318 LA V8 vs 225 slant 6 60 foot 0 to 60 mph 1/8 mile 1000ft 1/4 mile Drag Race
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- 318 La v8 vs 225 slant 6 60 foot 0 to 60 mph 1/8 mile 1000 foot and 1/4 mile head to race. Also taking a look at the original 331 hemi the forgotten poly / polysphere or semi hemi fire ball and Magnum variations. Dodge Red Ram, DeSoto FireDome and Chrysler FirePower. And the lost to time Plymouth HyFire. with the engine package of 331 260 301 354 392 276 291 330 341 345 241 270 315 325 277 301 303 313 318. As well as looking at the original inline platforms with Spyker T head engine, Napier L48 Sampson, Frank Lockhart straight 8 cylinder supercharged, white triplex v36 81 liter triple aero engine, the golden arrow and their debuted at Daytona Beach for the Top speed runs with their huge w and v airplane engines. Taking a look at The Fabulous Hudson Hornet, with the Fabled Twin H Power flat head 6 engine, step down floor, recessed floor, with Marshall Teague Herb Thomas and Smokey Yunick in Nascar against the flathead v8 Oldsmobile Rocket 8. With the incredible win streak 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954. Also looking at Simca Volkswagen, Volvo Toyota, Studebaker, Morris, Chevrolet, Ford, and AMC. The introduction of the 170 198 and 225 slant six and Chrysler new compact Valiant ditching the old 230 flat head 6. 30 degree from center engine block, Offenhauser, hyper pak to debut at the Nascar 1960 Compact series Daytona 500 event. Special internals like Dome top high compression pistons, hot camshaft, custom AFB competition carburetor, split exhaust header / manifold, and the eye grabing 21 inch long hyperpak aluminum intake for incredible volumetric efficiency wide torque curve and formidable fuel efficiency. Lateral offset or side mount water pump for lower body and hood lines. Against Ford new Y block configuration. As well as the Plymouth Feather Duster that weighed 2700 pounds and got 36 miles per gallon. With pioneers like Jack Clifford and later Doug Dutra aka Doctor Dodge, made the slant six into the symbol legend it is today. With Slantsix.org slant six forum Clifford Performance and Aussiespeed Performance. The names grew with Slant Sickness Buzzing Half Dozen Big thrill six chill. Please like subscribe share and hit the bell icon. As well as my Instagram ATF_Garage... Thanks for watching
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I really appreciated learning the history behind both engines. I am particularly impressed by the brilliance of the slant six design. That fundamental architecture gave the engine so many long term advantages its amazing. The 318 is a tribute to a fundamentally sound design honed by years of continuous improvement. Great video.
That’s exactly the point I was trying to convey. It’s not about one being better than the other, it’s about appreciating the history and engineering of these legends. Thank you so much for the support! It’s not only very much appreciated but also keeps me going 👍.
@@atfgarage9459 Hi. I still love my 72 Duster. I got it when I was 15, but it had to sit for a year till I turned 16. My grandfather bought it first. He liked the red color :) , after he died, my brother bought it off my grandma, he got bored of it so I bought it off of him. When I got it , it had 54000 original miles. Now it has 74000 original miles. Its all original except for the paint and that I had to get new seat covers put on. The original was white and black hounds tooth inserts and the rest was black vinyl. I got them recovered with the same hounds tooth. Oh, and its a 225ci. Motor has never been touched. Great video
Awesome! I learned more than I ever expected to. Thanks and here's to hoping you hit that 1000 mark real soon. And beyond.
excellent video. The slant six is one of the best engines in history, in Argentina the Dodge polara RT "national invention 😎" equipped the Slant six 225 and produced 174 hp and a maximum speed of 180 km / h or 111 miles but when the slant six was prepared for road tourism produced more than 250 hp and top speeds of 270 km / h or 167 miles, surpassing all its competitors, simply the best engine
Than you, I really appreciate the support. I completely agree. The slant six is absolutely one of the best design engines ever engineered. I have some big plans to showcase for both of these vehicles.
