I think this is to early to call, we went to a Monday 3:00 show thinking we'd have the theater to ourselves and it was PACKED. The movie was just epic in visuals. Those aliens looked alien, not like Star Trek who adds a bit of play-doe to faces and calls it a new race. Story was solid, easy enough to follow. "Tech-Talk" was at a minimum, no soft spots of dead air with zero going on, a constant ride of fun.
Is the whole trajectory of a film is predicted in the first weekend's sales? If the subject matter of the film is not well known, it sounds like something that would require a word of mouth growth after the first few batches of viewers saw it.
The main reason this movie flopped is because no one knew it was even out. The promo wasn't strong at all. In order for a movie to succeed at the box office, people have to know it is out. Wether its good or bad, you have to get people out to spend their money on it. They should have waited till the holidays to release it. It was visually stunning with a great storyline. I enjoyed it.
the way trailers work needs to change- spectical no longer sells movies. I canl't talk for others but i ignore all the in your face action trailers, at this point with CGI seeing a whole bunch of action does not make me want to watch a movie, however some of the funny diologe and interesting set ups would have peaked my interest.
i knew it was out but i cant stand the lead male, but have seen it anyways, i think it focus to much on wow factors and combat and to little on telling a good story, movies do seem to tend to wanna show of that they got the biggest explosions and fast combat or heavy use of CGI, for me i was let down i had hoped for a great sci-fi story that could have had multiple films following it, but right now not in a million years.
What pisses me off is that the fucking suits how run the marketing where just using raw data and what those other big movies were doing and didn't try to show that valarien was different. When I first saw the trailers I thought it was a rip off of guardians of the galaxy
Totally disagree that audiences need to already be familiar with the source material. I mean look at Guardians, very few were already familiar but it was a huge success.
And it had a better name. The first time i heard the name Valerian i thought WTF is a Valerian. Come on nearly nobody outside france ever heard of the books. I'm german and i didn't know.
@23GreyFox • there are tons of movies made from books no one has ever read or heard of, but if the movie is good then it doesn’t matter. You didn’t need to know the comics to enjoy the sci-fi space adventure that Valerian was.
Ya that's 100% true. Marvel could do no wrong at the time and I remember going to see guardians and not having any clue at all what I was about to see. I just wanted something that at least reminded me a little bit of iron Man.
The emptiness and mystery in the trailer was actually what drew me to this movie. Same with a friend of mine. I’m soooo sick of trailers spoiling the entire movie in seconds. I saw trailers for Valerian, and was like ‘I have no idea what it’s about but it looks fun. I gotta see it!’ And I wasn’t disappointed, very fun movie.
@tommy aronson Ha...ha...ha... We are different. This movie is great. If You don't like it, You are free not to. But let people like it. The movie has an amazing world to explore, and while probably many people don't feel the "chemistry" between the main characters, I did and I liked their performance. Humans are so different from eachother. It doesn't have to be "cliche" smooch smooch chemistry. I hope more going to appriciate this movie later.
@tommy aronson Nothing new? Why would it need to have any "new" to begin with? But it does have a lot of new things. A beautiful new world with interesting creatures and technology. The CGI is so good that You are being completely drawn into the story. You never doubt that the creature on screen is actually there. That's a huge thing! You just try to find flaws in a story that isn't asking for special treatment. Maybe that's the issue. So let the people who likes this movie, like it and we also let You not like it.
I just watched this movie. It was horrible and a complete waste of time. It was poorly acted, written and extremely predictable. The only positive thing i can say is the amount of CGI must have taken a large amount of time and effort. But CGI doesn’t make up for the acting or a puerile script. 1.5 stars out of 10.
I didn’t know anything about the comics and I found Valerian to be a fun, enjoyable, and entertaining movie with a good story, plot, characters, actors, and visual affects.
I already knew it was gonna flop. Unknown source material compounded with a gigantic budget, "actors" who were hired for their names instead of their skill, this movie was destined to fail. It was basically another jupiter ascending.
'Unknown source material' is a concerning statement. Basically what this says is that if its not already an established IP, there's no room for it in Hollywood...and that, my friends, means that the death of film is already well underway.
Yes. Here in France it is extremely known material, and the movie is getting disappointing reviews because of the mishmash of 3 comics into 1 film. Who told you the movie industry was going anywhere anyway?
Daka Shoes and the main leads looked and acted nothing like their comic book counterparts. not saying it has to be exact, but when you don't ensure some details are similar, you lose the fan base, which means almost all your overseas/European viewers.
I'm not sure if "gigantic budget" is really an indicator that something is going to fail. If anything it should be the opposite. Generally, a bigger budget helps the movie. Of course, a big budget it can't save it from a shit script, bad acting or uninteresting plot, but more money is never a bad thing.
I think that he means a large budget equates to a larger potential deficit. Obviously, the more money that is spent on a something, the more money you need to make in order to at least break even. Also, all these problems are listened together, because together they create the failure, not separately. So a big budget, with unknown source material, is a the main problem; a toxic combination with bad acting and writing. Finally, more money can definitely be a bad thing - hence the phrase "more money is more problems", and the plethora of lottery winners who have lost their fortunes or commit suicide.
The biggest problem with this whole movie was the dynamic between the two leading actors. If you kept the girl but had an older more established male actor you could of had The 5th Element II. With both of these young actors the movie felt like a spy kids movie in space. It just felt like underage kids pretending to be international agents.
It really put A LOT of people off the trailer. All I could think of when I saw the first trailer were: Hunger Games, Twilight, Jupiter Ascending, Divergent, etc....It's a shame how bad trailers can shut down interest in a movie.
mrjones422 nah throw the girl or throw them both. He's getting mixed reviews but almost nobody likes her. It literally kept people from seeing the movie.
I finally watched the movie for the first time today, and honestly, I don't know what everyone's being so mean about. I loved it. Dane and Cara were amazing in it. I really loved the special effects as well, probably the best I've ever seen.
I'll Redbox it, or whatever the equivalent is nowadays. Visual spectacles can hold their own on lazy evenings, but I'm not about to pay theater prices for them.
Yeah... I watched the movie. The visuals were really stunning, but I do think Cara was miscast. She was so boring to watch. There was hardly any subtlety or nuances in her acting - she's very wooden. I get she's supposed to be this badass chick, but there's no warmth to her, which makes it hard to like or connect with her character. The chemistry between the two lead characters was just barely believable, and that was entirely due to Dane DeHaan.
But she wasn't even a "badass chick". She was like an 18 year old high-school grad throwing a tantrum through most of it. I just got "immature" vibes most of the way through. And the way they portrayed her as so easily manipulated by Valarian, I thought was disturbing. He was a selfish, womanizing douchebag.
Valerian 3 day gross : $17 million www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=valerian.htm Emoji 3 day gross : $24.5 million www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=theemojimovie.htm Theory confirmed.
The acting was forced...him trying to be soooooo cool...was just...ugh....gag....the whole love interest between them was unnecessary, and probably better without it.
I agree. Haven't blamed bad acting for the failure of a film in a long time, until this. I'm a pretty easy going critic and try to enjoy things for what they are, however the two leads ruined it for me. I think both of these actors are probably great under different directors or genres, but were terribad in this movie. No question.
Actually I enjoyed the movie very much and I never followed the comic book, it was a great story that required a person to follow the story and pay attention. Unfortunately we live in a time where most people need to be spoon fed and have a lower attention rate than in the past. It was great to me and it's sad some didnt like it, I thought the main actors did a great job. Hope it did better in France than here in America. Looking forward to the sequel.
Richard Hill it did well in france, germany, russia, not so bad in china afterall (63 millions) considering the failure of star wars 8 there. It grows 226 millions dollars in the world, and will be release in japan in march, so maybe it is possible that one day there would be a sequel.
The movie failed at the United States... the United States are not the whole world even if some people think like that. This is not an Hollywood movie... Now if the movie is a commercial flop worldwide, remember the "fifth element" was also a commercial flop and it became a cult movie for science-fiction fans.
The problem is that the US is by far the most important market for Sci Fi productions. When the film has a budget of 180 million, it usually means that it needs to make minimum around 400 million for a profit. For example in France where Valerian is far more well known, it opened to around 4 million on its first day which is impressive but won't be able to compensate for lost sales in the US. The biggest markets yet to open are the U.K, South Korea, Russia, Mexico, Brazil and finally China which will be make or break for the movie. For example, in my country Australia, the movie is opening in 2 weeks but there really hasn't been a lot of marketing for a movie with such a budget. To put this into context, Valerians main competitor is Dunkirk which features an all European cast and focuses on an event that took place in France, yet the US market is still responsible for well over half of the total gross. Flopping in the US isn't a death sentence but it's certainly a warning sign.
Yeah it is based on French comic which is not well known in US (they have too many of their own comics). I have not seen the movie yet but Luc Besson is capable of making really great movies, so I plan to go. I think the trailer did not help much, it looks like Spy Kids with more CGI:) However the story seemed to go bit deeper than that, I am pretty sure the movie will be more successful after it is released on Blu-ray and DVDs. Fifth Element was one of those films I could see more times that became better when I noticed all the small details they paid attention to.
I am in Europe and so far everyone I know said "I was amazed by the visual at first, but it started to be incredibly boring after a while with main characters acting like the worst kind of annoying teenagers".
Some scenes, characters from Star Wars were based on Valerian. Remember when Han Solo was frozen? This scene came from Valerian. Remember Leias metalic bikinie? Laurine wore it first! Heck, even Valerian and Laurine are bases Han Solo and Leia!!
Yurikoya Ttarius ooooh that explains a lot actually. I've seen the movie recently and could make a lot of parallels with the Star Wars universe and sometimes cinematography
i agree, as a fan of the original comic i just did not feel the lead actor was right for the part and it focused too much on a none existent chemistry between the two. In the comic and animated series the pair clearly have some chemistry but the actors in the movie just did not.
restless rogue this movie needed lots of CGI effects. He says it took many years before the comic strip was adapted into a film due to lack of the right technology before. in other words, this movie wouldn't be possible without the best technology.
restless rogue are you talking about Dunkirk ? :') Good writing for Valerian, it's an already made story !! A French comic book... you can't re-write the story
Tess DEPRET the story doesn't need to be changed, it's more how you adapt it from book to screen, which isn't a very easy task I'll admit. The story from the book might be too long, so you have to find a way to shorten it, you may have to cut out certain parts, and the writer might want to take make their own creative changes to the script. This process isn't easy, but it's possible to make at least a decent film, and this movie unfortunately did a terrible job of adapting it
I caught this on Netflix a few days ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought the visuals and photography were great especially the opening scenes. I also loved the aliens called The Pearls, and thought if they'd had more screen time (like Avatar), the film could have had more of an impact. The two leading characters were not too bad. Cara Delevigne definitely shone in my opinion. I'd give it 3.5/5.
I am a 39 years old person and I remember, when I was young, around my 11 or 12 years old, every single person around me used to like Science Fiction, to the point that wasn't difficult at all, to find houses full of Science Fictions books, magazines and movies, that neighbors and people alike used to collect, now in this age, people find a picture of some celebrity bush more interesting than a good sci-fi movie.
Well as someone who has seen the movie, I must disagree with some of your points. Marketing the visuals was what got me to go see the movie and that was a good thing, because visuals and background world / universe are really the strong points, with story and main actors falling flat on their face. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but suffice it to say, that the main villain is unoriginal to the extrem and the heroes, Valerian in particular, are just annoying. The visuals on the other hand were so good, that it was still a decent movie overall in my book. If they had marketed the story or characters more, I might not have gone to see it, because there is nothing to market there. Visuals are the only reason to see this movie, so that is also what needs to convince you, or you might as well not go.
