They both sound amazing, I think to my ears the Morel sound is more appealing - but I can absolutely see the appeal of the Focal too. Truly seems like one of those rare cases where either option is perfect.
Funny we sell both at my store and as I listen to both companies more and more. I like the focal. Focal seems to get louder and clearer the more you play them
I just listened to a comparison on RUclips between focal and hertz. While both sounded good in their own way I think as far as clear vocals focal was the winner. I currently have infinity Kappa series but I might try focal next time.
@@jamesstephenson2346 the kappas aren’t bad and actually sound great especially on acoustic or real instrument type music. Idk if they would be as good as those but they are definitely better than your typical pioneer,kicker etc speakers. Infinity isn’t what they used be to be either. I’d just like to see if something sounds better far as vocals,soundstage etc.
Both manufacturers are great & arguably make some of the best speakers on the market, but we are comparing with different source & in different vehicles, so even identical make/model in each vehicle would sound different (different amp power, different EQ, different vehicle reflections, different sound dampening. different crossover etc). I run Focal, but I have heard Morel's many times & they are equally excellent.
Thanks for this. I have Focal in my E93 now (integration series) and I don't like the sound. Found out Morel makes an integration series that's more expensive. Will definitely be checking those out.
Focal are great in my experience I think they are bit to flat. They are very crisp and have a detail that other brands can’t match but they are way to flat because they lack mid base and lower growl you what I’m saying. I had focal flax in my truck and replaced them for audiofrog gb and they sound is fuller with more bass and more mids. I know I lost a bit of detail but I like the fuller sound better
I had morel car speakers, components 6.5inch and 6x9 coaxials in mk3 golf, was really impressed with sound quality and power. Very good quality speakers, was well happy with what I had at the time.
I’ve heard both I on that exact set of Focals and matching rears. If you want more laid back sound and natural= Morel. Forward and alive sound Focal. At this level it’s personal preference.
@@Balgaz_speed yup, I’m still shocked the quality of the sound. HDZ-653 by far the best I’ve heard for that price point. I like the tweeter setup better then the usual 1” dome. Alpine tweeters look like 2” and sound clear at high volume unlike most tweeted.
Morel Ultra sounds too harsh to me. I have it installed on my Innova it lacks details when I turn down the treble. But Focal Auditor that I have installed in my Ignis doesn't loose out on details if I turn down the treble. Head units are factory unit in both. Kindly suggest to improve listening experience of Morel
YOU KNOW GUYS THIS CHALLENGE ISN'T CORRECT!!!! TO BE A FAIR CHALLENGE YOU KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME CAR SAME AMPS SAME DSP WITH THE SAME PERSON TUNING THE CAR'S AND THEN IT WOULD BE A FAIR CHALLENGE!!!!! AND THE PEOPLE STATING WHO SOUNDS THE BEST OVER THE INTERNET ARE JUST STATING WHO THEY WOULD PICK PRODUCTS WISE!!! CAUSE EVEN IF THEY HAD A $1000.000 SYSTEM THEY COULD NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EITHER ONE OVER RUclips UNLESS THEY HAD DETERMINE RUclips BIT RATES AND THEN DETUNE IT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINE BY INDEPENDENT PEOPLE WALKING BY IN YOUR VIDEO AND ASK THEM TO LISTEN TO THEM BOTH USING SAME MUSIC IN BOTH THEN LET THEM SECRETLY POST THERE VOTES AND WHEN YOU GET A EVEN NUMBER OF PEOPLE UNVEIL THE POST!!!! THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE!
The systems were both tuned and installed by the same shop. Both cars have the same DSP. You have a point there when it comes to the same vehicles, but these guys are a couple of my best customers. None of it was planned.
The Focal's are bright bright and the Morel sounded full and better balanced, and that's with the guy saying the Focal bass was heavy (I love bass, so I'd never agree with such feedback :-P). I also give it up to the BMW because the stock 4" locations suck.
Focal has different lines. These are brighter and require dsp tuning (as all good stereos should be). Focal is absolutely known for excellent midbass, so hes right on, i guarantee. Morel tends to be lifeless, although some certainly call it "laid back".
