Before MH3 I moved off of the valakut dryad plan and moved back to the tribe scout all in turn 3 with more azuas and such. Drawback is you have to start cutting mycosnyth because you need green on turn 1 again
@@redfacedmenace yeah getting dryad removed with valakut triggers on the stack was pretty annoying all the time tbh. Scout felt very good to be able to put lands into play over multiple turns and instant speed bog was a nice addition along with serjiri steppe. Like you said hopefully untap with scout and get value + flare is ideal situation. Playing more basics might have to be a thing going forward with all of the new moon effects anyways tbh. The Knight, Island merforlk, and the new winter orb all being playable along with all of the current land hate basics seem more viable. I am also playing extra copies of cards that combo with double amulet like Gretchen and 1 copy of world souls rage and mirrorpool. They are going to get the cut for flare I'm pretty sure.
Definitely disagree with Urza's cave. It can find gravehate at instant speed, store valakut triggers for instant speed (find valakut or a fetch), find a needed bounce, etc. I foresee gravehate being super important post mh3, since there's so many cards that interact with the graveyard in the set. I do agree with your assessment of delirium being a lot harder to enable than most people think it is, but I see that card as more of a sideboard card against grief/control decks, where they actively help us to enable it. I don't see decks running this as needing to play 2 tolaria west moving forward, but I also don't think every list will be running it. I do believe you missed out on Six and Vexing Bauble as sideboard options though. I am excited for both. Bauble will help us against subtlety, solitude, force of vigor, etc. You can also crack it to re-enable pact if needed, although that line turns back on their 0 cost hate. I think six is just a toned down version of the delirium land, allowing us to retrace something the turn it is played, so it really doesn't care about removal as much. You can theoretically "infinitely" retrace rings if you felt like it provided they didn't have removal. I am more excited for it as a mill option, or just against any control deck in general. We got some nice tools against grindy decks out of MH3.
Oh man, that's true. I should've touched on Six and Vexing Bauble for sure. I didn't because I felt that Bauble is most likely a 1-of Saga target (not super interesting to talk about) and that Six was a tad slow for its ability, and would likely not see play because of that. But in hindsight I probably should've at least mentioned them in the video. Oops! Honestly, I definitely could see a world where Six is better in the deck than Woodland. That doesn't mean I expect either to be great tho. :/ As for Urza's Cave I just can't possibly agree. Graveyard hate by T4 isn't good enough, even if you manage to ramp into T3 it's too slow on the draw at least. I just don't see the card making waves. Sideboarding Woodland seems interesting, I'll have to think about that one.
We already have access to Growth Spiral and that card sees no play despite ramping and drawing a card at the same time. Do you feel that planar genesis is substantially better? Is it really worth splashing blue for?
@@redfacedmenace it feels reminiscent of Ouat, i get that it’s harder to cast and also can’t be played for free, but i think it may be worth exploring. Of course im okay with being wrong too
@@brandonbarrett1774 I mean, that's somewhat of a fair comparison in the sense that the hardcast part was definitely playable enough with OuaT (I did get to play it while it was legal, though I didn't have a channel at the time). But I do think the blue pip is a huge drawback. I have doubts that it's playable, but I would also be happy to be wrong. I generally try to think of Amulet as a mono-color deck for the most part.
Before MH3 I moved off of the valakut dryad plan and moved back to the tribe scout all in turn 3 with more azuas and such. Drawback is you have to start cutting mycosnyth because you need green on turn 1 again
Oh wow, that’s really interesting. Did you feel that the deck was better without Dryad/Valakut after making that change?
@@redfacedmenace yeah getting dryad removed with valakut triggers on the stack was pretty annoying all the time tbh. Scout felt very good to be able to put lands into play over multiple turns and instant speed bog was a nice addition along with serjiri steppe. Like you said hopefully untap with scout and get value + flare is ideal situation. Playing more basics might have to be a thing going forward with all of the new moon effects anyways tbh. The Knight, Island merforlk, and the new winter orb all being playable along with all of the current land hate basics seem more viable. I am also playing extra copies of cards that combo with double amulet like Gretchen and 1 copy of world souls rage and mirrorpool. They are going to get the cut for flare I'm pretty sure.
Definitely disagree with Urza's cave. It can find gravehate at instant speed, store valakut triggers for instant speed (find valakut or a fetch), find a needed bounce, etc.
I foresee gravehate being super important post mh3, since there's so many cards that interact with the graveyard in the set.
I do agree with your assessment of delirium being a lot harder to enable than most people think it is, but I see that card as more of a sideboard card against grief/control decks, where they actively help us to enable it. I don't see decks running this as needing to play 2 tolaria west moving forward, but I also don't think every list will be running it.
I do believe you missed out on Six and Vexing Bauble as sideboard options though. I am excited for both. Bauble will help us against subtlety, solitude, force of vigor, etc. You can also crack it to re-enable pact if needed, although that line turns back on their 0 cost hate.
I think six is just a toned down version of the delirium land, allowing us to retrace something the turn it is played, so it really doesn't care about removal as much. You can theoretically "infinitely" retrace rings if you felt like it provided they didn't have removal. I am more excited for it as a mill option, or just against any control deck in general. We got some nice tools against grindy decks out of MH3.
Oh man, that's true. I should've touched on Six and Vexing Bauble for sure. I didn't because I felt that Bauble is most likely a 1-of Saga target (not super interesting to talk about) and that Six was a tad slow for its ability, and would likely not see play because of that. But in hindsight I probably should've at least mentioned them in the video. Oops!
Honestly, I definitely could see a world where Six is better in the deck than Woodland. That doesn't mean I expect either to be great tho. :/
As for Urza's Cave I just can't possibly agree. Graveyard hate by T4 isn't good enough, even if you manage to ramp into T3 it's too slow on the draw at least. I just don't see the card making waves. Sideboarding Woodland seems interesting, I'll have to think about that one.
I think the shifting woodland is great as a one-of, but i totally agree that i don't think it'll be part of any main Amulet strategy
I'm glad we seem to be on the same page
@@redfacedmenace * stares in Malevolent Rumble *
If you give haste to a dryad will all the copies come in with haste? It’s an OTK if they do
I don't think the copies would have haste, since it's not printed onto the card.
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I was hoping you would mention planar genesis, i think it is worth considering if we adjust the mana base
We already have access to Growth Spiral and that card sees no play despite ramping and drawing a card at the same time. Do you feel that planar genesis is substantially better? Is it really worth splashing blue for?
@@redfacedmenace it feels reminiscent of Ouat, i get that it’s harder to cast and also can’t be played for free, but i think it may be worth exploring. Of course im okay with being wrong too
@@brandonbarrett1774 I mean, that's somewhat of a fair comparison in the sense that the hardcast part was definitely playable enough with OuaT (I did get to play it while it was legal, though I didn't have a channel at the time). But I do think the blue pip is a huge drawback. I have doubts that it's playable, but I would also be happy to be wrong. I generally try to think of Amulet as a mono-color deck for the most part.
@@redfacedmenace thank you for your opinion and the content
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Thougts on having a 1os six to give retrace, might be to slow, but idk
I think the same thing, likely too slow. I could see maybe playing it in the sideboard?