Is Islam Judaism? Mind Blowing Interview With Professor Reuven Firestone
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- Is Islam Judaism? Mind Blowing Interview With Professor Reuven Firestone
Our quest in this episode is to spell out what Islam is and how it may have developed in the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century. I found this to be my favorite episode so far in recording scholarship on Islam.
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-----Muhammad is a divin title, which points to.....the jewish Messiah. The Quran was the Arabic Gospel, then corrupted by the islamic Califes of contradictory doctrines so as to deceive the followers.
What's your say on How Islam Saved Western Civilization? ruclips.net/video/C8M4i9fvq1M/видео.html
Adnan Rachid(history of islam)
Islam is the truth. Read the Qur'an
I wonder if you question your own a priori assumptions? What I have noticed about secular critics of religion is that they tend to have a set of unprovable assumptions that they hold with as much, if not more, vehemence than religious people. I think we all need to question our own a priori assumptions and unprovable commitments.
I am an American Muslim and I appreciate this very much.
The Rabbi and your content and context of Islam comparable to other abrahamic religions.
I found peace and solice in Islam.
It changed me into a very calm and content person with having the least but feel full and complete.
May every one find their way to the Almighty with love and peace.
Islam is truly misrepresented in the west.
It’s lost treasure if you willing to find it.
Salaam
Dari Malaysia sentiasa mendoakan Umat Islam di sana bertambah maju Dan dapat menyelesaikan masalah pemikiran yang jahat terhadap Muslim people.
"Islam is truly misrepresented in the west. " Yes, the media are biased in its favor.
P
What do you recommend for an American like myself to start learning more about Islam. I have only read the Quran once, that’s the extent of my knowledge pretty much.
@@1984isnotamanualstudy Arabic and then read the Quran and ask God for knowledge. Other books will only imprison your mind by man made cuffs. Trust that God suffices and ask only Him for knowledge and wisdom.
I’m born and raised as a muslim and in 50s. First time ever heard to a rabbi who is humble, wise, knowledgeable, balanced and truthful. It was a fantastic interview and i want more from him, pls bring him again.
For the host all i could do was subscribe the channel and i did. 😊
*The Clear Answer*
I S A Resounding NO
*Islam is NOT Judaism or* *Christianity*
Islam is Islam (Complete)
Judaism is Judaism (Apocalyptically incomplete still waiting for A Messiah who is unknown)
Christianity is, well, Jesus Christ! they're still
figuring it out, give them time
Really this men say Islam is haram u sure ur Muslims ☪️
IN ISLAAM THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS ARE KNOWN AS THE LEARNED PEOPLE
I totally understand what you are saying at the same time he is not being honest about it. He may have learn a lot because he has lots of literature. He knows Arabic and lived in Egypt and studied there. His Jewish Ego is not letting him overcome the truth and accept Isa Alaih Salaam and Muhammad Sallaho Alaih Wa Sallum. He is having difficulty. He knows the truth about Islam but in denial. Hope he understands one day
you are right. Go through the comments section and read my comments I had made at different points with time stamps in this video. @@jaweedali7123
My humble request to Derek invite Ali Ataie or Adnan Rashid to discuss about Islam.
He won't do it.
He wont invite any mainstream orthodox muslim scholars, his zionist funder wouldn't want that
yes! after platforming Robert Spencer, he definitely needs to course correct for what is considered scholarship regarding Islam.
@@futurecrunk what is considered scholarship in Islam? He has brought on Marijn van Putten, Hythem Sidky, Robert Hoyland, Sean Anthony, Stephen Shoemaker etc.
@@inquisitivemind007 he has indeed had some great interviews by respectable academics as it regards Islam. Including Spencer in that group just seems to be a case of not thoroughly vetting a guest, OR an attempt to capitalize on Spencer's obvious reputation as an islamophobe.
I am Muslim and I appreciate this wonderful discussion also wonderful topic.thank you both. Here’s what I think about religion. It’s God’s love and care to make our life at ease. To protect us from us.
Islam is the restoration of Abraham's original monotheistic faith.
"Mil'la tah Abikumm Ibrahim."
The vibes, the amount of knowledge he shared, the choice of words, and everything are remarkable. It's like i just attended 3 different classes with multiple professors simultaniously. What a man Dr. Reuven Firestone is. Thank you for doing this interview. May you live a long life so many more people can learn from you. I hope one day i can meet you and have a bit of a chit chat regarding these things
I want to really thank you both for this fantastic episode. I as a Muslim have enjoyed it very much. For the first time in my life I listened to a reasonable way of thinking about the 3 monotheistic religions. You’re doing a great job, keep it up 🎉
Go through the comments section and read my comments I had made at different points with time stamps in this video.
❤ 3 monotheistic and abrahamic religions. We better link up. . Circle the wagons. Figure out who we can trust and who we need to exclude. Through the grace and mercy of the most high . we are capable of discernment.
The Jews never accepted Muhammed as a Prophet.
Please educate yourself.
Read the Quran and ask the scholar so you will understand. Peace
@@fatmaanwar8919 what are you talking about!? And what gives the right to talk like that!? You start by telling me to go “educate myself” and then end up your comment by “peace”?
You’re either very dumb or I am too smart to understand your comment..
I never mentioned Jews anywhere in my comment, and I read the coran better than you do.
They always claim Islam is radical but you know who always claims the word is Jewish and Christian to Islam.
Love your work and Prof. Reuven Firestone is very knowledgeable person. Huge respect for him as a Muslim.
What a wise and humble man Reuven is.
He must be. He is a man of faith.
The Rabi is dignified and so polite . I pray that he continues his good work and takes the leap and embraces Islam.
Same prayer for the host .
Ameen
I’m praying he sees the light and becomes Christian… and also you
May they grow, love, learn, and share without having to be anything but who they are at the moment.
It's really sad that people need them to be something else.
How rude and self-centered, not to mention arrogant!
@@easterlinearI wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy! What a horrible thing to say! 😢
Thanks for this podcast, i found it's so educative. I'm a sunni muslim, knowledge seeker. Peace for all of you, hope our God, Allah (Yahwe, Elohim) gives you all Hidayah, Amen. Under Abrahamic religion, we are united that Our God is one, our father is one (Adam), and we all will be gathered on the hereafter.
You're just a muslim just like your beloved prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not Sunni neither Shia...
I totally agree. 🕊
What suuni? There is only muslim .
@@shirdiljan6339exactly bro, these schsms, Imaams n scholars have divided religion for personal gains. Humans blindly worshipping humans. Nothing the Quran doesn't warn us of tho.
@@mgXL7 perjalanan waktu masa sejarah perlu ada pendidikan untuk melengkapi cara nabi berdoa bagaimana. Ahli Sunnah adalah paling terdekat Dan ia nombor satu generation. Di sebabkan politik mahu kekuasaan kesemua agama berpecah berpuak puak Cuba kaji first generation ikutlah generasi awal pasti selesai masalah manusia Dan agama.
Great interview. I would like to add something that the Professor surprisingly maybe forgot to add as he has extensive knowledge, but its actually critical. It is that yes Jihad does mean struggle and he did mention its other forms such as striving for the sake of the community, but the most important Jihad for Muslims is the struggle against oneself. The struggle against your desires, destructive thoughts and habits, your 'inner demons' and so on. The struggle against taking the easy road, the struggle to be disciplined. That is the real Jihad.
Im glad u mentioned that.
Yep. It’s the same as ‘FIGHT ALL DISBELIEVERS!’(Q. 9:5) and then you add up ‘with love’. It’s all the same Kitman.
@@Mr_Moktoosai you will be fine
You forgot to mention the verse preceding it & the one right after it, so here you go:
As for the polytheists who have honoured every term of their treaty with you and have not supported an enemy against you, honour your treaty with them until the end of its term. Surely Allah loves those who are mindful ˹of Him˺. 9:4
And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection ˹O Prophet˺, grant it to them so they may hear the Word of Allah, then escort them to a place of safety, for they are a people who have no knowledge. 9:6
There's a subsequent interview in which he makes that clear.
Xenophobia and tribalism are definitely huge obstacles when it comes to this human experience, especially the more interconnected we become
Correct. Just consider that the host has invited a Jewish Rabbi to discuss Islam, but we all know that he will never a Muslim scholar to explain Judaism or Christianity.
@@QabilAGhor no he called him to compare islam with judaism not to talk about islam only.
@@whydontyoustfudid he ever have a Muslim scholar to talk about Islam?
What a well balanced view. Prof Firestone clearheadedness and unbiased opinions are a breath of fresh air. 🙏🏼
This is not opinion .This is the true Word of God.And that is the big different Shalom Yeshuah Hamashiach the Lion of Juda and Shalom to YERUSHALAYIM SHEL ZAHAV THE CAPITOL CITY OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWS FOREVER Regarding from Svein Harald Tjøsvoll in Norway with everlasting love from my heart. Blesdings Halleluja Shalom Amen Baruch haba beshem Adonai..🔥💖🙏👑✝️👑✝️👑✝️🇮🇱🇰🇷🇺🇦🇯🇵🇬🇧🇨🇦🇸🇪🇫🇮🇩🇰🇮🇸🇧🇻🇲🇬✡️🇮🇱🕎🇮🇱
Derek, I have so much respect for you and your guest. And as a Muslim...I see more similarities with Judiasm than any other religion.
