Playing electric-shock Operation vs an actual doctor
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2022
- Rohin of @MedlifeCrisis is an actual, qualified, practicing cardiologist. I am not.
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Thank you to Daniel and the team at the Old Operating Theatre Museum and Herb Garret, Southwark, London. 
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And yes, a lot of people have done this before! (The earliest I could find was Buzzfeed back in 2015.) But they didn't do it with electric shock pads, in an actual old operating theatre. In hindsight, there's probably a reason for that.
Why did you change the title from surgeon to doctor
Probably because it’s more likely to get views
@@humanhuman5024 i don't think Rohin is a surgeon? He's a "consulting cardiologist"
I think the "old operating theatre" part is the most remarkable. Doing shenanigans in historically important buildings? That's radical
@@zyansheep oh ok
Over the last few weeks I've been working on my left handed technique. My mortality rate soared initially, but families of the deceased understood one cannot make left handed omelettes without gross negligence.
But think of how many lives you'll be able to save in the future once you have enough practice and can operate on twice as many patients per shift!
@@SellymeYT Admittedly depth perception will suffer a bit when you only have one eye per patient, but that's nothing one can't adjust to.
I've also found that you can't make a tomlette without breaking a few greggs either.
able to using both right hand and left hand to perform a surgery is a game changer
Gotta go for that speed approach
"we have a cardiologist on site"
"If I have a cardiac arrest I will resuscitate myself"
Man this guy is so funny he should start a RUclips channel
not to mention "urologists do earn quite a lot of money" sick burn doc
_"You're paying for your surgery, did that not give you the clue that this was an American game?"_
@@Jeff_the_Hobo Like a magic!
/Natsuki, Abroad in Japan
"orthopaedic surgery is easy"
@@wabbylegs101 a google search says £93 K. That’s hardly bad earning 😆
"You're paying for your surgery here, Tom. Did that not give you a clue it's an American game?"
Brilliant
I felt that one...
Except they didn't get paid when they failed.
If there are thumbs down votes, they must be from americans for that one.
Fun fact, a ton of people pay for their own surgery in the UK: source: the UK government.
Alt title: Tom trying as much as humanly possible not to swear for 19 minutes straight
I think that's what hurt Tom the most ;)
@@BeheadedKamikaze probly
HECK dammit HECKing HECK
Tom: *Drops the tool into the patient, causing unknown amounts of damage to the patient*
Tom: "That does not count"
That's what malpractice insurance is for.
I mean, it’s tweezers, those get left inside people all the time, you just call it a mulligan and move on
Patient: understandable, have a nice day ✌️
4:56
Imagine you wake up mid-surgery with one of your surgeons screaming "I AM NOT A GOOD SURGEON"
Such is life for the guy in the board game.
Can I just say a massive "well done and thank you" to whoever did these subtitles?! The different colours for each person and for sound effects is perfect. BBC level (but in the good way, not the slow, bad ones for live things). I really hope more people see this and it catches on on RUclips!
Thank you for your service subtitle-person
ive always appreciated that tom is a loud advocate for proper closed captioning on youtube videos, especially now that viewers cant submit them theres really no excuse for youtubers of any level of notoriety to not have them whether they make them themselves or hire someone to do it
the yellow even matches Rohin's hat and top!
No. Well done too Scott for *paying money* for subtitles.
@@normanjeans2798 users can't submit, that option has been removed.
I have never laid my eye on an Operation set without half the missing pieces until this point
Well they probably bought multiple set just so it was perfect
And I’ve never laid. Full stop.
I have. Full stop.
only have one eye?
Judging by how this game ended, Tom's set no longer has all its pieces either.
4:20 I call foul! You are supposed to put the elastic band ON to the leg (not take it away). I think we were taught this in year 2 of medical school
Thank you! I'm glad I have the backup of a medical professional on this one.
@@douglasboyle6544 I remember that one as the completely impossible one to actually succeed at. Really annoying that they didn't even try to do it right.
