This video is why the Misfits are my number 1 punk band. They're a one-stop-shop for punk rock history. If I'm in the mood for that "70's New York art-punk sound" then I spin Legacy of Brutality( I like the echo atmosphere more than Static age). For classic early 80s snare poppin punk: Walk Among Us. Hardcore/thrash kinda mood: Earth A.D. Then you have the collections which fill in the gaps. Such a deal!!! The same goes for Samhain. Glenn did the same thing for the whole deathrock scene. Genius!!!
@@Frumess Thanks. Initium is my go-to album for that early 80's West Coast deathrock sound. Weird since the Misfits were still going strong during that scene ( though the first version of Halloween II hinted at what was to come). For a more UK goth vibe, there's November Coming Fire ( my personal fave). Final Descent is a perfect goth-metal album ahead of its time. Glenn's talent isn't just singing and songwriting but his ability to tune into and capture the zeitgeist of any genre and give it back in spades. It's uncanny!
The album makes more sense on audio cassette. One side is Earth AD, the other Wolf’s Blood. It feels like two EP’s or a concept album where each side is it’s own unique bent.
I've always considered the Earth A.D. song Bloodfeast to be the bridge to Samhain. About 30 years ago I would get the DJ at a 'alternative/goth' club I used to go to play it because it was a very deathrock sounding song and fitted in with the rest of the music played. It makes sense that Glenn was going to originally use it in Samhain. It's my favourite Misfits song.
Def. a bridge and a great track. I wish we could hear its original arrangement. I am sure it is not too far off from what was on EAD, but I bet it was still different.
The song that grabbed me the most is Bloodfeast because it's so spooky. Deathrock style and the backing vocals sound like ghouls, y'know? Also do you happen to like Roky Erickson? I think he had a horror rock thing for sure
According to Glenn he didn't want to use SPOT, Jerry & Doyle did.. Jerry claims the Earth AD we got is not how he wanted or how the album sounded after it was recorded and Glenn claims it doesn't sound like how he wanted and Jerry, Doyle and Spot are responsible for how it sounds!. Who knows, but I'd love to hear some sort of alternate version of it, but those masters im sure are lost/destroyed!?.. I don't think Glenn wanted the album played at that speed or the band to speed up live, like they did when Robo joined!.. The Misfits were so much better live before they sped up and the "on broadway" bootleg is a perfect example and isn't the sloppy wall of noise that the band became when Robo joined, but Glenn claims it was Jerry & Doyle who were speeding the songs up!.. Samhain was a far slower paced band (and better live) than the later Misfits!.
Funny coming across this now because I posted something on a different one of your videos a couple days ago that mirrors a lot of these sentiments. EAD is definitely my least favorite release and while I think Robo’s playing has a lot to do with it (not just the lightning speed, the time keeping in general-listen to how much those chorus tags drag in the opening track), it’s not the full picture though. Part of it is the songs themselves, and part of it is the execution of them. Nothing wrong with fast songs but when they’re so fast that the greatest vocalist in punk rock can’t be distinguished from every other punk band of that era, it’s a bummer to me. The Elvis-like vocals are a huge part of what made The Misfits special and memorable to me, as are the catchy sing along choruses, and on this record it felt like they were trying to be status quo rather than the pioneers that they really were (IMO). On the plus side, I think the record actually has the best guitar sound out of any of them. It’s more up front as opposed to being buried in the back, and I always preferred Doyle’s tone over Bobby’s (playing ability aside), but Glenn, in addition to having to rush through the vocal parts, also is drowned out sonically and can barely be heard. I think the album would have benefitted more from having the vocals be more present in the mix. I also think it would have benefitted from having literally any other Misfits drummer, which especially holds true for their live shows at the time. Again, it’s not all Robo’s fault they went “fast”, look at ‘Mommy’ from WAU and a few others from that time. But I do think Robo took something that was already a bit of a drastic change and dialed it up to 11 right off the bat, which to me was just too far in the wrong direction. Even the older material suffered from this once he joined. I physically can’t listen to them do 138 with him on drums, but I take no joy in saying any of this. As for the production of the album and the notion that nobody in the band wound up being happy with it, which I’ve also heard, it probably has to do with what’s mentioned here. The band recording the music supposedly without Glenn’s input which apparently displeased Glenn, then him going back and editing stuff to be more along the lines of what he had in mind, which displeased the rest of the guys because it’s not an accurate representation of what they recorded. At the end of the day it seems like they wound up somewhere in the middle and nobody ultimately got what they were looking for as a result. Anyway, I appreciate and enjoy having a forum where we can discuss this stuff, which is super interesting to me. Hope you keep doing these
Glenn was fed up with the Ciafas. He loved Doyle, who was his muse. But he had Jerry messing with the music, and the other brother dealing with the tours. He felt cornered. The last show he lashed out like the little wolf he is. That is when he became the where wolf. He wore the mask to cover the changes to his face. He had fangs. Big carnivore teeth. It was the shift. And he said Samhain was born. That night.
Not the catchiest anything by them but easily my favorite album from them! I do half my workout to it and it destroyed hardcore by a country mile! I heard that Glenn didn't particularly care for it but I loved all facets of this album! Their magnum opus! 🔥🔥🔥
"BloodFeast" reminds me of SAMHAIN big time. EARTH AD (Like Every Misfits Albums) is a Masterpiece. Misfits is like a journey, Something for everybody, Does Earth AD sound like Static Age hell no but enjoy the ride. I love every Misfits 12" Albums (Static Age, Beware, Walk Among Us, Earth AD, Legacy of Brutally). Some people were turned off by Samhain but again I love Samhain. You go from the fast speed of EAD to Initium and it's like night n day. What a band, What a journey.