Until recent times, they both got along well, like brothers and sisters...
That’s because you guys copied stories from jews and christians
No *SIMILARITIES* between *Islam* and *Judaism!* It's a pity that beloved Muslims *believe in the FRAUD* that the *oneness (monotheism/Tawhid)* of their god means that he is the *SAME* monotheistic God revealed through Moses and the Prophets in Jewish scripture (Deuteronomy 6:4). Same concept of monotheism therefore same God? *No.*
Is monotheism the ONLY attribute required to test Allah of the Qur'an's 7th century claim to be the monotheistic Judeo-Christian God of Abraham, the Creator and Most High God? Satan, who also claims to be God, would easily pass this test since he is monotheistic too.
So, holding on to just one attribute is a *False Dilemma Fallacy* because it falsifies or limits the results by relying only on ONE attribute and ignoring MANY other attributes which would have helped give a more accurate result.
Allah's strange claim to be the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible goes like this:
Al-'Ankabut (QS 29:46). "...We [Muslims] believe in all that is revealed to us and in that which has been revealed to you [Jews and Christians], and our God and your God is One, and to Him we stand resigned."
*CLASH: DOES GOD ENTER CREATION OR DOES HE NOT?*
It was common knowledge to all the Prophets of Israel, as revealed in Jewish scripture, that God *enters creation* while Allah of the Qur’an-revealed in the 7th century- *does not enter creation* (Sahih Muslim 179):
The amazing Almighty is ABLE to enter our space since he is not bound by time, space and location. God is LOVE (1 John 4:8), so out of his *love* (not weakness) he chooses to dwell among the people who are the masterpiece of his creation.
For example, in the Jewish Torah, God walked in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:8), which is not in heaven but was located on earth, serviced by the rivers Pishon, Gihon, Tigris and the Euphrates (Genesis 2).
God appeared to Abraham on earth as a man (Genesis 18:1-15).
The glory of God descended as a cloud and *entered the temple/tabernacle of Moses (Exodus 40:34) and Solomon (2 Chronicles 7:1-3) and dwelt among the Israelites.*
That is why Jews pray facing the temple in Jerusalem. When the prophets taught, *"Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is ONE* (Deuteronomy 6:4), this is the monotheistic God of Abraham they taught about, not the 7th century Allah of the Muslims who does not enter creation! You can't just cherry pick one verse from the Torah and ignore all other attributes of God mentioned in the Torah! Do you have any idea how crazy and hypocritical that is?
Finally, God DID enter creation when he *entered the temple/tabernacle that was the BODY of Jesus (Isaiah 40:3-5, Malachi 3:1 and John 2:19-21) and dwelt among mankind* (John 1:14). Jesus is the Glory of God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14)!
The Muslim will say: *"but our God does not enter creation because he is Most High and exalted above the earth".* This would prove Allah of the Kaaba to be false for claiming (QS 29:46) to be the God of the previous scriptures *(who is the Most High and does enter creation* out of his love for mankind).
Well, in this example, if something claims to be a duck, then logically it should have feathers as does a duck.
That something cannot claim to be a duck but then say _"I am a duck who does not have feathers; I have fur"._
*(This is called a false claim: it is not a duck but something else-perhaps it is a Rabbit)*
Likewise, if the 7th century Allah of the Qur’an claims to be the God of the previous scriptures (who does enter creation) then logically Allah of the Qur’an should enter creation, as does the true God of the previous scriptures.
Allah of the 7th century cannot say, _"I am the God of the previous scriptures (who enters creation), but I don't enter creation"._
*(This is called a false claim: he is not the true God of the previous scriptures but a false god)*
Muslims worship a *false god* who claims [Al-Aʻla (87:1)] to be the Most High God of the previous scriptures who does enter but this false god does not enter creation! It's deception. In truth, Judaism and Christianity are the only true Abrahamic religions of the true God of Abraham *who enters creation* and dwells with mankind. Islam is a false 7th century Abrahamic religion.
If it has feathers, walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck, then it surely is a Duck, not a Rabbit!
If God enters creation, appears to Abraham as man and enters and fills the tabernacle/temple of Moses and Solomon, then He surely is the true God of Abraham whom the Jews and Christians believe in and NOT Allah the 7th century false god of the Qur'an.
Being the "great planner" that Allah is, he has planned to deceive beloved Muslims into believing that he is the Judeo-Christian God.
Imagine the Rabbit saying "there is no other creature but the Rabbit" yet making the claim to be *another* creature which has feathers and a quacking sound?
Such is the terrible claim in the Islamic creed in the Shahada "there's no god but Allah" yet Allah goes on to claim to be *another* God (the Judeo-Christian God of Abraham who does enter creation).
Blessings to you!
While Allah of Islam *claims to be the monotheistic God of the previous scriptures,* he does not enter creation as did the God of the previous scriptures. Who is deceiving who? Here are *FIVE* amazing examples of God (the glory of the Lord) *ENTERING CREATION* and *dwelling among the people* in the books of the prophets of old, and the stunning prophecy from the prophets about the *glory of the Lord* appearing to mankind in the form of *JESUS!*
*1.* In the Torah, after Adam and Eve sinned, "...they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the *presence* of the Lord God among the trees of the garden". (Genesis 3:8).
*2.* In the Torah, God appeared on earth to Abraham *(Genesis 18:1-15)*
[1] 'The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. [3] He said, “If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. [11] Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. [12] So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, “After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?” [13] Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh and say, ‘Will I really have a child, now that I am old?’ [14] Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”
*3.* In the Torah, *God entered the temple and dwelt with mankind.* God instructed Moses: "And let them make me a sanctuary; that *I may dwell among them."* (Exodus 25:8). Was this Allah of the Qur’an?
'Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and the *glory of the Lord* filled the tabernacle. Moses could not enter the tent of meeting because the cloud had settled on it, and the *glory of the Lord* filled the tabernacle.' (Exodus 40:34).
Was this God whose glory entered the tabernacle of Moses, Allah of the Qur’an who can not enter creation? No.
God would give Moses commands from *inside* the tabernacle in the Holy of Holies above the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:22)
*4.* Later, during the time of Solomon, the glory of God filled the temple again: 'When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the *glory of the Lord* above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the Lord, saying, “He is good; his *love* endures forever.” (2 Chronicles 7:1-3).
His love? Yes, out of His *love,* not *weakness.* Because-unlike the out-of-reach Kaaba god who 'sends down a STONE from heaven' to Muslims-the true God of Israel, the Almighty, loves his people and HIMSELF comes down and *dwells with them!*
This is the clearest evidence that the one ☝️ (monotheistic) 7th century FALSE god of the Kaaba is not the one (monotheistic) TRUE God of Abraham of the previous scriptures who does enter creation.
Allah's claim is the biggest ever act of deception since the creation of the world. Scriptures warned that Satan would come to disguise himself as the Most High God (Isaiah 14:12-14) and even try to imitate God's righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)
*5.* Finally, God makes a prophecy of Himself coming to the earth *(by entering the temple that was the body of Jesus Christ)* and the *glory of God* being revealed in *Jesus!* :
'A voice of one calling: “In the wilderness prepare the way for the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain. And the *glory of the Lord* will be revealed, and all people will SEE IT together. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” (Isaiah 40:3-5).
Jesus, as the glory of the Lord, will be revealed to and seen by the people!
John the Baptist then confirms the prophecy of Isaiah is about himself, John (the voice of one calling in the wilderness) preparing the way for Jesus:
'This is he [Jesus] who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah: “A voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.’ ” (Matthew 3:3).
"In the beginning was the *Word,* and the *Word was with God,* and *the Word was God.* The *Word became flesh* and *made his dwelling among us.* We HAVE SEEN *his glory,* the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.(John 1:1, 14)
The title 'Son of God' simply means God, who is spirit, added flesh to his divine nature. 'Son of God' means God in the flesh.
Blessings!
Much Respect To Rabbi Reuven And Derek For This Amazing Dialogue And Presentation. They Both Handled The Topic In A Eloquent Way.
As a Muslim, I can't help but notice the striking similarity between the Ravi's appearance and orthodox Muslims. The beard and his shirt.
You literally stole my words..he looks Muslim if not given an introduction
Even like a Sunni Muslim he cleans his upper lip.
@uncertaintyeclipses5936
No , you are the one who didn’t understand or listen what this wise man said. Go to sleep that is not your subject to say something stupid.
@uncertaintyeclipses5936meanwhile Ismael(peace be upon him)was the first son the father of Arab nations...and ishak(peace be upon him) was the younger one....😮😮.....ummm.....
@uncertaintyeclipses5936 that's your biased pagan leaders said ...😂😂😂......how moronic they are
Hi Derek, maybe you can research this: how come some Jews migrated to Madinah, even before hijrah, before prophet Muhammad pbuh migrated from Mekah to Madinah? In our tradition we believe because they knew from Jewish scripture, there would be the last prophet that emerged from Madinah.
