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I feel the video had amazing reporting but it was to short more information would have been amazing. A longer documentary please. Also to buy the subscription, what will it provide that is beneficial to us and to be able to report and share with everyone
@Gerald Maxwell - I’ve visited China a few times and there are of course ways around “the great firewall of China”. But you’re quite right if you search for anything it’s highly censored. A really interesting place to visit but I prefer my western freedoms for sure
Its interesting the way the west perceive China without actually leaving their own countries. Try being gay in Indonesia or Malaysia, being part of India's caste status system, a female in the middle east or how about being a whistle-blower or black in the US. I've been lucky enough to travel through both China and the US multiple times, and tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I never once feared for my life or experienced any crime in China. The USA on the other hand just a wrong turn in LA or just the subway from Brooklyn to NY was dodgy as. But hey, they have their star spangled freedom while their ever growing poverty grows and everyone hates each other.
@@L.C.Sweeney lol you don’t know NSA government surveillance. Amazon has facial recognition cameras in dozens of US cities plus millions use Ring cameras and Amazon and Google speakers that are spying on you. America is just as dystopian as China if not more.
I'd love a Mr Robot style series about north Korean hackers coming to China, making money by hacking video games and the occasional foreign government, and slowly realizing that they are better off defecting.
I think it's a skill, most people would be pretty open chatting to a reporter because most want to be known. I think it's something all great reporters have - they make people up whether it's a Sryian rebel or a NK defector. Such life stories with a cost.
Except that both Russian hackers and North Korean hackers have the same target: the western world. They want our intellectual property and they both seek to destabilize our governmental and financial systems. Look for the increasing adoption of bitcoin and virtual currencies to have some serious negative effects when it runs into these hackers.
I mean zero hate in this, but there is no irony at all. Its like hiring an expert hitman to protect you, he will know exactly what other hitmen would do to kill you and then take steps to prevent it. Many, many people in the cyber security industry started as actual hackers, both white and black hat. I had a really interesting talk with a member of my country cyber security taskforce at my college and he explained that the best way to get a job is to get on hacking forms and make a name for yourself. Someone will recognise your abilities and snap you up.
Bruh. It ironic cus he worked before like hacking within the softwares of antiviruses programs then later on worked to improve the program of this antivirus program hes workin with. its ironic. U get the point.
Note to Bloomberg- these are not hackers. they are young Korean computer-savvy men in Slavery with high IQ. hackers do what they will- these fellows would have 0 choice on to follow the direction from the generals.
Yes and some simply mask themselves and pretend like they are North Korean or Russian for example. People forget that the best hackers around the world are here in the west. I am not naive, but it would be pretty damn smart to disguise myself as a North Korean. I mean: what is the world gonna do to NK? xD
It's funny how they send their hackers to better parts of the world because the community their has crap technology or are not allowed to use that type of stuff at all
@@noeljr.7724 Yeah this is what I think the reasoning is as well, they ship them off to other countries to be able to deny that any hacking took place, and to avoid further sanctions for their illegal actions.
Most leader hv some level of moral issue. It is like loftr, power is like the ring which corrupt their mind. Even people as kind and simple like Bilbo can't stop it. We need more Bilbo
I wouldn't say it's ironic that he started at an antivirus company... If he managed to break mamy of its kind it just makes sense that he should be able to make them more secure overall by basically acting as a white collar hacker and advisor/coder.
@@ordenmanvrn7685 they have 12 network pages for the government. Their “Red Star OS” is an ancient version of Linux. They got their whole internet shut down TWICE because they hacked one dude and he got upset they tried hacking HIM for hacker software and tools. I don’t think they’re that advanced but are trying to get there
@@saltyspades7493 And yet the US & other western nations are whining that NK hacks yet another web service & that they have a special hacker training school... Go figure)
Just shut up...The US government can't keep Secrets for several Hours...If they were doing it in a so large scale We will obviously get some hint about it... US is still much behind China, Russia in Hacking
@@varangianguard4726 That was Iran... Not China or Russia bro...They can't hack into Russian or Chinsese Systems...I seldom heard Russia or China about getting their System hacked....