@@markpolo97 well they probably just didn’t know
@@markpolo97 and show us your PhD
funny number
Its so funny in a way seeing these serious gentlemen like people play rock paper scissors and operations. Especially rohin with his dry tone and poker face with every joke makes everything 10x funny (and this is a compliment)
Rohin probably just had finished another 15 hour shift
@@leolego2 healthcare blues
Imagine the surgeon is operating on someone and then suddenly they say, "Oh I've made that much worse!"
A younger Tom would have built the shocking into the game itself.
I was just thinking & assuming that's how it had been rigged. I suppose there are safety implications that might not be insurable when it's not directly human controlled...
@@andrewmunro8830 there are, like dropping the tweezers into the operation table on accident as it happened in the video, or getting your hand stuck in a cramped position in which the tweezers would end up giving you long unwanted shocks
Seems more like a michael reeves stupid idea video section
@@DRakeTRofKBam hook it up to an arduino that uses the light voltage as an input signal. Have a state machine that switches on when the light goes on, but switches to an off state after a second or so.
@@fanrco766 yes its actually surprisingly easy to work aound this
Rohin's little badly controlled smirk/giggle every time Tom hollers in pain is... *chef's kiss* levels of hilarious evil 😂
I've watched his yt for 2 years and thats the most I've seen him smile
@@bisma1352 That just makes him seem even more evil! :D
I love Tom's content because it's either fascinating and insightful history and science, or it's playing children's games but with actual physical punishment. The duality of man.
or a non-extreme, entirely normal $0,000 game
The duality of Tom
It's an amazing display of conditioning of how strongly you both react even when the TENS doesn't work.
They need to upgrade to ELEVENS.
@@nitehawk86 This is Spinal Tap!
"These are all very American cards"
"Well, you're paying for your surgery here, Tom. Did that not give you a clue this is an American game?"
I would like to report a murder
"You're paying for your surgery here, Tom. Did that not give you a clue it's an American game?" Okay, OUCH. True, but OUCH.
I know we've got like, an immigration problem but just... move here guys. I literally got free heart surgery.
We won't judge.
And at these rates, it seems you get what you pay for! ;-)
The closed captioning in this video is fantastic. Different speakers (and sound effects) in different colors, captioning the music (e.g. at 1:28) as an aside in a different location and style, indicating if a person is whispering, subtle sound effects are in a lighter gray (7:42), loud sounds are bolded and in all caps (10:49), moving the captions to the top of the screen at the end so that it doesn't cover up the information at the bottom (18:35), etc. Very nice job.
So true! The person who did the subs did so well!!
+!
All the videos from this channel that I've seen so far have captions in the same style! Makes me so happy!
There's also the moment at 13:47 when the captions slowly fill themselves out while Tom screams. It's a fun moment to sell the effect while still staying clear about what's happening.
"Your paying for your surgery here Tom. Did that not give you a clue it's an American game?" (12:42)
That hit way too close to home.
The theater of this was phenomenal. The final table flip was extremely satisfying. 🤣
Haha, theatre…
Spoiler alert
And yes, I know lots of people have done this before! But I haven't. And I don't think the folks before did this with electric-shock pads. In an actual operating theatre...
"If I have a cardiac arrest I will resuscitate myself"
As in the old myths, the cardiologist rises anew from its heart attack.
you guys using a tens machine to torture each other than than for pain *relief* is very funny to me in and of itself
Anything can be a weapon.
I was giggling all the way through! and imagining doing this with my friends.
The way Rohin withstood the pain of the shocks was impressive. It's almost as though he didn't properly attach the pads and then concealed that with his sleeve.
shhuuut uuppppp
@@MedlifeCrisis your secret has been revealed
@@MedlifeCrisis I was starting to wonder 🤔
For shame! This is medical malpractice!
I wasn't going to SAY it.....but...long sleeves? Two layers? Hhhhmmmmm!!
Nah. Rohin's too ethical to bias the data that way....😈
Imagine trying to do this with electroboom.
