Kelly: Do you see me as a mother figure Torque? Torque: NO. If anything, I see you as a BOTHER figure, because you’re always BOTHERING me. Blueblood: HEY! Show your mother some respect! Torque: I didn’t call her “mom”
Kelly: No, no Torque. I take it it as a compliment. Charub: It's not a big deal, I called Verge dad once and we're only squadmates Torque: Guys, jump on that, Charub has parent issues Whisper: Old news, but you calling Kelly, mommy
Torque: Hey, “mommy” is NOT on the table, here. Trooper: But ehh, you did call her “mom,” dude. Torque: YOU shut up, you’ve done nothing but lie since you got here.
Trooper: Alright I was lying about the bombs but the mom thing, that happened Torque: AHA! (gets up tall) He admitted that he lied about knowing about his suppliers. It was a trap, all part of my crazy devious plan.
When you realize Kelly had problem relationing with people because her entire squad got wiped out on her first mission except Bradford, who was injuried. For those who don’t get this, repeat XCOM 2 tutorial.
i mean not really...if you play the tactical legacy pack, Jane Kelly was already leading her own resistance group well before XCOM got its commander back. Also those two other soldiers that died in the tutorial...well the black guy was the leader of a gang raiding ADVENT trains and the girl was a trainer of another resistance group.
@@tristangabales549 idk man. Central was probably reaaaaaaaally hammered. Probably BS'd part of his story. Especially what they came for at the end of that campaig .
For some reason, the way she says "You had fangs?" in such an innocent voice is just the funniest thing. Considering X-COM that might actually be a legitimate question.
I know a lot of people shipped Torque with Kelly as soon as she was mentioned that they have a bond. But this seems to me much more as a "mother-daughter" or as a "mentor" thing (and a little "bestfriends" whit that last comment). So I'm gonna keep shipping Torque with Whisper.
Torque is not fucking gay Kelly just kinda treats her like a daughter also she is way older than her nigga...... I rather ship Torque with Kirby now that's something
Reminds me of this pic of Bradford Baby Sitting someone's adopted Viper kid... www.deviantart.com/kloudmutt/art/Lil-snek-611370552 We now know that Viper is TORQUE!
such a sweet and endearing conversation, the devs owe us a comic series about this game, even if they're just little side stories like how Torque and Jane got to know each other
@@Ali-ii8il I can see that like a spaceballs scene where she is having a cupcake party with Kirby, a sadie walks in, she shouts "Knock on my door! Knock next time!!!"
I hope this game gets a sequel. It was awesome that they Gave the characters personalities, But it's so hard to do character development in a game like this. Beyond a few lines of admittedly well written spoken dialog, I would have liked something similar to mass effect 2 Loyalty missions.
Hey it’s me, a year later. Never played the game myself but I looked up how it works in comparison to the other Xcom games (I only played Xcom 2), and your idea is really good. They could also unlock a special skill after you complete the “loyalty mission” just like ME2.
Now that I'm finally starting to see Torque and Jane's interactions this definitely seems more like a mother/daughter kind of relationship. I mean yeah I could see how it *could* be rather intimate but that should develop and show more if the devs are willing to go that route Other than that it's a neat little bond these two have like they're best friends that can always trust each other, like Shepard and Garrus (assuming their not intimate) or Anakin and Obi-wan
yeah it seems like the pre-made soldiers (ones that are always the same such as the ones from Tutorial Gatecrasher) are canon in the Xcom universe, take Zhang and the Annette from EU/EW
i typed " induction motor torque-speed characteristics " as I have an exam in a few hours and here I am xD? ill investigate this game later I really like the soundtrack
If you haven't played any XCOM games, it's really a great way to start. Easier than the normal Xcoms, and much more margin for error. Though, then you'd have to go back to using a squad full of filthy humans, so, -shrug-
Aw So, this kind of conversation opens an idea up. The "bond" between Torque and Kelly was assumed to be romantic by me. But I'm wondering if it isn't closer to a sibling thing. Kelly is at least 30 by now, while Torque is only 19. Torque basically tries her best to live up to Kelly's expectations and goes to her for things from comfort to advice. Plus, the humor is closer to what I do with my brother than I do with anyone I'm romantically interested in. Plus, from what I understand, they had similar upbringings, being raised in war, being the only survivor of their squads, etc...
They have a described history together, the game has bios of the characters and Torque's talks in detail about how she was captured and personally vouched for by Kelly, etc.