Archangel reminds me of 77 She and Cough/Cool in sound and spirit. Wish they'd have experimented with that type of sound more often. Those songs are so special and atmospheric.
that danzig was able to wring melodies out of music that is so fast and brutal is really something. As a kid, all the songs were the same to me, though now I can see the stylistic differences between the earlier and later stuff
I was just playing multiple Misfits bootleg live recordings in a row on here. The songs they had played live were: Earth A.D, Queen Wasp, Devilock, Demonomania, Wolf's Blood , Green Hell ( once), plus Mommy and We Bite during that session of course. So by process of elimination it's Hellhound, and what we already knew as far as Death Comes Ripping- and Bloodfeast. So that's only three extra songs. Unless Green was shown to them and they played it one show- which I think was the Santa Monica Civic in which case they would have already recorded Earth A.D. so that would make sense.
Great detective work. But the missing piece is we don't know if/when Glenn had begun working out Samhain songs... it's possible too that he intended on a ep and then made it a double by adding the rest of his song stash? Only Glenn knows...
@@Frumess true. He did write Archangel a few years before Samhain, and that wasn't for Samhain, nor the Misfits. Who knows but him how many songs he had lying around that he didn't even have a plan for. Also, i don't know what I was thinking; Misfits played Green Hell live a few times, not just that last show.
I understand Glenns frustrations toward how the album turned out. He wanted it fast but with groove - like a motorhead misfits record. Kind if D-Beat i guess. Apparently the guys couldnt pull it off. The band played too fast. Personally I like it chaotic but i get why he was pissed. It was NOT the vision. Ironically they play it all fast now anyway. You KNOW Dave Lombardo can do what Glenn originally wanted. Oh well.
@Andrew Hollingshead I believe Dave sat on it and didn't use it until The Damned was having one of the normal "hiatus' " they would have every few years and recorded it during his Phantom Chords project
@@aaronstepien2363 I don't think Dave ever recorded it, or if he did, it wasn't released. He went to Jerry's garage to go through it several times is what I read.
13:34 - I always thought of "All Murder, All Guts, all Fun" as in the same wheelhouse as "Brain Eaters" - they both speak to the comical and light-hearted side of Glenn's dark nature.
I would just say hardcore influenced earth AD . I think I remember kata calling that stuff horror core. I don't think it has goofy metal influence. I think it was just the next stage to go faster . Many of those punk rock bands like the dead Kennedys sped their music up from what it was. People seem to forget the term thrash when applied to music was a eterna for hardvore punk before im t had anything to do with metal. Again the dead Kennedys second album was referred to as that bad brains were called that and many of the second wave hardcore bands with initials were called that- it was a term for just playing extremely fast which was mostly associated with hardcore punk at the time. I call Earth AD a death thrash album ( I'm not speaking of that term with a metal mentality either bands like Kreator and slayer) but there are other bands of hardcore I would put into the horrorcore /death thrash catagory. Many of them misfits fans as well. Those bands are septic death, negative gain, and YDi they all had similar horror like themes and played extremely fast hardcore music
I like this video. I don't put as much thought as you do into this. Earth AD was not a favorite album of mine when it came out and I still don't listen to it that much. The samhain stuff that came after I still wasn't a big fan of. I was confused by the time the first Danzig album came out... But I was still just the kid going through what kids go through.... And that first Danzig album made me change my opinion about music. You couldn't slam dance to it but it was still just as raw and powerful as anything before. It was recorded beautifully and it was well done with musicians that had chops. Glenn's journey on making music has helped me open my mind to things I necessarily wouldn't have opened my mind to back in those days because I was hardcore punk all the time. I appreciate Glenn for not being pigeonholed into what other people allow themselves to be. For lack of a better example, I think Glenn wasn't going to allow himself to be the Ramones for the rest of his life. I got a lot of respect for that. I'm a musician myself and as I've grown up and grown my music has not stayed in one genre or the same. It's fun to do something different. No matter what style of music you play as long as you're honest that's what counts.
@@Frumess robo's style of drumming is 100 times more aggressive than anyone else that ever occupied the seat. as a result the music was driven much harder.
What? It's recorded like shit. It could have been a 10,000X better record with better production, vocals mixed properly etc.. As it is, Spot's production is barely passable and just makes me try to image how much better it could have sounded with a more capable engineer.
As far as the extra 4 more songs initially intended for Samhain, I'm not able to VERIFY the validity of that however I don't have any doubts about it because I have been a long time fan of Danzig in general.
I love thd totally distorted aggro sound of "Earth A.D.". Danzig though spent the 80s and most of the 90s slagging the album. From what I remember he thought the songs were way too fast and too much like the " Hardcore thrash" sound that was huge in 82-83. Also hd thought Misfits should be ahead of the times not part of them. Enjoy seeing these rare interviews and footage.
Not sure if this has already been addressed, but when you are talking about samhain the song being played fast, you can hear and see that exact fast tempo on the vhs live arena show (samhain box set), it’s brutal
Broski!! I found final descent I'd a used CD store. I've read GD sez that LP was done with a drum mschine. I was NO schwayy! Then you listen to Lords OT lefthand and ur "right on"
Nah, sounded more like Iron maiden. It's actually cool for what it is IMO. It's a shame Jerry and Doyle don't want to put it out. Like why the fuck not? I'd definitely buy a copy! I had the 5 song cd when I was a kid. If you look online, a few people have the full unreleased album. Ain't nothing like the Misfits, but it's cool power metal.
Hey does anyone have any info on recent releases of Earth AD being 45 rpm as opposed to 33rpm!? Someone claimed they got one- I want one! But if that's true I'm wondering if there's a way to determine this before buying any random new pressing of EAD.
Found the listing on Discogs! Came out last year. There's no way to really tell until it's opened. Messaged every seller on Discogs to make sure- verified after opening. Didn't want to buy a bunch only to realize it's not 45 rpm.