They /might/ fair better, but the key thing here is the delivered electrical impulse from a TENS device, with the pads placed as in this video, causes the muscles to involuntarily contract. Electroboom might shrug off any pain due to having become inured to mild shocks, but their muscles are still going to respond.
@@AthAthanasius I think they meant 'imagine if Electroboom was the one to *build* the device." It'd be a much higher stakes game then! I suspect he'd also get shocked long before either one started actually playing the game as well.
@@batlrar yep.
@@batlrar ElectroBOOM actually did the same thing, altough without any health precautions. See the video titled "These Games will SHOCK Your Kids!! [DIY]".
@@AthAthanasius funny you should say, it’s incredibly difficult to adapt to electrical pain because we have a zero tolerance - because the nociceptors are being directly activated as well with the muscles
"A good surgeon wouldn't ask these questions Tom."
"I'm not a good surgeon!"
I! AM! NOT! A! SURGEON!
I suppose that "Tom does a double bypass" would have been difficult to arrange, yes
On himself maybe?
LMFAO
Not really your just need a 100% willing patient who wasn’t kidnapped just now and is totally willing to have it done, a cutting implement and a dream
@@ventedbus4917 I'd absolutely sign up for that.
As one of the many people with chronic pain who use a TENS machine ever day, I enjoyed the hell out of this.
Ditto, except instead of chronic pain it's just a fetish ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@aziztcf I'm jealous. It's no fun when you *have* to do it.
if you don't me mind me asking, how does it work/help? do you shock yourself to reduce pain? or is the voltage/current too low to do that
Wait it reduces pain? I thought it was used to avoid muscle atrophy on coma patients who can't feel it
@@litapd311 At least for me (very broken knee) it numbs the pain by gently sending current through the pain receptors, overwhelming them so that they only report 'hey we're getting static' and not 'hey we're getting absolute agony in here'. Since the static kinda stays for a while, twenty minutes of electrotherapy will numb my knee for hours so I can walk around and do stuff without pain. I'm not making my knee any worse by walking around, it's just still healing, so pain control helps.
The unsung hero is the subtitle. Never have seen a subtitle so explicit and distinct about Tom’s agony. “GAAAAAaaaaaa!”
The subtitler (?) is amazing. The videos where Tom played pub games with 3 friends were also excellently subtitled. There's special effects!
imagine as the sedatives start to kick in as you're on the operating table you hear the surgeon say "I think I'm going to try this left handed just for today"
I can’t stop being excited about the subtitles / closed captions on this channel. Every other time they raise the bar and jump over their head anyway. Just look at this with CC on: 13:07
I didn't even know subtitles could do that
Yes the subtitle maker is a god amongst us.
Never realized Rohin is so funny! Really digging the low-key humor from that guy. And I know they asked not to try this at home but now I really really want to!
His channel is hilarious, can't recommend enough
I second the recommendation for his RUclips channel. It's EXCELLENT.
His total deadpan sarcasm is as dry as the sahara, and totally hilarious! Love his channel.
Watching Tom get shocked was visceral. Rohin just flinched on the other hand. Nerves of steel?
more like nerves of rubber to not transmit the electricity.
I've never heard Dr Rohin giggle this much and I love it.
Doing this in THIS operating theatre is the Tomiest thing ever.
Tom, I can't help thinking that what you really really want is to be a gameshow host.
As an avid boardgamer, I'd like to remind you that there's a void in a lot of our hearts (or at least mine) that was left by Wil Wheaton's TableTop series ending.
I would do everything in whatever power I have to see a version of that show with you hosting it.
(I don't have much power to make that happen. A decent collection of games perhaps?)
Something like this would be great content for the TechDif channel, the four of them playing various boardgames and TTRPGs would be entertaining as hell
You're definitely spot on about the game show thing, he's actually got a tonne of content hosting game show webseries', someone's put together an entire playlist of them. I reckon in an alternate universe, Tom's a host of various games on the BBC rather than a youtuber.