Saw it for the visual spectacle and a bit of hope for something like the space opera scene from the 5 element. I will probably remember some of the background characters more than the main leads. I give it a mech out of 10.
I like the actor who played Valerian (Dane DeHaan) from Chronicles, and I think he played this part very well as well. That his character was annoying, well, his personality is based on the comics'. Cara Delavigne (or however you spell it) was so out of space though. I agree on the story part, was blunt and predictable.
Obviously everyone is different, but I 100% agreed with the point about the trailers. I'm someone who does enjoy comic-based movies, but really needs to be "sold" by the trailers to actually be driven to see them. I was more bugged by the trailers I was spammed with here on youtube. They were nothing but "HEY LOOK AT HOW MUCH CGI AND ACTION SEQUENCES WE PACKED THIS MOVIE WITH". I want plot first and foremost and the trailers gave me the impression that this movie was going to be just a bunch of empty graphics (whether that was actually true or not).
This movie was great! Some of the best graphics I've seen. The main characters were a bit off putting in their acting, but I think it actually made it more interesting. Rihanna's dance scene was mesmerizing to watch! It's a shame she died because if they make a second film, she could've had a bigger role which I think would have drawn in more fans. Anybody who says this movie wasn't good, is not a true fan of Sci-Fi!!!
An independently financed French film, albeit the most expensive French film of all time, would have an impossible time prying Pratt from his Disney contract and Gadot from her Warners one. Pratt was the fat guy from Parks & Rec and Gadot was a former model and Miss Israel without many more credits than Delevingne before they blew up in their superhero roles. Also, don't forget Passengers starring Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence had a $14 mil opening weekend.
hmm, Dane DeHaan is my favorite young actor. I see great potential in him. Too bad his movies weren't a hit. But look at Chronicle that was good acting and the movie was very good. But his best acting comes from The Place Beyond the Pines, one of my favorite movies in recent years. And he even did a good job in spider-man, but again the movie itself was very bad. so it didn't help.
My thoughts exactly. Yeah, they aren't just likable from the first sight....Jupiter Ascending actors were much more likeable and I could enjoy looking at them. Dane looks like he's constantly having a hangover and he's not that handsome nor looking fit... and the girl is not my type, if I dated girls :}
Well i dont mind new actors being a new film but they have to execute their actings and roles more dynamically but i never seen the film itself. I can tell by how they talk that it would be dull as crap with how they are performing it.
Agreed they are good actors just put in the wrong rolls. It looks like two sixteen year olds trying to save the universe. if I'm spending $17 its not going to be on this movie.
The fact they used Rihanna and that model in the trailer was a sign for me it used star power (which aren't actors, using famous actors for star power is different, because they are famoud because they are good actors) to cover potential lack of good content. Plus the 0 advertisment didn't help either
IKEA 2 hard 4 fresco I don't think Cara and Rihanna are bad actresses, I liked how they developed their characters although I wished they had explained more the origins from the main characters. It kinda remind me to star wars in a good way.
I love this movie. I've watched it a few times over the last couple of years. It's amazing and Rhi Rhi's part was awesome. The actors were great and the graphics were outstanding.
my boyfriend and I were the only one in the theatre watching that one. it was a real long movie and we were the last ones out and the place was closing. but I really liked it despite not knowing anything about it. my boyfriend said it had strong mass effect feel to it and thats why he picked it. it wasn't that bad and rhiana being put into it confused us both 😂😂 I wanted to see the war ape movie or baby driver but since I was dragging him to the mall next Tuesday I let him choose.
+Laura I'm not your boyfriend. we never went to a theater. please stop calling me that. we have a restraining order. we are over. please leave me alone. I know it's you that keeps sneaking into my house to organize my stuff. please stop. it's really creepy.
domesticV1190XxOo because there was no real significance for her to be there. the whole film had like b list and lower celebrities and than theres rhi. she just stuck out like a sore thumb is all
You can't have a kid who looks like he's 15 acting like the old and tired badass who's seen too much, fought too many battles, and loved too many women. "A soldier" who's the best of the best? The script sounds like it was written for Korben Dallas (or Bruce Willis...or John McLane). This needed a tough guy 'take no shit actor' like Gerard Butler, Dwayne Johnson, Samuel L. Jackson - or on the cheap, literally ANY actor over 40 who could pull off a badass. But no. They cast some 18(?) year old who looks like he belongs in Spy Kids and my suspension of disbelief is out the window.
Exactly what I thought. having a boy-man barely out of teenagehood with 9 years military experience, a shitload of medals and having slept with a full wall of girlies? GTFO...
I liked the movie too. But mostly for visuals. The story is not that good, at least if you have no comic background. Lead couple... well, not exactly the stars. Acting is ok, but not beyond that.
I watched the movie. Wasn't that bad. The story was solid, I particularly liked the pearl species and their part in the movie, and even the rest of the military were solid roles even if the bad guy's performance was a little cringy. The main actor was my main issue to be honest. He just didn't match the character at all. He was like a teenager, but Valerian is supposed to be a soldier, and most importantly a likeable guy, and his performance made him annoying, unprofesional and sloppy at his job. Even Kara who is not a magnificent actor did better than him, but she was given really weird scenes when one moment she is badass and cool and the next she is just a useless girl that has to be rescued or just be there for a bad joke. Overall the movie is not bad, but not great either.
You know, i think the exact same thing about the Fifth element every time I see it. There are so many cringy moments, and the romance was absolutely bad, but I love watching it for kicks, and everyone praises it. I'm going to see this movie because the scifi fan in me can't deny this movie looks dope.
Asha Nimo I didn't say he *looked* like a teenager didn't I? No, I didn't. I said he "was like a teenager," implying similarity. It doesn't matter how old the actor is, his behavior was one of a teenage boy, that's what I meant. And, ok, maybe teenagers can be soldiers (great nations with millions of millions of people, aliens and money obviously have to use teenagers as soldiers. They are obviously the best option. Who needs experience and maturity? Pff it's not like the only nations using child soldiers are the ones that actually lack people to be soldiers...), but rationally speaking, the whole world they portrayed in the movie is not supposed to be ok with young soldiers. Moreover, he is supposed to be a Mayor, that's a pretty high rank that demands professionalism, seriousness and overall experience. That's why he doesn't work for the roll. He is careless, unprofessional, he doesn't follow orders and he put's his crew at risk. Also, I still think he was unlikeble as a character. So there's that. Ps: your two comments contradicted each other. Either you didn't see him as a teenager, but a mature soldier, or you saw him as a teenager soldier and you are ok with that. So you are arguing for nothing...
Knew it was going to flop from the first trailer. It looked like a movie that audiences wouldn't of been able to connect with. It's a shame because it looks good and I'm going to see it when it comes out in the UK.
I actually enjoyed it. Gives a really good break from the stress of working because it wasn't too overdone and it met my expectation of a casual movie.
Finally someone who understands that this movie was meant to just enjoy the pretty faces and the sparkles. The movie's visuals is a 10/10, and if you take it for what you expect it to be, you can enjoy it, even with the very sub par acting.
I think it's deeply unfair to say that "unfamiliarity with the source material" is a reason for it flopping. That can be said of any original concept or any lesser-known work of fiction, and familiarity hasn't guaranteed recent Star Wars films like "Solo" from flopping.
FUZIØNTM uhh no this video probably has more views than valerian did. And while it made 17 million it cost 108 million, which actually lost the studio 91 million dollars whereas this video will probably make a few thousand. Maybe if you actually paid attention to the video you'd stop making such inane comments on the internet. I really hope you'll refrain from making such deluded questions because none of us have the time for stupidity.
Some storyline wasn't that interesting for me but Valerian was a decent movie, nice atmosphere beautiful leading girl, some interesting scenes and fantasy sci fi adventure is a good combo. I'd switch out the main male hero Valerian with someone else though he wasn't interesting at all. It felt like he was supposed to be one of those cool player jock types, but he didn't look like one or made me feel like he was one, he just pretended to be serious and cool with a few jokes here n there. Didn't make the audience feel like he was worthy of the girl at all. He just looks and sounds like a perv to me.
Agreed, the lead was all wrong in the casting. “James Bond in space” played by a 15 year old sk8tr boi lookin scrawny nobody just kills any immersion the movie might have had with the right actor in place.
Thought the same thing. I liked the movie, but I didn't think that guy's character was a good fit. Maybe if he approached it differently, the actor could have come off better.
I'm from Italy, I don't know how it's going in our country (it's out now) but my parents wanted to see it (my father likes this kind of space movies). I've never heard about the comic but I loved the movie, despite a couple of plot holes. The graphic and design was perfect and I've found the acting very well done. I've also liked that the trailer didn't spoilered the main story like it happens nowdays.
i knowed the comics but ... i never realy liked the paint style of them and most of the storys were very childisch, but i realy like the movie, its so sad they dint do any promo in germany bevore the movie was into the cinemas... no wounder the people didnt come to see it, as the trailers started the time of the movie in the cinemas was allready over... its like someone wanted it to go bad...
I think they went too young with the 2 main roles. They look like they're in their twenties, not someone you would look to to save your ass. Kinda reminded me of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in that way.
Me and my brother saw only the poster (JUST the poster!) and thought, damn what is this, edgy kids in space? Won't watch. This vid is actually the first time I saw a clip of it and hey the special effects look cool! But the actors still don't capture my interest.
That's because Valerian is supposed to be in his rather late 30s when the plot of the movie happens, while Laureline is in her mid 20s... those that don't know the comics don't know the backstory to those two (some years before the movie, Valérian - aleady an established time-space agent at the time - decided to bring her back to the 28th century after a mission he did in the France of the year 1000, when she was 16. He used advanced memory implants to put her up to date with his modern world, and she was then integrated in the Service as his underling).
yeah you hit the nail on the head...I saw it was suppose to be like 5th element but the plot was so generic.....and then there were some super plot holes like : SPOILER: the converter somehow survived the planet being destroyed and the aliens surviving on half of a human spaceship in space after the planet was blown away.....then don't let me go any further with further WTF.....but yeah graphics and characters were great
It's not one of the converters that was on the planet when it was destroyed. They were obviously known throughout the galaxy even though they were ultra rare and all records of their homeworld has been errased.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise It looked like Avatar in the trailers at some point and it now shares Avatar's faults. Visuals over story(though Avatar's characters were also a bit meh).
The male lead also lacked any charisma at all. Sound design was off the entire movie too. There were moments of silence where there should've been music and the music they used didn't even fit the scene.
Maybe it's just me, but I think that a big reason Valerian flopped was because of Cara. I think that she is a somewhat capable actor, however I think she's just so incredibly dry. Her emotions seem...basic. Boring. She never conveys more than she has to, making it hard for the audience to connect to her and for her to have chemistry with her fellow actors. With a movie that seemed to depend on her stardom to gain a better following, just seeing her in every single trailer told me that this was going to be almost monotonous and uninteresting. In reality, aside from the two lead actors, the film was alright, and especially visually stunning. However, it was clearly mis-cast. Using such unfit actors in so much advertising was likely a big reason why the movie failed.
lol "Maybe it's just me" The new "no offense" Always followed by a lengthy explanation that tries to push it off on "Audiences" Grown a pair of balls and say "I hate that bitch" which is exactly what you want to say, but pussyfooted around it for a whole god damn story about how you like her but everything she does is all wrong for the "Audience" Take the heat of your own shit you bitch.
