(New viewer? Watch the other AU vids on my channel for context.) +Though not confirmed, it's likely Sera is short for Seraphiel, an angel that appears in the Book of Enoch who has the same role that she does. The -el suffix in an angel’s name denotes God (Elohim). Because Hazbin wants to avoid references to God, this is likely why Sera had her name shortened. In this AU, she just likes to have a shorter name. +No room for Seth in this short so, the reason is that this nerd literally was too busy prepping flashcards for the trial that he was running late, much to the annoyance of Abel. +The First Family is all fluent in Hebrew (though that isn't the only reason I include it) and sometimes, it just slips out. +Adam and Seth are considered part of the Patriarchs. This specific class refers to those that can truly call themselves ‘Fathers of Humanity'. Included are figures such as Abraham, Noah, etc. They aren't at the trial. I don't wanna bloat the cast too much, though assume all biblical characters exist unless I say otherwise. The reason they don't show up is because this whole ordeal is seen as an immediate family affair. Example: Noah has his own opinions about this whole thing but like, he's just gonna vibe in the corner and keep out of that section of the family drama. Think of it like you're trying to eat Thanksgiving turkey in peace but your uncle and your dad start yelling about politics at the end of the table. +Cain is not considered a Patriarch given his disgraced status. Yes, he did reproduce but still, he is an outcast and not included in the club. +Abel would have been in the Patriarch club but we know what happened. Sometimes, he suppresses a seething envy/hate towards Seth. He hates that he feels that way and does care about his little brother but it gets to him sometimes. +The immediate Cainite line are sinners in Hell. A prominent descendant of his that is in Heaven is Naamah (Noah’s wife) and she's very much embarrassed of him. Its like “no no no, keep walking, do NOT make eye contact” +If I was the show runner, the trial would be a longer ordeal. The Respectless animatic was just one hectic portion of it, this was the beginning of it. Woo, late night upload. Whatever. But like, I didn't lie. I did release it today lol. If you want to see the animated bit in full screen, the short is on my channel.
@@kathywray9619 i wanna say, maybe pro exterminate? Like, 'if the flood didn't finish you sinners off, then Uncle Abel should finish the job'. Just an idea. Honestly, there were way more better suited biblical characters to be the Exorcist leader than Adam.
@@saffiroReally? I kinda figured he would be pro-redemption since it sounded like he tried really hard to convince other people to help construct his ark so they could be saved, too. Then again, there's probably a divide of pro-exorcism and pro-redemption where the Old and New Testaments split, so that would make sense. Not saying you're wrong--you are the creator of this AU, after all. Just figured that Noah would be rooting for redemption, even if he has to keep his support low profile.
Honestly, I would have to re read that portion of Genesis to get a better idea of what Noah would want. It could go either way in the future. Adam's story is at the very beginning while Noah is later.
I really hope that Adam will get furious and fight against council demands and keep fighting for Cain right to try and reach redemption. OR he comes to a point where he puts his foot down, putting his sons and the angels in line, reminding them that he is the FATHER OF ALL MANKIND and one of the oldest souls in heaven. (Really shaking everyone up a bit by how aggressive and, surprisingly, powerful he really is.) Other than my HC's, GREAT WORK! I LOVE YOUR ARTSTYLE AND THE SONGS YOU PICK REALLY FITS.
I like more this version because despite being bringer of joy, it doesn't make sense she is so protective of sinners or naive. Her job is bringing happiness but do you make believe all winners in HH got a nice and free trauma life? No, she should met a lot people who terribile abused/killed.. So she shouldn't be so sympathetic.
That final quote at the end... why do I have a feeling God's gonna show up at the end to pull a Book of Job on Emily and Abel, serving them a mad piece of humble pie by reminding them of their own cruel sins and mistakes, leading to their own punishments that can only be undone if Cain and Adam forgive them? Or maybe thats just wishful thinking. Either way, that quote at the end is definitely foreshadowing something related to the antagonists.
Me, who just picked a Bible verse about forgiveness: 🙃. But, I will give you this: you're on to something. Something not fun is going to happen to the shepherd boi.