@@atfgarage9459 It's good that you're going to keep showing those cars. Here I leave you a link so you can see our cars😎. excellent channel
ruclips.net/video/9ybwVzdzeQQ/видео.html (Dodge Polara RT Slant Six)
ruclips.net/video/HFLBWO8VLSw/видео.html (Dodge Coronado)
ruclips.net/video/LrndmCWAl_4/видео.html (Dodge GTX V8)
did up a 225 slant in a 69 Dart back in the 70's, punched, shaved a bit, offy intake with a 465 holly, viper headers, electronic ignition, 4speed, bell housing from an early Dart with the hyper-pac, big boy rear end from a Duster 340, went like hell at 19 mpg, today it boasts a 440, whatever
That build sounds awesome. Nothing crazy, just some tried and true power adders and some stronger than weak links. You don’t see many manual transmission muscle cars anymore. It’s a shame, there’s nothing like running through gears while flying down the road.
I bought a '78 Plymouth Fury Sport 2dr. When I turned 16. It has Super six on breather. ( 2 barrel carb) I drove that for years like Bo Duke drove the General Lee. Literally, trust me...jumps and all. I loved that car and always kept up with my buddies 318 pickup , and my other buddies 305 HO..pickup...the 3 of us had some good times on the old Broughton road..( remote gravel road, ) I would still buy that engine today. Maybe in a lighter car than the ol' Fury Sport. 😎👍
That’s an amazing story. Sounds like a ton of fun! Yeah that slant six surprises a lot of people as they DON’T leave you in the dust. I would definitely recommend trying to buy one again before they are all gone. Pieces of history that we can drive around, never gets old. Thanks for the support, brings a smile to my face knowing that we can all connect through stories like these.
Yeaaaah. 1978 Plymouth Fury are great !!
Keep them coming
I have been lucky to have owned a slant 6, a 318, and a 426 hemi, to me they are three of the best engines ever made.
Wow that’s pretty awesome. I’ve never even been in a car with a 426. Must have been an absolute handful.
@@Future-Preps35 how did you like that 392? I’ve heard some great stories about it.
Cool video! Great info and history looking forward to the next video
Thanks for a nice video. The slant is a underrated engine!
I am building a highcomp slant for my Dodge Diplomat now. Cant wait to try it on the streets.
A very thorough and well put together video, thanks!
Thank you, I really appreciate the support. 👍
Well done. I had a 170 slant in a 63 Dodge Dart. it was a fabulous first car. Wonderful video, especially about the sonic aspect of the slant. I read about it somewhere else.
That 170 slant in my opinion is easily top 5 engines of all time. What those engineers accomplished some 60 years ago is unbelievable. Driving that Dart must have been an awesome experience. Hopefully one day I can find one and make a series on it. I’m glad you liked the video, stuff like this keeps me going on this channel. Thanks for the support.
Awesome video! Chrysler's humble "Slant Six" has a well-deserved alternative name "Leaning Tower of Power". All that said, a V8 still sounds better than a L6 or V6.
I completely agree. As much as I love the underdog taking a win, few things sound better than a well tuned v8.
Everyone was aware of offsetting the pistons for more power, but NASCAR banned the practice. Smoky Yunick obtained a raw block and offset the crankshaft instead of the pistons. He never got caught with this type of "cheating", and his cars tore up the competition.
I wish you guys touched on the 265 hemi down here in australia, equiped with like 10:1 comp and triple webbers, sounded incredible and if it werent for how poorly their suspension was setup they would have dominated in the bathurst racing series we have over here. Some examples can happily see over 400hp+ with little work done
Artfully done !
Liked the end, where you analyzed and explained the relative performance with respect to their two very different designs.
Thank you very much. I realized early on that many people didn’t understand what was actually happening and why sometimes the lower horsepower engine would keep up or even pass the larger. So I figured why not break it down and show the technical side. I’m really glad you liked it. I Appreciate your support.
My first car was a 1973 Plymouth duster. Affordable platform to do basically anything with.
Most definitely! Chrysler hit the nail on the head when they created the Duster. The ultimate, under the radar, muscle car.
My first car was a '73 Dart Sport 225/6/3AT. I actually managed to blow up three sixes before dropping a 360 into it. With each grenade, we rebuilt it with more upgrades. Ended with the head milled .100, Comp Cam SK64-241, 390CFM 4bl Holly with an Offenhauser intake, 3x2 Hooker headers to dual 2 1/4 exhausts and 3.21 8 1/4 rear axle. Also upgraded to front discs and front and rear sway bars. Fun car. Still have it in my garage and just waiting for the kids to move out before I have time & money to bring it out of storage.
