Great demonstration and explanation. And, thank you for not having music, as is the case with other RUclips tutorials. Not having music helps me concentrate on what you are saying.
Man that's what I'm talking about! Why can't everyone in the business, in any business, be as knowledgeable, informative and as considerate as you have demonstrated in this video. Claude I wish you were doing business in N.C.
I didn’t know the left side was always for the hot side. I’m new to plumbing. I guess you can tell by my comment. Thanks for the knowledge. Great video. If looking to upgrade my old laundry outlets to a more modern laundry box.
Great video. I've been researching how this kit is installed. I have to have one put in my home, I believe my house is than when the boxes started being used.
I try to take eveyone back to when I was learning all about plumbing and the hunger I had to learn and all the things I would ask and wanted to know and see. I tried to give everyone front row set. Thank you for the encouragement. 👍
nice video im a electrician on a construction site n i work alongside with the plumber n thats all they use new construction. also look like those outlets need to b upgraded
I am just now repairing a damaged wall where the cheaply made washer outlet box allowed the water from leaky valves to drip into the wall cavity. The flimsy snap-in plastic pieces that the valves attach to have O-rings but don't come close to sealing water-tight, so water leaking from the valves dripped into the wall behind the drywall below over years (with no evidence looking at the valves themselves every day!) causing some expensive damage. Having lived through that, if I were installing in the situation here I would have run the supply lines over the top of the box and hanging down into the box, with the drain on the bottom. Any valve leakage would then end up in the drain, and more importantly be clearly visible when it started.
That was great, just about the time I was going to gripe about how the galvanized was scary flexing, at 1:00 you beat me to the punch by getting rid of it!
excellent job I would love to do that upgrade to my laundry section but I would have to break out a whole section of stucco nice work thank u for sharing!!!!
I still prefer ABS pipe, it's still used quite heavily in the Northeast. It's slightly more forgiving in freeze ups, can expand a tad more than PVC and doesn't shatter if it breaks. However, it is cellular so when you glue it you MUST run the glue around the cut edge to keep water from ingress into the cellular structure. Also, no primer needed!
@@theartofplumbing Yes, that's another reason we use it - one step process. I use Oatey's Medium black ABS cement. The most important is to run that glue around any cut edges before inserting into the fitting. www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-ABS-Cement-in-Black-308893/100345366
I figured u kept the flame small and were very careful, but that’s the part I want to see, not just the easy stuff. I saw ur full pex install with the shower valve. I’m about to do it. Love the egg shaping copper advice too. Thanks
I am doing this same thing this weekend and we are using pex to replace all the copper. We too have abs drain lines in the wall and I was wondering how to connect it to the new box. Great video. I was told by a plumber that we needed to add a p trap to the drain line to prevent potential odors from coming into the laundry. Our old line didn't have one but I do have room to add one. Would you recommend adding one to the drain line?
Yes I would deffenetly recommend a p-trap, but first check to make sure that there's not one under the ground floor or next floor below you may not see. If you look into the drain and see water at the bottom you have a trap. Don't double trap. 😉
@@theartofplumbing Thanks for the reply. No other trap. Ground floor and drain runs under floor to kitchen then to main drain out. We had to put in new floors after last hurricane so we expanded adjacent laundry room by 18 inches.
Really nice video and nice workmanship. I live in the SF Bay Area so this job would have been several hundred dollars to more than $1000. Plumbers typically do this job here only when the owner is selling a house, because the house will end up selling for many thousands of dollars more. Was this house also getting ready to be sold?
Thank you for your support. Yes, the house in this video did go up for sale. It was totally flooded out and had to be rebuild. Turn out really nice. a bunch of great guys worked together on it. The G.C. Know her stuff again thank you :-)
I am not a plumber; however, I have re-piped several houses (going from galvanized to copper, Type L). Do you use L or M? Also, why did you choose to install two single values rather than one value that has one lever that turns on & off the water?