I don't mean abel doesn't deserve a punishment but in same time God left extermination going on because sinners can't been trusted. I think God is going to show what's happening to eve and onders to save her
I was a fan of Hazbin Hotel since the pilot dropped on 2019 and was really looking forward to the actual show but I was disappointed by it, RUclips had been recommending me you 'hell is forever' video for almost a week but I usually rewatch old videos and I was recommended your AU part 1 about Cain and I was interested and then just watched the whole au series yesterday. It is really great I love your version 👍
I think “Different Beast” from EPIC would fit perfectly in this AU. I imagine Abel and the Exorcists singing it at some Sinners they’re about to slaughter.
1:30 It's wonderful that Abel gives her the middle finger behind him, after all, he is the victim of the situation because he was killed by Cain (who then changed Cain from executioner to victim), but from Abel's point of view it's normal that he doesn't want her to come to heaven, after all it's was his killer as well as brother
(somewhere) Yax: there are a couple of deviations from the script but this is not critical. Cain has already lost this challenge, which means we are almost done with this stage of my plan. Kanebal: I don't know, boss. I think he still has a chance how not how all the evidence against him is not clear and have a flimsy confirmation Yax: there is a chance but he's afraid to take advantage of it Ved knows what happens if he wins the case
Makes sense in the context of the story. Emily was created for God to make everyone in Heaven happy, and here the overwhelming majority of Heaven's habitants not only know but support the exterminations. If the exterminations make people happy, Emily will support it (not to mention i'm sure she developed a "fondness" for Abel because his tragic death and he was the first human soul in Heaven.)
@@Indie973 I still remember her calling sinners "innocent people". Great example of how being kind-hearted can go hand in hand with naivety and lack of rationality.
Trial of Cain: AU to the AU (this is me having fun with the story you told because I love this so much more than the original HH). Before the trial start: Emily: Tell me, what does the first sinner, first to commit murder and a fallen angel have in common? Vaggie: Emily, I swear. Emily: I'll answer, you all betrayed Abel. Once for Vaggie, twice for father and son. Bravo. Emily walked humming a hymn. Cain: It's taking every fiber in my body not to let her hit me so she feels it ten times worse. Adam: Let it go, she's not our biggest issue at the moment. Sera entered the courtroom a minute later and spotted Emily. Her daughter waves at her, but Sera avoids eye contact as she walked over to Adam and Cain. With Emily's side Emily: Huh, much like Jesus I have a Judas of my own. Abel (annoyed with her): Everytime you talk you make me regret being on the same side as you. Emily (enraged): Well we are! Lute: Ignore her, we've got a bigger issue in front of us. With Cain's side Sera: I brought you two some snacks. Muffins I baked last night. Vaggie... You looking good girl. Vaggie (smiling): You do too, love the dress. Sera (placing a hand on her cheek): Thank you. Now boys are you ready for your trial? Cain (biting down on a muffin top): Freaking no. Adam: I'm on edge, but we got this. It's not like they're going to show millennia worth of evidence of the misdeeds I committed under a curse... Or my son killing my other son. Adam laughed nervously. Sera: We are doing that though. Vaggie: He's in denial and is freaking out. Adam laid his head on the table softly laughing nervously. Cain patted his father's head. Sera: Oh... Um, well I took a trip to... The bad place and Eve is safe there. I put a nice fence around her tree body. She was so grateful that apples dropped from her tree. I used them to make those muffins. Cain and Adam (having already taken bites from the muffins): You what? Sera: Yes and I gave one to Abel. He hasn't eaten it though. Sera turned to Abel and waved at him with a sweet smile on her face. He smiled back and waved with only his middle finger raised. Sera: Huh, wonder why he's showing the sign for a mountain. Vaggie: You sweet sunmer angel. *Vaggie is portrayed differently from what I've been writing in the comment sections of two of your videos. I depicted her as more of a fallen angel who wants to help Cain to get back into heaven herself and help him, but I like this version of her too.
(Yax entered the hall. he was tired. and there was an ax in his hands) Yax: I'm sorry that I'm asking questions before the trial starts. but what kind of creature sneaked into my bar last night, dismantled part of the floor and fenced off my tree? oh and by the way what a bastard sobar yesterday's harvest of apples I emphasize FROM MY APPLE TREE Abel: chill out buddy it was Sera. (Abel threw a muffin at Yax) Abel: by the way, she made muffins from apple trees (Yax is furious now)
(at the Yaks bar. Kanebal and Bes are removing the remains of the fence and branches) Kanebal: It seems to me alone that something like blood is dripping from the branches onto the floor. Imp: just for you. because only you have a festering wound received from Yax Kanebal: no. there's clearly something else here because in the morning, when the boss began to chop branches, I heard a scream. imp: You seem to be going crazy. Kanebal: Or this tree is really special.