@@Balgaz_speed thank you. So that is a fair comparison. I'll have to rewatch the video but the BMW with Focal killed it. The Toyota was good as well, but just wasn't quite there for me. I'm sure if i could hear them in person it might be a different story.
The Morels sound WAY better. You can tell by how full the recording is. The Focals sound thin and bright while the Morels sound full and balanced. However this is limited by the recording of the video and there are so many other aspects to consider like EQ, placement, door treatment, etc. etc. It cant be a full comparison until all things are equal.
Interesting, in this example, I prefer the Focal, tighter bass, and good top end clarity. I like the Morel mids better, but the mid bass is bloomy and loose. The top end lacks enough top end clarity for me (and my preference usually leans to less bright speakers...for instance, I've demoed JL and Focal side by side, and preferred the JL every time for more balanced sound).
The question will be and has always been, which company manufactures the most sonically capable product that can create and produce the most accurate and replicable frequencies through the ENTIRE range of human hearing. The comment of “it depends on the music you prefer” is ridiculous. As that can be tailed within the DSP to suite. Every speaker created tries to do this the best. So which ones can accomplish this the best? In my opinion that currently gos to the JL Audio C7’s. From 20Hz to 20,000Hz there isn’t a better speaker system. I feel Focal is right there with the C7’s, until the bridge between miss and highs comes into play. I feel their teeters are too bright and there is a gap where the mids tailer off too early and the highs begin too high. This isn’t a digital sound correction issue as much as the way the speaker themselves are engineered. Morel is outstanding and in my opinion the model supremo’s are also right there as one of the best. However I find the expense isn’t justified within the lows to mids while agreeing the piccolo is the best tweeter on Earth. But the wide range of the tweeter isn’t necessary if you have the mids doing the job correctly. But in all reality this is splitting hairs here. JLC7’s Focal Utopia or K series, and Morel Supremo are the 3 best speaker systems money can buy. The JL’s are an active system and do not have crossovers. They will need a dsp no matter what to handle the crossover points and frequency separation duties. Fine by me, as JL has an Amp line that has their DSP built into the amp with all the software. One stop shopping at its finest. The JL Audio C7 3 way system with their Amp specifically meant for them, are the best car audio system ever made and honestly that’s that.
Absolutely the morels sound better in the video. Although it might sound different in real life. I had 2 sets of of focal krx some time ago, was not impressed. Dumped them for some Hertz.
I had focal Flax on my truck and they sound very clear but lacks miss big time, they sound to crisp but to flat. I replaced them With audiofrog gbs 3 way and they so perfect
They both sound amazing, I think to my ears the Morel sound is more appealing - but I can absolutely see the appeal of the Focal too. Truly seems like one of those rare cases where either option is perfect.
Morel sound so much warmer!!! Amazingggg
Funny we sell both at my store and as I listen to both companies more and more. I like the focal. Focal seems to get louder and clearer the more you play them
I just listened to a comparison on RUclips between focal and hertz. While both sounded good in their own way I think as far as clear vocals focal was the winner. I currently have infinity Kappa series but I might try focal next time.
@@whatfreedom7 im not going to trash your infinity speakers, but i think youll be VERY happy with focal.
@@jamesstephenson2346 the kappas aren’t bad and actually sound great especially on acoustic or real instrument type music. Idk if they would be as good as those but they are definitely better than your typical pioneer,kicker etc speakers. Infinity isn’t what they used be to be either. I’d just like to see if something sounds better far as vocals,soundstage etc.
@@jamesstephenson2346 Infinity Kappas sound incredible! I'm not saying that they're better, but I heard a kappa system and it sounded amazing.
They both sound really good.
Both manufacturers are great & arguably make some of the best speakers on the market, but we are comparing with different source & in different vehicles, so even identical make/model in each vehicle would sound different (different amp power, different EQ, different vehicle reflections, different sound dampening. different crossover etc).
I run Focal, but I have heard Morel's many times & they are equally excellent.
