Everywhere I go, even in adoration, it’s so loud. The door and people’s phone or their praying in low voice with no consideration to those around; thus lacking charity. People talking during mass especially when the consecration is about to start. There are so many people everywhere I turn. I feel the noise within their souls. I’m exhausted by the end of the day feeling the weight of society.
Absolutely. Even relative silence is difficult to attain. It's worthwhile knowing that in the introduction, Cardinal Sarah talks about how 'the noise is in ourselves' too.
Even in TLM, there's a lot of noise. It's impossible to obtain full silence in a crowd with the phones, the sneeze, cough, kids, late arrival, etc. If your church is full of little noise it's because it's full of life. Don't think of it as people lacking charity, although sometime it's true, because one day you will be the famous idiot that forgot to turn off your phone and then what. Forgive others as you would like to be forgiven when you make a mistake. Silence does happen but when it's noisy and it's getting to you just think of it as a cross you carry for the glory of God and the increase of your virtue. It is also a good exercise to improve focus and fight off distractions during prayer.
Many congregations have put up with the chatter in Church it has become a fact of life in the Church - 'charity' has been used too frequently to belong to get along. HELP!
I used to attend the Mass everyday since childhood. But since I started to attend the Traditional Latin Mass. I learn to worship God in a proper manner and my spiritual life develop more. Let us pray that the Traditional Latin Mass will be celebrate all over the world. Viva Cristo Rey!❤
So good. I couldn’t become silent for so many years until the Lord one day allowed me to become silent!! I love silence so much probably because I couldn’t find silence for so long.
"In trials and tribulations remember CHRIST crucified and be silent. What we need most in order to make progress is to be silent before this great GOD with our appetite and with our tongue, for the language he best hears is silent love" (& tears) - St. John of the Cross The Heart of the matter is truly a matter of Heart. To all little/big heads, the mirror is very convicting !!
I wished there was no "background soundtrack" being sung during the ofertory. The same while we were in line to and right after we receive communion. Even during "adoration" there's a guy narrating what we can be praying for, like if it is some "pentecostal" service. Unfortunately there's no Latin Mass in my archdiocese and I've never been to one, but, by what people describe, I CRAVE for it. The best I could ever have was a NO mass in a convent. The friars are used to silence and very few laypeople were there, at least when I visited. I had a great silent half-hour in front of Christ in the Holy Eucharist that day, and then a quiet mass, even though it was NO.
Perhaps so, but our focus in liturgy is different than that of dedicated meditation. Meditations is only a portion of the ritual action required of us (e.g., praise, repentance, etc.) Having attended TLM and of course NO, I find that either done reverently is supreme for spiritual fulfilment.
Not Catholic.. please check this ..eg Dan Burke , the Avila institute... it's actually dangerous to ' empty ' your mind that way .. not my words . I was a keen practitioner .. I just learnt otherwise ..
With all appropriate respect for human life: Neither Rev Thomas Keating nor Rev Thomas Merton will get anyone home with the surest, most direct road...
@@jojackson1573 The world is not without risk. Same goes for prayer. Prayer in the wrong place will get you thrown in jail in certain parts of this world. Will you dare to make space for God around and in your heart? Will you take God with you as you go about your day?
I understand the importance of silence, but not everyone has the same concept. We speak of "love they neighbor(s)" but cone to adoration or even church with crying fussing children/younger children using the back of church to play or running in the back, etc. In our church, the adoration is done in our chapel with certain days having confessions. Someone has recommended I see if their is another time that might work better. I was taught to behave because you're in God's house & if I wasn't, I was removed. Not in todays world & church. I often feel my adoration time has been lost because of the lack of silence in church has been taken away. One can't help not hearing this in the main church with 4 quit rooms not being used.
As a priest my attitude is a bit different. Silence is a matter of the heart as much as it is a matter of our circumstances Children don't learn silence unless they are taught in an environment that demands it. Likewise, the liturgy itself is what we give to God, so expecting silence, necessarily, can come from an attitude of 'what do I get out of it?' I'm not criticizing your position, and I understand. I would just say people's phones going off are a lot more 'silence breaking' than children crying or moving around.