@@АлЧ-т5г Eve, tree: I despise that Lucifer kept the pain in my body! It's okay though, at least the branches grow back after being cut... But he made sure I felt pain when they are cut .. I hate him so much. *sigh* I wonder how my babies and first love are doing. Meanwhile at the trial: Sera: All right, the trial will commence in five minutes- Adam: Bathroom! Cain: Yeah, bathroom break! Adam takes Cain flies out of the room, crashing into the ceiling and leaving debris. Abel: Are they pissing in the sky? Emily (snort laughing): They would. Savages. Adam (after taking a bite from the muffin): You know I'm still on partial good terms with my father right? Emily: Oh ... The savage Cain is!
@@OwlQueen375 Yax: He's still a good boy. Believe me, you haven't seen what he does in his hideout when he's alone Emily: It's obviously hard for you to live with a beast like him. Yax: tolerable. I think one of these days they will castrate him so that he will be calmer Yax and Emily (laughs) Yax: I love people who are on the same wavelength as me.
@@АлЧ-т5г Meanwhile in Hell: Lilith: I'm quite surprised that little angel broke in and put a fence around the tree. The moment she found out it was her "bestie" Eve she did something moronic. Lilith laughed. Charlie: Mother there's nothing funny about this! She took apples from the tree! My boy toy already awoken eating those cursed apples. What if she gives them to others like Abel or Adam?! Lucifer: My evil little spawn, are you not in the know? Adam has seemed to awakened from the call I received a few months ago from the Emily child. Charlie: What?! AAAAAH! Lilith smacked Charlie across the face making her giggle. Lilith: It benefits us you buffoon! Abel is left confused why the man who laid salt upon our land is now an ally of the one who ended his life. Although if he ingests one of the apples we're not sure what will happen. Will he realize the monsters in front of him, drive him insane, break his mind? That's what we planned if this day was to come. Lucifer: Don't you love my curses? Lilith: As I love you darling. Charlie: What about the demons Adam has killed for millennias? So many bodies fallen... It was orgasmic at times, but... Explain. Lucifer: Their pathetic imps and lower level demons. Their lives meant nothing to us, but for Adam. It's breaking his mind. We are not sure what will occur at the trial, but... Lucifer turned to Lilith with an evil smile. Lilith: Chaos was never meant to be predictable. Charlie: Hm... Well then I'm going to enjoy this. Back at the trial
If sinners can be redeemed, what is the purpose of hell then? Why would divine judgment send them there if they are aware that they should have a second or third chance? And the victims of sinners who are in heaven have to live knowing that they will now share lives with them? That they have to obligatorily forgive them? Christian pacifism never made sense to me, its confusing bro
The difference is in some works of the Bible which some people do translate differently.There is a place for potential human souls to go if they have the heart to change.And that's called pogatory Or It's called something else But if we're going off this au and the main show To make God not be the one in charge.And having the elder angels , the one in control of creation means that they, can make mistakes and they can be questioned
And what about hell? Does it really exist by chance? Or is it just a human creation and construction that distorts something? A lie repeated a thousand times that they (majority people) take as "truth"? Logic between contradictory ideas: "life after death"? 🙄
(New viewer? Watch the other AU vids on my channel for context.)
+Though not confirmed, it's likely Sera is short for Seraphiel, an angel that appears in the Book of Enoch who has the same role that she does. The -el suffix in an angel’s name denotes God (Elohim). Because Hazbin wants to avoid references to God, this is likely why Sera had her name shortened. In this AU, she just likes to have a shorter name.
+No room for Seth in this short so, the reason is that this nerd literally was too busy prepping flashcards for the trial that he was running late, much to the annoyance of Abel.
+The First Family is all fluent in Hebrew (though that isn't the only reason I include it) and sometimes, it just slips out.
+Adam and Seth are considered part of the Patriarchs. This specific class refers to those that can truly call themselves ‘Fathers of Humanity'. Included are figures such as Abraham, Noah, etc. They aren't at the trial. I don't wanna bloat the cast too much, though assume all biblical characters exist unless I say otherwise. The reason they don't show up is because this whole ordeal is seen as an immediate family affair. Example: Noah has his own opinions about this whole thing but like, he's just gonna vibe in the corner and keep out of that section of the family drama. Think of it like you're trying to eat Thanksgiving turkey in peace but your uncle and your dad start yelling about politics at the end of the table.
