Thank you so much for making this review. Love these video's with you. Very informative, to the point, professional. Deserves way more views! Keep it up guys!!
In the low light test, the flower next to the girl's face was more detailed on Sony @ 3200 iso and more detailed on Panasonic @ 6400 iso. Is it a slight focusing error or maybe the Panasonic sensor is one of those "dual native iso" and somewhere between 3200 and 6400 is the higher "native" one?
You guys did a great job in your review and youtube video report. It appears this will be a gret full frame Lumix Camera. The change for me will be going from Micro 4/3rds to a full frame. We shall see where this trips goes. Regardless you did and informative report about the camera's capabilities as well as it's potential and other issues. Bravo, good luck, and keep ypur reports coming. They are very much apprecaited by me. All my best!
What camera did you shoot with in this video? That strobe/judder at 4:37-4:42, is it really common to all 4K footages of all modern cameras? Happens even when complying with the 180deg rule. Does not happen in 1080.
I'm still excited for the S1. I hope the V-Log update arrives at the same time of the official release date. Personally, I'm not concerned about the AF performance. Most of the time I use MF with AF assist on my GH5. Although I can see instances where a reliable AF would be preferable. It's just not a deal breaker for me. At the moment, I'm still happy with my GH5. I've been able to capture fantastic footage with it. So, I'm happy sticking with Panasonic for now.
I have a m43 and used a FF. Trust me, you will always love the m43 but the image quality on a FF sensor is noticeably better. More DR and low light performance.
From my tests. The HLG DR is incredibly close to Vlog DR. (11.5 stops in GH5) So I think you are showing what it can do here. Regardless of no vlog yet. Thanks for info. No surprise there with contrast defect focus.
Great video! thanks for sharing your thoughts on this camera. Do you recall if you're able to use the PIP manual focus assist whilst video recording is in progress? The lack of this feature is very annoying with the GH5 and GH5s. Thanks!
Good video and analysis. 3:50 - more useful to compare usage duration rather than just battery power capacity - the S1 will draw a lot more power than say a G9.
Thanks so much for such a well done video. Very helpful. Please, if you don't mind, I have a few questions. First, I shoot non-electronic, fully manual lenses; FD, EF (Rokinon), M42, M39, etc. Primarily, I like shooting with the FD and Rokinon lenses. I am assuming I can use these lenses on the S1? Yes? I'm am unfamiliar with the L mount. Do you know what adapters are needed for the lens systems I mentioned. Next, no waveform...:-( That kind of...well, sucks. There's more...lots more, but let this suffice for the present.
Hey William, Yes these lenses will work with the correct adapters once they have been made! You can find the Novoflex adapters here - www.novoflexus.com/products/lens-adapters/for-leica-cameras/novoflex-let-co.htm they do FD, M42 & EF currently. Hope this helps, Jake
Funny error in your chart at 15:30: The numbers move up incrementally when, I'm guessing, the data was copied and pasted to the additional spreadsheet boxes. 3842x2160 would be an odd resolution! 🤣
your video review are great, finally someone did a true review, lot of info for buyer, specially the crop factor and frame rate. I am looking forward for the menu system video. and i also have a queastion when shooting slow motion at 1080 and 4K, does it have AF on S1?
Thank you so much for bringing up the use of a canon (or other lens) adapter! I have been searching all morning to see if there are lens adapters for this camera, this video is the only thing I've seen that even talks about that possibility. Hopefully in the near future they will have some that work without being buggy.
1:48 i know you are referring to Sony a7iii. Totally agree with you, that a7iii port covers really suck. And I dont see any physical or design constraints why they were done like that. Anyway thanks for sharing.
I was surprised to see the S1 beating the A7III in low light :). It was maybe on par with the A7sII... I hate the noise reduction in camera, I preffer to have grain and remove it in post if needed... BTW good review!
The best review sofar on this camera on RUclips in my opinion. Just one question; is there any information about whether or not we can record into an SSD via the USB port on the camera?
