GEAR DUMP | Whats in Kody's Backcountry Pack

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @jaymac8971
    @jaymac8971 4 года назад +8

    Spare sleep system at the truck is a great idea, THANK YOU!!!

  • @stevekillick6260
    @stevekillick6260 4 года назад +5

    My wife chirps me when she asked what I was doing and I said “watching a guy explain what he keeps in his backpack” but I got lots of deadly info. Keep it up!

  • @jimc7991
    @jimc7991 4 года назад +1

    Great idea with the instant mashed potatoes, i did that on my elk hunt & had a couple times when I got too much water in my MtnHouse. Thanks for that tip. Can't wait to see this seasons new video's.

  • @craigleonardjr
    @craigleonardjr 4 года назад +1

    This is collectively the worst grammar I’ve ever seen in a comments section, but I love the enthusiasm!
    Thanks for taking the time to make videos like this!!

  • @jacobzimmerman3330
    @jacobzimmerman3330 4 года назад +8

    Thanks Kody. One of the best gear videos and I've watched most of them. I second the request on meat care. Appreciate you guys. Good luck this season.

  • @jasonjohn1978
    @jasonjohn1978 3 года назад +1

    Great gear dump. It’s always good to see if someone’s doing something more efficiently then you and get some new ideas. My setup is constantly evolving and changing throughout the years. Thanks again for getting in depth and explaining why you carry each item and the pros and cons.

  • @ericwiitala5407
    @ericwiitala5407 4 года назад +2

    There's a lot of good stuff in this bag dump I never thought of. Saving this video and definitely going to watch it again.

  • @jasonlind7
    @jasonlind7 4 года назад

    I’ve never backpacked, so I learned a lot from this. Love the ideas of daily meal bags prepped before the trip, and extra sleep equipment so you don’t have to unpack at the truck or be forced to haul all your gear out at the same time as meat.

  • @craigambroson2482
    @craigambroson2482 4 года назад

    Back tracking to old videos. Kody, thanks for new ideas for an old guy. Now I know another reason for your great attitude and patience all elk season, besides being a Beaver fan you pack red wine for the evenings. Please keep up the great videos.

  • @poppamad979
    @poppamad979 3 года назад

    Good Info. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I could do the quilt, but great to hear what you carry.

  • @gonesqautchin4066
    @gonesqautchin4066 4 года назад +1

    Yes 👍 very helpful my dad and I are doing are first back country trip this year, that for showing all of us it possible. It only take one!

  • @williamwarren6216
    @williamwarren6216 4 года назад

    Kody, thanks for the time and thought that you put into this video. I appreciate how you put things in simple terms and show us how you do your thing. Good luck this season!

  • @spartacusantipas4580
    @spartacusantipas4580 4 года назад

    Thank you for spending the time and sharing. Your experience and setup helps me plan for my hunt sometime in the future.

  • @chasebarnes192
    @chasebarnes192 4 года назад

    Good stuff kody. Thanks for showing
    All the different tent setups.

  • @TheTimmyturner7
    @TheTimmyturner7 4 года назад +3

    Those bro packs are awesome it would be sweet to be able to afford one oh well maybe next year

  • @MrBowNaxe
    @MrBowNaxe 4 года назад +1

    Great stuff Cody! Always like to see what other folks pack. I always pack way more than I need but that's because I'm never more than a day away from base camp but plan for two or three. Can't wait to see what Trevor has in store.

  • @Guitardist
    @Guitardist 4 года назад

    I love the spa music in the backround with the wind chimes. So zen lol. Was that like a spa version of Take My Breath Away? We kick off Sept. 12th for elk in WA. Thankfully bear starts Aug. 1st so that helps take the edge off. Good luck this year fellas!

  • @leonardbutler4361
    @leonardbutler4361 4 года назад +15

    I've herd you say you have used chapstick for bow wax..my question is, have you ever used bow wax for chapstick?

  • @michaelrichards6345
    @michaelrichards6345 3 года назад

    Always looking for ways to improve my pack and sleep system. Thanks guys!

  • @randymcclellan9569
    @randymcclellan9569 4 года назад

    Nice to see how you packed, obviously experience has proven it.