I am Muslim and I really enjoy your analysis and your honesty. I wish we could have a lot of people like you . As I can see the comments your outreach Muslims and it’s approve Muslims are open to different views and ideas. Let it be known Muslims enjoy honesty and critical dialogues. Thanks for your amazing videos. Please do continue your outstanding work. Thanks
Go through the comments section and read my comments I had made at different points with time stamps in this video.
I am at the 27 minute mark and all I heard is jew who trying to say Quran is derived from Judaism and Christianity in the Arab peninsula without actually saying the exact word,you can hear his skepticism about Islam in every word he says ,I DON'T WHAT YOU LIKED ABOUT ALL THIS
@@deanwinchester7649No he didn’t say that. That’s how you see it. He is saying all religions even Judaism have some influence and derivative from earlier cultures.
@@deanwinchester7649 The changed and CORRUPTED quran dilemma = allah(peace be upon HER) is 100% FALSE :
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims).
sahih muslim 1452a, book 17, hadith 30
Show me in the quran the verse of the 5 sucklings
The best decision in my life was when I realized that Allah blessed me with Islam
Get well soon! ❤
This episode has been FANTASTIC, I loved this Rabbi’s talk and learned a lot. This is the type of guy I’d love to keep talking to and learning from!
What are u now. ???
@@i.canalista7718 I’m an atheist. I just enjoy the expertise of rabbi although obviously I do not believe.
I dropped to sleep after a Night Shift, listening to this. Usually, I would listen to my favourite science, space, earth videos, to do go to sleep, as discussions mostly annoy me, with either one or the other side, or both, being ignorant to history & facts. What a refreshing outlook on humanity, listening to two down to earth human beings, who have taken their blinkers off and try to tell people, how things really were, are, and maybe can be, if peoples start finding their similarities. This was so relaxing for my battered mind these days, that I actually could go to sleep. Nevertheless, I will do the whole session tomorrow.
How strange to read your comment. I often look for documentaries, and I was doing just that when I came across this video before reading your comment. Just what I needed to read before settling on this as my pre sleep video. Thanks!
Dr. Firestone kicks gigantic ass. Please have him back as many times as possible.
Loved this.. Respect to all grandmothers long enough who survived to birth all of us.
What about the Indian ancient accounts..? I was brought up in a Catholic convent.. But by the end of my armed forces experience.. I had a crisis of faith.. And I am not atheist in any way.. But I found peace in ancient summerians scripture and came to understand I am human first and all are on a small planet are my brothers and sisters.. All we ever have is each other. In my view there is no old man in the sky.. More a mother force.. And we are her offspring.. Life
God is beyond all his creations. Neither a man or a woman. Neither God has an offspring, nor was God born. God is One and Indivisible. The Sustainer needed by all.
That's how God, Allah, is in Islam. We do not ascribe partners to God, we do not associate anything about God, except by the descriptions God alone use to himself in our Holy Book, Quran. Quran contains the exact Words of God, which has not been changed since it was revealed to God's Messenger Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Memorized letters by letters from the moment the verses is recited by him to his companions. Memorized and compiled to the book we know today, with chains of people memorize it fully from the time of the Prophet lived to this day by over to 200 millions people, and by parts by 2 billions people. So, we can affirm there had been no changes to it.
If you feel the need of God in your life, then I invite you to read the Quran. See for yourself if it's truly from the Lord of the Heavens and Earth. I pray for you to find guidance 🙏❤
A Baptist pastor wrote a book that asks the question, can you call God, mother? He comes to the conclusion that yes, there is no reason why we can't. In the Old Testament there are verses where God has feminine attributes. In the book, The Wisdom of Solomon, the Spirit of God has a feminine voice.
I'm converted Muslim Alhamdulillah from India
That a false Sects Mix of humans Philisofic ,with Military Rulers and the False Reina Valera Blie truncked ,an altered scripture .
What was your Hindu name?
Really enjoyed this one.
Derek, you've taken in and synthesised more information than almost anyone else I've come across.
You're a world class communicator and I love your postulates/hypotheses.
I'm not sure whether I most want you to get your PhD or to write a popular science type of a book on religions.
But either would be amazing.
I appreciate you.
Couldn’t agree more. He is marching a lot of people out of the weeds. I suspect this guy doesn’t even know his own tool box fully yet. 🔥
Pshh... 😆
Are you telling me Jews believe in Allah.
@@pmbbmp it was a comment about all the things which he DOES know. Just happened to be on this video. But - you take away whatever you choose from my comment, attaboy.
You should do it, Derek.
(Which, you ask. I say both?)
👍
Great podcast! May you please invite a Muslim scholar, Mufti, or Preacher, any Muslim religious leader to speak about Islam next please.
"The Road to Mekah" by M. Asad is worth reading for Westerners to understand Islam through the eyes of an Austrian Jew who converted to Islam.
Muhammad is a divin title, which points to.....the jewish Messiah. The Quran was the Arabic Gospel, then corrupted by the islamic Califes of contradictory doctrines so as to deceive the followers.
@Vegan Higler Get Lost! Allah created the cattle for humanity to consume..
@Vegan Higler excuse me but Allah created this entire existence and he says what we can and can't do and he said in his revelation that He created the cattle for us to consume.
@Vegan Higler Look at Islam and compare it to all the religions of the earth! There is no religion on this planet that can match Islam! Nothing comes close. The only religion on earth that has one perfect holy book in its original form and language Is Islam.
@Vegan Higler Yeah. LOOK at Islam. It is growing and spreading all over the world. Nothing can stop it because it is Allah's True Religion!!!
It's very rare to find an honest rabbia regarding islam, the most honest well informed Rabbia is Tovia Singer
Well Islam was literally copied from Judaism... he's just honest enough to point out the similarities
@@JupiterMoon777 Islam is a continuation of Judaism and Christianity. Islam never claims to be a new religion just confirms what comes before it. Also Judaism don't believe jesus was a prophet. Islam says jesus was a mighty messenger of God. The Quran has an entire chapter named after his mother Mary. Non of the historic errors found in the bible is found in the Quran. Also the Quran challenges the reader to produce a chapter similar to the linguistic excellence written in Quran. No one in 1400yrs has been able to imitate the Quran yet. The offer still stands my friend if the Quran is a mere forgery of the Torah then produce a chapter that remotely resembles the style of the Quran
@@JupiterMoon777there were no Arabic translations of the Bible or Torah at the time of prophet Muhammad saws therefore this myth about Islam copying Judaism and Christianity is, well, a myth.
I really appreciate this open and honest discussion. I wish more would listen and learn. I agree with Derek, if more people were well informed, we would have far less inter religious strife.
Islam was clear when it said that it contained all the previous heavenly religions, refined them, and gave them permanent life and preserved them with the Qur’an, which cannot be tampered with.The Qur’an is inherited by memorizing it in the breasts, as we say, and not just in books. Reading the Qur’an is spiritual refinement and psychological preparation for the Muslim, so it gives us strength and endurance over life, and this indicates that it is the final religion because it does not age or weaken.Thank you very much, I enjoyed watching you❤❤❤and all the best 🤲🤲❤🤲
@EvadDnana Islam is not against the remaining religions. Islam respects personal freedom and is keen to protect society and does not force people to leave their religion. This is evidenced by the fact that Islam ruled India for more than eight hundred years, and the majority of the population still belongs to many other religions. In Islamic countries, there is a pluralism of religions, including the worship of Satan. Islam sanctifies the individual and encourages society to become One body with harmony and sensations
@@lesforetsdoesn't sound like you've read the quran at all.
@@Enscriptiv oh yes many times probably you didn't
As a Muslim I enjoyed listening this talk.
How do u justify wife beating, slavery, child rape, antisemitism?
I don't justify.
@@fikrinuman954 they are not wrong?
They are all slander, defamation. Look into your own religion.
@@fikrinuman954 what do u mean? U disagree w koran? My own religion? Huh? Surah an Nisa, 4:34 literally says beat you wives.
I am an Indian Malayalee tradition Muslim since I saw this video I feel very proud to be born as a Muslim thank you very much to Allah for being born as a Muslim May Allah make us all Muslim and make us die may Allah subhanutala bless us all
Mapilla dog
You are broken
Very interesting conversation with an engaging scholar. Thanks!
Good interview. It’s great that you got Jewish perspective on Islam, it will be great to have a Muslim scholar answer same or similar about Islam and as well as Judaism and Christianity.
Jerusalem was the first direction of prayer ( Qibla), and the direction was changed in the middle of a congregational prayer ( as a verse was being revealed) to Mecca ( because of the Kaaba, not the city itself). This is universally agreed upon in Islamic tradition.
