S3: there was a brief update. The entitled neighbors tried to sue OP for the cost of painting the house thus effectively revealing that they had done it
Unfortunately though that was the last update for several years, so it's safe to assume that the neighbors murdered them. Lol just kidding but really unfortunately to not get an update.
Yeah, that's a brilliantly stupid move. Basically commit fraud and vandalism by having someone else's house repainted without their knowledge and permission, then sue them for the costs, completely outing yourself 😄 I hope they had to pay for "damages" and the cost of the new yellow paint coat...
Yep. There's no contract for babysitting services, there's no parent there, no sitter there, and he's out there for 3 hours without supervision. That is child abandonment. Call the police and CPS and get this handled. She's not got a leg to stand on, no proof you've said you would do it. Never, ever do it the first time without a signed agreement. Hell, CPS won't put a child with a relative without getting paperwork and a signature beforehand.
Story 3: OP needs to lawyer up. By falsely representing themselves as the owners of the property, the neighbours had a fraudulent work order created - a forged document. They deserve and should receive prison sentences and the forfeiture of their house.
Even if it doesn't result in prison time, taking this to court would still do a number on those neighbors. OP's proof of ownership against the "valid" work order speaks volumes about what lines these people are willing to cross, and someone with authority needs to put them in their place.
IANAL, but there is actually a legal term for this sort of thing. It is called "conversion" (exerting unauthorized use or control of someone else's property). It really should not be hard to file (and win) a civil lawsuit against the neighbors to recover damages for any costs of repainting the house the correct color again (plus legal fees, compensation for any lost income due to the need to take time off work to deal with the situation, etc). They would not be able to sue for fraud, because they were not actually a party to the contract between them and the painters (the _painters_ could sue for fraud, but that would only be if they were damaged by the exchange in some way).
@@foogod4237 but it's fraud to impersonate someone else, right? So why wouldn't they be able to sue the neighbours for fraud since they impersonated as the owners of the house? 🤔
@@foogod4237maybe OP could sue them for identity theft since the neighbors pretended to be OP to hire the painters and OP has a copy of that contract…IANAL
Story 3: About 7 years ago or so, my family repainted our house from a icky beige color to a pleasant pale blue that looks almost lavender when the sun sets. Our one neighbor (who we have had property issues with in the past) came over to my mom while she was working in the garden and told her he didn't like the color of the house and that we should change it. Mom deadpan told him that if he paid for it, she'd gladly get the house color changed. He didn't bother us over the house color after that! 😂
And what kind of idiot leaves a gate opened when you know there's an animal there? AFTER inviting yourself in. Triple the audacity. Apparently manners don't exist to them.
These people have clearly curated a community where they're each okay with others coming into their yard for an impromptu get together. The problem is they're trying to force OP into this dynamic without trying to understand where his boundaries are and don't seem capable of understanding the notion of privacy because "we're all okay with it". Doesn't mean OP has to be.
I’m sorry but if any of my neighbours did that to me, I’d tell them straight that they aren’t welcome in my garden or house, and that they are the reason the gate is there! Fuck having a good relationship with them, where I come from it’s normal to not even know your next-door-neighbour’s name!
@@tytybaby06 Ikr? After the second or third time I’d probably give warnings about repercussions if she didn’t stop and if didn’t heed them then I’ll surprise her with CPS, police and even the local news about a negligent mother leaving her child at stranger’s houses expecting them to care for her child.
S5: Update that the guy posted on a different thread: "I knew when I saw this thread with my real account that I would be mentioned. That thread was a real wake-up call for me about what a weirdo I was being. I ended up apologizing to my neighbor (whose name I now know!) and telling her I didn't realize how inappropriate my question was. She accepted the apology and we still nod and smile in the hallway when we see each other. I will say that I talked to my old man neighbor yesterday and he told me that she left him a tray of fudge over the weekend for the holidays, and I received no such fudge, so I know there is lingering weirdness from my ask... and I totally understand it and do not feel that I deserve fudge. So, thanks again for everyone for pointing out how weird and entitled I was acting. It did help, even the mean comments, because seeing the strong reactions people had to what I did made me realize there was no wiggle room for me to NOT be an asshole."
It's good that he listened to the criticism and took it to heart, that he owned it and set it to rights. Not everyone has the fortitude to do that, so kudos to him at least for that much. Some post AITA stories looking for validation, for people to pat them on the back and confirm their bad behaviour. Looks like this guy actually wanted to learn from his mistakes, and did so.
Uninvited kids story: OP, I think you helped save your neighbor from a bullet. Old neighbors story: OP, maybe you could turn your doorbell into the equivalent of a joy buzzer? Some security cameras are definitely in order. Painted house story: I've seen this story elsewhere. OP gets her house repainted, yellow of course, and drives the neighbors nuts again. The neighbors also attempt to sue OP to recover the cost of their paying to have her house painted. Yeah, that didn't work either.
Unfortunately for the Old Neighbors story, turning the doorbell into the equivalent of a joybuzzer would probably be illegal. At least in the US it would be. It would probably classified as a booby trap which isn't considered a legally acceptable way of "defending your property", at least not without a sign that says something along the lines of "Warning this doorbell will shock you if you press it".
@@yukikitsune7366Booby trapping is only illegal IF it can cause permanent harm or maim someone. A 9v battery attached to some copper leads on a doorbell is perfectly acceptable as it only gives enough shock to warn a person off but not cause harm even if they have a pacemaker.
@@FirstIsa WTF are you talking about? ANY kind of booby trap is illegal, regardless of the level of the harm it causes, since it's a device obviously designed and used specifically for this, in many countries it's a crime to make and use it, automatically, sometimes even without the actual victim, as long as there was an intention to cause harm. A warning sign, a siren, any other device designed to warn people or just keep them away is legal (and even there are limits, for example, some kinds of barbed wire are illegal or can be used only in special cases), any one being used to intentionally harm them in any way, shape or form isn't. I don't know even one country where things like this could be legal depending on the level of harm it causes.
@@Silverhorse777 US law is a pretty broad topic and laws can vary from state to state, hell they can even vary county to county. I can set leg traps on my property and it wouldn't be illegal- those are booby traps and due to where I live and issues with large predators they are considered legal as long as they are on my property. Heck a simple home defense system that sounds an audible alarm when triggered is a booby trap, and if your unlucky and the person breaking in has a bad heart (for example from years of drug abuse damaging the valves) the sudden loud noise could cause a cardiac event and kill them. If your in the range of warning a person away without obvious intent to cause grievous bodily harm or death your usually safe legally. a small joy buzzer for a door bell could just as easily be defended as claiming it was a prank on a friend that plays ding dong ditch all the time.
The fourth story, the first time it's understandable that the OP took the kid in. The second time she should have called the police und CPS. The OP is *NOT* the neighbors babysitter. So she had no "neighbor" obligation to watch anyone's kid. The OP told the neighbor multiple times that she didn't want to watch her kid. The OP was und is *NOT* babysitter. Working from home *IS* a legitimate job. I agree that the OP should have called the cops\CPS.
I would say 'sure' to taking care of her kid, ask her to sign a contract for physical proof, (hopefully she would be ecstatic and not bother to read the terms) and hand her a bill at the end of the month for 1kUSD/hr for 30 days. Hopefully you can get 5 mortgages on your house sweetie.
Story 3: Go to a lawyer and sue the company that painted your home against your will for defacement of property, you have cameras showing they came onto your property without your permission to paint your property. Make them paint it back to it's original color. See if you can go anywhere from there to go after the neighbors after you repair the damage. Whatever you do go to a Lawyer and get your options at the very least
More importantly, they were warned by multiple neighbors that OP almost certainly didn't want the house painted. That along with the sketchy order that was placed should have given them pause.
And once the painters are sued and hopefully have to repaint the house, the painters can turn around and sue the neighbors to recoup the cost of the 2nd painting. Meaning the neighbors will pay twice for painting OP's house. Which is only fair.
Painters thought they had a valid work order and went ahead with the job to avoid being sued. In this case you could sue the painting company for not checking that the order was placed by the actual owner. They should be forced to change the colour back to yellow and then go after the people who placed the fraudulent work order for compensation.
