My favorite use for this is feeding the sidechain a signal to duck frequencies out of the way of another sound. For instance, you could put it on your synth or guitar bus... route a vocal to it, turn on the sidechain, and then activate the preset called "flat start". Then with the depth knob it will pull down the conflicting frequencies to bring the vocal forward, very effectively in real time. Crazy time to be alive.
I love this! I started running it on my instrument bus and side chaining my vocals into soothe - to immediately start carving out frequencies for the vocals.
I really appreciate how you broke it down. You explain it so well. I've been using it by setting the presets then just moving knobs till it sounds better, not really knowing exactly how it works. I get it now. Thank You for your knowledge.
Oversampling is when a plugin converts the audio to a higher sample rate for processing. This means processing at the higher sample rate usually removes some of the negative artifacts associated with processing digital audio; mainly aliasing. It does not bring or give "quality." Think of this as "Comfortability." Someone that's 6'8 flying in coach (economy) where there's basically not much leg/knee space (KEYWORD) as to them flying first-class, where there are sufficient "headroom" for their legs. So. think of Oversampling as a form of having "Comfortable Space" for when you're doing compression | and | when you export/render/bounce/burn (what ever your daw calls it) your final product. 👌Great review on Soothe 2. I might just buy it after I try it out for a day or two. I'm always sceptic with these sort of plugins though.
You might have some of the best tutorials on mixing and mastering techniques of anyone I've ever watched. You have a real knack for breaking concepts down. Great video!
Devon, love the passion in your videos bro and how helpful your videos are in explaining what we are at looking at even for a beginner level producer/mixer.
I bought Soothe 2 Black Friday (7 months ago) Haven't tried it yet, just watched this & feel confident thanks to you, Devon! This is generous of you, helping us all out. Thanks brother!
Bro such an immaculate explanation of this plugin. I have tried to watch some other videos, and they were very basic compared to what you have presented us here with. 🙏
The innovation is the automatic detection of resonant frequencies and the automatic programming of the compressed bands (width and depth). But fundamentaly, this is still is a form of multiband compression, albeit with many more bands. As an alternative, a 'smoothing' can be achieved by driving a parallel signal into a tape (emulation) or a transformer (emulation) and blending in the saturated signal. Also, for the mids, parallel compression into a compressed , reduced bit rate signal channel can achieve 'smoothing'. But using this plugin appears to be a better method in that it is more surgical. A great use for this plugin would be to over use it on a send to a reverb. In any case, thanks for the video, and to the makers of Soothe, great plugin !!
I'm not convinced the "processing" is not compression. Still seems like an very advanced multiband compressor to me. But that doesn't matter at all. I'm gonna try it. Could save a lot of time.
It's detecting anything in the frequency that deviates from a pink noise reference. Very simple. No AI, it's just pushing the signal/peaks down to sound more flat like pink noise which in turn sounds more pleasant and so it should. You can zoom in on sections so that it only process that part of the frequency spectrum but to me, the only detection + decision making is based on the incoming signal and how much the resonance crosses the threshold of where it's expected to be when compared to a pink noise reference.
Bruh you murdered the explanation for this plug-in soo much that you should be getting serious financial kickback from Oeksound… by in large my interest is peaked based on you vid bruh…. As always D, excellent work man!!!
adobe audition has an fft filter with several presets that resemble a static version of a few of soothe2's presets, interesting stuff, I've used audition since it was cool edit
Thank you Devvon. Could you try Focusrite Fast? Focusrite's approach strikes me as quite modern and contemporary. No more turning knobs where a beginner doesn't know why he is turning those knobs.
I wish the Soothe2 manual explained all of the oddly named presets. It doesn’t . I even emailed the developers and they didn’t have an answer for me either. Is there anywhere that shows the practical uses for all of the presets that have weird titles ?