Thanks for such a really detailed review; your resourcefulness in finding adaptors to use other lenses is really appreciated. The coverage in the kitchen was brilliant! I also appreciate you not pulling any punches regarding the deficiencies in the auto focus system. Panasonic’s persistence of sticking with CDAF is a concern ; however, I’m really into stills photography and especially landscapes, so the S1R is my preferred choice, where CDAF is not really an issue.
I'm surprised they spoke about the focusing considering this is a pre-production camera with pre-production firmware. The DPReview guys said they can't talk about it yet (because it's not finished). Strange this was put in. Honestly this review seems way too early.
@@BrennanMartin I don't think anyone should ever be hopeful for Panasonic to ever fix autofocus performance. Panasonic promised better autofocus performance on the GH5 with firmware updates for 2 years and they never delivered. The autofocus performance on GH5 even with the latest 2.4 firmware is still totally unusable. The autofocus with their full frame can only likely be even worse than on the GH5, since larger sensor is much harder to process and even with 2 years more advanced processing, I just don't think Panasonic can make a usable autofocus performance. Sad! (Trump voice)
@@charbax Fair enough, but I still think it's weird to say this is an "in depth review" despite it being pre-production hardware and software, and no vlog firmware which is exactly what cvp people would be interested in.
if they do patch the magnify out of the hdmi feed I hope they leave a switch to turn it on or off. as It could be handy to have the magnify box come up when filming using a small hd focus (as the focus is much lighter than the atomos)
Nice review. Thanks. One question: at the beginning you said you had the camera for the past two weeks but at the end you say you only had one shot with camera. What did you mean?
Very good in-depth video! You guys took your time looking at the S1, unlike other popular channels. Where's the short film? The link isn't available at time of post.
Great review. Thank you. If you'll eventually be able to adapt EF mount, this could be a big deal but it's def not flooring me yet...especially for the price. It'll be interesting to see what Panasonic does with firmware updates.
I certainly don't hope SONY will change anything so it becomes like this brick. Especially not the price, size, menu and weight. love the Sony menus, size, buttons, and dials, and the fact that almost every function are reachable with the right hand. If you feel the Sony's are too small then add a grip.
Well done, beautiful, and relievingly honest review! // Did you notice any other times where the S1's sensor would flare in the corners, like in the high ISO test clip?
I'm stuck between a Sony A7s III or gh5s! I'm wondering if this will be another option to consider? Low light performance is critical to archive jazz gigs!......any suggestions?
@@JamesJacksonFilmz Our pockets also can't handle it. Pitching any new cameras, asking extra price, I think clients also can't handle it. There is no balance in pricing and features, in the end.
@@eicarshiva keep in mind there's only 5 cameras currently in the world that have the capability of doing 10 bit 422 4k full frame internal recording. The S1 would be the 6th and the cheapest. The next cheapest is 10k for the body only.
S1R has in-body 187mp pixel-shift, 4K60@x1.09, 5.7mEVF, + no green tint ;) MC-21 adaptor is first-party rather than the third-party MC-11, so better performance with EF lenses. The S1 has better video features, though, and the S1-EVA will be better again.
Having purchased and happily used the GH3, GH4 and GH5 I was looking forward to this camera, hoping for a full frame GH5 with better focus. Now I'll remain content with the GH5 until a camera company does better than that.
Well in the candlelight test, the A7III colors are just garbage. The Panasonic looks fine for pre-production which unfortunately makes this limited in usefulness. They really should have had firmware buttoned up by now but oh well. Love the screen design, fully articulating screens are SO over-hyped, not needed at all for talking head shots where the app works just fine if not better. Vloggers are the ONLY group that benefits from a screen that flips forward, which I get their need but for everyone else this is better. They are saying there will be 12 bit out thru HDMI with the upgrade but have not seen any kind of details on that. Overall decent review.
I so agree with you about the screen articulation. The problem is that vloggers have a lot of influence with camera makers these days, and their needs tend to skew what the majority of camera users really want. For my own part, I hate flip-out screens with a vengeance. If a vlogger needs to see him/herself, get an Atomos or some such, the cheapskates!