I worked for them for many years. Hardcare became trendy so thats the way whey went. They broke up about a year before the album came out. Robot did a different kind of drumming
I can see those Earth AD songs as Samhain. Hellhound slowed down by half with more nuanced tribal beats- it would sound like the Howl. Same with Death Comes Ripping- play it at the Howl speed and there you go. Samhain to Earth AD? Take out the drums and replace them with faster, less nuanced Robo drums. The guitars by default become more straightforward and less nuanced by having to speed up and match the drums. Eerie said Mother originally used to be fast. Imagine that! Lastly Lord's of the Left hand- the two different versions. The speed and the drum rhythm difference between the two really showcase how different a song can sound just by changing drums.
You described this so perfectly that I could hear it in my head! Thank you. I would be so floored to hear some demo or taped practice with Mother sped up. Always been a huge fan of the original Lords of the Lefthand.
@@Frumess NICE! Challenge accepted! In the meantime, here's the only song I've done for it so far - let me know what you think. Definitely Misfits/Samhain worship! ruclips.net/video/VhLNAoSQzNE/видео.html
@@Frumess Planning on finishing this project this week. 17 songs - 10 from EarthAD/Die Die My Darling done in the style of Samhain's Initium and 7 from Initium done in the style of Misfits EarthAD. The only ones I left off were the ones we've all heard both The Misfits and Samhain play before. I studied both albums to pick up on the details that make them different, and then I applied these to the opposite songs - so I kinda had to unlearn and relearn how to play these. Very interesting experience🤘 How the hell I'd be able to let anyone hear it without copyright strikes, I'm not sure (unless this would be an example of Fair Use), but I definitely want you to hear it when it's done - just in time for Halloween! Just let me know where to send it.
@@Frumess Here's my versions of All Murder All Guts All Fun and Earth AD from my project Initium Meets Earth AD - ruclips.net/video/kExJCKjHhYE/видео.html
I could imagine ALL the Samhain material on Earth A.D. The only difference between The Misfits and Samhain is the band. The Misfits were a wrecking ball, bullet train of a band from playing tons of live gigs where as Samhain was thrown together with whoever Glenn could find. I think he felt he could put his vocals over whatever he wanted and it would turn out killer... which is kinda true
Back in the 80s and 90s, Glenn slagged Earth AD pretty much non stop. The speed of the songs he really disliked the most. This paraphrased Glenn quote that i remembered sets the tone... "To me, the Misfits were always ahead of the times. On Earth AD we became the exact time when that album was recorded". I remember Glenn too was pissed at Metallica for choosing an Earth AD song for "Garage Days". I personally love the album but can do without Spot and his always sludgey production.
I like Earth A.D. it gets alot of flack. It was my introduction to the Misfits in 85. It's a noisy Hardcore Record. The thing about Earth A.D. the tape machine blew up according to SPOT. Then it got mixed elsewhere but I like the messy sound. It was written when Hardcore was a newer style and this is their attempt of doing a faster angrier record.
"Bloodfeast" being meant for Samhain absolutely rings true, imo. The others, not as much (tho I'm not implying they weren't). Archangel could never be on Earth A,D.
Earth AD is Glenn losing control of the band. Doyle was what 18 when they recorded it? He was a kid. He took Jerry's lead. Making everything faster and more distorted with their "wall of sound" Jerry has been quoted that he wanted everything fast like Motörhead. He liked Ace of Spades. They had no input on the lyrics or the writing of the songs so they seized control of how they are played and recorded. Which was shit. Fast, heavy, and distorted. I think if the band stayed together this recording would not have been the official release. Glenn release it after they broke up. It's all he had. Glenn has been quoted recently saying they have been talking about recording something with Doyle and Jerry. I'd love to hear them reboot this album. They should have recorded it with production like Walk Among Us. Maybe I'm wrong, but they probably recorded this for free.
Wow, spot on observation: He did lose control of the band with Earth A.D. I never thought about it in that kind of way. I like the way it sounds, but I would KILL for a remaster, that we will never get. Even more so: I'd love to hear what it sounded like before Glenn remixed it.
What is great about Earth AD is that Jerry and Doyle "Glenn proofed" it. There was no way Glenn could have re-done almost anything on that album. Maybe Bloodfeast. The guitars were too fast and hard for Glenn! Doyle really came into his own as a technician. The guitars were on a different level beyond Glenn's capability.
Uhh...Earth AD/Wolf's Blood is not exactly one of my favorites. It's in the middle of the pack. I like enough of the songs to buy it eventually, it's just not on the top of my wishlist. I enjoy Die Die My Darling, Green Hell, Devilock, Bloodfeast, Wolf's Blood, and Death Comes Ripping. I like Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight? But it'll never be among my tops.
your right about earth a.d.like an accidental train wreck .that was maybe a practice session before the real recording?always thought they were sloppy as fuck live.samhain had better live stuff then misfits.peak danzig live stuff was the tour for 1st danzig album.had alot of samhain lingering
But it can't be denied that they are so in sync with each other - complete alignment during the tracking of Earth A.D. as it was recorded live, and they are locked in perfectly.
You know what influenced the speed of EAD- SPEED! Isn't it we'll know the brothers were into that during the last days back then? Funny bc Motorhead being mentioned; Lemmy is on record saying how the Motorhead sound came due to use of speed( the reason he got kicked out of Hawkwind). Guess the same goes for the creation of EAD and why those guys were rolling and Glenn was " sleeping." I do prefer listening to those EAD * demo* pre- mix live recordings. However with today's technology, I'd think someone could take the EAD recordings and digitally re- master them( mess with the eq and get rid of background noise).
I see a lot of talk about this DIY mastering after the fact. It's true you can tweak little things etc. But you can't really do anything without masters and the individual tracks. Tech is getting better though and after the fact improvements can be made. But it's also like grinding up crackers into dust and using them to make dough and then baking bread with it. Not the same.