If I was op in story number 2 I would put up a post online saying that this town has lovely neighbors who would invite themselves into you're house or you're yard without asking for you're permission and make themselves at home in you're home and pretend that it's their own home and apparently the people in this town are unable to read signs and then have daily updates to ruin their towns reputation before I move away
I would sell to someone with a lot of kids! Old people like to be in your business all the time but one thing they value the most is quiet in their retirement! Find the worst entitled parents that will give those neighbors all the attention they want by dumping their kids off in THEIR lawns to play! LOL
Yes! I've seen too many things about people "asking" then getting mad about a no. On the other side I keep seeing people say the person felt entitled because they asked. If they actually asked (means accepting a no response) then they didn't feel or act entitled. I really hate when people mix up asking and demanding.
You are a insufferably annoying, he asked, not demanded. So, no, not creepy. And those asshats saying he "felt entitled" need mental help, he was willing to pay, only asked and accepted the no.
I don't know, I am a widow on a limited income. I cook almost every day. If somebody offered to split grocery money, I might consider cooking "extra" for him. But I would not take it to him, and I think it only fair if he washed dishes a few times a week.
Coming home to a painted home, first order of business (once getting the evidence): call the police and don't go for trespassing, go for Vandalism, and fraud (their telling the paint company that the "neighbours" were the home owners).
for story 1 - in his neighbour's case, I would invite OP to thank him for helping him loose this idiot of a girl. OP texted her to not bring her kids (adults only doing adult stuff...) and she still did... story 4 - I've been waiting for this Karen to call CPS on OP for leaving her Kid on OP's porch for 3 hours... That would be a great "UNO reverse" moment...
Disagree. It's a-hole creepy shit right from the start. If I were her that would freak me right out, and I'd ... a) stop cooking at home b) get an extra lock for my door c) carry pepper spray when walking to my door d) contact the landlord about creepy neighbour e) start looking for a new apartment The woman has no idea what to expect from someone with so few boundaries that they'd even think it was ok to ask such a thing. Men that are so socially clueless and entitled like this are what our mothers warned us about.
There is no entitlement. Nothing wrong with asking. It is just a business transaction. That's all nothing else. Nothing more nothing less. Nothing wrong with sweetening the pot. If it is a no, it's a no. Nothing creepy about it. It was perfectly to ASK in the older days, and nobody batted an eye if the response was a no. I would recommend a good agreement so everyone knows the expectations.
@@Fete_FataleImmediately turning your apartment into a bunker, arming yourself and fleeing to another location when someone asks if you would be willing to cook extra of something in exchange for money is insane behavior. You are the woman bosses refuse to have one on one meetings with.
Story 2: The entitlement of those neighbors is just baffling. They're more than happy to help themselves to OP's stuff/yard, but I'm sure if OP were to do the same to them, they'd lose their minds and refuse in a heartbeat.
When she called about no babysitter I would have made it clear that if she brought any kids she would not be allowed to enter. I also would have contacted the neighbor that she was going to come with and told him that it was still a child free party and no kids would be allowed no matter what she said.
STORY 4: Back in the late 80s O had a crazy neighbor like that. She had a little toddler that she plop in the front yard and then go inside and watch TV. The kid would start wandering into the street. Now she lived directly across the street from an elderly guy I'll call Mr. Mac. (I lived a few doors down from Mac.) I was sitting on my porch talking to a friend when the kid wandered into the road. Mr. Mac walked over picked him up and knocked on her door telling her "You need to mind your child. He could get hit by a car outside alone." This crazy woman says she thought Mr. Mac was watching him. He laughed in her face and said in "Nope, nope, I am not watching your kid." . She then pointed to me and my buddy and said "Well, *ME* and *My buddy* are outside. They can watch him." I yelled across the street "I AM NOT watching your kid. Don't even THINK about that happening." Funny thing is she lived with the kids father. (I don't think they were married) but he was at work in the daytime. One day she came knocking on my door holding the kid. He had cut his hand somehow and she asked if I would drive them to the ER. The cut wasn't bad but I'm no doctor, and hey, he's a toddler....so I did. They bandaged up the kid (who wasn't even crying) and I drove back home with them both. When I pulled into my driveway she asked if she could borrow some milk. I left her and the kid in the living room while I went to my kitchen. When I got back she was gone, but the kid was in front of my TV. Oh, hell no. Now I was about to scoop the kid up and take him home, but just then I saw her husband/boyfriend/kid's father marching to my door. He was pissed, but not at me. Seems he got home from work early, asked where his son was while she was laying on the couch watching TV and she told him she left him at my house. I didn't know the guy well, but he was savvy enough to know she had dumped him on me. He apologized for her and took his son home. The whole street could hear him yelling at her after that. I don't know what happened to them as I moved out shortly after that. I guess I should have asked Mr. Mac.
cooking story... kind of funny that OP assumes the female neighbor is the one doing the cooking, and not the single old man, specially after she said she couldn't because she is busy!
Story 3: I'm pretty sure OP can get them for fraud or identity theft and force them to pay for repainting the house, since that is the damage that they caused. Also looked it up, the neighbors tried to sue OP for the cost of repainting the house, unfortunately there were no further updates.
Oh, you found the update, too! Sad we didn't get to hear more after that, but with the neighbors trying to sue OP, I think we can conclude it settled in OP's favor.
3rd (not second!) story makes **zero** sense and I question its authenticity. Because a work order is _never_ a valid excuse to tresspass. The company basically tresspassed and committed destruction of property resulting in emotional distress. Not to mention the negligence for not checking if the house was actually the neighbors. Ergo: sue that company.
That depends on the trespass laws. In some areas, workers can remodel the exterior or interior of a home depending on their authority. Because there was no serious damage to the structure of the home, its appearance will not be taken into account. It's like throwing a water balloon at a wall.
Sadly, the story is very likely to be true. I chalk it up to good old fashioned greed. The painters were paid upfront and in cash. IF they walked away from the site, they'd have to pay their workers AND likely lose the fee for the job. The fact that they didn't think twice when neighbors questioned the validity tells me some manager was being greedy rather than smart
Yea, it's extremely remiss of the painters to just accept a walk-in (and cash) client without at least visiting the house and knocking on the damned front door to speak to the owner.
The homeowner in #3 should sue the neighbor in court - small claims court or through a lawyer depending on the cost to change the color back to the original yellow. Have an investigator get the painters to identify the neighbors as the originators of the work order and sign an affidavit.
They don't even need the painters to do that. You have to dig a little, but there was a small update where the neighbor's decided to sue OP for the cost they had to pay the painters to paint OP's house, so they already outed themselves, haha. That was the final update, unfortunately.
If someone abandons their kid on your porch, rest assured that it won't be the last time. Call the cops and REPORT it IMMEDIATELY! THEY will find the mom and explain how inappropriate this course of action is.
S4. OP is TA. She should have called the police the first day she left her son there. Cooking story. I love cooking but I don't like cooking for myself. Personally, I would have taken OP up on the cooking deal.
Plus I think you might have to have the grey painted over white first if it's dark enough so your shade of yellow comes out right. You don't want it to be dingy or fade over time to dingy. That's an extra cost.
That guy who wanted better meals even though they can't cook does have options. I can't cook either. Plus I was in a car accident then found out I had cancer while raising a child with Autism. I got a crockpot, found easy dump & go meal recipes, and meal prepped. On days that don't hurt as much, I dumped food into zip loc bags and froze them. Then each morning I dropped the bag in the crockpot, spend the day doing appointments and/or therapies (aqua/physical, etc), then a hot dinner would be waiting.
The repainted house, of course the neighbors could be sued. What they did was commit fraud. And the company would be liable, too, because they obviously didn't check to make sure the homeowners ownef the home. OP wasn't available to ask so cops are off the hook. That the OP couldn't find an attorney who would point this out in a free consultation and take up the case because it's easy money makes me suspect this is a fake story.