Confirms my decision to go with Morel
Both sound awesome, but my ears like the Morel setup better.🔥🔥🔥Wondering the subwoofer setup too, love it.
I use to have Focal Utopia and Seas Lotus in my car. I wonder how Morel compares to SEAS?
they both sound good. ive owned BOTH. Morel = laid back not as detailed sound. Focal more detail brighter sound. pick your poison.
Laid back when loud sounds better to me than brighter when played loud. Morel for me. Morel=naturally produced and Focal =dynamically reproduced
By loud do you mean unnatural sounding “Sss” I hate sharp tangerine kicks and Sharp S sounds
Here we go. Hard to decide. Must play it again!
Thanks for this. I have Focal in my E93 now (integration series) and I don't like the sound. Found out Morel makes an integration series that's more expensive. Will definitely be checking those out.
I can clearly hear the instruments in focal. Focal for me.
Focal are great in my experience I think they are bit to flat. They are very crisp and have a detail that other brands can’t match but they are way to flat because they lack mid base and lower growl you what I’m saying. I had focal flax in my truck and replaced them for audiofrog gb and they sound is fuller with more bass and more mids. I know I lost a bit of detail but I like the fuller sound better
I had morel car speakers, components 6.5inch and 6x9 coaxials in mk3 golf, was really impressed with sound quality and power. Very good quality speakers, was well happy with what I had at the time.
Just finished fabricating my A pillar pods. I see a new challenge in the horizon. My Morel CDM 880 will sound so sweet.
I’ve heard both I on that exact set of Focals and matching rears. If you want more laid back sound and natural= Morel. Forward and alive sound Focal. At this level it’s personal preference.
You should check out the Alpine Status. Just did a 3 way up front and 2 way in the rear. They’re 1k a set but the sound is perfection.
@@EvoSGooD installed a pair of Alpine Hdz-65c’s yesterday! Wow, incredible mid bass from the woofers also very clean highs.
@@Balgaz_speed yup, I’m still shocked the quality of the sound. HDZ-653 by far the best I’ve heard for that price point. I like the tweeter setup better then the usual 1” dome. Alpine tweeters look like 2” and sound clear at high volume unlike most tweeted.
@@EvoSGooDholy crap lol 1500 now
This is my secret weapon smooth and clean front stage thank you Balgaz.
You are welcome my friend.
It was fun turning the doors into a well sealed enclosure.
Rematch please
In due time my friend. Someone needs to plan a trip to Israel. Lol
Morels sound better
Morel Ultra sounds too harsh to me. I have it installed on my Innova it lacks details when I turn down the treble. But Focal Auditor that I have installed in my Ignis doesn't loose out on details if I turn down the treble.
Head units are factory unit in both. Kindly suggest to improve listening experience of Morel
More battles and comparisons please 🔥🔥
I was thinking the same thing.
My man
Appreciate you
What has more bass ?
Morel highs are miles ahead but the Focal hits those low notes with breathtaking accuracy
Great analogy!
Morel VS Focal
I love the voice
Morel vs Focal competition! Lol
Morel sounds better. It's smooth and clear.
Can I have the name of the test track please?
T-Vice. Peyi mwen.
@@Balgaz_speednow y’all got me hooked on T vice music. Thanks lol.
The utopia m mid range is in!
I need a rematch please
Heard them last night. Wow! Looks like I need an upgrade myself.
Very nice song !! What is the name of the song ?
T-Vice - 24th Anniversary Medley Vol. 2
T-vice. Peyi Men.
YOU KNOW GUYS THIS CHALLENGE ISN'T CORRECT!!!! TO BE A FAIR CHALLENGE YOU KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME CAR SAME AMPS SAME DSP WITH THE SAME PERSON TUNING THE CAR'S AND THEN IT WOULD BE A FAIR CHALLENGE!!!!! AND THE PEOPLE STATING WHO SOUNDS THE BEST OVER THE INTERNET ARE JUST STATING WHO THEY WOULD PICK PRODUCTS WISE!!! CAUSE EVEN IF THEY HAD A $1000.000 SYSTEM THEY COULD NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EITHER ONE OVER RUclips UNLESS THEY HAD DETERMINE RUclips BIT RATES AND THEN DETUNE IT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINE BY INDEPENDENT PEOPLE WALKING BY IN YOUR VIDEO AND ASK THEM TO LISTEN TO THEM BOTH USING SAME MUSIC IN BOTH THEN LET THEM SECRETLY POST THERE VOTES AND WHEN YOU GET A EVEN NUMBER OF PEOPLE UNVEIL THE POST!!!! THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE!