I love how they made Torque a member of the team and gave her a "normal" sounding voice as opposed to the stereotypical snake voice with elongated "S" sounds. Much better than the usual trope of making a snake-person a played-straight pure evil character to amplify the obligatory "snakes are pure evil" message in media
There aren't max rank conversations in this game. The convo just coincidentally played there. Load up a save at the base a bunch of times and I guarantee this will play again. But also: That poor snake.
"Hi. After I finish my stint in XCOM, I'm going to go into radio and voice acting with my cool, lustrous, female voice that can charm the trees and rocks into dancing. What did you think I would sound like? Cobra Commander?"
More canonical in terms of voice over, I didn't expect to hear a Viper speaking fluent Human english (or Basic as I call it, #starwars) without some kind of...vocal difference if that makes sense.
I believe it was the other way around. They modified the Vipers into the Thin Men when they needed to infiltrate humanity. Afterwards they didn't need to blend in and stopped modifying them to look like humans.
You know I really like these small budget side title like this, far cry:blood dragon or Saints row gat out of hell. Not only do they allow some room to the writers to do fun stuff like this but also It is a good place to publicly test things. Like he it is the the New initiative system and the voiced, focused, and pre-made characters pushes players to test compositions with the new alien mechanics.
All victims of the elder. Reminds me of convo in chimera squad where humans feel uncomfortable with the gene clinics and a sectoid reminds them that humans are hardly the first on the elders menu
Henry Badger Same. Some of it I’m not sure of so I kinda headcanon until I know more. For example, I don’t know if all the elders were on Earth. My headcanon is the main force is still fighting the unknown enemy and sent a task force from planet to planet looking for their cure.
Did some of you know that Torque's voice actress, Erica Lindbeck, was not aware that Torque was a viper during the recording of lines? Plus, she also voices Futaba Sakura in Persona 5/Royal/Strikers, Sahori in Shin Megami Tensei V, and Milady in Soul hackers 2.
yep the same Jane Kelly form XCOM 2 tutorial. Canon story wise she survived the entire XCOM 2 and is one of the best Rangers under the Commander's command.
My Jane Kelly also survived but half way through she got her entire face reconstructed and had her identity changed because the Commander willed it to be so.
Thin Men are altered Vipers and were used as infiltrator units, being proficient in at least ten languages, so... won't be surprised, if "baseline" Vipers were gene-upgraded with vocal apparatus, which allows them to speak human languages without too much accent too.
I'd have to say the reason behind her capability for human speech is the same as how Verge and Axiom are able to speak human languages: the introduction of human DNA, while not as extreme as it was in EU/EW when the Vipers were the Thin Men it's still enough to give them vocal cords that lets them speak like we do, they just never used them because the Ethereals were controlling them, or if they did speak it wasn't when we were looking at them
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 an unorthodox decision, to be sure, but not a bad one. It does humanized all the aliens that we had spend the last two games shooting at.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 I think they should do the hissing sound when they are trying to intimidate their enemies, other than when they are talking, it would get more repetitive than a human voice.
I actually didn't get this dialog. It might have been a bug or was accidentally interrupted by something. Someone should upload a compilation of the team members dialog :)
is the 'going to start wearing sweaters" comment a reference to bradford or a reference to those *ahem* fanart of the sneks really liking fluffy things like pillows or hoodies?
This entry could have been even better with a budget... Chats like this would have been great in cutscenes or...y'know anything other than Torque standing in her idle animation with no lip sync and Kelly just a portrait with some text voiceover. I blame 2K... why they'd think another Xcom entry after how well the first two did wouldn't need MONEY to be the best it could be is beyond all understanding I'll ever have.
@@YourBestFriendreally it is to prevent leaks and such so it actually happens more often then you think. some voice actors didn’t even know exactly what game they were in for awhile (this was an issue that was part of the actors guild strike negotiations) and like I said here the devs said they really didn’t want the character to sound like a snake so they just gave her the lines and let her do the character and made it viper. I mean they know what voice they wanted the character to have and she is a pretty famous voice actress so.
@@dragonlogos1 Didn't know making a mini-mod spinoff game required such cloak and dagger behavior. Also I don't care about the actress, she did fine. The fact they gave no direction to make her sound -at all- different from a normal human being is the problem, they didn't even put a filter on it or do SOMETHING.