+Cain is not considered a Patriarch given his disgraced status. Yes, he did reproduce but still, he is an outcast and not included in the club.
+Abel would have been in the Patriarch club but we know what happened. Sometimes, he suppresses a seething envy/hate towards Seth. He hates that he feels that way and does care about his little brother but it gets to him sometimes.
+The immediate Cainite line are sinners in Hell. A prominent descendant of his that is in Heaven is Naamah (Noah’s wife) and she's very much embarrassed of him. Its like “no no no, keep walking, do NOT make eye contact”
+If I was the show runner, the trial would be a longer ordeal. The Respectless animatic was just one hectic portion of it, this was the beginning of it.
Woo, late night upload. Whatever. But like, I didn't lie. I did release it today lol. If you want to see the animated bit in full screen, the short is on my channel.
Kind of curious what Noah thinks.
@@kathywray9619 i wanna say, maybe pro exterminate? Like, 'if the flood didn't finish you sinners off, then Uncle Abel should finish the job'. Just an idea. Honestly, there were way more better suited biblical characters to be the Exorcist leader than Adam.
@@saffiroReally? I kinda figured he would be pro-redemption since it sounded like he tried really hard to convince other people to help construct his ark so they could be saved, too. Then again, there's probably a divide of pro-exorcism and pro-redemption where the Old and New Testaments split, so that would make sense. Not saying you're wrong--you are the creator of this AU, after all. Just figured that Noah would be rooting for redemption, even if he has to keep his support low profile.
Honestly, I would have to re read that portion of Genesis to get a better idea of what Noah would want. It could go either way in the future. Adam's story is at the very beginning while Noah is later.
I think Cain managing to redeem himself and make it to Heaven would be the single funniest thing. Also, he very much deserves a break.
I really hope that Adam will get furious and fight against council demands and keep fighting for Cain right to try and reach redemption.
OR he comes to a point where he puts his foot down, putting his sons and the angels in line, reminding them that he is the FATHER OF ALL MANKIND and one of the oldest souls in heaven. (Really shaking everyone up a bit by how aggressive and, surprisingly, powerful he really is.)
Other than my HC's, GREAT WORK! I LOVE YOUR ARTSTYLE AND THE SONGS YOU PICK REALLY FITS.
Boy, is it unsettling to see Emmie with a furious expression.
AU or no, still hard to look at the little squeaker as an extermination advocate!
I like more this version because despite being bringer of joy, it doesn't make sense she is so protective of sinners or naive. Her job is bringing happiness but do you make believe all winners in HH got a nice and free trauma life?
No, she should met a lot people who terribile abused/killed.. So she shouldn't be so sympathetic.
I thought this was original audio before reading the description. It fits the scene perfectly.
That final quote at the end... why do I have a feeling God's gonna show up at the end to pull a Book of Job on Emily and Abel, serving them a mad piece of humble pie by reminding them of their own cruel sins and mistakes, leading to their own punishments that can only be undone if Cain and Adam forgive them? Or maybe thats just wishful thinking. Either way, that quote at the end is definitely foreshadowing something related to the antagonists.
Me, who just picked a Bible verse about forgiveness: 🙃. But, I will give you this: you're on to something. Something not fun is going to happen to the shepherd boi.
I don't mean abel doesn't deserve a punishment but in same time God left extermination going on because sinners can't been trusted.
I think God is going to show what's happening to eve and onders to save her
Oh I would LOVE that!
This series is amazing. Keep up the great work .
This should’ve been Hazbin Hotel
@@ironhideschmidtindustries8441 fr this should’ve been hazbin hotel
I like both, ngl
Well done i wish this series had a movie😮
I was a fan of Hazbin Hotel since the pilot dropped on 2019 and was really looking forward to the actual show but I was disappointed by it, RUclips had been recommending me you 'hell is forever' video for almost a week but I usually rewatch old videos and I was recommended your AU part 1 about Cain and I was interested and then just watched the whole au series yesterday. It is really great I love your version 👍
YOOO THIS IS AMAZINGLY DONE OMG. Animation and art is amazing 🎉
I think “Different Beast” from EPIC would fit perfectly in this AU. I imagine Abel and the Exorcists singing it at some Sinners they’re about to slaughter.