For those interested, the first grenade was caused by the journals starving for oil after 5 minutes at 120mph (I was 17). Blew the #5 rod out the side of the block. The second grenade was caused by a weak oil pump gear shearing off under load. Full oil pressure to no oil pressure with no warning. The third was caused by a machine shop error, not noticing a faulty piston pin journal when pressing the pin. That pin walked out the side of the piston and bored through the cylinder wall within 500 miles. I still miss my hopped up /6. It was definitely a conversation piece at events.
@@weshenriksen2481 I bet it took a while to make it to 120 mph! I remember hitting 60 and being happy
I hope you get to 1000 soon.I also want to tell you I do not know what youtube is doing but I have seen commericals ads on chanels with way less that a 1000 subs.I also don;t know if they are being monetized.Heck I even seen an ad on my over 700 videos and they did not ask me or pay me yet. I don;t like how youtube runs things its unfair..Great informative video thanks
Yeah it’s very unfair in my opinion. I don’t know when they started that whole “you have to get 1k subscribers” rule. Especially if they are getting money the entire time. But it seems almost all social media platforms are doing questionable practices these days.
@@atfgarage9459 You bet they are wrong to treat us creators this way,Take care there
I really enjoyed hearing the history parts along with the whole video , good job with this video ....MOPAR !!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the support. Mopar or No Car 👍!
I have a slant 6 ready to drop into my truck. 9.5 compression ,custom ground cam that is close to the original hyerpack, dutra split exhaust and Aussie speed long tube hurricane intake with a 500 cfm holley 2 barrel carb. Take a 318 and put a ISKY E4 solid grind cam in it- it will have the torque of a 400 and mine would bounce off of 7,000 rpm regularly ( my stock 318 ran 6,000 all the time )
Great video, just subbed
Cool bro this is a cool video very informative
Repeating some earlier comments, Australian designed and manufactured the most powerful factory Chrysler 6 cylinder engines ever made, 303 hp 265 cu hemi inline 6 cylinder with 3 45 DCOE Weber carburettors, available strait from our local dealers capable of 14.4 second quarter mile.
Here in Australia, we got the 225 slanty in our valiants, in the big pacer you could get a twin barrel 225 that make about 180hp before you went and got yourself a hemi 6, totally different to the 225 a partsbin throwaway from the Americans.
The hemi is known here for being a powerhouse, in factory form you could get a 300 horse 265 cubic inch 6 with tripple Webers!!
When it comes to Holden in their small torana race cars with the small (in comparison) 202 cubic inch 6 could be optioned with tripple su carbs in a light hatchback, in racing form it was believed this little 6 was making over 250hp and was smashing full sized falcons with 351 CLEVELANDS.
Goes to show us Aussies can build a 6 Cylinder back then and still can now with the Ford barra being an evolution of the old Ford mileage maker 6 Cylinder from the 60s only with a huge block and dohc, horse power potential is limitless with up to 1000 if not more on the stock bottom end!!
You are 100% correct. Australia has some of the best 6 and 8 cylinder engines ever made. Cosworth alone changed the game forever. But I think the 170 slant showed what Chrysler “could do” if given free rein in building a performance engine. That 2.7 liter inline six produced 200 + horsepower. I think that’s pretty awesome as well.
@@atfgarage9459 Definitely, Chrysler was the first to offer a v8 here in the ap6 valiant before the rest of everyone else.
If you want some interesting reading look up the supercar scare of Australia. Big 120mph possible cars where being designed like the phase 4 falcon or the Holden xu2 which was going to be a small sub 1200kg hatchback with a 350hp 308 cubic inch home made v8. Imagine that!!
@@darcyw8995 wth… seriously??? 1200kg 350hp, that’s not a car, that’s a rocket with wheels lol. That’s pretty incredible. It would be awesome to try to mimic it. I would love to see one!
@@atfgarage9459 you can see why the government shut it all down and by 76 new emissions loses came in making this idea redundant as power levels shot down.
We didn't get big cube v8s like you guys did but still, nothing like the Aussie designed engines, even the Cleveland v8 was made here into the early 80s as a 302 (you blokes didn't get these in america) and 351 cube, when Ford dropped the v8 from the falcon these left over blocks from Australian foundrys were sold to detomaso for the pantera!