@@Frumess I heard, he said no one else said it like that, but Danzig, it's his band, his lyrics, his creation, it's sow-win not Sam-Hain. It doesn't sound better, it sounds like a rando name and like you're an ignorant poser.
There's nothing to be confused about it. It is the progression and metamorphosis of the Misfits which turns into the American hardcore era of 1980 and 83. They're simply talented and badass in every way. This podcast guy is a nerd!!!!
I would just say hardcore influenced earth AD . I think I remember kata calling that stuff horror core. I don't think it has goofy metal influence. I think it was just the next stage to go faster . Many of those punk rock bands like the dead Kennedys sped their music up from what it was. People seem to forget the term thrash when applied to music was a eterna for hardvore punk before im t had anything to do with metal. Again the dead Kennedys second album was referred to as that bad brains were called that and many of the second wave hardcore bands with initials were called that- it was a term for just playing extremely fast which was mostly associated with hardcore punk at the time. I call Earth AD a death thrash album ( I'm not speaking of that term with a metal mentality either bands like Kreator and slayer) but there are other bands of hardcore I would put into the horrorcore /death thrash catagory. Many of them misfits fans as well. Those bands are septic death, negative gain, and YDi they all had similar horror like themes and played extremely fast hardcore music btw earth AD is my fave misfits album.
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This video is why the Misfits are my number 1 punk band. They're a one-stop-shop for punk rock history. If I'm in the mood for that "70's New York art-punk sound" then I spin Legacy of Brutality( I like the echo atmosphere more than Static age). For classic early 80s snare poppin punk: Walk Among Us. Hardcore/thrash kinda mood: Earth A.D. Then you have the collections which fill in the gaps. Such a deal!!! The same goes for Samhain. Glenn did the same thing for the whole deathrock scene. Genius!!!
I would love to hear that same kind of break down for Samhain from your POV.
@@Frumess Thanks. Initium is my go-to album for that early 80's West Coast deathrock sound. Weird since the Misfits were still going strong during that scene ( though the first version of Halloween II hinted at what was to come). For a more UK goth vibe, there's November Coming Fire ( my personal fave). Final Descent is a perfect goth-metal album ahead of its time. Glenn's talent isn't just singing and songwriting but his ability to tune into and capture the zeitgeist of any genre and give it back in spades. It's uncanny!
@@davidburkholder5221 wow, that last sentence you wrote 🏆🏆🏆
@@davidburkholder5221 Well said!
Well thought out on both posts. 👏
Regardless of who, how or what.......Earth A.D. is an amazing album.
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I fucking love this album so much
I love Robo's drumming on Earth AD. His latin influence makes the drums almost sound like a hard core polka
Are you the same guy talking about Dave Lombardo's Latin influence on Reign in Blood? 🥴
@@hankworden3850 no but that makes total sense
@@stewartwilbanks4294 haha..I actually tried and find the comment...I was hoping it was you
I bought Earth A.D. on cassette in Queens in the summer of 1990 and I'm still not over it! One of the most ripping records ever
I am continually in awe of the entity that is Earth A.D. truly.
The album makes more sense on audio cassette. One side is Earth AD, the other Wolf’s Blood. It feels like two EP’s or a concept album where each side is it’s own unique bent.
It's totally sequenced for side 1 and side 2. As others have said, it really is a double EP more than an album.
I just wanna say I appreciate all the time you put in to document this incredible history that we all love. Good on ya, Jeff.
Thank you for watching and thank you for the comment!!!
I've always considered the Earth A.D. song Bloodfeast to be the bridge to Samhain. About 30 years ago I would get the DJ at a 'alternative/goth' club I used to go to play it because it was a very deathrock sounding song and fitted in with the rest of the music played. It makes sense that Glenn was going to originally use it in Samhain. It's my favourite Misfits song.
Def. a bridge and a great track. I wish we could hear its original arrangement. I am sure it is not too far off from what was on EAD, but I bet it was still different.
Bloodfeast is definitely the bridge. Amazing tune.
The book “American Hardcore; A Tribal History “, has a whole chapter on The Misfits. They talk about this. It’s a great book.
The author is in the documentary. Steve Blush is great.
The song that grabbed me the most is Bloodfeast because it's so spooky. Deathrock style and the backing vocals sound like ghouls, y'know? Also do you happen to like Roky Erickson? I think he had a horror rock thing for sure
Burn the flames! Roky rules. I'd love to hear a proper post punk deathrock Bloodfeast.
@Frumess. I’m a little late to the party on this one but the pushead interview done with Danzig I believe in 86 will answer some of these questions.
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According to Glenn he didn't want to use SPOT, Jerry & Doyle did.. Jerry claims the Earth AD we got is not how he wanted or how the album sounded after it was recorded and Glenn claims it doesn't sound like how he wanted and Jerry, Doyle and Spot are responsible for how it sounds!. Who knows, but I'd love to hear some sort of alternate version of it, but those masters im sure are lost/destroyed!?.. I don't think Glenn wanted the album played at that speed or the band to speed up live, like they did when Robo joined!.. The Misfits were so much better live before they sped up and the "on broadway" bootleg is a perfect example and isn't the sloppy wall of noise that the band became when Robo joined, but Glenn claims it was Jerry & Doyle who were speeding the songs up!.. Samhain was a far slower paced band (and better live) than the later Misfits!.
I wish the masters were around, we need a remix of that album.
