My Reply To Dave Canterbury
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- There's been a bit of chit chat and back and forth since I did my video asking if Classic Camping is Anti-Bushcraft. Dave Canterbury weighed in and this is my response to him and to live stream videos that Shawn Dyer did on his Honorable Outfitters channel.
As a kid, I visited my great uncle up in northern Minnesota. This was about 1972, he was 92 years old and still bucking and splitting his own firewood. His swedish accent was so thick that he could hardly be understood. He wore knee high boots and pantaloons, suspenders, and a woods shirt. Cooking pancakes in the kitchen one morn, he left the room, and came back to find a bear walking off with his pancakes. Outhouses were the rule. Anyway, I think a whole lot of those folks that came to America were country folks and, there was a lot of woods know how there. Especially those guys from the 1800's. Thanks for the good video. I can see why some disciplines can't mix and match so much but, I can see the case for the general 'outdoorsman' getting his knowledge from several disciplines and, putting them together to becoming the outdoorsman that he wants to be.
👍 I understand what you are saying and agree with most of it. However, I have little patience for those who get lost in words or insist on putting folks in silos.
The so-called fathers of bushcraft live in the late 1800s, early 1900s, and mid 1900s. So they were all recreating with what today would be called “old-timey” stuff. To me that means Bushcraft can and was Classic Camping. Oh, and by the way both Bushcraft and Classic Camping are made-up terms.
If one must have silos I suggest the following:
1) Camping with old stuff
2) Camping with new stuff
3) Camping with a mix of new & old - the hybrid where I fit.
Let’s stop wasting 6 hours discussing different words for camping. Let’s😢 just go camping with gear we individually like, do some crafty stuff, go fishing, read a book, or whatever we do to enjoy nature. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for watching! Doing our own thing is exactly what we're doing. We just want something that tells people what that thing is so that the folks who want to do the same thing know where to go.
@@sargevining Sarge, please do not misunderstand me. I’m a subscriber and member of your RUclips channel and your Facebook pages.
I thoroughly enjoy when you Nathanael, and Shawn talk about old stuff, demonstrating how it functions, its history, and relevance to today’s modern gear. My eyes just glass over when anybody goes on & on defining silos for anything.
I totally respect your enthusiasm for camping with old stuff along with others who have the same dedication and hope you have many more years to enjoy it.
Thanks for promoting another interesting discussion. I also favor your term 'Campcraft.' Not every camp was set up in a forest...although those are my favorite places to camp and they are my favorite places to remember. Sleeping under a wax-coated truck tarp was not my favorite thing: they were stuffy and the wheat and oats they otherwise protected added a bit of dust. I tried to enjoy a modern reproduction from TentSmith and that Baker-style tent was also stuffy. Just like 'in the old days,' if I touched a spot, it leaked and condensation was also a drawback. I keep thinking that I would experience that level of shelter if I returned to camping in the old style. On the other hand, an Adirondack Shelter served me very well and left many happy memories for our family. Other than itchy wool underwear (hand-me-downs I got to wear as a child), I could and have gotten on very well with clothing from your period. Paraffin lanterns are some of my favorites and they are so much quieter than pressurized kerosine items. I grew up using hand-me-down camp cookware from my grandparents' road trips. I harbor no illusions. The enameled steel was better than tin, for sure, but food cooled way too fast. I probably would have been drummed out of Squirrel Camp, not least because I did not own a classic vehicle from that time. I do follow and enjoy those RUclips videos.
I camped under a 10 x 10 Visqueen painter's tarp on a roll of evazote. Yah, we've come a long way since the '60s and in the 60's folks had come a long way since the '20s.
what people don't seem to understand, There is Bushcraft in all forms of living history, in whatever period you are portraying it was simply called life. But, there is Living History in Bushcraft as well, you can't recreate any of the methods that we learned from the greats, Kephart, Wheelon, etc. without bringing that history back to life .
Agreed. The difference in in focus and in how that focus is maintained. As a commenter mentioned above, sometimes the focus gets lost and we end up with 10 knives and 6 hatchets---
By introducing Authenticity and Material Culture of the time, we can maintain our focus on campcraft. Our natural desire to focus on gear is satisfied if you have a known path and defined performance goals.
Wrong.
Buschraft never existed in America until the 2010's with everybody in America looking into survivalism after we were attacked on 9/11.
It was spread on the internet.
The word doesn't exist in any historical documents.
It was coined in the late 19th century in Africa by a Frenchman to describe the bushmen of Africa and Australia.