OP, who asked his neighbor to cook for him. I asked a co-worker if I gave her money would she & her bf cook extra for me. She gave me a funny look & said, "No." That was the end of that subject between us.
I’m sorry, anyone just dropping their kid off at someone’s home is irresponsible and unfit to be a parent. You gotta call CPS because that’s not a good situation for a child to be in.
Last story: it depends on how much someone is offering to pay me to cook for them…..like I have no issue cooking for people… but a little extra money always helps 😂
I feel like people would view the last story differently if it wasn't a Man asking a Woman. Personally if I (M) was in the woman's shoes I'd gladly take the money to make a slightly larger portion, I'm guessing the guy offered a decent amount per meal so it'd mean that I'd end up paying out of pocket less per meal even if I had to make a bit more. If the guy said anything negative to her or even if he looked angry or aggressive towards her declining him then he'd suck for making her feel wrong for saying no, but the way I read it was that he's simply upset and doesn't really understand why she wouldn't help.
The repainted house, take the company to court, if it's thrown out of court, paint their house random colors, and if they get mad, remind them that they did it to someone else's house without permission.
I used to cook for new grads at one place I worked. I loved it! They would bring over groceries, and my young daughter and I would eat, basically, for free. It wasn't every day, but I enjoyed feeding the new guys I worked with. They were like my kids. They didn't always eat at my house. Sometimes, they would pick it up and eat while they studied.
I love to cook when home, and my neighbor has paid me to cook a few meals for them on occasion. I'll make a big pot of something that will leave them with leftovers, & isn't too time-consuming to make. And I also share desserts with them when I have extra. That being said, if "Katie" said no to the offer, then OP needs to figure something else out. Maybe Katie meal preps, so she cooks a big batch of something to eat throughout the week.
On that last story: It's hard to believe that this guy was so completely inept at cooking. If he can make instant mac & cheese there's a lot of other (more healthy) meals he could easily make for himself. But, I'm a lucky guy as my mom was a terrible cook, and I taught myself to cook in self-defense! 😂 Sounds like mommy did everything for this a-hole, instead of teaching him to take care of himself
Boiling potatoes is a no-brainer. Washed potatoes in a pot filled with water, high heat for 35 minutes, done. Home economics class should be mandatory.
Yellow or at least yellowy plaster for the houses in my area is actually fairly common, certainly I have never felt the need to go to war over colour with anyone over anything other than my birthday cake.
Story 3: No damage to the house?! Glad to know graffiti isn't vandalism. As far as I'm concerned this is no different than if someone had spraypainted OPs house with street art.
If I was in OP's shoes, I'd break out the spray paint and cover the house with all relevant hate symbols including the manji that the Big H appropriated, along with things like "KAREN LIVES HERE" or "BEWARE OF KAREN".
I just talked with a friend of mine who does home construction. He said, and I quote: "That's very illegal but would not be the fault of the painting company. I don't normally ask who owns a home. Not many people in the country would pay those types of figures as a spiteful act." He went on to say, and I quote, "Nothing for the cops to do, not a red flag in sight, that's why they painted it. Best that CAN happen is that the idiot neighbors gave their real name and it can be dealt with in court. Likely there's no criminal standing, they'll have to pay to have it painted back the way it was." So there you have it from a professional.
This is weird. I've never gone to a painter to hire them to paint a house I lived in. I call them and they come to my house to look at what needs to be painted and write up an estimate. It seems they should have been suspicious that these people came to them to hire them. The cooking story: Forget all the creepy vibes this woman is getting from him. Let's just look at the logistics of his request. Besides having to buy and take the time to cook extra food for this neighbor she barely knows, what happens if she goes out for dinner? She would have to let him know when she is or isn't home ALL THE TIME! She's not free to what she wants when she wants, unless this guy knows about it in advance. It's an invasion of her privacy. He needs to figure out cook for himself.
I agree on both of your thoughts. And as I note, the painters would charge several thousand to paint an entire home exterior, and they walked in with cash, and there were no questions? I smell barnyard.
@@tgbedini A lot of these types of businesses offer a discount if you pay in cash. I always refuse because I'm convinced they're just trying to get around having to report it to the IRS, and I'm not going to help them do that. They found a painter that would take cash and not ask questions. How did they even know how much it would cost? Someone in the comments said that an update stated that the neighbors tried to make OP pay them back the money they spent to paint the house. So, hopefully OP got them to pay to repaint it back to the color OP wanted.
@@rebekah.2187 When you pay by card, the card company takes about 3% of the cost. So, would you like whole dollars, or .97 dollars for your business? Credit is convenient, but it enriches banks at the cost of businesses.
12:36 bull, They ruined the exterior yellow paint by doing the job, Any customer could simply show their I.D to show proof of residence, and they didn't even check that they were the.Owner, so actually they could be sued easily.
Story 5: The lady said no. She doesn't have to explain. But if that were me, I wouldn't want to be expected to have someone's meal ready every day at a specific time. Never be able to spontaneously stop for dinner or go to a movie or do anything else on a whim? No, thank you, NO!
The third\title story, the OP was harmed. Their house was painted without their permission. I would have to think that the OP can sue their neighbor. Especially with the evidence gathered from the other neighbor.
I think I've seen this story elsewhere. The crazy couple eventually demanded that OP reimburse them for the cost of painting her house. They sent a written demand for payment. 🤣🤣🤣 With that proof of their unsanctioned actions, OP promptly sued them. Funny enough she hired the same company to repaint her house because she was happy with the quality of the job.
Am I taking crazy pills? The comments and the speaker here acts like he insisted she has to. I mean I hope he apologized in the end when he recognized he was making her uncomfortable, and yeah he should definitely keep his distance now, but why are you putting words in his mouth?
Story 3: The company DID NOT have a valid work order as the one's who made the order/paid WERE NOT RESIDENTS OR OWNERS OF THAT HOUSE, something the painting company is supposed to check prior to starting (every company I've used has required paperwork proving I have the authority to alter the house). OP should have legal recourse to get their house repainted to the original yellow color for free, as the company DID vandalize the house. Story 4: The solution is to tell her that if she leaves the child at your house that you will be calling the cops for child abandonment and then following through on the threat. She was told REPEATEDLY that OP was not a babysitter and to stop leaving her child there.
For the last story, the better thing would've been to say "hi, sorry to bother you, this might be weird but i was wondering if i could have the recipe to whatever you've been cooking? It smells incredible and I'm trying to get better at cooking." It's a lot less weird, and if she says no, accept the bloody no
Story 5. Rather than pester his neighbor to cook extra for him and come across as a lazy bum, maybe he should've done this: Approach the neighbor and ask "Look, I can't keep eating take out and boxed mac n' cheese. Can you teach me how to cook healthy stuff? I'll compensate you for your time and materials." And if rejected, graciously say ok and find other avenues to increase his cooking skills. This is seriously a failure of his parents for failing to teach him a valuable life skill to cook. Everyone should learn this skill, as cooking your own food is far cheaper than eating out every night.
My mom required each of her sons to learn how to cook one dish. "Art" became the family apple pie baker. "Bob" stuck to Caesar salad. Art eventually married and did all the cooking in his home every Sunday, including upside-down yeast cinnamon rolls (the gooey kind) for breakfast. Bob never married, and to this day he gets most of his meals at McDonald's.
OK to the comments that were read on the last story. Asking twice is not pestering nor is it entitled. Now anymore times would start putting it into those things. Yes it was weird that OP didn't even try to get to know the woman first. But just asking isn't a bad thing. It is the demanding that is bad. And OP didn't demand anything.
The only thing I can suggest about the house painting is to dig out the court papers, talk to your lawyer and sue both the neighbours and the painting company for damages
For the last story, I don't think asking once was bad or entitled. That can be normal enough. When the answer is no, it's time to move on. It's the reaction of complaining and trying to make her out as the bad person that makes it all negative.
That neighbor is crazy for taking care of that kid. I would have said the very first day, the next time you do this I will be calling the cops and telling them you abandoned your kid and having him taken away from you and if you don't think I'll do it F-ing TRY ME!!!