TheDerpyDolphin she would play a good badass in a movie, you know, that nonchalant chick in sci fi movies that always kicks ass, like seline from resident evil
I genuinely loved this movie and after the fifth element in his back catalogue alone I was guaranteed to put my cash up for tickets. My son loved it too. I even got the blu ray and I genuinely feel it was a refreshing movie among all the superhero flicks and remakes of that summer. I was really hopeful it would do well as it was originally going to be a trilogy or more, hopefully Mr Besson gets back to it at some point as I'd love to see how it continues and ends properly and I know my son would be up for it too. I love Bessons work in general but I wouldn't say I'm a fanboy as such, hes just a really bloomin good film maker and I respect the guy. P.s. The visuals in this movie are amazing and Herbie Hancock is in it too yay lol.
Thank you. I did not know the director did Leon 5th Element and this. That is aweaome. I'm a huge movie fan (well I thought I was before this lol) and collect posters and want to get some real props but can't afford them. I almost got a brick of blue dream from Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man! Seriously you know you're stuff. We're not worthy!
Btw I really liked and hate Ethen Hawks character. I know time period would be wrong but an Easter egg related to Explorers would have been phenomenally cool
I personally just want to see actual actors. Cara Delevingne became a model because of her numerous connections, that she was born with, to the industry. Now she's become an actress because "hey, she's famous, so why not?"
jonathan wakefield Privileged Brits?!!! More like Privileged English! (Eddie Redmayne, Simon Pegg, John Boyega, Sophie Turner, Ricky Gervais are among others, Bang average at best!!!)...The Welsh don't get anywhere near the credit their actors deserve. (Iwan Rheon as Ramsey in Game of Thrones and Matthew Rhys in The Americans...say no more). You shouldn't use the term British when it includes people from multiple different cultures...English!, Welsh!, And Scottish!
Nada Barton very true. Really it comes down to a lack of characters from those countries, in my opinion. I'm Irish and I have no words to describe how pissed off i was that in Calvary, a fantastic Irish film, they gave Brendan Gleeson's daughter an English accent so they could cast an English actor.
Sorry, Linda. I don't have a rich father who can use his influence or buy my way into a modelling career or movie career. Nor do I have a vagina that I can use to get me roles.
Jupiter Ascending was not only the Worst Sci-Fi Movie I have seen up to now, but probably in the top 5 worst movies I have ever seen. I can't remember the other 4.
I have to confess, I loved the adds for Dunkirk with Cillian Murphy saying "I'm not going back, I'm not going back!, Turn around..." every time I saw it, I was like OMG I have to see what happens to this man...like the fear and emotion was relatable. For Valerian, I was like Uhhh I'll what for it to come out on demand.
Rosemary Williams yeaaaaaaaah and when you finally see the film, his dumbass character does nothing but killing an innocent youngster... wow, fucking trailers ! Dunkerque was a really good movie, but, fuck, valerian is also an awesome one... at least for the universe. Still prefer Dunkerque though
He's had plenty of 'flops', his investors don't seem to care. Whether or not people agree with his vision and/or execution, he does it for the joy first and the profit second. I admire that in him.
Yes you hit the nail on the head. The trailer didn't even have Rihanna which would have drawn so many young people to the see the movie. Also the trailer did not explain what the movie was about I'm so confused until today like what's the point of this mission?
Millicent Lopez I saw the trailer in the cinema, never heard of the comic, the impression I got was that they were relying on effects and cgi rather than plot
If you go the bright CG route, you need something campy like a baby tree dancing to *Mr Blue Sky* or you have to go full on Douglas Adams. The trailer told me that the movie would be stupid and forgettable.
Actually the trailer did have Rihanna. That's one of the reasons why I said I could never watch it. That and I went to Dunkirk instead, which was way better.
but that doesn't matter, nobody heard of guardians of the galaxy or fucking TAKEN but they still made money and were hits, wanna know why? because they were good movies.
What? Everyone knew about Guardians of the Galaxy and Taken. It was marketed everywhere, they had AMA's. Guardian of the Galaxy had a huge fanbase and not only that it but it was extremely hyped up, and everywhere you went you saw a trailer for this movie. Not only that but it was produced by fucking Marvel. You are an idiot who thinks Guardian of the Galaxy or Taken who is starred by Liam fucking Neeson is unknown.
Movie is great. Fresh, dynamic, fun, just cool action/sci-fi blend, stunning visual effects and entire vision is just nice. But same as others wrote ... i got to cinema by accident and did not see single adv of it before.
I was interested when seeing the trailers, but was turned off once I saw Cara. Maybe casting directors will finally have some sense slapped into them. the audience doesn't care about names,we want to see talent.
Go See THE LIVE. We Sleep. The Title and entire story is way more META MEME than you realise. ( SciFi is the dream used to blind and bind the general public while the elite rob the world. )
The movie was great, the only place I came across it was flying on an international flight, browsing through all of the off color movies I hadn't even heard about much in my home-state of Utah.... Kind of glad actually, I hate being bombarded by people throwing money at me forcing me to look at what they want me to see, my encounter with the film came about fairly naturally, only really hearing about it 1 or 2 times before actually watching it...
+ZeAlphaWolf I almost misread. I thought you had said "They should have" instead of shouldn't have. IDK, It has nothing to do with her being a model or anything, but one thing for sure is she cannot act. Some of her line deliveries were so stiff it was cringeworthy.
anxez, I have to agree. I was surprised that Cara's Laureline was maybe the best part of the movie and almost the only character with a soul in it. In the movie she was the one who actually expressed emotion where as DeHaan's Valerian came of as a smug bore. The reviews speak of the leads not having chemistry on-screen and while Cara may not be the best actress in the world or even anywhere close to that, it wasn't her fault that the chemistry wasn't there. I put most of the blame on DeHaan who I felt was terribly miscast as Valerian to begin with. He has too much of a baby face to be "a major" in any army or anything. It felt like Laureline was thrown together with Valerian Jr. or something.
First of all try to have some culture. Valerian it's not an Hollywood movie it's an European movie made by "EuropaCorp" a society from France. You want to know why this movie didn't work at the box office??? It's just because of that not an Hollywood movie. You speak about the cast etc etc. Matt Damon in "The Great Wall" a commercial flop... it was a Chinese movie. I'm sure Valerian will have success sooner or later...
That picture of her with a shaved head, YIKES! She looks like a damn alien that could have been in the movie. Some women need their hair badly! It did made me feel better about my diminishing looks though, maybe I can model too if she can pull it off.
yeah, from the trailers I couldn't tell whether they were siblings or love interests and I just didn't care. they looked like such an odd pair (which was perhaps the point). they def relied on style > content for the trailers. but without context/content I didn't care about delving into their universe. Even if "unique", it seemed like a stupid universe since the trailers couldn't even tell me what went on there.
I love that movie and already watch it several times.. Love the story and the acting from everyone...to be honest ,Besson never fail with his creations!
Yeah, isn't that what it's called? Maybe they shortened it. That would be a good idea . . . to shorten such a long name. I wonder what the website name is.
No, it's called "Velerian and the City of a Thousand Planets" . . . ridiculous name, so nobody could relate, so nobody went to see it. It gets 6.9 out of 10 at IMDB though, so it couldn't be THAT bad. I think it flopped because of the marketing . . . or lack of marketing.
He's 30 and he just had a baby lol. I haven't watched the movie yet and as a fan of him, I must admit I'm quiet surprised for him to play a superhero movie, as the superhero, he's freakin awkward but he's cute tho.
I agree I love sci fi and as soon as I saw appeared to be teens to save universe then not happening Sometimes young look sucks and in this case it did Dude might be 30 but still looks 14
One reason it flopped is because there was no message behind it. I've seen countless advertisements but, I couldn't tell you one thing about it other than there is supposedly 1,000 cities. The marketing team flopped big time.
I hadn't heard anything about this movie before I took my fiance on a date night to the movies. So we watched this and we were thrilled. It is such a good movie and a shame that no one else wanted to see it
It's a cool movie, based on a French Space Opera from 1969 (my very young youth and I loved it). At least for the visuals and complexity of the canvas it's worth it. It would make for a good Space Opera RPG Video Game.
Because they spent $200 million on a movie staring teens and Rianna? Do you think Sharkboy and Lavagirl would have been a great movie if they had only thrown another couple hundred million at it?
McFunnyPantz I currently want to see Valerian but each time I see those two actors looking and acting like angsty-teenagers on screen I question whether I really want to spend the 11 dollars required to watch that. The aliens all look pretty disturbing but the visuals look great. Artistic wise, creature designs can either be relate-able (and lovable) or they can be edgy (and forgettable) but never both. So I'm not sure I want to see a movie with angsty teen heroes and forgettable aliens that all resemble an old man's left testicle after it's been beaten with a hammer. Okay so I'm a critic, but... I'm still open to being convinced to see the movie. What are your favorite aspects of the movie?
They didn't have a big distributor like Disney and Warner bros. marketing it. I don't think I ever saw any advertising for it. It's a shame because it really is a good film.
It flopped because Dane Whateverhisnameis is a horrible, creepy looking actor. He can't carry a movie. He can look creepy, that's about it. That doesn't go very far.
zXMARINEXz q Glad to hear you feel the same. Many of my friends also are super creeped out by him. He's not a leading man. Maybe in horror he could be, but even in The Cure For Wellness, the weakest part of the film was his acting (and that's saying a lot given the ridiculous plot).
I liked Valerien. It had a unique storyline. I really appreciated that the movie didn't focus on the romance, but rather on the struggle of a species to regain their home. Valerian was a refreshing treat from the rinse and repeat action flicks that just keep coming out.
Grant Wallace nah man think about it....when the action got going there wasn't any time for the lovey dovey stuff... just pure save the creature save the guy save the girl then save the world. ... then then save the relationship.
Really sad to hear that it flopped like that. For me it was one on the greatest and freshest movie i have seen in a long time. I loved the pacing. There was not a single boring moment in which nothing happend. The Style is great. There are so many details in this Universe. I also down't know the comic, which didn't hinder my experience with the movie at all.
I didn't want to go to the toilet the whole way through because I was worried I'd miss something cool. It was consistently inventive and visually stunning. The film has had a weird inception effect on me, I keep thinking about sequences and visuals over and over. Now I have an itch to see it again.
Lots of stuff happened, but nothing really happened. A jellyfish that can kinda see the future or whatever of a person... what? Spend 10 minutes looking at a dancer when your partner is hostage... what? The dancer dying after 10 minutes and we are supposed to care... what? Killing random primitive aliens, especially the fisherman who was trying to feed his kids... what? How much is 100Kajjigger? Is it a lot? It sounded a lot... what? Acting lol... what? Magically tie up the General when the ship leaves... what? Most of these were visually stunning, but they were empty as fuck. Only good part was the first 5-10 minutes where they introduced all the different aliens.
it seemed rather hollow and disjointed. I think it would have made an excellent tv series. Give them time to flesh out the universe and characters more.
Don't count Valerian out, yet, Looper Viewers. I saw it today in spite of Looper's comments. I have never seen a Valerian graphic story; so, the characters were completely unknown to me. I thought the characters were well developed, interesting and engaging. V and L were believable heroes and believable romantic interests. Clive Owen was a believable villain. Ethan Hawke was a believable nightclub-owning lowlife. And Rihanna...Rihanna was believably the greatest performing artist in The Universe! The action was fast-paced. I was never bored (not true for me in Spider-Man). The visuals were SUPERB. I would give it four stars and a heartfelt recommendation. I think you'll be very pleased you saw it.