America didn't hear of it until Richard Grave's book from the 1970's, "The Ten Bushcraft Books" and even he was careful to distinguish the difference between bushcraft and woodcraft.
What Americans practice and have always practiced from the founding of our country, what the Native Americans practiced before the Europeans practiced, what the Spaniards and Portuguese and the French and the Dutch and the Scotts-Irish and the English and the Scandinavians practiced had always woodcraft and never bushcraft.
The Scouts were taught woodcraft. Longhunters practiced woodcraft. Trappers were woodsmen and woodsmen were woodsmen and were never referred to as bushmen or budhcrafters.
Kephart experienced the same situation in his day where all sorts of "crafts" were being concocted to disperse skills that woodsmen already had be they Native Americans or European immigrants or their descendants. Even back then, commercial interests and outfitters tried to re-label woodcraft to try to claim it, but Kephart, Nessmuk, Owen, Breck, Beard, Seton and others fought to preserve our American tradition of woodsmenship and protect our heritage.
Hunting, fishing, trapping, navigation, knowledge of flora & fauna, shelter, medicinals, reading the weather, dendrology, crafting, gear repair & maintenance, tools, canoeing, etc...
...this collection of skills when discussing the woodlands is "woodcraft". The word was coined by the English in the early 13th Century and was brought to America by English immigrants.
What is known as bushcraft today in America is re-labeled woodcraft and there's more than enough re-labeling and re-pronouning already (too much as far as I'm concerned).
Men are men, women are women, dogs are dogs, cats are cats, up is up, down is down and woodcraft is woodcraft.
@@YankeeWoodcraft your first three sentences are 100%, factually wrong. so wrong that I didn't even bother with the rest of the comment.
@@karlhungusjr1 Prove it's wrong.
I agree with you and Dave that Campcraft is a better term to define classic camping. There is an intersection between classic camping and bushcraft (aka woodscraft). I believe that a classic camp (glamping) should also allow for the more primative cousins that use skills from the old days.
Thanks for watching! But I haven't done my job well if you're getting the impression that Classic Camping is Glamping. Yes, there is a component of that, its called Motor Camping---but its the same today where folks do what we call car camping and others will do backpacking/back country camping. Most of the long-distance trails we see today; The Appalachian Trail, the Long Trail in Vermont, portions of the Pacific Crest Trail, and trails all through National Parks like Yosemite where you could go out and stay in the back country for days were either started or completed between WW1 & WW2. There were just as many people in the back country under tarps and ponchos as there were folks in wall tents pitched next to their Model Ts. Ask yourself this: If nobody was camping in the backcountry using primitive skills, who was buying all of the books and magazines written by Kephart, Miller, Whelan, Buzzacott, and Nessmuk?
Bushcrafters, in my experience, have a tendency to imply that nobody ever really got out there before their movement.
Every nation/Explorer (pick your flavor) that stepped onto a Western Hemisphere beach was camping, along with the cultures already here when they left their villages for the trail.
For those using gear, clothing, technogies from pre-Revolutionary War through early exploration West (1840), everything else after is "modern". This is my form of "camping".
I see bushcrafters searching out dead trees, arguing over expensive folding saws, using said saws to cut logs into lengths, carry back to camp to beat heck out of a knife to split it all into firewood - all the while stepping over, around, and even stumbling on perfectly good branches. 57 years old, almost 40 doing history-based outdoorsmanship, and I've never sawn a log or felt the need to smack a knife around to split one while out.
EVERYBODY who ventures outside to sleep away from home in their wilderness of choice, whether in a turn of the century motorcamping tentcabin, to a titanium cupped space station fabric backpack, to a flintlock-toting 1750s woodsman - they, we, are getting out whatever we're putting in.
There is seldom a new invention, as very often a wood/leather/forged/etc. example/artifact can come close.
We can all co-exist, doing our own thing, and respecting others for doing theirs. I bear no ill will towards, and respect, modern campers as long as they do the same to me.
If any of you encounter me out there, feel free to hail my camp. I'll likely welcome you to share the fire and answer any questions you might have.
Great comment
One of the goals I have in doing the History of Camping Gear series is to show folks that there's nothing really new in camping gear. Form and function was established long ago, all that's going on now is application of new materials. Hammock camping is the exception, its the one development of the last 100 years that is really something new.
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Last winter , two "bushcrafters" came along for an elk hunt west of Tok Alaska. Two nice guys / 24 & 26 years old , told me - this was a big mistake.