I’m going to be honest; eafter the representative’s explanation… it still sounds like a multi band. Felt to me as if instead of saying “bunny” he said “rabbit” - same thing to me (unless I’m missing something haha)
i guess essentially everything you see is not your vocal's spectrum but just picked out frequencies from the spectrum by a algorithm that they consider to be resonences and then they are compressed so it's a multiband with more steps but in that way less room for you to mess up
also the algorithm is probably mostly just a detector for tones in the spectrum that don't leave after how ever many seconds because a resonese is just a tone that stays too long
also that would explain why the eq graph shows drastic changes but the vocal isn't effected that drastically. because its actually just part of the spectrum picked out so you can squash them
Checkout RESO it’s actually a better version of soothe and to add on if you want a more clear explanation of what soothe is it’s called in the electrical engineering world we call it a all pass multiband adaptive band reject filter. When he mentioned there isn’t any bands that was just to simplify the explanation. To reduce the resonance you need a Q(bandwidth) and to have a bandwidth you need a band. Hopefully that clears it up a bit
It was always obvious that Soothe2 recognizes peak resonances, then uses a harmonic profile to determine which frequencies to suppress. You had an interesting question but completely failed on the follow-up. If they're not using an eq or a multi band compressor to suppress undesirable resonances, how are they doing it? Based on Oaksounds response, my number one assumption is that they're using an ai algorithm to affect the spectrum as if it's one band somehow. I'm very I retested in learning how that works.
Theoretically With soothe you can Skip That step but you can also do a substractive eq and After That Last in chain use soothe to clean up the finished mix :)
Subtractive EQ is used sometimes to make space, for instance, like removing bass frequencies from a synth. Maybe you want to remove those bass frequencies to make room for a kick and bass, so Soothe 2 won't do that automatically for you. Soothe 2 would focus on resonant frequencies.
I think it’s a little disingenuous for dude to say it’s not multiband. FFT processing is literally splitting the signal into a bunch of individual bands, and if you’re processing those separately, then it IS multiband processing. Maybe not exactly like a multiband compressor, but…
OTOH, if it’s actually FFT on the processing side (not just the analysis) then I guess you could say it’s “not multiband” because it’s actually resynthesis. :)
I wish the Soothe2 manual explained all of the oddly named presets. It doesn’t . I even emailed the developers and they didn’t have an answer for me either. Is there anywhere that shows the practical uses for all of the presets that have weird titles ?
My favorite use for this is feeding the sidechain a signal to duck frequencies out of the way of another sound. For instance, you could put it on your synth or guitar bus... route a vocal to it, turn on the sidechain, and then activate the preset called "flat start". Then with the depth knob it will pull down the conflicting frequencies to bring the vocal forward, very effectively in real time. Crazy time to be alive.
Haha that’s what I just said! It’s like magic!
@@zacksymes Yeah homie, like magic indeed!
Is that like the same thing as trackspacer?
@@matthewchavezm.b.s5503 Yeah, i was wondering the same thing?? :)
Also use trackspacer for this
I love this! I started running it on my instrument bus and side chaining my vocals into soothe - to immediately start carving out frequencies for the vocals.
I really appreciate how you broke it down. You explain it so well. I've been using it by setting the presets then just moving knobs till it sounds better, not really knowing exactly how it works. I get it now. Thank You for your knowledge.
Glad to help!
You have a real talent to explain things so clearly, thx for that 🙏🏼💯💯
NGL Devon the dots concept kinda went over my head, the community needs you man we appreciate it🙏🙏🙏
Basically when u push a certain dot upwards, it will remove MORE of that frequency. Like the opposite of an EQ
Oversampling is when a plugin converts the audio to a higher sample rate for processing. This means processing at the higher sample rate usually removes some of the negative artifacts associated with processing digital audio; mainly aliasing. It does not bring or give "quality."
Think of this as "Comfortability." Someone that's 6'8 flying in coach (economy) where there's basically not much leg/knee space (KEYWORD) as to them flying first-class, where there are sufficient "headroom" for their legs. So. think of Oversampling as a form of having "Comfortable Space" for when you're doing compression | and | when you export/render/bounce/burn (what ever your daw calls it) your final product.
👌Great review on Soothe 2. I might just buy it after I try it out for a day or two. I'm always sceptic with these sort of plugins though.
You might have some of the best tutorials on mixing and mastering techniques of anyone I've ever watched. You have a real knack for breaking concepts down. Great video!
You dont watch the real masters
@@CRISSBLAZINY ce easter egg)))
Devon, love the passion in your videos bro and how helpful your videos are in explaining what we are at looking at even for a beginner level producer/mixer.
He really helps when it comes to mixing an mastering 💯
I’m glad you feel that way!!
Man I be hyped when I get notified you posted a new video! Thank you Devvon! 🙏🏽
No doubt yo!!
I bought Soothe 2 Black Friday (7 months ago) Haven't tried it yet, just watched this & feel confident thanks to you, Devon! This is generous of you, helping us all out. Thanks brother!
how much was it then
No idea it was 5 months ago
@@alanschwartz4047 thanks anyways bro for replying. What do you think of the plug-in long term?