Try reading the comics. The movie just shows many races as a cameo, while all of them have roles in the books, one at a time. You will enjoy recognizing what each one is, its history and customs. And also why the Shingouz act like they do.
I saw both Valerian and Dunkirk on opening day. Although both movies are great in their own way, I enjoyed Valerian waay more and didn't mind paying full price for it and its one of the only movies I would pay to see again in 3D.
Rihanna is nothing more than a lip synching stripper. She doesn't write her own songs. She doesn't play any instruments. She just strips down naked on a stage and gyrates while pretending to sing.
Ok. I now why: -Use a singer as an actress. -Use a model as an actress. -Try to make a sci-fi but it looks like a young-adult film like mazerunner or hunger games. -Dunkirk -Homecoming
Yeah I was in theaters a week before Valerian was going to release and thought about going to see it later but Homecoming was SOOOOOO good. Made my standards too high Lol
For me it was Cara and the lack of story telling. The trailers it just looked like a movie with pretty effects which didn't do much for me. It was so hard to even catch up with the trailers at times. Plus every time it came on my TV there was only a sentence said. With Cara I still see her as a model her acting doesn't impress me. I don't feel like she becomes a character. When I see her in these trailers I don't feel like I'm experiencing anything new. It looks like a movie with a model as the lead role. I love Nicki Minaj but Cara in these movies is the equivalent of Nicki's cameos.
sweetxjc yup. When I saw cara it gave me a headache. She's just not interesting or a good actress. She looks like every other white skinny model. Shes like Kiersten Stewart. No one likes seeing her on screen.
I finally got around to watching it ... and was blown away!!! Admittedly I had very low expectations, so the first ten minutes I could hardly catch my breath, freakin amazing! It is ridiculous that everybody is talking this movie down! As a conspiracy-lover I also feel inclined to believe that maybe Hollywood - critics, studios, trade mags and all - didn't want to give France the chance to shine, since the movie was produced in brand new studios near Paris.
Yeah, that and John Carter of Mars are what inspired George Lucas to create Star Wars. Funny how both movies ended up “failures” where Star Wars was successful. Emphasis on was.
I was talked into going to see this movie, and I regret it. Valerian failed because the central love story could be out-performed by middle schoolers. The guy likes the girl from the start in a way that seems boring and empty, and she isn't at all interested (for obvious reasons). Then, by the end, with no character growth whatsoever, they're making out in a space capsule. Both characters are as one-dimensional and flat as in the beginning. Nothing changed. The story was okay and special effects were cool, but the characters were the worst I've seen in theaters. Sorry about the rant, but this movie kind of sucked.
I live in the UE and I think outside France no body recognizes Valerian comics. There are also more promising movies right now: Atomic Blonde, Baby Driver, Dark Tower and Spiderman. So your comment is terribly accurate!
Dark tower, by all accounts it is going to be a massive flop. It looks terrible. Valerian is great. Baby driver was okay. Spiderman is a teen flick. Atom blondie is out next week. It looks ok.
Just seen it! I don't agree in many points, I liked it for its magnificent visual effects as wonderful as Avatar . I found the plot interesting and well paced , better than Avatar that in the end , was the usual story of kind of Indians and cowboys.... The two main actors were also good and who said that two not very famous actors cannot be good in their roles only because they're not blockbusters' names??They were convincing IMO... Finally : it was worth seeing !! Thumbs up!!!
The market has been drenched recently with young adult novel-movie adaptations like Divergent or Maze Runner whose characters are unrelatable and whose plots are intelligence-insulting. Valerian may be nothing like those movies but when people see these really young actors playing roles better suited for people in their 30s or 40s... that's what they associate it with. People are tired of it.
It's not a matter of the comic not being popular...you know how many went to see doctor strange and guardians without ever knowing who they were? The movies simply appealed to a broader audience.
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I think this is to early to call, we went to a Monday 3:00 show thinking we'd have the theater to ourselves and it was PACKED.
The movie was just epic in visuals. Those aliens looked alien, not like Star Trek who adds a bit of play-doe to faces and calls it a new race. Story was solid, easy enough to follow. "Tech-Talk" was at a minimum, no soft spots of dead air with zero going on, a constant ride of fun.
Looper I thought the production budget for Valerian was 209 million
Is the whole trajectory of a film is predicted in the first weekend's sales? If the subject matter of the film is not well known, it sounds like something that would require a word of mouth growth after the first few batches of viewers saw it.
Lewis Doherty yeah it does
The main reason this movie flopped is because no one knew it was even out. The promo wasn't strong at all. In order for a movie to succeed at the box office, people have to know it is out. Wether its good or bad, you have to get people out to spend their money on it.
They should have waited till the holidays to release it. It was visually stunning with a great storyline. I enjoyed it.
Hold on its out already?
Damn i missed it
the way trailers work needs to change- spectical no longer sells movies. I canl't talk for others but i ignore all the in your face action trailers, at this point with CGI seeing a whole bunch of action does not make me want to watch a movie, however some of the funny diologe and interesting set ups would have peaked my interest.
i knew it was out but i cant stand the lead male, but have seen it anyways, i think it focus to much on wow factors and combat and to little on telling a good story, movies do seem to tend to wanna show of that they got the biggest explosions and fast combat or heavy use of CGI, for me i was let down i had hoped for a great sci-fi story that could have had multiple films following it, but right now not in a million years.
What pisses me off is that the fucking suits how run the marketing where just using raw data and what those other big movies were doing and didn't try to show that valarien was different. When I first saw the trailers I thought it was a rip off of guardians of the galaxy
This would have been great counterprogramming to Star Wars, but muricans are too poor to watch two movies in one week.
Totally disagree that audiences need to already be familiar with the source material. I mean look at Guardians, very few were already familiar but it was a huge success.
That is because it had great dialog, a interesting story, and good acting. Valerian was all visual with 0 substance, also boring.
And it had a better name. The first time i heard the name Valerian i thought WTF is a Valerian. Come on nearly nobody outside france ever heard of the books. I'm german and i didn't know.
@Ben Willard • it was not boring and had more substance than a lot of sci-fi movies
@23GreyFox • there are tons of movies made from books no one has ever read or heard of, but if the movie is good then it doesn’t matter. You didn’t need to know the comics to enjoy the sci-fi space adventure that Valerian was.
Ya that's 100% true. Marvel could do no wrong at the time and I remember going to see guardians and not having any clue at all what I was about to see. I just wanted something that at least reminded me a little bit of iron Man.
The emptiness and mystery in the trailer was actually what drew me to this movie. Same with a friend of mine. I’m soooo sick of trailers spoiling the entire movie in seconds. I saw trailers for Valerian, and was like ‘I have no idea what it’s about but it looks fun. I gotta see it!’ And I wasn’t disappointed, very fun movie.
Stop bullshitting yourself ! This movie is a garbage
I'm just here to mention how much I like this movie.
I liked it too!
@tommy aronson Ha...ha...ha... We are different. This movie is great. If You don't like it, You are free not to. But let people like it. The movie has an amazing world to explore, and while probably many people don't feel the "chemistry" between the main characters, I did and I liked their performance. Humans are so different from eachother. It doesn't have to be "cliche" smooch smooch chemistry. I hope more going to appriciate this movie later.
@tommy aronson Nothing new? Why would it need to have any "new" to begin with? But it does have a lot of new things. A beautiful new world with interesting creatures and technology. The CGI is so good that You are being completely drawn into the story. You never doubt that the creature on screen is actually there. That's a huge thing! You just try to find flaws in a story that isn't asking for special treatment. Maybe that's the issue. So let the people who likes this movie, like it and we also let You not like it.
i enjoyed this movie from the begining to the end ..and the opening scene is now one of my favorite moments in move history
I just watched this movie. It was horrible and a complete waste of time. It was poorly acted, written and extremely predictable. The only positive thing i can say is the amount of CGI must have taken a large amount of time and effort. But CGI doesn’t make up for the acting or a puerile script.
1.5 stars out of 10.
Main reasons
1. Poor marketing
2. Lead actors/poor acting
3. Timing of release
4. Boring?
5.Bad Script.
6. Horrible Plot
7. Lead actors look like edgy cocaine addicts.
Rihanna slayed though
8: A shitty mix between Star Wars amd Guardians of the Galaxy
I loved it, because it was different from the same movies they make over and over again. 💁🏻
I didn't love it, but I agree that its uniqueness from the dominating brands was a virtue.
How did you watch
FR and the visuals is amazing
I loved this movie
It was great but I didn't knew about it when it was in theater
I watched this movie in 2018
It was a great experience
I didn’t know anything about the comics and I found Valerian to be a fun, enjoyable, and entertaining movie with a good story, plot, characters, actors, and visual affects.
Omg THANK YOU.
I WATCHED IT 3 TIMES ON NETFLIX.
ABSOLUTELY LOOOOVED LOOOOOVED IT 🙌🏾🥰
I already knew it was gonna flop. Unknown source material compounded with a gigantic budget, "actors" who were hired for their names instead of their skill, this movie was destined to fail. It was basically another jupiter ascending.
'Unknown source material' is a concerning statement. Basically what this says is that if its not already an established IP, there's no room for it in Hollywood...and that, my friends, means that the death of film is already well underway.
Yes. Here in France it is extremely known material, and the movie is getting disappointing reviews because of the mishmash of 3 comics into 1 film.
Who told you the movie industry was going anywhere anyway?
Daka Shoes and the main leads looked and acted nothing like their comic book counterparts. not saying it has to be exact, but when you don't ensure some details are similar, you lose the fan base, which means almost all your overseas/European viewers.
I'm not sure if "gigantic budget" is really an indicator that something is going to fail. If anything it should be the opposite.
Generally, a bigger budget helps the movie.
Of course, a big budget it can't save it from a shit script, bad acting or uninteresting plot, but more money is never a bad thing.
I think that he means a large budget equates to a larger potential deficit. Obviously, the more money that is spent on a something, the more money you need to make in order to at least break even. Also, all these problems are listened together, because together they create the failure, not separately. So a big budget, with unknown source material, is a the main problem; a toxic combination with bad acting and writing.
Finally, more money can definitely be a bad thing - hence the phrase "more money is more problems", and the plethora of lottery winners who have lost their fortunes or commit suicide.
The biggest problem with this whole movie was the dynamic between the two leading actors. If you kept the girl but had an older more established male actor you could of had The 5th Element II.
With both of these young actors the movie felt like a spy kids movie in space. It just felt like underage kids pretending to be international agents.
mrjones422 Put the Rock on it lol just kidding :D
It really put A LOT of people off the trailer. All I could think of when I saw the first trailer were: Hunger Games, Twilight, Jupiter Ascending, Divergent, etc....It's a shame how bad trailers can shut down interest in a movie.
The original comic strip was about a dude, they tried to make it about some stupid cunt.
They tanked their own film in favor of politics.
mrjones422 Trying to shove a love story between two people with no chemistry ruined it for me. But it was pretty.
mrjones422 nah throw the girl or throw them both. He's getting mixed reviews but almost nobody likes her. It literally kept people from seeing the movie.