@@tebitan3780 I agree too! I own the a7iii as well and the shot comparing iso baffled me. He didn't even have focus on the model. Not up to his usual standards. And the a7iii definitely needed more magenta and less green tint :P I'm excited to see the 4k 60fps on full frame! even though there's a slight crop.
Take a look at Wex Photography’s hands on first impressions of this camera. Auto focus is pretty damn good. I think having the external monitor affects the focus. Color science looks good. Decent recording modes. I think Panasonic will be updating these to offer more options in the future. I think I know what’s wrong with this camera. People got so use to Panasonic offering top tier features at affordable prices that they are spoiled and expect the same here. They are climatized to the butt rape inflicted on canon users with regards to features. I think the S series will be one of the best full frame options on the market. Will it sell? I hope so.
Slightly unrelated question. Did you just randomly come up with the idea to shoot a short promo video for a restaurant nearby? Did the restaurant pay anything or was it basically an exchange for testing the camera? Pretty cool stuff regardless ;)
@@CVPTV Wow that's pretty cool and much better than most other camera guys who will just film a few leaves in their backyard for the hundredth time . Would have been a little awkward if the cameras just crapped out on you since it's pre production and all haha Anyway great stuff guys and much respect for the hustle ;)
Thanks! Yeah putting equipment into the environment they are actually going to be used in is so much more beneficial for end users watching a review than a park... Glad you enjoyed!!
It'd be interesting to see whether this with 10 bit and log profile, the Nikon Z6 with ProRes RAW or other top end hybrid cams match up against independent cinema workhorses like the C300, FS7, EVA-1 etc in image quality. Can their larger sensors and the advent of pro level codecs in these cameras make them a match?
Do you see a noise reduction +/- option like the GH5/GH5-S has. I run my GH5 with noise reduction pulled all the way back. I'd rather record more detail (and more noise) and pull that noise out more surgically in post.
The Fuji-style articulation is the strongest form-factor from an engineering factor (this was a stated design-objective) and the lens-aligned axis suits stills photography, but it seems likely that Panasonic will make an SX1 or S10 eventually with a selfie-screen and lower price-point given their G series camera strategy - though probably not as quickly.
The Autofocus / size make this camera impractical for vlogging. I would never recommend this for vlogging. Sony & Canon make much better camera choices for it! Jake
Really awesome camera and progressive features and functions. I could easily see myself switching from Sony to Panasonic if it wouldn’t suck at continuous AF, wich is, you know, like the most important feature in a camera. This would stress me out in important and time critical situations. Come on Panasonic, just put in phase detect AF.
Disagree on a flipout screen not being a requirement. If you're used to the Sony A7, you won't miss it. If you've ever used the GH4/GH5 for any decent amount of time you *will definitely* miss it. The GH5's VLog was $100 FWIW...I'd expect this one to cost at least that... Did you need the S1's higher ISO? Looked like the restaurant was well lit...
@@activatehalo7763 photographers use low angles or high angles... Used to use an angle finder with an old film camera. It's not just for vloggers.... 😛
Dammit. Was so hoping for this camera. But backwards articulating screen, 4k crop @60fps, and 30 minute limit is a deal breaker. Oh well I guess I'll keep on waiting..
Such an awesome video, thank you CVP for caring about your customers. Extremely promising camera, well worth the money but I'm gonna keep on waiting for the Sony a7siii...
we really need to harp on the AF ability and push Panasonic to produce an AF system that can produce fast or slow accurate focus pulls like DPAF, and accuracy and reliability like EYE AF
I know the video shooters are less impressed with this camera. For stills, if it's anything like the G9 (considering the looks and features are similar) then this camera looks outstanding. Only issue is the AF. While not bad, its just not as good as some other cameras.
Thank you so much for making this review. Love these video's with you. Very informative, to the point, professional. Deserves way more views! Keep it up guys!!
Thank you for the kind words!! Jake
agree, very well made video
In the low light test, the flower next to the girl's face was more detailed on Sony @ 3200 iso and more detailed on Panasonic @ 6400 iso. Is it a slight focusing error or maybe the Panasonic sensor is one of those "dual native iso" and somewhere between 3200 and 6400 is the higher "native" one?