@@darcyw8995 one of my neighbors has a Pantera. Absolutely amazing, and runs like a beast. Yeah smog restrictions didn’t do the automotive industry any favors. Took some 10 years for power to start to show up again, in the states.
Interesting vid. I did some experimenting back in the late '60s and 70s with very similar results. '64 Valiant with 225, high comp head and 4bbl carb turned 17.76 in the 1/4 at 76+ mph. Had two track records at Lakeland International in Memphis. A couple of years later my 73 Dart with 318 2bbl turned 17.67 at 73 mph. The Dart would have beat the Valiant, but the Valiant would be closing the gap quickly. Some of the most fun I've ever had behind the wheel. Used to drive the big Ford 352s crazy with the Valiant. A real sleeper. God I miss that car! Still have the Dart which now wears the Carter AVS which I had on the Slant Six.
That’s pretty awesome! I love hearing stories like this. Seems many people have a plethora of different experiences with the 318. But from most of my experiences this is very par for the course, for the most part.
265 Hemi straight six with triple Weber would destroy them both an Aussie car.
Absolutely! That 265 hemi is an absolute monster. A real legend in the racing community. Australia has always been one of the king’s in my opinion. Just Cosworth alone changed the entire race game! Can’t be denied.
I feel you should find one of the tens of thousands aluminum-block "towers"{...of Power} in 225 cu" form, then cut-up and weld together a 6-cyl. manifold & head from two 2nd-gen. Hemi V-8 heads to make ONE 6-cylinder Hemi-alloy head, which will be cross-flow, so the exhaust-header can be a straight down dump from the slant, --3 exhaust pipes per cat, & true "dual" exhaust. You'd need to move the distributor,[--put one coil pk over each cylinder] and I recommend experimenting with: 3X1-barrel carbs, 2X1/2 barrel carbs, 6X1 barrel carbs, other carb configurations, and port { but Not direct } fuel injection. Chrysler often had sealing problems when it Stupidly used an iron head on the aluminum block! Chrysler, of COURSE, SHOULD have used ONLY an aluminum Head on an aluminum block. Also, Plymouth didn't use the 225 aluminum block in the '76 "Feather-duster", another Stupid error, because with Over-drive {--5-spd}, headers, & a totally-aluminum engine {block & head}, I believe 40 mpg or more could have been obtained @ 47mph steady-state. Also the MORONS @ Chrysler, didn't put a "Hemi" head on the slant-6, even though one EXISTED in Australian "Parts-bins" for Chrysler 6s made in Australia! Chrysler later had OHC/DOHC alloy heads for their Aussie-6s that they STUPIDLY didn't market here, in the 'States! If I had been Lee Iaccoca, back in the day, the US Chrysler parts Execs would've been fired So fast, they wouldn't remember their names once outside the gate! The 4L Australian Ford "Barra" straight-6 can produce 1100 Hp with the correct adds/parts, so 6-ers CAN, "HONK!"
Damn!!! Very nice man. You definitely know your stuff. Sadly Here in the states finding one of those aluminum blocks is like finding a 426 at a garage sale. I’ve been looking into getting some Mikuni side drafts for a 4x6 or even a 6x6 but they are pretty difficult to find an expensive when you do. I’m going to look into that -3 exhaust dump that you were talking about. Sounds very interesting. Thanks for the support btw.
Meanwhile the Chevy 327 is quickly disappearing into the horizon…. leaving both the 225 and 318 way behind. Seriously, this was a very well thought out and presented video. It would be very interesting to have a Poly 318 in the mix.I was amazed how close the 225 and 318 LA were, and how well you broke down the technical side of where each was in its powerband and gear.
Wow thank you so much! I really appreciate you saying that. Makes all the hard work and effort worthwhile. Yeah that 327 is an absolutely amazing engine. One of, if not, the best engine Chevy every made. Again thank you for the support, it really means a lot.
@@atfgarage9459 In the years of my youth a healthy solid lifter 327 would often give a good challenge to a traction limited big block in the stoplight grand prix..
@@Thomas63r2 Absolutely! Chevy hit the nail on the head with that small block. Perfect cubic inches for producing both low end torque, and yet short enough stroke to get some extra revs over on the bigger cube engines. That 3.25 stroke along with the camshaft comparable to a 268 was magic. Shame we don't see too many of those anymore.
