take some advice from old Sparky: Even if you know that the circuit breaker is disabled always measure the voltage with a voltmeter before proceeding. Another good practice is to tag the breaker so that somebody doesn't go behind you and turn it back on while you're working.
Alright I'll try to remember that !!
I can’t even finish watching 🤦🏽♀️
Maybe the plaintiff feels entitled because her son died. But this is the defendant's occupation. We live in an information society. The plaintiff needs to be less intrusive.
I do feel sorry for what happened to her son. Perhaps writing the book made her grieve more and she took her frustrations out on the defendant (who was extremely professional). JM was wrong to make the defendant help the woman on the computer and give her $25.
she does...no one else ever suffers loss..only her..
The defendant agreed she owed the 25$ in royalties to the plaintiff so idk why the judge wouldnt order her to pay it back.
That's an excellent point. I agree that maybe her story would be different, but sadly, what happens everyday unfortunately.
How was the $25 wrong? The book was published into the wrong account and those were the royalties owed to the plaintiff from 3 sales while the book was under the wrong account.
Facts
The plaintiff is a career victim!
Ahhhh man…. I can see that smh
Why she found a prime opportunity to make money off her sons death
@@Britty0189It could be that she wrote it to work through some of her own grief.
Sadly I agree
I agree, she cultivates her victimhood alright….
Sad background doesnt give you a pass on accountability. Her loss (rip), contents of her publishing, is actually not a factor here. The plaintiffs lack of understanding is her own doing or not doing at this point. Pete sake. This is not a language barrier, its a lack of understanding and truly trying by DOING or properly communicating. This case could have been a good 8 minutes shorter if she could learn to speak thoroughly. Judge Milan asking a favor of the defendant, smh. She needs some overtime now. Yipes.
Yikes?
@@missbradicah google yipes it's a real word. interjection. informal an expression of surprise, fear, or alarm. There I did it for you lol.
I feel that the defendant took advantage, because of the plaintiff lack of knowledge and communication. She also had her bank information for payment methods. She's a con artist in my eyes.
@@Bigapemonkey0314 I never had her bank account, her Amazon portal is what they're referring to as account. This woman didn't have much money to begin with, which is why i gave her a discounted price; never mind her bank account.
$17.99 for an 80 page book by an unknown author??? She is delusional! 😟
I publish through KDP all the time... Lemme find out I can be making bank doing it for other people 😩
I’d pay 👁👄👁
It’s too tedious lol
Get on fiver $$$ …I say as I need to be putting my skills on fiver 😅
Judge moolihan is such class-she went out of her way to help this mother:)💗💗💗
My deepest condolences to the plaintiff. Her pain is one no parent should ever have to endure.
The case: topic of the book aside, the plaintiff must accept her mistakes throughout the editing and publishing process. If she was still overwhelmed and dealing with her grief, publishing the book should have been paused until her head was a bit clearer. Grieving cannot be an excuse for not proofreading after the EDITOR has made corrections and/or changes. I can understand her pain and anger being misdirected towards the defendant in the moment. However, at some point, she must take accountability for rushing the book during this very fragile time in her life. The defendant fulfilled her part and shouldn't have been dragged to court. I don't know what the plaintiff said in her voicemails, but I do hope the defendant learned a lesson in professionalism and empathy. Some things are not worth responding to and fueling the flame. Best of luck to both parties.
At the end he set the pins up with. “how did you like the book”? she sure knocked them down with a strong “ it was a hot mess “😅😅😅😅 yo im done!! Lol
I could only imagine the difficulty of reading her memoirs...
When she said, 'I thought it was a hot mess. I died! 🤣😂😅
"I thought it was a hot mess. She's been through a lot." lmaooo
I wouldn't want to read anything she wrote
Even if it was free
The plaintiff is inarticulate, poor thing.
The plaintiff didn't know what to do,how to have access to her portals.
Let’s remove her son dying from the situation because that really has NOTHING TO DO with the case! It’s about a book publishing NOT HER SONS DEATH. Goodness.
The book is abt her son death
This woman is publishing a book IN ORDER TO get her sons story out in the world. She WANTS to discuss her son and his untimely death, that is the purpose of the book and the book has everything to do with the case
The books topic is unrelated
@@Britty0189 it doesn’t matter ? The judge can talk about whatever she wants that is related to the case in her courtroom and it almost always has a personal aspect aside from the case if you watch often.