@@Leeqzombie Very much so. "Bunch of people streaming D&D" is a bit of a common formula at this point but I'd give a kidney to see TechDif do Shadowrun.
The dramatic music, lighting, and zoom for each removal is amazing, but the sudden snap back to normal when the piece comes out gets me every time 🤣
Well, since you asked: Charlie Horse is typically used in North America to describe a specific muscle spasm (usually in the calf) that suddenly tightens the muscle and makes it incredibly painful to move. Normally obtained by stretching your legs.
EDIT: The way to fix it is to gently move the tightened muscle. Starting out slowly doing small movements then eventually expanding to slowly doing the full range of motion. Saw some people were saying it lasts a while, so I hope this helps some people. I've never had it last more than a couple minutes (including time it takes to find a spot to sit/lay down) using this. i.e. If your calf has the spasm then slowly move your foot up and down but only do small movements. Going too far will hurt. For your thigh you need to bend your knee. As you do more repetitions you'll get more range of motion until you're back to normal.
As for the spelling, it depends on the region you're in. The location of the spasm can be anywhere, though is most common in the legs. Most common are calf/thigh.
I actually thought a Charlie horse was in the thigh
Is that what we call cramp?
Oh and it hurts like hell and can last for quite some time
maybe it's different in the part of America I'm from, northern Midwest, but I've only ever heard a "Charlie horse" to be a punch delivered to a friend with one knuckle protruding farther out, aimed at the center of a large muscle such as the thigh, in an effort to /create/ a cramp in that muscle. that's what me and my friends were doing at age 11, anyways
Chaaaaaaarrrrrrlllllliiiiiieeeeeeeee!!!!!!1!!!!
I really wanna say thank you for your frankly amazing captions. I personally am not hard of hearing, but English is my second language and I enjoy having captions at the same time as audio make watching videos less mentally strainning.
Goodness, the captions are incredible! I love the fact that you always caption your videos. Also, I have never seen people play Operation with this many hindrances
For some reason, it's the video where Tom has a high potential of being in pain that I jump right into viewing it. 😂😂😂
I jump right into watching almost any video of his, but the high potential (hah!) for pain is not a deterrent.
I never get tired of Rohin’s dry sense of humor. In the lead up you can never tell if he’s making a joke or being completely serious. The intonation is exactly the same 😅
A Tom and Rohin collab! What an absolute dream duo x
I mean, Tom collabed with rohin like 3 times already (one on main channel) and I am dang glad for it
I think after this, Tom may not invite him back again...
"You're paying for the surgery, of course it's American." Shots fired, true facts, Dr. Rohin.
Don’t think I’ve enjoyed watching adults play with kids toys and suffering this much before
I just want to show my appreciation for the captions, whoever wrote them did a VERY good job!!
This channel is turning into the "Let's hurt Tom Scott or make him extremely uncomfortable" channel, and I'm 100% onboard for the ride!
Tom's really amping things up with these videos.
It's shocking really. I wonder watt he's going to do next
@@isaachenrikson3197 it took me a m-Ω-ent to get that one, but it definitely has potential
I enjoy the current content as much as I have before.
Watt you saying?
No, just increasing the potential results.
(Seriously, the TENS devices will be a non-trivial voltage but _low_ current.)
Between this and the recent defenestration, I feel like Tom's just on a streak of making content that involves him being injured in some way
Wat, Tom got defenestrated? When? I missed that?!
@@mirjanbouma Jill Bearup throws Tom Scott through a window It's on this channel
@@ravendangernavy3575 please link the video I want to see that
I'm surprised that "I regret everything about this" hasn't become Tom's catchphrase for everything over the years
I'm so used to Dr. Francis delivering his lines deadpan that it was admittedly a nice change of pace hearing him nervously giggle. Well done Tom 😁
This is definitely an electrifying twist on the stakes! I'm shocked that Tom managed not to swear even when he flipped the game board.