Gorgeous and in the right size, not as small as Nikon, Sony and Fuji,better grip and built well, we see that it is solid!
So no waveform monitor or scopes built in?
Unfortunately not. Jake
Ah that’s a shame thanks for that
Its a photo camera 1st with video specs added. Not the other way around. Gotta know what the intent was before you bash it
@@DESIGNS-vo1mt I get what your saying but it doesn't look like it's being bashed.
OMG the ability to change the fly-by-wire is just great!! Hoping that this will come to Sony!
You guys did a great job in your review and youtube video report. It appears this will be a gret full frame Lumix Camera. The change for me will be going from Micro 4/3rds to a full frame. We shall see where this trips goes. Regardless you did and informative report about the camera's capabilities as well as it's potential and other issues. Bravo, good luck, and keep ypur reports coming. They are very much apprecaited by me. All my best!
Thanks for going in depth on the video specs. Such high quality reviews coming from you guys, I like it!
Thank you!! We've got loads more coming!! Jake
Probably the most detailed review of this camera I've seen yet. Thanks for posting. Music would have been better at a lower volume.
What camera did you shoot with in this video? That strobe/judder at 4:37-4:42, is it really common to all 4K footages of all modern cameras? Happens even when complying with the 180deg rule. Does not happen in 1080.
This b-roll was shot on our Alexa Mini. Jake
Please do video on HLG.
Great video! It’s a shame it doesn’t seem like a worthwhile upgrade over the GH5s for video shooters :(
That can be seen as either bad news or good news. Means I won't be tempted to buy a new camera any time soon.
I'm still excited for the S1. I hope the V-Log update arrives at the same time of the official release date. Personally, I'm not concerned about the AF performance. Most of the time I use MF with AF assist on my GH5. Although I can see instances where a reliable AF would be preferable. It's just not a deal breaker for me. At the moment, I'm still happy with my GH5. I've been able to capture fantastic footage with it. So, I'm happy sticking with Panasonic for now.
Very nice review
Awesome Review! Cannot wait to see more videos with the s1.
I have a m43 and used a FF. Trust me, you will always love the m43 but the image quality on a FF sensor is noticeably better. More DR and low light performance.
From my tests. The HLG DR is incredibly close to Vlog DR. (11.5 stops in GH5)
So I think you are showing what it can do here. Regardless of no vlog yet.
Thanks for info.
No surprise there with contrast defect focus.
HLG actually maxes out at 15 stops. The GH5 can't see it because the sensor itself caps at 12 stops. On the GH5s you can get more DR using HLG.
James Jackson Films you can’t get 15 stops. Don’t be silly.
See my tests. I did them 3 entirely different ways to make sure of accuracy.
Great video! thanks for sharing your thoughts on this camera. Do you recall if you're able to use the PIP manual focus assist whilst video recording is in progress? The lack of this feature is very annoying with the GH5 and GH5s. Thanks!
Good critical review. Hope Panasonic see it. Important point for and against.
Good video and analysis. 3:50 - more useful to compare usage duration rather than just battery power capacity - the S1 will draw a lot more power than say a G9.
Love the music your talking over... artist name?
Is there a black frame @ 6:02?
Thanks so much for such a well done video. Very helpful.
Please, if you don't mind, I have a few questions.
First, I shoot non-electronic, fully manual lenses; FD, EF (Rokinon), M42, M39, etc. Primarily, I like shooting with the FD and Rokinon lenses.
I am assuming I can use these lenses on the S1? Yes?
I'm am unfamiliar with the L mount.
Do you know what adapters are needed for the lens systems I mentioned.
Next, no waveform...:-(
That kind of...well, sucks.
There's more...lots more, but let this suffice for the present.
