Regardless of how expensive the card is. There should be just a flat fee. Upcharge is just a way to extort more money and punish someone for having a valueable card.
I have thousands of cards and I was planning to get a few graded until I heard about the upgrade from the Sports Card Shop. It seems dishonest. Just another way to shaft the customer. I will sell them raw instead.
Someone is going to find a way to grade cards with a NFT and we are going to do away with the dumb ass card grading prices and process. They only hold the power we give them and I would say majority of people probably lose instead of gain grading cards. I love buying PSA under $20.. it's done already. I'm with you guys.
Yup. How ironic they claim to grade all cards the exact same.... $5 card is graded same way as a $5 million card..... yet they dont charge that way. So what do you get for the extra money? I have never seen a company so blatantly say "Well.... that's awesome you got that item, we want our piece."
Don't forget to look at the back of the card. A lot of newer cards have scratches on the back because the cards are moved through the printing and cutting process on rollers at the bottom of the sheets of cards. Immediately knocks it back down to a 9 at best.
Not necessarily. Grading companies are more lenient with the back of the card. I got an SGC 10 for a 2022 Prizm WWE Stone Cold with minor gloss speckles (dots). Also got a 9 CSG of The Rock with print line on back. Mint is Mint.
I see alot of people bypassing grading because of the high price and just lowering the sale price on eBay.They seem to be selling pretty well on their own.The little guy can't afford those outrageous grading prices.I want to get my cards graded but I can't because I can't afford to.I feel kicked to the curb and not good enough to participate in the hobby I love so much.All over money.
No one cares that the little guy can't afford a lamborgini they just keep selling them. When has anyone cared about the little guy? So don't grade your 15 dollar card, no blood no concern. Bet you will grade it if you think it is worth 500:)
That’s why psa is just a joke. Cgc has higher standards and Is much cheaper. Or even sgc still in a slab. I’ve seen some 10psa that look like crap. lol everyone needs to get off the psa bandwagon 😂
Exactly! It doesn’t matter if a card is graded or not. If you look at it and are an honest person, any trained monkey can grade a card. Does it really matter if it has a holder with a corporate logo on it? That just means that someone paid someone to look at your card and extort money from you to say if it is a 1-10 or just authentic if it’s in rough condition. If the card is a 10, then it’s a 10 whether it’s graded or not. The only opposing issue is with signed cards. But most are already authenticated cards that came out of packs so it really isn’t that big of a problem. I made a comment about the price gouging of cards that get a high grade, if that is justified then there should be a discount on cards that get a lower grade for the opposite reasons they use to gouge people who take care of their cards
after watching this, looking at some cards i was perhaps willing to get graded in the future, corners thatll cut you, i still leaning maybe i wont now lol. To me they seem 9-10, which to PSA is prob a 7 LOLOL. SO maybe ill keep my opinion to myself.
Love how you are spending so much time about centering when sending to PSA. Not sure if you've ever noticed or not but, PSA is almost center-blind. I've seen literally thousands of PSA 10 cards that not only were off center, they were well off center in both directions. If you want a company that cares about centering, use BGS.
@@jibcoolio7 LMAO, sorry Jesse, but you don't just get to say "wrong" without backing up your claim. And factually speaking, I am absolutely correct. I own and see more cards than you can dream of and I know what I'm saying. PSA is horrible when it comes to centering. Here's an incredible example for you, even by PSA's standards. Look how jacked the centering is on this cards..........IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Bowman-Chrome-LeBron-James-ROOKIE-RC-123-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/353428362217?hash=item5249f8d3e9:g:8O0AAOSw0EpgV8gn
I have psa 10’s that are 70/30 one way 60/40 another and some of my older psa 10 are like 80/20 on the back but 50/50 on the front inconsistent but if a card is perfect in every other way it definitely can be a little off center it says so on there site that it is a judgement call never just go by the grade on case look the card over if you want a perfect card imho
Notes: Order of importance - Centering (L to R and top to bottom), Corners, (Tool: Horizon Lighted 10X Magnifier) Edging, Surface (scratch, stain, bump, finger pringts). Sun glass cloth to clean and I will hold the card on a hard surface with my other hand with a penny sleeve between my fingers and the card so that I do not leave any finger printing. Downloadable spreadsheet for PSA submission at Value based pricing on the PSA submission.
My personal collection is mostly from the "junk wax" era because that's when I grew up, but I do have a few cards I'd like to get graded. This was a very informative video because I don't know much about the grading process. Thanks, fellas!
I just dont understand why PSA feels the need to upcharge someone when a card is worth more money. Its not like they have to do more work whether they look at a 100 dollar card versus a 100k card. Most other grading companies charges you the same price for a single card no matter how much its worth. Greedy ass PSA always wanting a piece of the pie because your card is worth more. SMH
@@jgjmia Insurance should only be $2.50 per $1000 of value...PSA wanted $1000 for a $20k card for "insurance". When I ship with ANY carrier it is $2.50 per $1000...what is $2.50 x 20? That would be $50...where does the other $950 go?
I watched your video prior to sending my cards out to PSA. This was my very first time getting cards graded when I open up my card packs especially ones that have holograms in them. I always wear a good disposable glove so they don’t get fingerprints on them, but I did go ahead and Clean them up anyways, I sent of 10 cards from Topps chrome and Panini in F1 racing soccer and UFC and just my luck. I got all 10 back at a gem mint 10 and I have to thank you guys for this because I don’t think they would’ve came back like that if I did not do the cleaning prior to sending I did not even think about and it’s funny that the gentleman mentioned, Beckett penny sleeves oversized that’s the only penny sleeve I use the same one oversized, Beckett brand and all my top loaders are by Beckett as well. You have to get the best protective gear for your collection. Thank you so much for the valuable Intel. I just sent off another 10 cards to get graded. Let’s see what happens. I’m gonna stick to this process like it’s my religion. Thank you so much for the valuable Intel. God bless you all.
Joe - love you mentioned Don Sutton! He was the first guy I started looking to collect all of his cards and yes, sent some in for grading. You cut me to the core.
Great breakdown in detail of all steps needed for public knowledge interested in getting their cards graded! Maybe the importance of the back of the card centering/surface inspection should have been added too?
I was hoping to get a better understanding about grading cards for my son, I'm lost even more now, u basically showed me how its not worth grading unless it's worth a lot..
