Back in 2007 I had a V6, with 50mm lift, 205/80/16 Bronco Diamondback tyres, 30mm spacers, internal roll cage and Cobra bucket seats and harnesses. I also fitted it with a 2004 full facelift front and rear. The rollcage was custom made by Dave Billings of Tornado Motorsport. I then had a Td4 which I built to the same spec but with a bolt in Safety Devices cage. Eventually I bought Dave's original Freelander he built with a full customised cage that went through the cab, in to the engine bay and formed the strut mounts. It was also fitted with Fox coilovers. The V6 ended up racing with the Help for Heroes team. There's plenty of pictures floating around the internet . Reg X622FRP.
Lifted my Freelander v6 50mm back in 2006. Fitted a rollcage too along with Sparco bucket seats and 4 point harnesses, M-Sport carbon fibre raised air intake and under body protection, plus M-Sport Oz racing wheels and braided brake hoses and a stainless modified exhaust system. Never saw another modded Freelander on the roads back then. Lift was supplied and fitted by FreelanderStorm, the bespoke rollcage was supplied and fitted by Dave Billings at Tornado Motorsport. Got a pic of it at the Billing Land Rover show in Land Rover Owner International and LRM magazines. Despite owning loads of Land Rovers over the years, I got nothing but the cold shoulder at the show as it was seen as a "hairdressers car" and "Not a real Land Rover". Modded a Td4 too with the same sort of stuff. but also fitted 205/80/16 bronco Diamondback tyres,plus some equally stupid MT tyres on a spare set of rims.This was well before the Freelander Challenge made doing these mods popular. Sold that in 2017. I own a Freelander 2 i6. Lifted with a MuddyMods kit and also fitted with a raised air intake and under body guards..
Love the v6 engine. I like the freelander because it’s seen as the ‘under dog’ in LR cycles. It’ a cliche to support the under dog. Great to see what you can do with them and it rides better than the old ladder frames ones.
Land Rover should pls bring back this 3dr Freelander 1 model. The jeep looks awesome especially when the roof is taken down. Great car great tyres great video ❤️
Informative video and great looking freelander, I have the Freelander 1, 2003 V6, 3 door and have just fitted 225/65/R17 Maxxis AT's without any lift and no rubbing whatsoever if anyone is interested. Cheers
Thanks, that is good to know. The v6 is a great engine, I recently bought one. There are a few videos on engine rebuilding etc that are on my channel if you ever need that info.
Excellent video... I did the 50mm lift a few weeks back and there were no videos up then... so this is a good video to have... one tip id add is that if you carfully cut the rear strut bracket that holds the break pipe. you can avoid all the hassle with the rear breaks..As the strut comes straight out.. Cut and bend... then bend back when done.. and for anyone wanting to do the 50mm.... dont.... Just stick with the 40mm. The extra 10mm is not worth the extra hassle involved. Keep up the good work mate... Ive watched all your freelander videos, and learnt so much.. definatly a help....
Great video, thanks for sharing. I fitted a 50mm kit a few years ago and would not recommend it. Even with the track rods swapped I had to hack into the chassis legs which is not good. I also found it killed the front half shafts. I think 40mm is the max that you should go. If your interested I made a thread about it in Landyzone.
Thankyou very much for this, the detail was great and I have now done this to my freelander 1 in prep for a summer trip in NZ. All ive got to do now is find the best wheel tyre combo to fit the gap.
Very good explanation and the Freeland is looking great, well done.Just for information, i put 235/75r15 tires on my "Freely" without any modification and it works perfect. On 15" size tires you do have much more opportunities on the market.
Hey, thanks for sharing. What wheels do you have? Im thinking about 225 75 16 or 235 75 15 on not original freelanders et 40 steel wheels. Is there any rubbing when you go fast on bumpy road or off road? Tnx
@@denismilinkovic7894 Hi i put on "Rial Milano (Titânio) 6.5x15 ET45 5x114.3 70.1" wheels on my freelander. There is no rubbing, not off road or on road. I put Maxxis Bighorn MT on. This are massive wheels, works good, looks good(give an email address, i will send pic). you do not need any modifikation at all.