Fun fact. Muhammad and his earliest followers worshipped at the Kabah even though it contained 360 idols. On becoming a Muslim, Omar is said to have fought the Quraysh to a standstill to force them to let the Muslims pray at the Kabah. When the Quraysh mocked Muhammad for circling the Kabah, he turned on them and said 'I bring you SLAUGHTER!' The first teachings about the Last Day are taken in part almost word for word from the Gospel of St Matthew which was known to the Nazarene and Ebionite Christians around him at the time. Later, after meeting the Aus and Khazraj of Medina, Muhammad started claiming that Allah was the same god as in the Old Testament and claimed to have flown overnight to Jerusalem and back on Buraq. In 622AD he fled to Medina, and when the local Jews refused to accept him as a prophet of their own ancient scriptures, he got angry, cursed them and changed the qibla from Jerusalem to the Kabah. (Sura 2.40-110) making the daft claim that 'Abraham had built the Kabah.' Within five years of his arrival in Medina all the Jews of Medina were exiled or massacred. He then started to wage war on Christian Syria. Lovely warlord that he was. 😁
@@davidzack8735 Alternative facts? Good luck with those, my friend…
@@quixoticmelancholic7141 All the above facts taken directly from original authentic Muslim sources, bro. Read Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul. He tells you what happens in Muhammad's life and wars and gives you the correct references in the Quran. When the Jews of Medina rejected Muhammad, Ibn Ishaq says Sura 2.40-110 came down 'about these Jews' and he changes the qibla from Jerusalem to the Kabah. Sura Anfal came down to tell the squabbling Muslims how to divide the Spoils of War after the Battle of Badr in 624CE, for example. While Sura 33 is a mishmash of thoughts about the defeat at Uhud and excuses he made so he could marry Zaynab d Jahsh, the wife of his adopted son Zayd. And so on. 😁
@@davidzack8735
1. You don’t know enough about Ibn Ishaq. Read more widely and critically: you aren’t the first person to discover Sirat-al-Rasul.
2. Even your telling of events from him is very selective and biased. ( ie. They worshipped God at the Kaaba, not the idols inside, as it was understood to be the “ house of God” originally built by Abraham, and you might want to look up the definition of warlord)
3. Perhaps you don’t realize that the Quran was revealed over time, often in response to actual events in real time. There is an entire area of study devoted to when verses were revealed and under what circumstances. This isn’t a secret.
4. At least read some real scholars ( even non-Muslim ones) before you decide you know what happened.
5. If you think things are facts because Ibn Ishaq wrote about them, you should know he was a Muslim and believed In Muhammad as the last prophet of God. Fact.
@@davidzack8735 Demons love to lie as you do now.
I am an Arab and I read the Qur’an and I know the Prophet’s biography. You are just a foolish liar.
If you ask American Muslims who understand Arabic, they will teach you everything. There are no secrets in our religion, but you put yourself in a position that makes it easy for me to say that you are a liar.
Do you like this trait we say about you, if he keeps lying and we will say that you are a liar
As a muslim, i enjoyed this interview a lot. They’re both honest and frank. Thanks.
Not fully honest .. he said if name of Muhammad was correct or not but in their book
Song of Solomon 5:16 name of Prophet Muhammad has mentioned
It’s says Muhammadem
em is plural of respect Like Halo em ( Gods ? No meaning God )
Understanding the origins of Islam is hell of a difficult task. Hope it will eventually become clear.
Islam comes from the Arabic word “Aslama” which means to submit to the will of God. According to Muslims every prophet submitted to the will of the one true God and they, along with their followers, were all Muslim. That’s why Muslims believe in all the prophets and their message to pray to God.
Tldr; Islam didn’t start 1400 years ago. It was there from the beginning
@@Apollo05
Indeed, right there in the beginning with the devil, submitting to his will to commit Sins. And, spreading evils and falsehoods..
By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them.
Sahih Muslim 2749 Book 50, Hadith 1
A false paradise that appeal to brainwashed followers who are baptize in their Sins and evil lustful desires .
- Muslims will gain virgins having large swelling breasts in paradise. (Quran 78:31-35)
- Large-eyed virgins are waiting for Muslims in paradise (Quran 44:51-59)
- Women’s virginity will be automatically restored after each encounter in paradise (Quran 56:35-36)
- 72 virgins in paradise (Hadith 2562)
- Men can take pleasure at a free sex market of men and women in paradise (Al-Hadis Volume 4:34)
A false prophet Muhammad that:
1. falsely claimed that the Jews worshipped Ezra the Scribe as the Son of Allah until the end days.(Quran 9:30, Sahih Muslim 1.352)
2. falsely described Christians as believing in a Trinity made up of the Father, Jesus, and Mary. (Quran 5:116)
3. falsely claimed that the Gospel and Torah promised that killing and being killed in the name of Allah will lead them to paradise. (Quran 9:111)
A false prophet Muhammad which command evil deeds against disbelievers of his false message.
Koran 2:191 "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them"
Koran 5:51 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends"
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran"
Koran 8:60 " Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels"
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid, urge all Muslims to fight them"
Koran 9:5 "When the opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them"
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood"
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies"
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels, behead them when you catch them".
Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Matthew 7:15 - 7:20
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. *Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.*
A big rule to memorize / You will never understand Islam by following the priests and rabbis who distorted the Bible and the Torah.
Read the Qur’an and you will understand Islam simply. If you find any problem, you can communicate with Muslim preachers such as Shamsi and Sheikh Othman bin Al-Farouq.
And Abdul Rahim McCarthy, etc.. They will explain to you any Qur'anic verse that you do not understand.
@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص
Quran 3:3-4 states “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an.”
Quran 5:46 states “And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.”
Quran 6:115 states “And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.”
The Quran is self-contradictory if you claimed Allah allowed his previous revelations (Torah & Gospel) to be corrupted, this leads to one of the following assumptions about Allah:
1.Allah is a weak god; he is unable to protect his previous revelations (Torah & Gospel). He also gains more power and might throughout time, because he supposedly is now able to protect his last revelation, the Quran.
2.Allah does not care about people being misled by counterfeit revelations. And yet he will still punish individuals with hell fire because they follow a corrupted Message even though they may have not come to the realization that Allah had allowed it to be corrupted. That means Allah is unjust.
In light of the above, how can we trust that the Quran is preserved if these two Revelations are corrupted? How can a person trust that Allah did not fail to protect his so-called final revelation, the Quran, when he was too weak to prevent people from tampering with his previous Messages (Torah & Gospel)?
Maybe Allah needs to a send a fourth revelation? Perhaps he has already sent down this fourth book, and that is actually the revelation given to Baha’ullah the founder of the Baha’i faith?
More importantly, how do Muslims reconcile their position with Allah’s claim in the Quran that “there is no changing the words of God”? (Quran 6:115, 18:27)
Muslims have to make a decision and choose one of these alternatives:
1.The Quran is preserved and the earlier Revelations are corrupted. In that case, Allah is either weak or he is unjust. That is the only explanation for his preservation of the Quran and letting people corrupt his previous Revelations.
2.The Quran is corrupted like the other Revelations. Then you should either not read it since you do not read other corrupted Revelations, or maybe you should read these other corrupted Revelations (the Torah and Bible) just as you insist on reading the corrupted Quran.
3.The Quran is preserved, and the previous Revelations have also been preserved. That means then you should read these authentic Revelations for yourself.
4.The Quran is corrupted but the earlier Revelations are preserved. Obviously, you should then abandon the Quran and read the Torah and Gospel.
If you picked option number three, then you will be faced with another problem. The Quran contradicts these previous Revelations (Torah & Gospel) in many essential points. That means that the Quran is a false message which cannot be from God since God is not the author of confusion. He could not reveal a message that contradicts his previous Messages.
All religions are man-made. Mohammad, a violent con man, stole from Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Judaism.
I am a Muslim living in the U.S. I always had so many questions, but they tell me not to ask and accept. I not only agree with Me. Reuven Firesont as I already felt it even before I watched this vlog.
Thank you for letting me know that I am not crazy or self-hatting Muslim as some label me.
You should ask Knowledgeable muslim. there is nothing islam can not answer. So find some good scholar. if someone say don’t ask just believe he is not a good Muslim as Allah told people to learn.
Great interview. Reuven was a fantastic guest😊
A Rabbi with a PhD. in Arabic and Islamic studies! Wow! I'm going to listen for sure!
Great discussion,
I would humbly request @MythVision Podcast to have discussions with Traditional Muslim scholars about Islam. That would be more fruitful I guess. Better if you read the Quaran (translation) before such discussion (if it ever happens)
No way. He is not going to read the Quran. He likes to talk about things he is ignorant of I guess. He also prefers to regurgitate what western and orientalist authors wrote about Islam, the Quran and the prophet muhammad. He is in the business of criticizing islam and not interested in learning about the faith even though he likes to throw around words like academic studies and reason. He doesn’t live up to his own standard.
@@BenM61 Thats unfortunate if true 🙃
@@BenM61 You guys should be grateful that Mythvision engage to dialogue and understanding about Islam, academic inviting experts.
I remember the darkness period of 10-20 years ago when Europeans and Americans were so ignorant, all they knew was obscure blasphemy about the prophet.
You are too impatient and too sensitive to criticism, there is a opening happening right now. More people than ever are opened to understand your culture and you want to discourage them.
Derek, does it not make sense to ask a Muslim about the Qur'an referencing previous books?
Think about asking a chef if his restaurant deserves a Michelin star. Of course this is silly because you know the chef would be biased in favor of his own restaurant - and even if the chef wasn't, people would nonetheless be suspicious - and rightfully so!