Can you talk about sending vintage , cause some cards in like a PSA 3s are worth more than like 95% of modern cards 😂 can you do a video talking about the differences of grading value between soem vintage an modern , are psa more lenient on card grading on a card from like 1910 , or do hey expect a card from 1910 to have the same condition as a card released in 2022 and be a PSA 10?
I had similar questions and what I did was go out and buy a few cards with different grades from era's similar to the ones I want to grade out of my collection. Lots of junk wax stuff, some vintage football, et cetera to try and get a "feel" of how they are graded. I got a few PSA 6 + 7 for less than the cost of grading the card (especially now) and I grabbed some "affordable" PSA 9 + 10's. All I really came with is that the general tenants of grading are applied in the same manner but with an understanding of the type of technology available at the time. As an example, sharp corners in 1977 and sharp corners in 2017 are too different things. I have a 1990 Fleer All Stars Larry Bird PSA 10 where the corners look "sharp" but it's not like a 2020 Panini is "sharp". And I think that if that same sharpness from 1990 is applied to a newer card it most def doesn't pull a PSA 10. I might be wrong about that. I've got 100's of cards at PSA right now so we're gonna test my hypothesis a bunch over the coming year.
Something else I'll add, especially with regards to newer cards, I have the same cards in a PSA 8, 9, + 10 and in some instances you can barely tell the difference or point out the flaws card to card. Especially between PSA 9 + 10. It's not every time, but it's enough that I took notice during my "research phase". And by "research phase" I mean thinly vailed excuse to buy even more cards.
Thank you guys soooo much for doing this tutorial! I have been sitting on a stack of about 120 cards ready for you and needed to find the time to finally get them off!
The fact that there are up-charges on grading cards specifically if the grade they gave will cause the value to increase more than any other card is the prime reason why grading companies are corrupt and I wouldn’t use them. Once they get to grading cards a 10 vs a 9 it’s all at their discretion. If they feel they’ll make triple or quadruple the money if they give you a 10 why wouldn’t they as long as it looks relatively good. Everyone and everything is corruptible sadly.
I really feel like im taking free online classes on the hobby. Thank you guys so much i will be using your bulk submissions service real soon...but after watching this i have to recheck some cards
I think a great video and would help alot of people out would be showing what should be acceptable tolerances for gems, 9 and 8s for grading with the cards corners, surface and edges under that 10x magnifier and I think more people would pick those up its an excellent tool
Based on what you guys say and the examples presented I’ve been too hard on my cards. All of those defects were immediately noticeable to the naked eye test
Guys, great info. One of the items that is never mentioned when grading your own card for possible submission is if the card is slightly warped. Not bent, but the overall shape is a slightly arced. This seems pretty common on cards from packs. Can you comment on this?
My card is virtually perfect, but the of the digits of the serial number isn't perfect. How much would that effect the card grading if everything else was perfect?
How would I clean a card that came from a peel sticker backing where the adhesive is over 20 years old and it is still tacky on the back? Anyone have a good suggestion?
You should look more into Automated Grading Systems (AGS). They are a new competitor in the grading scene and have made a name for them selves through their usage of AI to accurately and fairly grade cards. AGS much more consistent with their scores than PSA and Beckett because of this.
Just wanted to say I learned a ton from. This video and I thank you and appreciate it. I did a video with my auto collection with nick from sports cards madness and he’s awesome but I really learned a lot about how to not mess up your cards… very informative
Box important. I had some in double bubble wrap and USPS still managed to crack the slabs. And they have been losing A LOT of my stuff, so best to send by UPS.
I've always felt like the issue with card collecting is there's normal guys like me who collected cards buying a pack or two at a time here and there and we'd throw the cards in binder with a soft card holder sheet. If we happened upon something worthwhile we'd put it in a semi ridgid full of specks of sand that just scratched the cards worse then protecting it and when we found something amazing or so we thought we'd put them in the ridgid holders. We shoved the binder on a book shelf and called it a day. And then there's some guy who buys the cards by the pallet and just floods the market with cards that have never really been handled by a normal person or ever really "traded" so to speak like we used to do with our cards when we were younger. I mean look at how many cards are behind these guys on the set. How is a normal person ever expected to compete with that? It reminds me of a time I found out a friend I went to highschool with actually had been into collecting cards in the 1990's like I did. When I asked about his collection he pulled out a cardboard filing box from a storage closet out on his apartments ground floor porch. It must've collected water or something or just soaked it out of the air or something cause the box looked gross. He then proceeds to pull nothing but sorted and completed sets of whole series of cards for year after year after year. Every card in the series nearly. I was like how did you get these. Well when he was a kid his mom and dad were rather well off and so when he started collecting his parents having the means bought him a massive amount of cards. His collection was amazing. It made my binders at home feel worthless in a way almost. I was looking at completed series of cards and trying to fathom how many packs he would've had to buy to complete series like that. Well he told me his parents spent not only a lot of money but a lot of lot of money. Lol. They apparently spoiled him rotten with boxes of cards straight from the stores in the area. To the point where he said he thinks he put a dent in the local areas card market most likely. He had a pretty decent portion of the cards for those specific few years kids my age collected and probably made it a very saturated market I was thinking. Then he tells me that whole cardboard box was just the ones that he had sleeved and that he had boxes and boxes in his storage units somewhere. I cringed. About six months later he ended up having some financial problems and had to move out of his apartment. He didn't offer me anything or asked me if there was anything I could've used. He just tossed all his stuff from his apartment knowing his parents would probably buy him new. Well about the last day he was in the arartment I asked him about the card collection in the box in the porch closet. He laughed and said he just tossed the entire box into the dumpster at the apartments. I almost cried. His collection of a lifetime just disposed of to avoid not getting his security deposit back. I couldn't believe he would be so un appreciating of the cards he collected and I think it was just because he never really knew what it was like to buy a single pack of cards out of his pocket being a broke kid. That small event really summed up my whole experience in the card collecting game. Ever since then I've had a few people ask me if I wanted to buy some cards and although I know most of the cards had been picked through for anything worthwhile most likely I reached into my pocket and paid what I could for even the mediocre binders of cards because I know my card binders meant something to me as a kid. It was something I did with my friends and my dad and my card binders meant something to me. I would hate to find out someone offered me there collection I turned them down and then they decided the cards were somehow completely void of value and ends up tossing them because they couldn't sell them. I tried to give them top dollar too knowing one day they're probably going to kick themselves in the ass when they think about those cards and why they ever decided to sell them. Those times are coming very soon now I suppose. A resurgence is something we all wished for and now that it's upon us it's obvious it's still a market with two types of collectors. Guys like me who bought a few packs and the guys who bought boxes of boxes of boxes.