@@katiebaker8991 I was regarding the comments on the video, not the video itself.
Exactly, she should of read it after she made alterations and corrections.
Lmfao “I thought it was a hot mess! She’s been through a lot 🙃” shady as hell lol 😅
Same thing I said!
I don’t think it was shady, I think she was telling the truth.
I will never NEVER understand why people pay cash for things and never get receipts.
I had to do all of these things when I published my own book and luckily I had a coach to walk me through everything. I could only imagine doing this with limited tech skills. They were a horrible match from the start.
I’ll never get over the commentator in the beginning with that sarcastic voice 😂
I kept waiting for Judge Milian to tell the plaintiff to STOP SMACKING THE PODIUM. Yeesh, that was annoying. I mean, feel for the woman. Losing a child is something no parent should ever have to experience. But yeah... I can see where her book would have been a trainwreck that would need a massive rewrite. I agree with others here that the defendent should have been paid for her time in court, since she had to fix the ISBN number in the manuscript, which means she had to open and edit the document again... which should be compensable.
Great case. Very interesting. I hope the girls figuered it out.
I think the plaintiff is a thug. When the judge asked about arrest in the sons case she was sketchy and knows it's wasn't just a petty argument... The defendant went above and beyond. She edited a book without compensation. Now the judge has the nerve to get her to do more work at court. I think not. I would have told her she can fix it by going through the prompts or hiring another professional. But I'm petty 😂
My thoughts exactly
Well maybe she’s not inclined to discuss that with the judge. She doesn’t have to talk about it
That’s not petty! I would have said the same dang thing! I need to be compensated for my time as she does! Judge M. Wouldn’t work for free “as a favor” so why would she! Make it make sense #iamToriSimmons
"Hot Mess" 😆😅🤣😂
What a waste of valuable court time
“I thought it was a hot mess, she’s been thru a lot.” 😮😮😮
Her daughter couldn’t help with the technology part? What kind of Gen Z is she?? 🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
not gen z catching strays in the comments lol
This felt like a 25 minute Amazon ad
This case is an example of Milian being emotional and allowing her emotions to determine the issue. The defendant went beyond what was required of her. It’s irrational sometimes how Milian reasons. She is making the defendant help the plaintiff more simply as a favor to her!! Professional editors would have charged the plaintiff a lot more and stopped communicating once their responsibilities were fulfilled. Milian always preaches about the court’s responsibility to make people whole. Yet, she routinely avoids this by not compensating people for their time.
Ummm geez...the defendant doesn't HAVE to help. Listen more carefully. She didn't make an order of it. The defendant could just say no.
@@shannoncarlson6960 In a literal sense, yes, you’re correct.
However, you ignore the power dynamics, the defendant’s good character, and Milian using her position to persuade the defendant.
My main points still stand.
Litigants don’t ordinarily get compensated for their time spent in litigation. I’m not sure how many times you have to hear this from JM or anyone else to understand it. In the American legal system, it’s not something courts award. Because we want to encourage the resolution of disputes in our courts. I really, really hope you get it now. If not, then you’re intentionally ignoring the point. So again, how is JM avoiding making the parties whole by not awarding damages for their time in court?? (She’s not.)
@@RumbleRish You’re creating a Strawman argument.
And you’re arguing against yourself.
I’m not saying people should be compensated for attending court. The defendant did everything professionally necessary to settle the issue outside of court. I’m only expressing frustration at how Milian used her position to coerce someone to do more work than required outside of court. Milian admitted this a few times.
The defendant is now doing extra work outside of court for which she isn’t getting paid because the plaintiff is inept. The fair thing to do is to have the plaintiff pay someone else an hourly wage to finish correcting her errors.
In this case, Milian is being emotional. She’s employing non-legal ethics within the court to produce actions outside of court that create further unfairness, and avoid making the defendant whole. It’s manipulating a loophole.