I just wanted to say I love your videos man, watching your stuff made me better at mastering my vocals
I Just call ti Say i love you videos man
-Stevie wonder
I’m glad it helps!
Thank you for explaining more about this plug in!
Smoothe is a real game changer
Man seeing u outside of the studio is real rare. Thanks for this info brother 🙏🏾
This plugin is my next major addition of weapons to my mixing arsenal! Very informative AND relevant! Thanks for sharing!
This is the best explanation of Soothe2, thanks.
Bro such an immaculate explanation of this plugin. I have tried to watch some other videos, and they were very basic compared to what you have presented us here with. 🙏
The innovation is the automatic detection of resonant frequencies and the automatic programming of the compressed bands (width and depth). But fundamentaly, this is still is a form of multiband compression, albeit with many more bands. As an alternative, a 'smoothing' can be achieved by driving a parallel signal into a tape (emulation) or a transformer (emulation) and blending in the saturated signal. Also, for the mids, parallel compression into a compressed , reduced bit rate signal channel can achieve 'smoothing'. But using this plugin appears to be a better method in that it is more surgical. A great use for this plugin would be to over use it on a send to a reverb. In any case, thanks for the video, and to the makers of Soothe, great plugin !!
I gotta get that plug-in
What a great job bro, explained exceptionally well. Thanks
Super helpful! Think I’m gonna get this one soon I’ve heard a lot of great things
It’s so worth it highly recommend it
Yo! Incredible breakdown here Devvon🔥
Soothe's definitely becoming a plugin on most mixes now, and this made it even more useful.
I'm not convinced the "processing" is not compression. Still seems like an very advanced multiband compressor to me. But that doesn't matter at all. I'm gonna try it. Could save a lot of time.
It's detecting anything in the frequency that deviates from a pink noise reference. Very simple. No AI, it's just pushing the signal/peaks down to sound more flat like pink noise which in turn sounds more pleasant and so it should. You can zoom in on sections so that it only process that part of the frequency spectrum but to me, the only detection + decision making is based on the incoming signal and how much the resonance crosses the threshold of where it's expected to be when compared to a pink noise reference.
Very interesting. Nice post
Dope video was just looking for this last night. Where are you putting this last in the chain or first?
Choice is really yours sometimes I put it last and sometimes I put it early. Or on the stereo bus
Bruh you murdered the explanation for this plug-in soo much that you should be getting serious financial kickback from Oeksound… by in large my interest is peaked based on you vid bruh…. As always D, excellent work man!!!
Just what I needed
Great video! Wish we had a video like this for Gullfoss and explained what it's doing to a mix.
Is that where you master stems right?
Best video I have seen on this plugin. Great job! And dang...your video is pretty sweet! Do you have a video on how you record your videos? NICE!
ty for the tour def know what im doing with the plugin, very helpful!
I use Soothe 2, but honestly only the presets, as I have no idea how to use all the possibilities. Thank you for your informations.
Thanks Devvon. Blessings and love to you.
good material thank u
Listening with all attention
that was super helpful. Thank you!
adobe audition has an fft filter with several presets that resemble a static version of a few of soothe2's presets, interesting stuff, I've used audition since it was cool edit
Amazing plugin!
You are doing great
nice video, do a "how to mix bad bunny type vocals" pleeeeeeaaaseeeee, you are the only who can do it and sound good
Thank you Devvon. Could you try Focusrite Fast? Focusrite's approach strikes me as quite modern and contemporary. No more turning knobs where a beginner doesn't know why he is turning those knobs.
I literally just brought that !
So good 💯❤
I was always wondering how to use this plugin. Thanks for sharing brother.
as always fye videos Devvon
I wrote a song but the instrumental almost sounds familiar. Does anyone know how to check to that?
3:58 pause
Best Soothe Tutorial I've seen :) 🤜
I wish the Soothe2 manual explained all of the oddly named presets. It doesn’t . I even emailed the developers and they didn’t have an answer for me either. Is there anywhere that shows the practical uses for all of the presets that have weird titles ?
I’m going to be honest; eafter the representative’s explanation… it still sounds like a multi band. Felt to me as if instead of saying “bunny” he said “rabbit” - same thing to me (unless I’m missing something haha)
epic tutorial thx dude
Song is sounding dope too!