Hi I needed to have a more aggressive tyre because I own some land and was continually getting stuck in the mud I could get out the car and watch all four wheels turning in the muddy slush I found by just going wider from 225 to 235 I could buy General Graber AT tyres Ever since than I've had no more getting stuck and have been very impressed. Like to point out that I didn't want to buy 16"wheels to take higher side walls If you don't want all that mechanical work 235/55/17 will do the job very well
very informative ! i have mine stripped down for some rust treatment and tidying up. I am now considering a small lift kit as i have so much removed wheel arch liners etc.
You can swap the track rods left to right, right to left, which puts the pinch bolts on the top, giving you more clearance as the suspension reaches full droop.
Yes agreed thanks, I did briefly mention that somewhere in the video, even though I didn’t do it on mine. It’s a pain getting those tracking rod ends off. I’ve bent or broken two tools and the rubber boot often gets damaged as well in the process.
Wheel alignment is extremely important to do after fitting a lift kit.I had brand new Goodyear Wrangler a/t tyres fitted that weren't cheap. I thought I'd try and get away with not getting the wheel alignment done, but after only around 2 weeks after fitting the lift, I'd scrubbed the outer edges of the front tyres and had to scrap them. Costly mistake !
Hello are you saying that after fitting the lift kit tyre alignment should be done before attempting to drive off? How can wheel adjustment be done when the tyres are already fitted in the car? Clarify me pls. I want to use the lift kit to raise my 3dr Freelander 1? What else would I need pls? Thanks
@@nanjewabetondi8567 Hello friend. Sorry if I confused you. What I mean to say is that it is VERY important to get the wheels aligned as soon as you possibly can after fitting the lift kit. The longer you drive around before having the wheels aligned, the more damage you will do to your tyres. As well as the lift kit, it is also wise to get camber bolts and extended stainless steel brake hoses (part number TF657GD).
@@nanjewabetondi8567 There are several places on the internet. Just type in "Extended brake lines Freelander 1". This will give you various places to buy from. Good luck with your Freelander.Regards from the UK.
comeinhandynow excellent channel by the way! I can see how you adore your Freelander always tweaking and making slight alterations to my own freelander, however, this is a little out of my depth...seeing as how you have both the tools and the patients would you be interested in having a pop at raising mine 40mm? Kind regards
Great video. They really are smashing cars. Although my land rover owner friend says that land rover owners look down on the freelander. I love mine. Do you have any problem with a sloppy gear linkage ? I have done some research and found 2 types. One is cheap nylon bushes , and the other is a brace effect. That is mine . It is sometimes and going to tackle in next few weeks when weather improves . Just wondered if it something you had noticed on yours ? 👍👏🏻
Thanks, agreed. I have had a discovery1 but like the lighter more modern freelander partly because others see it as a poorer cousin! Be nice to show what it can do. Snorkel fitting today I think. The gear linkage is ok in mine, it was only a bit stiff and needed lubing up when i got it. Good luck with yours.
Fitting this lift kit, the front drive shafts cv joints will be stressed & break. I know a Freelander specialist who frequently has this problem with customers who have raised their cars with lift kits
I would say it all just about fits ok with no rubbing of the tyres. The steering arms touch the box section of chassis when off the ground and on full lock, but without getting stuck. It passed the MOT ok.
Did you have any usues with tyre rub when turning with this setup?? I have just bought the 50/40 lift kit and ordered 225 70 r17 general grabber at's for my freelander 1... also 25mm spacers..
No but I didn’t use spacers, no need and may make a touch of the outer edge on the wheel arch more likely.. I did trim a bit of surround plastic however to make it look better and give more safety margin. Post some pics when you get it done, I would be interested to see it.
Greetings. I did some calculations working out the different tyre sizes. The first is the tyre shown in this video, which just about fits with a bit of plastic trimming for extra safety margin on the clearance. No spacers on original alloys, lift or not doesn't make much difference. The last column is the tyre size (diameter) in inches, so 29.4 inches: 225 70 17 29.40.
Having problems with youtube getting the numbers published! Try again with the rest: These are some 16 inch sizes with some comments I picked up online from other people: 225 75 16 29.29 common ok w spacer
If I wanna fit a 40mm lift kit to the Sport Version (factory lowered by 3cm) do i still need to use camber bolts and to cut there to fit 235 65 17 Insa Turbo Dakar tyres ? I have 30mm spacers as well.
