the app recognises the Chu2 DSP but then it's stuck waiting for "retrieving information from the device" and nothing happens forever... useless, but at least it sounds perfect without any EQ - thanks for the video!
@@vigneshg2935 thanks, my phone is Samsung S22 Ultra perfectly working, but you understand that all this is not really good for Moondrop... they must improve their software side if they want to be reliable and competitive :)
The freedom manufacturer can do with DSP it will enable End game tuning with the cheapest driver. Some people prefer their IEM is EQ'd by the maker so it's sound correct and accurate. Wait until the DSP tech mature it will be another IEM race to the bottom price once again.
Yeah, these sound top level tuned and much better than basic Chu 2. The cable is horrific though. Also, curious fact, Listener tuned these like it says on the box (spreading missinfo😂)
Just get da novas w/foam eatips if u want a 2019 tunning. It sounds amazing, for budget get the trn contch. It comes with tunning nozzles, a great qdc cable, GREAT eartips both silicon and foam. Just great iem overall
Its Just that the Cable of Chu 2 is well 'Thin'. I Myself uses the Original Moondrop Chu 2 but with Custom Cable with a DAC. And when Paired with Crinical's Recommended: Poweramp Equalizer. And Play it with the tuning of Hidition Viento B Custom. IT SOUNDS MAGICAL.
im dont know anything about these dsp and iem things , i just bought the chu 2 dsp, should i use any equalizer or any settings in the moondrop link (the android app) , and i have a question does the setting remain the same even if i use the chu 2 dsp to my laptop or other devices or it just came back to the default settings?
The only other company doing DSP is Tanchjim with Tanya DSP and One DSP. I've only tried Tanya DSP which is very bassy and fun, but suffer the same issues old DSPs suffer from.
Tbf, there really isn't much to compare with to begin with. I don't see many companies (if any at all excluding moondrop and tanchjim) that do this. The zero has already kind of been replaced. Not sure about the ew100 dsp but the ew100p exists 🤷♂️
It may not be moondrop's intention but DSP iems are actually providing an easy entry for iPhone users to higher quality music (rip lightning models) by simply plugging in and ready to go. Since iPhone doesn't have any Bluetooth codec besides aac, and Apple Music, which is made for iPhone devices at the first place, is now offering hires to lossless audio. DSP iem seems to become an affordable and convenient option for those who want to have high quality audio on their iPhones. Dongles generally offer higher quality than DSP iems undoubtedly, thus it seems that DSP iem is an alternative between dongle and tws (And yes moondrop's freeDSP actually can turn all iems into DSP iems technically haha)
I lost my airpod pros so i got these KZ ZVX from random shop with apple type c dongle, I saw some singers were using such kind of earphones I never knew these are some of the best passive noise isolating earphones, I'm blown away how they sound and the bass, I could hear each instrument without distorting each other, I got these for 20$ ffs , after little research here I am in IEM rabbit hole... Where do I go from here? Should I order Chu2 will I hear the difference?
@@FJ10A welcome to the IEM world haha, i have owned a ZAX and i believe i have heard the ZVX for once, the sound signature of these two are something i would call ''kz's style', powerful and strong bass while having good seperation between each elements in the song. For Moondrop, i have not heard of the chu2 yet but i have owned a couple of it's products like the MAY, aria 2 and the successor chu1. They all have the 'Moondrop Signature', quick and responsive bass, brighten vocal (may not seem obvious on female vocal but male vocal yes), the treble may appear to be thin and clear. For classic rock/R&B genre, i would prefer KZ's iem over Moondrop but when it comes to songs like JPop/Anime, Moondrop's iem would be fitting so well. About the physical comfortability, personally KZ's shell fit my ear better than Moondrop's, as Moondrop usually utilise metal while KZ is using plastic. I do have an unplesant time when wearing the chu1. My personal recommendation is Moondrop MAY, given that the price level is different to chu2, the fitting of MAY is one of the best iems i have encountered. It also comes with DSP that allows user to adjust the equaliser through the app.