Hey William, Yes these lenses will work with the correct adapters once they have been made! You can find the Novoflex adapters here - www.novoflexus.com/products/lens-adapters/for-leica-cameras/novoflex-let-co.htm they do FD, M42 & EF currently. Hope this helps, Jake
Funny error in your chart at 15:30: The numbers move up incrementally when, I'm guessing, the data was copied and pasted to the additional spreadsheet boxes. 3842x2160 would be an odd resolution! 🤣
Nice spot I didn’t notice that! It’s been a very long few weeks with this video and BSC prep! Sorry for the mistake 😂 Jake
@@CVPTV No worries. We are all human and I've looked at some videos so long I started see what I thought should be there!
your video review are great, finally someone did a true review, lot of info for buyer, specially the crop factor and frame rate. I am looking forward for the menu system video. and i also have a queastion when shooting slow motion at 1080 and 4K, does it have AF on S1?
Thank you so much for bringing up the use of a canon (or other lens) adapter! I have been searching all morning to see if there are lens adapters for this camera, this video is the only thing I've seen that even talks about that possibility. Hopefully in the near future they will have some that work without being buggy.
Thank you! It's a very important part of the camera so we thought it was crucial to include. Thanks, Jake
1:48 i know you are referring to Sony a7iii. Totally agree with you, that a7iii port covers really suck. And I dont see any physical or design constraints why they were done like that. Anyway thanks for sharing.
100% was referring to the A7 line! Jake
very detailed review! cheers
Does the screen auto-dim like the GH5?
bought the "super-35" fuji xt-3 instead. the mini cine.
best decision ever
Beautiful camera!
I was surprised to see the S1 beating the A7III in low light :). It was maybe on par with the A7sII... I hate the noise reduction in camera, I preffer to have grain and remove it in post if needed...
BTW good review!
The a7III had much more detail. The Pana rendered her skin so it looked like plastic.
The best review sofar on this camera on RUclips in my opinion.
Just one question; is there any information about whether or not we can record into an SSD via the USB port on the camera?
Thanks for such a really detailed review; your resourcefulness in finding adaptors to use other lenses is really appreciated. The coverage in the kitchen was brilliant!
I also appreciate you not pulling any punches regarding the deficiencies in the auto focus system. Panasonic’s persistence of sticking with CDAF is a concern ; however, I’m really into stills photography and especially landscapes, so the S1R is my preferred choice, where CDAF is not really an issue.
thanks for the video
Did they respond regarding the slow motion capability being limited as far as changing shutter speed goes? That's definitely a deal breaker in my mind
4K60 is cropped? Poor AF video performance is sad, sad.
Yeah and hopefully they can update it! Jake
Read that with Trump voice, lol
I'm surprised they spoke about the focusing considering this is a pre-production camera with pre-production firmware. The DPReview guys said they can't talk about it yet (because it's not finished). Strange this was put in. Honestly this review seems way too early.
@@BrennanMartin I don't think anyone should ever be hopeful for Panasonic to ever fix autofocus performance. Panasonic promised better autofocus performance on the GH5 with firmware updates for 2 years and they never delivered. The autofocus performance on GH5 even with the latest 2.4 firmware is still totally unusable. The autofocus with their full frame can only likely be even worse than on the GH5, since larger sensor is much harder to process and even with 2 years more advanced processing, I just don't think Panasonic can make a usable autofocus performance. Sad! (Trump voice)
@@charbax Fair enough, but I still think it's weird to say this is an "in depth review" despite it being pre-production hardware and software, and no vlog firmware which is exactly what cvp people would be interested in.
if they do patch the magnify out of the hdmi feed I hope they leave a switch to turn it on or off. as It could be handy to have the magnify box come up when filming using a small hd focus (as the focus is much lighter than the atomos)
It should be an option you can toggle on or off. Jake
Would love to see more about HLG - especially how it compares to standard modes, how to expose and normalize in post
Ohhh and would love a HLG video. I have it on my A7III and I don't really know why I should use it :)
Nice review. Thanks. One question: at the beginning you said you had the camera for the past two weeks but at the end you say you only had one shot with camera. What did you mean?
So there is no options in the picture profile to turn down the sharpness and noise reduction?
Very good in-depth video! You guys took your time looking at the S1, unlike other popular channels.
Where's the short film? The link isn't available at time of post.