@@atfgarage9459 Times change. A hot solid lifter 327 was usually up to the challenge of a SS396 325 hp or many of the 442's and 390 Fords etc. Now it is easy to build a reliable 550 hp 383 small block with heads we could only dream of in the '60's and '70's.
I'm not a Chrysler fan per se, I did own a valiant with the 225 slant six in it and the damn thing just kept working. Great video by the way and yes I subscribed
Awesome, thanks for the support! Yeah those slant six’s are like tanks. Even most that are in the junkyard still run.
@@atfgarage9459 I'd have to agree with you.
71 Duster was lighter than a 73 Duster, but a 73 engine had a bit more smog controls than a 71. Interesting balance. Were both vehicles in good condition mechanically? What were the rear gear ratios?
Yes they are both in good running condition. I'm not 100% sure about the gear ratios. I would assume they are a little off, something in the range of Slant 6: 3.55 and the 318: 3.23. But I think you are right, that could have made all the difference. Its still amazing to me that a Slant Six *could* take a 318 head on under the right circumstances. Thanks for the interest and comment. I appreciate the support.
When the Valiant was released in Australia we all were amazed at its torque. It was road tested by Wheels magazine as' an essentially top gear car.' The little 273 V8 was another game changer. Slotted into the VC Valiant offered with a black vinyl roof and diamond white paint, it became one of the most desirable cars of its era. The 318 was never considered anything special here. The Ford 302 more popular with racers and hot rodders. Apparently the engine is detuned yet has enormous potential like its big brothers the 340 and 440 but was ignored. I owned a 318 Valiant. Easy to live with engine if you didn't mind its appetite for fuel.
cam that slant! the rods are too long for a 4500rpm limit
Absolutely! It's going to be hard to choose the right cut and lobe. This engine responds so well to performance upgrades.
I need to know how to get a picture of my goat on the top of the dragy display like you have.
I knew a guy in Long Island, in 1984, that had a 1978 Plymouth Scamp coupe, with a 225slant 6. It had all the goodys on it. He won bets from Corvettes, Mustangs, Camaros, you name it, he probably beat it.
Great video. Was the slant modified at all? Or was it bone stock? Manifolds, cams, and head work can make quite a difference
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For our attention impaired: less history and more actual comparison. The competition on YT is fierce though.
I completely understand, but I had been getting a lot of questions and false comparisons. I felt as if the history of these engines and their rivalry need to be better explained. Thanks for the comment and interest. I appreciate the support 👍.
great history the leaning tower of power is a great motor if you look up Tex Smiths XR-6 it was running a full aluminon steel sleeved six. but the LA 318 is a rock and is cheap H.P. good vid
I have 68, 69 and 73 Plymouth Valiants all with Leaning Towers of Power.
That’s awesome! Keep those legends on the road. That’s a great collection by the way.
@@atfgarage9459 O also have to add that the slant was also used in marine applications. Im 64 years old and been around these cars in the 1970. first car was a 64 GTO, so i was hooked on hotrods.
@@kevinwallis2194 They definitely don’t make cars like these anymore. The GTO was the car that ushered in the muscle car era. That’s pretty awesome that you owned one.
@@atfgarage9459 hahaha the stories i could tell. I ran demolition drbies and stock cars and kick myself at how many camaros, GTOs and chevells we cut up around the 1980s. The reason i even found yourtube was to have a safe place to store my demolition derby videos. One was a 60 plymouth wagon that ran 5 derbys and killed a lot of chevys. lol
@@kevinwallis2194 lol that’s both awesome and sad at the same time. If only we could see the future and not destroy these legends haha. Ohh well, it’s par for the course of life.
The Hudson Hornet's 308ci engine made good power because displacement has more to do with power output than number of cylinders. A 5 litre engine will make good power whether it's an 8 or a 6.
It wasn't a twin engine version of the straight eight, it was a U-16
Yes you are technically correct, however a "U" engine's literal definition is two straight engines combined, IE twin inline 8 engines. They were upgraded versions of his earlier inline 8 engines, but the point of the story still stands. This twin inline or "U" engine almost toppled a record set by an engine 27 times its size. Thanks for the post and support!
If the cars weights were equal along with everything else, the 318 should walk away from the slant. It’s a simple matter of the Power to Weight ratio at work.