@@FJ10A it seems RUclips has hidden my last comments. If you prefer the way ZVX sounds, chu2 may seem a bit too bright and lack of bass energy. Also the fitting is not as good as ZVX. My recommendation for Moondrop option is MAY, truly pleasant fitting, better bass presentation
@@uni_skcl after watching bunch of videos I ordered Truthear Zero that blue one and MAY from AliExpress do I need to upgrade apple dongle or is it enough for me to drive Zeros? Thanks for advice
Recently bought these Moondrops and instantly liked them. Sadly uncomfortable for me as a physical fit after 30mins so back to my Warriors which I tuned with MSEB. All about personal preferences!
Good one, thank for the review. Coming back to the the previous pool about either DSPs a separate class - if take cable from Aria 2 and connect to May, will it be just a good analog IEM? As I got DSP is made just by adding a cable with built DAC but IEM itself is just an IEM, isn't?
Hey, I was looking to buy Simgot EW200, but couldn't find it in your ranking list. is it not good at all or you haven't just tested it? Would like to know your opinion on it if you have tested it.
The cables add an eq. With the Moondrop app you can choose different eq presets and tbh that's It. They're just the normal analogue ones with more eq options which have a better tuning sometimes
I'm looking to get an IEM, it's gonna be my first one. I'm a beginner. Do I get 7hz Salnotes Zero with mic + Dac Dongle or the Chu 2 DSP with mic? Which one will sound better for both gaming (competitive) and music?
Despite of not having both of them specifically, i have SIMILAR to both. (Salnotes Zero)Simgot EW100 vs Moondrop Chu 2 (analogue) (putting aside competitive gaming since i do not do that, it would be) Simgot EW100.
@@faisalfirdausiinn4708 Thanks but I already bought the Salnotes Zero with a dac. The experience so far has been very good. Sound quality is much improved over my Galaxy Buds Pro especially on loss less music. Gaming too is great especially on Valorant where the imaging is somewhat helpful. Only con I would say is that my ear hurts over time. Although I've gotten used to it now, it seems a bit bigger for my ears. And the eartips are VERY, VERY hard to change. But other than that, solid 9/10.
@@_fiftyseven_ As a person who own Salnotes Zero 2, i truly understand the discomfort resulted from its design. At least it is not as bad as Kinera Celest Wyvern.
@@_fiftyseven_ i would suggest investing in Ear Tips with long 'neck' hopefully to increase the longevity before hurting the ears. However that could lead to changing the overall sound a bit.
@@Gizaudio Uh great! I have thought like saltnotes Zero 2, TE Zero Red, Simgot EW200, Chu 2 (analog) and whatever you think it competes with. Thank you Timmy ☺️
GUYs, cmn he didn't even use the app and says this iem is best tuned sound. Anyone who owns a chu 2 dsp somehow get your app working, mine works jus fine. Forget the default presets. There are curated eqs and there is this one which has top downloads and likes,. by a Chinese guy written all in Chinese. Enable it hear and lemme know people. Am not an audiophile but a music lover. I feel this particular eq made chu 2 dsp golden. Any dsp iem worthy for an upgrade after hearing using this eq. Drop your recommendations. Why dsp ? Cos I don't have to buy a dac. I already status audio cb1 which won't need a dac. So just need one earphone and one headphone.
Can you please tell me the eq values for it? Like the frequency and the gain and qs. I have the analog chu 2 but eqed it to default dsp tuning and it sounds better. I would be really grateful if you could give me that tuning because I can't really access it through the app
When there is a lot going on in a song, these sound cheap and just simply bad. But when you listen to more calm music where it's just vocals and a few instruments, they're amazing for the price.
my first Iem and i really love how this sounds so far
same
same
the app recognises the Chu2 DSP but then it's stuck waiting for "retrieving information from the device" and nothing happens forever... useless, but at least it sounds perfect without any EQ
- thanks for the video!
@@vigneshg2935 thanks, my phone is Samsung S22 Ultra perfectly working, but you understand that all this is not really good for Moondrop... they must improve their software side if they want to be reliable and competitive :)
Would you like more between tangzu Waner and Chu II ??
The freedom manufacturer can do with DSP it will enable End game tuning with the cheapest driver.
Some people prefer their IEM is EQ'd by the maker so it's sound correct and accurate. Wait until the DSP tech mature it will be another IEM race to the bottom price once again.