Thank you!! and sorry the link is now in description or you can use this - ruclips.net/video/7BdEy-wo_tI/видео.html
Great review video!!very detailed,thanks
Great review. Thank you. If you'll eventually be able to adapt EF mount, this could be a big deal but it's def not flooring me yet...especially for the price. It'll be interesting to see what Panasonic does with firmware updates.
Very informative. Thanks 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
How does the IBIS compare to the GH5 for video?
GREAT VIDEO! Thank You!
Great and detailed review. Was hoping for s1 to do UHD60p with full-sensor readout
Thank you! Fingers crossed this may yet be possible. We shall see when the new firmware comes out! Jake
Can you record 4k 60p to both cards at same time? I know you can to lower quality,
Looks great and lovely review! I really think the pressure from Panasonic will make Sony wake up. :)
I certainly don't hope SONY will change anything so it becomes like this brick. Especially not the price, size, menu and weight. love the Sony menus, size, buttons, and dials, and the fact that almost every function are reachable with the right hand. If you feel the Sony's are too small then add a grip.
Would you mind commenting on the loudness of the shutter compared to a DSLR?
I can't remember as we didn't take that many stills! Sorry, Jake
Well done, beautiful, and relievingly honest review! // Did you notice any other times where the S1's sensor would flare in the corners, like in the high ISO test clip?
Thanks you for the great feedback! Both myself and Joe can't recall seeing any flare? What are you referring to exactly? Jake
@@CVPTV 14:21 at the very bottom right corner of the screen there is some red flaring, as well as a sharp white vignette from sensor noise.
Ahh sorry that wasn't caught in post! That is where the mask in Premiere ends. It's not an issue of the S1!! Jake
I'm stuck between a Sony A7s III or gh5s! I'm wondering if this will be another option to consider? Low light performance is critical to archive jazz gigs!......any suggestions?
I would consider this, A7III, GH5S & BMPCC4K! Jake
Be cautious when buying cameras of 1st generation. Selling future firmware is dope.
If low light is your concern I would consider the Sony a7siii whenever that comes out! As of now just do what you got and master lighting!
Are they going make any other FF models?
There is the S1 and S1R already, I don't know of any plans for them to introduce any others though. Jake
Yes. Please do an HLG video
you already have tested it ? you're the best bro
Does the S1 offer the 4k burst modes as available with G9, GX7 etc?
Yes, 6K PHOTO, you can use the files for video, too, albeit in 4:3 or 3:2.
Why not full frame 4k 60fps???
Processessor probably can't handle it. 4k60P takes up lot of power even in smaller sensors on a FF its even more.
@@JamesJacksonFilmz but on S1R is possible
@@JamesJacksonFilmz Our pockets also can't handle it. Pitching any new cameras, asking extra price, I think clients also can't handle it. There is no balance in pricing and features, in the end.
@@eicarshiva keep in mind there's only 5 cameras currently in the world that have the capability of doing 10 bit 422 4k full frame internal recording. The S1 would be the 6th and the cheapest. The next cheapest is 10k for the body only.
@@avision-BL S1R wont do it in 10 bit
What song is that in the background?
Is the max ISO 51200 for video? Or can it be extended in video up till 204800?
Sorry if I missed it but can you get PIP focus while recording?
Or does camera have to not be recording.
*EDIT* nvm saw near the end.
question ok?
best camera
sony α7RⅢ or lumix S1R ?
A7rIII without doubt. But let's see how the sensor performs for stills, but alone the size / weight, and lens avalilability makes me prefer the Sony.
S1R has in-body 187mp pixel-shift, 4K60@x1.09, 5.7mEVF, + no green tint ;)
MC-21 adaptor is first-party rather than the third-party MC-11, so better performance with EF lenses.
The S1 has better video features, though, and the S1-EVA will be better again.
@@idontwantacallsign I can sense a fan boy
Having purchased and happily used the GH3, GH4 and GH5 I was looking forward to this camera, hoping for a full frame GH5 with better focus. Now I'll remain content with the GH5 until a camera company does better than that.