Thanks for the story. Sad. So sad. Pathetic really. It would have been wonderful to just go through that collection. Like mining for gold. "Here's one! A Mantle.And here, a Yogi Berra, and a Ted Williams rookie card!!" Rich kids find life boring because there's nothing they don't already have or could buy to get. My older brother would go with me and my dad to the flea market. Back in the 70s baseball card were like M&Ms. Cheap. Plentiful. Dealers would have them in boxes to buy for a penny each. One guy even sold my dad a garbage bag full of cards that he then gave to my brother. I didn't collect. But it was fun for me to watch him get so excited building a collection of his favorites. Slowly getting the teams and players he wanted. There was no such thing really about "crisp corners and centering" and all that PSA stuff. Most cards were bumped on the ends, but again, some were still valuable as you know. They have good values down into the 7s and 6s (graded). Then, when the first pricing books came out, the hobby became a YAHOO STOCK immediately. Card values exploded. Boy, was he happy!! That had me daydreaming a lot. If only I had bought 20 sets of 1975 TOPPS sets of baseball cards. Wow. So many incredibly valuable cards in that one. And even the "unopened" packs. Ha. Did anyone ever think back then of buying dozens of packs and not opening them for 50 years?! What they're worth now, unopened, is shocking!! As long as you enjoyed the hobby, is what counts. My dad would say about collecting... that all this stuff just gets handed down anyway. We are just "temporary stewards" of these collections. Our job is to take care of them, keep them safe, and then hand them down so someone else can enjoy. You take care!
Theres a new group now and they are doing nothing but flipping cards for the money only. Zero collector interest but they are very very good at the reseach needed. Just saying.
Love the video! Not sure if this was asked/answered already. I understand about the upcharge if cards grade higher and value goes up....but what if a card grades lower than the estimated value, does PSA credit or refund any money spent to get that particular card graded? Seems to me if there's a possibility of an upcharge PSA should refund or apply a credit towards another card if the grade and over all value is lower then what was paid.
How does centering on the back of a card affect the grade? I can't seem to find a lot of information on it, and most videos I've seen don't address the back unless it's issues like print lines, scratches, etc. on the back.
Very informative Joe & Geoff. Any chance the team can tell me the make/model of the personal microphones used? The sound quality was great and I need a set!
I collect mostly 1 of 1 cards to offset the greed of the grading companies. I shouldnt have to pay more for my grading service if i got a 9 or 10. Charge a flat fee and grade our cards period
Thanks for the interesting episode! I have what is admittedly newbie question... Someone that grades with your service will presumably have their card in the same order as other people. How does a person know that his say Chipper rookie is his or another person's grading with you? It might not matter as much if they get returned the same grade, but it certainly matters if they grade differently.
How do you tell the difference between off center and miscut? And does PSA have any difference in grading the 2? Sorry... I’m obviously new to this lol
Go to E-bay and type "trading card centering tool" in the search box. They run around 6 dollars. Off center up to 80-20. Any worse than that will usually get a miscut designation. If you allow qualifiers, you will get a (MC) below the grade. If you don't allow qualifiers, your grade can be anywhere from 1.5-3.0 points lower, depending on how badly miscut.. Off center (OC), is usually 1.0 points lower. If you are going to keep the card, allow the qualifier, if you are going to resell the card, don't allow qualifiers. They are sale killers, usually people don't even look at cards with qualifiers, unless it's Mantle Aaron, or Mays.
@@jerrywalz9056 this helps a TON! I was mainly talking about the 1990 marvel Universe holograms. I have 1 that has the holo sitting right on the edge of the card, but still the full holo. I really wanted to keep it because the corners, edges, and surface are flawless, but I also knew that centering played one of the biggest roles in grading. I’m glad it’s not considered junk lol & I’m about to order the tool... it will be nice to know how far off my eyes are too! Oh! Does this qualification work at all graders or just 1 or 2?
This is why I will NOT grade with PSA...30 years in the business and story after story confirming what you just said = me assessing PSA as ruining long term value. I will be submitting everything going forward to HGA using computer technology not personal opinion and buddy deals to get high grades...watch in the future PSA grades will not be considered legit due to all the inconsistant grading. One story was about 63 "9's" that were cracked and sent back to PSA without telling them...40 of the 63 came back "10's". This is a problem when with some rookie's the difference between a 9 or a 10 is over $10,000. Keep those buddy deals going...it will help my prediction come true. The word about the BS grades is getting out...that and the price gouging. PSA will destroy itself.
This must be why 4SCs gets such favorable grades. I've ordered a handful of "10s" from them and ALL of them have had a blatant imperfection on them. Centering? What centering, have seen 10's with 70/30 centering. Get outta here!
@@austinhansen9079 Oh right on. I will tell you, before you send ANYTHING in to get graded, do a lot of research. If you are going to sell them, which I’m assuming is the end goal, people will try and undersell you all day. Get super familiar with the valuations of your cards both graded and ungraded. Plus grading is probably about to get pretty expensive so i wouldn’t even be married to the idea of sending them at all to be honest. Depends on what you have. But like I said, please do lots of research, lots of great RUclips guys and different internet spots to get great info. Obviously this channel, PSA Collector is a great one on YT as well. Also Card Talk Podcast is super cool. Lots of great places to learn and have super valuable information. Don’t get overwhelmed, there is a lot to learn but take your time and you’ll make the right decision for your collection. All the best!
@@michaelgatti8320 I have cards in which I can not find the value too, no matter how much I search. Where else can I search if nobody has them on ebay or the app they mention on this YT?
@BLZiTA 508 I will send you all the descriptions on each of them when I get home today after work. I'd be happy to send you pictures of them. What is your email.
@22:40 That's why this service doesn't make sense and why I was curious to watch this. What are these tiers? So you charge for grading then upcharge since it's worth more to "PSA"? B S Racketeering VBP. Not saving anyone money, just greed from the potential profit.