@@YourBestFriendreally that is what they were going for though. The whole theme is that we’re not so different. I thought it turned out was a reasonable choice.
well Jane Kelly death's in the game is non canon but when listening to the conversation she had with torque kinda hard since I accidently killed Jane during first mission
VA was ignorant. Additionally Torque is born on Earth and knowing Ethereals experiments it is likely she has received modifications to her vocal organs to enable talking. If Ethereals were able to make Vipers humanoid it would be easy to give them ability to talk. So it is plausible within gameworld that Viper can speak without stereotypical hissing.
@@vksasdgaming9472 true but I sort of expected some kind of after effect on there voice. Like how all the Turians in Mass effect have that effect thing when they speak.
@@Zack_Wester Skirmisher had that. Reason why it no longer exists in CS though is Skirms and other Hybrids had those implants in their throats removed. you know, the ones attached to their helmets.
Well vipers were the base version of thin men(Some fucking how) So its possible thats just elder tech since thin men needed to speak like humans to blend in.
I mean Xcom came up with some crazy mods like letting people spit venom in like less than a year under pressure from elders, funding, and which research to priotize. Imagine having 2 out 3 issues being gone and being able to go full RnD
I like how they utterly shattered our expectations with the biggest 180 ever. We all expected a usual serpentine voice. But no. They decided to subvert everything make it just, a young adult with a nervous voice in private. I like that!
@@Zynet_Eseled I hate it because it just sounds so off putting, there's a huge dissonance for me between the character model and the voice actress. I don't know it seems to undermine the whole "we're not so different" message for me because it feels like the only way to get that message across was to have the aliens not actually be aliens.
Either Elders gene-modding them massively (Thin Men, after all, are derived from Vipers, yet can speak at least 10 human languages perfectly) or some kind of translation device being in usage.
@@caav56 that's an interesting lore reason, but the real reason is because the voice actors didn't know they were voicing aliens or humans and what not. Hell they didn't even know this was for a video game until later.
@@connormacleod4922 Honestly, I'm not sure about this, since quite a few lines (about fangs and rats in particular) give some clues about the identity of the character.
![ARGENTINA vs. BOLIVIA [6-0] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 10](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/C3wPtKNbAOA/mqdefault.jpg)
"I used to push people away" "What changed?" "War of the Chosen introduced soldier bonds"
*Gets fear of vipers trait*
@@zippy2470 " back away!"
" your bonded with me"
" but i got that one trait!"
My team of 8 snakes never complained binding everyone they saw. War changes but only the people it changes.
@@inybisinsulate congrats you just sold me to get the game
@@travonhackett1401 Xcom 2 has alien recruits mod, if Chimera had all squads are torque i would buy it too. Imagine the sass overload on small talks.
Reminder that she didn’t know she was voicing in her words “a giant snake” until 2 days after release
what
That’s hilarious
@@chip-lol yeah, apparently the voice actors had very little direction on their lines
Sean Hack
Well that’s a noticeable fuk up
twitter.com/ericalindbeck/status/1254125324620595200?s=20
this just in: not all bonds have to be romantic or sexual
Yep, they can always be wholesome like this
I mean of course, but people like shipping people together for their own "head canon". No one can be friends anymore, apparently
Some can be special abilities that prevent enemies from taking actions and damaging them over time
@@lordvucic5148 took me a while to get that lol
Every fandom ever: *Autistic screeching*
Torque: All right thanks mom
(Everyone is now looking at Torque)
Torque: Why is everybody looking at me?
Zephyr: You just called Director Kelly mom, you said 'thanks mom'
Torque: No I didn't I said thanks ma'm
Kelly: Do you see me as a mother figure Torque?
Torque: NO. If anything, I see you as a BOTHER figure, because you’re always BOTHERING me.
Blueblood: HEY! Show your mother some respect!
Torque: I didn’t call her “mom”
Kelly: No, no Torque. I take it it as a compliment.
Charub: It's not a big deal, I called Verge dad once and we're only squadmates
Torque: Guys, jump on that, Charub has parent issues
Whisper: Old news, but you calling Kelly, mommy
Torque: Hey, “mommy” is NOT on the table, here.
Trooper: But ehh, you did call her “mom,” dude.
Torque: YOU shut up, you’ve done nothing but lie since you got here.
Trooper: Alright I was lying about the bombs but the mom thing, that happened
Torque: AHA! (gets up tall) He admitted that he lied about knowing about his suppliers. It was a trap, all part of my crazy devious plan.