Funny coming across this now because I posted something on a different one of your videos a couple days ago that mirrors a lot of these sentiments. EAD is definitely my least favorite release and while I think Robo’s playing has a lot to do with it (not just the lightning speed, the time keeping in general-listen to how much those chorus tags drag in the opening track), it’s not the full picture though. Part of it is the songs themselves, and part of it is the execution of them. Nothing wrong with fast songs but when they’re so fast that the greatest vocalist in punk rock can’t be distinguished from every other punk band of that era, it’s a bummer to me. The Elvis-like vocals are a huge part of what made The Misfits special and memorable to me, as are the catchy sing along choruses, and on this record it felt like they were trying to be status quo rather than the pioneers that they really were (IMO). On the plus side, I think the record actually has the best guitar sound out of any of them. It’s more up front as opposed to being buried in the back, and I always preferred Doyle’s tone over Bobby’s (playing ability aside), but Glenn, in addition to having to rush through the vocal parts, also is drowned out sonically and can barely be heard. I think the album would have benefitted more from having the vocals be more present in the mix. I also think it would have benefitted from having literally any other Misfits drummer, which especially holds true for their live shows at the time. Again, it’s not all Robo’s fault they went “fast”, look at ‘Mommy’ from WAU and a few others from that time. But I do think Robo took something that was already a bit of a drastic change and dialed it up to 11 right off the bat, which to me was just too far in the wrong direction. Even the older material suffered from this once he joined. I physically can’t listen to them do 138 with him on drums, but I take no joy in saying any of this.
As for the production of the album and the notion that nobody in the band wound up being happy with it, which I’ve also heard, it probably has to do with what’s mentioned here. The band recording the music supposedly without Glenn’s input which apparently displeased Glenn, then him going back and editing stuff to be more along the lines of what he had in mind, which displeased the rest of the guys because it’s not an accurate representation of what they recorded. At the end of the day it seems like they wound up somewhere in the middle and nobody ultimately got what they were looking for as a result.
Anyway, I appreciate and enjoy having a forum where we can discuss this stuff, which is super interesting to me. Hope you keep doing these
Glenn was fed up with the Ciafas. He loved Doyle, who was his muse. But he had Jerry messing with the music, and the other brother dealing with the tours. He felt cornered. The last show he lashed out like the little wolf he is. That is when he became the where wolf. He wore the mask to cover the changes to his face. He had fangs. Big carnivore teeth. It was the shift. And he said Samhain was born. That night.
@@daggerlove9304 Dude, werewolf
@@daggerlove9304 where wolf?
*Points in direction*
“There wolf!”
Not the catchiest anything by them but easily my favorite album from them! I do half my workout to it and it destroyed hardcore by a country mile! I heard that Glenn didn't particularly care for it but I loved all facets of this album! Their magnum opus! 🔥🔥🔥
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"BloodFeast" reminds me of SAMHAIN big time. EARTH AD (Like Every Misfits Albums) is a Masterpiece. Misfits is like a journey, Something for everybody, Does Earth AD sound like Static Age hell no but enjoy the ride. I love every Misfits 12" Albums (Static Age, Beware, Walk Among Us, Earth AD, Legacy of Brutally). Some people were turned off by Samhain but again I love Samhain. You go from the fast speed of EAD to Initium and it's like night n day. What a band, What a journey.
I like that... It's totally like a journey.
Earth A.D and venom welcome to hell and black metal were the biggest influences on thrash metal
Huge influences on what came after.
Discharge...hear nothing was even more of an influence.
Archangel reminds me of 77 She and Cough/Cool in sound and spirit. Wish they'd have experimented with that type of sound more often. Those songs are so special and atmospheric.
that danzig was able to wring melodies out of music that is so fast and brutal is really something. As a kid, all the songs were the same to me, though now I can see the stylistic differences between the earlier and later stuff
The lyrical phrasing and singing on those must have not been easy!
I was just playing multiple Misfits bootleg live recordings in a row on here. The songs they had played live were: Earth A.D, Queen Wasp, Devilock, Demonomania, Wolf's Blood , Green Hell ( once), plus Mommy and We Bite during that session of course. So by process of elimination it's Hellhound, and what we already knew as far as Death Comes Ripping- and Bloodfeast. So that's only three extra songs. Unless Green was shown to them and they played it one show- which I think was the Santa Monica Civic in which case they would have already recorded Earth A.D. so that would make sense.
Great detective work. But the missing piece is we don't know if/when Glenn had begun working out Samhain songs... it's possible too that he intended on a ep and then made it a double by adding the rest of his song stash? Only Glenn knows...
@@Frumess true. He did write Archangel a few years before Samhain, and that wasn't for Samhain, nor the Misfits. Who knows but him how many songs he had lying around that he didn't even have a plan for. Also, i don't know what I was thinking; Misfits played Green Hell live a few times, not just that last show.
@@cepolt totally correct. And there are most probably tons of various songs and song ideas that never made the grade.
I understand Glenns frustrations toward how the album turned out. He wanted it fast but with groove - like a motorhead misfits record. Kind if D-Beat i guess. Apparently the guys couldnt pull it off. The band played too fast.
Personally I like it chaotic but i get why he was pissed. It was NOT the vision.
Ironically they play it all fast now anyway. You KNOW Dave Lombardo can do what Glenn originally wanted. Oh well.
Thought Archangel was originally written for The Damned, think I've read it somewhere but I might be wrong
Yes,but for a Dave Vanian solo release.
I don't think he had Samhain in mind when he wrote that. I think it indeed was for a Damned song maybe?
@Andrew Hollingshead Archangel? I don't think he ever considered it for a misfits project. Jerry didn't write it, but he did play bass.
@Andrew Hollingshead I believe Dave sat on it and didn't use it until The Damned was having one of the normal "hiatus' " they would have every few years and recorded it during his Phantom Chords project
@@aaronstepien2363 I don't think Dave ever recorded it, or if he did, it wasn't released. He went to Jerry's garage to go through it several times is what I read.
"It sounded like fucking Motorhead on fuckin' speed" uhhhhmmmmm
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It's kind of like sitting at home watching old black and white horror movies with svengoolie and then going to the cinema and seeing the evil Dead
um, yes!