Cooking for more than 1 person isn’t as easy as OP assumes it is. You need to factor in purchasing ingredients, storage, preparation, etc. Also it’s possible that her pots and pans and other cooking and baking equipment are only suitable for a single person. I’m thinking he should have just asked her if she wouldn’t mind sharing her recipes and use that as a starting point for learning to cook for himself.
That is a great way to start something. And include the single older man. Maybe turn it into all three cooking for each other ones or twice a week. NOT make it a planned thing, just a "I will be cooking X tomorrow, would you also like some? It's a dish much easier to make a lot of."
Last story... I'm a single mother. If one of my neighbors approached me with the same request, offering to pay, and was respectful id cook for him. Wouldn't be the first time, probably won't be the last. He's trying to be healthier and cost effective. At least he knows his weak points (no cooking skills). She, and by default a bunch of you, have overreacted to a request that for many decades would have been normal. People have become incredibly selfish and self-centered. People used to care about their neighbors. He's NTA. But a lot of you could use a good look at compassion. If he was asking her to do it for free I could agree. He's not. Maybe he also thought the extra cash income would be a benefit. Maybe he'd be willing to split shopping duties and fees as well. Ask questions before assuming the worst.
I would also consider the offer and get to know the neighbor a bit more. Who knows- he could come in handy at some point if you’re in need of something he could do. Mostly tho if I cook extra or have leftovers I save it for lunch the next day. But being able to plan accordingly would help if sharing with someone
If they were friends or even good acquaintances, maybe. But saying hi to someone in the hallway does not a relationship make. They don’t know each other.
@@PuppyKatt asking repeatedly is not in and of itself stalkers behavior. Maybe he was hoping she'd change her mind. Again, he was offering payment not requesting free services or groceries
Step one...find the three ugliest shades of paint you can. Step two...paint pokedots all over your grey house.step three...when neighbors come over tell them how grateful you are for their generosity and you will be certain to return the favor. Afterall, the neighborhood just doesn't feel the same without a yellow house, and you are more than happy to fix that problem.
Story 4: OP should figure out how much salary she would have earned at the library if she had interviewed and got the job. Not how much per hour or per year, but how much over her entire career. And then sue Karen for THAT amount. Probably somewhere in the low 7 digits. And yes, she should have called police. And she should have decked Karen.
For the person who had her house painted, I would sue for identity theft. The two neighbors signed a contract using your name. That's identity theft. Don't stop until you get them to paint your house yellow again!
Are there specific requirements to reporting an abusive mother and/or abandoned child? OP told Karen she wouldn't be there, Karen left her child on OP's porch anyway, the child was alone for 3 hours, all because Karen "couldn't find anyone else." That's willful abandonment. Based on how this story ended, I'm guessing she never tried to find anyone else. And if that incident wasn't enough to call the authorities, how do you not call them after Karen follows you and leaves her child in your car? If anything, wouldn't there be a way to reach out to Karen's husband sooner? How much money was he "paying the babysitter" and what was Karen doing with all of that money?
Story 4, her "neighbourly duty" was to inform the authorities about child abandonment. It was well past time to call CPS when he was left alone for 3 hours during the doctor appointment.
Re: The house painting story. Hell YES I'd have their house painted when they were gone. And I'd have it painted the exact shade of yellow they detested on OP's house.
And added a coating that makes any other paint slide off. It's expensive, but worth it. It's used to discourage taggers. I don't remember what it's called.
S3: there was a brief update. The entitled neighbors tried to sue OP for the cost of painting the house thus effectively revealing that they had done it
I would hope this would be evidence enough for OP to have some legal recourse.
I hope that gets op retribution somehow!
They’re entitled and idiots.
Unfortunately though that was the last update for several years, so it's safe to assume that the neighbors murdered them.
Lol just kidding but really unfortunately to not get an update.
Yeah, that's a brilliantly stupid move. Basically commit fraud and vandalism by having someone else's house repainted without their knowledge and permission, then sue them for the costs, completely outing yourself 😄 I hope they had to pay for "damages" and the cost of the new yellow paint coat...
"Hello Police? Yes, there is an abandoned child on my porch".
Done in one.
Exactly
IKR!!
That woman had no backbone
"My kids are well behaved"
How well behaved can kids whose mother can't accept no for an answer actually be?
That would depend entirely on who's Definition of 'Well Behaved' you're using...
Yours, Mine or Karen's?
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
"My kids are well behaved."
Great, then you can leave your kids at home.
@@forcewielder2000 Damn Right!
I've Child-Proofed my home...
But the little Bastards still manage to find a way in...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Well, if she can't accept no for an answer from them either, they could be very well behaved around her because they're terrified of her...
That's what I was thinking, haha.
How is it a valid work order if the owner of the house didn’t give permission or order the work done?
The police didn't know at the time and OP wasn't home to deny the painters access.
Meaning by this, they shouldn't just be able to show a picture..same as a locksmith needs proof of ownership in some way before opening your door....
Thinks the painting company has to repair...FREE
Yeah we’re missing some info here. It’s not that easy to do this unless the paint company did something else shady.
@@monteverdi1567they were already being shady by taking Karen's money and painting OP's house.
Lady dropping kid almost every day should have had police and DHS called on her, esp after the 3 some hours outside by himself.
Yep. There's no contract for babysitting services, there's no parent there, no sitter there, and he's out there for 3 hours without supervision. That is child abandonment. Call the police and CPS and get this handled. She's not got a leg to stand on, no proof you've said you would do it. Never, ever do it the first time without a signed agreement. Hell, CPS won't put a child with a relative without getting paperwork and a signature beforehand.
Why DHS? Was she a terrorist? Did I miss that part of story?
@@gorilladisco9108 sorry dept of human services, that is who we call for child abuse in our area.
Police should have been called after day 2 of this (bleep). Child abandonment.
IKR!!
Fourth story: Why OP didn't call the cops and CPS right away. OP is too nice to give that entitled woman actual consequences.
Story 3: OP needs to lawyer up. By falsely representing themselves as the owners of the property, the neighbours had a fraudulent work order created - a forged document. They deserve and should receive prison sentences and the forfeiture of their house.
Even if it doesn't result in prison time, taking this to court would still do a number on those neighbors. OP's proof of ownership against the "valid" work order speaks volumes about what lines these people are willing to cross, and someone with authority needs to put them in their place.
IANAL, but there is actually a legal term for this sort of thing. It is called "conversion" (exerting unauthorized use or control of someone else's property). It really should not be hard to file (and win) a civil lawsuit against the neighbors to recover damages for any costs of repainting the house the correct color again (plus legal fees, compensation for any lost income due to the need to take time off work to deal with the situation, etc).
They would not be able to sue for fraud, because they were not actually a party to the contract between them and the painters (the _painters_ could sue for fraud, but that would only be if they were damaged by the exchange in some way).
@@foogod4237 but it's fraud to impersonate someone else, right? So why wouldn't they be able to sue the neighbours for fraud since they impersonated as the owners of the house? 🤔
@@foogod4237maybe OP could sue them for identity theft since the neighbors pretended to be OP to hire the painters and OP has a copy of that contract…IANAL
Story 4: This is why you don't bother with warnings; just call police and CPS right away.
I hope the Husband divorces her and takes the kid.
I agree, call CPS right away.
OP shouldn’t have let her get away with it past the second time.
@@JosieJOK It should not have gotten to a second time in my book.
@@arnoldfossman1701 Exactly. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
Story 3: About 7 years ago or so, my family repainted our house from a icky beige color to a pleasant pale blue that looks almost lavender when the sun sets. Our one neighbor (who we have had property issues with in the past) came over to my mom while she was working in the garden and told her he didn't like the color of the house and that we should change it. Mom deadpan told him that if he paid for it, she'd gladly get the house color changed. He didn't bother us over the house color after that! 😂
Story 2: “fix me up a plate”?! The AUDACITY
I caught that, too! Like, excuse you?
And what kind of idiot leaves a gate opened when you know there's an animal there? AFTER inviting yourself in. Triple the audacity. Apparently manners don't exist to them.