  • @hro_bowhunting7295
    @hro_bowhunting7295 4 года назад

    Going on my first backpack trip been watching multiple pack dump videos. Definitely going to be using some of your info to heart. Great video!

  • @lec532
    @lec532 4 года назад

    Very helpful thank you guys, Especially Steve the man definitely didn't waste time or words..

  • @JSANDERS247
    @JSANDERS247 4 года назад

    Being from the south and a rural area I was having a hard time with tents.. We don't have access to a store front that sells light weight gear.. seeing your tent and sleeping setup really helps.. i didn't want to order an expensive setup from pictures on the internet..

  • @benjaminjonholman
    @benjaminjonholman 4 года назад

    I am also a wet wipe guy. But pro-tip, get wipes like these! They're dry so they are super light and fragrance free, too. Just add a few drops of water and you're ready to clean up. Just look on Amazon for these ( WYSI Multi-Purpose Expandable Wipes, Just Add Water - 100 Compressed Tablets ). I'm sure there are more brands but that's what I've used and I love them.

  • @Workout1515
    @Workout1515 4 года назад +1

    Good stuff. The leuko tape is something I never thought of. I will be carrying that now. Thank you

  • @Venuc4
    @Venuc4 4 года назад +4

    Great info Kody, I packed everything for my Colorado trip just this week and this video gave me some new ideas. One thing I would love to hear from the BRO's is more about meat care. When you mentioned "going into town to take care of the meat", what does that look like? Getting dry ice for the coolers? Finding a place to hang the meat till you get done with the rest of your hunt (very curious about where you would go for this)? Or do you drop it off for processing? I personally want to be my own butcher. THANKS AGAIN for all the great content! Good luck this year!

    • @bornandraisedoutdoors
      @bornandraisedoutdoors  4 года назад +5

      I will try to put together a video on meat care before season. After all, it's the most important!!

    • @Venuc4
      @Venuc4 4 года назад +1

      GREAT! One thing you’ve touched on in the past and I would love to hear another piece of info on is canning meat. That sounds like a fantastic idea with as much meat as an elk has, what have you found that works and doesn’t work and recipe or two would be fantastic. Nothing crazy just maybe your favorite seasoning for pre canning. Thanks, I look forward to all your videos!

  • @mobilewintercamp7515
    @mobilewintercamp7515 4 года назад +1

    I don’t hunt but found your channel through the algorithm. I watch hunting stuff to see the scenery and the camping techniques. It’s such a crossover activity with hiking. Many of the same products and techniques. Do you hot tent? That’s how I got into watching hunting videos. I’m all over tent designs and I’m going to check out the Nemo tent, haven’t been keeping up with stuff for a bit. Thanks 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷⛺️🌄

  • @mototurkey5289
    @mototurkey5289 4 года назад

    First aid kit contents. Gotta do something there. Bag temp ratings? Personal yes, but what do you find comfortable enough? My experience with quilts is that they are cold... thanks and good luck this season!

  • @PrairieThunder
    @PrairieThunder 4 года назад

    Awesome video, lots of info and I’ve sent it to a couple buddies. Never been elk hunting, hope to next year. Make more videos like this people are craving info even the smallest things you use everyday are completely new to a person like me...I liked the shelter examples at the end too, something else I know little about. Thanks Kody

  • @randyleppell8885
    @randyleppell8885 4 года назад +1

    As always, well done. Great material, literally sat down and wrote out a new packing list. 2 things popped up that I either missed or am curious as to how you address them and that's general First Aid and rain gear for during the day/hunting. Thanks for all you guys do!!! I really learn a lot from you guys.

    • @Breezio69
      @Breezio69 4 года назад +1

      From what I've seen in most of their videos is it looks like they have a couple pieces of dual purpose gear for rain gear. In most videos (early season) I notice that they use light jackets that are waterproof, but serve as a jacket in colder times of the day. I havent noticed that they pack a ton of rain gear though because whenever weather sets in it seems they always stop and get out of it best they can and dry gear/clothes out.
      For the first aid I was curious as well. I have only seen them talk about foot bandages.
      I pack in patches for my feet, antibiotic ointment, various band aids sizes and butterfly stitches/tape. Although after just tweaking my knee on the hunt this year, I will probably buy some instant cold compress pads and an ace bandage.