When you realize Kelly had problem relationing with people because her entire squad got wiped out on her first mission except Bradford, who was injuried.
For those who don’t get this, repeat XCOM 2 tutorial.
i mean not really...if you play the tactical legacy pack, Jane Kelly was already leading her own resistance group well before XCOM got its commander back. Also those two other soldiers that died in the tutorial...well the black guy was the leader of a gang raiding ADVENT trains and the girl was a trainer of another resistance group.
@@tristangabales549 idk man. Central was probably reaaaaaaaally hammered. Probably BS'd part of his story. Especially what they came for at the end of that campaig .
CrowMercury gatecrasher 2-1
Holy shit I didnt realise until now the director is the legendary Jane Fucking Kelly
She always died in my campaigns lol
For some reason, the way she says "You had fangs?" in such an innocent voice is just the funniest thing. Considering X-COM that might actually be a legitimate question.
Gene mods ftw.
@@pendraco2000 marrow regen op
Dr. Vahlen would like to know your location
Kelly could have replied: " NO but i got Legs to kick people's faces in and out.
I know a lot of people shipped Torque with Kelly as soon as she was mentioned that they have a bond. But this seems to me much more as a "mother-daughter" or as a "mentor" thing (and a little "bestfriends" whit that last comment).
So I'm gonna keep shipping Torque with Whisper.
Torque is not fucking gay Kelly just kinda treats her like a daughter also she is way older than her nigga......
I rather ship Torque with Kirby now that's something
@@Ali-ii8il who is Kirby?
@@leejames8024 Probably the Nintendo character. That's how stupid the idea of shipping the Viper with her Best Friend/Mentor/Mother figure is.
I like the idea of Torque and Whisper because they have a history together but its not roses instead it's lobotomy.
Too bad she was friends with him chimerathesquad.tumblr.com/post/616644240822370304/so-torque-do-you-and-kirby-have-anything-in
Oh my gods, she’s like an adoptive daughter to Jane, oh my gods that’s so cute!
I would love to see Torque adopted a little boy now that would be cute
Jane Kelly, the soldier who participated in rescue of XCOM commander. Is that really her?
@@shaftoe195 the one and only
@@shaftoe195 Yes
@@shaftoe195 The very same badass
Aww.
Jane is like a Mother to her. Makes sense. Torque is by far the youngest, at only around 20 if I remember correctly.
Cherub is the youngest. He's only 5 years old.
"Like a mother"
@@phalamy9180 Eh, I don't think there's anything more to it. Doesn't get hinted to in any way, far as I can tell
@@0jutai she's 20/19 in the bio
She was hatched by the viper king in the artic so about that
I remember when we mounted the heads of those snakes in the hangar, good times.
Or wore the skinned hide of their king as armour
I’m pretty sure I had Jane Kelly wearing the snakeskin armour at one point. That’s must have been an awkward conversation.
Good-good times.
Yeah it was frankly barbaric
I would not be surprised if some of the aliens thought very negatively of xcom after the war
@@HellishSpoon literal space invaders
Torque: *Stone cold bitch*
Also Torque: *Calls mom at work for emotional support*
“You had fangs?” Oh lord ahahahahaha
Torque just can't help herself can she XD
OH SNAP SHE TOOK A SHOT AT THE SWEATER!
Reminds me of this pic of Bradford Baby Sitting someone's adopted Viper kid...
www.deviantart.com/kloudmutt/art/Lil-snek-611370552
We now know that Viper is TORQUE!
@@DonaldWWitt Grandpa Bradford XD
With 99% accuracy?
Missed!
@@DrownedInExile this joke is so overdone
Of course she would, fuckwit will always get soldiers killed in the field!
It appears as Torque could be talkative when she is around the most familiar people to her :]
such a sweet and endearing conversation, the devs owe us a comic series about this game, even if they're just little side stories like how Torque and Jane got to know each other
Torque you aint this cute when you were in Blacksite Ironman Legendary
Sandhy Winartja FACTS
Ok. She is a literal cold blooded warrior. And she is actually kind of sweet.
Get. This. Game. On. Switch. As. Soon. As. Possible.
I mean if we are going to xcom 2 on Switch maybe we can have chimera squad soon too
I want people to make Torque best friends with Kirby
@@Ali-ii8il torque for smash
@@Ali-ii8il I can see that like a spaceballs scene where she is having a cupcake party with Kirby, a sadie walks in, she shouts "Knock on my door! Knock next time!!!"