Talking as if other nations didnt do things a thousands times worse. In fact with the exception of open air nuclear testing north korea only harm their own while nations like the usa and uk are war criminals through and through
That stifled laugh when he talks about the weekly propaganda recitations the Hackers were forced to do... this guy could barely contain his opinion on the ridiculousness of the NK machine. Really interesting story, glad his contact was able to defect and get out.
Well it’s socialism to them. Socialism is a barely definable ideology but what North Korea has economically is what socialism is. Government control of the economy, it in many ways resembles the Soviet Union. Socialism doesn’t entail monarchist rule though.
Socialism and monarchy are not mutually exclusive, just like Capitalism and monarchy are not either. Plenty of Capitalist monarchies around the world. One is a form of rule (a republic, a kingdom, etc) the other is an economic system.
@@theadam7598 North Korea is very much Socialist in name only. Whilst their economic sytem matches the loosest of definitions of socialism, much like the USSR, it is nowhere near true socialism because the workers do not get their fair share. You could argue it is closer to a like neo-feaudalism because the whole system of wealth is arranged around social proximity to the 'King'/Dictator and there is little to no social mobility. Also, Socialism in definable, it is just less agreed on than capitalism, or other overarching economic systems, because so many different facets of socialist ideologies claim to be the true socialism. They all revolve around the idea of public ownership and a fair distribution of wealth amongst all. NK only fits half that definition and even then it is hardly public ownership, its literally just private ownership to the Kim family with extra steps.
Their system is not socialism, just like how their so called "Democratic People's Republic" isn't democratic, run by the people, or a republic. It's all just lies the monarchical leadership like to tell to keep their people in line.
IMHO, Ch1nas search engine doesn’t have a recommendation engine with your search history if you are from outside the country. Therefore, the information is not filtered.
6:12 Programming and hacking are very different things. Programming = writing instructions for the computer to follow and hacking (unethical hacking) is gaining access to anothers pc without their permission (in general, im not counting things like ddos attacks because they are different.)
In the year 2020 these North Korean hackers tried to get into Kundankunal Nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu, India. Internal report suggest that they were successful in doing so on the Administrative side i.e employee and staff related data but not on nuclear research stuff. There was hue and cry about it. That nuclear powerplant is the newest plant being built with Russian technology and is VVER type. More eyebrows were raised when a news article quoted that Thorium related development is being persued there.
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Jo shut up
And the money goes directly to ... ? NK ! HAHAHA
I feel the video had amazing reporting but it was to short more information would have been amazing. A longer documentary please. Also to buy the subscription, what will it provide that is beneficial to us and to be able to report and share with everyone
The fact that someone felt freeer in China, tells a lot about how restrictive North Korea is.
@Gerald Maxwell - I’ve visited China a few times and there are of course ways around “the great firewall of China”. But you’re quite right if you search for anything it’s highly censored. A really interesting place to visit but I prefer my western freedoms for sure
Regardless of The Great Firewall China just differentiate rarely with other developing countries
Oh ya? What a great deduction lol
Its interesting the way the west perceive China without actually leaving their own countries. Try being gay in Indonesia or Malaysia, being part of India's caste status system, a female in the middle east or how about being a whistle-blower or black in the US.
I've been lucky enough to travel through both China and the US multiple times, and tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I never once feared for my life or experienced any crime in China. The USA on the other hand just a wrong turn in LA or just the subway from Brooklyn to NY was dodgy as. But hey, they have their star spangled freedom while their ever growing poverty grows and everyone hates each other.
@@cim888 Was your subway ride really that bad from brooklyn? What happened?
Wandering through the streets in China, discovering freedom. Anonymity. Boy do we take everything for granted over here.
🙄wow 😔
Anonymity from the other people yes. Not From the Government. They see and hear You 😉
Yeah people here trying to prove snow is fake in Texas. We are doomed.