1:30 It's wonderful that Abel gives her the middle finger behind him, after all, he is the victim of the situation because he was killed by Cain (who then changed Cain from executioner to victim), but from Abel's point of view it's normal that he doesn't want her to come to heaven, after all it's was his killer as well as brother
this au is cool af ❤❤❤
A New Part I love this so much!
WAIT CAPPRICIO FARCE??? EVILLIOUS CHRONICLES CAPPRICIOUS FARCE??
Next part please
love it
(somewhere)
Yax: there are a couple of deviations from the script but this is not critical. Cain has already lost this challenge, which means we are almost done with this stage of my plan.
Kanebal: I don't know, boss. I think he still has a chance how not how all the evidence against him is not clear and have a flimsy confirmation
Yax: there is a chance but he's afraid to take advantage of it Ved knows what happens if he wins the case
This shows how much potential Vaggie threw away in the main show
Part 2 please
I still find it hard that someone as kindhearted as Emily would enable such unholy tendencies
Makes sense in the context of the story. Emily was created for God to make everyone in Heaven happy, and here the overwhelming majority of Heaven's habitants not only know but support the exterminations. If the exterminations make people happy, Emily will support it (not to mention i'm sure she developed a "fondness" for Abel because his tragic death and he was the first human soul in Heaven.)
@@Indie973 I still remember her calling sinners "innocent people". Great example of how being kind-hearted can go hand in hand with naivety and lack of rationality.
@@maria20203 because murder is still wrong
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Heavenly ^^!
How did Lute lose her arm (AU)
In this Au, Vaggie was going to kill the cannibal boy, but Lute defended him and lost her arm.
Hazbin Hotel is a gnostic show, right? But very good art and original story writing.
Cool job.
Trial of Cain: AU to the AU (this is me having fun with the story you told because I love this so much more than the original HH).
Before the trial start:
Emily: Tell me, what does the first sinner, first to commit murder and a fallen angel have in common?
Vaggie: Emily, I swear.
Emily: I'll answer, you all betrayed Abel. Once for Vaggie, twice for father and son. Bravo.
Emily walked humming a hymn.
Cain: It's taking every fiber in my body not to let her hit me so she feels it ten times worse.
Adam: Let it go, she's not our biggest issue at the moment.
Sera entered the courtroom a minute later and spotted Emily. Her daughter waves at her, but Sera avoids eye contact as she walked over to Adam and Cain.
With Emily's side
Emily: Huh, much like Jesus I have a Judas of my own.
Abel (annoyed with her): Everytime you talk you make me regret being on the same side as you.
Emily (enraged): Well we are!
Lute: Ignore her, we've got a bigger issue in front of us.
With Cain's side
Sera: I brought you two some snacks. Muffins I baked last night. Vaggie... You looking good girl.
Vaggie (smiling): You do too, love the dress.
Sera (placing a hand on her cheek): Thank you. Now boys are you ready for your trial?
Cain (biting down on a muffin top): Freaking no.
Adam: I'm on edge, but we got this. It's not like they're going to show millennia worth of evidence of the misdeeds I committed under a curse... Or my son killing my other son.
Adam laughed nervously.
Sera: We are doing that though.
Vaggie: He's in denial and is freaking out.
Adam laid his head on the table softly laughing nervously. Cain patted his father's head.
Sera: Oh... Um, well I took a trip to... The bad place and Eve is safe there. I put a nice fence around her tree body. She was so grateful that apples dropped from her tree. I used them to make those muffins.
Cain and Adam (having already taken bites from the muffins): You what?
Sera: Yes and I gave one to Abel. He hasn't eaten it though.
Sera turned to Abel and waved at him with a sweet smile on her face. He smiled back and waved with only his middle finger raised.
Sera: Huh, wonder why he's showing the sign for a mountain.
Vaggie: You sweet sunmer angel.
*Vaggie is portrayed differently from what I've been writing in the comment sections of two of your videos. I depicted her as more of a fallen angel who wants to help Cain to get back into heaven herself and help him, but I like this version of her too.