Warren Hastings Miller, a follower of Kephart and of Nessmuk when woodcraft in America was seeing a resurgence in camping & outdoorsmanship with Fords being made affordable to the common man allowing the industrial agers to get away into the woods for weekends wrote one of my favorite works called precisely that: "Camp Craft".
All hunters are campers, but not all campers are hunters (especially in this day and age).
There's a difference between a woodsman and a recreational camper and Horace Kephart defines the woodsman perfectly.
The recreational camper can live comfortably in the woods so long as their provisions last them. Then they pack up and go home.
The woodsman can thrive in the woods because he can actually literally live off the land indefinitely.
Every camper & woodsman should read Miller's "Camp Craft". It's a history lesson.
Miller, like Buzzacott, doesn't get the attention that Kephart and Nessmuk do, and that's a shame as there's a lot both have given to us. Thanks for watching!
Being an old woodsman and hunter , is far more enjoyable than "bushcrafting".
Thanks for your video and all the best.
Sarge, Thanks for sharing your Wisdom and Setting the Record Straight. Happy Trails and Be Safe!
Thanks for watching! Always good to hear from you.
Well, in 1910 thru even though the 1980s, everyone knew how to make fire. As a boy scout, you had to know your basics early . Fire making and cooking or just eating out of a can everyone knew . If you went hiking, scouts knew comfortable shoes, the proper uniform to wear, and what to take as food on the weekend hike. Now everyone wants to toss a mre into a bag and hit the trail. My father and our scout masters ,were from the ww-2 era they knew how to survive in the field. Do more with less. You don't need 15 ways to make fire one or 2 reliable ways will do. I don't need to lug a ham radio in the field for what? I am trying to get away from that crap. Oh, the knife crazy people ,how many do you need ? One or 2 will do. Just know how to use your knife. When your in the field, do the sensible thing don't go over the top. Enjoy your surroundings, and don't be the gun store commando that people laugh at. There is a time and place for everything. Know when to prep and know when to survive and know when to have fun. Cheers.
We're on the same page. Authenticity provides us with the discipline that we all need to stay focused, and that's pretty much what Classic Camping is all about.
Thanks for watching!
@sargevining I gotta tell you , great channel. I believe we are all campers,hikers,fishermen, and hunters. Enjoy the outdoors!
I believe you have hit your mark! I enjoyed your explanation thoroughly!!!
Hello, I'm an old guy (64) who's still trying to be a boy scout, I camp and practice modern bushcraft. I don't especially gravitate to "primitive bushcraft", I don't really like carving spoons and cups, nor do I care for basket weaving even though I have learned both. I am a fan of Horace Kephart, an educated worldly fellow who lived alone in the Appalachian mountains and wrote articles and books for a living, a true woodsman AND a professional camper, hence, his book, "Camping and Woodcraft". It is my opinion that Kephart forgot more about buscraft than most bushcrafters ever learned. The biggest lesson that I took away from Kepharts book was that it is necessary for the men he was speaking to ( the men coming out of the cities to vacation in the woods, the campers) to learn the survival skills needed to be comfortable and safe while on a camping trip, and also make use of some of the days modern conveniences inspired by the military and campers that came before him. Regardless of whether you consider yourself a camper, bushcrafter, or woodcrafter, as long as folks head to the woods, they all win.
Well said, Sarge. Personally, I don't care if it is called Bushcraft, Campcraft, Classic Camping, or any other label. It's all about the over-all experience. I love going on solo backcountry camping trips because I am confident, comfortable, and competent with "old fashioned" skills, tools, and equipment. That's my joy. Someone else might find their joy in a different style of camping, and that's okay. No matter what you call it, if it gets you out into the woods, gives you a sense of contentment, and soothes your soul, it's all good.
Just happened across your channel …
I appreciate your message here, as well as your intelligent, respectful way of conveying your thoughts to others. I believe Campcraft and Bushcraft are kindred, but not the same. They can however, compliment one another.
And living history events are an excellent way to inspire and educate others, share ideas, broaden one’s skill set; all while honoring and preserving our collective past.
Thank you for posting this video. Best to you from rural Indiana.
Perfectly said. You can be my spokesman anytime! Thanks for watching!
Everyone is a teacher and everyone is a student. Excellent concept and true in all of life.
Thanks! And thanks for watching! Hope you enjoy what you find here.
Everybody's a student and instructor. Simply said teach what you know while learning from others.
Correct. If everybody goes home knowing something that they didn't before they got there, the event is a success.