These people have clearly curated a community where they're each okay with others coming into their yard for an impromptu get together. The problem is they're trying to force OP into this dynamic without trying to understand where his boundaries are and don't seem capable of understanding the notion of privacy because "we're all okay with it". Doesn't mean OP has to be.
I’m sorry but if any of my neighbours did that to me, I’d tell them straight that they aren’t welcome in my garden or house, and that they are the reason the gate is there! Fuck having a good relationship with them, where I come from it’s normal to not even know your next-door-neighbour’s name!
Story 4: leave your kid at my house and get a visit from CPS and the police for child abandonment and child neglect
Facts I couldn’t believe OP let it go on for so long beyond ridiculous
@@tytybaby06 Ikr? After the second or third time I’d probably give warnings about repercussions if she didn’t stop and if didn’t heed them then I’ll surprise her with CPS, police and even the local news about a negligent mother leaving her child at stranger’s houses expecting them to care for her child.
Story 4: OP should've called the police right then and there. Like, STAND UP FOR YOURSELF!!!!! GEEEZ!
seriously, this woman infuriated me! what a pushover
S5: Update that the guy posted on a different thread:
"I knew when I saw this thread with my real account that I would be mentioned. That thread was a real wake-up call for me about what a weirdo I was being. I ended up apologizing to my neighbor (whose name I now know!) and telling her I didn't realize how inappropriate my question was. She accepted the apology and we still nod and smile in the hallway when we see each other.
I will say that I talked to my old man neighbor yesterday and he told me that she left him a tray of fudge over the weekend for the holidays, and I received no such fudge, so I know there is lingering weirdness from my ask... and I totally understand it and do not feel that I deserve fudge.
So, thanks again for everyone for pointing out how weird and entitled I was acting. It did help, even the mean comments, because seeing the strong reactions people had to what I did made me realize there was no wiggle room for me to NOT be an asshole."
I didn't think it was that weird. Maybe his second ask. Perhaps he should post a notice in the building, and someone else can take him up on it.
I didn’t think it was weird more so boy math 😂 he was being lazy ass and didn’t want to learn how to cook. Seriously, RUclips cooking videos.
@@dudeorduuude5211 Or he could cook his own food.
Don't want to cook?
Go make green or fruit salads. They're healthier than your Mac and Cheese.
It's good that he listened to the criticism and took it to heart, that he owned it and set it to rights. Not everyone has the fortitude to do that, so kudos to him at least for that much. Some post AITA stories looking for validation, for people to pat them on the back and confirm their bad behaviour. Looks like this guy actually wanted to learn from his mistakes, and did so.
Uninvited kids story: OP, I think you helped save your neighbor from a bullet.
Old neighbors story: OP, maybe you could turn your doorbell into the equivalent of a joy buzzer? Some security cameras are definitely in order.
Painted house story: I've seen this story elsewhere. OP gets her house repainted, yellow of course, and drives the neighbors nuts again. The neighbors also attempt to sue OP to recover the cost of their paying to have her house painted. Yeah, that didn't work either.
Unfortunately for the Old Neighbors story, turning the doorbell into the equivalent of a joybuzzer would probably be illegal. At least in the US it would be. It would probably classified as a booby trap which isn't considered a legally acceptable way of "defending your property", at least not without a sign that says something along the lines of "Warning this doorbell will shock you if you press it".
OP should wait until they are on vacation and revenge paint their house. 😈
@@yukikitsune7366Booby trapping is only illegal IF it can cause permanent harm or maim someone.
A 9v battery attached to some copper leads on a doorbell is perfectly acceptable as it only gives enough shock to warn a person off but not cause harm even if they have a pacemaker.
@@FirstIsa WTF are you talking about? ANY kind of booby trap is illegal, regardless of the level of the harm it causes, since it's a device obviously designed and used specifically for this, in many countries it's a crime to make and use it, automatically, sometimes even without the actual victim, as long as there was an intention to cause harm. A warning sign, a siren, any other device designed to warn people or just keep them away is legal (and even there are limits, for example, some kinds of barbed wire are illegal or can be used only in special cases), any one being used to intentionally harm them in any way, shape or form isn't. I don't know even one country where things like this could be legal depending on the level of harm it causes.
@@Silverhorse777 US law is a pretty broad topic and laws can vary from state to state, hell they can even vary county to county. I can set leg traps on my property and it wouldn't be illegal- those are booby traps and due to where I live and issues with large predators they are considered legal as long as they are on my property.
Heck a simple home defense system that sounds an audible alarm when triggered is a booby trap, and if your unlucky and the person breaking in has a bad heart (for example from years of drug abuse damaging the valves) the sudden loud noise could cause a cardiac event and kill them.
If your in the range of warning a person away without obvious intent to cause grievous bodily harm or death your usually safe legally. a small joy buzzer for a door bell could just as easily be defended as claiming it was a prank on a friend that plays ding dong ditch all the time.
The fourth story, the first time it's understandable that the OP took the kid in. The second time she should have called the police und CPS.
The OP is *NOT* the neighbors babysitter. So she had no "neighbor" obligation to watch anyone's kid.
The OP told the neighbor multiple times that she didn't want to watch her kid.
The OP was und is *NOT* babysitter.
Working from home *IS* a legitimate job.
I agree that the OP should have called the cops\CPS.
Story 4: after the first time you call the police. Period.
Yes
I'm really concerned about her being out there in the world with no apparent ability to say no.
I'd let it slide with a warning the first time. I'd say "do this again and I'm calling CPS." And then yea, second time immediately call CPS.
I would say 'sure' to taking care of her kid, ask her to sign a contract for physical proof, (hopefully she would be ecstatic and not bother to read the terms) and hand her a bill at the end of the month for 1kUSD/hr for 30 days. Hopefully you can get 5 mortgages on your house sweetie.
In this case, called her husband would be a better solution since she was taking his money somewhere else. That's fraud.
Just so everyone knows, if someone tries to ditch a kid with you, just call the cops for child abandonment
Story 3: Go to a lawyer and sue the company that painted your home against your will for defacement of property, you have cameras showing they came onto your property without your permission to paint your property. Make them paint it back to it's original color. See if you can go anywhere from there to go after the neighbors after you repair the damage. Whatever you do go to a Lawyer and get your options at the very least
More importantly, they were warned by multiple neighbors that OP almost certainly didn't want the house painted. That along with the sketchy order that was placed should have given them pause.
And once the painters are sued and hopefully have to repaint the house, the painters can turn around and sue the neighbors to recoup the cost of the 2nd painting. Meaning the neighbors will pay twice for painting OP's house. Which is only fair.
Painters thought they had a valid work order and went ahead with the job to avoid being sued. In this case you could sue the painting company for not checking that the order was placed by the actual owner. They should be forced to change the colour back to yellow and then go after the people who placed the fraudulent work order for compensation.
Defacement of property, not defamation.
@@norarivkis2513 thank you for the correction, wasn't sure the correct wording
If I was op in story number 2 I would put up a post online saying that this town has lovely neighbors who would invite themselves into you're house or you're yard without asking for you're permission and make themselves at home in you're home and pretend that it's their own home and apparently the people in this town are unable to read signs and then have daily updates to ruin their towns reputation before I move away
But then op wouldn’t find a buyer for the house.
I would sell to someone with a lot of kids! Old people like to be in your business all the time but one thing they value the most is quiet in their retirement! Find the worst entitled parents that will give those neighbors all the attention they want by dumping their kids off in THEIR lawns to play! LOL
Plot twist: They have dementia. All of them.
@@gorilladisco9108 Question: is illiteracy a symptom of dementia?
Last story: asking once, no big deal. Ask twice, it's creepy
Yes! I've seen too many things about people "asking" then getting mad about a no. On the other side I keep seeing people say the person felt entitled because they asked. If they actually asked (means accepting a no response) then they didn't feel or act entitled. I really hate when people mix up asking and demanding.
Disagree about asking once being no big deal. Even that's pushing it.
You are a insufferably annoying, he asked, not demanded. So, no, not creepy. And those asshats saying he "felt entitled" need mental help, he was willing to pay, only asked and accepted the no.