I disagree with using card savers vs. Top loaders. Try getting a card, especially a thicker stock card in a card saver. I promise you it takes an act of congress to get the card to fit without damaging the top or corners of the card. No such issue with a proper sized top loader, you use gravity to your advantage without touching the card going in. I never understood this ideology. Try getting a card out of a card saver vs a top loader. All I have to do is hold the top loader vertically with one hand and tap it against the other hand and the card slides out flawlessly without touching the card. Can't do that with a card saver, as a matter of fact you have to push or squeeze the sides of the card saver in order to open the mouth of the card saver then physically put your KFC Lickin fingers in to pull the card out carefully. Makes no sense. Sorry, top loaders all the way.
PSA accepts topladed cards but they recommend card savers. I don’t think PSA pulls cards out of the card savers; I think they carefully cut the card saver open to get to the card.
Hi, what about uncirculated 2002 Topps Pristine Football Refractors? Do I leave it in it's plastic case and let them take them out? How can I tell about the card's surface when it is behind plastic?
Agreed if time is a major factor in how easily you can sell the card. If it's going directly into your collection or time doesn't matter for value of the card psa is still the way to go. IMO
@@THENATURAL0949 PC Cards no doubt, but since this is an investing channel time usually matters unless it is a long term hold. I can do 8 or possibly more SGC orders before I get a PSA order back.
I think all this is ruining the hobby for me i dont have $5000 dollars to spend on 1 card or even $1000 i have collected since i was 8 and i cant hardly buy a card i want.....yeah investers ruining a HOBBY! boxs are $750 yeah my cards have went up but just absolutely stupid right now
I sent in 42 cards to SGC. Of those, I got 21 10’s, 18 9.5’s 1 9, 1 8.5 and 1 8. I did zero prepping. They went from packs to sleeves. I was fine with the result.
What about a slight curve in the card? Say if you lay the card on a flat surface and the middle of the card "bows" up off the flat surface but the top & bottom are flat? Does that affect grade?
Interesting, no mention of centering or surface of the BACK of the card, should that be a concern? and no mention of the cards having some CUPPING like vintage cardboard cards often do, if the card is slight cupped will the be a minus on the grade?
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Hey, I’ve got a 1983 Topps Darryl Strawberry rookie card, Should I get it graded? I think it has a chance of a PSA 10.
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You said we could check prices free in the video but it's not free.....dont appropriate that.
@@danieltaylor2873 i believe you can. MARKETMOVERSAPP as they mentioned. Hope that helps
Do you guys know where go to get your cards graded
Regardless of how expensive the card is. There should be just a flat fee. Upcharge is just a way to extort more money and punish someone for having a valueable card.
Yea. If I don’t want to sell my 100K rookie Jordan card, I still get up charged as if I will sell it. Crazy they do that.
I have thousands of cards and I was planning to get a few graded until I heard about the upgrade from the Sports Card Shop. It seems dishonest. Just another way to shaft the customer.
I will sell them raw instead.
Someone is going to find a way to grade cards with a NFT and we are going to do away with the dumb ass card grading prices and process. They only hold the power we give them and I would say majority of people probably lose instead of gain grading cards. I love buying PSA under $20.. it's done already. I'm with you guys.
Yup. How ironic they claim to grade all cards the exact same.... $5 card is graded same way as a $5 million card..... yet they dont charge that way. So what do you get for the extra money? I have never seen a company so blatantly say "Well.... that's awesome you got that item, we want our piece."
It’s bs. But as long as the big breakers and the sport card hobby community gives psa that say so, they’ll always be in business.
After watching this, my collection is going back on the shelf.
Great tips for someone who's never sent cards off to be graded. Working on my first batch to ship to you guys. 💥
Don't forget to look at the back of the card. A lot of newer cards have scratches on the back because the cards are moved through the printing and cutting process on rollers at the bottom of the sheets of cards. Immediately knocks it back down to a 9 at best.
Grading has gotten WAY to involved and in depth. And the money difference between a 10 and a 9 is honestly INSANE...Just my opinion.
Mosaic has been horrible with print lines on the back this year (football and basketball). There are going to be minimal PSA 10s
Not necessarily. Grading companies are more lenient with the back of the card. I got an SGC 10 for a 2022 Prizm WWE Stone Cold with minor gloss speckles (dots). Also got a 9 CSG of The Rock with print line on back. Mint is Mint.
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True, and who cares about the back... well, we do apparently lol.
I see alot of people bypassing grading because of the high price and just lowering the sale price on eBay.They seem to be selling pretty well on their own.The little guy can't afford those outrageous grading prices.I want to get my cards graded but I can't because I can't afford to.I feel kicked to the curb and not good enough to participate in the hobby I love so much.All over money.
So true!
No one cares that the little guy can't afford a lamborgini they just keep selling them. When has anyone cared about the little guy? So don't grade your 15 dollar card, no blood no concern. Bet you will grade it if you think it is worth 500:)
That’s why psa is just a joke. Cgc has higher standards and Is much cheaper. Or even sgc still in a slab. I’ve seen some 10psa that look like crap. lol everyone needs to get off the psa bandwagon 😂
Exactly! It doesn’t matter if a card is graded or not. If you look at it and are an honest person, any trained monkey can grade a card. Does it really matter if it has a holder with a corporate logo on it? That just means that someone paid someone to look at your card and extort money from you to say if it is a 1-10 or just authentic if it’s in rough condition. If the card is a 10, then it’s a 10 whether it’s graded or not. The only opposing issue is with signed cards. But most are already authenticated cards that came out of packs so it really isn’t that big of a problem. I made a comment about the price gouging of cards that get a high grade, if that is justified then there should be a discount on cards that get a lower grade for the opposite reasons they use to gouge people who take care of their cards
after watching this, looking at some cards i was perhaps willing to get graded in the future, corners thatll cut you, i still leaning maybe i wont now lol. To me they seem 9-10, which to PSA is prob a 7 LOLOL. SO maybe ill keep my opinion to myself.
Love how you are spending so much time about centering when sending to PSA. Not sure if you've ever noticed or not but, PSA is almost center-blind. I've seen literally thousands of PSA 10 cards that not only were off center, they were well off center in both directions. If you want a company that cares about centering, use BGS.