@@Teachermook believe it or not Kirby is best friends with Torque and I have proof
Maybe if she didn’t spout things like “I DIDNT ASK FOR YOUR HELP” when getting healed by terminal in combat, she’d connect with others easier.
I know!
I hope this game gets a sequel. It was awesome that they Gave the characters personalities, But it's so hard to do character development in a game like this. Beyond a few lines of admittedly well written spoken dialog, I would have liked something similar to mass effect 2 Loyalty missions.
Hey it’s me, a year later. Never played the game myself but I looked up how it works in comparison to the other Xcom games (I only played Xcom 2), and your idea is really good. They could also unlock a special skill after you complete the “loyalty mission” just like ME2.
As amusing as it is to imagine Kelly as Bradford 2.0, she actually takes on the speakers role in this game.
So she needs the object of power
Now that I'm finally starting to see Torque and Jane's interactions this definitely seems more like a mother/daughter kind of relationship. I mean yeah I could see how it *could* be rather intimate but that should develop and show more if the devs are willing to go that route
Other than that it's a neat little bond these two have like they're best friends that can always trust each other, like Shepard and Garrus (assuming their not intimate) or Anakin and Obi-wan
I can actually see a genuine parental connection between the two of them. It fits very well.
I'm so glad Jane's cannon, I genuinely always used her in my playthroughs of xcom 2
yeah it seems like the pre-made soldiers (ones that are always the same such as the ones from Tutorial Gatecrasher) are canon in the Xcom universe, take Zhang and the Annette from EU/EW
i typed " induction motor torque-speed characteristics " as I have an exam in a few hours and here I am xD? ill investigate this game later I really like the soundtrack
If you haven't played any XCOM games, it's really a great way to start. Easier than the normal Xcoms, and much more margin for error.
Though, then you'd have to go back to using a squad full of filthy humans, so, -shrug-
I am cracking up, this is the best way to find a game
You should play all Xcoms since the First one Bro highly recommend
Aw
So, this kind of conversation opens an idea up. The "bond" between Torque and Kelly was assumed to be romantic by me. But I'm wondering if it isn't closer to a sibling thing.
Kelly is at least 30 by now, while
Torque is only 19.
Torque basically tries her best to live up to Kelly's expectations and goes to her for things from comfort to advice. Plus, the humor is closer to what I do with my brother than I do with anyone I'm romantically interested in.
Plus, from what I understand, they had similar upbringings, being raised in war, being the only survivor of their squads, etc...
More like a Mentor/student to me.
quit it with your crappy romantic fanfiction nobody asked
They have a described history together, the game has bios of the characters and Torque's talks in detail about how she was captured and personally vouched for by Kelly, etc.
Hehe poking fun at Bradford xD
Jane probably had this same conversation with Bradford during XCOM 2.
@@vincentthendean7713 Maybe!
I thought she was talking about us. The commander
@@AOTLTng i never heard about commander wearing a sweater
@@adamdobry5517 why nog
I love how they made Torque a member of the team and gave her a "normal" sounding voice as opposed to the stereotypical snake voice with elongated "S" sounds. Much better than the usual trope of making a snake-person a played-straight pure evil character to amplify the obligatory "snakes are pure evil" message in media
She is meanest person in group. Sadistic and rude. She is also most insecure and brittle so it is a compromise.
They didn’t tell her she was voicing a snek
I mean, you can still have a friendly snake person who still elongates her S’s. :P
They didn't know they were voicing aliens
"You had fangs?"
Torque.
Ethereal: OUR WORK IS COMPLETE, THEYRE GONNA HAVE ALL THE KIDS
Me as commander:
*Yeah but they are not part of yours elder* ......
"Well yes but actually no."
@@connormacleod4922 "but actually yes, but actually no, but actually yes..." 😂
Apparently the VA thought she was voicing a vampire, I think this conversion probably didn't help lol
Torque casually throwing in a reference to Bradford.
There aren't max rank conversations in this game. The convo just coincidentally played there. Load up a save at the base a bunch of times and I guarantee this will play again.
But also: That poor snake.
I dunno, that played for me when I promoted Torque.
"Hi. After I finish my stint in XCOM, I'm going to go into radio and voice acting with my cool, lustrous, female voice that can charm the trees and rocks into dancing. What did you think I would sound like? Cobra Commander?"