Reading the comments, I had no idea who this Cara actress was that everybody complained about until someone called her "eyebrow girl".
u mean the tagerian girl ?
do you notice that for your profile pic you could be the "eyebrow guy with Hitlers hairstyle"?
I finally watched the movie for the first time today, and honestly, I don't know what everyone's being so mean about. I loved it. Dane and Cara were amazing in it. I really loved the special effects as well, probably the best I've ever seen.
Yes..Same thought for me
It was dumb
are you 10 or something?
Wait, you *actually* thought the leads were good?
Honestly, recasting them would've made the movie more watchable
Yeah, to me it was a fun weird sci-fi movie with amazing visuals.
I think its just lack of advertising. Have just heard about this movie.
ya honestly i just saw a commercial for it like a day before it came out i didnt even know it was out
Nedks 11 You're joking. This movie was advertised to me a HUNDRED times.
good for you, it sucked
I saw the trailer once and only once at the Guardians of the Galaxy2 premiere after that I never heard anything again
More people probably watched this video than went to see the movie
Kyle Jewell sad, but true...
Kyle Jewell
I'm one of them.
I'll Redbox it, or whatever the equivalent is nowadays. Visual spectacles can hold their own on lazy evenings, but I'm not about to pay theater prices for them.
Nice lol
I've never heard of this movie haha
Yeah... I watched the movie. The visuals were really stunning, but I do think Cara was miscast. She was so boring to watch. There was hardly any subtlety or nuances in her acting - she's very wooden. I get she's supposed to be this badass chick, but there's no warmth to her, which makes it hard to like or connect with her character. The chemistry between the two lead characters was just barely believable, and that was entirely due to Dane DeHaan.
But she wasn't even a "badass chick". She was like an 18 year old high-school grad throwing a tantrum through most of it. I just got "immature" vibes most of the way through. And the way they portrayed her as so easily manipulated by Valarian, I thought was disturbing. He was a selfish, womanizing douchebag.
A shame, I really loved this movie and the world it was set in.
WRONG, it obviously because they came out near release of the greatest movie ever , The Emoji Movie. Basic Mistake
Valerian 3 day gross : $17 million www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=valerian.htm
Emoji 3 day gross : $24.5 million www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=theemojimovie.htm
Theory confirmed.
Recheck. Denied!
Fam Squad here ?
Just goes to show how fucking stupid people are, especially dipshit millennials and their meme mentalities. Haha
David Arbogast You're not funny.
I haven't seen a single ad about the movie and this is the first time I'm actually hearing about the movie
Sierra Rambles A Lot Really? Weird.. they advertised the shit out of this movie. Even gave rihanna a part while doing so.. what a waste of money.
Same
Sierra Rambles A Lot iv seen like 2 thats it....
Sierra Rambles A Lot yh i only found about this movie now
Honestly Same, where did this movie come from D: ?????
The acting was forced...him trying to be soooooo cool...was just...ugh....gag....the whole love interest between them was unnecessary, and probably better without it.
I disagree
It is based of a comic, they couldn't just change that
Agreed, actually left the theater after about half an hour because the acting had me rolling my eyes into the back of my head.
I agree. Haven't blamed bad acting for the failure of a film in a long time, until this. I'm a pretty easy going critic and try to enjoy things for what they are, however the two leads ruined it for me. I think both of these actors are probably great under different directors or genres, but were terribad in this movie. No question.
I wouldn't say so, there were just bad leads.
Actually I enjoyed the movie very much and I never followed the comic book, it was a great story that required a person to follow the story and pay attention. Unfortunately we live in a time where most people need to be spoon fed and have a lower attention rate than in the past. It was great to me and it's sad some didnt like it, I thought the main actors did a great job. Hope it did better in France than here in America. Looking forward to the sequel.
Richard Hill it did well in france, germany, russia, not so bad in china afterall (63 millions) considering the failure of star wars 8 there. It grows 226 millions dollars in the world, and will be release in japan in march, so maybe it is possible that one day there would be a sequel.
this comment is basically " 90's music is better" but for movies.
So what now? We all going to live happily ever after?
The movie failed at the United States... the United States are not the whole world even if some people think like that. This is not an Hollywood movie...
Now if the movie is a commercial flop worldwide, remember the "fifth element" was also a commercial flop and it became a cult movie for science-fiction fans.
The problem is that the US is by far the most important market for Sci Fi productions. When the film has a budget of 180 million, it usually means that it needs to make minimum around 400 million for a profit. For example in France where Valerian is far more well known, it opened to around 4 million on its first day which is impressive but won't be able to compensate for lost sales in the US. The biggest markets yet to open are the U.K, South Korea, Russia, Mexico, Brazil and finally China which will be make or break for the movie. For example, in my country Australia, the movie is opening in 2 weeks but there really hasn't been a lot of marketing for a movie with such a budget. To put this into context, Valerians main competitor is Dunkirk which features an all European cast and focuses on an event that took place in France, yet the US market is still responsible for well over half of the total gross. Flopping in the US isn't a death sentence but it's certainly a warning sign.
Yeah it is based on French comic which is not well known in US (they have too many of their own comics). I have not seen the movie yet but Luc Besson is capable of making really great movies, so I plan to go. I think the trailer did not help much, it looks like Spy Kids with more CGI:) However the story seemed to go bit deeper than that, I am pretty sure the movie will be more successful after it is released on Blu-ray and DVDs. Fifth Element was one of those films I could see more times that became better when I noticed all the small details they paid attention to.
I am in Europe and so far everyone I know said "I was amazed by the visual at first, but it started to be incredibly boring after a while with main characters acting like the worst kind of annoying teenagers".
Some scenes, characters from Star Wars were based on Valerian. Remember when Han Solo was frozen?
This scene came from Valerian.
Remember Leias metalic bikinie? Laurine wore it first!
Heck, even Valerian and Laurine are bases Han Solo and Leia!!
Yurikoya Ttarius ooooh that explains a lot actually. I've seen the movie recently and could make a lot of parallels with the Star Wars universe and sometimes cinematography
Actually... no.
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Yurikoya Ttarius laurine went tomb raider mode morron and the frozen part doesn't look the same
Some scenes? The entire concept of star wars was inspired by valerian
i agree, as a fan of the original comic i just did not feel the lead actor was right for the part and it focused too much on a none existent chemistry between the two. In the comic and animated series the pair clearly have some chemistry but the actors in the movie just did not.
I've seen ads for it and now this and still don't know what the fuck it's about.
I watched it and felt like I missed whole chunks of context...
Chris McDonald
Haha I was gonna type something similar :P
Teenyboppers save the universe. Beyond that, not a fucking clue . . .
DeadHawk it's probably about a city of a thousand planets
DeadHawk same 😂😂
Here's why the movie flopped, they spent the entire budget on cgi effects instead of good writing and decent actors, simple as that
restless rogue omg somebody who knows!!!!
restless rogue this movie needed lots of CGI effects. He says it took many years before the comic strip was adapted into a film due to lack of the right technology before. in other words, this movie wouldn't be possible without the best technology.
restless rogue are you talking about Dunkirk ? :')
Good writing for Valerian, it's an already made story !! A French comic book... you can't re-write the story
restless rogue dane is a great actor!
Tess DEPRET the story doesn't need to be changed, it's more how you adapt it from book to screen, which isn't a very easy task I'll admit. The story from the book might be too long, so you have to find a way to shorten it, you may have to cut out certain parts, and the writer might want to take make their own creative changes to the script. This process isn't easy, but it's possible to make at least a decent film, and this movie unfortunately did a terrible job of adapting it
I thought it was good. I liked it very much.
I caught this on Netflix a few days ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought the visuals and photography were great especially the opening scenes. I also loved the aliens called The Pearls, and thought if they'd had more screen time (like Avatar), the film could have had more of an impact. The two leading characters were not too bad. Cara Delevigne definitely shone in my opinion. I'd give it 3.5/5.
It doesn't help that the main characters look like brother and sister who are sexually attracted to each other...
i thought they were brother ans sister
They look like brother and brother even worse
I thought so as well
Hollywood loves incest and paedophilia so no surprise
You mean like in the first Star Wars? Didn't hurt them! :-)
I am a 39 years old person and I remember, when I was young, around my 11 or 12 years old, every single person around me used to like Science Fiction, to the point that wasn't difficult at all, to find houses full of Science Fictions books, magazines and movies, that neighbors and people alike used to collect, now in this age, people find a picture of some celebrity bush more interesting than a good sci-fi movie.
Well as someone who has seen the movie, I must disagree with some of your points. Marketing the visuals was what got me to go see the movie and that was a good thing, because visuals and background world / universe are really the strong points, with story and main actors falling flat on their face. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but suffice it to say, that the main villain is unoriginal to the extrem and the heroes, Valerian in particular, are just annoying. The visuals on the other hand were so good, that it was still a decent movie overall in my book.
If they had marketed the story or characters more, I might not have gone to see it, because there is nothing to market there. Visuals are the only reason to see this movie, so that is also what needs to convince you, or you might as well not go.
Saw it for the visual spectacle and a bit of hope for something like the space opera scene from the 5 element. I will probably remember some of the background characters more than the main leads. I give it a mech out of 10.
I like the actor who played Valerian (Dane DeHaan) from Chronicles, and I think he played this part very well as well. That his character was annoying, well, his personality is based on the comics'. Cara Delavigne (or however you spell it) was so out of space though. I agree on the story part, was blunt and predictable.
Agreed 100%, I really wanted to like the movie... but it's really just pretty to the eye
I agree. I think the advertising did the best they could.wiuth a crappy item to sell.
Obviously everyone is different, but I 100% agreed with the point about the trailers. I'm someone who does enjoy comic-based movies, but really needs to be "sold" by the trailers to actually be driven to see them. I was more bugged by the trailers I was spammed with here on youtube. They were nothing but "HEY LOOK AT HOW MUCH CGI AND ACTION SEQUENCES WE PACKED THIS MOVIE WITH". I want plot first and foremost and the trailers gave me the impression that this movie was going to be just a bunch of empty graphics (whether that was actually true or not).
This movie was great! Some of the best graphics I've seen. The main characters were a bit off putting in their acting, but I think it actually made it more interesting. Rihanna's dance scene was mesmerizing to watch! It's a shame she died because if they make a second film, she could've had a bigger role which I think would have drawn in more fans. Anybody who says this movie wasn't good, is not a true fan of Sci-Fi!!!
valerian - city of a thousand planets... starring Chris Pratt and gal gadot... would've made about five hundred million. The casting was horrible.
An independently financed French film, albeit the most expensive French film of all time, would have an impossible time prying Pratt from his Disney contract and Gadot from her Warners one. Pratt was the fat guy from Parks & Rec and Gadot was a former model and Miss Israel without many more credits than Delevingne before they blew up in their superhero roles. Also, don't forget Passengers starring Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence had a $14 mil opening weekend.
Gods of the Singularity if my boy Chris Pratt was in this..... I would be at the theater at the first screening in IMAX 3D!!!
It would be better with chris pratt
I agree!!!!!
Gods of the Singularity right 😂
It's because the two lead actors...
hmm, Dane DeHaan is my favorite young actor. I see great potential in him. Too bad his movies weren't a hit. But look at Chronicle that was good acting and the movie was very good. But his best acting comes from The Place Beyond the Pines, one of my favorite movies in recent years. And he even did a good job in spider-man, but again the movie itself was very bad. so it didn't help.