Great video! You do know that pex would have made your job sooo much easier. I've seen your other vids using Aquapex so I know you have the expander so why wouldn't this be a great use for it? They even make boxes with the propex fittings attached so all you would need is a female to pex coupling for the galvanized and you're set.
yep your right, but this wasn't my idea. it was a request from the home owner. but I do thing it made good for a video. May be on the next one. thank you for the great question and bringing that up.
hello,I have a plumbing question I had a company detect a leak, it's the main line that goes to my waterheater. I trenched from main towards waterheater outside of house. what's the easiest way to find the main manifold to cut and tie into the cold water line?
+How to Plumbing thank you so much for replying yes I have pictures but I also have another question that arise will I be able to tie in to the main line through the water faucet speaking that's outside in the backyard it's close by about 4 feet away
+Elohim Productions someone had mentioned to me that I can go through the wall outside and tie into the water faucet because it it feeds from the main and I would just need to put an adapter there and connected main line that I'm running and I'd still be able to use the water faucet is well that's outside for the water hose
Yes that's true, but I wouldn't do it .the size of the outside faucet line is only 1/2 inch you need at least 3/4 to 1" then break it down. If you tie into the outside faucet you may loss water pressure thru out the house.
Only thing I seen wrong is, the next time a valve needs replaced you have to cut out that drywall again. Should never solider valves, and threaded adapter to valve should come up through the box so valve can be taken off without tearing out the wall.
I understand why you would think that, yes you would have to cut into the drywall but trust me after doing many as I have. You will find you will have to go into the wall anyway. They really don't unscrew out that easy. First you have to get to the mounting washer to break faucet free and that's under the box in the wall.
Actually, that's a practical "solution" ; }@@theartofplumbing SERIOUS question for you: I have a piggyback washer dryer. It's old, so when the washer had a problem I bought a newpiggyback to replace it. The guys from Lowe's arrived, and i was told that I'f have to have a plumber come in to update the water connections. I had them return the new unit to Lowes, and replaced the water pump myself. So the question is, why are my 1984 washing machine box valves not good theses days? The fittings don't look much different than what I see in your video. Also this - if there is a difference, aren't there simple adapters available? MANY thanks!
Yea I heard that my self. Sorry but I'm not sure. I hardly ever run into ABS (Black Plastic Pipe) When I do. this the results. thank you for the comment.
It's not recommended, since transition cement is only permitted (in some locations) where the house DWV pipe joins the house sewer outside the footing. Use a shielded No-Hub coupler to complete the joint, flexible all-rubber ones are not allowed above ground...
Thanks for your video. I have a question. Is it possible to use an AAV to vent washer at least for 4 months? we are moving our laundry to the main floor in an older home but we are already in winter. This is Canada and it is impossible to vent to the roof right now.
leydyhh . I'm not sure what a AAV vent is, We may use a different terminology. I'm thinking of a mechanical vent. like the ones they use on mobile homes. I'm not sure of the codes in Canada, but I can't see a problem with using a mechanical vent for a short time. one thing to keep in mind. a Mechanical work with spring action and that spring can get stuck and you will have a close vent or a open vent. And if you install it the attic it could cause frost closure or form ice sicicle in your attic from sewer exhauste.
How to Plumbing. thanks for your reply. I believe we are talking about the same vent. We are installing the new laundry in a new closet on the main floor. I just dont want to end up with a flood but we still need to do this installation without venting to the roof for now. it's just impossible. The washer will actually drain into an utility sink in the basement but the sink is not right under the new laudry but about 10 feet across. The drain will be 2". Can we install a short vent just about 3 feet above the p trap in the mean time until we can run the proper vent to the roof? thanks
Isn't one of plumbing code say never ever put any unions inside a wall. What happens if you get a drip for months and don't know it. Now you have mold building up inside a wall.................