They are both about 2900 lbs. both have 904 torqueflight automatic transmissions. Both are in excellent running condition. The point of this video was to show you that in fact it is not a simple matter of power to weight ratio. Throughout the history of racing, these straight 6’s have been outrunning larger v8’s due to different types of engineering advantages. These advantages are mostly, what I call “better power” and not just maximum power. They hit strides at the most opportune times with something called sonic resonance mixed with lower torque. Overall the v8 will produce more power, but the inline’s will make the most out of their smaller displacement. Thanks for the comment and interest. I really appreciate the support 👍.
I have heard on more than one occasion that the slant six was derived from a design for a V 12.
I know a lot of water has passed under the bridge but a Fiesta STI or Toyota Yaris driver would have enough time to stop at the end, get out and roll a smoke ! In the day a 1600 Dato or Escort would play with them around town let alone a Mark 1 GTI Golf !😎👍
Yeah this really shows how far technology has really come. I mean a Honda Civic now puts down faster times than a Hemi Cuda back in the day.
You should actually look at a flathead Plymouth six. I think you will find it is really not bulky at all. I am sure the thick castings make it heavy though.
Yes definitely, I’ve been wanting to do a video on it for awhile now.
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Nice video, but that 318 2bbl is missing something and a lot of something's to run in the 18's in the 1/4 mile.
So I’m assuming these are both 904’s with different rear gears then?
Actually I’m not 100% positive but it would seem the 318 has more freeway oriented gears as the slant has more grunt gears.
@Poly Bun ohh wow I had no idea there were so many variations and combinations. That’s awesome information.
So much for " no replacement for displacement "
Sometimes it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog 👍.
The 03 durangos make 250hp, the best version of the LA besides the shelby SP360
Very informative video. I have owned a number of both engines and they are both excellent and bullet proof, however you need to have the same differential gears in both cars to compare apples to apples.
You are absolutely right. However I’m not a big shop and can’t really dedicate multiple weekends at the junkyard with a micrometer, as much as I’d love to lol. But I think the essence is still there. That it is “possible” that a slant six can keep up with a 318 in the right circumstances. Which I feel is amazing! Overcoming some 100 cubic inches and two less cylinders. Albeit not a 100% fair fight 😉. I do believe if that 318 had same gears it would gap the slant by about 1 full second in the 1/4. I’ll be working on getting a 8 3/4 for both with identical gears. But yeah, thank you keeping me honest lol. You definitely know your stuff, and to be honest I can’t wait to see what happens when they both do. I really appreciate your support and comments. Let’s me know we aren’t alone and I’m not doing this for nothing 👍.
@@atfgarage9459 Fair enough. I enjoyed your vid and you put lots of effort and research into it. I have subbed and will be looking forward to further vids when you can.
Too bad Ford didn’t get the Barra here, and Australia Chrysler had a 265 slant
Man a 4.3 liter slant six would be awesome! As it is, that Barra is absolutely incredible. Bulletproof and huge compression numbers. Take that thing to the moon! In my opinion that inline is what the slant six should have been. A faster younger brother if you will lol. A real piece of Australian power! Thanks for the support 👍
@@atfgarage9459 my bad it was not inclined but had nice semihemi chambers big valve and could get 400 hp easy natural aspiration
@@dennisford2000 Straight engines have incredible balance and respond very nicely to upgrades and power adders. 400 hp would be pretty awesome to get out of an NA six
The Aussie 265 wasn't a slant. The 6Pack triple weber 4 speed was a 13 second car and smashed all sorts of V8s. A mate had a 1970 318 Fireball Valiant utility and it had no hope !😎👍
@@davidkeep6526 ohh absolutely! That torque monster would smash on v8’s almost twice it’s size. I think he meant to say inline and not slant 😉.
Watched this earlier today, what can be done with a 225 slant six without turbo or supercharger. ruclips.net/video/4zHxzHEs14k/видео.html
Wow that’s some pretty incredible stuff. That All motor slant six could walk a big block lol. I have something similar to that planned in some upcoming projects.
@@atfgarage9459 What I like is that engine will still be reliable if it's treated right, regular oil changes and no crazy revs cold.
@@johnvender yeah absolutely awesome. Could you imagine owning this thing? In my opinion, the perfect balance between dependability, performance and gas mileage.
