How Glenn Danzig brought songs into Samhain
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- How did Glenn Danzig bring new songs into his band Samhain? Pete "Damien" Marshall peels back the curtain and demystifies the process.
Thumbnail photo: Rehearsal/recording notes for NCF. Written by Glenn, Eerie & Damien. From the collection of Tony Hansel.
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I was in rosemarys babes, Eerie Von was my drummer. When glen had the first idea of samhain i used to drive eerie and we would pick up Glen and go back to Eerie Vons house and help glen flesh out some of the first songs.
And Jeff you know me. I was there
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Just by listening to what came after Glenn stopped working with the original line up of Danzig and Rick Rubin, you can kinda tell how he “writes” …I’ve always assumed he’s come into the room with a skeletal outline of a song, then guys kinda flesh it out in the recording process. Probably similar to how Springsteen, Bowie, Elton or any other “leader” of the band operates. If anything, I miss his work with Christ and Biscuits the most, there’s zero denying what those two brought to the table, listening to the other albums.
They brought so much to the table. Undeniable.
Though I personally miss Samhain and Misfits more than early Danzig, the rest of this comment is the best assessment of Danzig's relationship with his writing partners that I've ever read.
Pete Marshall is a down to earth good guy. Glen's ideas or not his style of guitar is top notch. thank you for the post.
Such an awesome dude. Truly. Thanks for watching!
I saw the full video a month ago , Any chance of releasing some of scanned documents you have ? I’d love to see what Glenn had in those notebooks. These Damien interviews are amazing.
Yes! I was thinking of doing a video and showing the docs at hi resolution. Kind of an extention of what was said here with additional commentary and hi res scans...
Def. gonna do this at somepoint... soon?
I still think John Christ had a lot to do with the first four Danzig albums after he left I never thought Danzig was as good
He was a secret weapon. The spice in the sauce.
Omg me either
Is that what it was
Like it does nothing for me
None of it
Black laden crown 2017 kicked ass tho🤘👍
@@hollowpoint3188 Didn't click for me..
@@Frumess depends if you actually bought the album cause when they posted the album online for some reason the songs were out of order I first saw it online what'd very fond of it neither till I saw the actual album
To Walk The Night is the best Samhain song. For me at least.
Phenomenal track. One of my favorites as well.
Aight but what abt The Howl
@@singn9082 the howl is awesome. Especially the last 30 seconds
The Shift is my favorite. To Walk the Night is my second favorite.
He's a general contractor lol
🤣
Perfect way to describe it too
These interviews with Damien are awesome...
Thank you man, glad you dig!
I wonder what Alice Cooper song is being "ripped"? I'm a huge Alice fan, especially the obscure stuff.
It aint no mystery, GD writes and arranges most of the stuff, shows the musicians how he wants the songs to go, they add their style and maybe in the process comes up with something that he likes and they add it to the song. I know that Rubin was helped arrange Mother, but since GD wrote the parts, he gets the writing credits. Its quite common in bands were one guy is the main source for songwriting/composing/arranging the stuff. I did it alot in my old band.
Mother used to be a punk song.
@@Frumess Absolutely , would love to hear the original arr and sound.
@@jrkchannel37 I bet recordings exist somewhere..
@@Frumess often wonder how it sounds and expect I would prefer it, just recently heard night of hate which was what I wanted from lost tracks in 1 song.
@@jamesgreen6648 I think I'd prefer it too.
Off topic; but why does nobody ever talk about how DANZIG became a very much lesser quality/energy project after Chuck Buscuits left. Chuck was at least 1/2 that band, IMHO
People talk about that all the time - it's beyond obvious and true. That original line up was FIRE. And they wouldn't get that gusto back until Todd Youth and Howie Pyro joined the band. The current line up of Danzig is tight and stable!
danzig kept changing his sound. he never really capitalized on the success of mother. danzig 4 is great but a departure from the other 3 and danzig 5 is like wtf.
@@mramos1126
The WORST thing Glenn did was let go of his OG lineup... especially Chuck and John.
