Thank you for this video. Been playing alto for 20 years and also teaching alto, tenor for 4 years without a formal teacher and baritone for about a month, also no teacher. Now I can set my goals high and eventually try and learn this on the baritone. Baritone is a different beast...so much to learn but loving it.
Another amazing lesson, Jamie! I love Leo P. and his antics. I have just switched from the alto to the tenor. It will be great to try it out with this tune.
This is from the liner notes of the original album it puts a rest to the controversy about what Pepper Adams played. Mingus gave him that line! “I decided to memorize the compositions and then phrase them on the piano part by part to the musicians. (There it is, the proof) I wanted them to learn the music so it would be in their ears, rather than on paper, so they'd play the compositional parts with as much spontaneity and soul as they'd play a solo. And I decided to use a larger group to play in a big band form I'd like to hear that has as many lines going as there are musicians. I called musicians that I knew had great ears for playing and understanding my music. The first tune, Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting, is church music. I heard this as a child when I went to meetings with my mother. The congregation gives their testimonial before the Lord, they confess their sins and sing and should and do a little Holy Rolling. Some preachers cast out demons, they call their dialogue talking in tongues or talking unknown tongue (language that the Devil can’t understand). The solos are taken by John Handy, Willie Dennis, Horace Parlan, Booker Ervin and Dannie Richmond. The Cryin’ Blues is a blues without the usual tonic, sub-dominant, tonic, dominant changes. Booker Ervin opens with the group. After the last solo, Horace Parlan solos on piano, and Jackie McLean plays with the ensemble on the out chorus. Some time before making this album I’d bought a book of Jelly Roll Morton tunes that I planned to arrange. I then misplaced the book, and later I wrote My Jelly Roll Soul - an impression of or afterthoughts on Jelly Roll’s forms and soul. The solos are by Jimmy Knepper, Horace Parlan, Jackie McLean and Dannie Richmond and I pass the progressions around in bars of four and two. E’s Flat Ah’s Flat Too is composed in pyramid lines and canon form. The solos are by Mal Waldron, Booker Ervin, Jackie McLean, John Handy and Dannie Richmond. The solos on Tensions are by myself, Jackie McLean, Booker Ervin and Horace Parlan. In Moanin’, each musician plays separate lines, simple blues lines. The solos are by Jackie McLean, Pepper Adams and Booker Ervin.”
Oh I'm so grateful for you to take us through this Jamie, this one takes me to places I've never been before, so raw and powerful Thank you for breaking it down so well :)
@@GetYourSaxTogether I just finished watching this, it makes so much sense now. I have had no musical background, I turned 30, 3 months ago and I bought myself a new sax in the lockdown. I can't hire a tutor, since things in my country are very dire, but it's because of people like you I have made leaps in my progression in such a short time. I put in 2 hours every day consistently and it's your energy and love for what you do that pushes me to put in the time. Very grateful to all your work. You have a true gift for breaking things down, thank you for sharing it with the world
I think that if Pepper Adams made a mistake, Mingus would be the first to correct him. The original version sounds great to me. What do you think, Jamie? Great video, again!
Hi Jamie, great lesson (as usual). Thinking of other baritone tracks, Dana Colley plays great bari solo on "Buena" by Morphine. would love see that one covered. Thanks again for giving up your Sunday lie in!!
I was only familiar with Bobby Timmons' "Moanin'". Listening to the original Mingus, I cannot imagine that the D natural is a mistake; with this Pepper Adams adds something which sounds very "Mingus" to me. I actually prefer it to the '93 version where the bari plays the Db.
I haven't transcribed it yet and I don't know the harmony but he may played the B natural to create an altered chord [7/9 flat/(9 sharp)/ 11/ (11 sharp)/ 13 flat]. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, as I told you I don't know the harmony but nevertheless that's an option!
Hi Jamie, really loving your “learn how to play___” series :) Could you teach us how to play Branford Marsalis’ sax solo on Shanice’s “I Love Your Smile”? Thanks! You are awesome mate! 🙏🏼
@@GetYourSaxTogether Hahaha! Yeah I thought it was a really beautifully articulated solo there! Hope you will consider featuring it on your channel some day! Cheers! :)
Nice video but it made me stew a little. Pepper Adams play a wrong note? He was a master of the correct "wrong note", and him landing on a B natural instead of B flat made that riff the masterpiece it is. Landing on the B natural caused tension, a favourite trick from Pepper Adams.
Yeh, I know. I was really torn about that. Interestingly on all future recordings, even by the Mingus band, it’s “correct”, and even the rest of the band in that original take play the riff “correct”, so it was obviously written by Mingus that way. Who’s right who’s wrong? Real grey territory. 🧐
@@GetYourSaxTogether Mingus did revise his own songs. One of his trumpet players mentioned how he changed some chords in some songs. I'd say that in the first recording that was the composition. And then, later it was then the updated composition. Call it 'variant 1' vs 'variant 2' or 'original' vs 'final.' As for 'who's wrong?,' no one. There's just different versions. Maybe Mingus wanted less tension a decade later for that song (or it could even just be what he felt like on that day for all I know). Which version should folks today play? Just play the one you like better.