    • @randyleppell8885
      @randyleppell8885 4 года назад

      @@Breezio69 Thanks for the reply Bret. I keep a larger kit like that back at the truck but when I'm out for a day or more with just whats in my pack, I throw in a "Stop the bleed" kit, and chest seal with a few bandaids and blister tape. That pack just keeps getting heavier! LOL!!

    • @Breezio69
      @Breezio69 4 года назад

      @@randyleppell8885 I have an army medic kit I keep in the truck. Its a backpack that folds out flat into 4 compartments, one compartment is burn related, one is cuts and scrapes, one is surgical/stitching, and the last one is supplies like tape, wraps, gauze, gloves, etc etc.

    • @AMCONNorthernUtah
      @AMCONNorthernUtah 4 года назад

      @@Breezio69 That's awesome! Do you have a medical background? I'm just a knuckle dragger, some first aid tricks up my sleeve but not a whole lot of formal training beyond TCCC, scrapes, burns, etc.

  • @josephreyes9819
    @josephreyes9819 3 года назад

    Thanks Cody, super helpful and great tips!

  • @Seafish316
    @Seafish316 4 года назад

    I'm sure you have it somewhere but first aid is a must. Guy down the road from me slipped off a log and drove his knocked arrow clear through his leg. Blood clotting powder probably saved his life.

  • @erikberglund4682
    @erikberglund4682 4 года назад

    Great video! Super informative!!! First season spike camping this year so great for ideas!

  • @tinyman_101
    @tinyman_101 4 года назад +1

    i have to try these "darn tough" socks i see them everywhere

    • @danielbabcock7004
      @danielbabcock7004 4 года назад +1

      Theyre the best, lifetime warranty no questions asked

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 4 года назад

      Tiny they are worth every penny

  • @tri_nofeet
    @tri_nofeet 4 года назад

    Thanks Kody! Good luck this year

  • @CommanderCud
    @CommanderCud 4 года назад

    Well made video and good information. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @das801
    @das801 4 года назад

    Back ground music great for going to sleep. Great vid

  • @josephlutes5978
    @josephlutes5978 4 года назад +1

    A lot of good information thanks for sharing!

  • @timbailey4069
    @timbailey4069 4 года назад +1

    Cost breakdown and alternatives would be awesome for us wannabes nubies. Thanks! Keep up the vids!

  • @mbs7567
    @mbs7567 2 года назад

    A&D ointment is a godsend.

  • @Bobb1julie
    @Bobb1julie 3 года назад

    I’m keeping it simple Kody “”” 👍 NICE PRESENTATION 🦌

  • @GGGoutdoorsKingdomConnection
    @GGGoutdoorsKingdomConnection 4 года назад

    Absolutely phenomenal! Loving yours all’s content! Eating it up and learning a lot to help accomplish the elk goal in the future! Thank u guys!

  • @grizzphillips9730
    @grizzphillips9730 4 года назад

    Really good info 👍. Been shaking out gear for a October hunt

  • @doughill9828
    @doughill9828 4 года назад +1

    Great video keep them coming

  • @hammertime714
    @hammertime714 2 года назад

    Very informational video Kody, lots to be considered. Have any of the B&RO crew used the Stone Glacier ULT tent, vestibule, mesh insert/tub floor ? Weighs like 27 ounces with 9 titanium stakes

  • @mitchtyler6745
    @mitchtyler6745 4 года назад

    It would be great in the description of the video is there a way you guys can add a link to the “shopping list” of all the gear you guys carry? I am new to elk hunting and went out this year for my first time this year. I was in Colorado the first week of bow season and got stuck in that good amount of snow that was dumped. Was super excited on my first diy hunt to get a mature cow elk despite the difficulties the change in weather created.

  • @rocksandrocks
    @rocksandrocks 4 года назад +1

    If you have your cooking stuff in the vestibules of your tent, does this mean that you don't hang a bear bag or use a bear canister?

  • @pinkmamba
    @pinkmamba 4 года назад

    Excellent video with a lot of good information!

  • @benpersenaire
    @benpersenaire 4 года назад +1

    I would love a review on the Nemo recurve for Hunting

  • @timhostetter3429
    @timhostetter3429 2 года назад

    Could you guys do a breakdown of your archery gear?

  • @adamgeide8799
    @adamgeide8799 3 года назад

    Kody can you please show your new truck system you mentioned here? Great video!