I would think you should still cut under the steering arms for safety margin but have a look when you fit the lift. You may not need camber bolts, but it is handy as it allows some camber adjustment.
I’ve still got some more mods to do, snorkel, exhaust, sump guard and am waiting for a bit warmer weather. I’m anticipating it should be quite good. Hope to report back when thoroughly off road trialled.
@@comeinhandynow Excellent, thank you. Reason I ask is I'm a discovery td5 guy but I've got a Freelander td4 and I'm looking at building it up as an off roader for my little lad to learn in. I have a feeling with a lift, the right tyres and the 160bhp remap it'll be an absolute devil off road!
@@bigbill74scots I think you are right. I also had a disco1 which I used to do some offroading in. The only downside was it’s weight and maybe the diff height. So I am also keen to see how the Freelander does. By most accounts it is surprisingly good.
@@comeinhandynow Well, I've booked the auto spark (I own a garage) to come and fit a 160bhp map to the ECU. Should be done by next week. I've ordered some 15mm wheel spacers to improve the stance and turning circle as well. Let's see what the little hippo will actually do 😁
@@comeinhandynow haha thought so I got all the tools and gear to do it I brought the td4 sport but the previous owner had removed the prop shaft so I want to replace it and make it abit more fun in the mud
@@davidbrowring8874 Sounds like a good plan. From what I read the sport is a bit lower than standard, with I guess shorter springs, so might be worth changing to standard springs at the same time to get more height back.
@@comeinhandynow tell me freelander, before 2003 m47 diesel, with what Vp44 injection system? Has Komon Rail been installed on the restyling since 2004? SO ALL M47 PRE-STYLING THERE ARE NO COMONIRAIL?
@@carhard_oldmachine2743 your talking rover 2.0 DI vs bmw td4 m47R 2 completely different snimals the R depicting rover deployment of the m47 and has chocolate case crank unlike the strong bmw crank
Your choice. You need to find one you can trust to do it all properly and pay a considerable fee for all the labour involved. Check they have done a full wheel alignment and that the steering arms don’t catch when the car is jacked up and on full lock.
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Back in 2007 I had a V6, with 50mm lift, 205/80/16 Bronco Diamondback tyres, 30mm spacers, internal roll cage and Cobra bucket seats and harnesses. I also fitted it with a 2004 full facelift front and rear. The rollcage was custom made by Dave Billings of Tornado Motorsport.
I then had a Td4 which I built to the same spec but with a bolt in Safety Devices cage. Eventually I bought Dave's original Freelander he built with a full customised cage that went through the cab, in to the engine bay and formed the strut mounts. It was also fitted with Fox coilovers.
The V6 ended up racing with the Help for Heroes team. There's plenty of pictures floating around the internet . Reg X622FRP.
Interesting, thanks.
Lifted my Freelander v6 50mm back in 2006. Fitted a rollcage too along with Sparco bucket seats and 4 point harnesses, M-Sport carbon fibre raised air intake and under body protection, plus M-Sport Oz racing wheels and braided brake hoses and a stainless modified exhaust system. Never saw another modded Freelander on the roads back then. Lift was supplied and fitted by FreelanderStorm, the bespoke rollcage was supplied and fitted by Dave Billings at Tornado Motorsport. Got a pic of it at the Billing Land Rover show in Land Rover Owner International and LRM magazines. Despite owning loads of Land Rovers over the years, I got nothing but the cold shoulder at the show as it was seen as a "hairdressers car" and "Not a real Land Rover". Modded a Td4 too with the same sort of stuff. but also fitted 205/80/16 bronco Diamondback tyres,plus some equally stupid MT tyres on a spare set of rims.This was well before the Freelander Challenge made doing these mods popular. Sold that in 2017. I own a Freelander 2 i6. Lifted with a MuddyMods kit and also fitted with a raised air intake and under body guards..
Love the v6 engine. I like the freelander because it’s seen as the ‘under dog’ in LR cycles. It’ a cliche to support the under dog. Great to see what you can do with them and it rides better than the old ladder frames ones.