@@DaChubbyOneLLC I mean we definitely agree that JM got the defendant to do more work than she was required to (disagree that JM made/coerced her; she made it clear that it would just be a favor to her and it was clear that it wouldn’t have had any effect on the verdict b/c JM already indicated that defendant did nothing wrong prior to asking the favor). However, I view it as not a big deal whereas you see it as an illegal, unethical and manipulative act which furthers unfairness. It probably took the defendant less than five minutes to accomplish the favor (she simply changed one set of numbers). Even if JM’s ask was wrong (we agree on that), it’s far from manipulative, coercive, illegal, or furthering unfairness. She asked a person for a quick easy favor so that a woman who’s been through a lot won’t have to worry about it anymore. It’s impressive how heinously you were able to frame it. We’ll just have to disagree.
I'm sorry for the loss of her son. However, I wish she would focus on the police and/or lawyers to get the person who killed her child instead of profiting from her son's death. Then, at least, the book would have some form of finality/conclusion to the story.
I know some people would say she may be scared to state who it was that murdered her son, etc. However, the problem with that thinking is that she is on the People's Court, a nationally syndicated show where people will see this, and she published a book on Amazon, where names and/or fictional names are probably mentioned.
Defendant went above and beyond, under paid over worked
I wrote a paper when working on my last degree on Amazon and how it enabled anyone with a bad book to get it in print. A little unfair as some are pretty good. Putting it initially into your own KDP account is a bit odd. Better to help them set up an account and avoid all these problems. Edit: the book is live, I just found it. ISBN is created by Amazon. It's not really that hard.
WISE TO LEARN THE KINDLE DIRECT PUBLISHING PROCEDURE YOURSELF. THEN YOU CAN WRITE MANY BOOKS. HARDER TO GET BOOK REVIEWS THAN LEARNING THE E-BOOK PUBLISHING PROCESS. INVEST IN YOURSELF. LEARN HOW TO DO DIGITAL PUBLISHING
Can you put the link? I couldn't find it.)
If the plaintiff writes as she speaks, I would imagine there was a lot of corrections. The plaintiffs inability to use the computer is not the defendants problem.
I have been shocked more times than id like to admit. The worst was reaching into a breaker panel that turned on the barn lights at my moms. I had no idea her husband had been working on the panel and had taken the metal plate that covers all the wires off so I just reached in there looking for the lever as usual (its always pitch black till you flip the lever) and boy did I find out.... it was so bad I couldnt let go of it. When I walked into the house they said my hair was literally sticking up in places, I also immediately started sweating all over. Evidently that much electricity can kill a person very easily. Thank goodness my body absorbed it somehow. I have never touched that switch since.
I’m genuinely curious..how does that relate to this legal case?
@@EyeTapTapThruAds If you had watched the entire video you would know how it applies 🙂 next time watch to the end.
@@EyeTapTapThruAds Oh and it doesn’t apply to the case, more so to the video. The entire video is not just about the case.
As I stated I was curious, so if you wanted to give a time stamp to where your story coincided with the case or simply explained it, that would of been much appreciated. Instead you chose to display a weak mindset by being unnecessarily condensing. 🙃
Umm sorry, it's extremely sad that a life was lost here, but the plaintiff sense to just care about the money that her son's story brings to her. And that pisses me off.
absolutley shes a victim not...
That's what I said
She never answered
What time this happened
What time her minor child was out drinking
The judges need their own show! It would be interesting no matter the content or format!
I like defendant. I would work with her any day.
It's hard to believe the plaintiff can write, let alone author an entire book
Agreed
Definitely feel bad for the plaintiff but the defendant did a lot of work. Self-publishing is hard because every detail is up to you and you can't go back and be disappointed at someone you paid $500 to help. I think her book could have had a bigger influence if she had taken time to review every detail. It takes me on average over a year to self-publish my books...after it's written. Don't rush it.
never heard of u either..
@@Mimi197-f2z What a stupid thing to say
@@Mimi197-f2z let me guess you heard of all authors on earth? That is amazing, I bet your word knowledge is impeccable.
@@Bellalovelola she's dumb 😂
The "judge" broke the law here and should be prosecuted for abuse of power! She forced the defendant to work for free simply bc she felt bad for the plaintiff. It's NOT the defendants responsibility! If the "judge" wants to help, she can pay someone else to do it. Especially after denying the defendant wage compensation.