@@firefly4f4 why? Odd yes. Big deal because...?
@@josephostbyluvsfiji If you don't immediately get why I doubt any amount of explaining would convince you.
I would have my house repainted yellow. The most eye-searing canary yellow available.
No, mate, what you want is hi-vis fluoro yellow.
I don't know, I am a widow on a limited income. I cook almost every day. If somebody offered to split grocery money, I might consider cooking "extra" for him. But I would not take it to him, and I think it only fair if he washed dishes a few times a week.
Coming home to a painted home, first order of business (once getting the evidence): call the police and don't go for trespassing, go for Vandalism, and fraud (their telling the paint company that the "neighbours" were the home owners).
I think it's not fraud, but identity theft. Though that probably depends on the juristiction.
*theY'RE
@@Sam-ob4of I wasn't saying "they are telling," I'm referencing "their telling"...
I’d sue for the neighbor painting my house. They ordered it so they can pay for it to be redone.
@KylaFuller An even brighter yellow than the original.
@@PuppyKatt Hi-vis fluoro yellow FTW!
for story 1 - in his neighbour's case, I would invite OP to thank him for helping him loose this idiot of a girl. OP texted her to not bring her kids (adults only doing adult stuff...) and she still did...
story 4 - I've been waiting for this Karen to call CPS on OP for leaving her Kid on OP's porch for 3 hours... That would be a great "UNO reverse" moment...
Asking her to cook extra with you paying her is weird but NTA.
Demanding she cooks for you?
YTA
He could of asked if she was willing to teach him how to cook and pay for the lessons.
Disagree.
It's a-hole creepy shit right from the start.
If I were her that would freak me right out, and I'd ...
a) stop cooking at home
b) get an extra lock for my door
c) carry pepper spray when walking to my door
d) contact the landlord about creepy neighbour
e) start looking for a new apartment
The woman has no idea what to expect from someone with so few boundaries that they'd even think it was ok to ask such a thing. Men that are so socially clueless and entitled like this are what our mothers warned us about.
There is no entitlement. Nothing wrong with asking. It is just a business transaction. That's all nothing else. Nothing more nothing less. Nothing wrong with sweetening the pot. If it is a no, it's a no. Nothing creepy about it. It was perfectly to ASK in the older days, and nobody batted an eye if the response was a no. I would recommend a good agreement so everyone knows the expectations.
@@Fete_FataleImmediately turning your apartment into a bunker, arming yourself and fleeing to another location when someone asks if you would be willing to cook extra of something in exchange for money is insane behavior. You are the woman bosses refuse to have one on one meetings with.
@@Fete_Fatale that seems like an extreme reaction to an odd request
Story 2: The entitlement of those neighbors is just baffling. They're more than happy to help themselves to OP's stuff/yard, but I'm sure if OP were to do the same to them, they'd lose their minds and refuse in a heartbeat.
Story 1. Big mistake was even letting them in the door. I would have told them to leave and close the door.
When she called about no babysitter I would have made it clear that if she brought any kids she would not be allowed to enter. I also would have contacted the neighbor that she was going to come with and told him that it was still a child free party and no kids would be allowed no matter what she said.
STORY 4: Back in the late 80s O had a crazy neighbor like that. She had a little toddler that she plop in the front yard and then go inside and watch TV. The kid would start wandering into the street. Now she lived directly across the street from an elderly guy I'll call Mr. Mac. (I lived a few doors down from Mac.) I was sitting on my porch talking to a friend when the kid wandered into the road. Mr. Mac walked over picked him up and knocked on her door telling her "You need to mind your child. He could get hit by a car outside alone." This crazy woman says she thought Mr. Mac was watching him. He laughed in her face and said in "Nope, nope, I am not watching your kid." . She then pointed to me and my buddy and said "Well, *ME* and *My buddy* are outside. They can watch him." I yelled across the street "I AM NOT watching your kid. Don't even THINK about that happening."
Funny thing is she lived with the kids father. (I don't think they were married) but he was at work in the daytime. One day she came knocking on my door holding the kid. He had cut his hand somehow and she asked if I would drive them to the ER. The cut wasn't bad but I'm no doctor, and hey, he's a toddler....so I did. They bandaged up the kid (who wasn't even crying) and I drove back home with them both. When I pulled into my driveway she asked if she could borrow some milk. I left her and the kid in the living room while I went to my kitchen. When I got back she was gone, but the kid was in front of my TV. Oh, hell no.
Now I was about to scoop the kid up and take him home, but just then I saw her husband/boyfriend/kid's father marching to my door. He was pissed, but not at me. Seems he got home from work early, asked where his son was while she was laying on the couch watching TV and she told him she left him at my house. I didn't know the guy well, but he was savvy enough to know she had dumped him on me. He apologized for her and took his son home. The whole street could hear him yelling at her after that.
I don't know what happened to them as I moved out shortly after that. I guess I should have asked Mr. Mac.
cooking story... kind of funny that OP assumes the female neighbor is the one doing the cooking, and not the single old man, specially after she said she couldn't because she is busy!
Yeah- never assume. I'm a "single old man" who cooks! But I wouldn't for an entitled jerk.
Story 3: I'm pretty sure OP can get them for fraud or identity theft and force them to pay for repainting the house, since that is the damage that they caused.
Also looked it up, the neighbors tried to sue OP for the cost of repainting the house, unfortunately there were no further updates.
Oh, you found the update, too! Sad we didn't get to hear more after that, but with the neighbors trying to sue OP, I think we can conclude it settled in OP's favor.
3rd (not second!) story makes **zero** sense and I question its authenticity. Because a work order is _never_ a valid excuse to tresspass. The company basically tresspassed and committed destruction of property resulting in emotional distress. Not to mention the negligence for not checking if the house was actually the neighbors. Ergo: sue that company.
That depends on the trespass laws. In some areas, workers can remodel the exterior or interior of a home depending on their authority. Because there was no serious damage to the structure of the home, its appearance will not be taken into account. It's like throwing a water balloon at a wall.
Not destruction of property. Nothing was destroyed. It's vandalism, which applies to more than just destruction of property.
Shouldn't it count as fraud by the neighbours as well? 🤔
Sadly, the story is very likely to be true. I chalk it up to good old fashioned greed. The painters were paid upfront and in cash. IF they walked away from the site, they'd have to pay their workers AND likely lose the fee for the job. The fact that they didn't think twice when neighbors questioned the validity tells me some manager was being greedy rather than smart
@@kizo_wotw4717 ~ so spray painting your initials on an overpass is just a form of maintenance
I'm sorry but there was no valid work order. To be a valid work order you must have legal permission from the owner.
Yea, it's extremely remiss of the painters to just accept a walk-in (and cash) client without at least visiting the house and knocking on the damned front door to speak to the owner.
Take neighbor to court and have the court force them to pay to repaint it back to yellow .
The homeowner in #3 should sue the neighbor in court - small claims court or through a lawyer depending on the cost to change the color back to the original yellow. Have an investigator get the painters to identify the neighbors as the originators of the work order and sign an affidavit.
They don't even need the painters to do that. You have to dig a little, but there was a small update where the neighbor's decided to sue OP for the cost they had to pay the painters to paint OP's house, so they already outed themselves, haha. That was the final update, unfortunately.
13:02 paint their house yellow, since there gone lmao
Hi-vis fluoro yellow FTW!
If someone abandons their kid on your porch, rest assured that it won't be the last time. Call the cops and REPORT it IMMEDIATELY! THEY will find the mom and explain how inappropriate this course of action is.
S4. OP is TA. She should have called the police the first day she left her son there.
Cooking story. I love cooking but I don't like cooking for myself. Personally, I would have taken OP up on the cooking deal.
The yellow gray house situation is in America. You can sue them civil for the price of getting the house repainted and the color you want.
Plus I think you might have to have the grey painted over white first if it's dark enough so your shade of yellow comes out right. You don't want it to be dingy or fade over time to dingy. That's an extra cost.