My thoughts exactly. Yeah, they aren't just likable from the first sight....Jupiter Ascending actors were much more likeable and I could enjoy looking at them. Dane looks like he's constantly having a hangover and he's not that handsome nor looking fit... and the girl is not my type, if I dated girls :}
Well i dont mind new actors being a new film but they have to execute their actings and roles more dynamically but i never seen the film itself. I can tell by how they talk that it would be dull as crap with how they are performing it.
The guy actor was great in Chronicle
Agreed they are good actors just put in the wrong rolls. It looks like two sixteen year olds trying to save the universe. if I'm spending $17 its not going to be on this movie.
The fact they used Rihanna and that model in the trailer was a sign for me it used star power (which aren't actors, using famous actors for star power is different, because they are famoud because they are good actors) to cover potential lack of good content. Plus the 0 advertisment didn't help either
IKEA 2 hard 4 fresco I don't think Cara and Rihanna are bad actresses, I liked how they developed their characters although I wished they had explained more the origins from the main characters. It kinda remind me to star wars in a good way.
I love this movie. I've watched it a few times over the last couple of years. It's amazing and Rhi Rhi's part was awesome. The actors were great and the graphics were outstanding.
Agreed❤
my boyfriend and I were the only one in the theatre watching that one. it was a real long movie and we were the last ones out and the place was closing.
but I really liked it despite not knowing anything about it.
my boyfriend said it had strong mass effect feel to it and thats why he picked it. it wasn't that bad and rhiana being put into it confused us both 😂😂
I wanted to see the war ape movie or baby driver but since I was dragging him to the mall next Tuesday I let him choose.
Laura baby driver is better
+Laura I'm not your boyfriend. we never went to a theater. please stop calling me that. we have a restraining order. we are over. please leave me alone. I know it's you that keeps sneaking into my house to organize my stuff. please stop. it's really creepy.
Laura why would Rihanna being in the movie be confusing? She's been in other roles.
domesticV1190XxOo because there was no real significance for her to be there. the whole film had like b list and lower celebrities and than theres rhi. she just stuck out like a sore thumb is all
You can't have a kid who looks like he's 15 acting like the old and tired badass who's seen too much, fought too many battles, and loved too many women. "A soldier" who's the best of the best? The script sounds like it was written for Korben Dallas (or Bruce Willis...or John McLane). This needed a tough guy 'take no shit actor' like Gerard Butler, Dwayne Johnson, Samuel L. Jackson - or on the cheap, literally ANY actor over 40 who could pull off a badass. But no. They cast some 18(?) year old who looks like he belongs in Spy Kids and my suspension of disbelief is out the window.
Exactly what I thought. having a boy-man barely out of teenagehood with 9 years military experience, a shitload of medals and having slept with a full wall of girlies? GTFO...
That dude is 31 lol
Felix Danger dane is 31 lmao
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They're fighting aliens on different planets with super technology and the kid actor is the reason why your suspension of disbelief is out the window?
Never read the comic, but went to the movie for a friends birthday party; LOVED IT.
everyting free is good
I liked the movie too.
But mostly for visuals.
The story is not that good, at least if you have no comic background.
Lead couple... well, not exactly the stars. Acting is ok, but not beyond that.
u obviously have HORRID tastes in movies
I watched the movie. Wasn't that bad. The story was solid, I particularly liked the pearl species and their part in the movie, and even the rest of the military were solid roles even if the bad guy's performance was a little cringy. The main actor was my main issue to be honest. He just didn't match the character at all. He was like a teenager, but Valerian is supposed to be a soldier, and most importantly a likeable guy, and his performance made him annoying, unprofesional and sloppy at his job. Even Kara who is not a magnificent actor did better than him, but she was given really weird scenes when one moment she is badass and cool and the next she is just a useless girl that has to be rescued or just be there for a bad joke. Overall the movie is not bad, but not great either.
You know, i think the exact same thing about the Fifth element every time I see it. There are so many cringy moments, and the romance was absolutely bad, but I love watching it for kicks, and everyone praises it. I'm going to see this movie because the scifi fan in me can't deny this movie looks dope.
The actor is fucking 32 years old
And teenagers can be soldiers you know 😑
Asha Nimo I didn't say he *looked* like a teenager didn't I? No, I didn't. I said he "was like a teenager," implying similarity. It doesn't matter how old the actor is, his behavior was one of a teenage boy, that's what I meant. And, ok, maybe teenagers can be soldiers (great nations with millions of millions of people, aliens and money obviously have to use teenagers as soldiers. They are obviously the best option. Who needs experience and maturity? Pff it's not like the only nations using child soldiers are the ones that actually lack people to be soldiers...), but rationally speaking, the whole world they portrayed in the movie is not supposed to be ok with young soldiers. Moreover, he is supposed to be a Mayor, that's a pretty high rank that demands professionalism, seriousness and overall experience. That's why he doesn't work for the roll. He is careless, unprofessional, he doesn't follow orders and he put's his crew at risk. Also, I still think he was unlikeble as a character. So there's that.
Ps: your two comments contradicted each other. Either you didn't see him as a teenager, but a mature soldier, or you saw him as a teenager soldier and you are ok with that. So you are arguing for nothing...
Lmao 🤮🤮🤮
Knew it was going to flop from the first trailer. It looked like a movie that audiences wouldn't of been able to connect with. It's a shame because it looks good and I'm going to see it when it comes out in the UK.
NO no no -avoid!
Wait until the DVD is in the $1.99 bin at WalMart
just when I saw cara delivigne was casted, I knew this film is going to flop.
same
Lean Gonzaga...yeah she sucks.
MattP 81 she's really nice but she isn't that good of an actor
yup. she gets jobs cause her family is rich but people call that "talent".
not even that. She got it because of her friends.
I actually enjoyed it. Gives a really good break from the stress of working because it wasn't too overdone and it met my expectation of a casual movie.
right! It's a good movie to watch on a boring afternoon or just to lay back and relax
Rafe does that translate to "not actually a good movie but its so visually appealing i dont mind it" bc thats what i though when i watched it
Really? I found the storyline with the blue people to be exactly the same as all of the left wing bullshit I hear on the news.
Yeah I agree but this was in no way a Casual Movie in my opinion.
Finally someone who understands that this movie was meant to just enjoy the pretty faces and the sparkles. The movie's visuals is a 10/10, and if you take it for what you expect it to be, you can enjoy it, even with the very sub par acting.
I think it's deeply unfair to say that "unfamiliarity with the source material" is a reason for it flopping. That can be said of any original concept or any lesser-known work of fiction, and familiarity hasn't guaranteed recent Star Wars films like "Solo" from flopping.
Cara Delavigne is a model not an actress... stop putting her in movies for God's sake
Taylinne M say it louder for the people in the back
if she wants to act, she should be in smaller movies and improve etc, not outright some massive budget movies
trippyandi CARA DELAVIGNE IS A MODEL NOT AN ACTRESS!!! STOP FUCKING PUTTING HER IN MOVIES GODDAMMIT!!
Exactly. Can't wait for this desperate attempt at making her happen to end.
People didnt say that about wonder woman... thats weird.
Valerian only had beautiful setting, which drew some audiences, but its story content was boring, that's why it flopped.
This video is low key doing better than the movie
Nathan A 😂 So true!
Nathan A 😂😂😂😂😂
Nathan A this video made $17mil?
FUZIØNTM uhh no this video probably has more views than valerian did. And while it made 17 million it cost 108 million, which actually lost the studio 91 million dollars whereas this video will probably make a few thousand. Maybe if you actually paid attention to the video you'd stop making such inane comments on the internet. I really hope you'll refrain from making such deluded questions because none of us have the time for stupidity.
Well it didn't cost 100's of millions to make.
Some storyline wasn't that interesting for me but Valerian was a decent movie, nice atmosphere beautiful leading girl, some interesting scenes and fantasy sci fi adventure is a good combo. I'd switch out the main male hero Valerian with someone else though he wasn't interesting at all. It felt like he was supposed to be one of those cool player jock types, but he didn't look like one or made me feel like he was one, he just pretended to be serious and cool with a few jokes here n there. Didn't make the audience feel like he was worthy of the girl at all. He just looks and sounds like a perv to me.
surfer dude in space wasn't fitting in well with me either,,, did you think the Rihanna seen was even relevant in the movie as well?
You sound like a perv
This comment nailed the reason it flopped
Agreed, the lead was all wrong in the casting. “James Bond in space” played by a 15 year old sk8tr boi lookin scrawny nobody just kills any immersion the movie might have had with the right actor in place.
Thought the same thing. I liked the movie, but I didn't think that guy's character was a good fit. Maybe if he approached it differently, the actor could have come off better.
I'm from Italy, I don't know how it's going in our country (it's out now) but my parents wanted to see it (my father likes this kind of space movies). I've never heard about the comic but I loved the movie, despite a couple of plot holes. The graphic and design was perfect and I've found the acting very well done. I've also liked that the trailer didn't spoilered the main story like it happens nowdays.
i knowed the comics but ... i never realy liked the paint style of them and most of the storys were very childisch, but i realy like the movie, its so sad they dint do any promo in germany bevore the movie was into the cinemas... no wounder the people didnt come to see it, as the trailers started the time of the movie in the cinemas was allready over... its like someone wanted it to go bad...
I think they went too young with the 2 main roles. They look like they're in their twenties, not someone you would look to to save your ass. Kinda reminded me of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in that way.
I thought the actor playing Valerian looked more like 16. Couldn't figure out how a Major could be so young.
They also looked like fraternal twins rather then love interest.
Me and my brother saw only the poster (JUST the poster!) and thought, damn what is this, edgy kids in space? Won't watch.
This vid is actually the first time I saw a clip of it and hey the special effects look cool! But the actors still don't capture my interest.
That's because Valerian is supposed to be in his rather late 30s when the plot of the movie happens, while Laureline is in her mid 20s... those that don't know the comics don't know the backstory to those two (some years before the movie, Valérian - aleady an established time-space agent at the time - decided to bring her back to the 28th century after a mission he did in the France of the year 1000, when she was 16. He used advanced memory implants to put her up to date with his modern world, and she was then integrated in the Service as his underling).
Lol, all this money for CGI and they couldn't even make her a red head..
Cast better leads. There. Done. No need to watch this 6 minutes video.
Legend👍
Not even that, the movie itself is just terrible. Even with better actors that movie still woulda sucked :/
Meh....I liked it. It was an amazing adventure and visually stunning. The character development needed work though
It was a graphically amazing movie, but man that story I just don't know what the fuck.
yeah you hit the nail on the head...I saw it was suppose to be like 5th element but the plot was so generic.....and then there were some super plot holes like : SPOILER: the converter somehow survived the planet being destroyed and the aliens surviving on half of a human spaceship in space after the planet was blown away.....then don't let me go any further with further WTF.....but yeah graphics and characters were great
It's not one of the converters that was on the planet when it was destroyed. They were obviously known throughout the galaxy even though they were ultra rare and all records of their homeworld has been errased.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise It looked like Avatar in the trailers at some point and it now shares Avatar's faults. Visuals over story(though Avatar's characters were also a bit meh).
The male lead also lacked any charisma at all. Sound design was off the entire movie too. There were moments of silence where there should've been music and the music they used didn't even fit the scene.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise same
I believe Leon the Professional also did poorly in america and that movie is a masterpiece ! Same as with Nikita !