I feel like zombeast could do earth ad tracks as Samhain really well 😂
Yes they would do a great job. They understand this stuff enough that would take it seriously and wield the right sensibilities with the utmost care.
Awwww damn look who I’m bumping into on the interwebs! What’s up Rikk!
13:34 - I always thought of "All Murder, All Guts, all Fun" as in the same wheelhouse as "Brain Eaters" - they both speak to the comical and light-hearted side of Glenn's dark nature.
Glens on the instrumental tracking of Mommy for timing reference during the pause
Scratch vocal.
For me, this was their best effort and a great counter to the equally great and doom laden Samhain.
A lot of fans don't connect with Earth A.D. but I think it is a masterpiece.
I would just say hardcore influenced earth AD . I think I remember kata calling that stuff horror core. I don't think it has goofy metal influence. I think it was just the next stage to go faster . Many of those punk rock bands like the dead Kennedys sped their music up from what it was. People seem to forget the term thrash when applied to music was a eterna for hardvore punk before im t had anything to do with metal. Again the dead Kennedys second album was referred to as that bad brains were called that and many of the second wave hardcore bands with initials were called that- it was a term for just playing extremely fast which was mostly associated with hardcore punk at the time. I call Earth AD a death thrash album ( I'm not speaking of that term with a metal mentality either bands like Kreator and slayer) but there are other bands of hardcore I would put into the horrorcore /death thrash catagory. Many of them misfits fans as well. Those bands are septic death, negative gain, and YDi they all had similar horror like themes and played extremely fast hardcore music
Thank you for this thoughtful discourse🤘🎃
Loved this record on the first listen
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Glenn fell asleep and Jerry and Doyle stole one of his pies from the windowsill, too.
I like this video.
I don't put as much thought as you do into this.
Earth AD was not a favorite album of mine when it came out and I still don't listen to it that much.
The samhain stuff that came after I still wasn't a big fan of.
I was confused by the time the first Danzig album came out... But I was still just the kid going through what kids go through.... And that first Danzig album made me change my opinion about music.
You couldn't slam dance to it but it was still just as raw and powerful as anything before.
It was recorded beautifully and it was well done with musicians that had chops.
Glenn's journey on making music has helped me open my mind to things I necessarily wouldn't have opened my mind to back in those days because I was hardcore punk all the time.
I appreciate Glenn for not being pigeonholed into what other people allow themselves to be.
For lack of a better example, I think Glenn wasn't going to allow himself to be the Ramones for the rest of his life.
I got a lot of respect for that.
I'm a musician myself and as I've grown up and grown my music has not stayed in one genre or the same.
It's fun to do something different.
No matter what style of music you play as long as you're honest that's what counts.
Great take, John. And interesting observation about Danzig I: Not for slam dancing, but very raw and powerful.
robo and spot are why EARTH AD is superb.
A contributing factor, yes. But not the total reason. Actually, I think Jerry and Doyle and their penchant for heavy metal played a large part..
@@Frumess robo's style of drumming is 100 times more aggressive than anyone else that ever occupied the seat. as a result the music was driven much harder.
@@RavnerRavner Totally a factor. One of many.
What? It's recorded like shit. It could have been a 10,000X better record with better production, vocals mixed properly etc.. As it is, Spot's production is barely passable and just makes me try to image how much better it could have sounded with a more capable engineer.
Now you gotta interview Spot!
Oh man, I'd love that.
As far as the extra 4 more songs initially intended for Samhain, I'm not able to VERIFY the validity of that however I don't have any doubts about it because I have been a long time fan of Danzig in general.
Not a fan of Earth AD, but I'm more punk than metal. Maybe I should give it another listen tho
There is nothing metal about Earth A.D. - it's a ferocious onslaught! Definitely give another shot.
Both are wonderful, but for me the apex of that band was Earth A.D.
Also the pinnacle of the Misfits sheer brutality!
I love thd totally distorted aggro sound of "Earth A.D.". Danzig though spent the 80s and most of the 90s slagging the album. From what I remember he thought the songs were way too fast and too much like the " Hardcore thrash" sound that was huge in 82-83. Also hd thought Misfits should be ahead of the times not part of them. Enjoy seeing these rare interviews and footage.
The interviews are really fun to look through.
If you look at it, though, they were still ahead of their time even playing fast. So many speed and thrash bands cite Earth AD as a big influence.
Not sure if this has already been addressed, but when you are talking about samhain the song being played fast, you can hear and see that exact fast tempo on the vhs live arena show (samhain box set), it’s brutal
Broski!!
I found final descent I'd a used CD store. I've read GD sez that LP was done with a drum mschine.
I was NO schwayy!
Then you listen to Lords OT lefthand and ur "right on"
Weird to consider, but yea - all those songs are drum machine except for one.
I never heard Jerry and Doyle's stuff after earth ad.did it sound like earth ad type energy?
Just search for Kryst the Conqueror on youtube. You will see.
@@Frumess cool thanks man .buddy of mine told me to look them up too
Nah, sounded more like Iron maiden. It's actually cool for what it is IMO. It's a shame Jerry and Doyle don't want to put it out. Like why the fuck not? I'd definitely buy a copy! I had the 5 song cd when I was a kid. If you look online, a few people have the full unreleased album. Ain't nothing like the Misfits, but it's cool power metal.
@@cepolt they should put it out on limited vinyl. It would sell out fast.
Did that book about Spot ever come out, and if so did he talk at length about Earth AD?
The photo book?
@@Frumess The one that's mention here in this vid. Someone had said that there wa s abook coming out about Spot. Check @ 5:02.
@@harryanderson7282 ah, right! No one ever got back to me about that. But I do know that Spot has a photo book... maybe there is some overlap?
Hey does anyone have any info on recent releases of Earth AD being 45 rpm as opposed to 33rpm!? Someone claimed they got one- I want one! But if that's true I'm wondering if there's a way to determine this before buying any random new pressing of EAD.