I also note that the trombones play that same D in the beginning matching the bari. If folks don't play that, it seems clearly revisionist to me - 'fixing' it is really simplifying it. As far as 'not making sense,' it does make sense if you think of the upper extensions of a half-diminished chord: the D shows up if you think of this as a half-whole diminished scale type of sound. Basically, Mingus is getting all the notes of that scale as the chord.
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Hi Jamie
I watch every week.....could you possibly do Joel Correy head and heart? Thanks
Adele Banton - Thanks for watching. I’ll check that one out!
I’m 69 I have never played baritone sax until 10 years ago , I’m trying my best but still looking for that one day when it comes together.
You got this! 👍🏻
this is me. i only play bari but i love your channel. he did it on purpose. he has the melody, can play any way he wants.
Hi Sean! Thanks for your comment.
Thank you for this video. Been playing alto for 20 years and also teaching alto, tenor for 4 years without a formal teacher and baritone for about a month, also no teacher. Now I can set my goals high and eventually try and learn this on the baritone. Baritone is a different beast...so much to learn but loving it.
Enjoy the journey!
Another amazing lesson, Jamie! I love Leo P. and his antics. I have just switched from the alto to the tenor. It will be great to try it out with this tune.
Sounds great! Have fun!
Had no idea my alto can sound so deep, first time using this low Bb note, but its soo hard.
Yeh, alto doesn't like low notes really.
This is from the liner notes of the original album it puts a rest to the controversy about what Pepper Adams played.
Mingus gave him that line!
“I decided to memorize the compositions and then phrase them on the piano part by part to the musicians. (There it is, the proof)
I wanted them to learn the music so it would be in their ears, rather than on paper, so they'd play the compositional parts with as much spontaneity and soul as they'd play a solo. And I decided to use a larger group to play in a big band form I'd like to hear that has as many lines going as there are musicians. I called musicians that I knew had great ears for playing and understanding my music.
The first tune, Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting, is church music. I heard this as a child when I went to meetings with my mother. The congregation gives their testimonial before the Lord, they confess their sins and sing and should and do a little Holy Rolling. Some preachers cast out demons, they call their dialogue talking in tongues or talking unknown tongue (language that the Devil can’t understand). The solos are taken by John Handy, Willie Dennis, Horace Parlan, Booker Ervin and Dannie Richmond.
The Cryin’ Blues is a blues without the usual tonic, sub-dominant, tonic, dominant changes. Booker Ervin opens with the group. After the last solo, Horace Parlan solos on piano, and Jackie McLean plays with the ensemble on the out chorus.
Some time before making this album I’d bought a book of Jelly Roll Morton tunes that I planned to arrange. I then misplaced the book, and later I wrote My Jelly Roll Soul - an impression of or afterthoughts on Jelly Roll’s forms and soul. The solos are by Jimmy Knepper, Horace Parlan, Jackie McLean and Dannie Richmond and I pass the progressions around in bars of four and two.
E’s Flat Ah’s Flat Too is composed in pyramid lines and canon form. The solos are by Mal Waldron, Booker Ervin, Jackie McLean, John Handy and Dannie Richmond.
The solos on Tensions are by myself, Jackie McLean, Booker Ervin and Horace Parlan.
In Moanin’, each musician plays separate lines, simple blues lines. The solos are by Jackie McLean, Pepper Adams and Booker Ervin.”
Thanks so much for this! Interesting
Oh I'm so grateful for you to take us through this Jamie, this one takes me to places I've never been before, so raw and powerful
Thank you for breaking it down so well :)
You’re very welcome 😊
@@GetYourSaxTogether could you please let me know how you get the bends in Phrase 3, struggling with my Alto Sax to reproduce it
@@1fude1 try this ruclips.net/video/oq0XJn9qw_4/видео.html
@@GetYourSaxTogether I just finished watching this, it makes so much sense now.
I have had no musical background, I turned 30, 3 months ago and I bought myself a new sax in the lockdown. I can't hire a tutor, since things in my country are very dire, but it's because of people like you I have made leaps in my progression in such a short time. I put in 2 hours every day consistently and it's your energy and love for what you do that pushes me to put in the time.
Very grateful to all your work. You have a true gift for breaking things down, thank you for sharing it with the world
@@1fude1 you’ve just made my day!
yay..thanks Jamie - bari always gets my vote
btw - I prefer the Ronnie Cuber version ;-)
Yeh, I love that version. I love that he totally stacked the first phrase but they kept the take.
Thanks Jamie . Another awesome lesson . I just need you to teach me Leo P's dance moves now ! ; )
Em. Yeh, about that... lol
Thanks Jamie for another great lesson. Really looking forward to next weeks lesson 😊
Yup, it's your time to shine!!! lol
Great video again - good to have some Bari focus. Thanks Jamie.
No problem Paul 👍
Nice one Jamie,invested in a bari a couple of weeks ago so looking forward to having a go at this 🎷
Have fun!