Nikita as in the tv show?
nope, the movie
Oh strange I gotta check it out then
uhrm nope, I mean the original french movie la femme Nikita from 1990 which was later poorly remade for the US with Point of No Return 1993
Maybe it's just me, but I think that a big reason Valerian flopped was because of Cara. I think that she is a somewhat capable actor, however I think she's just so incredibly dry. Her emotions seem...basic. Boring. She never conveys more than she has to, making it hard for the audience to connect to her and for her to have chemistry with her fellow actors. With a movie that seemed to depend on her stardom to gain a better following, just seeing her in every single trailer told me that this was going to be almost monotonous and uninteresting. In reality, aside from the two lead actors, the film was alright, and especially visually stunning. However, it was clearly mis-cast. Using such unfit actors in so much advertising was likely a big reason why the movie failed.
Cara isn't great, but I don't think she is individually responsible for the flop
Pink Ladies of course not
lol "Maybe it's just me"
The new "no offense"
Always followed by a lengthy explanation that tries to push it off on "Audiences"
Grown a pair of balls and say "I hate that bitch" which is exactly what you want to say, but pussyfooted around it for a whole god damn story about how you like her but everything she does is all wrong for the "Audience"
Take the heat of your own shit you bitch.
TheDerpyDolphin she would play a good badass in a movie, you know, that nonchalant chick in sci fi movies that always kicks ass, like seline from resident evil
I think Cara was fine, but the actor playing valerian looked like he was 16.
I genuinely loved this movie and after the fifth element in his back catalogue alone I was guaranteed to put my cash up for tickets. My son loved it too. I even got the blu ray and I genuinely feel it was a refreshing movie among all the superhero flicks and remakes of that summer. I was really hopeful it would do well as it was originally going to be a trilogy or more, hopefully Mr Besson gets back to it at some point as I'd love to see how it continues and ends properly and I know my son would be up for it too. I love Bessons work in general but I wouldn't say I'm a fanboy as such, hes just a really bloomin good film maker and I respect the guy. P.s. The visuals in this movie are amazing and Herbie Hancock is in it too yay lol.
Thank you. I did not know the director did Leon 5th Element and this. That is aweaome. I'm a huge movie fan (well I thought I was before this lol) and collect posters and want to get some real props but can't afford them. I almost got a brick of blue dream from Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man! Seriously you know you're stuff. We're not worthy!
Btw I really liked and hate Ethen Hawks character. I know time period would be wrong but an Easter egg related to Explorers would have been phenomenally cool
I personally just want to see actual actors. Cara Delevingne became a model because of her numerous connections, that she was born with, to the industry. Now she's become an actress because "hey, she's famous, so why not?"
jonathan wakefield Privileged Brits?!!! More like Privileged English! (Eddie Redmayne, Simon Pegg, John Boyega, Sophie Turner, Ricky Gervais are among others, Bang average at best!!!)...The Welsh don't get anywhere near the credit their actors deserve. (Iwan Rheon as Ramsey in Game of Thrones and Matthew Rhys in The Americans...say no more).
You shouldn't use the term British when it includes people from multiple different cultures...English!, Welsh!, And Scottish!
Nada Barton very true. Really it comes down to a lack of characters from those countries, in my opinion. I'm Irish and I have no words to describe how pissed off i was that in Calvary, a fantastic Irish film, they gave Brendan Gleeson's daughter an English accent so they could cast an English actor.
Wow. Love when people get jelous because of connections. Get yourself any and maybe you will be a model yourself. Oh wait. Probably not.
Sorry, Linda. I don't have a rich father who can use his influence or buy my way into a modelling career or movie career. Nor do I have a vagina that I can use to get me roles.
Thumbs up for Matthew Rhys. Couldn't agree more. The Americans is one of my favorite TV shows.
I didn't go because it reminded me of Jupiter Ascending
Jupiter Ascending was not only the Worst Sci-Fi Movie I have seen up to now, but probably in the top 5 worst movies I have ever seen. I can't remember the other 4.
Exactly.
Same I can't imagine why anyone would finance this movie after that movie was rejected at the box office too
Jupiter Ascending wasn't really that bad.
Southernbelle2978 it was pretty bad
I have to confess, I loved the adds for Dunkirk with Cillian Murphy saying "I'm not going back, I'm not going back!, Turn around..." every time I saw it, I was like OMG I have to see what happens to this man...like the fear and emotion was relatable. For Valerian, I was like Uhhh I'll what for it to come out on demand.
Rosemary Williams yeaaaaaaaah and when you finally see the film, his dumbass character does nothing but killing an innocent youngster... wow, fucking trailers ! Dunkerque was a really good movie, but, fuck, valerian is also an awesome one... at least for the universe. Still prefer Dunkerque though
Wait What...well now I'll save my money and wait for it to come on demand.
Besson doesnt care, he makes what he wants and for me he never disappoints (Yes, even Lucy)
he better start caring.....or he won't have a job.
He's had plenty of 'flops', his investors don't seem to care. Whether or not people agree with his vision and/or execution, he does it for the joy first and the profit second. I admire that in him.
Lucy was shit , and I love ScarJo more than my own wife :)
Yes you hit the nail on the head. The trailer didn't even have Rihanna which would have drawn so many young people to the see the movie. Also the trailer did not explain what the movie was about I'm so confused until today like what's the point of this mission?
Millicent Lopez I saw the trailer in the cinema, never heard of the comic, the impression I got was that they were relying on effects and cgi rather than plot
If you go the bright CG route, you need something campy like a baby tree dancing to *Mr Blue Sky* or you have to go full on Douglas Adams.
The trailer told me that the movie would be stupid and forgettable.
Rabbit on Da Moon and to me it was trying to be another Avatar...8 years later
Rihanna would have scared off a lot more people, remember Battleship?
Actually the trailer did have Rihanna. That's one of the reasons why I said I could never watch it. That and I went to Dunkirk instead, which was way better.
Why it flopped:
Wooden acting
Horrid script
Useless trailers
Outrageously stupid timing
... But pretty visuals I guess?...
It flopped because I didnt go, never heard of it lol
Rick Tata Damn 💀
but that doesn't matter, nobody heard of guardians of the galaxy or fucking TAKEN but they still made money and were hits, wanna know why? because they were good movies.
QUEX I think he was talking about the marketing campaign for the movie, not the fame of the source material.
What? Everyone knew about Guardians of the Galaxy and Taken. It was marketed everywhere, they had AMA's. Guardian of the Galaxy had a huge fanbase and not only that it but it was extremely hyped up, and everywhere you went you saw a trailer for this movie. Not only that but it was produced by fucking Marvel. You are an idiot who thinks Guardian of the Galaxy or Taken who is starred by Liam fucking Neeson is unknown.
Wide World of Trains but it has the best ever opening scene....in history....
Movie is great. Fresh, dynamic, fun, just cool action/sci-fi blend, stunning visual effects and entire vision is just nice.
But same as others wrote ... i got to cinema by accident and did not see single adv of it before.
I was interested when seeing the trailers, but was turned off once I saw Cara. Maybe casting directors will finally have some sense slapped into them. the audience doesn't care about names,we want to see talent.
They have made the same mistake like Disney with John Carter. Mixing children stories with teenagers stories doesn't work.
I can't wait to see Cara in every movie possible.
tooearlyforapril hopefully this won't happen to the emoji movie, in theaters July 28.
the trailer made me not interested
"the audience doesn't care about names"
* decides what movie to avoid based on actors in trailers *
Well it's kinda hard to generate excitement for a film when the name of your movie 'Valerian' also refers to a plant that puts people to sleep.
John Smithee zing!
First thing that popped into my head when I heard the title!
I actually bought Valerian in the past, lol, it helped me sleep.
Go See THE LIVE. We Sleep. The Title and entire story is way more META MEME than you realise. ( SciFi is the dream used to blind and bind the general public while the elite rob the world. )
Just like this movie hey ho
When the video stating why Valarian flopped makes more from RUclips than the movie itself.
william rutherford k kj book.
The movie was great, the only place I came across it was flying on an international flight, browsing through all of the off color movies I hadn't even heard about much in my home-state of Utah....
Kind of glad actually, I hate being bombarded by people throwing money at me forcing me to look at what they want me to see, my encounter with the film came about fairly naturally, only really hearing about it 1 or 2 times before actually watching it...
Summary of most of these comments: "The movie failed because of Cara", and "They shouldn't have casted a model for a lead role".
I loved the movie and I wouldn't call it a flop spiderman earned 3 million more and it is hailed as a success.
+ZeAlphaWolf I almost misread. I thought you had said "They should have" instead of shouldn't have. IDK, It has nothing to do with her being a model or anything, but one thing for sure is she cannot act. Some of her line deliveries were so stiff it was cringeworthy.
I thought she did better (maybe by comparison) than that Dane guy. He was so awful and monotone. Guy literally didn't give a shit about this movie
Actually... Cara acted better than the male lead in most of the scenes. Or at least more believably.
anxez,
I have to agree. I was surprised that Cara's Laureline was maybe the best part of the movie and almost the only character with a soul in it. In the movie she was the one who actually expressed emotion where as DeHaan's Valerian came of as a smug bore. The reviews speak of the leads not having chemistry on-screen and while Cara may not be the best actress in the world or even anywhere close to that, it wasn't her fault that the chemistry wasn't there. I put most of the blame on DeHaan who I felt was terribly miscast as Valerian to begin with. He has too much of a baby face to be "a major" in any army or anything. It felt like Laureline was thrown together with Valerian Jr. or something.
*Hollywood stop trying to shove Cara Delewhatever down our throats*
First of all try to have some culture. Valerian it's not an Hollywood movie it's an European movie made by "EuropaCorp" a society from France. You want to know why this movie didn't work at the box office???
It's just because of that not an Hollywood movie. You speak about the cast etc etc. Matt Damon in "The Great Wall"
a commercial flop... it was a Chinese movie.
I'm sure Valerian will have success sooner or later...
That picture of her with a shaved head, YIKES! She looks like a damn alien that could have been in the movie. Some women need their hair badly! It did made me feel better about my diminishing looks though, maybe I can model too if she can pull it off.
LurkerDood she's boring 😕😕
Ricardo Sousa If it's good, it doesn't matter where it's from. This movie looks like hot garbage.
She's one of the main reasons why I wanted to see the movie. She was the soul of the film.
yeah, from the trailers I couldn't tell whether they were siblings or love interests and I just didn't care. they looked like such an odd pair (which was perhaps the point). they def relied on style > content for the trailers. but without context/content I didn't care about delving into their universe. Even if "unique", it seemed like a stupid universe since the trailers couldn't even tell me what went on there.
I love that movie and already watch it several times.. Love the story and the acting from everyone...to be honest ,Besson never fail with his creations!
When I first heard of this movie, I though it was called "Valerian and the Planet of a thousand cities"
Yeah, isn't that what it's called? Maybe they shortened it. That would be a good idea . . . to shorten such a long name. I wonder what the website name is.
No, it's called "Velerian and the City of a Thousand Planets" . . . ridiculous name, so nobody could relate, so nobody went to see it. It gets 6.9 out of 10 at IMDB though, so it couldn't be THAT bad. I think it flopped because of the marketing . . . or lack of marketing.
Scott K I read it wrong, that's why I thought it was called that ;)
I think if they had cast two strong lead actors--it would have worked. The guy looks like he's 14 years old.
Bobzeda u must be dumb.
Glenn Mcdaniel You watch too much anime ya weeb
He's 30 and he just had a baby lol. I haven't watched the movie yet and as a fan of him, I must admit I'm quiet surprised for him to play a superhero movie, as the superhero, he's freakin awkward but he's cute tho.