(Yax entered the hall. he was tired. and there was an ax in his hands)
Yax: I'm sorry that I'm asking questions before the trial starts. but what kind of creature sneaked into my bar last night, dismantled part of the floor and fenced off my tree? oh and by the way what a bastard sobar yesterday's harvest of apples I emphasize FROM MY APPLE TREE
Abel: chill out buddy it was Sera.
(Abel threw a muffin at Yax)
Abel: by the way, she made muffins from apple trees
(Yax is furious now)
(at the Yaks bar. Kanebal and Bes are removing the remains of the fence and branches)
Kanebal: It seems to me alone that something like blood is dripping from the branches onto the floor.
Imp: just for you. because only you have a festering wound received from Yax
Kanebal: no. there's clearly something else here because in the morning, when the boss began to chop branches, I heard a scream.
imp: You seem to be going crazy.
Kanebal: Or this tree is really special.
@@АлЧ-т5г Eve, tree: I despise that Lucifer kept the pain in my body! It's okay though, at least the branches grow back after being cut... But he made sure I felt pain when they are cut .. I hate him so much. *sigh* I wonder how my babies and first love are doing.
Meanwhile at the trial:
Sera: All right, the trial will commence in five minutes-
Adam: Bathroom!
Cain: Yeah, bathroom break!
Adam takes Cain flies out of the room, crashing into the ceiling and leaving debris.
Abel: Are they pissing in the sky?
Emily (snort laughing): They would. Savages.
Adam (after taking a bite from the muffin): You know I'm still on partial good terms with my father right?
Emily: Oh ... The savage Cain is!
@@OwlQueen375 Yax: He's still a good boy. Believe me, you haven't seen what he does in his hideout when he's alone
Emily: It's obviously hard for you to live with a beast like him.
Yax: tolerable. I think one of these days they will castrate him so that he will be calmer
Yax and Emily (laughs)
Yax: I love people who are on the same wavelength as me.
@@АлЧ-т5г Meanwhile in Hell:
Lilith: I'm quite surprised that little angel broke in and put a fence around the tree. The moment she found out it was her "bestie" Eve she did something moronic.
Lilith laughed.
Charlie: Mother there's nothing funny about this! She took apples from the tree! My boy toy already awoken eating those cursed apples. What if she gives them to others like Abel or Adam?!
Lucifer: My evil little spawn, are you not in the know? Adam has seemed to awakened from the call I received a few months ago from the Emily child.
Charlie: What?! AAAAAH!
Lilith smacked Charlie across the face making her giggle.
Lilith: It benefits us you buffoon! Abel is left confused why the man who laid salt upon our land is now an ally of the one who ended his life. Although if he ingests one of the apples we're not sure what will happen. Will he realize the monsters in front of him, drive him insane, break his mind? That's what we planned if this day was to come.
Lucifer: Don't you love my curses?
Lilith: As I love you darling.
Charlie: What about the demons Adam has killed for millennias? So many bodies fallen... It was orgasmic at times, but... Explain.
Lucifer: Their pathetic imps and lower level demons. Their lives meant nothing to us, but for Adam. It's breaking his mind. We are not sure what will occur at the trial, but...
Lucifer turned to Lilith with an evil smile.
Lilith: Chaos was never meant to be predictable.
Charlie: Hm... Well then I'm going to enjoy this.
Back at the trial
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So is this a au version of you didn't know?
Are those Hardcore dance beats?
Hoping the comment wont get removed.. cuz it happen with so many over the last couple of days. I'd love to be an official translator
:0 yay! If you have insta or Twitter, my DMs are always open. (Anyone can dm me technically, I don't rly mind either way)
@@saffiro i dont have those lmao but i do have discord if you want
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If sinners can be redeemed, what is the purpose of hell then? Why would divine judgment send them there if they are aware that they should have a second or third chance? And the victims of sinners who are in heaven have to live knowing that they will now share lives with them? That they have to obligatorily forgive them? Christian pacifism never made sense to me, its confusing bro
The difference is in some works of the Bible which some people do translate differently.There is a place for potential human souls to go if they have the heart to change.And that's called pogatory Or It's called something else But if we're going off this au and the main show To make God not be the one in charge.And having the elder angels , the one in control of creation means that they, can make mistakes and they can be questioned
And what about hell? Does it really exist by chance? Or is it just a human creation and construction that distorts something? A lie repeated a thousand times that they (majority people) take as "truth"? Logic between contradictory ideas: "life after death"? 🙄
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