The systems were both tuned and installed by the same shop. Both cars have the same DSP. You have a point there when it comes to the same vehicles, but these guys are a couple of my best customers. None of it was planned.
I like the idea of the passerby! I will implement those changes in the next challenge. Thanks for taking the time to post your comment.
best music installer in South Florida
I appreciate the comment. Now you need to get the Durango in the bay!
Name and location of this stereo shop please
@@timothywilliams9556 Pretty sure that's Cartronics on Biscayne.
The Focal's are bright bright and the Morel sounded full and better balanced, and that's with the guy saying the Focal bass was heavy (I love bass, so I'd never agree with such feedback :-P). I also give it up to the BMW because the stock 4" locations suck.
Focal has different lines. These are brighter and require dsp tuning (as all good stereos should be). Focal is absolutely known for excellent midbass, so hes right on, i guarantee. Morel tends to be lifeless, although some certainly call it "laid back".
Wow, that sounds great
Thanks 🙏
What’s the song?
T-Vice … Peyi Mwen
what models are ea of them running? I liked the focals better but it depends on what speakers were actually used and what subs
Focal ES 165 KX3 K2 Power 6.5” vs Morel Hybrid MKII.
@@Balgaz_speed thank you. So that is a fair comparison.
I'll have to rewatch the video but the BMW with Focal killed it. The Toyota was good as well, but just wasn't quite there for me.
I'm sure if i could hear them in person it might be a different story.
@@INFRNL1 No problem at all! As a matter of fact the BMW is getting a set of Utopia 3 1/2” Midrange this weekend.
What sub was playing with the focals
Skar 10” woofer
@@Balgaz_speed Ported or sealed?
@@GT_SIMRACER sealed 10” Woofer.
@@Balgaz_speed Thank you
@@GT_SIMRACER Anytime!
To me the Focals were brighter than the Morals. And the Morels midbass was better.
The Morels sound WAY better. You can tell by how full the recording is. The Focals sound thin and bright while the Morels sound full and balanced. However this is limited by the recording of the video and there are so many other aspects to consider like EQ, placement, door treatment, etc. etc. It cant be a full comparison until all things are equal.
Well to be honest the BMW was not really ready that day. With a loaner JVC entry level Head unit. Next time I will definitely bring out the RTA.
I do not agree at all. The focal has a much brighter, clear and detailed sound.
@@1999-r2d Editing the rematch right now. Should be uploaded in a few days.
@@1999-r2d it doesn't. Morel sounds way better. It's way more smooth and clear.
@@shermigz Then we have different opinions ig🤷🏻
Morel Elate? I suppose you can push till its limit by powering its midwoofer at least 200W.
That would be a spectacular upgrade for the Tundra!
Focal is more clear and have more bass but morel is warmer and sweeter to hear
title of the song please :)
ruclips.net/video/ThqQu8xg4Vc/видео.html
Focals for me.
Interesting, in this example, I prefer the Focal, tighter bass, and good top end clarity. I like the Morel mids better, but the mid bass is bloomy and loose. The top end lacks enough top end clarity for me (and my preference usually leans to less bright speakers...for instance, I've demoed JL and Focal side by side, and preferred the JL every time for more balanced sound).
I think the sounds was clear for me.
the BMW brings focal sound?
No. That was a custom install.
focal for the WINNER!!!
We will see the outcome very soon ,,,,
The sound was great Kito you have to include the other car good job 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Which other cars my friend? Where can I go? I want to showcase mine too.
No problem! Just tell me the time and the place.
Ok I let you know
It’s the focals for me 💯😅
I am a Morel guy myself.