I agree I love sci fi and as soon as I saw appeared to be teens to save universe then not happening Sometimes young look sucks and in this case it did Dude might be 30 but still looks 14
hm
One reason it flopped is because there was no message behind it. I've seen countless advertisements but, I couldn't tell you one thing about it other than there is supposedly 1,000 cities. The marketing team flopped big time.
I actually really liked this movie, it's underrated
Quit trying to make Cara happen
Thank you!
Happiness Bunny ha ha
Her eyebrow is a better actor
Happiness Bunny to tell you the truth i dont see what the hype is about, to me she is not attractive nor beautiful, she is just ok...
This.
I actually really liked Valerian. Maybe their marketing could have been better, but the movie was enjoyable.
I LOVED Valerian. I hope to see more of Luc Besson's movies this side of the pond.
I hadn't heard anything about this movie before I took my fiance on a date night to the movies. So we watched this and we were thrilled. It is such a good movie and a shame that no one else wanted to see it
I didn't even know this movie existed.
Me neither, I think that's the reason it flopped...no marketing
Manny Rivera Dude me too. I didnt even hear of this girl people are talking about.
OH COME ONP, it's Luc Besson. I've been following his filmography since "The fifth element".
He still making movies?
It's a cool movie, based on a French Space Opera from 1969 (my very young youth and I loved it). At least for the visuals and complexity of the canvas it's worth it. It would make for a good Space Opera RPG Video Game.
I have a feeling this is gonna be a 'Slow Burn' movie that develops more of a following after it hits DVD/BluRay.
it already did recover
Really? Nice
Yeah, pretty much
slow burn. good one. this movie has revealing info about the very beginning. many people didnt get it. its still not accurate but close.
Legalizing marijuana and LSD could save it.
Because they spent $200 million on a movie staring teens and Rianna? Do you think Sharkboy and Lavagirl would have been a great movie if they had only thrown another couple hundred million at it?
hartsfang I mean Dane is 31 and Cara is 24, wouldn't really call them teens.
McFunnyPantz I currently want to see Valerian but each time I see those two actors looking and acting like angsty-teenagers on screen I question whether I really want to spend the 11 dollars required to watch that.
The aliens all look pretty disturbing but the visuals look great. Artistic wise, creature designs can either be relate-able (and lovable) or they can be edgy (and forgettable) but never both. So I'm not sure I want to see a movie with angsty teen heroes and forgettable aliens that all resemble an old man's left testicle after it's been beaten with a hammer.
Okay so I'm a critic, but...
I'm still open to being convinced to see the movie. What are your favorite aspects of the movie?
Don't talk shit about The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl. Who do you think you are?
Shark Boy & Lava Girl ?? That sounds amazing - What is that ??
just the greatest movie of all time.
They didn't have a big distributor like Disney and Warner bros. marketing it. I don't think I ever saw any advertising for it. It's a shame because it really is a good film.
It flopped because Dane Whateverhisnameis is a horrible, creepy looking actor. He can't carry a movie. He can look creepy, that's about it. That doesn't go very far.
LOL I'm actually a fan of Dane DeHaan, but this comment made me laugh
zXMARINEXz q Glad to hear you feel the same. Many of my friends also are super creeped out by him. He's not a leading man. Maybe in horror he could be, but even in The Cure For Wellness, the weakest part of the film was his acting (and that's saying a lot given the ridiculous plot).
I liked Valerien. It had a unique storyline. I really appreciated that the movie didn't focus on the romance, but rather on the struggle of a species to regain their home. Valerian was a refreshing treat from the rinse and repeat action flicks that just keep coming out.
really? i felt like it was heavy on romance...
That sarcasm is spot on. Good job. lol
Cocoa Girl same with me.
Grant Wallace nah man think about it....when the action got going there wasn't any time for the lovey dovey stuff... just pure save the creature save the guy save the girl then save the world. ... then then save the relationship.
Word
Really sad to hear that it flopped like that. For me it was one on the greatest and freshest movie i have seen in a long time. I loved the pacing. There was not a single boring moment in which nothing happend. The Style is great. There are so many details in this Universe. I also down't know the comic, which didn't hinder my experience with the movie at all.
I didn't want to go to the toilet the whole way through because I was worried I'd miss something cool. It was consistently inventive and visually stunning. The film has had a weird inception effect on me, I keep thinking about sequences and visuals over and over. Now I have an itch to see it again.
Yah i was shocked too now i see this.i loved it so much and nothing was vague
Lots of stuff happened, but nothing really happened.
A jellyfish that can kinda see the future or whatever of a person... what?
Spend 10 minutes looking at a dancer when your partner is hostage... what?
The dancer dying after 10 minutes and we are supposed to care... what?
Killing random primitive aliens, especially the fisherman who was trying to feed his kids... what?
How much is 100Kajjigger? Is it a lot? It sounded a lot... what?
Acting lol... what?
Magically tie up the General when the ship leaves... what?
Most of these were visually stunning, but they were empty as fuck.
Only good part was the first 5-10 minutes where they introduced all the different aliens.
it seemed rather hollow and disjointed. I think it would have made an excellent tv series. Give them time to flesh out the universe and characters more.
All those points are valid, and those are exactly the same things I noticed too. But I still enjoyed it.
Which is really sad, because I really enjoyed this movie and would love to see Luc's follow ups to it.
Don't count Valerian out, yet, Looper Viewers. I saw it today in spite of Looper's comments. I have never seen a Valerian graphic story; so, the characters were completely unknown to me. I thought the characters were well developed, interesting and engaging. V and L were believable heroes and believable romantic interests. Clive Owen was a believable villain. Ethan Hawke was a believable nightclub-owning lowlife. And Rihanna...Rihanna was believably the greatest performing artist in The Universe! The action was fast-paced. I was never bored (not true for me in Spider-Man). The visuals were SUPERB.
I would give it four stars and a heartfelt recommendation. I think you'll be very pleased you saw it.
Try reading the comics. The movie just shows many races as a cameo, while all of them have roles in the books, one at a time. You will enjoy recognizing what each one is, its history and customs. And also why the Shingouz act like they do.
I saw both Valerian and Dunkirk on opening day. Although both movies are great in their own way, I enjoyed Valerian waay more and didn't mind paying full price for it and its one of the only movies I would pay to see again in 3D.
I agree with all of this save for Rihanna. Rihanna seemed a bit forced. But other than that, I'm pretty sad that this movie won't be seeing a sequel
Rihanna is nothing more than a lip synching stripper. She doesn't write her own songs. She doesn't play any instruments. She just strips down naked on a stage and gyrates while pretending to sing.
+Wayne Michael but she's big time rich and you're not HATER
Ok. I now why:
-Use a singer as an actress.
-Use a model as an actress.
-Try to make a sci-fi but it looks like a young-adult film like mazerunner or hunger games.
-Dunkirk
-Homecoming
- Dane 'Worst Goblin' Dehaan.
actully Rihanna was one of the better charcters
Yeah I was in theaters a week before Valerian was going to release and thought about going to see it later but Homecoming was SOOOOOO good. Made my standards too high Lol
Agree 100%. I saw the trailer and thought we're gonna call these two to save the galaxy? Not buying it.
Actually cara has had acting experience before most of them did not flop
For me it was Cara and the lack of story telling.
The trailers it just looked like a movie with pretty effects which didn't do much for me. It was so hard to even catch up with the trailers at times. Plus every time it came on my TV there was only a sentence said.
With Cara I still see her as a model her acting doesn't impress me. I don't feel like she becomes a character. When I see her in these trailers I don't feel like I'm experiencing anything new. It looks like a movie with a model as the lead role. I love Nicki Minaj but Cara in these movies is the equivalent of Nicki's cameos.
sweetxjc yup. When I saw cara it gave me a headache. She's just not interesting or a good actress. She looks like every other white skinny model. Shes like Kiersten Stewart. No one likes seeing her on screen.
I finally got around to watching it ... and was blown away!!!
Admittedly I had very low expectations, so the first ten minutes I could hardly catch my breath, freakin amazing!
It is ridiculous that everybody is talking this movie down!
As a conspiracy-lover I also feel inclined to believe that maybe Hollywood - critics, studios, trade mags and all - didn't want to give France the chance to shine, since the movie was produced in brand new studios near Paris.
check the original comics books, they predate star wars
Yeah, that and John Carter of Mars are what inspired George Lucas to create Star Wars. Funny how both movies ended up “failures” where Star Wars was successful. Emphasis on was.
I was talked into going to see this movie, and I regret it. Valerian failed because the central love story could be out-performed by middle schoolers. The guy likes the girl from the start in a way that seems boring and empty, and she isn't at all interested (for obvious reasons). Then, by the end, with no character growth whatsoever, they're making out in a space capsule. Both characters are as one-dimensional and flat as in the beginning. Nothing changed. The story was okay and special effects were cool, but the characters were the worst I've seen in theaters. Sorry about the rant, but this movie kind of sucked.
You're right. She wasn't at all interested, and she wasn't at all interesting.
I agree but I'm sure you went for the romance not for the epic?
That awkward moment when more people have seen this video than the movie.
Sete DiSangue 😂😂😂 the best comment so far
I live in the UE and I think outside France no body recognizes Valerian comics. There are also more promising movies right now: Atomic Blonde, Baby Driver, Dark Tower and Spiderman. So your comment is terribly accurate!
Oh my god you're right
Dark tower, by all accounts it is going to be a massive flop. It looks terrible. Valerian is great. Baby driver was okay. Spiderman is a teen flick. Atom blondie is out next week. It looks ok.
I saw Atomic and Baby Driver last week and both were great for me. Most likely I will go see Valerian but I don't have my hopes up.
Just seen it! I don't agree in many points, I liked it for its magnificent visual effects as wonderful as Avatar . I found the plot interesting and well paced , better than Avatar that in the end , was the usual story of kind of Indians and cowboys.... The two main actors were also good and who said that two not very famous actors cannot be good in their roles only because they're not blockbusters' names??They were convincing IMO... Finally : it was worth seeing !! Thumbs up!!!
Same.
foreveryoung Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill were not blockbuster names to start with when the first "Star Wars" film came out.
foreveryoung EXACTLY! I hate seeing the same famous actors over and over again!!! I love fresh faces! Great Movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
watched it, loved it, watched again loved it even more ^^
The Real Reason is : main actors are pretty kids and dont fit at all.
Yeah, they look like teens who just left high school.
Dane Deehan is 31 yo but looks like a baby.
Dehan is neither a kid or pretty :)
I can easily imagine how smooth this movie could have went as a Tom Cruise movie
The market has been drenched recently with young adult novel-movie adaptations like Divergent or Maze Runner whose characters are unrelatable and whose plots are intelligence-insulting. Valerian may be nothing like those movies but when people see these really young actors playing roles better suited for people in their 30s or 40s... that's what they associate it with. People are tired of it.
It's not a matter of the comic not being popular...you know how many went to see doctor strange and guardians without ever knowing who they were? The movies simply appealed to a broader audience.
I agree. I actually really wanted to see this but idk Cara is a REALLY bad actor and I dont think I can stomach 90 minutes of that...
Widow Main sexist
lmao how is that sexist. if she had a dick she'd still be fucking terrible at acting
unnecessary things in this film including Rihanna. There were tooo many cringe worthy moments
Preach.
Your fucking unnecessary
You're
Mia Barr you wish you had Rihannas bank account bye little girl!
Mary One *Rihanna's *bye, little girl