I'm muslim, I really appreciate and pay high respect to your job
As a Muslim, i believe there are nuanced distinctions between the 'sources' of scriptures especially the Qur'an. .. with due respect to Rabbi Firestone, i don't believe his knowledge about Islam in general and the Qur'an in particular, is deep enough... to be fair to yourself, your viewers and to Islam, i really believe you need to interview a Muslim scholar to get a more accurate picture.
You’re right but nonetheless his description is quite fair and according to my understanding largely accurate
I love the interview the one being interviewed is a well read and an intellectual.
I am so impressed by his knowledge of Islam. I hope the interviewer has learnt a few things as he seemed quite rigid in the beginning.
We Muslims are open minded, 98% are peaceful like anyone else some are crazy like in all religions.
Look at history Christians have killed millions across the world since ships could sail on the oceans.
So sanity is in being humble kind and accepting of other faiths .
I have experienced many faiths and been to Israel to see experience the place where 3 major beliefs reside with all its complexities. Really liked the Jewish gentleman and his approach to provocative questions. Thank you
I've enjoyed every second of your talk. Many thanks to both of you guys
I just want to thank you for your respect to Prophet Muhammed call Him as Prophet (may peace be upon on him)
They didn't, they just don't oppose his claim.
Also they seem to want to challenge the Christian majority
Interesting discussion I just want to say If you read the Quran it doesn’t claim to bring new message it’s mission is to revive universal Unitarianism.
“Indeed the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam.” (The Noble Quran 3:19)
@@craigthebrute7929islam means submission to the will of god
I really appreciate this discussion. As a Baha’i I have always understood the continuation of the idea of one God for all humanity throughout the ages, including pre history. A scholarly approach is the best way to view religion. Faith in the existence of an Unknowable Essence is the key ingredient. This is how I see it. Thank you again for bringing the practical and logical perspective to this discussion.
Like Christianity it has no halaqa/shariyyah Law. A religion of lawlessness thats Christianity and Bahaism
I saw it this way for a long time, the material source for the Quran is so obviously the Bible, the same characters and everything, the author(s) of the Quran had to be intimately knowledgable of the Hebrew Bible. Also when the Arabs conquered Jerusalem they went straight away to the Temple ruins to pray
Yes, Islam never shies away from the fact it offers a supposed ‘alternative corrected’ version of the biblical stories. In many cases they revere the Abrahamic (and subsequent) prophets equally. - only rejecting the divinity of Jesus.
It suggests that they were supposedly ‘corrupted’ in the Bible and Talmud and that the Quran offers the original version direct from the divine. - obviously a convenient position
@@misswarda78 "‘alternative corrected’ version (...) It suggests that they were supposedly ‘corrupted’ " No, it doesn't. That's what later MUSLIMS claim, not what the Quran says. They had to invent that apologetic nonsense later to make sense of it, but it doesn't work.
@@nonomnismoriar9051 Please could you clarify what you mean between the ‘original quran’ and ‘later apologetic nonsense’?
We only have the Uthman Quran and the palimpsest at Sina and fragments of Kufic script in various museums. Any prior versions were destroyed.
Also when does your timeline for ‘later muslims’ start? - with the Hadith?
As all our knowledge of Islamic history comes from the Hadith and works of Tabari - the two are basically intertwined.
@@nonomnismoriar9051 Also I would also politely clarify that the Uthman Quran ( the Quran used today) describes in multiple ways (by implication) the alteration of previous religious works and it was upon this, that those such as Al Tabari based his polemic.
The following are just a couple of examples - there are many more.
[Quran 6:115] And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words...
[Quran 18:27] And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord. There is no changer of His words...
@@misswarda78 That's not what I said. I didn't say "original Quran". I just mean the Quran, which I assume for the sake of argument and with no good reason to doubt, that it does go back to Muhammad in the 630's. The polemic you mentioned of corruption is contradicted by the Quran, and many ahadith still preserve this tradition: see Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 or Jami at Tirmidhi 2653; also look up the Islamic dilemma here on youtube. Here's a very short introduction: ruclips.net/video/nNAS0aaViM4/видео.html&ab_channel=HatunTashDCCIMinistries
At 13:40 notice how professor Firestone was reluctant to admit that his name was in fact Mohammed; because the name Mohammed is mentioned in their scriptures in Soliman 5:16. In fact at the time of Mohammed many Jews believed him and accept the msg of the Quran because it was taught that someone will come in that name.
If many Jews believed in him then those same Jews would have expected him to recapture Jerusalem, rebuild Solomon’s Temple 🕍 and die in Jerusalem. What do we find? He did nothing of the sort and died in Medina!
@@inquisitivemind007 you are confusing two prophets, Mohammed PBUH and the Messiah. The Messiah (AkA Jesus is expected to come back, rebuilt the temple and die in Jerusalem.
@@Lebnaniyi Luke 13:33 says no prophet shall die outside Jerusalem. From a Jewish ✡ perspective they don't believe in Jesus so they are expecting someone else.
@@inquisitivemind007 who said that?? Read it again. Who? Is it red from Jesus? Luke….more like Paul’s apostle than Jesus’s apostle. Paul….the anti-Christ.
@@Lebnaniyi I'm not a Christian and I don't deny all the problems with the Gospel of Luke but if you were to ask a Christian 1400 years ago or a Jew that another prophet would come where would he die? They will all say Jerusalem.
👏Very honest and true discussion. May many such things happen again and again, it helps to contain each other, hug each other.
Excellent informative and enlightning discussion.
It was a great interview. Enjoyed listening to it.
It was a pleasant surprise to hear such positive things about Islam from a Jewish rabbi.
Most of the religions of the world initially give very simple teachings for human education and training,
but later the self-interested priests change these religions for their own purposes. Quran have discussed this phenamena in detail.
If such changes are removed from these religions, the commonality in the pure religions is much greater than the disagreement.
In religions that believe in the oneness of God, this sharing is very high.
In order to avoid the fog created by selfish priests and reach the original teachings of the religion,
it is necessary to look at the original books of the prophets without any commentary, history and traditions, then one can reach the original message of the Prophets.
I've never seen a video like this. Keep up the good work.
Good talked. Would be better to discuss the facts that a lot of Muhammad’s prophecies centuries later are proven and in line with modern sciences. Coincidental ?
Fun fact. Muhammad believed that his strange version of the Last Day was imminent. So he told his gullible followers that 'the Last Day will not come until the Muslims k*ll all Jews and are sacking Christian Constantinople and a great clamour will arise that Dajal has come. Isa will descend at Lod (airport) and kill Dajjal, kill all piggywigs, destroy all crosses and declare for Islam.' Lovely warlord that he was. 😁
Hahaahahaha
I’ve heard something like this before in Greg Conte’s early writings and then later Mark Brahmin. Interesting to see where Dr. Firestone takes it. There’re some fascinating connection between Islam’s nearness to / cultivation in Medina and other stuff like the Arabic word for ethnic nationalism that is used to describe the idea of one Islamic world. Asha Logos also speaks on this in his videos about how the Js worked together with the Muslims at places like Moorish Cordoba.
PAYING THE JIZYA: Yes, the Js got rich from playing the middle man between the Christian and the Muslim world...
@@mahalallel2012 They were successful because both Christianity and Islam both prohibit money lending with interest.
‘A combination of fear and arrogance’. Well said Rabbi. I like the idea of 1 tribe with 3 views with a core commonality that’s often forgotten.
Very interesting. Thank you both for your contribution
I find it amazing that ordinary people that are not phds but are well researched material are well informed especially when you’re not defending a faith but wanted to find the truth.
it’s the truth that defends faith like no other except Islam . The truth is with Islam however hard one may try to separate it from Islam, and many do in utter failure.
"Well, researched material" is research done by PhD's or students working on their dissertations. "Source" material is when you get access to the historical documents, artifacts which confirm your argument.
Students, working on their doctoral dissertation, and those who have attained their doctorates often must master the language and ancient form(s) of that language in which the evidence is based. Many times more than one language. My sister had to master 3, Hopi for her Master, Arabic, Sanskrit and Hindi for her PhD, plus take up residence in India for many years.
We learn some things on RUclips, or purchase books, of various credentialed scholars but we cannot know if their conclusions are 100% correct.
Many times it is based on one side when there may be many. To the university board they must prove their argument is possible to a strong degree.
While one day another student may come along and overturn their findings. In the meantime, we think we are well researched enough knowing somebody's past conclusions.
Everything said by every scholar on this channel and it's host many be overturned one day. Until that time, like science's rule, you must be open to NEW studies, concepts, conclusions, tests, and archeological discoveries.
We, as non academics, are not allowed access to source materials. You must get permission from the government of the nation, and the independent body which is housing the source materials which your study is centered.
Also, libraries have source material open ONLY to those in the process of attaining their degrees or having attained it.
We learn from them, even if they are not always right or giving us the whole picture.