That's so bizarre! What is the reasoning behind going from 33 to 45?
@@Frumess I'm assuming that it would sound better? I have no idea
@@cepolt Either a fidelity thing or a real estate thing... It could have to do with the circumference. I wish I know more about this stuff.
Found the listing on Discogs! Came out last year. There's no way to really tell until it's opened. Messaged every seller on Discogs to make sure- verified after opening. Didn't want to buy a bunch only to realize it's not 45 rpm.
@@cepolt interesting! please report back your findings.
I worked for them for many years. Hardcare became trendy so thats the way whey went. They broke up about a year before the album came out. Robot did a different kind of drumming
You worked for the Misfits?
77-83? Or 95+?
Green Hell, I couldn't see any way other than as it was on Earth A.D.
Which makes me want to hear it in a different way all the more!
I can see those Earth AD songs as Samhain. Hellhound slowed down by half with more nuanced tribal beats- it would sound like the Howl. Same with Death Comes Ripping- play it at the Howl speed and there you go. Samhain to Earth AD? Take out the drums and replace them with faster, less nuanced Robo drums. The guitars by default become more straightforward and less nuanced by having to speed up and match the drums. Eerie said Mother originally used to be fast. Imagine that! Lastly Lord's of the Left hand- the two different versions. The speed and the drum rhythm difference between the two really showcase how different a song can sound just by changing drums.
You described this so perfectly that I could hear it in my head! Thank you. I would be so floored to hear some demo or taped practice with Mother sped up. Always been a huge fan of the original Lords of the Lefthand.
Cancerslug did a fucking awesome cover of archangel/all murder all guts medley
Is that on youtube?
@@Frumess fuck yeah ,just type cancerslug archangel cover . it will blow your mind bro
@@CarlEvz13 I will check it out.
Hmmm...Samhain Initium songs on Earth AD or vice versa? Sounds like something I should do on my BloodSong project! Been wanting to do more with that
Yes! Get to it.
@@Frumess NICE! Challenge accepted! In the meantime, here's the only song I've done for it so far - let me know what you think. Definitely Misfits/Samhain worship! ruclips.net/video/VhLNAoSQzNE/видео.html
@@Frumess Planning on finishing this project this week. 17 songs - 10 from EarthAD/Die Die My Darling done in the style of Samhain's Initium and 7 from Initium done in the style of Misfits EarthAD. The only ones I left off were the ones we've all heard both The Misfits and Samhain play before. I studied both albums to pick up on the details that make them different, and then I applied these to the opposite songs - so I kinda had to unlearn and relearn how to play these. Very interesting experience🤘 How the hell I'd be able to let anyone hear it without copyright strikes, I'm not sure (unless this would be an example of Fair Use), but I definitely want you to hear it when it's done - just in time for Halloween! Just let me know where to send it.
@@Frumess Here's my versions of All Murder All Guts All Fun and Earth AD from my project Initium Meets Earth AD - ruclips.net/video/kExJCKjHhYE/видео.html
@@imisanthropeofficial so excited to check this out. I think I will do a whole episode focusing on it. Not sure yet.
I always thought Queen Wasp would've sounded better without so many, Go's.
No way!!! Bite yer tongue!
Those make the song rule in my book . Love them!
What?! Those are what make the song. Man good thing you're not a song writer.
I could imagine ALL the Samhain material on Earth A.D. The only difference between The Misfits and Samhain is the band. The Misfits were a wrecking ball, bullet train of a band from playing tons of live gigs where as Samhain was thrown together with whoever Glenn could find. I think he felt he could put his vocals over whatever he wanted and it would turn out killer... which is kinda true
But could you imagine the Earth A.D. material on Initium?
Don't know about that take. Samhain is far more musically interesting to me.
I always wanted to know how Googy got kicked out of the band .. I remember Doyle mentioned his departure of the group
There is actually another video on this channel that tackles that very subject- with visuals! Seek it out
Something about a burger
Back in the 80s and 90s, Glenn slagged Earth AD pretty much non stop. The speed of the songs he really disliked the most. This paraphrased Glenn quote that i remembered sets the tone... "To me, the Misfits were always ahead of the times. On Earth AD we became the exact time when that album was recorded". I remember Glenn too was pissed at Metallica for choosing an Earth AD song for "Garage Days". I personally love the album but can do without Spot and his always sludgey production.
It's a masterpiece. You should watch the Initium A.D. episode on here.
I like Earth A.D. it gets alot of flack. It was my introduction to the Misfits in 85. It's a noisy Hardcore Record. The thing about Earth A.D. the tape machine blew up according to SPOT. Then it got mixed elsewhere but I like the messy sound. It was written when Hardcore was a newer style and this is their attempt of doing a faster angrier record.
It does get flack and it shouldn't!
"Bloodfeast" being meant for Samhain absolutely rings true, imo. The others, not as much (tho I'm not implying they weren't). Archangel could never be on Earth A,D.
Earth ad is most likely the best music
It's so great
Frumes, take a listen to the songs at a faster bpm here... ruclips.net/video/ZJSGoTCtf00/видео.html
I love that it's called Initium A.D. - that is how to categorize this version of this music discussed.
@@Frumess was watching your video this morning And got motivated to give it a try... literally only spent about 30 minutes on this.
@@ericscorpse That really floors me. I'm gonna add this to my Samhain music reaction video if you don't mind, with full props and cred to you.
@@Frumess that would be awesome! By all means please do!
@@ericscorpse Thank you!
I prefer the Earth AD demos over the finished product. Spot as a producer is okay, lot of heavy guitars but vocals are drowned out.
I want nothing more than to hear a remastered Earth A.D.
6:55.... I thought thaley were talkin DEMONOMANIA lmad
My father was a wolf.