Great vid, thanks!
i guess essentially everything you see is not your vocal's spectrum but just picked out frequencies from the spectrum by a algorithm that they consider to be resonences and then they are compressed so it's a multiband with more steps but in that way less room for you to mess up
also the algorithm is probably mostly just a detector for tones in the spectrum that don't leave after how ever many seconds because a resonese is just a tone that stays too long
also that would explain why the eq graph shows drastic changes but the vocal isn't effected that drastically. because its actually just part of the spectrum picked out so you can squash them
16:04 day 106 and my brother workin out even in his tutorials 🤣❤
Lmfaoo
is it okay if i reduce the harshness of my vocal using soothe2 then use fresh air to bring back the clarity?
thank you this explained everything and I also thought it was a multi band compressor mixed with eq lol
If I don’t subscribe god won’t forgive me, you explain so clearly OMG . Thank you❤️
Thanks devon
he didn't answer your question at all. Attacking the resonances with WHAT? Processing with WHAT kind of algorithm? Is is EQ or compression?
Checkout RESO it’s actually a better version of soothe and to add on if you want a more clear explanation of what soothe is it’s called in the electrical engineering world we call it a all pass multiband adaptive band reject filter. When he mentioned there isn’t any bands that was just to simplify the explanation. To reduce the resonance you need a Q(bandwidth) and to have a bandwidth you need a band. Hopefully that clears it up a bit
It was always obvious that Soothe2 recognizes peak resonances, then uses a harmonic profile to determine which frequencies to suppress. You had an interesting question but completely failed on the follow-up. If they're not using an eq or a multi band compressor to suppress undesirable resonances, how are they doing it? Based on Oaksounds response, my number one assumption is that they're using an ai algorithm to affect the spectrum as if it's one band somehow. I'm very I retested in learning how that works.
this plugin is just like autotune, you can totally hear it when not used correctly. super easy to get yourself in trouble. thx for the video!
Can I get help
I need this tutorial because soothe never actually does what I'm trying to get it to do.
Would there be a need to use Subtractive EQ if using this? Or does it replace the need for it?
Theoretically With soothe you can Skip That step but you can also do a substractive eq and After That Last in chain use soothe to clean up the finished mix :)
Subtractive EQ is used sometimes to make space, for instance, like removing bass frequencies from a synth. Maybe you want to remove those bass frequencies to make room for a kick and bass, so Soothe 2 won't do that automatically for you. Soothe 2 would focus on resonant frequencies.
@@illestofdemall13 lesen ist wohl nicht deine stärke!
Really A+ !!!
Thanks Brudda
Any thoughts on Soothe vs Baby Audio?
Tested it against smooth operator and soothe2 sounds a hell of a lot better imo
@@chrisvanloo1007 yea I still haven’t tried soothe but I’ve noticed smooth operator alters the tone significantly just by adding it to the chain
It's basically a multi band compressor with AI 🤓
thanks
What point of the chain do you recommend using this?
love the plug-in. too much latency tho
🔥🔥🔥
FINALLY
By the way… does anyone know if this plug in will work in Reason daw???
So it’s basically a predictive multiband compressor / EQ?
Is it worth the money i have fabfilter q3 ? I want a pro sound
"Not a compressor" LOL
Kinda sorta is and isnt lol
It’s a Fast Fourier Transform.
I think it’s a little disingenuous for dude to say it’s not multiband. FFT processing is literally splitting the signal into a bunch of individual bands, and if you’re processing those separately, then it IS multiband processing. Maybe not exactly like a multiband compressor, but…
OTOH, if it’s actually FFT on the processing side (not just the analysis) then I guess you could say it’s “not multiband” because it’s actually resynthesis. :)
Which software is that?
Soothe 2 is great but it’s just so damn heavy on the cpu
I always get a bad latency when I use it.
Definitely a plugin that goes on after my recordings done!
Can't really record with in on. Latency gets pretty bad 😅
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The one thing I failed to hear in this video is what the "processing" actually is. It seems to me like it's AI dynamic EQ.
The gentlemen at the beginning literally tells you what the technology they use is called run it back!
Devon is dope.. But i wish he'll take that one ear ring out..lol
NEVER LOL
@@HelpMeDevvon hahHa. Youre still the man thou. Another great Video.
your gonna die on that hill
lmao
if you dont have ears you hear the difference lol
I wish the Soothe2 manual explained all of the oddly named presets. It doesn’t . I even emailed the developers and they didn’t have an answer for me either. Is there anywhere that shows the practical uses for all of the presets that have weird titles ?
By the way… does anyone know if this plug in will work in Reason daw???