Indeed church is not a playground for children for many parents don't learn their children to be quiet and calm during holy mass. It is very irritating to follow holy mass with children running around.
Indeed. I think guided meditation (e.g., reading scripture or something spiritual) can accompany silence. Genuine silence, however, is very, very difficult.
As everyone knows, Mass attendance is down. A child making noise represents at least 3 people - while the little old lady complaining of the noise will be gone forever in a manner of years.
No. Mass attendance is UP in many locations - vocations are burgeoning and new churches are reverently being built.... It depends upon where you go to Mass.
Good morning and good afternoon sir adjust in my self this time in my mind very tried and my situation is not easy single parent hanap din Ako nag makain for my son's I'm sorry for my miestick every day incuonter Man or woman sorry for this time sir always understand sir I tell you Sir long time sucrefaes suffer anak ko iniwan Ng kanyang mother's My stuatuion it's not easy single parent survive any situation sucrefaes always understand expected almost okie sorry shering a I'm understand I tell iba only one dumating sA ganitong stuatuion patawad salahat Kong ano man Ang inisip sorry 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏✌️✌️✌️🕊️🕊️
I'm a widow now, and God has giving me silence...the trees, wind, nature His glory...He calls me into mystical silence....
I'm sorry for your loss. There is a peace in the beauty of nature.
Everywhere I go, even in adoration, it’s so loud. The door and people’s phone or their praying in low voice with no consideration to those around; thus lacking charity. People talking during mass especially when the consecration is about to start. There are so many people everywhere I turn. I feel the noise within their souls. I’m exhausted by the end of the day feeling the weight of society.
Absolutely. Even relative silence is difficult to attain. It's worthwhile knowing that in the introduction, Cardinal Sarah talks about how 'the noise is in ourselves' too.
If you go to a traditional Catholic Mass you will find silence
Even in TLM, there's a lot of noise.
It's impossible to obtain full silence in a crowd with the phones, the sneeze, cough, kids, late arrival, etc. If your church is full of little noise it's because it's full of life.
Don't think of it as people lacking charity, although sometime it's true, because one day you will be the famous idiot that forgot to turn off your phone and then what. Forgive others as you would like to be forgiven when you make a mistake.
Silence does happen but when it's noisy and it's getting to you just think of it as a cross you carry for the glory of God and the increase of your virtue. It is also a good exercise to improve focus and fight off distractions during prayer.
Many congregations have put up with the chatter in Church it has become a fact of life in the Church - 'charity' has been used too frequently to belong to get along. HELP!
I used to attend the Mass everyday since childhood. But since I started to attend the Traditional Latin Mass. I learn to worship God in a proper manner and my spiritual life develop more. Let us pray that the Traditional Latin Mass will be celebrate all over the world.
Viva Cristo Rey!❤
So good. I couldn’t become silent for so many years until the Lord one day allowed me to become silent!! I love silence so much probably because I couldn’t find silence for so long.
Tridentine Latin Mass all the way......
Amen 🙏🏾
"In trials and tribulations remember CHRIST crucified and be silent. What we need most in order to make progress is to be silent before this great GOD with our appetite and with our tongue, for the language he best hears is silent love" (& tears)
- St. John of the Cross
The Heart of the matter is truly a matter of Heart. To all little/big heads, the mirror is very convicting !!
Amen, Cardinal Sarah, Thank you 🙏🏾♥️
Thank God I’m not alone in the silence.
I wished there was no "background soundtrack" being sung during the ofertory. The same while we were in line to and right after we receive communion. Even during "adoration" there's a guy narrating what we can be praying for, like if it is some "pentecostal" service. Unfortunately there's no Latin Mass in my archdiocese and I've never been to one, but, by what people describe, I CRAVE for it.