Earth AD is Glenn losing control of the band. Doyle was what 18 when they recorded it? He was a kid. He took Jerry's lead. Making everything faster and more distorted with their "wall of sound" Jerry has been quoted that he wanted everything fast like Motörhead. He liked Ace of Spades. They had no input on the lyrics or the writing of the songs so they seized control of how they are played and recorded. Which was shit. Fast, heavy, and distorted. I think if the band stayed together this recording would not have been the official release. Glenn release it after they broke up. It's all he had. Glenn has been quoted recently saying they have been talking about recording something with Doyle and Jerry. I'd love to hear them reboot this album. They should have recorded it with production like Walk Among Us. Maybe I'm wrong, but they probably recorded this for free.
Wow, spot on observation: He did lose control of the band with Earth A.D. I never thought about it in that kind of way. I like the way it sounds, but I would KILL for a remaster, that we will never get. Even more so: I'd love to hear what it sounded like before Glenn remixed it.
What is great about Earth AD is that Jerry and Doyle "Glenn proofed" it. There was no way Glenn could have re-done almost anything on that album. Maybe Bloodfeast. The guitars were too fast and hard for Glenn! Doyle really came into his own as a technician. The guitars were on a different level beyond Glenn's capability.
@@daggerlove9304 😂😂😂 its like Paul McCartney secretly rewriting Abbey Road songs with the bass line subversively...😂😂😂
Uhh...Earth AD/Wolf's Blood is not exactly one of my favorites. It's in the middle of the pack. I like enough of the songs to buy it eventually, it's just not on the top of my wishlist. I enjoy Die Die My Darling, Green Hell, Devilock, Bloodfeast, Wolf's Blood, and Death Comes Ripping. I like Mommy Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight? But it'll never be among my tops.
Who is spot?
I have a whole video about him on this channel. Watch it! RIP SPOT!!!
Glenn sleeping would be a good idea to rest his vocals.
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your right about earth a.d.like an accidental train wreck .that was maybe a practice session before the real recording?always thought they were sloppy as fuck live.samhain had better live stuff then misfits.peak danzig live stuff was the tour for 1st danzig album.had alot of samhain lingering
But it can't be denied that they are so in sync with each other - complete alignment during the tracking of Earth A.D. as it was recorded live, and they are locked in perfectly.
@@Frumess true.especially green he'll.playing that in our old band.its pretty cool locking in on that song.
No confusion, just a different band.
Same songs... meant for one band and used for the other.
I read that Glenn and Doyle made Green hell together.
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Says it sounds like noise like that's a bad thing.
Bwahaha!
Spot AND Mugger
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You know what influenced the speed of EAD- SPEED! Isn't it we'll know the brothers were into that during the last days back then? Funny bc Motorhead being mentioned; Lemmy is on record saying how the Motorhead sound came due to use of speed( the reason he got kicked out of Hawkwind). Guess the same goes for the creation of EAD and why those guys were rolling and Glenn was " sleeping." I do prefer listening to those EAD * demo* pre- mix live recordings. However with today's technology, I'd think someone could take the EAD recordings and digitally re- master them( mess with the eq and get rid of background noise).
I see a lot of talk about this DIY mastering after the fact. It's true you can tweak little things etc. But you can't really do anything without masters and the individual tracks. Tech is getting better though and after the fact improvements can be made. But it's also like grinding up crackers into dust and using them to make dough and then baking bread with it. Not the same.
Check out misfits 12 hits from hell. That is earth ad basically raw. Like only says
So confused. Can you explain what you mean?
Isn’t the statement “Motörhead on speed” and oxymoron?
Possibly?
First line up of The Misfits DIDN'T have the same instrumentation - No guitar.
Seriously!? 🤯
You know Danzig pronounces samhain correctly in song lyrics etc...why do you refuse to?
i dunno... Check out what Eerie has to say on his interview on this channel.
@@Frumess I heard, he said no one else said it like that, but Danzig, it's his band, his lyrics, his creation, it's sow-win not Sam-Hain. It doesn't sound better, it sounds like a rando name and like you're an ignorant poser.
@@rustyshackleford735 in interviews Danzig pronounced it just as Sam-hain he just would say it as Sow-win in the songs
There's nothing to be confused about it. It is the progression and metamorphosis of the Misfits which turns into the American hardcore era of 1980 and 83. They're simply talented and badass in every way. This podcast guy is a nerd!!!!
Sure, I'm a nerd. But you clearly didn't understand the video or maybe you just read the title and wrote this silly comment. I dunno.
Glenn re-recorded the tracks from Earth A.D. so he didn't have to pay royalties
I don't think any of the Earth A.D. tracks were redone, but yes, he did overdub a bunch to avoid royalties.
No confusion, the misfits played fast, and Samhain played not so fast.
Uh, did you watch the video? If so, did you understand what was being said?
Sorry that came off obnoxious... point being, explained in the video.
Who is this hypergeek ?????
He is Jeff Frumess and he is super nerdy about this stuff.
I would just say hardcore influenced earth AD . I think I remember kata calling that stuff horror core. I don't think it has goofy metal influence. I think it was just the next stage to go faster . Many of those punk rock bands like the dead Kennedys sped their music up from what it was. People seem to forget the term thrash when applied to music was a eterna for hardvore punk before im t had anything to do with metal. Again the dead Kennedys second album was referred to as that bad brains were called that and many of the second wave hardcore bands with initials were called that- it was a term for just playing extremely fast which was mostly associated with hardcore punk at the time. I call Earth AD a death thrash album ( I'm not speaking of that term with a metal mentality either bands like Kreator and slayer) but there are other bands of hardcore I would put into the horrorcore /death thrash catagory. Many of them misfits fans as well. Those bands are septic death, negative gain, and YDi they all had similar horror like themes and played extremely fast hardcore music btw earth AD is my fave misfits album.