Story 5: How would I react? I'd charge $50/hour and do it. I'm already cooking anyway so why not make it free for me.
IKR!!!
Exactly he wasn’t wrong to ask. He messed up when he didn’t take the original no.
That guy who wanted better meals even though they can't cook does have options. I can't cook either. Plus I was in a car accident then found out I had cancer while raising a child with Autism. I got a crockpot, found easy dump & go meal recipes, and meal prepped. On days that don't hurt as much, I dumped food into zip loc bags and froze them. Then each morning I dropped the bag in the crockpot, spend the day doing appointments and/or therapies (aqua/physical, etc), then a hot dinner would be waiting.
The repainted house, of course the neighbors could be sued. What they did was commit fraud. And the company would be liable, too, because they obviously didn't check to make sure the homeowners ownef the home. OP wasn't available to ask so cops are off the hook.
That the OP couldn't find an attorney who would point this out in a free consultation and take up the case because it's easy money makes me suspect this is a fake story.
Or a crap neighborhood
@@nancyomalley6286 A crap neighborhood where the neighbors have thousands of bucks in cash to pay to repaint someone's house? Really odd area.
@@tgbedini It's a commonality in my homeland. We call them cashed up bogans.
OP, who asked his neighbor to cook for him.
I asked a co-worker if I gave her money would she & her bf cook extra for me. She gave me a funny look & said, "No." That was the end of that subject between us.
I’m sorry, anyone just dropping their kid off at someone’s home is irresponsible and unfit to be a parent. You gotta call CPS because that’s not a good situation for a child to be in.
That kind of entitlement could lead to her kid being dropped off at a short-eyed person's home-even more grounds for child endangerment.
How much is he offering me to cook when I'm already cooking
Adding 1 more portion to what you are already doing is not even extra work
I would cook for someone if they offered me money to just make extra of what I’m already cooking. I do it for free now anyways for my kid and hubby.
Agreed
Last story: it depends on how much someone is offering to pay me to cook for them…..like I have no issue cooking for people… but a little extra money always helps 😂
Exactly! Good way to get your groceries partially paid for!
Agreed
The harm to the yellow house is that it's no longer yellow. That is the damages.
Story 4 I would have called the cops the second time it happened
F neighborly duty to babysit her kid. That’s child abandonment call CPS.
I don't feel it is completely out of line to ask the neighbour once, but doing it again takes it to outrageous audacity.
You don't need to get a job outside your home. You need to call CPS when the kid shows up next time.
I feel like people would view the last story differently if it wasn't a Man asking a Woman. Personally if I (M) was in the woman's shoes I'd gladly take the money to make a slightly larger portion, I'm guessing the guy offered a decent amount per meal so it'd mean that I'd end up paying out of pocket less per meal even if I had to make a bit more.
If the guy said anything negative to her or even if he looked angry or aggressive towards her declining him then he'd suck for making her feel wrong for saying no, but the way I read it was that he's simply upset and doesn't really understand why she wouldn't help.
We have very sexist double standards in our society.
Amazing that it took multiple incidents of child abandonment before OP even considered calling CPS.
The repainted house, take the company to court, if it's thrown out of court, paint their house random colors, and if they get mad, remind them that they did it to someone else's house without permission.
I totally agree with you.
Indeed. Turnabout is fair play.
Yups
OP should pay to repaint the house and then take the neighbors to court for the cost to repaint and court fees.
In Story 4, the second time it's time to call police about an abandoned child.
Story 4 OP makes me so angry! The first time that woman abandoned her child, CPS should have been called.
If someone offered to pay me to cook for them, I'd absolutely do it. Money is money.
Exactly. Could be a budding business. In fact, there are businesses like this already.
Story 3, I would repaint my house NEON GREEN AND SHOCKING PINK on alternate walls. If they didn't like my house before...
I used to cook for new grads at one place I worked. I loved it! They would bring over groceries, and my young daughter and I would eat, basically, for free. It wasn't every day, but I enjoyed feeding the new guys I worked with. They were like my kids. They didn't always eat at my house. Sometimes, they would pick it up and eat while they studied.
I would have called CPS after the second or third time the kid was left at my place.
I love to cook when home, and my neighbor has paid me to cook a few meals for them on occasion. I'll make a big pot of something that will leave them with leftovers, & isn't too time-consuming to make. And I also share desserts with them when I have extra. That being said, if "Katie" said no to the offer, then OP needs to figure something else out. Maybe Katie meal preps, so she cooks a big batch of something to eat throughout the week.
On that last story: It's hard to believe that this guy was so completely inept at cooking. If he can make instant mac & cheese there's a lot of other (more healthy) meals he could easily make for himself. But, I'm a lucky guy as my mom was a terrible cook, and I taught myself to cook in self-defense! 😂 Sounds like mommy did everything for this a-hole, instead of teaching him to take care of himself
Boiling potatoes is a no-brainer. Washed potatoes in a pot filled with water, high heat for 35 minutes, done.
Home economics class should be mandatory.
Yellow or at least yellowy plaster for the houses in my area is actually fairly common, certainly I have never felt the need to go to war over colour with anyone over anything other than my birthday cake.
Story 3: No damage to the house?! Glad to know graffiti isn't vandalism. As far as I'm concerned this is no different than if someone had spraypainted OPs house with street art.
If I was in OP's shoes, I'd break out the spray paint and cover the house with all relevant hate symbols including the manji that the Big H appropriated, along with things like "KAREN LIVES HERE" or "BEWARE OF KAREN".
I just talked with a friend of mine who does home construction. He said, and I quote: "That's very illegal but would not be the fault of the painting company. I don't normally ask who owns a home. Not many people in the country would pay those types of figures as a spiteful act." He went on to say, and I quote, "Nothing for the cops to do, not a red flag in sight, that's why they painted it. Best that CAN happen is that the idiot neighbors gave their real name and it can be dealt with in court. Likely there's no criminal standing, they'll have to pay to have it painted back the way it was."
So there you have it from a professional.
I could see a case like this on _Judge Judy._
This is weird. I've never gone to a painter to hire them to paint a house I lived in. I call them and they come to my house to look at what needs to be painted and write up an estimate. It seems they should have been suspicious that these people came to them to hire them.
The cooking story: Forget all the creepy vibes this woman is getting from him. Let's just look at the logistics of his request. Besides having to buy and take the time to cook extra food for this neighbor she barely knows, what happens if she goes out for dinner? She would have to let him know when she is or isn't home ALL THE TIME! She's not free to what she wants when she wants, unless this guy knows about it in advance. It's an invasion of her privacy. He needs to figure out cook for himself.
I agree on both of your thoughts. And as I note, the painters would charge several thousand to paint an entire home exterior, and they walked in with cash, and there were no questions? I smell barnyard.
@@tgbedini A lot of these types of businesses offer a discount if you pay in cash. I always refuse because I'm convinced they're just trying to get around having to report it to the IRS, and I'm not going to help them do that. They found a painter that would take cash and not ask questions. How did they even know how much it would cost?
Someone in the comments said that an update stated that the neighbors tried to make OP pay them back the money they spent to paint the house. So, hopefully OP got them to pay to repaint it back to the color OP wanted.
@@rebekah.2187 When you pay by card, the card company takes about 3% of the cost. So, would you like whole dollars, or .97 dollars for your business? Credit is convenient, but it enriches banks at the cost of businesses.
@@tgbediniOr you could pay by check.
Omg! F that! Lady, you did NOT do everything to prevent it! Third time you shouldve called the cops AND CPS! At the very least!
"Hello, 911? It's my neighbors, their house is... yellow! Send everyone, the police, SWAT teams, the National Guard, the Navy, and Santa Claus!"
12:36 bull, They ruined the exterior yellow paint by doing the job, Any customer could simply show their I.D to show proof of residence, and they didn't even check that they were the.Owner, so actually they could be sued easily.
Story 5: The lady said no. She doesn't have to explain. But if that were me, I wouldn't want to be expected to have someone's meal ready every day at a specific time. Never be able to spontaneously stop for dinner or go to a movie or do anything else on a whim? No, thank you, NO!