@@fazalm. The changed and CORRUPTED quran dilemma = allah(peace be upon HER) is 100% FALSE :
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims).
sahih muslim 1452a, book 17, hadith 30
Show me in the quran the verse of the 5 sucklings
@@polokucoch8112Your mind has been corrupted with all the made up bullshit. Get it repaired please before some one like me gets his hands on it.
@@polokucoch8112get rid of the made up BS embedded in your head. If you don't I'll have to take it out from your head. BS guys with made-up BS in their heads.
Pro Muhammad pbuh , was top memorizer of Quran and passed it to 124,000 companions and the Quran was preserved through memory and now written
It was written on stones, bones and animal skin during the time of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH too
What happened to the pages of the Qur'an that Ayisha gave to the goat to eat which was regarding adult breast sucking. Did she or any expert memorize it and was it reproduced in written form later. How much of the original sayings of Muhammad records written on stone, leaves, strips of bark, bones, etc were burnt. Shouldn't they all have been preserved as important messages passed on by Angel Gabriel from God. How many original manuscripts and how many Qur'an are there at presen?
I never spent 1-hour listening to RUclips except for this podcast. Thank you both for this great civilized discussion. Greeting from Arabia
Thank you for these videos with Professor Reuven. I wish to inform you that prophet Moses, son of Amram is an important prophet and messenger of God and is the most frequently mentioned individual in the Quran, with his name being mentioned 136 times and his life being narrated and recounted more than that of any other prophet. He is one of the most important prophets and messengers of Islam.
but why does Islam not recognize the most important thing that Moses has received from God, which are the 10 commandments? They are so essential.
@@pikapi6993 that's an ignorant question.
@@pikapi6993 Actually, Islam praises the 10 commandments. Fundamentally, Ethically and religiously Indeed. not because its IN the Torah.
The islamic position of the Torah is agnostic. Quran Mentioned that, the older books are corrupt and may contain bad information tied to good one. Some of it is right and some is wrong. Quran is the literal word of god and will judge between the books and affirm what is right and what is wrong, The scripture contains falsification tests to assure the source and content . If you can be unbiased and think for just 15 minutes, you will figure it out.
@@MoustafaMagdy0 lmao. You really don't understand what the 10 commandments are. They are the direct word of God. He wrote them himself and gave them to Moses. The fact that you don't know them, don't know their history, don't know their significance proves that Quran is not the Word of God. Your Allah doesn't know anything. He is unable to inform you about important things. He knows nothing, yet Muslims claim they believe in the same God.
The list of things that Muslims don't know is so long. The day I learned about it I knew for sure that Islam is false.
@@MoustafaMagdy0
The koran makes that claim,that the Torah is corrupt. but i can same the same about the koran,, the Torah came first,, and that which is perfect cannot be changed.
תהלים יט׃ח־טו
Psalms 19:8-15
19:8
תּ֘וֹרַ֤ת יְהֹוָ֣ה תְּ֭מִימָה מְשִׁ֣יבַת נָ֑פֶשׁ עֵד֖וּת יְהֹוָ֥ה נֶ֝אֱמָנָ֗ה מַחְכִּ֥ימַת פֶּֽתִי׃
The Torah of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
19:9
פִּקּ֘וּדֵ֤י יְהֹוָ֣ה יְ֭שָׁרִים מְשַׂמְּחֵי־לֵ֑ב מִצְוַ֖ת יְהֹוָ֥ה בָּ֝רָ֗ה מְאִירַ֥ת עֵינָֽיִם׃
The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
19:10
יִרְאַ֤ת יְהֹוָ֨ה ׀ טְהוֹרָה֘ עוֹמֶ֢דֶת לָ֫עַ֥ד מִשְׁפְּטֵֽי־יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱמֶ֑ת צָֽדְק֥וּ יַחְדָּֽו׃
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever; the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
19:11
הַנֶּחֱמָדִ֗ים מִ֭זָּהָב וּמִפָּ֣ז רָ֑ב וּמְתוּקִ֥ים מִ֝דְּבַ֗שׁ וְנֹ֣פֶת צוּפִֽים׃
More to be desired are they than gold, even very fine gold; sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
19:12
גַּם־עַ֭בְדְּךָ נִזְהָ֣ר בָּהֶ֑ם בְּ֝שָׁמְרָ֗ם עֵ֣קֶב רָֽב׃
Moreover by them is your servant warned; and in keeping of them there is great reward.
19:13
שְׁגִיא֥וֹת מִֽי־יָבִ֑ין מִֽנִּסְתָּר֥וֹת נַקֵּֽנִי׃
Who can discern his errors? Clean me from hidden faults.
19:14
גַּ֤ם מִזֵּדִ֨ים ׀ חֲשֹׂ֬ךְ עַבְדֶּ֗ךָ אַל־יִמְשְׁלוּ־בִ֭י אָ֥ז אֵיתָ֑ם וְ֝נִקֵּ֗יתִי מִפֶּ֥שַֽׁע רָֽב׃
Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me; then shall I be blameless, and innocent of great transgression.
19:15
יִֽהְי֥וּ לְרָצ֨וֹן ׀ אִמְרֵי־פִ֡י וְהֶגְי֣וֹן לִבִּ֣י לְפָנֶ֑יךָ יְ֝הֹוָ֗ה צוּרִ֥י וְגֹֽאֲלִֽי׃
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock, and my redeemer.
I like this discussion and this rabbi is far more capable of delving into these topics than most Aryanic Orientalists with primitive need to paint Arabs or Islam with a specific brush that makes them feel a bit better about Germanic nations history or Christians history.
The rabbi has given a fair and balanced take. However, there is often lack of acknowledgement that many tribes in western Arabia did consider themselves the descendants of Ishmael, and the custodians of the Kaaba temple of Mecca which was built by Abraham and Ishmael. There were many monotheists in Arabia who called themselves 'Hanafis' and considered both Judaism and Christianity as later religions from the first teachings of the Arab father, Abraham. They consider themselves to be sticking to the Abrahamic traditions rather than later religions. In every community in Arabia, there were a group that were monotheistic and refer only to Abraham. These were among the Arabs who immediately followed Muhammed and they even arrived in Mecca from all over Arabia before Islam gained strength. These Ishmaelite monotheists with affiliation to only Abraham are never considered by western scholars.
The assumption that Ishmael sons didn't hold on to their father Abraham and the assumption that all monotheistic traditions in the peninsula are somehow borrowed from Judaism is an utter and complete erasure of Ishmael and all the tribes that descended from him. Islam respected Judaism, not like how the west thinks, of Judaism being the original and Islam being a copy. No, but rather more as Judaism is what God revealed to our dear cousin Moses before the ultimate message finally revealed to the son of Ishmael. It is an acknowledgement of the decency and truthfulness of Judaism, but the utter refusal of it being a core or origin of monotheism. Quran clearly rejects giving such credit to Judaism or Christianity and rather clearly states: 'then was Abraham Jew or Christian? Now was he?'
Islam indeed sees that Monotheism is Abrahamic, a message started by the father, and ended by the son of Ishmael, with Judaism being perfect temporary message for its time, while the final son of Ishmael, Muhammed, was the end of all Abrahamic messages, the ultimate explainer of it all, and the only perfect and complete iteration of them all.
In the most overly optimistic version of pre Islamic history, native Ishmaelite monotheistic traditions that trace back to Abraham since he built the Kaaba continued for a very long time in Mecca up until one well known trader a few centuries before Muhammed bought and brought the first Idols from North or Western African pagans. Ishmaelites then eventually lost many of their monotheistic mainstream traditions with only few stuck to their guns. Muhammed came in a conquering army to Mecca and literally removed all imported idols and locally made idols from the Kaaba, and he said that Abraham built it for us, his progeny, as a monotheistic temple. Muhammed even mentioned the man who introduced idols to Mecca for the first time and eventually ruined the monotheistic faith of the sons of Ishmael, and mentioned his name as 'Luhay bin Amr' as one of the major sinners among the sons of Ishmael. Arabians, in many versions of their scholarly history, claim that Ishmaelites in Mecca were strictly monotheistic until that aforementioned man introduced idols to Meccans. This is far more deep and local to Arabia than to be ignored. This whole aspect of Arabia is never discussed, with over-focusing on the neighboring Judaistic influence instead of discussing the core ideology of Arabia, and the famous acknowledging of even pagan Arabs that Abraham wasn't pagan. Muhammed was even described by Meccans as trying to bring back ancient myths of monotheism, paradise, and hell. They knew monotheism was old school. Interestingly, even pagan Arabs remained deistically monotheistic, and acknowledged that the creator is rather one single God, but the idols are mere beloved agents accepted by that main God.
So interesting to listen to as a former Mormon.
What parallels stand out to you the most?
@@thescoobymike This is a difficult one to answer, since we could basically go point-by-point on the parallels and what it has to say about Mormonism and it's relationship to Judaism. I should write that up...
@@Josh-ii8ix
The following could be of great interest and intrigue for you. I'd love that you try to challenge and refute. All I ask is that you respond with honesty.
*Do YOU realize that the ONLY people on the face of the earth who practice and uphold and preach and defend the doctrine and honor of Jesus OF THE BIBLE are the Muslim* ?????