  • @sihunter2920
    @sihunter2920 3 года назад

    Great stuff!!!We're can I get some of your game bags?keep up the great work.

  • @ZachBrimhall
    @ZachBrimhall 3 года назад

    Great info. Thanks👍🏻

  • @jasonrigsby6190
    @jasonrigsby6190 4 года назад +1

    Hi Kody.
    Can you elaborate more on the bladder, connections, and Sawyer filter you use and the setup please? I’m wanting to change out my system for something along this line. TIA!
    P.s. As a stick bow guy, I’d love to see you carrying ur recurve again one of these days!
    >>>---->

  • @bgarrett742
    @bgarrett742 4 года назад +1

    Great informative video! My questions are, how does your food setup differ in grizzly country? Do you tend to eat less? And what do you do with your snack trash while hunting. I wouldn't want to be walking around smelling like Nutella and honey in grizz country lol

  • @dablaugntximntxub2318
    @dablaugntximntxub2318 4 года назад

    i truly wished you guys would release your old videos since you've started to where you're at today during the off seasons...i think that would be nice.

  • @toddprobasco9728
    @toddprobasco9728 4 года назад

    I like the idea of packing one dehydrated meal per day. I’ve been packing 2 per day, and it gets bulky. One dehydrated meal per day is less bulky, one would get more variety of foods in a day, and one a day would be cheaper.

  • @aaronfeigum3924
    @aaronfeigum3924 4 года назад

    Learned a lot thanks

  • @timberg7377
    @timberg7377 4 года назад

    Good stuff bud, I would love to see a full review on the Nemo recurve..

  • @kylekemp4377
    @kylekemp4377 4 года назад

    Awesome content keep it up BRO crew!

  • @rooterdog1
    @rooterdog1 4 года назад

    Great vid - helped with couple things I was trying to decide!

  • @SingleDadHomesteading
    @SingleDadHomesteading 4 года назад +1

    THAT ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS LOL THANKS BROTHER!

  • @drested1793
    @drested1793 3 года назад

    That was a good one. Good info in there.

  • @jdallavall161
    @jdallavall161 4 года назад +4

    May i ask why you guys arent running the vortex binoculars or crispy boots? I started watching you guys a few years ago and ended up buying both and like them. I was just curious. Excited for the 3.0 content!

    • @unemployedlogger
      @unemployedlogger 4 года назад

      I know they stopped using vortex because they got a sponsorship from Sig Optics. I'm not sure on the Crispi boots though.

    • @JVR-gd7zw
      @JVR-gd7zw 4 года назад +1

      Follow the money. Kifaru packs are nicer then exo, but they aren't sponsors. Do your own testing amongst your crew. Cant trust social media hunters.

    • @jdallavall161
      @jdallavall161 4 года назад

      First time elk hunting. So me buying that gear was me "testing" it. Thanks for the wisdom though broski

  • @BlueBloodCstm
    @BlueBloodCstm 4 года назад +2

    Damn wine?! My mother in law drinks it before bed too but in larger quantities

  • @rolltide1912
    @rolltide1912 4 года назад +3

    Have any of y’all have tried using a hammock and tarp instead of tents?

    • @killahboutdooradventures
      @killahboutdooradventures 4 года назад +1

      I have. It weighs about the same, and you still need a tarp for dew and it perches your body in an arch. Not a fan

    • @arttrumbo9496
      @arttrumbo9496 4 года назад +1

      I have used hammocks in the Backcountry before. There are some drawbacks to it. One is that you have to insulate the bottom of the hammock (with a sleeping pad or extra blanket) or else you will freeze all night from the air passing underneath the hammock. You also have to make sure you cover the entire hammock, to include the hanging straps, with a tarp otherwise the water will run down. And personally, I don't find the position the most comfortable to sleep in.