Snakes were originally thin men. Imagine a thin man with this voice!
More canonical in terms of voice over, I didn't expect to hear a Viper speaking fluent Human english (or Basic as I call it, #starwars) without some kind of...vocal difference if that makes sense.
I believe it was the other way around. They modified the Vipers into the Thin Men when they needed to infiltrate humanity. Afterwards they didn't need to blend in and stopped modifying them to look like humans.
nobody makes fun of the sweater.
the punishment for such crimes is death.
Kelly and Torque: *have a heartwarming conversation*
Degenerates who never had (or will have) a gf: OOOOH THEY FUCKIN'.
You know I really like these small budget side title like this, far cry:blood dragon or Saints row gat out of hell. Not only do they allow some room to the writers to do fun stuff like this but also It is a good place to publicly test things. Like he it is the the New initiative system and the voiced, focused, and pre-made characters pushes players to test compositions with the new alien mechanics.
Man, after finding out who the VC has voiced before, I cant shake the feeling that Torque is related to an angsty hellhound.
It wouldn't happen to be a certain Hell hound with syphilis, would it?
@@jeremyallen492 Maybe?
I’m so glad that my Jane Kelly actually survived the entire game
I'm sorry, but seeing a Viper talk EXACTLY like a human woman is JARRING.
And hearing a Viper continue the hissing cliche would be even worse
Voice is super jarring at first, but it oddly fits?
Now I feel terrible for killing them in xcom 2 :(
All victims of the elder. Reminds me of convo in chimera squad where humans feel uncomfortable with the gene clinics and a sectoid reminds them that humans are hardly the first on the elders menu
Soulstealer56 xcom story and lore is super interesting to me.
Henry Badger Same. Some of it I’m not sure of so I kinda headcanon until I know more. For example, I don’t know if all the elders were on Earth. My headcanon is the main force is still fighting the unknown enemy and sent a task force from planet to planet looking for their cure.
Honestly, I really like her voice
@@soulstealer5625 You gotta take the Bureau into consideration since it is apparently canon as well.
Did some of you know that Torque's voice actress, Erica Lindbeck, was not aware that Torque was a viper during the recording of lines? Plus, she also voices Futaba Sakura in Persona 5/Royal/Strikers, Sahori in Shin Megami Tensei V, and Milady in Soul hackers 2.
Me (knowing what rule 34 will make of this): What have you done, Firaxis? ;_; WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
THEY HAVE EMBRACED THE DARK SIDE, THAT'S WHAT!
@@SGTcz90cz NOOOOOOO
Big reveal that DK is Jane Kelly
Me losing Jane on my first Xcom 2 game in the first mission
It would cool if her sassy/edgy in-mission voice lines were replaced after getting this dialogue
Jane... Jane Kelly , ranger in Xcom 2. Huh
yep the same Jane Kelly form XCOM 2 tutorial. Canon story wise she survived the entire XCOM 2 and is one of the best Rangers under the Commander's command.
My Jane Kelly survived too and got to the rank of Colonel at the end of the war
My jane kelly was specialist and survived xcom 2
My Jane Kelly also survived but half way through she got her entire face reconstructed and had her identity changed because the Commander willed it to be so.
Jane's nickname was The Reaper in my playthrough because she took so many alien souls.
Slayer was mine because damn did she have a pile of sectiod corpses for me
The killer was Mine
Honestly I didn't expect her voice to sound so human-like, unless she's using some sort of translator?
Thin Men are altered Vipers and were used as infiltrator units, being proficient in at least ten languages, so... won't be surprised, if "baseline" Vipers were gene-upgraded with vocal apparatus, which allows them to speak human languages without too much accent too.
It might be a translator. In the game, she can make snake alien noises at the same time as her english voice plays
@@Ben-dw2sm Or maybe she's just good at speaking english. I mean, she WAS born on Earth - in the arctic, but on Earth nonetheless.
I'd have to say the reason behind her capability for human speech is the same as how Verge and Axiom are able to speak human languages: the introduction of human DNA, while not as extreme as it was in EU/EW when the Vipers were the Thin Men it's still enough to give them vocal cords that lets them speak like we do, they just never used them because the Ethereals were controlling them, or if they did speak it wasn't when we were looking at them
@Taramafor Haikido wrong. EVERY Viper sounds humanlike. It's just how they are.