Bonobo3D S1H is awesome but way way way too expensive lol
Is the log format proper V-Log or the same V-Log Light
We will not know until the VLOG update comes out! Jake
@@CVPTV Righto, fingers crossed hopefully with the bigger sensor and iso performance they can push that in
They do have it planned! Hopefully it is released soon. Jake
Who knows. Who has the experience out of millions? On which Vlog
Hard to tell ATM. Some people have stated it's the full Vlog aome say its Vlog-L. Time will tell
Well in the candlelight test, the A7III colors are just garbage. The Panasonic looks fine for pre-production which unfortunately makes this limited in usefulness. They really should have had firmware buttoned up by now but oh well. Love the screen design, fully articulating screens are SO over-hyped, not needed at all for talking head shots where the app works just fine if not better. Vloggers are the ONLY group that benefits from a screen that flips forward, which I get their need but for everyone else this is better. They are saying there will be 12 bit out thru HDMI with the upgrade but have not seen any kind of details on that. Overall decent review.
I so agree with you about the screen articulation. The problem is that vloggers have a lot of influence with camera makers these days, and their needs tend to skew what the majority of camera users really want. For my own part, I hate flip-out screens with a vengeance. If a vlogger needs to see him/herself, get an Atomos or some such, the cheapskates!
The A7 colors should have been adjusted in the profile. I own a A7 III and for ex. if you use Cody Blue's settings, results are very very good.
@@tebitan3780 I agree too! I own the a7iii as well and the shot comparing iso baffled me. He didn't even have focus on the model. Not up to his usual standards. And the a7iii definitely needed more magenta and less green tint :P
I'm excited to see the 4k 60fps on full frame! even though there's a slight crop.
Take a look at Wex Photography’s hands on first impressions of this camera. Auto focus is pretty damn good. I think having the external monitor affects the focus. Color science looks good. Decent recording modes. I think Panasonic will be updating these to offer more options in the future.
I think I know what’s wrong with this camera. People got so use to Panasonic offering top tier features at affordable prices that they are spoiled and expect the same here. They are climatized to the butt rape inflicted on canon users with regards to features. I think the S series will be one of the best full frame options on the market. Will it sell? I hope so.
Slightly unrelated question. Did you just randomly come up with the idea to shoot a short promo video for a restaurant nearby? Did the restaurant pay anything or was it basically an exchange for testing the camera? Pretty cool stuff regardless ;)
We just randomly came up with the idea! Jake
@@CVPTV Wow that's pretty cool and much better than most other camera guys who will just film a few leaves in their backyard for the hundredth time . Would have been a little awkward if the cameras just crapped out on you since it's pre production and all haha Anyway great stuff guys and much respect for the hustle ;)
Thanks! Yeah putting equipment into the environment they are actually going to be used in is so much more beneficial for end users watching a review than a park... Glad you enjoyed!!
Where' the link to the short film?
Sorry - ruclips.net/video/ubS7-SMoCNs/видео.html
Will it shoot v log in an update?
Yes it will, Jake
probably will charge $100 for v-log
Can you guys compare the panasonic s1's 10bit hlg, and the a7m3 slog2 xavc s, on compression, color rendition, and dynamic range for now?
Check out the ISO tests and DR tests in this review! Jake
I noticed the S1 showed much more detail in the shadows in your DR test, perhaps it needs to be underexposed? Have you tried adjusting the highlights?
@@CVPTV Wonder how it will be like with the full v log, it's going to be 14+ stops of dynamic range, so that's going to be interesting.
The monstro shows much much much more detail in the shadows! Jake
We shall see!
Great review.
Carlos ...but not so great camera after all.
??? You watched the same review I watched ?
Excellent run down of the features! Its a pity they haven't resolved the slow AF. Everything else seems amazing.
Its cant be a review without the final Firmware! Its a preview..
It'd be interesting to see whether this with 10 bit and log profile, the Nikon Z6 with ProRes RAW or other top end hybrid cams match up against independent cinema workhorses like the C300, FS7, EVA-1 etc in image quality. Can their larger sensors and the advent of pro level codecs in these cameras make them a match?