Wrong
@@jibcoolio7 LMAO, sorry Jesse, but you don't just get to say "wrong" without backing up your claim. And factually speaking, I am absolutely correct. I own and see more cards than you can dream of and I know what I'm saying. PSA is horrible when it comes to centering. Here's an incredible example for you, even by PSA's standards. Look how jacked the centering is on this cards..........IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Bowman-Chrome-LeBron-James-ROOKIE-RC-123-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/353428362217?hash=item5249f8d3e9:g:8O0AAOSw0EpgV8gn
I have psa 10’s that are 70/30 one way 60/40 another and some of my older psa 10 are like 80/20 on the back but 50/50 on the front inconsistent but if a card is perfect in every other way it definitely can be a little off center it says so on there site that it is a judgement call never just go by the grade on case look the card over if you want a perfect card imho
So that’s why every psa 10 I see on eBay is off centered I’ve been wondering
Can I pop open psa graded cards and re submit them?
That background will catch people's attention! 😂 very informative stuff guys. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Yeah impressive , that’s a lot of cigarettes. I hope they don’t smoke around the cards.
The Fleer on the counter tho
Notes: Order of importance - Centering (L to R and top to bottom), Corners, (Tool: Horizon Lighted 10X Magnifier) Edging, Surface (scratch, stain, bump, finger pringts). Sun glass cloth to clean and I will hold the card on a hard surface with my other hand with a penny sleeve between my fingers and the card so that I do not leave any finger printing. Downloadable spreadsheet for PSA submission at Value based pricing on the PSA submission.
My personal collection is mostly from the "junk wax" era because that's when I grew up, but I do have a few cards I'd like to get graded. This was a very informative video because I don't know much about the grading process. Thanks, fellas!
Same situation with me
Amen! Same here
1987 topps jose canseco gold cup 🏆 is a good junk wax Era card
Thanks for this video. Sending in my first ever card to be graded and you answered all my questions . Thanks again
I just dont understand why PSA feels the need to upcharge someone when a card is worth more money. Its not like they have to do more work whether they look at a 100 dollar card versus a 100k card. Most other grading companies charges you the same price for a single card no matter how much its worth. Greedy ass PSA always wanting a piece of the pie because your card is worth more. SMH
Agreed PSA are rats
It’s because the insurance I think
@@ParzivalZone EXACTLY!!!! PSA 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@jgjmia Insurance should only be $2.50 per $1000 of value...PSA wanted $1000 for a $20k card for "insurance". When I ship with ANY carrier it is $2.50 per $1000...what is $2.50 x 20? That would be $50...where does the other $950 go?
That's right. It's like if a cop would ask his boss a bonus because he arrested a murderer instead of giving a speed ticket. Ridiculous.
I watched your video prior to sending my cards out to PSA. This was my very first time getting cards graded when I open up my card packs especially ones that have holograms in them. I always wear a good disposable glove so they don’t get fingerprints on them, but I did go ahead and Clean them up anyways, I sent of 10 cards from Topps chrome and Panini in F1 racing soccer and UFC and just my luck. I got all 10 back at a gem mint 10 and I have to thank you guys for this because I don’t think they would’ve came back like that if I did not do the cleaning prior to sending I did not even think about and it’s funny that the gentleman mentioned, Beckett penny sleeves oversized that’s the only penny sleeve I use the same one oversized, Beckett brand and all my top loaders are by Beckett as well. You have to get the best protective gear for your collection. Thank you so much for the valuable Intel. I just sent off another 10 cards to get graded. Let’s see what happens. I’m gonna stick to this process like it’s my religion. Thank you so much for the valuable Intel. God bless you all.
Joe - love you mentioned Don Sutton! He was the first guy I started looking to collect all of his cards and yes, sent some in for grading. You cut me to the core.
I just got back into the hobby. I haven't collected since 99. I appreciate this video guys. Very helpful.
Great breakdown in detail of all steps needed for public knowledge interested in getting their cards graded! Maybe the importance of the back of the card centering/surface inspection should have been added too?
I was hoping to get a better understanding about grading cards for my son, I'm lost even more now, u basically showed me how its not worth grading unless it's worth a lot..
Can you talk about sending vintage , cause some cards in like a PSA 3s are worth more than like 95% of modern cards 😂 can you do a video talking about the differences of grading value between soem vintage an modern , are psa more lenient on card grading on a card from like 1910 , or do hey expect a card from 1910 to have the same condition as a card released in 2022 and be a PSA 10?
I had similar questions and what I did was go out and buy a few cards with different grades from era's similar to the ones I want to grade out of my collection. Lots of junk wax stuff, some vintage football, et cetera to try and get a "feel" of how they are graded. I got a few PSA 6 + 7 for less than the cost of grading the card (especially now) and I grabbed some "affordable" PSA 9 + 10's. All I really came with is that the general tenants of grading are applied in the same manner but with an understanding of the type of technology available at the time. As an example, sharp corners in 1977 and sharp corners in 2017 are too different things. I have a 1990 Fleer All Stars Larry Bird PSA 10 where the corners look "sharp" but it's not like a 2020 Panini is "sharp". And I think that if that same sharpness from 1990 is applied to a newer card it most def doesn't pull a PSA 10. I might be wrong about that. I've got 100's of cards at PSA right now so we're gonna test my hypothesis a bunch over the coming year.
Something else I'll add, especially with regards to newer cards, I have the same cards in a PSA 8, 9, + 10 and in some instances you can barely tell the difference or point out the flaws card to card. Especially between PSA 9 + 10. It's not every time, but it's enough that I took notice during my "research phase". And by "research phase" I mean thinly vailed excuse to buy even more cards.
All in the name of science!
@@gabeturner6451 thanks for the help , I’ll definitely take that on board haha , blessings my guy 🙏🏽😂
TOTALLY different animals
Amazing video... Thanks for producing. I am new to PSA and was getting ready to submit my first order. Now I can slow down and get it right!
Thank you guys soooo much for doing this tutorial! I have been sitting on a stack of about 120 cards ready for you and needed to find the time to finally get them off!
how much did that cost for 120 cards if you dont mind me asking
@@izzybell2203 multiply 120 by 50. And you'll find the minimum cost
The fact that there are up-charges on grading cards specifically if the grade they gave will cause the value to increase more than any other card is the prime reason why grading companies are corrupt and I wouldn’t use them. Once they get to grading cards a 10 vs a 9 it’s all at their discretion. If they feel they’ll make triple or quadruple the money if they give you a 10 why wouldn’t they as long as it looks relatively good. Everyone and everything is corruptible sadly.