    • @ronniemilsap7716
      @ronniemilsap7716 4 года назад +1

      I only sleep in a hammock camping, I sleep so good personally. The cold air I feel on that aspect I was under prepared on my last trip lol

    • @rolltide1912
      @rolltide1912 4 года назад +1

      I haven’t used a tent sleep system in the back country but have slept in a tent before for regular family type camping so I’m not familiar with what all options are out there as far as backcountry options go. I normally use a hammock, tarp, under quilt, top quilt and stakes which is right around 8 lbs. and that’s with zero degree top and under quilts. I’m sure I could trim the weight down with better quilts. My hammock is hands down more comfortable and I’ve never had issues in heavy rain or wind. I mainly ask because I’ve seen how you guys often have to sleep on the slopes of big mountains making for very uneven ground and I would thought that maybe a hammock setup would be easier to deal with on such even ground. Just thinking out loud. Every time I’ve been out on back country hunting trips, the terrain was not as near mountainous as from what y’all hunt.

    • @rolltide1912
      @rolltide1912 4 года назад +1

      Art Trumbo I get what you’re saying about the drawbacks, but so far what I’ve been doing has been working...so far. My tarp covers my hammock but not all of my tree straps. For rain and wet weather, I just attach some strands of paracord from the tree straps to act as drip lines. I’ve used this method in pouring down rain and so far, I’ve always kept dry. Now that may change on my next outing, but so far it’s worked for me. My underquilt does an excellent job at covering the bottom of my hammock to prevent heat loss from the bottom but Ive been experimenting with more light weight options that I can work with in colder weather. My only problem is, is that even during the winter, it doesn’t get very cold where I live so it makes it hard to test equipment in cold weather and I don’t like “testing” things on my actual hunts, but sometimes I just have to.

  • @bfshooting
    @bfshooting 4 года назад

    Good info on what clothes you pack thanks

  • @Mrpickles_23454
    @Mrpickles_23454 4 года назад

    Great stuff, thank you!

  • @cory8791
    @cory8791 4 года назад

    Great vid!!! What kind of gaiters do you use?

  • @fmt5327
    @fmt5327 4 года назад

    Good video. Thanks

  • @andyL0648
    @andyL0648 4 года назад

    Thank you for the vid. Good info!!

  • @jeepguy04
    @jeepguy04 4 года назад

    U did not talk about ur crocs or bugle tube but everything else was good info

  • @jimmydunfee7851
    @jimmydunfee7851 4 года назад +1

    Do you ever pack Sawtooth anymore?

  • @camthecameraman5096
    @camthecameraman5096 4 года назад +1

    What bino harness is that? Looks great

  • @returnofsid
    @returnofsid 4 года назад

    Great information!

  • @derricktaber122
    @derricktaber122 4 года назад

    What size jet boil have you found to be the most useful? I don’t know why I’ve never carried a dang foam pad or leukotape...

  • @SHANEK632
    @SHANEK632 3 года назад

    Hey Kody. What size jetboil gas canister are you using that you store in your jetboil?

  • @run2september23
    @run2september23 4 года назад

    On your sawyer squeeze do you change the size of the platypus hose or does the sawyer adapter fit, mine has a larger hose than the sawyer adapter, how do you make it work?

  • @jp1419
    @jp1419 3 года назад

    Do you pack in any water the first day or bank on hitting a stream?

  • @justinmailloux549
    @justinmailloux549 4 года назад

    Do you ever have issues with bears from cooking in your tent or storing food there?

    • @bornandraisedoutdoors
      @bornandraisedoutdoors  4 года назад

      We haven't yet!

    • @justinmailloux549
      @justinmailloux549 4 года назад

      Born and Raised Outdoors because of you guys I’m really making a push to do Colorado this year for my first elk hunt. My dream may happen sooner than I imagined.

  • @davidgruninger1520
    @davidgruninger1520 4 года назад

    What is the average weight of your pack for you when you’re bivy hunting?

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival2064 4 года назад

    I like to carry lots of comfort food but snickers freeze hard and break my old teeth 😁 as I hunt late season

  • @AutomagicFishing
    @AutomagicFishing 4 года назад

    Hey, I have been curious to know how you guys handle after the kill dealing with bees. Do you guys ever get stung while you’re getting and scanning and quartering out the elk or deer? The only reason I’m asking is because I have an allergic reaction to yellow jackets. What do you do to prevent issues with the bees?

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 4 года назад

      Brian Rosenbalm it’ll help to take some bloodshot meat or silver skin and toss off to the side as a sacrifice. They’ll go for the it because you aren’t shooing them away like you are from the main carcass. Not 100% of course buy will help IMO.