@@L.C.Sweeney lol you don’t know NSA government surveillance. Amazon has facial recognition cameras in dozens of US cities plus millions use Ring cameras and Amazon and Google speakers that are spying on you. America is just as dystopian as China if not more.
@@zeitgeistx5239 Give it a rest. We all know this isn't true, just give it a fucking rest.
I'd love a Mr Robot style series about north Korean hackers coming to China, making money by hacking video games and the occasional foreign government, and slowly realizing that they are better off defecting.
I sense a future kdrama.
Lol
@@nabilahmadsiddiqui345 do they actually make thrillers?
"It took like, an hour before he would trust me with his life story"
What kind of open book people does this guy usually deal with?
@@user-wf1zp7md6o silence bot
@@user-wf1zp7md6o Jong, is that you?
exactly... this story is BS...
I think it's a skill, most people would be pretty open chatting to a reporter because most want to be known. I think it's something all great reporters have - they make people up whether it's a Sryian rebel or a NK defector. Such life stories with a cost.
He doesn't even know what the definition of hacker is. I'm not surprised.
lol that Macbook probably had an NSA backdoor from day one
Lmao
Fun fact, most IT guys know this: there is a backdoor for each Cisco network device so that the CIA or FBI etc can monitor all the info as needed.
@@Will-ui5gg no we have a restriction to survive civilians
That is true
I hope next time you hear from him he is still alive!
Russian Hacker : seems like a Worthy Opponent!
Except that both Russian hackers and North Korean hackers have the same target: the western world. They want our intellectual property and they both seek to destabilize our governmental and financial systems. Look for the increasing adoption of bitcoin and virtual currencies to have some serious negative effects when it runs into these hackers.
Note:don’t r/whoosh this guy, he’s just explaining what’s the difference.
My bet's on the Russian.
Laughs in Brazilian 😆
@โปรเซสเซอร์ ไทย actually american hackers are joke. russia did lots of stuff in American cyberspace but america did nothing
He know so much about those hackers, just forcing me to think he himself is one of the hacker in disguise of reporter.
The story of the people of North Korea is really sad. They don't even know they're oppressed.
They do nowadays given the information that has entered the country via China
The sad thing is western people don't know they're being oppressed either.
@@littledovecitydust nowhere near as bad as those in NK
Ignorance is bliss
Our leader predicts weather lmao my ass
Bloomberg: Kim “understands the importance of computers “💻
Me: Great News
😂😂
Yeah all we want is for real Kim to come and comment on RUclips we are bored of fake kims
Where's the irony in this man working on an anti-virus company? He's the perfect fit for the job with his knowledge
I mean zero hate in this, but there is no irony at all. Its like hiring an expert hitman to protect you, he will know exactly what other hitmen would do to kill you and then take steps to prevent it.
Many, many people in the cyber security industry started as actual hackers, both white and black hat.
I had a really interesting talk with a member of my country cyber security taskforce at my college and he explained that the best way to get a job is to get on hacking forms and make a name for yourself. Someone will recognise your abilities and snap you up.
I don’t think he used the word correctly. He may have seen people used it never correctly understood the concept
Bruh. It ironic cus he worked before like hacking within the softwares of antiviruses programs then later on worked to improve the program of this antivirus program hes workin with. its ironic. U get the point.
“Hacker does opposite of hacking” can anyone define irony?
Because he used to work against them, now he works for them, not that hard to understand.
So Jong is basically North Korean Edward Snowden
so true, everyone's a villain for somebody
Meanwhile the US has the same thing but on steroids and for decades longer
Just ask Edward Snowden.
Really? How can you even compare life of those North Korean people with anybody in USA...
@@wawbagel he meant the hackers abd cyber spying teams
@@wawbagel Yes, unfair to compare a third world country with North Korea, it's too easy
@@kaaosaf lmfao ok altie.
Uh oh. The internet is bored and starting to catch on.