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Land Rover should pls bring back this 3dr Freelander 1 model. The jeep looks awesome especially when the roof is taken down. Great car great tyres great video ❤️
Thanks. It is also just the right size. Some of their modern cars are also great.
Informative video and great looking freelander, I have the Freelander 1, 2003 V6, 3 door and have just fitted 225/65/R17 Maxxis AT's without any lift and no rubbing whatsoever if anyone is interested. Cheers
Thanks, that is good to know. The v6 is a great engine, I recently bought one. There are a few videos on engine rebuilding etc that are on my channel if you ever need that info.
Excellent video... I did the 50mm lift a few weeks back and there were no videos up then... so this is a good video to have... one tip id add is that if you carfully cut the rear strut bracket that holds the break pipe. you can avoid all the hassle with the rear breaks..As the strut comes straight out.. Cut and bend... then bend back when done.. and for anyone wanting to do the 50mm.... dont.... Just stick with the 40mm. The extra 10mm is not worth the extra hassle involved. Keep up the good work mate... Ive watched all your freelander videos, and learnt so much.. definatly a help....
Thanks for your support and useful tip.
How was the 50mm? Got to fit mine this weekend
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I fitted a 50mm kit a few years ago and would not recommend it. Even with the track rods swapped I had to hack into the chassis legs which is not good. I also found it killed the front half shafts. I think 40mm is the max that you should go.
If your interested I made a thread about it in Landyzone.
Thanks for that. Glad I only did 40mm then.
Thankyou very much for this, the detail was great and I have now done this to my freelander 1 in prep for a summer trip in NZ. All ive got to do now is find the best wheel tyre combo to fit the gap.
You’re welcome. Glad it helped.
Very good explanation and the Freeland is looking great, well done.Just for information, i put 235/75r15 tires on my "Freely" without any modification and it works perfect. On 15" size tires you do have much more opportunities on the market.
Cheers. Glad to hear your enjoying yours. I’ve got some plans to do a home made snorkel next.
Hey, thanks for sharing. What wheels do you have? Im thinking about 225 75 16 or 235 75 15 on not original freelanders et 40 steel wheels.
Is there any rubbing when you go fast on bumpy road or off road? Tnx
@@denismilinkovic7894 Hi i put on "Rial Milano (Titânio) 6.5x15 ET45 5x114.3 70.1" wheels on my freelander. There is no rubbing, not off road or on road. I put Maxxis Bighorn MT on. This are massive wheels, works good, looks good(give an email address, i will send pic). you do not need any modifikation at all.
@@ironmantriathlon6297 Tnx for fast reply. Pls send pic, I would love to see it. Im much closer to buy 235/75/15 now. dstrashmail123 (@) yahoo
The same setup as mine
You can see how it looks on (X5OR) BUT i added a home made lift kit to get a better GC
Hi I needed to have a more aggressive tyre because I own some land and was continually getting stuck in the mud I could get out the car and watch all four wheels turning in the muddy slush I found by just going wider from 225 to 235 I could buy General Graber AT tyres
Ever since than I've had no more getting stuck and have been very impressed. Like to point out that I didn't want to buy 16"wheels to take higher side walls If you don't want all that mechanical work 235/55/17 will do the job very well
Thanks, good to know.
very informative ! i have mine stripped down for some rust treatment and tidying up. I am now considering a small lift kit as i have so much removed wheel arch liners etc.
Cheers. Have fun with yours.
I'd 40 mm lift kit and 205 80 16 mud tyres on my freelander van, was smashing off road if a bit loud on the motorway!
Yep, mud tyres are a bit noisey! These MT51’s are better than more aggressive mud tyres but still make a bit. Bearable though.
You can swap the track rods left to right, right to left, which puts the pinch bolts on the top, giving you more clearance as the suspension reaches full droop.
Yes agreed thanks, I did briefly mention that somewhere in the video, even though I didn’t do it on mine. It’s a pain getting those tracking rod ends off. I’ve bent or broken two tools and the rubber boot often gets damaged as well in the process.