I'm going to guess that y'all bought a new copy because that's the only way you could have found a set where the electric parts work and all the pieces are there 😉
tom being the louder person in a duo video is something i wasnt expecting
That “you’re paying for surgery” bit was brilliant.
I love watching smart people being arguably stupid! It might just be my favorite type of YT content.
I never realised why they're called operating theatres, now I get it
Historically, surgeries were in fact performed as if they were stage performances. You had no privacy as a patient whatsoever. In theory, this was in order to allow medical students to watch and learn from the operations being performed, but most hospitals eventually ended up selling tickets to the general public....
@@adiuntesserande6893 it might happen again as an initiative to lower hospital bills in the US.
Wow, Tom is such a good sport! Like way to have some integrity, telling his opponent when it didn’t work even though it meant he’d get a pretty bad shock, incredibly respectable
The sight of the cardiologist resuscitating himself after getting a cardiac arrest is living in my head rent-free after that intro
This is the most tense game of Operation I've ever witnessed.
I can't decide if that's an intentional pun.
@@hughcaldwell1034 It's not.
I love Rohin's humour. He's so great
I love how often Rohin is showing up on Tom's channel! What a fantastic RUclipsr, doctor, educator, comedian, and guest. Hope his popularity continues growing
Shockingly good content, as always
Quite electrifying
A game full of tension.
Haha. James bond reference again.
... "Shocking"
If the surgeon DOESN'T win, we have larger things to worry about.
The thing is, I don't think he's a surgeon. Cardiologists just treat/diagnose people with heart problems, they're not the same as a cardiac surgeon.
@@danieljensen2626
Don’t all medical doctors learn to do at least some surgery, though?
I don't know but I thought surgeons are specialists
He's not Mr Francis - he's not a surgeon
He's a UK cardiologist, which is a medic not a surgeon. They do procedures such as revascularisation following myocardial infarction (opening up heart blood vessels after heart attack) or putting in pacemakers.
Equivalent surgeon is a cardiothoracic surgeon - they do heart transplants to mend broken hearts. Rohin is a heart breaker, not a heart mender.
That's some inTENS gameplay right there
I want to see this with the whole techdif crew
I can just see Gary blowing his top over this. I want it.
Rohin: "You're paying for your surgery here Tom, did that not give you a clue that this is a very American game?
Me (an American): Laughs nervously while crying Bald Eagle tears
A fitting end to the game, Tom Scott loses, gets shocked and rage quits by unintentionally flipping the board.
I love seeing a different side of Tom. His competitiveness is infectious
Rohin's comment "ah, the calm decorum of an operating theater" hits different if you know that historically surgeons have had a reputation for being wildly abusive, screaming at people and throwing things in their ORs (at least in the US). Not as much of a problem in todays culture, but there is still certainly cursing and people getting yelled at.
And that theater was possibly used in the pre anesthesia days.
And that theatre would be open to the public for entertainment value/ego worship.
NIGHTMARE level: the playing pieces are metal too.
Oh my, if you then do a speed run without touching once, you definitely reached god mode level in this game.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the effort that went into the captions? Multi colored for different subjects, including non-speaking roles (ie 1:28). Fantastic effort that.
its funny how the video where tom is screaming in visceral pain (and suspense) is the video where i realize how soothing dr rohin's voice is
I can't help but feel that every time Tom says, "It didn't work", it actually did work, but Tom is just a super masochist.
This could have been a Michael Reeves video, but in that case it would've been infinitely more chaotic and contained a large amount of tazers
I said it before and I'll say it again, the subtitle maker is a master of their craft. Thank you for the entertainment, Tom! Your suffering has brought us much joy (and hats off for your self restraint, I would have let curses fly!)
I love Rohin's dry humor.
Honestly Rohin is my absolute favorite guest presenter thusfar, and his channel and this episode show exactly why.
I'm seeing a new side to Tom: "Turn up the level of the electric shocks!"
Why am I reminded of the psychology experiment with people delivering what they thought were electric shocks to actors? The one where they were easily encouraged to deliver stronger shocks despite the screams...