Yeah, these sound top level tuned and much better than basic Chu 2. The cable is horrific though.
Also, curious fact, Listener tuned these like it says on the box (spreading missinfo😂)
Would love to see how it compares to things like the Zero 2, Wan er and TE Zero Red. Just to see well it stands against the other 20-50 dollar market
how does it compare to the regular chu II?
If you put the moondrop aria snow edition it goes insane I promise. You can feel bass.
You mean with a dsp cord? I heard it has the least bass on the three versions. 🤔🤔 Clean AF tho 😂😂
Just get da novas w/foam eatips if u want a 2019 tunning. It sounds amazing, for budget get the trn contch. It comes with tunning nozzles, a great qdc cable, GREAT eartips both silicon and foam. Just great iem overall
got them as my first IEMs and man, they sound great, love them
Really would like the driver(s) and size mentioned at the beginning.
Will do for next reviews
Its Just that the Cable of Chu 2 is well 'Thin'. I Myself uses the Original Moondrop Chu 2 but with Custom Cable with a DAC. And when Paired with Crinical's Recommended: Poweramp Equalizer. And Play it with the tuning of Hidition Viento B Custom.
IT SOUNDS MAGICAL.
I buy analog iems/headphones mainly because I don't have to worry about an app or getting an adapter for older hardware
On my Galaxy A33 + Moondrop link 2.0 Chu DSP is retunable really great IEMs
im dont know anything about these dsp and iem things , i just bought the chu 2 dsp, should i use any equalizer or any settings in the moondrop link (the android app) , and i have a question does the setting remain the same even if i use the chu 2 dsp to my laptop or other devices or it just came back to the default settings?
moondrop....dude, you gotta expand what IEMs you're comparing with
Moondrop has one of the best IEM and people are interested how they compare. Pff
The only other company doing DSP is Tanchjim with Tanya DSP and One DSP. I've only tried Tanya DSP which is very bassy and fun, but suffer the same issues old DSPs suffer from.
@@Gizaudio tanchjim zero, Simgot ew100
Tbf, there really isn't much to compare with to begin with. I don't see many companies (if any at all excluding moondrop and tanchjim) that do this.
The zero has already kind of been replaced. Not sure about the ew100 dsp but the ew100p exists 🤷♂️
Well theres the audezes with the cipher cables ig but there ain't much
would you say this is an upgrade from the og salnotes zero (techincal standpoint)?
I winced looking at the Chu 2's 8Khz spike in that graph.
If Moondrop May's DSP cable is used with Moondrop Chu2, is the sound different from Chu2's DSP cable?
🙏🏻
I was able to use the app with it. Great sound for the price!!
It may not be moondrop's intention but DSP iems are actually providing an easy entry for iPhone users to higher quality music (rip lightning models) by simply plugging in and ready to go.
Since iPhone doesn't have any Bluetooth codec besides aac, and Apple Music, which is made for iPhone devices at the first place, is now offering hires to lossless audio. DSP iem seems to become an affordable and convenient option for those who want to have high quality audio on their iPhones.
Dongles generally offer higher quality than DSP iems undoubtedly, thus it seems that DSP iem is an alternative between dongle and tws
(And yes moondrop's freeDSP actually can turn all iems into DSP iems technically haha)
I lost my airpod pros so i got these KZ ZVX from random shop with apple type c dongle, I saw some singers were using such kind of earphones I never knew these are some of the best passive noise isolating earphones, I'm blown away how they sound and the bass, I could hear each instrument without distorting each other, I got these for 20$ ffs , after little research here I am in IEM rabbit hole... Where do I go from here? Should I order Chu2 will I hear the difference?
@@FJ10A welcome to the IEM world haha, i have owned a ZAX and i believe i have heard the ZVX for once, the sound signature of these two are something i would call ''kz's style', powerful and strong bass while having good seperation between each elements in the song.
For Moondrop, i have not heard of the chu2 yet but i have owned a couple of it's products like the MAY, aria 2 and the successor chu1. They all have the 'Moondrop Signature', quick and responsive bass, brighten vocal (may not seem obvious on female vocal but male vocal yes), the treble may appear to be thin and clear.