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I enjoy your content and want to leave a comment to boost your algorithm. I just don't know what to think about all this. I've been camping, hiking and backpacking since the early 60s. Never thought much about the how's, whys and wherefores, just pack out what I pack in.
I hope everyone is having fun.
Thanks for watching and the algorithm boost! We are having fun, and hope we can get some other folks to come have fun with us.
Interesting. I honestly don't care for the trend that everything has to have a name and fit into a category. I backpack with a modern lightweight pack and sleeping bag, but I baton firewood with my grandfathers 90 year old knife, often start my fires with a bow drill, and run water through a charcoal and sand filter.. Am I modern camping or bushcrafting? It's all good if you're getting out and doing it, and it's all a little bit intertwined anyway. Cool video as always sir.
I agree. I sometimes get weary of it all, especially when someone says "That's not (insert term here)!". OTOH, we have to have a way of letting folks know that we're doing something different that they might enjoy.
Thanks for watching!
TOMATO, TOMAAHTO. Well said Sarge. I concur with you and @ROE1300 below. To tell you the truth, many Bushcraft Channels are fan boys of another Bushcraft Channel and just regurgitate talking points, Gear you must have in your Haversack, name brand saw's/knives, and the latest gidgets & gadgdets etc. And good for them, enjoy yourselves. I use a 80/20 of Old MILSURP and some new gear. I want to respect living the history of the era, but I do want these 67 year old bones to be comfortable. Keep up the great videos and Philosophy.
Except Bushcraft is originally a British English word. The American equivalent word would be a woodsman. Kephart and Nessmuk were practicing woodscraft and campcraft as woodsman.
Bushcraft in American English is an early 2000’s term to really differentiate from the militia styled survivalist training that was popular in the 1980’s that was basically playing Rambo sewing up cuts with the gear in their hollow handled knives.
Yes. One of the things we're trying to avoid is the kind of bastardization that happened to Bushcraft. Everybody has their own definition of the word. Thanks for watching!
@@sargeviningI enjoy well thought out discussions. Unfortunately there are some that have given preparation a black eye over the years.
Interesting conversation and perspective. No matter how you tag them. keeping outdoor skills alive is the goal. We have generations of youth that haven't spent one afternoon, let alone one night out in open spaces, around a campfire and thats a shame.
Yes, and there's a possibility that this "old timey" thing might get some younger folks more interested in getting outside where the cheap Walmart crap or expensive Ultra-Lite gear won't.
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Well explaind, sir! Thnak you!
Thanks for watching! Hope to see you out on the trail!
👍👍👍 .. well said 😊.
'Campcraft' is an appropriate label for that what you are trying to articulate.
I see Outdoor Activities .. Hunting, Fishing, Camping, Hiking / Backpacking, 'Being and doing stuff in the Woods', Rock Climbing, 'Survivalism' etc, etc, as being each on it's own, a 'Craft'.
However, not in isolation, as in each, there are activities and skills that 'cross-pollinate' to a greater or lesser extent, across all of the above-mentioned Disciplines and more.
Nostalgia / 'how it was done back then' is relative. How we do things today, 50 years hence, will be looked back at by some, with nostalgia and with the urge to 'do it just like that'.
We evolve .. and for better or worse (fortunately generally, the 'worse' tends to 'Darwin' itself out of the picture 😏), so does our methodology and equipment .. bearing in mind, the gear available back in the 30's and it's application, was the best, at the time, that they had at their disposal.
I am not dissing the 'tradionalists' .. being one myself (Baby Boomer, YOB 1950) and I still have, and use, gear from the 1960's and 70's, having decided that it still does the job to my satisfaction, is paid for and I have no hankering (or depth of pocket) to replace it with new 'stuff'.
Many of us think about, reminisce over and long for 'back then' .. I do 😔😏.
Yes, Life was simpler then .. although, with the technology that we have at our disposal today, perhaps not 'easier' .. 'easy' in this instance, being used very subjectively.
Simple vs Easy .. I'll settle for Simple .. thanks.
Thank you for sharing. Great 'food for thought' .. thereby my nostalgic ramble 🙄 😏.
Until next time then .. take care ..
The thing I enjoy the most about "going camping 100 years ago" is that it really feels like camping to me. There's just enough challenge, and just enough comfort. Thanks for watching!
Good analogy.
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Loved your comments, as there is such a broad history to this subject. I often describe this as camp craft and scouting type activities. Reality the true bushcraft as described by modern man could do much worse than to study our Voyagers of the fur trapping error in the Canadian wilderness up to and include the hobo error of expanding railroads and travel during that transition from horse and buggy to motorvehicle.