LOL
Show me ur macbook. Show me all ur pirated movies
Note to Bloomberg- these are not hackers. they are young Korean computer-savvy men in Slavery with high IQ. hackers do what they will- these fellows would have 0 choice on to follow the direction from the generals.
Yes and some simply mask themselves and pretend like they are North Korean or Russian for example. People forget that the best hackers around the world are here in the west. I am not naive, but it would be pretty damn smart to disguise myself as a North Korean. I mean: what is the world gonna do to NK? xD
@@ruslanneijsen7361 russian propaganda...
That guy straight up looked like White Rose from Mr. Robot
Mr. Robot called it with Chinese/Foreign? hacks and crypto-currencies becoming mainstream.
It's funny how they send their hackers to better parts of the world because the community their has crap technology or are not allowed to use that type of stuff at all
😞 sadly but true
Very ironic and dumb too
True but also if the hacks are traced then they will only be traced to China and therefore North Korea can claim they are not responsible.
@@noeljr.7724 Yeah this is what I think the reasoning is as well, they ship them off to other countries to be able to deny that any hacking took place, and to avoid further sanctions for their illegal actions.
Plot twist : Macbook was developed in North Korea. But they don't even know they developed Mac
Nah bitcoin
Fun fact: Kim Jong Un invented the Macbook
and runs microsoft
and programmed Android
and came up with to movie cats
And he invented the "bowl cut"
He was the first to land on the moon
You all talk like if the USA doesnt have a lot of hacker teams to hack and extract informations from any other country
Stuxnet, 😂😂
Ah yes classic whataboutism :)
Not saying it's not true. It is true.
But it doesn't make the North Korean side less wrong
Noeswantra Then why not report on it? Unless these American media channels want to admit to being partial and biased.
@@noeswantra2295 US steal information around the world we know that ,infact much worse then this north Korea..i just don't understand
NSA laughs in silence.
That North korea nuclear warhead is not Scarry,, because the tip is not pointy,,, it will bounce back to them.
This comment is very Aladeen
@Mr Awesome and if 10 nuclear warheads can kill millions of people, those millions of people won't care if millions of north koreans die too
@@ohlala9546 exactly
Didn't know that's how ICBMs worked. I guess you learn something new here everyday 😆
Leaders have huge moral issues. I am afraid where our world is going.
Most leader hv some level of moral issue. It is like loftr, power is like the ring which corrupt their mind. Even people as kind and simple like Bilbo can't stop it. We need more Bilbo
Now it's time for you to learn. Nearly all leaders of nations, corporations, etc. have some kind of moral issue. It's nothing new.
If i may give you one advice mate, don't be scared. Seriously. Stay informed but not afraid. Keep your chin up lad
It has always been this way. That is why world history is filled with war and slavery
@@eitkoml Wtf is a "moral issue"
I wouldn't say it's ironic that he started at an antivirus company... If he managed to break mamy of its kind it just makes sense that he should be able to make them more secure overall by basically acting as a white collar hacker and advisor/coder.
bro north korea is like a mad acid trip
whats that lil spark you ask?? thats the calling of FREEDOM
Whatever you might say north korea definitely has some talented people
North Korea's technology is so old that you could probably just take off the ball from under the mouse and crippled them 😂
Stupid stereotype
@@jimpad5608 but Is true tho.
@@johnsalchichon777 It would have been true only in a parallel universe where NK has no trade deals with China and other countries
@@ordenmanvrn7685 they have 12 network pages for the government. Their “Red Star OS” is an ancient version of Linux. They got their whole internet shut down TWICE because they hacked one dude and he got upset they tried hacking HIM for hacker software and tools. I don’t think they’re that advanced but are trying to get there
@@saltyspades7493 And yet the US & other western nations are whining that NK hacks yet another web service & that they have a special hacker training school... Go figure)
Like the NSA is doing all day on a larger scale
Word
This isn't remotely true
Just shut up...The US government can't keep Secrets for several Hours...If they were doing it in a so large scale We will obviously get some hint about it... US is still much behind China, Russia in Hacking
@@DhrubajyotiRaja01 ever heard of stuxnet the NSA hacked Irans nuclear facilities
@@varangianguard4726 That was Iran... Not China or Russia bro...They can't hack into Russian or Chinsese Systems...I seldom heard Russia or China about getting their System hacked....