I've just got some 235-55-18 going to give them a try, unsure of inch sizes though to go off of your chart
Great video, this will help alot with my next project 👍
Cheers
Wheel alignment is extremely important to do after fitting a lift kit.I had brand new Goodyear Wrangler a/t tyres fitted that weren't cheap. I thought I'd try and get away with not getting the wheel alignment done, but after only around 2 weeks after fitting the lift, I'd scrubbed the outer edges of the front tyres and had to scrap them. Costly mistake !
Agreed, very important. I covered that in the video as well. It can be done DIY.
Hello are you saying that after fitting the lift kit tyre alignment should be done before attempting to drive off? How can wheel adjustment be done when the tyres are already fitted in the car?
Clarify me pls. I want to use the lift kit to raise my 3dr Freelander 1? What else would I need pls?
Thanks
@@nanjewabetondi8567 Hello friend. Sorry if I confused you. What I mean to say is that it is VERY important to get the wheels aligned as soon as you possibly can after fitting the lift kit. The longer you drive around before having the wheels aligned, the more damage you will do to your tyres.
As well as the lift kit, it is also wise to get camber bolts and extended stainless steel brake hoses (part number TF657GD).
@@ianbeale2527 Thank very much sir. It’s very clear now. Pls where can I find extended stainless steel brake hoses pls?
@@nanjewabetondi8567 There are several places on the internet. Just type in "Extended brake lines Freelander 1". This will give you various places to buy from.
Good luck with your Freelander.Regards from the UK.
Great video very informative! Unrelated question what do you use to keep that black trim so dark? Thanks
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comeinhandynow excellent channel by the way! I can see how you adore your Freelander always tweaking and making slight alterations to my own freelander, however, this is a little out of my depth...seeing as how you have both the tools and the patients would you be interested in having a pop at raising mine 40mm? Kind regards
Thanks. It took a lot of effort, so no I wouldn’t what to do it again in a hurry, sorry.
comeinhandynow I can imagine, was worth tasking, nevertheless, keep up the great work 👍🏼
@@lukejoy4223 Cheers. Thanks for the encouragement.
Great video. They really are smashing cars. Although my land rover owner friend says that land rover owners look down on the freelander. I love mine. Do you have any problem with a sloppy gear linkage ? I have done some research and found 2 types. One is cheap nylon bushes , and the other is a brace effect. That is mine . It is sometimes and going to tackle in next few weeks when weather improves . Just wondered if it something you had noticed on yours ? 👍👏🏻
Thanks, agreed. I have had a discovery1 but like the lighter more modern freelander partly because others see it as a poorer cousin! Be nice to show what it can do. Snorkel fitting today I think. The gear linkage is ok in mine, it was only a bit stiff and needed lubing up when i got it. Good luck with yours.
Thank you for this video sir ATB and God bless!
Thanks.
Fitting this lift kit, the front drive shafts cv joints will be stressed & break. I know a Freelander specialist who frequently has this problem with customers who have raised their cars with lift kits
No, that is not my experience so far.
170000km without issues
Well done 👍
Thank you 👍
Great video what is the black paint you used on all the rusty bits lol, it look great 👍
Thanks. If you mean the underneath bits then see my other video on this. It’s waxoyl black.
Great video 👌
Thanks 👍
Do you get any rubbing at all? Do the arms hit the chassis when the wheels are off the ground? Want to lift mine but want to get it right! Nice vid 👌
I would say it all just about fits ok with no rubbing of the tyres. The steering arms touch the box section of chassis when off the ground and on full lock, but without getting stuck. It passed the MOT ok.
@@comeinhandynow Thanks! I have watched most of your vids since buying freelander. Good stuff! Did yo have to extend the break lines?
@@thomasblackwood4404 No I didn’t but I did bend the mounting brackets a bit to make the brake lines fit better when I changed them later on.
Did you have any usues with tyre rub when turning with this setup?? I have just bought the 50/40 lift kit and ordered 225 70 r17 general grabber at's for my freelander 1... also 25mm spacers..
No but I didn’t use spacers, no need and may make a touch of the outer edge on the wheel arch more likely.. I did trim a bit of surround plastic however to make it look better and give more safety margin. Post some pics when you get it done, I would be interested to see it.
Great guide. I want to lift my FL1 by 4cm. How much tire can I put on my 16 "wheels? 225/75 r16 does it fit?
Thank you, greetings from Hungary.