Yes. As far as Living History and camping goes, late 18th Century is covered well by Living Historians and many Bushcrafters. The big gap in the History time line, as I see it, is the 20th Century. Its just getting old enough to be of interest to folks interested in History.
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Who cares? Only those at the head of the industry they prefer to call bushcraft. In reality, it is more about money in their pockets by promoting the latest. greatest, and most expensive gear. Go to Walmart, or thrift stores, get an outfit on a budget...then go enjoy camping free from the worry that you will be facing a huge credit card bill for the cost of your gear. Remember, we are living proof that humans managed to survive without the guidance and approval of these self appointed "experts"...
I agree, but what we're doing is taking it a step further and only allowing ourselves what was available to campers and backpackers 100 years ago.
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I dare say these constant refinements of previous refinements are motivated by the need to continually crank out content on rigid schedules. However given that America now produces mass swaths of generations who reach adulthood with few practical skills it’s probably a good thing that so many outdoors youtubers inflict the level of demand for new content upon themselves that they do. As far as the squabbling over refining previous refinements? I’m afraid that falls under the category of more people click on terse “controversy” than do on pleasant low level information. In the 21st Century world of social media people absolutely love watching others fight while they gorge on frankenfood and loaf around in rooms where someone needs to open a window
Dave won't make anything off guys using vintage gear, used gear. Dave started out pretty well, but morphed into just another guy flogging off his merchandiser. He may not even see his own slide. At this stage, he is just one step away from selling clothing.
Campcraft is no gem either. I have come on to too many old camp sites, with rotting, crude furniture, brittle flaking, sunburned tarps, a ring of blackened stones, and stumps of chopped down trees. "Leave no trace" has been around a long time. That is the ethic I choose.
Leave No Trace is probably the main reason we want modern backpackers to join in on the fun. That's one of the things they can teach in the "everybody is a student, everybody is an instructor" ethics of the thing. Thanks for weatching!
Unless you are trying to specifically present yourself as a single authentic example of a time period or style of camping or military example for educational purposes, I don’t care what you call it. I also don’t care what people think of me. I ( like a majority I believe) just want to go out in the woods. I can start a flint and steel fire, I also carry a titanium Grayl water filter. I use a WW2 tent, and carry a Kephart style knife. Why? Because those tools are what make me happy when I use them. I practice different fire starting, plant craft, wood crafting, and more while in the woods. I am not trying to recreate any specific period in time. I think the issue is that we are getting reenactment confused with practicing “bushcraft” as way to exist and thrive outdoors. I do get tired of every hobby I’ve ever been involved in trying to pigeonhole everyone into one category or the other with labels and controversies.
Yes, we're trying to avoid the confusion some folks might have about a Living History discipline that uses classic Bushcraft and modern Bushcraft. But everybody should pursue happiness the way that makes them happiest.
Thanks for watching!
Whatever floats yer boat. Yup.
In backpacking and in hammock camping we call it HYOH. Thats either Hike Your Own Hike or Hang Your Own Hang.
Pursue happiness any way you want as long as it doesn't interfere with somebody else's pursuit of happiness.
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Haven't seen the video yet, but I hope this is something constructive and not some kind of beef/drama, since you both guys are like the cool uncles I've never had.
This community is always so nice, mature and (I know this term has been bastardized and thrown a lot lately) wholesome.
Have a wonderful Sunday and week start, Sarge. God bless.
No worries. Dave and I are in the same page on this one and most other things to do with the old stuff.
Great content and well made points.
Thanks for watching! We've got more coming!
Doing living history classic camping, Indian wars, hobo and many more have similarities to bush craft as they use similar things in camps and on the march.
Yah, that's why I think Living Historians have a home here. Combine them with modern backpackers and bushcrafters and everybody goes home learning something they didn't know before they showed up.
Awesome video,
I always considered Bushcraft or What i thought it was, or is,
Is all of the things you were describing BUT
Also taking things principles, like cover, cooking cordage, pan/pot ect
and equipment from the past, but using things in the present newer tech ALONG with wood craft to be both.
In the end , the end result justifying the means.
When using more of nature to thrive instead of more equipment for survival in the woods.
It seems to me that Bushcraft has become something that means something different to everybody who does it. One of the things we'd like to do is not get to that place.
Thanks for watching!