Just got absolutely destroyed on very new stuff...they're deff not giving away grades. All cards were over 5k value raw, none got more than a PSA 6.
@@chrisbuk7405They swapped your 9 for a 6.
I really feel like im taking free online classes on the hobby. Thank you guys so much i will be using your bulk submissions service real soon...but after watching this i have to recheck some cards
I think a great video and would help alot of people out would be showing what should be acceptable tolerances for gems, 9 and 8s for grading with the cards corners, surface and edges under that 10x magnifier and I think more people would pick those up its an excellent tool
When submitting cards with your service, how do I know I am getting my cards back, and not somebody else's that may of submitted the same cards?
You don’t, that’s another reason why some of these grading companies are a joke
Based on what you guys say and the examples presented I’ve been too hard on my cards. All of those defects were immediately noticeable to the naked eye test
Guys, great info. One of the items that is never mentioned when grading your own card for possible submission is if the card is slightly warped. Not bent, but the overall shape is a slightly arced. This seems pretty common on cards from packs. Can you comment on this?
Arching of cards doesn’t affect a cards grade.
not an issue
I think they all arch because one side is matt and the other gloss, so the differential of expansion and contraction causes the arching
Please show closely on screen the card savers and penny savers, as discussed in the show. Not quite sure what I bought is correct ones.
Very educational show...thank you...gonna go break out the old cards today!
I just picked up one of those magnifiers should be here soon enjoying the content guys
I got mine a couple weeks ago. Knocked down the qty of my submission from 150 to 2.
@@steppenrat I just got mine last night its a game changer thats for sure love it
Where u guys getting those magnifiers?
@@saulmo147 anywhere online. Hook n loop type guy
Where
Can you provide a link to the magnifier that you used?
Also will psa reimburse you if your card goes down in value if they hit you with a high grade tax.
Lets say before or after 90 days..
NOPE
My card is virtually perfect, but the of the digits of the serial number isn't perfect. How much would that effect the card grading if everything else was perfect?
Educating us will save us money. Thank you for all you guys do.
How would I clean a card that came from a peel sticker backing where the adhesive is over 20 years old and it is still tacky on the back? Anyone have a good suggestion?
Does Beckett grading service also do an upcharge for highly graded cards?
Great video!
You should look more into Automated Grading Systems (AGS). They are a new competitor in the grading scene and have made a name for them selves through their usage of AI to accurately and fairly grade cards. AGS much more consistent with their scores than PSA and Beckett because of this.
That's interesting. Theoretically AI should be much more consistent than human grading.
Great job guys! I appreciated this video. #kudos 😎💎💰
Just wanted to say I learned a ton from. This video and I thank you and appreciate it. I did a video with my auto collection with nick from sports cards madness and he’s awesome but I really learned a lot about how to not mess up your cards… very informative
Love to get some cards graded but at 200 bucks a pop, hopefully things settle down
Other services exist: SGC, BGS, CGC, GMA,etc.
Box important. I had some in double bubble wrap and USPS still managed to crack the slabs. And they have been losing A LOT of my stuff, so best to send by UPS.
I've always felt like the issue with card collecting is there's normal guys like me who collected cards buying a pack or two at a time here and there and we'd throw the cards in binder with a soft card holder sheet. If we happened upon something worthwhile we'd put it in a semi ridgid full of specks of sand that just scratched the cards worse then protecting it and when we found something amazing or so we thought we'd put them in the ridgid holders. We shoved the binder on a book shelf and called it a day. And then there's some guy who buys the cards by the pallet and just floods the market with cards that have never really been handled by a normal person or ever really "traded" so to speak like we used to do with our cards when we were younger. I mean look at how many cards are behind these guys on the set. How is a normal person ever expected to compete with that? It reminds me of a time I found out a friend I went to highschool with actually had been into collecting cards in the 1990's like I did. When I asked about his collection he pulled out a cardboard filing box from a storage closet out on his apartments ground floor porch. It must've collected water or something or just soaked it out of the air or something cause the box looked gross. He then proceeds to pull nothing but sorted and completed sets of whole series of cards for year after year after year. Every card in the series nearly. I was like how did you get these. Well when he was a kid his mom and dad were rather well off and so when he started collecting his parents having the means bought him a massive amount of cards. His collection was amazing. It made my binders at home feel worthless in a way almost. I was looking at completed series of cards and trying to fathom how many packs he would've had to buy to complete series like that. Well he told me his parents spent not only a lot of money but a lot of lot of money. Lol. They apparently spoiled him rotten with boxes of cards straight from the stores in the area. To the point where he said he thinks he put a dent in the local areas card market most likely. He had a pretty decent portion of the cards for those specific few years kids my age collected and probably made it a very saturated market I was thinking. Then he tells me that whole cardboard box was just the ones that he had sleeved and that he had boxes and boxes in his storage units somewhere. I cringed. About six months later he ended up having some financial problems and had to move out of his apartment. He didn't offer me anything or asked me if there was anything I could've used. He just tossed all his stuff from his apartment knowing his parents would probably buy him new. Well about the last day he was in the arartment I asked him about the card collection in the box in the porch closet. He laughed and said he just tossed the entire box into the dumpster at the apartments. I almost cried. His collection of a lifetime just disposed of to avoid not getting his security deposit back. I couldn't believe he would be so un appreciating of the cards he collected and I think it was just because he never really knew what it was like to buy a single pack of cards out of his pocket being a broke kid. That small event really summed up my whole experience in the card collecting game. Ever since then I've had a few people ask me if I wanted to buy some cards and although I know most of the cards had been picked through for anything worthwhile most likely I reached into my pocket and paid what I could for even the mediocre binders of cards because I know my card binders meant something to me as a kid. It was something I did with my friends and my dad and my card binders meant something to me. I would hate to find out someone offered me there collection I turned them down and then they decided the cards were somehow completely void of value and ends up tossing them because they couldn't sell them. I tried to give them top dollar too knowing one day they're probably going to kick themselves in the ass when they think about those cards and why they ever decided to sell them. Those times are coming very soon now I suppose. A resurgence is something we all wished for and now that it's upon us it's obvious it's still a market with two types of collectors. Guys like me who bought a few packs and the guys who bought boxes of boxes of boxes.
Thanks for the story. Sad. So sad. Pathetic really.