It made no sense for an Author not to re-read the manuscript after been the editor changed it. Not a good idea. The Plaintiff's story doesn't match the truth. This story was "fishy" 😮.
Wrote a book to get $ for the loss of her child, I really would have hated to edit something like that. A book called a Hott Mess was saying it nicely!!
“Poor Spanish and broken English” had me dying lmaoo because damn sis 😂
it was poor spanish for me lmao like the foundation is not even there
All i have to add is May she find comfort & peace.
Wow…doesn’t know how to use a computer in 2023 how pitiful.
My older cousin doesn't know how to use a computer, didn't put his money in a bank, doesn't know how to use credit/debit cards or a cell phone. He did this by choice too thinking he could go through life ignoring the world turning and using cash for everything. He's 60. Now he's forced to use cell phones and bank cards in order to get paid and expects everyone to help him and we're all tired of his BS and don't bother helping anymore.
But, I bet she on Face book
I see Maria came in there with Orula, and Ellegua for the help.
wink wink
As soon as I heard the text from the defendant to the plaintiff saying her thug ass I could hear JM saying “say it forget it, write it regret it”
The plaintiff needs to adjust her life. There is a reason no one came forward over her sons murder and it's likely as much to do with her behaviour as the apparent murderer and she has muddied the case
I don't see a best seller here
I feel very sorry for her loss, although I’m questioning the teen drinking. Her case wasn’t strong here !
It appears as though the plaintiff had good intentions in writing the book, however she clearly did not understand the business side of publishing a book.
She lacks computer skills, not sure why the daughter couldn't have taken over for her mother, it entailed her reading emails and following links.
The defendant needs to change her business practices as well. It was an interesting case, and a nice change from the usual loan issues, and 'Buyers remorse' vehicle purchases.
She never asked us for help , was more than capable but she moved too fast .
@aaliyahmackay3775 Sorry is this one of the litigants?
Yes Maria is my mother … she never asks for help Bc she scared of being screwed over . She never asked her kids for help
@@aaliyahmackay3775 I am sorry that it turned out this way, asking for assistance can be difficult for some people.
My condolences on your brother's death, no mother should have to bury their child.
I hope things have improved for her since the episode aired.
@@aaliyahmackay3775 you should encourage your mother to pick up her education from wherever she left off. So she won’t continue to have these types of problems.
She is very far behind and cannot do simple tasks, and she is not a baby boomer. She is young. She needs to improve her skills and learn how to be able to communicate effectively and needs to improve her comprehension skills. She’s much too young for this. Hopefully you will look out for your mother and encourage her to do better.
I feel for the plantiff...im sorry she lost her son. But, if she had no idea what she was doing, she should have been better to the plantiff.. emotional or not, there is a way to talk to someone who has services you need. Yes, the defendant shouldn't have said those mean things either, but the plantiff (clearly by what we saw in court) needed a lot of help and hand holding, she knew that so she should have tried to keep herself together so she could get her book completed without issue.
I'm a freelance writer/editor. It sounds like the defendant was hired to do formatting and just getting it onto Amazon. Copyediting is much more labour/time intensive, especially if there are a lot of grammatical issues. It sounds like the defendant went way beyond what she was paid for. When copyediting, I ask the author a number of questions regarding usages, and every single change I make has to be approved by the author, a process made relatively simple by "track changes".
Nice. I'm a translator, and do track changes, I'm not a writer yet, but that's my first passion.
@@NellieKAdaba I've had to teach some of my clients how to use track changes. I use it for my own writing, too, as I'm always editing it.
Wow, this is a great case to learn from and a lesson because this poor editor has had to go above and beyond as a favor to the judge because of a writer not having the capacity to utilize a computer properly. Wild.
I recently lost my son too, that doesn’t mean everyone wants to read about his life. A book? That’s one too far. It was a great and therapeutic way to grieve by writing this book, but expecting ppl to buy something bc you thought your son was special is a bridge too far.
If
She were a very well know author some may have bought a book about the death of her son. But this lady wouldn’t even read her own book. And I’d bet the bank the spelling and grammar error were numerous.
Such a tragic story. I wish the Mom had a lot more assistance getting her son's story together & published 😢
I thought he said “shot” 🤣 im over here like 😱