What king of set-up are you running?
@@Balgaz_speed Morel elate.
@@plexserprophete3072 Ok! Interesting!
Are the Morels 3way or 2 way?
Man that old school cat 🐈 had them tuned JUST right …. Sounded very well balanced
3 Way Morel Hybrid MKII.
The question will be and has always been, which company manufactures the most sonically capable product that can create and produce the most accurate and replicable frequencies through the ENTIRE range of human hearing. The comment of “it depends on the music you prefer” is ridiculous. As that can be tailed within the DSP to suite. Every speaker created tries to do this the best. So which ones can accomplish this the best? In my opinion that currently gos to the JL Audio C7’s. From 20Hz to 20,000Hz there isn’t a better speaker system. I feel Focal is right there with the C7’s, until the bridge between miss and highs comes into play. I feel their teeters are too bright and there is a gap where the mids tailer off too early and the highs begin too high. This isn’t a digital sound correction issue as much as the way the speaker themselves are engineered. Morel is outstanding and in my opinion the model supremo’s are also right there as one of the best. However I find the expense isn’t justified within the lows to mids while agreeing the piccolo is the best tweeter on Earth. But the wide range of the tweeter isn’t necessary if you have the mids doing the job correctly. But in all reality this is splitting hairs here. JLC7’s Focal Utopia or K series, and Morel Supremo are the 3 best speaker systems money can buy. The JL’s are an active system and do not have crossovers. They will need a dsp no matter what to handle the crossover points and frequency separation duties. Fine by me, as JL has an Amp line that has their DSP built into the amp with all the software. One stop shopping at its finest. The JL Audio C7 3 way system with their Amp specifically meant for them, are the best car audio system ever made and honestly that’s that.
Absolutely the morels sound better in the video. Although it might sound different in real life.
I had 2 sets of of focal krx some time ago, was not impressed. Dumped them for some Hertz.
Thanks for sharing!
Sound more natural, alive and Clean
Funny how the focal sound better even though my note 20 speakers😅
Man they both sound great, nice and clear/clean....BMW for me though 👌👍💯
Thanks for the sub!
Before even watching video I knew Morel wound win!
Morel
Got dam, they sound good…. 🙌🏼🔊🔊
3 Way Morel hybrid MKII.
@@Balgaz_speed Morel hybrid MKII baby!
@@plexserprophete3072 Is that your Toyota?
I like it
Focal all day
He has nothing on on the focal
He has everything on the overly bright and harsh focals.
Morel catch up
I wonder who that is?
Thanks a lot for the support!
@@karlbishop7143 lol
The guy with the baddest system in south Florida
@garlens elie lol. Wish I could install some focal Utopia like you.
The owner of the Tundra is so funny.
You have no idea! This guy will make you die of laughter if you give him a chance.
@@Balgaz_speed We will see ...
my ear drums and focal dont mix
My focal sound better
Focal
A rematch is in the works.
@@Balgaz_speed nice I have the
Focal PS 165 V1 Expert Components they are clean and loud 🔊
@@joegarcia6276 Maybe you can join in the rematch!
Utopia m coming soon
Oh boy! You are getting ready for round two. By the way your radio was just delivered.
@@Balgaz_speed that’s great news
Be there tomorrow!!
👍🏽✅
@@garlenselie9835 Ok no problem. Let the games begin!
Audiofrog beats both of them
Maybe so!
@@Balgaz_speed I listened to morel 3 way and audiofrog 3 way and focal 3 way and audiofrog was incredible
@@lagunacorona Great! I have yet to experience the realism of the Audiofrog speakers. Hopefully in the near future that will change.
U fanny audiofrog made in China jaja
@@valecasillas5729 lo que sea compa, esas bosinas suenan chingonometrico
I had focal
Flax on my truck and they sound very clear but lacks miss big time, they sound to crisp but to flat. I replaced them
With audiofrog gbs 3 way and they so perfect
Hey guys the rematch is up
Go watch
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Rematch!
афигенно они слушают с открытыми дверями и опущенными стёклами))))) клоуны))