This entire conversation is so sweet.
I haven't gotten fat enough into the game to get much dialogue between characters, but this one is really wholesome...
I now feel terrible about getting Jane Kelly killed in every one of my games
Slightly older and wiser Jane Kelly is giving me some serious Helen Parr vibes
Me: Alright. Time to prepare for the serpentine hissing voice.
Torque: *Speaks in perfect english and sounds exactly human*
Me: WHAT THE FUCK!?~
Apparently the VAs weren't told they would be voicing aliens from what I've heard. Dunno why the devs didn't edit them afterwards but yeah.
@@BlazinVoid59 do you really want to hear a hissing on every two sentences?
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 an unorthodox decision, to be sure, but not a bad one. It does humanized all the aliens that we had spend the last two games shooting at.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 I think they should do the hissing sound when they are trying to intimidate their enemies, other than when they are talking, it would get more repetitive than a human voice.
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 That would be great. Exploited stereotype.
Wait, Kelly
Jane
Wh-
Oh. Ooooooh.
Nice.
I actually didn't get this dialog.
It might have been a bug or was accidentally interrupted by something.
Someone should upload a compilation of the team members dialog :)
these events are very random so there are always a chance you miss out on some dialogues during certain playthroughs.
Me trying not to ruin the moment as I recall making Jane Kelly wear the serpent armor in my first Xcom 2 playthrough.
In one of my runs I had her use it as well
@@xyiux A shotgun+sword combo using the armor for better gap closer is too good to pass up.
is the 'going to start wearing sweaters" comment a reference to bradford or a reference to those *ahem* fanart of the sneks really liking fluffy things like pillows or hoodies?
Bradford. He's known for his trademark sweater, after all.
caav56 I always called him colonel sweater
Lore answer: the first one
Real answer: the second one
Now all I can see is torque in a oversized sweater, hood up
@@scribblerstudios9895 cease heritic
oh dear
Kelly in a Bradford-style sweater...
That is not what I thought the fucking snake monster would sound like
Not sure how I feel about a lack of the obligatory hiss or drown out S's. But w/e, she is pretty cute for a Lamia ngl.
"You had fangs!?" Hah
Central: Where is my sweater?, Commander did you see my sweater?, Anyone?.
wait, kelly? as in, the first soldier you get if you do the tutorial in xcom 2?
Torque better be in Xcom 3
Mother and Daughter talking about school problems. Wholesome.
Just learned of her existence and damn she cute
well that was oddly sweet
Glad to see I'm not the only one who dosen't forefully ship Jane and Toeque.
Torque: I'm having a rough time.
Kelly: in the field?
Torque: No, I just googled my name.
They are so like each other
Both ended up as just reserve soldiers for me...
Was not expecting a fully humanoid voice
It the same va for loona off of Helluva boss series!
honestly the fact jane kelly is still alive makes me happy
I heard that torque is like loona from helluva boss but more toxic
Omg, Torques VA is Erica Lindbeck!!!!!
"You had fangs?" Lol
Wow look Torque really is the best character!
Axiom: Am I a joke to you?
Is this a men in black type game?
This entry could have been even better with a budget... Chats like this would have been great in cutscenes or...y'know anything other than Torque standing in her idle animation with no lip sync and Kelly just a portrait with some text voiceover. I blame 2K... why they'd think another Xcom entry after how well the first two did wouldn't need MONEY to be the best it could be is beyond all understanding I'll ever have.
Testing new mechanics and story progress.
@@vksasdgaming9472 ya it's just a side game to play as a pseudo beta to test the turn timer and alien squadmates.
Am I the only one weirded out that the snake sounds exactly like a normal person?
The voice actor was never told that the character was a snake reportedly so that she would sound like a normal person.
@@dragonlogos1 How the fuck do you screw up talent hunting for a game so bad that you don't tell the actors what character they're playing?
@@YourBestFriendreally it is to prevent leaks and such so it actually happens more often then you think. some voice actors didn’t even know exactly what game they were in for awhile (this was an issue that was part of the actors guild strike negotiations) and like I said here the devs said they really didn’t want the character to sound like a snake so they just gave her the lines and let her do the character and made it viper.
I mean they know what voice they wanted the character to have and she is a pretty famous voice actress so.
@@dragonlogos1 Didn't know making a mini-mod spinoff game required such cloak and dagger behavior. Also I don't care about the actress, she did fine. The fact they gave no direction to make her sound -at all- different from a normal human being is the problem, they didn't even put a filter on it or do SOMETHING.