It's an amazing situation really. On each and every fundamental doctrine, Christianity is AGAINST Jesus of their very own scriptures BUT the Muslim is calling the Christians to go by what Jesus precticed and preached. 🤗
👉 Jesus gave the Trinity-DESTROYING testimony that THE FATHER (SINGLE PERSON) IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD but the Christians testify that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (The Trinity) is the true God.
👉 John 4:21-22
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, *WORSHIP THE FATHER* .
Ye worship ye know not what: *WE* know what *WE WORSHIP* : for salvation is of the Jews.
Have another look:
*WE WORSHIP*
(The J-E-W nation INCLUDING ME - Jesus)
👉 “And this is life eternal, that they might know *YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD* , and Jesus Christ, whom *YOU* have sent.”
John 17:3
👉 John 20:17: “Jesus saith unto her, ...I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and TO MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.”
Have another look!
".... *TO MY GOD and YOUR GOD* "
ME and YOU 👉 *WE*
*WE WORSHIP*
THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER who is THE GOD OF ME (Jesus) and YOU 👉 *OUR GOD*
👉 And Jesus answered him, THE FIRST OF ALL the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord *OUR GOD* is one Lord
Mark 12:29
👉 Jesus teaches: “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and *HIM ONLY* shalt thou serve” Luke 4:8. Notice the words: “HIM ONLY.” Jesus did not say “US only,” or “Him and I only.” How could he possibly i it more clear than that? Jesus told to worship ONLY THE FATHER - who is THE GOD of Jesus too.
👉 NEVER preached about Original Sin
👉 NEVER preached that for salvation, people needed to believe that Jesus died (will die) for their sins
👉 NEVER preached that the wages of sins is death
👉 PREACHED that for the forgiveness - NO payment needed, NO sacrifice of Jesus, NO Jesus paid for us
👉 PREACHED that just turn away in sincere repentance and the Merciful God forgives
👉 PREACHED adherence to the comprehensive Law Code as the path to salvation
👉 PREACHED that for certain transgression (like mur-der) on the Law Code, CAPITAL punishment - PUTTING the transgressors to DE ATH - needed to be administered
👉 PREACHED that his followers SHALL IN NO WAY ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN if they do not keep the comprehensive Law Code even better and moreso than the Scribes and the Pharisees
👉 DID NOT eat p.i.g
👉 FASTED and PREACHED FASTING
👉 Greeted with the phrase "peace be with you"
👉 Jesus was CIRCUMCISED. AN EVERLASTING COVENANT IN FLESH for the believers till the end of times
👉 PREACHED that his followers follow the comprehensive Law Code which the Scribes and the Pharisees tell people to follow - that includes oblution / washing of the hands and feet before worship or entering a place of worship
Why not consider Islam? At least read the Book.
I learned so much I don't know where to begin and my heart is full. The three great Abrahamic religions share common roots and a belief in the One God and yet various denominations and sects pit themselves against each other. I never really understood that. I didn't know that Jihad actually meant "struggle."
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
Go to Lloyd de Jongh for honesty about jihad. He's researched what the highest level of Islamic scholarship ( across centuries) has to say about what Islam is.
@@ReverendDr.Thomas I'm not a theist, and I approached the situation honestly.
I was 19, about to get deployed to (blank) and then from there to (blank) and I was honestly scared of my mind. I joined the Army to tour Europe and have an adventure, not killed in battle or from accident in a conflict I didn't believe in.
I decided that since I was going to Muslim countries, and the Army wasn't exactly forthcoming with reliable information, that it would do me good to read the Quran. It's in English, it's available at my local bookstore, I've got some free time, and I'd like to learn about other religions....
It destroyed my opinion of religion. I read it and I was *astounded* at how primitive and brutal and stupid and pointless it was.
I found myself thinking that there was *no WAY* that Muslims had read it, considering how backwards and primitive and stupid it was.
Then I realized that the exact same argument applied... To *Me.*
And I read the Bible . As a book. Front to Back, beginning to end. Genesis to Revelation. Eden to Anti-Christ.
And as a direct result of that, I became an Atheist. I read the books. The... belief that these gods or supernatural beings, that they're allowed to be capricious and brutal and violent and rapacious simply because they're powerful is...Very obnoxious to my current sensibilities.
The Bible and the Quran are *FICTIONAL* , first and foremost. I couldn't make it through the Book of Mormon, but considering Joseph Smith was a convicted Con-Artist, I can't imagine that it's all that different.
@kristina zboodram Thank you. Mohamed stole his ' revealation' and sought validation for it but was turned down very early in the day by the Jews and muslims who saw through his antics. Islam cannot survive except it clains the Torah and Christian book has been corrupted. Only Mohammed has a dissenting voice, every true Prophets of God spoke unanimously aboutJ Jesus death, resurrection and messianship
All Abrahamic religions are supposed HATE wickedness!
Despising evil acts is Civilized.
As a Muslim I love the respectful conversation.
This was a nice interview. Derek you asked very good questions that were not answered or were wrongly answered unfotunetly. As a student of religion and ancient civilizations for almost 20years now, professor Reuven had to many errors in his statements. A big one is that Islam started with prophet Muhammad which everyone knows is wrong. Islam started with Prophet Adam. Not to go to deep into this if you know what Islam means then you will know what im saying. Also to say that writing was discovered only 3000 years ago is a huge mistake and shows that his knowledge of history is very weak, we have writings that are over 8000 years according to mainstream archaeology and thats a know fact like the slab. Also with the findings in Göbekli Tepe we can say minimum 12000 years not to speak about other findings that the mainstream-controlled archaeologists don't want us to know because they will have to admit that everything they said this far is wrong. If we believe in the Quran and in the this Surah “Proclaim! (or Read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created―
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful―
He Who taught (the use of) the Pen―
Taught man that which he knew not.” (al-Alaq, 96/1-5
Then we can ask the question when was man taught to use the pen? Only God knows how many thousand or tens of thousands of years that was.
Also some other statements the professor made were very questionable. But overall it was a good interview.
Need to pin this
Bro a good observations, I was like the guy is not well versed in Qur'an,the prophet hood of Muhammed was explicit in the Qur'an,few places are :Muhammad was but only a prophets ,indeed many were messengers before him,another one,is Muhammad Rasulullah,and etc so,the issues is settled without mentioning of traditional prophetic saying, I'm surprised how it hides from in plain sight
As a Muslim today I learnt a lot from this Jew ..... Thanks mythvision.
THIS GUY IS FAIR AND REASONABLE. WISH ALL RABBIS ARE LIKE HIM
Derek as your speaking I am recalling Qur'an verses that highlight the ideas.
Loved the talk. Rabbi you the man. Derek thankful and grateful for the efforts. Peace🙂
Thank you for this interview. I’m an ordinary Muslim NOT a scholar. My understanding is that Islam (which mean submission to Will of God) was prescribed to all Prophets starting from Adam… over on hundred thousand prophets and massagers were appointed for guidance of mankind. From Adam to Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon them) Abraham, Noah, David, Suliman, Moses, Jesus are mentioned in the holy Quran.
Your guest tried either intentionally or unintentionally he was not all accurate. When a child is born he or she is given a name and Muhammad SAW was given his name when he was born and his name means The Praise Worthy One.
All religions are man-made. Mohammad, a violent con man, stole from Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Judaism.
There is the narrative that a people teach their kids, and then there is the real story.
The evidence doesn't support the idea that all these different prophets were taught the same religion.
That's just something Mohammad wanted to believe.
Islam is too violent.
Lilly False narrative
@@bunnylarese2161 …. Don’t make statements based on what you’re are fed. Look who is doing the killings, invasions in the name of DEMOCRACY. terrorists are trained funded and used to kill Muslims yet Islam is still the fastest growing religion of God. More and more are converting/reverting to Islam than any other religion.
"Pre-existing" is a wonderfully diplomatic word.
Islam brought me to the true realization (one God )and the genuine love for Prophets including Jesus and Muhammad .
Keeping the peace would be enough knowledge we'd need to know.
Thank you for this useful interview
Note:
The issue of the bridge that is thinner than a hair and under it is Hell, was never mentioned in the Qur’an and was never referred to.
The word (Al-Siraat) was mentioned, meaning the path, and it appeared in two forms: the path of righteousness and paradise and the path of corruption and hell.
Some of the people of Hadith linked and developed the concept of the path of after while , maybe after the fall of the Persian Empire, and a class of Persian Muslim scholars formed who became famous for their work in the science of Hadith and oral narrations.
Thanks
I would suggest that these two read the Quran first and remake this video
Yes there is a lot of Jew hatred in the quran so how could anyone who knows it say it is a Jewish religion???
Haha you clown 😂 muslim
فسوف يغلمون
All religions are man-made. Mohammad, a violent con man, stole from Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Judaism.
@@hggfhh4449 like i said read the quran first or any book for that matter before one pass any judgement. As far as my reading of the Quran is that anyone, including jews and hippocrates among the Muslims who disobey God’s commands are reprimanded and warned of painful eternal punishment if they do not sincerely repent. The glaring similarity of both religion is that both strictly adhere to the Oneness of God.