Agreed. If they knew woodcraft we wouldn't have needed the scouting movement. That was it's purpose originally. There is one area that all groups fall victim to is using original equipment to much. It really needs to be reproduction. Let me explain my trail of thought. I like to see the original stuff and if it's usuable use it until a reproduction item comes along. In 2025 if I use an item from 1925, really it is like in 1925 using an item from 1825. It needs the newness for others to see as well as you to break it in and modify it to suit you. I feel that is what you are finding out with the Miller pack. If you had an original Miller you wouldn't want to touch it. I have a tendency to buy an old one that needs to be patched and can be modified. It is what they would have done. A hole would be patched and if something isn't the way they wanted it, then they changed it. They could rarely buy exactly what they wanted and it likely wasn't great right out of the box. If you want to demonstrait tools then they should be restored to fairly new condition. An old tool from the period I might pick up for less than $1 and if you look at the original catalog it might have cost a couple of dollars. Two dollars to the average guy back then was a lot so he took really good care of it. Doesn't mean he wouldn't modify it a bit.
Yah, all Living History/Reenacting disciplines started out using original gear. People blanch when they're told that when Reenacting started in the 1960s it was to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Civil War and folks were using original gear and uniforms. We're starting to see more reproductions coming out now, the principal need is in tents and sleeping bags, although there are some pretty good campcraft solutions using wool and canvas.
@@sargevining I remember the old stuff and one of my favorite things as a youngster would be when I got my hands on the catalog from I think the company was out of Tennesee that had gear for from the long hunter through the Civil War. Can't remember the name any more. When I was in to the Indian Wars and Cowboy Mounted Shooting I was friends with a saddle maker. He made period saddles as well as McClellan saddles. Even then people would bring in an old McClellan. He would tell them he could fix it so that it was a nice display piece and that was all it was good for. You had people wanting to use the original or the guys that thought 1950s westerns were real. In the 1950s you could still get and use original gear. Not to practicle today. Movie industry did it. Even then they would use WW1 saddles because in black and white the fact the saddle was brown didn't matter.
@@57WillysCJDixie Gun Works, Union City, Tennessee?
@@HistoryOnTheLoose Yes, thanks. Totally slipped my mind when I went to type it down.
How about everyone just go and do their own thing and call it whatever they want.
The thing we're trying to do here is define our thing before other people do--and do it incorrectly or disparagingly. Somebody has called Classic Camping "glamping". I think you've been around the channel long enough that you know that's not the case. We know that there are folks out there that want to do this thing, and we want to make sure they can find who and where they can go to get the best information and events to attend.
Let's not forget Australian Bush Camping 😉 Look up, Joseph Jenkins, Jolly Swagman
I believe that's where the "bush" in Bushcrafting comes from. Thanks for watching!
This was very good.
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Why does there have 2 b names 4 gettin n the woods w no worries n having fun ? 🤔
Thanks for watching! Doing our own thing is exactly what we're doing. We just want something that tells people what that thing is so that the folks who want to do the same thing know where to go.
@@sargevining i gotcha now ..hitting the subscribe button soon as i send this . Have a great day n no worries from central va. !
I agree.😃👍 Good video!
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Go into a old time, second hand bookstore
. You will discover a generational succession of writers from the original Tom Brown from England, known as Grey Eagle in Canada to Angier and Whelen, the late Dave Alloway and Greg Davenport to toss out a few. Sorry, but Nessmuck and Kephart aint the be all, end all of our elders. And separating from active duty like many of us and elbowing up to the table for a piece of the RUclips pie
With an smazon account, duplicating tutorials or Moses coming down the mountain with 10 Cs does not elevate you to the priesthood making ferro rod fire with all the gravitas if holy communion.
Wish that more folks would wander into second hand book stores----
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Human beings will fall out about anything! It doesn’t matter what topic it is at all! Camp Craft is a very appropriate name to call bushcraft/camp-craft. I believe you should use items that are available to you in order to make your camping experience more comfortable and fun. It was cutting edge gear people used back in the day anyway for them at the time. 😂 I’m glad you addressed this issue. Thank you.😊
Who cares? Just get out there and enjoy nature in whatever way you like. I could care less what you call it or what equipment you prefer to use while doing it. Just get out and do it.
Thanks for watching! Doing our own thing is exactly what we're doing. We just want something that tells people what that thing is so that the folks who want to do the same thing know where to go.
Who cares, like arguing over politics and religion! Get out in the fresh air, no matter how..........
Most of the immigrants coming to this country in the late 19th and early 20th centuries did so to escape the squalor of European cities. Ironically, a significant number of them ended up in the squalor of American cities----
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