okay so when i turned on the main water line to the house i just moved in water was shooting out of the faucets in the washer and dryer room so we turned the knobs to the water line and the hot water closed up and the cold water did not we turned the knob but it is loose and the water continues to shoot out so we cannot turn our main water line on until we solve this issue do you have any suggestion what might this be or how i could fix the issue? the washer hookup valve knobs are just like the ones in this video they turn left and right to turn on or shut off. Thank you
Sounds like a bad cute off. What you could do for me now until you repair or replace valve. You can buy a holes cap and screw it to the cold side were the cold water hose hook up to. Check out link. express.google.com/u/0/product/18112281375174981550_18442922248969791119_1183006?gtim=CIOMhOOUz7eTqwEQx7PRtrGWqaE7GLD9yAIiA1VTRCigk6vhBTCemkg&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxs3gBRDGARIsAO4tqq1852w2BzxhChsInllQkI7OOwmZno4kDxMXWwtlvqFkM3O5-SrJHJ4aAvNkEALw_wcB
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier and safer in my opinion to thread into the galv. Pipe a fitting to convert to PEX and then run pex to the new valves? No problems with different types of metals and cheaper materials, easier to work with? Not saying this was done bad I think u did a fantastic job. And I get it some people don't like pex and prefer copper
Your right it would have been cheaper and easier, but I like to give people options. And I do have a video like you mention. Great comment thank you. ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html
Your right it would have been a lot faster and cheaper, but I do like the idea of doing this in all kinds of ways giving people options. I also have a video doing it the way your mention. Upgrading laundry box using led pipe ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html
Excellent video! You did a very meticulous and detailed job performing the tasks and explaining it to us. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Dielectric unions are a no no in the wall
Who says?
Great demonstration and explanation. And, thank you for not having music, as is the case with other RUclips tutorials. Not having music helps me concentrate on what you are saying.
Awesome. I appreciate you👍👍
Man that's what I'm talking about! Why can't everyone in the business, in any business, be as knowledgeable, informative and as considerate as you have demonstrated in this video. Claude I wish you were doing business in N.C.
Thank you my friend. I appreciate your kind comment.
I didn’t know the left side was always for the hot side. I’m new to plumbing. I guess you can tell by my comment. Thanks for the knowledge. Great video. If looking to upgrade my old laundry outlets to a more modern laundry box.
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I like your commitment to copper pipes and how thoroughly you solder them.
Thank you. I appreciate you.
Thanksnantonnfornthe video. I'm doing exactly this job today for the first time.
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Amazing work.
Thank you I appreciate you.👍
Great video. I've been researching how this kit is installed. I have to have one put in my home, I believe my house is than when the boxes started being used.
Thank you. This is a nice laundry box
Your clear explanation made me feel like I was there with you asking questions. You talked about what most of us would want to know and why.
Thanks.
I try to take eveyone back to when I was learning all about plumbing and the hunger I had to learn and all the things I would ask and wanted to know and see. I tried to give everyone front row set. Thank you for the encouragement. 👍
Omg! Thanks just what I was looking for! That is sooo much better and neater
Glad I could help. I appreciate you comment
I love how you explained everything you did and offered other ideas also. Excellent tutorial!
Robin Turner Thank you so much. Your kind comment means a lot. I am humbled.
nice video im a electrician on a construction site n i work alongside with the plumber n thats all they use new construction. also look like those outlets need to b upgraded
panama1965 Thank you. Your comment is very apprisiated. Lol and yes the electrical box does need to be up graded. 😉
Your video was perfect. Nice work
Thank you I appreciate you😉
Great job, very neat.
Steve Foley Thank you
that cutting tool is awesome!!!! pricey I bet....
I am just now repairing a damaged wall where the cheaply made washer outlet box allowed the water from leaky valves to drip into the wall cavity. The flimsy snap-in plastic pieces that the valves attach to have O-rings but don't come close to sealing water-tight, so water leaking from the valves dripped into the wall behind the drywall below over years (with no evidence looking at the valves themselves every day!) causing some expensive damage. Having lived through that, if I were installing in the situation here I would have run the supply lines over the top of the box and hanging down into the box, with the drain on the bottom. Any valve leakage would then end up in the drain, and more importantly be clearly visible when it started.