Greetings. I did some calculations working out the different tyre sizes. The first is the tyre shown in this video, which just about fits with a bit of plastic trimming for extra safety margin on the clearance. No spacers on original alloys, lift or not doesn't make much difference. The last column is the tyre size (diameter) in inches, so 29.4 inches: 225 70 17 29.40.
Having problems with youtube getting the numbers published! Try again with the rest: These are some 16 inch sizes with some comments I picked up online from other people: 225 75 16 29.29 common ok w spacer
235 75 16 29.88 apparently fit with modular according to muddymods, Others said need to remove mud flaps, cut liners, with spacers
@@comeinhandynow Thanks for the answer,helpful to me!
Have a nice day!
Hi!
My question : do I need longer brake hoses to lift 40mm?
If I wanna fit a 40mm lift kit to the Sport Version (factory lowered by 3cm) do i still need to use camber bolts and to cut there to fit 235 65 17 Insa Turbo Dakar tyres ? I have 30mm spacers as well.
I would think you should still cut under the steering arms for safety margin but have a look when you fit the lift. You may not need camber bolts, but it is handy as it allows some camber adjustment.
I had the a problem when it was destroying my cv joints as the drivers shafts where stretched is this a camber issue?
Don’t see why that would be a camber issue.
do you need longer brake lines when fitting the 5cm liftkit?
I only fitted 4cm and they were ok. I think it would be wise on 5cm.
Ok thanks!
How is it off road in the mud?
I’ve still got some more mods to do, snorkel, exhaust, sump guard and am waiting for a bit warmer weather. I’m anticipating it should be quite good. Hope to report back when thoroughly off road trialled.
@@comeinhandynow Excellent, thank you. Reason I ask is I'm a discovery td5 guy but I've got a Freelander td4 and I'm looking at building it up as an off roader for my little lad to learn in.
I have a feeling with a lift, the right tyres and the 160bhp remap it'll be an absolute devil off road!
@@bigbill74scots I think you are right. I also had a disco1 which I used to do some offroading in. The only downside was it’s weight and maybe the diff height. So I am also keen to see how the Freelander does. By most accounts it is surprisingly good.
@@comeinhandynow Well, I've booked the auto spark (I own a garage) to come and fit a 160bhp map to the ECU. Should be done by next week.
I've ordered some 15mm wheel spacers to improve the stance and turning circle as well.
Let's see what the little hippo will actually do 😁
Great vid do you wanna do mine 😂😂👍👍👍
Thanks. No, too time consuming!
@@comeinhandynow haha thought so I got all the tools and gear to do it I brought the td4 sport but the previous owner had removed the prop shaft so I want to replace it and make it abit more fun in the mud
@@davidbrowring8874 Sounds like a good plan. From what I read the sport is a bit lower than standard, with I guess shorter springs, so might be worth changing to standard springs at the same time to get more height back.
did u used original shocks?
Yep.
Why are the spacers 40mm? Why can't it be larger, for example 60 mm or 70?
The higher the lift, the more the suspension arms angle down and there is a limit on how far they can go. Also driveshafts get more stressed.
@@comeinhandynow thanks!
@@comeinhandynow tell me freelander, before 2003 m47 diesel, with what Vp44 injection system? Has Komon Rail been installed on the restyling since 2004? SO ALL M47 PRE-STYLING THERE ARE NO COMONIRAIL?
@@carhard_oldmachine2743 your talking rover 2.0 DI vs bmw td4 m47R 2 completely different snimals the R depicting rover deployment of the m47 and has chocolate case crank unlike the strong bmw crank
Эти колеса и так влезли бы без проставок.
Yes they do.
Super
Cheers.
Sir i need the engine some to buy
Engines here: ebay.us/53k6rS
What Tire size are they
Kumho MT51 225/70 R17
I've got 16 inch modulars what size can I get away with, with a 40mm lift kit from muddy mods
What size of tyres did you put on? Thank you
225/70 r 17
MERCI
Cheers
Too much work, I take to garage to fix it.
Your choice. You need to find one you can trust to do it all properly and pay a considerable fee for all the labour involved. Check they have done a full wheel alignment and that the steering arms don’t catch when the car is jacked up and on full lock.
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