I was a Lineage 2 player, didn't know that Lineage 2 bot program was made by this guy
devastating? only for wall street. poor people enjoyed the movie.
It made me really happy to hear he had a family and a kid now.
trained by internet and social media giants of america who send their best trainers every year
As an Indian I would prefer spending the rest of my life in Pakistan with an Indian identity than in North Korea as a local smh
Delta
As a korean, I would never ever be an indian. Its better to be north korean, than atstreetsheeting boi)
Clever people who could have amazing lives - Coerced, and fooled into harming their fellow man. For peanuts.
Wait, are you talking about Americans or North Koreans?
Sounds just like the USA only the pay's better there..
@Kokopelli 7 Muzick so everyone is evil huh
Talking as if other nations didnt do things a thousands times worse. In fact with the exception of open air nuclear testing north korea only harm their own while nations like the usa and uk are war criminals through and through
@Daniel Edward Define strong words because all I see is truth and only truth
lol north korea hacker defector works in anti-virus software company in South Korea 😂😂😂
This guy is talking like he is making this up right here.
He's probably just bad at English
For a beckward county, their hacking game is fire
how about US hacker kept by CIA ?
Really well done.
“Kim is often seen on his plane with a Mac on his desk, so you can tell he understands computers” *hmmm are you sure about that?!*
Can never get over the sweatshirt in a dark basement hacker portrayal.
Sorry. Not so convincing. Story teller looks more confused in narrating the story that he wrote.
I think Kim is trying to hide his passion for Hentai
The audio on this is so messed up.
Probably got hacked.
Only 1000 ip addresses in NK 😂
That stifled laugh when he talks about the weekly propaganda recitations the Hackers were forced to do... this guy could barely contain his opinion on the ridiculousness of the NK machine. Really interesting story, glad his contact was able to defect and get out.
How true is this when the reporter is still alive to tell it on RUclips?
NK can't do anything to him
Great video!
Bloomberg this is a really interesting video, well done, the information is relevante and the story very interesting
the unknown is always going to be scary
anchor eyes are next level.
In regards to the "serious altercation", I have a feeling he panicked and killed the senior officer.
If he did, he has done a great service to humanity by getting rid of one more vermin from this earth.
Great video, loved it
You want me to believe this runescape player has ties to North Korea? bruh
One point is strange. If NK sent hackers to China, why will hackers know each other. I doubt NK will be doing that
Someone on the internet should do a reaction video with a North Korean defector.........
Love the video 💙💯
I like how he undermined what technology is when he mentioned N Korean know the importance of technology. Technology = hacking? Technology = computer?
Yes both are fine.
That’s dangerous job, specially if you do that
in Russia.
They are not hackers they are just entering in nursery of hacking and it’s their first day in class so zero big zero 😂😂😂
Funny how they have hackers but a ton of starving people
In North Korea the electric keeps cutting out how can they hack when their wifi keep cutting out
I guess they have dedicated electricity for the team
lol
Did he just say "protected by the government in South Korea" at 5:55 ?????
The identity of defectors from North Korea is protected by South Korean Govt . That's what he said.
Life inside North America hacker army.... Soon to follow.
as if you don't have it in the US
9:26 Of course, putty in a windows 7 pc, the most devastating hacking tool.
Jung was not real name👍but telling age is clue 🗝️..😭
bloomberg doing real journalism? i'm shocked
How is this socialism while it is hereditary... Kinda like monarchy
It is a monarchy
Well it’s socialism to them.
Socialism is a barely definable ideology but what North Korea has economically is what socialism is. Government control of the economy, it in many ways resembles the Soviet Union. Socialism doesn’t entail monarchist rule though.