Good idea 💡👍
That was great, just about the time I was going to gripe about how the galvanized was scary flexing, at 1:00 you beat me to the punch by getting rid of it!
excellent job I would love to do that upgrade to my laundry section but I would have to break out a whole section of stucco nice work thank u for sharing!!!!
You got it thanks for watching
Nice job
Thank you appreciate you.👍
Test for leaks?
Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge you rock Mr Taylor you are amazing plumber I watch all your videos
Thank you my friend. But no you rock 😉
Enjoyed your video. Very professional work.
Kenn P Thank you
I still prefer ABS pipe, it's still used quite heavily in the Northeast. It's slightly more forgiving in freeze ups, can expand a tad more than PVC and doesn't shatter if it breaks. However, it is cellular so when you glue it you MUST run the glue around the cut edge to keep water from ingress into the cellular structure. Also, no primer needed!
Good to no. I didn't know you didn't have to use primer on ABS. I always live in areas that didn't use ABS pipe. Thank you for the tip.
@@theartofplumbing Yes, that's another reason we use it - one step process. I use Oatey's Medium black ABS cement. The most important is to run that glue around any cut edges before inserting into the fitting. www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-ABS-Cement-in-Black-308893/100345366
Wow Claud what a great video
Keith Worrell Thank you.
wonderfull vid. i love it iam a plumber and allways we learn something new. gracias amigo
Homero OO apprisiat the kind comment. Happy New Years.
Thanks for the video it was very helpful.
SEVENMILE glade I could help
Great video, but I wanted to see how you soldered the last two copper pipes. They were in such close quarters, how did you not burn the ABS pipe?
Sorry, what I did was solder the copper connection on a table out in the open first, because your right that was a very tight area to solder in.
Oh I see. Very carefully. Keep close eye on the flam
I figured u kept the flame small and were very careful, but that’s the part I want to see, not just the easy stuff. I saw ur full pex install with the shower valve. I’m about to do it. Love the egg shaping copper advice too. Thanks
I am doing this same thing this weekend and we are using pex to replace all the copper. We too have abs drain lines in the wall and I was wondering how to connect it to the new box. Great video. I was told by a plumber that we needed to add a p trap to the drain line to prevent potential odors from coming into the laundry. Our old line didn't have one but I do have room to add one. Would you recommend adding one to the drain line?
Yes I would deffenetly recommend a p-trap, but first check to make sure that there's not one under the ground floor or next floor below you may not see. If you look into the drain and see water at the bottom you have a trap. Don't double trap. 😉
Oh pure water down drain incase trap is dry out🤔
@@theartofplumbing Thanks for the reply. No other trap. Ground floor and drain runs under floor to kitchen then to main drain out. We had to put in new floors after last hurricane so we expanded adjacent laundry room by 18 inches.
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Thanks for the video exactly the same problem i was having you just saved me $350 dollars 😊
Saving every one money, That's what its all about. Thank you for the comment
Dielectric unions are a no no in the wall
Another great video and nice neat job too
Thank you
Really nice video and nice workmanship. I live in the SF Bay Area so this job would have been several hundred dollars to more than $1000. Plumbers typically do this job here only when the owner is selling a house, because the house will end up selling for many thousands of dollars more. Was this house also getting ready to be sold?
Thank you for your support. Yes, the house in this video did go up for sale. It was totally flooded out and had to be rebuild. Turn out really nice. a bunch of great guys worked together on it. The G.C. Know her stuff again thank you :-)
Here in California dialectric unions are not permitted behind a closed wall, as shone here.