For classic rock/R&B genre, i would prefer KZ's iem over Moondrop but when it comes to songs like JPop/Anime, Moondrop's iem would be fitting so well.
About the physical comfortability, personally KZ's shell fit my ear better than Moondrop's, as Moondrop usually utilise metal while KZ is using plastic. I do have an unplesant time when wearing the chu1.
My personal recommendation is Moondrop MAY, given that the price level is different to chu2, the fitting of MAY is one of the best iems i have encountered. It also comes with DSP that allows user to adjust the equaliser through the app.
@@FJ10A it seems RUclips has hidden my last comments. If you prefer the way ZVX sounds, chu2 may seem a bit too bright and lack of bass energy. Also the fitting is not as good as ZVX. My recommendation for Moondrop option is MAY, truly pleasant fitting, better bass presentation
@@uni_skcl after watching bunch of videos I ordered Truthear Zero that blue one and MAY from AliExpress do I need to upgrade apple dongle or is it enough for me to drive Zeros? Thanks for advice
Higher quality is subjective tho. Most of the music on apple music is 24 bit 44.1khz. I don't think you benefit from
32bit 384khz tbh
Recently bought these Moondrops and instantly liked them. Sadly uncomfortable for me as a physical fit after 30mins so back to my Warriors which I tuned with MSEB. All about personal preferences!
Good one, thank for the review. Coming back to the the previous pool about either DSPs a separate class - if take cable from Aria 2 and connect to May, will it be just a good analog IEM? As I got DSP is made just by adding a cable with built DAC but IEM itself is just an IEM, isn't?
Interesting review Timmy! I’ll get the Chu II DSP eventually. Please let’s us know what kind of music you listen to in the video!
wonder how it fares to the new Quark 2?
i wonder if you can put them on their older stuff like kato
I’m studying DSP and meta materials right now, working on my thesis, this has given me some ideas… also…What’s the outro song btw? Pretty please
Timmy Vangtan - Fuwa Fuwa
@@90377Se cheers!
Which is better in technical performance like sound stage , imaging,and resolution chu or may?
Chu 2 DSP
Hey, I was looking to buy Simgot EW200, but couldn't find it in your ranking list. is it not good at all or you haven't just tested it? Would like to know your opinion on it if you have tested it.
It's mainly bright, nothing special. Cadenza and this Chu 2 DSP are better.
DSPs will race to meet the iPhone users need since it adopts USB-C. Hopefully.
Great Vid as always. Thank You Timmy & Gizaudio Team. GGs.
Didn't think of that! Thanks for the insight.
Salnotes zero 2 vs regular Chu 2?
Chu 2 DSP for me personally.
@@Gizaudio is there any big differences between these IEMs that even any newbie might be able to notice it quickly?
can someone share the name of the song used in last in this video .. please ....
should i get the tangzu wan'er or the chu 2
I saw the title changed. There was a post earlier (not the best DSP) 🤔
I changed cause it was too long for my liking.
Which one is better overall moondrop chu 2 dsp or tanchjim one dsp
Are the Chu 2 DSP's a retuned model of the Chu 2 or are they the same Chu 2 iem with a type c DSP cable?
same
and mic
how do they compare to the analog chu 2?
overall, the chu 2 dsp/truthear zero/tangzu wan'er/salnotes zero is better?
moondrop may or zero red ?
Red for me still.
Red pure or red with 10ohm adapter?
Hi timmy tried the reds on 4.4 termination. It sounds a lot better.. is it only me? Or have you tried it?
@@Fabio_y23 adapter has always sounded muddy to me. default red is great anyways
Is this worth the upgrade from the current chu2 though
Can you recommend after market ear tips for the Chu 2 DSP?
Moondrop springtips
TENMARK Ultra Strong memory foam eartips. 4.9mm for the 6.1 mm nozzle of the Chu 2.
should i use the chu 2 dsp with the moondrop spring tip or the default one is already good
Isn't spring the default one? At list it was with original Chu (and I didn't like those tips)
If i have 3.5mm chu ll and i want Chu ll dsp should i buy just the cable or i need to Buy Chu ll dsp model
Buy the Chu 2 DSP might cheaper
Can anyone tell me whats so special about dsps?