Socialism and monarchy are not mutually exclusive, just like Capitalism and monarchy are not either. Plenty of Capitalist monarchies around the world. One is a form of rule (a republic, a kingdom, etc) the other is an economic system.
@@theadam7598 North Korea is very much Socialist in name only. Whilst their economic sytem matches the loosest of definitions of socialism, much like the USSR, it is nowhere near true socialism because the workers do not get their fair share.
You could argue it is closer to a like neo-feaudalism because the whole system of wealth is arranged around social proximity to the 'King'/Dictator and there is little to no social mobility.
Also, Socialism in definable, it is just less agreed on than capitalism, or other overarching economic systems, because so many different facets of socialist ideologies claim to be the true socialism. They all revolve around the idea of public ownership and a fair distribution of wealth amongst all. NK only fits half that definition and even then it is hardly public ownership, its literally just private ownership to the Kim family with extra steps.
Their system is not socialism, just like how their so called "Democratic People's Republic" isn't democratic, run by the people, or a republic. It's all just lies the monarchical leadership like to tell to keep their people in line.
Mac- *Here's for the crazy ones*
Fury sure was a great choice for Great Leader Kim to release ‼️
Wow people gets angry when their selfies movies is leaked
No ads!
Kim Jong un really kept the infinite tsukoyomi going over North Korea
Don't forget about Bureau 39
Excellent story!
Did he just say China and "Access to the information is better" in a single sentence.
IMHO, Ch1nas search engine doesn’t have a recommendation engine with your search history if you are from outside the country. Therefore, the information is not filtered.
6:12 Programming and hacking are very different things. Programming = writing instructions for the computer to follow and hacking (unethical hacking) is gaining access to anothers pc without their permission (in general, im not counting things like ddos attacks because they are different.)
All the hackers of world is zero in Front of my creator ❤️❤️❤️🙏
In this world, Truth is a very Important Principle of Life.
Much of "truth" is subjective.
Simon Prades is the illustrator
This guy is talking about his own people who had been torn apart by the US and Russia. He is completely ok with that.
Right trader
@@SaintNarquis lucky for the mankind that you were not a dictator. Based on your judgmental mind … scary.
There are westenerds that ideolize north korea that its just beyond. You gotta be so shadow as an individual.
Sony pictures wasn't hacked by "North Korea's Hacker army"... 😂
A bunch of CS graduates building bots and hiring scammers on Fiverr...the definition of "hackers" for Bloomberg
Next time, instead of crippling the internal systems, try making a GUI interface using visual basic to track the systems
interesting stories, keep it going
He totally did not doxx the guy now working in the antivirus company.
And people says they don't use internet 😑
Really?? Does he understand technology for raising productivity in N. Korea??
In the year 2020 these North Korean hackers tried to get into Kundankunal Nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu, India. Internal report suggest that they were successful in doing so on the Administrative side i.e employee and staff related data but not on nuclear research stuff. There was hue and cry about it. That nuclear powerplant is the newest plant being built with Russian technology and is VVER type. More eyebrows were raised when a news article quoted that Thorium related development is being persued there.
What makes you think the USA doesn’t have a hacker army either
There is a big difference
I dont belive that was ever claimed.
@Kokopelli 7 Muzick Yes but American hackers don’t hack civilians and companies for money
What makes you think only the country USA have a hacker army opposing to NK ?
@@MrCoconutMadness - not true. American hackers are no better than any country's.
If you thought making the Emoji movie was bad enough, think again...
"keyboard warrior" taken to a whole new level
Now where is the story on NSA hackers? I'm sure American hackers are 10 times as powerful as North Korean ones.
0:25 ...wait, what movie was that? That sounds great
Pretty sure it’s called “The Interview” because on the top it says it
North Korea is about communism NOT socialism as mentioned (9:49). There is a huge difference!
in fact north Korean study outside in north korea country
like China etc..
THE BIG QUESTION
IS WHO PROVIDE COMPUTER AND NETWORK SYSTEM
IN NORTH KOREA?
Bloomberg 4k!