Thats the reason I don’t call a union plumber
I am not a plumber; however, I have re-piped several houses (going from galvanized to copper, Type L). Do you use L or M? Also, why did you choose to install two single values rather than one value that has one lever that turns on & off the water?
Better question is, why didn’t he install those two valves “upside down”. And pipe the water lines directly into it from the top.?…
Great video and great job..
Richard Marte Thank you for kind comment
Great video! You do know that pex would have made your job sooo much easier. I've seen your other vids using Aquapex so I know you have the expander so why wouldn't this be a great use for it? They even make boxes with the propex fittings attached so all you would need is a female to pex coupling for the galvanized and you're set.
yep your right, but this wasn't my idea. it was a request from the home owner. but I do thing it made good for a video. May be on the next one. thank you for the great question and bringing that up.
It was a great video and I really appreciate you spending the time to explain the why's along with the how to's.
Looks fun
It Can be :-) thanks
Thanks dear..
Isnt that mapp gas you used to solder?
hello,I have a plumbing question I had a company detect a leak, it's the main line that goes to my waterheater. I trenched from main towards waterheater outside of house. what's the easiest way to find the main manifold to cut and tie into the cold water line?
sounds like you have a loop system. do you have any photos you could send me. plumberx1@gmail.com
+How to Plumbing thank you so much for replying yes I have pictures but I also have another question that arise will I be able to tie in to the main line through the water faucet speaking that's outside in the backyard it's close by about 4 feet away
+Elohim Productions someone had mentioned to me that I can go through the wall outside and tie into the water faucet because it it feeds from the main and I would just need to put an adapter there and connected main line that I'm running and I'd still be able to use the water faucet is well that's outside for the water hose
Yes that's true, but I wouldn't do it .the size of the outside faucet line is only 1/2 inch you need at least 3/4 to 1" then break it down. If you tie into the outside faucet you may loss water pressure thru out the house.
But know if you have a 3/4 inside next to the outside faucet yes
Very nice.
Where is the bent for that?
How much the cost for this operation?
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What's up Claude, I will get around to call you i hope soon......working hard as ever...take care.
love that Milwaukee I gotta upgrade I have them rigid brand there ok but see every one using Milwaukee now days!!!!
+jimbola77 Milwaukee just makes it easy to adapt to all there tools. They just came out with a nice hand held drain mashine. Light and easy to use.
Only thing I seen wrong is, the next time a valve needs replaced you have to cut out that drywall again. Should never solider valves, and threaded adapter to valve should come up through the box so valve can be taken off without tearing out the wall.
I understand why you would think that, yes you would have to cut into the drywall but trust me after doing many as I have. You will find you will have to go into the wall anyway. They really don't unscrew out that easy. First you have to get to the mounting washer to break faucet free and that's under the box in the wall.
That copper cutter is killer
love that true blue where can I find it?????
+jimbola77 I got that from The Home Dept
If you mix up what is the cold and left sides, just swap the handles ; )
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Actually, that's a practical "solution" ; }@@theartofplumbing SERIOUS question for you: I have a piggyback washer dryer. It's old, so when the washer had a problem I bought a newpiggyback to replace it. The guys from Lowe's arrived, and i was told that I'f have to have a plumber come in to update the water connections. I had them return the new unit to Lowes, and replaced the water pump myself. So the question is, why are my 1984 washing machine box valves not good theses days? The fittings don't look much different than what I see in your video. Also this - if there is a difference, aren't there simple adapters available?
MANY thanks!
Can you glue the black pipe and pvc, I thought they make a special glue that will do both?
Yea I heard that my self. Sorry but I'm not sure. I hardly ever run into ABS (Black Plastic Pipe) When I do. this the results. thank you for the comment.
www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-16-oz-ABS-Transition-Cement-30925/100200776?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CTHD%7CG%7C0%7CG-VF-PLA-D26P-Plumbing%7C&gclid=CjwKEAjwmMS-BRCm5
+Hever Morales Wow they do make glue for that. thank you.