The third\title story, the OP was harmed. Their house was painted without their permission.
I would have to think that the OP can sue their neighbor. Especially with the evidence gathered from the other neighbor.
I think I've seen this story elsewhere. The crazy couple eventually demanded that OP reimburse them for the cost of painting her house. They sent a written demand for payment. 🤣🤣🤣 With that proof of their unsanctioned actions, OP promptly sued them. Funny enough she hired the same company to repaint her house because she was happy with the quality of the job.
@@fdm2155 I thought that it sounded familiar.
One would think that in this day und age. That service companies would be more cautious.
Forced babysitter: call CPS.
Story 5:
It's completely fine to ask. If he really didn't push any more, I don't see anything wrong with his behavior.
Am I taking crazy pills? The comments and the speaker here acts like he insisted she has to.
I mean I hope he apologized in the end when he recognized he was making her uncomfortable, and yeah he should definitely keep his distance now, but why are you putting words in his mouth?
Story 3: The company DID NOT have a valid work order as the one's who made the order/paid WERE NOT RESIDENTS OR OWNERS OF THAT HOUSE, something the painting company is supposed to check prior to starting (every company I've used has required paperwork proving I have the authority to alter the house). OP should have legal recourse to get their house repainted to the original yellow color for free, as the company DID vandalize the house.
Story 4: The solution is to tell her that if she leaves the child at your house that you will be calling the cops for child abandonment and then following through on the threat. She was told REPEATEDLY that OP was not a babysitter and to stop leaving her child there.
For the last story, the better thing would've been to say "hi, sorry to bother you, this might be weird but i was wondering if i could have the recipe to whatever you've been cooking? It smells incredible and I'm trying to get better at cooking."
It's a lot less weird, and if she says no, accept the bloody no
Plus, there are plenty of recipes on the Internet to look up for cooking. Home economics classes should be mandatory!
Story 5. Rather than pester his neighbor to cook extra for him and come across as a lazy bum, maybe he should've done this:
Approach the neighbor and ask "Look, I can't keep eating take out and boxed mac n' cheese. Can you teach me how to cook healthy stuff? I'll compensate you for your time and materials."
And if rejected, graciously say ok and find other avenues to increase his cooking skills.
This is seriously a failure of his parents for failing to teach him a valuable life skill to cook. Everyone should learn this skill, as cooking your own food is far cheaper than eating out every night.
My mom required each of her sons to learn how to cook one dish. "Art" became the family apple pie baker. "Bob" stuck to Caesar salad. Art eventually married and did all the cooking in his home every Sunday, including upside-down yeast cinnamon rolls (the gooey kind) for breakfast. Bob never married, and to this day he gets most of his meals at McDonald's.
OK to the comments that were read on the last story. Asking twice is not pestering nor is it entitled. Now anymore times would start putting it into those things. Yes it was weird that OP didn't even try to get to know the woman first. But just asking isn't a bad thing. It is the demanding that is bad. And OP didn't demand anything.
Agreed. Also, someone entrepreneurial could see a budding business out of this.
The only thing I can suggest about the house painting is to dig out the court papers, talk to your lawyer and sue both the neighbours and the painting company for damages
For the last story, I don't think asking once was bad or entitled. That can be normal enough. When the answer is no, it's time to move on. It's the reaction of complaining and trying to make her out as the bad person that makes it all negative.
Absolutely. Has the meaning of "no" been lost on the Yanks?
That neighbor is crazy for taking care of that kid. I would have said the very first day, the next time you do this I will be calling the cops and telling them you abandoned your kid and having him taken away from you and if you don't think I'll do it F-ing TRY ME!!!
Cooking for more than 1 person isn’t as easy as OP assumes it is. You need to factor in purchasing ingredients, storage, preparation, etc. Also it’s possible that her pots and pans and other cooking and baking equipment are only suitable for a single person. I’m thinking he should have just asked her if she wouldn’t mind sharing her recipes and use that as a starting point for learning to cook for himself.
That is a great way to start something. And include the single older man. Maybe turn it into all three cooking for each other ones or twice a week. NOT make it a planned thing, just a "I will be cooking X tomorrow, would you also like some? It's a dish much easier to make a lot of."
3:03 Me: Lady, I don't care about your kids. Get out or get thrown out.
Last story...
I'm a single mother.
If one of my neighbors approached me with the same request, offering to pay, and was respectful id cook for him.
Wouldn't be the first time, probably won't be the last.
He's trying to be healthier and cost effective.
At least he knows his weak points (no cooking skills).
She, and by default a bunch of you, have overreacted to a request that for many decades would have been normal.
People have become incredibly selfish and self-centered.
People used to care about their neighbors.
He's NTA.
But a lot of you could use a good look at compassion.
If he was asking her to do it for free I could agree.
He's not.
Maybe he also thought the extra cash income would be a benefit.
Maybe he'd be willing to split shopping duties and fees as well.
Ask questions before assuming the worst.
I completely agree, it hurts to see how heartless people have become.
I would also consider the offer and get to know the neighbor a bit more. Who knows- he could come in handy at some point if you’re in need of something he could do. Mostly tho if I cook extra or have leftovers I save it for lunch the next day. But being able to plan accordingly would help if sharing with someone
NO is NO. His persistance gave me the creeps, too, because I was starting to feel like he was stalking her with his repeated requests.
If they were friends or even good acquaintances, maybe. But saying hi to someone in the hallway does not a relationship make. They don’t know each other.
@@PuppyKatt asking repeatedly is not in and of itself stalkers behavior.
Maybe he was hoping she'd change her mind.
Again, he was offering payment not requesting free services or groceries
Step one...find the three ugliest shades of paint you can. Step two...paint pokedots all over your grey house.step three...when neighbors come over tell them how grateful you are for their generosity and you will be certain to return the favor. Afterall, the neighborhood just doesn't feel the same without a yellow house, and you are more than happy to fix that problem.
Contrast purple or electric pink with bright green. It is said that those colours should never be seen together.
Story 2: Anyone seen "Rosemary's Baby"?
call the painting company back and tell them you want to paint your house the brightest yellow they have.
Story 4: OP should figure out how much salary she would have earned at the library if she had interviewed and got the job. Not how much per hour or per year, but how much over her entire career. And then sue Karen for THAT amount. Probably somewhere in the low 7 digits.
And yes, she should have called police. And she should have decked Karen.
For the person who had her house painted, I would sue for identity theft. The two neighbors signed a contract using your name. That's identity theft. Don't stop until you get them to paint your house yellow again!
Story 2: This is why I'd rather live in apartments... no yard for neighbors to trespass.
Or a house with neighbors that actually understand signs and warnings. 🤦🏼♀️
OP should have called the cops the first time that someone opened his gate without his permission.
Story 4:
Make the woman pay for your babysitter duties.
There you go.
Also, child abandonment is ILLEGAL!
I would have called the police and cps the second time the kid showed up on my porch
Are there specific requirements to reporting an abusive mother and/or abandoned child? OP told Karen she wouldn't be there, Karen left her child on OP's porch anyway, the child was alone for 3 hours, all because Karen "couldn't find anyone else." That's willful abandonment. Based on how this story ended, I'm guessing she never tried to find anyone else. And if that incident wasn't enough to call the authorities, how do you not call them after Karen follows you and leaves her child in your car? If anything, wouldn't there be a way to reach out to Karen's husband sooner? How much money was he "paying the babysitter" and what was Karen doing with all of that money?
Yellow house: Best revenge would be to pretend you didn't notice.
Story 4, her "neighbourly duty" was to inform the authorities about child abandonment. It was well past time to call CPS when he was left alone for 3 hours during the doctor appointment.
Re: The house painting story. Hell YES I'd have their house painted when they were gone. And I'd have it painted the exact shade of yellow they detested on OP's house.
And added a coating that makes any other paint slide off. It's expensive, but worth it. It's used to discourage taggers. I don't remember what it's called.
story 4: i am not that patient, i would have called cps immediately on day 1.
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As far as the neighbor forcing OP to be her babysitter, I would've called CPS on the second BS attempt.