I thought it was just normal iems with type c cable instead of 3.5
The cables add an eq. With the Moondrop app you can choose different eq presets and tbh that's It. They're just the normal analogue ones with more eq options which have a better tuning sometimes
vs Tanchjim DSP iems?
Planning to buy this. Does anyone use the type c variant on an s24 ultra? Also have you encountered any issues?
None that I've encountered, but try the NICEHCK sp4 cable with them.
I'm looking to get an IEM, it's gonna be my first one. I'm a beginner. Do I get 7hz Salnotes Zero with mic + Dac Dongle or the Chu 2 DSP with mic? Which one will sound better for both gaming (competitive) and music?
Despite of not having both of them specifically, i have SIMILAR to both.
(Salnotes Zero)Simgot EW100 vs Moondrop Chu 2 (analogue)
(putting aside competitive gaming since i do not do that, it would be) Simgot EW100.
@@faisalfirdausiinn4708 Thanks but I already bought the Salnotes Zero with a dac. The experience so far has been very good. Sound quality is much improved over my Galaxy Buds Pro especially on loss less music. Gaming too is great especially on Valorant where the imaging is somewhat helpful. Only con I would say is that my ear hurts over time. Although I've gotten used to it now, it seems a bit bigger for my ears. And the eartips are VERY, VERY hard to change. But other than that, solid 9/10.
@@_fiftyseven_ As a person who own Salnotes Zero 2, i truly understand the discomfort resulted from its design.
At least it is not as bad as Kinera Celest Wyvern.
@@faisalfirdausiinn4708 Yh, it's the weird shape the ends up hurting the ears.
@@_fiftyseven_ i would suggest investing in Ear Tips with long 'neck' hopefully to increase the longevity before hurting the ears.
However that could lead to changing the overall sound a bit.
Welp, this video is going to need an update lol
thank you Crin lol
May ordered ali 42€
What do you mean by "smooth" treble
Devoid of high Q peaks
@@Gizaudio Why is that important? Its really common to see 8k and air peaks, as well as a 10k dip in iem tuning.
As an iPhone user, I cry
No lcdi4!?!?
You should have compared this also with analog IEMS and not only from the same brand :c
Which ones would you want it compared to? I'm doing a long comparison video so you can leave your request here.
@@Gizaudio Uh great!
I have thought like saltnotes Zero 2, TE Zero Red, Simgot EW200, Chu 2 (analog) and whatever you think it competes with.
Thank you Timmy ☺️
GUYs, cmn he didn't even use the app and says this iem is best tuned sound. Anyone who owns a chu 2 dsp somehow get your app working, mine works jus fine. Forget the default presets. There are curated eqs and there is this one which has top downloads and likes,. by a Chinese guy written all in Chinese. Enable it hear and lemme know people. Am not an audiophile but a music lover. I feel this particular eq made chu 2 dsp golden. Any dsp iem worthy for an upgrade after hearing using this eq. Drop your recommendations. Why dsp ? Cos I don't have to buy a dac. I already status audio cb1 which won't need a dac. So just need one earphone and one headphone.
Can you please tell me the eq values for it? Like the frequency and the gain and qs. I have the analog chu 2 but eqed it to default dsp tuning and it sounds better. I would be really grateful if you could give me that tuning because I can't really access it through the app
@@Entyipo give me your email bro
It seems RUclips keeps deleting my comments, it's on my channel description though, I can't seem to post it here
@@Entyipo got it. I will send u in sometime
@@Entyipo dude it's 10000
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When there is a lot going on in a song, these sound cheap and just simply bad. But when you listen to more calm music where it's just vocals and a few instruments, they're amazing for the price.
the app is trash, but it sounds perfect without eq
The over-ear hook is really annoying on this IEM
can you describe what its like ? i’m still deciding on which iem i’ll be getting next
Sorry, RUclips did not send a notification about your comment. What do you mean by body shape or voice?@@caffeinefighter3433
@@caffeinefighter3433 its not really annoying it does tangle sometimes but the comfort it provides outweighs that imo
How does this DSP cable sound with other IEM's
It would apply the EQ it has onto whatever IEMs it's paired with.