Thank you for posting those videos which are really helpful !
It's not recommended, since transition cement is only permitted (in some locations) where the house DWV pipe joins the house sewer outside the footing. Use a shielded No-Hub coupler to complete the joint, flexible all-rubber ones are not allowed above ground...
Why didn't you use pex?
Because copper is king.
Thanks for your video. I have a question. Is it possible to use an AAV to vent washer at least for 4 months? we are moving our laundry to the main floor in an older home but we are already in winter. This is Canada and it is impossible to vent to the roof right now.
leydyhh . I'm not sure what a AAV vent is, We may use a different terminology. I'm thinking of a mechanical vent. like the ones they use on mobile homes. I'm not sure of the codes in Canada, but I can't see a problem with using a mechanical vent for a short time. one thing to keep in mind. a Mechanical work with spring action and that spring can get stuck and you will have a close vent or a open vent. And if you install it the attic it could cause frost closure or form ice sicicle in your attic from sewer exhauste.
How to Plumbing. thanks for your reply. I believe we are talking about the same vent. We are installing the new laundry in a new closet on the main floor. I just dont want to end up with a flood but we still need to do this installation without venting to the roof for now. it's just impossible. The washer will actually drain into an utility sink in the basement but the sink is not right under the new laudry but about 10 feet across. The drain will be 2". Can we install a short vent just about 3 feet above the p trap in the mean time until we can run the proper vent to the roof? thanks
leydyhh I don't see a problem with it if its temp.
How to Plumbing thanks
Isn't one of plumbing code say never ever put any unions inside a wall. What happens if you get a drip for months and don't know it. Now you have mold building up inside a wall.................
okay so when i turned on the main water line to the house i just moved in water was shooting out of the faucets in the washer and dryer room so we turned the knobs to the water line and the hot water closed up and the cold water did not we turned the knob but it is loose and the water continues to shoot out so we cannot turn our main water line on until we solve this issue do you have any suggestion what might this be or how i could fix the issue? the washer hookup valve knobs are just like the ones in this video they turn left and right to turn on or shut off. Thank you
Please help!
Sounds like a bad cute off. What you could do for me now until you repair or replace valve. You can buy a holes cap and screw it to the cold side were the cold water hose hook up to. Check out link. express.google.com/u/0/product/18112281375174981550_18442922248969791119_1183006?gtim=CIOMhOOUz7eTqwEQx7PRtrGWqaE7GLD9yAIiA1VTRCigk6vhBTCemkg&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxs3gBRDGARIsAO4tqq1852w2BzxhChsInllQkI7OOwmZno4kDxMXWwtlvqFkM3O5-SrJHJ4aAvNkEALw_wcB
What is the average charge for something like this?
If you have to ask...
ABS is used over PVC up here in Nova Scotia Canada. it's cheaper.
Joshua Boulard yeah ABS is hard to come by here. i dont know any place that carries it.
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier and safer in my opinion to thread into the galv. Pipe a fitting to convert to PEX and then run pex to the new valves? No problems with different types of metals and cheaper materials, easier to work with? Not saying this was done bad I think u did a fantastic job. And I get it some people don't like pex and prefer copper
Your right it would have been cheaper and easier, but I like to give people options. And I do have a video like you mention. Great comment thank you. ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html
Your right it would have been a lot faster and cheaper, but I do like the idea of doing this in all kinds of ways giving people options. I also have a video doing it the way your mention. Upgrading laundry box using led pipe ruclips.net/video/2wUuu7xEDzA/видео.html
man that's was a tough one
It was :-)
Rotate box 90 degrees CC. Much easier, cleaner install.
The drain wouldn't have fit the box.
Very good tutorial! Videography could be better!
Yeah working on that. Thank you🤓
That's mapp gas not propane
Copper is too expensive to drop in the wall
Man use propress
I do. On my commercial jobs. I would love to have my own propress tool.