I grew up with these cars and these engine. The 318 was always quite a bit faster than the slant 6. I have no idea why these 2 run about the same, but that was not my experience when I was growing up, and these cars were daily transportation. If I recall correctly the slant 6 was rated at 145 hp and the 318 at 230. There was a huge difference in power. I can tell you that the slant 6 cars were slugs, and I mean slugs, you could outrun them with your Converse sneakers for those first 60 feet. 318 cars were slow, but they were not complete slugs. I still recall that one of my best friends had a Volare with a slant 6. We took it out on the highway and floored it at about 40-50 miles and hour, and it took forever to get to 75-80. I mean a Yugo with one piston hanging out of the block would have beat that thing. A slant 6 would have a hard time with a 36Hp VW Beetle, and if the Beetle just had a set of headers and a crank pulley I would put my money on the Beetle all day long.
Lol that’s a funny story. It’s seems pretty common for people to get polarized experiences with the slant. I’m not 100% sure as to why that is. Exhaust leaks are pretty common with the slant. But if you look at the “official times” of both of these, they are pretty close together. Engineering for resonance can give advantages over raw horsepower output. Thanks for the comment and interest. I appreciate the support 👍
The transmission makes the 6 cylinder fast a904 transmission seemed faster I think..
@@hardknock1278 Most 318's also used a 904 transmission.
@@atfgarage9459 Gearing is probably the reason. Most slant 6 and 318 cars were also geared for mileage, not for performance. Change the rear gear and those numbers will change quite a bit.
@@akdoc2003 yeah if they aren’t already the same, I would imagine about a full second off the top for the 318.
Al A, ha.
The 318 is a small block the 340 wedge was a big block
I’m sorry to have to disagree but the 340 was in fact a small block, and yes of course the 340 was a wedge motor but I covered that in the video. I would love to make an entire video on just the 340 but this was more a tribute to the 318 and the 225. As it is the video is over 20 minutes long. Thanks for the comment and interest. I appreciate the support 👍.
The base slant six in real life wasn't even close to the 318 . I had both back. The stock slant was a dog . That 318 you're using should be doing better .
For some reason people tend to have two very polarized experiences with the slant. Some will have your experience, I.E. slow or sluggish. While others will have an experience very similar to mine I.E. quick and responsive. Both engines have checked thoroughly, both trans shift smooth. The biggest tell is the official 1/4 times. They are both very similar.
@@atfgarage9459 Well it's been a while but I had 78 Aspen super six , total dog . I also had a 68 Dodge Monaco . The Monaco here in Canada could be had with a 318 . The Monaco hit 60 in 12 seconds , the Aspen six in 17 seconds . I'm 66 and when I was younger there were slant sixes and 318 v8 cars everywhere . I think part of the problem with that Aspen is that it was was a 78 . Those late seventies cars really ran poorly much of the time .
@@jackfishcampbell6745 Also Chrysler was notorious for their engine quality of production being very lack luster at times. They would have some 360’s dyno great and some dyno not so great.
I don’t think the 318 is running correctly.
Where you got that in for it takes the slant six over the years was more like 16.00to 60mph and 19.00-20.00 in the1/4 the 318 you give the slant six a run that would embaris it in full.these are facts from owning both.be fore you miss lead any one get some real grease under your mopar facts like own over 17 slant six varis size from 170 198 and 225 hyper pack.and 23 318's and two 318 polys.where you got those times is false.the only factory slant six that could give the 318 a run for the money was 225super six in 1977 and 1977f for the 318 two barrel that's it cause the hyper pack was a in dealer option after 1962.i love the slant six but I have 40 years of mopar cars under my belt.even better look up utg garage on you tube ask him if your facts are spot on.!!!!!!!
So you were doing 1/4 mile runs on a city street?? Not a good idea. The racing for time needs to be done at a track
These facts are wrong
What facts? I rattled off quite a few, most of which we’re directly from Chrysler and NASCAR. I’m always up for learning.
Both are slow.
Well slow is a relative term. By today’s standards of course these 50-60 year old machines are not the fastest. Back in the 60’s and 70’s the fastest 1/4 time was the Hemi Cuda which ran around mid 14s. For the era and displacement, these were about average times. Thanks for the comment and interest 👍, I really appreciate the support.
stay off the streets