  • @RobFishYT
    @RobFishYT 4 года назад

    My base weight (no food or water) - gun, bino and tripod included - 19lbs.....can get it to 15lbs.

  • @stevencaron4690
    @stevencaron4690 4 года назад

    What is the black thing you guys have on the shoulder strap of your pack?

  • @robertlester7913
    @robertlester7913 4 года назад

    What kind of bino harness are you using?

  • @swalt59
    @swalt59 4 года назад

    Some wine?? Sounds fancy 😎

  • @johnb2251
    @johnb2251 4 года назад

    U talk about the wearing the merino 150 top but do u wear something similar for bottoms under guidelight or obsedian pants?

  • @garrettgroener2996
    @garrettgroener2996 4 года назад

    What’s the name of the pack?

  • @TheSkylar25
    @TheSkylar25 4 года назад

    How come you dont wear crispi's anymore?

  • @2servenprotect327
    @2servenprotect327 4 года назад

    When does the Born and Raised back packs you use go on sale? Who can afford a $600 + pack off the bat as first time hunter. Maybe some blemish packs at a great discount? Thanks

    • @arttrumbo9496
      @arttrumbo9496 4 года назад +1

      You don't need a fancy hunting pack to get started. Look at military surplus stores for ALICE packs or MOLLE packs. They don't have all the bells and whistles but they can get you started. And you can modify them to your needs.

    • @2servenprotect327
      @2servenprotect327 4 года назад

      @@arttrumbo9496 thanks for the tip

  • @kolbiyashi6858
    @kolbiyashi6858 4 года назад

    Who makes your bino harness/finder pouch? Thank you!

  • @716crone9
    @716crone9 4 года назад

    Is the marmot es1 tent a discontinued item?

  • @onileone5475
    @onileone5475 4 года назад +4

    About 1st aid kit? Be nice to see one of them in your pack!

    • @andyL0648
      @andyL0648 4 года назад +1

      First kit is a must, especially if you are out in the sticks..

    • @kenleycrowe8325
      @kenleycrowe8325 4 года назад +1

      I've done hard core land surveying work for 14 years hiking miles in and out daily. It's a waste of space. I've used surveying flagging until we could get hiked to the truck to apply the electric tape and paper towels then off to the ER quite a bit but there isn't much that a banana can't handle for a few days going to happen.

  • @joshshepherd5660
    @joshshepherd5660 4 года назад +1

    Ok but I didn't see any pickle juice...I know im not the only person that suffers from life ending cramps on long treks lol ive accepted the fact that its getting added to my pack.

    • @killahboutdooradventures
      @killahboutdooradventures 4 года назад +1

      Does it kill cramps? I dont usually get them, but did on a 6 mile scouting trip a few weeks ago

    • @joshshepherd5660
      @joshshepherd5660 4 года назад

      @@killahboutdooradventures Works wonders for me. Cant say whether it does for everyone but, for me it takes maybe a shot glass worth or a bit more to completely end cramps within a few minutes. I would swear its partly mental but who knows lol

    • @arttrumbo9496
      @arttrumbo9496 4 года назад +1

      Instead of packing juice you can get packets of oral rehydration salts, or some commercial variant, that you mix in your nalgene bottle. They are great, and have more than just salt in them. They also have potassium and sugars to keep you going. I highly recommend them.

    • @JVR-gd7zw
      @JVR-gd7zw 4 года назад +1

      My cramping issues ended up being a magnesium deficiency. A pill a day cramps gone.

  • @awalkinigo
    @awalkinigo 4 года назад

    Im patiently waiting on my BRO exo to ship! Im so damn excited! Should be here for the second half the season unless y'all can light a fire under Steve's a$$. Lol

  • @wynott5128
    @wynott5128 4 года назад

    What brand poles?

  • @joneshat11
    @joneshat11 4 года назад

    What is the Quilt Temp Rating?

  • @clarkm.3986
    @clarkm.3986 4 года назад

    Tip I put my pants in the bottom of my sleeping bag so my feet don't get cold. If your feet get cold sleeping is not going to be great

  • @benjaminyohe6963
    @benjaminyohe6963 4 года назад

    Do you guys hang food in back country for bears?

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 4 года назад

      Benjamin Yohe absolutely. I find the PCT method is easiest.