It would have been wonderful to just go through that collection. Like mining for gold. "Here's one! A Mantle.And here, a Yogi Berra, and a Ted Williams rookie card!!" Rich kids find life boring because there's nothing they don't already have or could buy to get. My older brother would go with me and my dad to the flea market. Back in the 70s baseball card were like M&Ms. Cheap. Plentiful. Dealers would have them in boxes to buy for a penny each. One guy even sold my dad a garbage bag full of cards that he then gave to my brother. I didn't collect. But it was fun for me to watch him get so excited building a collection of his favorites. Slowly getting the teams and players he wanted. There was no such thing really about "crisp corners and centering" and all that PSA stuff. Most cards were bumped on the ends, but again, some were still valuable as you know. They have good values down into the 7s and 6s (graded). Then, when the first pricing books came out, the hobby became a YAHOO STOCK immediately. Card values exploded. Boy, was he happy!! That had me daydreaming a lot. If only I had bought 20 sets of 1975 TOPPS sets of baseball cards. Wow. So many incredibly valuable cards in that one. And even the "unopened" packs. Ha. Did anyone ever think back then of buying dozens of packs and not opening them for 50 years?! What they're worth now, unopened, is shocking!!
As long as you enjoyed the hobby, is what counts. My dad would say about collecting... that all this stuff just gets handed down anyway. We are just "temporary stewards" of these collections. Our job is to take care of them, keep them safe, and then hand them down so someone else can enjoy. You take care!
Were all casuals lol 😂
Blah blah blah
Theres a new group now and they are doing nothing but flipping cards for the money only. Zero collector interest but they are very very good at the reseach needed. Just saying.
WOW!! just WOW!!
Up charges are messed up one reason I am skeptical of sending my stuff in, I would only give them more if they sold it for a top price
Love the video! Not sure if this was asked/answered already. I understand about the upcharge if cards grade higher and value goes up....but what if a card grades lower than the estimated value, does PSA credit or refund any money spent to get that particular card graded? Seems to me if there's a possibility of an upcharge PSA should refund or apply a credit towards another card if the grade and over all value is lower then what was paid.
Unfortunately, they don’t.
How does centering on the back of a card affect the grade? I can't seem to find a lot of information on it, and most videos I've seen don't address the back unless it's issues like print lines, scratches, etc. on the back.
Very good video, I enjoyed the content!
I have over 300 different Michael Jordan cards that I want to get graded but I'm not sure which company to go with!
If I got locked in that place for an hour all those packs would be open
😂😂
I cant take my eyes off the boxes in the background 😂💯
Thank you for your comprehensive take on the PSA submission process. Your channel is top notch.
Extremely helpful video for a beginner like me. I don't feel so good about my trophy card anymore haha
What’s the better company to send in to. Beckett or psa.
Very informative Joe & Geoff. Any chance the team can tell me the make/model of the personal microphones used? The sound quality was great and I need a set!
Must mention to check front and BACK, lightly clean both sides and surface check both sides as well as 5 steps ! ALL SIDES.
That backdrop of the games of heaven is 🔥🔥🔥 💀
*Gates on another Note MY MAN Geoff is a walking ,talking INFOMERCIAL 😑
Thank you for this! Great information...why don't you put vintage cards in a penny sleeve first? And what about the 70''s cards?
I collect mostly 1 of 1 cards to offset the greed of the grading companies. I shouldnt have to pay more for my grading service if i got a 9 or 10. Charge a flat fee and grade our cards period
Thank you for taking the time to do this video, very informative.
Thanks for the interesting episode!
I have what is admittedly newbie question...
Someone that grades with your service will presumably have their card in the same order as other people. How does a person know that his say Chipper rookie is his or another person's grading with you? It might not matter as much if they get returned the same grade, but it certainly matters if they grade differently.
How do you tell the difference between off center and miscut? And does PSA have any difference in grading the 2? Sorry... I’m obviously new to this lol
If it’s miscut it will be off centered
Go to E-bay and type "trading card centering tool" in the search box. They run around 6 dollars. Off center up to 80-20. Any worse than that will usually get a miscut designation. If you allow qualifiers, you will get a (MC) below the grade. If you don't allow qualifiers, your grade can be anywhere from 1.5-3.0 points lower, depending on how badly miscut.. Off center (OC), is usually 1.0 points lower. If you are going to keep the card, allow the qualifier, if you are going to resell the card, don't allow qualifiers. They are sale killers, usually people don't even look at cards with qualifiers, unless it's Mantle Aaron, or Mays.
@@jerrywalz9056 this helps a TON! I was mainly talking about the 1990 marvel Universe holograms. I have 1 that has the holo sitting right on the edge of the card, but still the full holo. I really wanted to keep it because the corners, edges, and surface are flawless, but I also knew that centering played one of the biggest roles in grading. I’m glad it’s not considered junk lol & I’m about to order the tool... it will be nice to know how far off my eyes are too! Oh! Does this qualification work at all graders or just 1 or 2?
I thought this segment was on PBS. Up next is Antique Road Show.
I couldn't find a link to the magnifier + cleaning cloths on your website. Could you please repeat the URL. Thanks.
Become a friend with a worker or have a big account. More 10 s will come your way. Just coming from a grading friend.
This is why I will NOT grade with PSA...30 years in the business and story after story confirming what you just said = me assessing PSA as ruining long term value. I will be submitting everything going forward to HGA using computer technology not personal opinion and buddy deals to get high grades...watch in the future PSA grades will not be considered legit due to all the inconsistant grading. One story was about 63 "9's" that were cracked and sent back to PSA without telling them...40 of the 63 came back "10's". This is a problem when with some rookie's the difference between a 9 or a 10 is over $10,000. Keep those buddy deals going...it will help my prediction come true. The word about the BS grades is getting out...that and the price gouging. PSA will destroy itself.
This must be why 4SCs gets such favorable grades. I've ordered a handful of "10s" from them and ALL of them have had a blatant imperfection on them. Centering? What centering, have seen 10's with 70/30 centering. Get outta here!
@@TrapHunt or chipping on the sides and still gets a 10
@@theconscientiousperfecter buddy your 💯 on this. Great insight 😜
@@theconscientiousperfecter isn't HGA using that tool also imperfect tho or its grading machine is on point?
Thanks Guys I was worried about my 93 Jeters and am way more confident that they are at least 9s great video!
6 month wait! That is why I use SGC
Holy sealed wax in the BG!! Thanks for this video, very helpful.