I think that if Pepper Adams made a mistake, Mingus would be the first to correct him. The original version sounds great to me. What do you think, Jamie? Great video, again!
Yeh, it's just kinda weird that the whole rest of the band play the riff different on the same recording. I just dunno!?
Hi Jamie, great lesson (as usual). Thinking of other baritone tracks, Dana Colley plays great bari solo on "Buena" by Morphine. would love see that one covered. Thanks again for giving up your Sunday lie in!!
Great suggestion! Also, Walk On The Wild Side is a popular request.
Leo P May have had a bigger audience, but I loved your presentation. Thx!
Thank you too Marv!
👍👍👍👍👍nice im going to try this on my alto sax tmw
And those bloopers at the end cracked me up😂😂
Thanks!
Man this makes me want to play the bari so badly 😩
do it...best thing I ever did saxwise
Yeh, it does doesn't it!
Yup!
I was only familiar with Bobby Timmons' "Moanin'". Listening to the original Mingus, I cannot imagine that the D natural is a mistake; with this Pepper Adams adds something which sounds very "Mingus" to me. I actually prefer it to the '93 version where the bari plays the Db.
Yeh I guess I think that as well, although in the lesson I wimped out!
I had a similar thought to you. The D actually makes sense to me. And, playing it in direct opposition to the Db is just very Mingus-like tension.
Great stuff again Jamie thank you
Anytime Geoff.
I haven't transcribed it yet and I don't know the harmony but he may played the B natural to create an altered chord [7/9 flat/(9 sharp)/ 11/ (11 sharp)/ 13 flat]. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, as I told you I don't know the harmony but nevertheless that's an option!
What altered chord? I understand an altered chord, but what root note?
Hi Jamie, really loving your “learn how to play___” series :) Could you teach us how to play Branford Marsalis’ sax solo on Shanice’s “I Love Your Smile”? Thanks! You are awesome mate! 🙏🏼
I'll check it out!
That's about as close as you'll ever hear Branford get to Smooth Jazz I reckon! lol Nice solo.
@@GetYourSaxTogether Hahaha! Yeah I thought it was a really beautifully articulated solo there! Hope you will consider featuring it on your channel some day! Cheers! :)
Ben D I’ve got a few to get through, but one day I will!
Get Your Sax Together looking forward to it! 👍🏼
I like that, very cool!
Thanks Pat.
Awesome! 💗🎷
Thanks a lot!
Any tips for the altissimo fingerings for the Ronnie Cuber intro?
Sorry I haven't transcribed it - don't know what the notes are.
Great.
Thanks 🙏🏻
You are the fkn MAN!!!!!
Thanks Mark!
Hey!! Is that Mouthpiece (Bari) a JJ DV Platinum 20th Anniversary?
Schweet!
Em... it's a JJ for sure, but not sure if it's a 20th anniversary. I've had it a while.
What bari do you have? That’s a cool lookin one
Just a Yamaha 32. Nothing fancy.
Nice! 🏆🏆🏆
:-)
Nice video but it made me stew a little. Pepper Adams play a wrong note? He was a master of the correct "wrong note", and him landing on a B natural instead of B flat made that riff the masterpiece it is. Landing on the B natural caused tension, a favourite trick from Pepper Adams.
Yeh, I know. I was really torn about that. Interestingly on all future recordings, even by the Mingus band, it’s “correct”, and even the rest of the band in that original take play the riff “correct”, so it was obviously written by Mingus that way. Who’s right who’s wrong? Real grey territory. 🧐
@@GetYourSaxTogether Mingus did revise his own songs. One of his trumpet players mentioned how he changed some chords in some songs. I'd say that in the first recording that was the composition. And then, later it was then the updated composition. Call it 'variant 1' vs 'variant 2' or 'original' vs 'final.' As for 'who's wrong?,' no one. There's just different versions. Maybe Mingus wanted less tension a decade later for that song (or it could even just be what he felt like on that day for all I know). Which version should folks today play? Just play the one you like better.
@@km6206 great comment 👍🏻
bari player here !!!! c:
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I duo tenor and bari
nice!
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Good job3:-)
Thank you! Cheers!
I've just bought a Bari. Don't it take some puff!
Can do, yeh. Make sure your reed isn't too hard though.
I am using a 2 1/2. I normally use a 2 1/2 on Tenor or a 3 if it's Fibracell as I find they soften a bit after a while
Steve Povey Cool. Good luck with the Bari, it’s a different beast!
Indeed. thanks
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there's no way Pepper Adams made a mistake. You're insulting his intelligence.
I also note that the trombones play that same D in the beginning matching the bari. If folks don't play that, it seems clearly revisionist to me - 'fixing' it is really simplifying it. As far as 'not making sense,' it does make sense if you think of the upper extensions of a half-diminished chord: the D shows up if you think of this as a half-whole diminished scale type of sound. Basically, Mingus is getting all the notes of that scale as the chord.
I agree with you actually.
Fair point.
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