Enjoyed the wide ranging objective views presented. Would have liked to hear about the influence Zoroastrian had on the three Abrahamic religions as if I understood correctly Zoroastrianism is one of the oldest (if not the oldest) monotheistic religions and widely practiced by people in Babylon too.
I like this type of approach. I myself, as an Iranian who has left Islam and religion altogether, write about Islam on my Facebook page. I, always refer to Muhammed as The holy prophet. I use exactly the same title as Muslims do. My main goal is to create a discussion with Muslims, or at least, make them read my posts. If I disrespect their holy personalities, they would not like to consider my texts seriously.
You are just manipulating. Thanks for letting this know.
Judiasm is named after Juda, Christianity is named after Christ.
Islam is named after an action, it means submission to the one God. Muslims are people who submit to the one God alone.
Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(peace be upon them all) all submitted themselves to the one God alone. Making them Muslim.
Derek “I’m a skeptic, I’m interested in scholarship, I wanna find out what really happened, I’m trying to get people to mature” never seems to chip away at Judaism. Just Christianity.
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@Don´tbehasty Also Christianity is the biggest religion in the world in terms of adherence, outnumbering Jews more than 100x times, so I think the priorities are quite clear here.
@@MrEVAQ naive
@@GodwardPodcast Which part? Maybe you can walk me through which part I am being naive so I can have more awareness like you
@@GodwardPodcast of?
Muslims do not consider their religion to be an offshoot of Judaism. According to Islamic teachings, God had sent prophets, messengers, or teachers of righteousness to all nations of the world [by one tradition nearly 124,000 of them] but over time the message changed and people started worshipping lesser gods (while, in most cases, still retaining the concept of One Supreme God).
There are hints of that in the Old Testament itself! Monotheism must have existed in Palestine even before Abraham set foot on it. In the Torah, there is the story of Abraham being greeted and blessed by Melchizedek, King of Salem. He is referred to as the Priest of the Most High, which obviously means that he worshipped the same God as Abraham. Some Christians have come up with the theory that Melchizedek was Jesus, but that is just ludicrous.
In the Old Testament we also find the story of Jethro, Moses' father-in-law. He was a monotheist but wasn't a Jew or a Hebrew. He must have given the Book of Job to Moses, who translated it from Old Arabic to Hebrew. How do we know this? That's because the original Hebrew still has many Old Arabic words which Moses couldn't translate and retained them.
Even Western scholars who are hostile to Islam argue the point that monotheism was native to Arabia. H.A.R Gibb in his book ‘Muhammedanism’ argues that “The existence of a supreme God, Allah, is assumed as an axiom common to Muhammad and his opponents. The Koran never argues the point; what it does argue is that He is the one and only one. La ilaha illa’aalah, ‘there is no god but Allah. But it is more doubtful whether this is to be regarded as the direct deposit of Christian or Jewish teaching. In the Koran it is connected with a different tradition altogether, an obscure Arabian tradition represented by the so-called ‘hanifs’, pre-Islamic monotheists whose very name shows that the Syrians regarded them as non-Christians (Syriac “hanpa”, ‘heathen’). Muhammad glories in the name and attaches it as a distinctive epithet to Abraham, 'who was neither Jew nor Christian.”
Fun fact. Muhammad was illiterate so he never knew if the stories he heard were in the Bible or whether they were from apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels circulating at the time. That is how the daft stories about Jesus speaking in the cradle and making little clay birds got into his Qur'an. Also the daft stories about Solomon and his army of birds including the cute talking hoopoe. No wonder the Meccans mocked him, called him All Ears and said he was merely repeating 'legends of the ancients.' 😁
Ibrahim was a Yehudi (Thanks Giver)
Islam did not start in 7th century. Islam started with the first human being, Adam, who was also a prophet of God. All the Prophets who came later including Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus and finally Muhammad, peace be upon them all, were Muslims. All of them preached Islam.
Judaism started when some Jews refused to accept Jesus, pbuh, as a true prophet of God. Christianity started when some people started thinking that Jesus, pbuh, was God. Both Judaism and Christianity are deviations from Islam. God gave only one religion. People started making their own religions.
What is Islam and what is Judaism? Those are names we humans made. Faith is one.
Deepity.
Best one
At 59 minute mark Reuven is wrong when he said Jihad is not in the Koran.. The truth is jihad against non believers is a core value in the koran
LMAO like you know more
@@jkmcgregor7797 yes I am sure about what I say
@@PremSingh0906 your interpretation but not my interpretation when i looked up the verse
@@jkmcgregor7797 don't get deceived... That's all I would say...
@@PremSingh0906 your the one who was decieved lmao
CORRECTIONS:
1. There is no Alexander the great in the Quran. Dhul Qarnayn was a monotheist and ATG was a known pagan.
2. I would like correct the Rabbi that the "jahiliyyah" is portrayed as "ignorance" in all aspects. The pagans arabs were masters of language, poetry, but the word "jahiliyyah" from a religious Islamic perspective means ignorance with respect to "the relationship with God i.e. true monotheism". Since paganism is contrary to true monotheism, the pre-Islamic period of Pagan Arabs is known as "jahiliyyah"
3. In islam there are women "prayer leaders", correction: In the "muslim world" there are women prayer leaders.
Interesting guest.
What about the Maat? Older we think.
Practicing Ethiopian Orthodox here. Church has been here since our Queen Sheeba.
My perspective is, all religions are great and help those who believe, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BELIEVE TOO MUCH.
A tree is known by it's fruit.
And a plant by its vegetables
The birch tree, remind me of its fruit. I can't seem to remember what fruit it yields!
Firstly, with regard to the hadiths, the guest did not mention that there is a book that collects all the authentic hadiths, and this is what we rely on as Muslims. Secondly, with regard to the Qur’an, it did not emerge from the Torah and the Gospel, but the similarity was necessary because the Qur’an is the word of God, and it addresses all nations, not just the Arabs, so it was necessary to He mentions the stories of the previous prophets. Thirdly, we believe that Islam began with the descent of our master Adam and all the prophets were Muslims, and this is what our master Abraham said in the Qur’an. Fourthly, all the prophets came with righteous miracles in their time, but the Prophet Muhammad came with miracles for all times in the present and the future because he is charged with guiding all nations and he is The Seal of the Prophets, and you can search for the miracles mentioned in the Qur’an, and in the age of technology, scientists discovered them, and some of them were surprised and became Muslims, knowing that the Torah and the Bible are forbidden books, so Islam came. The Torah insults the Lord, and the Bible associates another god with it. Finally, I advise the owner of the platform to read the biography of his life. Prophet Muhammad, so that you may have new ideas, and I ask God to open your heart to Islam
You should interview Dr. Ali Ataie, he’s a Muslim expert in Islamic & Biblical Scriptures who reads Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, and Persian. You could learn a very good Orthodox Islamic perspective on History & Textual Criticism
I've been following your channel with great interest since discovering it a few months ago.
Your exploration of ancient texts is fascinating, and I'm curious if you've explored the Samaritan perspective. Specifically, how their version of the Torah, with its unique ancient Hebrew, compares to other texts, given that all are considered divinely inspired.
An intriguing aspect of Samaritanism is their historical divergence from mainstream Judaism. They identify as Israelites who, thousands of years ago, rejected the rabbinical developments adopted by other tribes. This is reflected in their religious practices: they don't follow the rabbinical prayers that replaced animal sacrifices during the Temple era. Instead, they maintain a distinct belief, focusing on Mount Gerizim rather than Jerusalem as the sacred site where the Tabernacle was placed. This divergence presents a unique lens through which to view ancient religious history and practices.
"With due respect, I believe the Rabbi may be overlooking a crucial point. When Prophet Mohammed was delivering his message, the initial audience was not Jewish or Christian; they were predominantly Pagan Arabs. The Prophet's message was not particularly aligned with the cultural and traditional beliefs of the Pagan Arabs. However, upon the Prophet's arrival in Medina, there were significant Jewish and Christian communities present , but still his presence was not welcomed by the local Jewish/ Christian communities. However, Angel Gabriel Re-affirm some prophet's existing knowledge he might learn from early traditions. Additionally, Gabriel gave him New information which was not known by the prophet through the earlier traditions.
As a Muslim I never heard any Jew scholar but man this guy is awesome and his knowledge and grip on Islam is highly impressive ❤
At 29:38, Rabbi Firestone states that the Quran rarely refers to Prophet Muhammad which is a misstatement. The statement is incorrect since the Quran mentions the Prophet Muhammad in the 2nd person numerous times.
Few corrections I'd like to point out:
1. The Qur'an, while not DIRECTLY quote from the old scriptures word to word, you'll come across certain verses that allude to very specific parts of the scriptures. Sometimes it's obvious, may even use the same wordings, sometimes it's subtle. If you look at the Qur'an the same way a cinephile dissects every frame of a movie, you can expect to find all of them.
2. "Jahiliyya" refers to the theological and moral ignorance of a society. A society can be as advanced and sophisticated in terms of architecture, literature, sciences etc. and yet you'll find it riddled with castes, human sacrifices, infanticides, slavery, racism. Qur'an recognizes these material achievements, and dismisses them.