The best I could ever have was a NO mass in a convent. The friars are used to silence and very few laypeople were there, at least when I visited. I had a great silent half-hour in front of Christ in the Holy Eucharist that day, and then a quiet mass, even though it was NO.
It is VERY sad that is far easier for me to meditate in my bedroom than in my parish church.
Perhaps so, but our focus in liturgy is different than that of dedicated meditation. Meditations is only a portion of the ritual action required of us (e.g., praise, repentance, etc.)
Having attended TLM and of course NO, I find that either done reverently is supreme for spiritual fulfilment.
Silence is powerful ❤
I love you all in silence in prayer.
Glory to God.
Amen!
Centering Prayer - Father Thomas Keating.
Not Catholic.. please check this ..eg Dan Burke , the Avila institute... it's actually dangerous to ' empty ' your mind that way .. not my words . I was a keen practitioner .. I just learnt otherwise ..
With all appropriate respect for human life:
Neither
Rev Thomas Keating nor Rev Thomas Merton will get anyone home with the surest, most direct road...
@@jojackson1573 The world is not without risk. Same goes for prayer. Prayer in the wrong place will get you thrown in jail in certain parts of this world. Will you dare to make space for God around and in your heart? Will you take God with you as you go about your day?
I understand the importance of silence, but not everyone has the same concept. We speak of "love they neighbor(s)" but cone to adoration or even church with crying fussing children/younger children using the back of church to play or running in the back, etc. In our church, the adoration is done in our chapel with certain days having confessions. Someone has recommended I see if their is another time that might work better. I was taught to behave because you're in God's house & if I wasn't, I was removed. Not in todays world & church. I often feel my adoration time has been lost because of the lack of silence in church has been taken away. One can't help not hearing this in the main church with 4 quit rooms not being used.
As a priest my attitude is a bit different. Silence is a matter of the heart as much as it is a matter of our circumstances
Children don't learn silence unless they are taught in an environment that demands it. Likewise, the liturgy itself is what we give to God, so expecting silence, necessarily, can come from an attitude of 'what do I get out of it?'
I'm not criticizing your position, and I understand. I would just say people's phones going off are a lot more 'silence breaking' than children crying or moving around.
Indeed church is not a playground for children for many parents don't learn their children to be quiet and calm during holy mass. It is very irritating to follow holy mass with children running around.
Even organ music is adorned silence
Indeed. I think guided meditation (e.g., reading scripture or something spiritual) can accompany silence. Genuine silence, however, is very, very difficult.
As everyone knows, Mass attendance is down. A child making noise represents at least 3 people - while the little old lady complaining of the noise will be gone forever in a manner of years.
No. Mass attendance is UP in many locations - vocations are burgeoning and new churches are reverently being built.... It depends upon where you go to Mass.
I have no Church within hours
We have Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in a hotel meeting room. Priest travels to us
Sorry for splitting up.
Once a month.
which diocese is this? Or is it technically a mission territory?
Also, I'm sure you have options, but we livestream our masses too on Sundays at 10:30am www.twitch.tv/icchicago
We are a Mission.
I do watch Mass on Sundays Priest doesn't visit.
God bless
Good morning and good afternoon sir adjust in my self this time in my mind very tried and my situation is not easy single parent hanap din Ako nag makain for my son's I'm sorry for my miestick every day incuonter Man or woman sorry for this time sir always understand sir I tell you Sir long time sucrefaes suffer anak ko iniwan Ng kanyang mother's My stuatuion it's not easy single parent survive any situation sucrefaes always understand expected almost okie sorry shering a I'm understand I tell iba only one dumating sA ganitong stuatuion patawad salahat Kong ano man Ang inisip sorry 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏✌️✌️✌️🕊️🕊️
May God bless you with the deepest desires of your ❤️ heart.
Is that anyway to talk to a furry parishioner? lol
My yard, my rules.
I think we need to get Father a statue of St. Francis of Assisi.
@@Melody-fk3qo
If you had ANY idea how devoutly strict the real Holy Francis is
..you would bite your own tongue!💯
Too much talk and twinkly music