And the fact that they left just as the band was riding the wave made by "Mother"
could not have been worse timing. If anything, Glenn should have been
bending over backwards to see to it that he kept that roster of band mates...
at least for another 2 records.
@@VredesStall GD wanted to move to a other area in the music and JC & EV didnt like the way it was going . On 4P Glenn plays alot of guitar because he wanted it in another way than what JC could play. Glenn is a old punk and JC a trained classic rock guy, it was bound to happen. Glad GD soldiered on , cus he has made great tracks since. But not what classic rockers like.
Human Pony Girl
Giddy-up!
When Danzig canned Damien and hired the heavy metal guy, to me that was the death of Samhain. But Glenn wanted to jump on the KNAC metal payday train that was ever so popular back in the late 80s. Many bands did this: Suicidal Tendencies, Corrosion Of Conformity, etc.
Fun short chat.
That's how it goes
Actors, editors, directors, etc have input on movie scripts, adlibs, how the lines are delivered, which scenes make the cut...but they don't get writing or screenplay credits
I have to admit..I don't even know who you guys are.... But I love Glenn.... And Samhains' version of Twist of Cain ... Is a thousand times better than what they did with DANZIG! But....I wasn't ready for the original until maybe five years ago....
Well, I'm just a guy on the internet who likes to talk alot. The other guy is Damien, the guitarist of Samhain.
Alice Cooper rip-off? Which song? Haha, I always thought Twist of Cain sounded like that riff in "In My Time of Dying" by Led Zeppelin.
I should have asked him.
That’d make sense, seeing as how it’s basically their version of the hunter he “wrote”/covered for that record.
@@allhell138 “The Hunter” is by Blue Cheer, not Zeppelin.
Danzig shit on Sex Type Thing for being a rip-off of Snakes of Christ, but that riff has been used in countless songs including The Best is Yet to Come by Sinatra. Sometimes people come up with the same stuff.
I wonder why he never shit on Metallica for using it in Thorn Within...
Its on/in the Zep song How Many More Times on the first Zep album.
@@LPCContentManager
BOUGHT FROM?
He's just like WEIRD AL YANKOVIC. He'll use the same music, yet only the lyrics is changed.
Sowinn. Even the Bandmembers pronounce their own room name wrong. I love misfits samhain Danzig but they were pronouncing it wrong how stupid are they
You guys sound like haters.
Not at all. Completely the opposite.
Do you hate it? Or do you love to drink beer and want to wish you you never lost that Frankie Hill bulldog complete? Compiesh? Or maybe that bmx that is now worth 2-6 grand. Nostalgia is Nostalgic.
Danzig is the James brown of punk/metal, at least in how expects everyone to conform and participate. Leaders lead lol
I didn't know that about James Brown, he is a bit of a blind spot in my musical knowledge.
Being in a band is rarely an exercise in democracy. Sometimes that works, but most times the writing centers around a certain member (like Glenn), or a writing team (like Halford, Downing & Tipton
Even when it is a "democracy" many times it is not.
Exactly
In my experience (40yrs of rock/punk bands) the more egalitarian the songwriting process the worse it will be. An inspired primary writer with one other person on the same wavelength, but one who is not a driven or inspired writer, rather one who can compliment sparingly is the best bet.
Dave Wydorf of MM would never have created all those great tunes with 4 other members having equal input; same with Glenn.
@@MedicineWolf There are rare instances of bands where everyone contributes songs of good quality----Soundgarden was one, Teenage Fanclub another.
Agreed. Ships don't operate well without a captain. Look what happened to Metallica when James gave someone else control.
I'm always absolutely fascinated to hear how Glenn worked out the songs. This is worth more than gold.
Samhain made me feel it was okay to explore my darkness.
That's beautiful, man.
There is an interview with him admitting the guitars on Samhain weren't his. He says "that was all him, I couldn't play that stuff""
He was referring to the guitar parts on Halloween II.
Any guesstimate on when you're documentary will be released?..
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Danzig is Eddie Wilson?😂😂😂
Possibly?