@@YourBestFriendreally that is what they were going for though. The whole theme is that we’re not so different. I thought it turned out was a reasonable choice.
Man I kinda want to see Torque befriend a little boy and possibly adopt him now that would be cute
Cherub there his 5 years old
@@lkcdarzadix6216 he's already adpoted. In fact, the XCOM ops who found him became a couple because of him
The dialogue in Chimera Squad is leagues above XCOM 2. There I said it
Jane kelly not wearing her Ballcap anymore :(
Gotta show off the streak
The random music seemed to fit well with this
This was honestly hearth warming, snek waifu jokes aside, I think Torque is my favourite character
I hope we get an Alternate Universe Sequel to XCOM Enemy Unkown where XCOM defeated these silly aliens.
well Jane Kelly death's in the game is non canon but when listening to the conversation she had with torque kinda hard since I accidently killed Jane during first mission
I like her already!
I haven’t played this one yet but is there an explanation for why her voice isn’t more I don’t know snake like guess?
Her voice actor didn't know she was voicing a giant snake till after it was finished
VA was ignorant. Additionally Torque is born on Earth and knowing Ethereals experiments it is likely she has received modifications to her vocal organs to enable talking. If Ethereals were able to make Vipers humanoid it would be easy to give them ability to talk. So it is plausible within gameworld that Viper can speak without stereotypical hissing.
@@vksasdgaming9472 true but I sort of expected some kind of after effect on there voice. Like how all the Turians in Mass effect have that effect thing when they speak.
@@Zack_Wester Skirmisher had that. Reason why it no longer exists in CS though is Skirms and other Hybrids had those implants in their throats removed. you know, the ones attached to their helmets.
God these aliens do not sound at all like they look
Problem is i never saw real aliens. So i don't know how they would sound.
I just realised: Jane Kelly survived? Man I lose her every play through of WotC
this gene-mod that makes viper talk like human woman is way too effective for something hastily developed in past 5 years...
Well vipers were the base version of thin men(Some fucking how) So its possible thats just elder tech since thin men needed to speak like humans to blend in.
@@klo45pl It also probably was a way to connect lore with conspiracy theories (reptilians)
I mean Xcom came up with some crazy mods like letting people spit venom in like less than a year under pressure from elders, funding, and which research to priotize. Imagine having 2 out 3 issues being gone and being able to go full RnD
Yeah its call humanization a thing that too oftenly use on creature who are supposed to be alien
@@klo45pl The Elders are incredibly fond of Genetic manipulation.
Just want to say, the one thing Torque does NOT do is push people away! ;)
This better come out for consoles.
I'd just like to point out Torque is the best agent in the game and Vicious Bite is the worst ability.
Torque’s voice doesn’t fit but the voice actress did a really good job performing here. Shame no one briefed her on the character.
I like how they utterly shattered our expectations with the biggest 180 ever. We all expected a usual serpentine voice. But no. They decided to subvert everything make it just, a young adult with a nervous voice in private. I like that!
@@Zynet_Eseled I hate it because it just sounds so off putting, there's a huge dissonance for me between the character model and the voice actress. I don't know it seems to undermine the whole "we're not so different" message for me because it feels like the only way to get that message across was to have the aliens not actually be aliens.
@@insertname3977 but torque isn’t an alien
@@chimeraofscarlet8610 They are though? Being born on Earth doesn't stop something from being an alien.
@@insertname3977 i mean alien means not from earth here
They didn't give the voice actor any background on her character, damn that sucks away all the immersion.
Why does a Snake alien sound like a human in every way?
Either Elders gene-modding them massively (Thin Men, after all, are derived from Vipers, yet can speak at least 10 human languages perfectly) or some kind of translation device being in usage.
@@caav56 that's an interesting lore reason, but the real reason is because the voice actors didn't know they were voicing aliens or humans and what not. Hell they didn't even know this was for a video game until later.
@@connormacleod4922 Honestly, I'm not sure about this, since quite a few lines (about fangs and rats in particular) give some clues about the identity of the character.
@@caav56 trust me they didn't know. The voice actress for Torque confirmed this on Twitter.
Why does the snake lady speaks like normal human ?
kelly is a character from xcom 2 right? one of our soldiers became canon?
The survivor from the tutorial missions who accompanied Bradford.
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