Milgram's study in obedience!
Does it make me a sadist to enjoy Tom's screams? And his insane ability to avoid expletives even when in intense pain
thank you for the music cues and other non-dialogue captions Tom
(belly laughs)
🤣
“That was deeply unpleasant” is going to be my new motto for life.
I always remembered the rubber band being that you have to put it ON the pegs rather than take it off
I just googled the original hasbro rules. It appears you are correct. You place the rubber band in the hole but not around the pegs. A player must connect the rubber band to both pegs on their turn (if I understand the rules correctly)
Yep. I think they got confused with the rules there.
Null and void. Rematch.
@@AngryKittens They probably didn't read the rules. I wouldn't either to be honest.
@@therealcaldini Malpractice
*Dr Francis is an interventional cardiologist. He's not a surgeon
Edit: title now changed. Great video Tom and Rohin!
What's the difference?
I do have an MRCS though... 🧐
@@it6647 Cardiologists in general don't do surgery. That would be a cardiac surgeon.
I’ve not yet even finished watching, but I’m delighted to see you two collaborate again, and Tom’s bemused look of trepidation as Dr. Francis explains that you’ll be getting zapped reminds me of how I feel anytime I leave the house to do anything whatsoever.
Big fan of whoever writes the subtitles! Tom's screams are just perfect.
"One Broken Heart Behind" sounds like a solid 80's power ballad
I've always been very quick on how fast I "thumbs up" these videos, because it doesn't matter what it is, it's always a fantastic video, and I want you to know that I absolutely love these videos. This one is no different, truly fantastic content, from a producer I love, with a guest I also love, that is so far out your current content on the main channel, and I want it to continue.
Well done Tom
As someone whith a basic background in electrotech it always scares me when RUclipsrs do those stupid taser challengers and shock challenges without a doctor on hand, they're really taking a huge risk with their lives, even small amounts of electricity can kill a person if things go wrong.
Major props to Tom for opening the video with a disclaimer about how they are mitigating the risk to be as safe os possible!
Sidenote: If you want to really terrify me, just show me people destroying old CRT screens! The capacitors in those things are incredibly dangerous if messed with, and they hold a charge for a LONG time after being disconnected.
Fortunately, TENS machines are very safe and current limited. Even putting the pads over your heart isn't that bad (but do not do this, it's not worth risking it in case you have an unknown disorder that might raise your risk dramatically)
Whenever I work on something electronic, I unplug it and turn it on before doing anything (which will discharge the capacitors)
@@Tadfafty It depends entirely on the machine and the capacitors used. Modern tech is all low-voltage so capacitors on most things these days don't pose the same kind of hazard. CRT screens used full line strength and their capacitors stay charged for up to 6 months after being disconnected.
@@Whitewingdevil pluse most modern devices if designed with some reason have discharge resistors across capacitors, at least for capacitors that may get touched, like those in power supplies where you theoretically could touch them through the prongs on the plug.
As someone who is ambidexterous, I now wonder if I can make a habit of tricking people into 'upping the difficultly' by making things left-handed
My favorite part is the amount that tom is talking while the other guy is taking his turn. Its really wholesome though bc he seems genuinely just amped up off the shocks lmao
Making this video in this historical theater is so blasphemous, I'm loving it. It added a really cool twist on an already funny concept!
Now imagine a tournament with operation and a lot of surgeons
I also have to give mad props for the accessibility of the captions, as well as the size change to comedically emphasize Tom’s pain.
every single one of your videos is a banger. consistency, quality, and an amazing personality make you one of youtube's best creators, period. your enthusiasm for whatever cool thing it is you're exploring with us is infectious every time. there's an authenticity about you that's hard to find elsewhere.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE CARDS WITH THIS GAME?
I love how the subtitles captures Tom’s agony with bigger and smaller font sizes.
'Speed is often the strategy I go for, actually. Just in and out."
This is the type of fine motor control that I have always found impossible.