Welp. This video had unfortunate timing 😂
@@austinhansen9079 cause PSA shut down almost all new submissions like a day or two later lol
@@austinhansen9079 Oh right on. I will tell you, before you send ANYTHING in to get graded, do a lot of research. If you are going to sell them, which I’m assuming is the end goal, people will try and undersell you all day. Get super familiar with the valuations of your cards both graded and ungraded. Plus grading is probably about to get pretty expensive so i wouldn’t even be married to the idea of sending them at all to be honest. Depends on what you have. But like I said, please do lots of research, lots of great RUclips guys and different internet spots to get great info. Obviously this channel, PSA Collector is a great one on YT as well. Also Card Talk Podcast is super cool. Lots of great places to learn and have super valuable information. Don’t get overwhelmed, there is a lot to learn but take your time and you’ll make the right decision for your collection.
All the best!
@@michaelgatti8320 I have cards in which I can not find the value too, no matter how much I search. Where else can I search if nobody has them on ebay or the app they mention on this YT?
@BLZiTA 508 I will send you all the descriptions on each of them when I get home today after work. I'd be happy to send you pictures of them. What is your email.
@BLZiTA 508 Yes.. 🤣 My B.. I actually thought about that the minute I replied... Cool.. So I'll let you know later on..
I have a 2023 topps julio rodriguez blue short print. It's slightly faded. Curious about what it will grade because of the fading 🤔
prepare yourself for all kinds of changes and to not see your cards in a timely fashion while the company makes millions
For cleaning, is there any solution one could use that would be safe? Or, would any liquid at all be detrimental?
Step 1: EMPTY YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR GRADING!!!!
How do they determine the final value? I see large swings from ebay, PSA website, various other website and comps.
Playback speed of 1.5x is the way to go FYI
Underrated recommendation thanks man
I always watch in 1.75 or 2x
@22:40 That's why this service doesn't make sense and why I was curious to watch this. What are these tiers? So you charge for grading then upcharge since it's worth more to "PSA"? B S Racketeering VBP. Not saving anyone money, just greed from the potential profit.
I disagree with using card savers vs. Top loaders. Try getting a card, especially a thicker stock card in a card saver. I promise you it takes an act of congress to get the card to fit without damaging the top or corners of the card. No such issue with a proper sized top loader, you use gravity to your advantage without touching the card going in. I never understood this ideology. Try getting a card out of a card saver vs a top loader. All I have to do is hold the top loader vertically with one hand and tap it against the other hand and the card slides out flawlessly without touching the card. Can't do that with a card saver, as a matter of fact you have to push or squeeze the sides of the card saver in order to open the mouth of the card saver then physically put your KFC Lickin fingers in to pull the card out carefully. Makes no sense. Sorry, top loaders all the way.
Were not talking about thiccccccccccc dumb dum
PSA accepts topladed cards but they recommend card savers. I don’t think PSA pulls cards out of the card savers; I think they carefully cut the card saver open to get to the card.
Hi, what about uncirculated 2002 Topps Pristine Football Refractors? Do I leave it in it's plastic case and let them take them out? How can I tell about the card's surface when it is behind plastic?
Step 1. Send your cards to SGC and get your cards back in three weeks, or wait 8-16 months to get them back from PSA 🤷♂️
Agreed if time is a major factor in how easily you can sell the card. If it's going directly into your collection or time doesn't matter for value of the card psa is still the way to go. IMO
💯 percent agreed. SGC is doing much better on turn around recently. Last three submissions I sent came back in less than 20 business days.
@@THENATURAL0949 PC Cards no doubt, but since this is an investing channel time usually matters unless it is a long term hold. I can do 8 or possibly more SGC orders before I get a PSA order back.
with added charges !!! oh by the way we graded your card really high so were gonna have to charge u more. joke
Word.
great video - thank u! I'm curious tho why the vintage cards are recommended to go straight into Card Savers and no penny sleeves?
I think all this is ruining the hobby for me i dont have $5000 dollars to spend on 1 card or even $1000 i have collected since i was 8 and i cant hardly buy a card i want.....yeah investers ruining a HOBBY! boxs are $750 yeah my cards have went up but just absolutely stupid right now
Yes. This video gave me the creeps.
1:51 why do you need to register your baseball card football or whatever it ain’t a car?
Sounds to me that the card grading business is where the real money is.
Is it worth sending Pedro Martinez Junior rookie to PSA yes or no thank you
Card grading is a racket! PSA should be boycotted. Ridiculous to ruin what is (supposed) to be a FUN hobby.
Jw what in your opinion they are ruining ? I'm trying to decide to send some in
I sent in 42 cards to SGC. Of those, I got 21 10’s, 18 9.5’s 1 9, 1 8.5 and 1 8. I did zero prepping. They went from packs to sleeves. I was fine with the result.
its over with psa...
What about pre-bent cards from production, like Topps Chrome?
Grading is a scam.
Facts!
👍
Go cry in a corner 😂
L opinion
"It's not just the right and the left sides, you have to look at the top and the bottom".
Yes. Hence the term centering...🤦♂️
Thanks for all of the information. Looking to get back into collecting
Great intel and strategy on your sales. Thanks for sharing.
Very cool of you to speak truth about psa prices...cheers
What about a slight curve in the card? Say if you lay the card on a flat surface and the middle of the card "bows" up off the flat surface but the top & bottom are flat? Does that affect grade?
Yep
The most imformative video I’ve ever seen. If you don’t think Joe Davis is Awesome then you need Awesome Lessons.
I have alot of older cards with off borders, my question is how and why when they printed them are they all not perfectly centered in the first place?
Great video, very informative. Going to go through my card collection and determine possible grading. Thanks.
That app might be the coolest thing I’ve seen in a while 💯
I have two cards that are so far off center on the backs that one has no # on it and the other has the wrong number on it are they worth grading?
Interesting, no mention of centering or surface of the BACK of the card, should that be a concern? and no mention of the cards having some CUPPING like vintage cardboard cards often do, if the card is slight cupped will the be a minus on the grade?
Do they charge for every card sent it? Or just ones they grade
Do you have any advice on centering cards like kaboom or downtown where there's no real borders?
Glad I watched this before I submitted my cards to PSA, I would've screwed it all up. Thank you.
What's to stop them from stealing, switching, damaging or losing your cards?