Below IS0 800 Sony A7III looks better S1 Looks better for me above ISO 800 up to 3200 . Why ? Please explain
cant w8 for the full review after the update...
I would love to see a hlg video
Your 2-measure background-music loop is too irritating to tolerate.
I would love a video on HLG!
Do you see a noise reduction +/- option like the GH5/GH5-S has. I run my GH5 with noise reduction pulled all the way back. I'd rather record more detail (and more noise) and pull that noise out more surgically in post.
I couldn't find one in the menu. When we get our production unit I will check it. Jake
We need the lonear focus, improved autofocus, and improved stabilization for the GH5
Great overview, but someone clearly didn't watch this uploading. Lots of weird transitions and not fully scaled b-roll over the main part of the video
WORST SCREEN DESIGN and OVERPRICED and BAD RECORD BUTTON. Thanks for the great review! 😃
TOP COMMENT and FANTASTIC CHANNEL NAME and APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. Thanks for the great comment :)
The Fuji-style articulation is the strongest form-factor from an engineering factor (this was a stated design-objective) and the lens-aligned axis suits stills photography, but it seems likely that Panasonic will make an SX1 or S10 eventually with a selfie-screen and lower price-point given their G series camera strategy - though probably not as quickly.
What's with all the hate bro. I've seen you're comments in all panasonic s1 reviews
you should do a word of the day lesson on the word HATE you wanker
Why is slow motion jerky? it looks like every x amounts of frames it get stuck for a split second
Pair firmware update. I appreciate Fujifilm's free and continued firmware updates.
Do you think its too bulky and big and heavy?
Not at all! Jake
think youtube people will start using it for vlogging or they'll stick to Sony?@@CVPTV
The Autofocus / size make this camera impractical for vlogging. I would never recommend this for vlogging. Sony & Canon make much better camera choices for it! Jake
Does Panasonic S1 have APS-C？
As in an APS-C Mode?
I'd very much like a dedicated video on HLG; the process for delivery in HDR formats seems pretty arcane to me.
S1 have pd 3.0 quick charge?v
Really awesome camera and progressive features and functions. I could easily see myself switching from Sony to Panasonic if it wouldn’t suck at continuous AF, wich is, you know, like the most important feature in a camera. This would stress me out in important and time critical situations. Come on Panasonic, just put in phase detect AF.
Please make video on HLG, please🤩
Why is the hurry for?
You can slow the video down on RUclips if I speak to fast for you. Jake
You got the Nikon Z mount measurements wrong.
Why everyone is saying that XQD costs too much? A slower, UHS-II SD card is 10-30% more expensive than XQD
Thanks for a great overview! Sadly the paid firmware update makes it really hard to know what to expect from this camera.
No flippy screen? 😕
Disagree on a flipout screen not being a requirement. If you're used to the Sony A7, you won't miss it. If you've ever used the GH4/GH5 for any decent amount of time you *will definitely* miss it.
The GH5's VLog was $100 FWIW...I'd expect this one to cost at least that...
Did you need the S1's higher ISO? Looked like the restaurant was well lit...
Are you a vlogger? No?
Then it's not a requirement
@@activatehalo7763 photographers use low angles or high angles... Used to use an angle finder with an old film camera.
It's not just for vloggers.... 😛
@@kenyee88 The S1 has a flip screen. It can do that
Dammit. Was so hoping for this camera. But backwards articulating screen, 4k crop @60fps, and 30 minute limit is a deal breaker. Oh well I guess I'll keep on waiting..
Such an awesome video, thank you CVP for caring about your customers. Extremely promising camera, well worth the money but I'm gonna keep on waiting for the Sony a7siii...
we really need to harp on the AF ability and push Panasonic to produce an AF system that can produce fast or slow accurate focus pulls like DPAF, and accuracy and reliability like EYE AF
Whats that on your chin?
I know the video shooters are less impressed with this camera. For stills, if it's anything like the G9 (considering the looks and features are similar) then this camera looks outstanding. Only issue is the AF. While not bad, its just not as good as some other cameras.