Dictating virginity | DW Documentary
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- In many parts of the world, questions surrounding virginity have seemed to be on the verge of disappearing. But despite the sexual revolution, the idea of preserving virginity has seen a resurgence of late.
The film looks at growing movements promoting abstinence until marriage in the United States and Europe. As more and more women choose to join such movements, those in other places often have no choice. In Maghreb, for example, women must yield to tests to inspect their virginity. The pressure to be able to demonstrate virginity is so great that each year, a number of women resort to operations such as hymenoplasty, to reconstruct the hymen, which can be ruptured in any number of non-sexual ways. Despite all of this obsessive interest, the film shows that, physiologically, virginity does not exist. So what does it stand for, in our contemporary world?
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Alabama is in the top 10 of highest teen pregnancy rates, so something tells me that teaching abstinence and holding purity balls isn't the way to go.
@Dr S What??! 😂
Same with the drugz
Welcome to Alabama
I bet all these girls are emptying some dude's purity balls as soon as daddy leaves the room.
Aaaannd.... That's how the cookie crumbles. 😁😁😁
This is so creepy to me. Also passing a girl from one male authority to another male authority, so when does she actually become a woman who gets to choose her own path? This isn't about purity at all, this is all about control. This is infuriating and sickening. Women are full human beings we can make our own choices in life.
I know right? They won't let them fully become adults until it's convenient to them (bearing children, do house chores etc) Stunting their development horribly.
@@alejandraayala8815 In islam, it's haram & Allah's order!
@@koushikdas1992 yeah but she doesn't seem to be muslim, so it doesn't make sense in this context
@Magne M Any data on n’en doing the same since they started all wars due to being in positions of power
@Dr SSpreading misinformation on the RUclips comments doesn’t qualify as a doctorate.
I live in muslim-majority Indonesia. My guy friends who sleeps with girls said they want to marry virgin girls. The irony lol.
Oh
It is those psychos only that want virgin. Nobody cares about virginity except misogynist psychopaths
Mathematically not quite feasible, right? ;)
Bilangin ke temennya, jangan nikah!!!!!!
@@nataliaa2398 what? How can wanting something makes ones psychopath? 🤷
I think the craziest thing from this documentary is that no matter how advanced our medicine becomes, the anatomy of a woman is still a mystery to so many people- including women! We are hardly (if ever) taught about our bodies in a positive way.
I'll always be grateful that my parents left a lot of good reference books on the topic of sex lying around (They knew we'd eventually get around to reading everything in the house). They didn't have to worry about the presence or absence of sex ed in schools, or about us being too uncomfortable to ask them questions.
So much of women's anatomy hasn't even been researched medically yet, and a lot of gynecological practices are barbaric. There are genuinely doctors who think all women can't feel pain in their cervix. It's a disgrace.
Well in science there has been this thing. Where you can't do any studies, trials etc on women.. guess why!
Bcs we are full own hormones who gravely disturbe the results.🤣
So medicine 100% intended for biological women are tried out on men.. that's somehow been a better way🤦♀️
@@RaineStormFlood Agreed. When I got my Pap smear done, my cervix had to be dilated, and it felt so uncomfortable.
Why pick on women?!
"Purity being the highest value in a young woman's life."
Okay... so it is not hardwork, self-love, discipline, or kindness. It's purity, really?
especially in the conservative areas they mentioned it is absolutely true
Think of it from a perspective of competition.
Men provide resources and Women provide children.
Therefore Men are going to be encouraged to have characteristics that serve their ability to have children.
While Women will be valued more when there’s a guarantee that the children she gives birth to are his.
Not making any moral judgments on it. Just explaining the logic behind this reoccurring pattern across various cultures.
@@jacobodom8401 uh-oh- if you’re actually talking about logic, how does it make sense, given what you’re saying, that women have such a shorter recovery time required between sexual acts? Why would it make sense, evolutionarily, for most women to achieve multiple orgasm, so much more easily than most men?
Also, if men’s’ value is just providing resources, why would I ever need a man, if I am already providing that for my own family, without the participation of a man?
Instead, if both participants are valued partners, with individual skill sets and areas of strength which are specific to the human individual, rather than to 50-51% of the entire world’s population, it makes men less fragile, because if it’s just that they’re providing resources,…any man can do that…I can see how that could be very confronting/intimidating for the man. It’s not true though- that’s not how a quality partner of a woman makes her choice- rather, she chooses the particular individual, and it could be for any number of qualities, such as conscientiousness, respect, appreciation, humor, creativity, courage, resourcefulness, etc.
On the other hand, judging by your criteria, why do people bother to stay coupled up, once they’re past the age of reproductive viability? Why would a man bother to stay married, or in a committed relationship with a woman, once she has entered menopause, if reproductive viability is her most important contribution to the relationship?
I am not seeking to have an argument; I have zero interest in being right.
If anything I’ve said, invites you to more critically examine anything you’ve stated, that’s excellent.
I do respect your candor - I hope you are courageous in willingness to re-examine the ideas you’ve represented.
Blessed be! :)
@blkpillaLAkilla , so a lazy woman with a nasty character is fine as long as she's virgin, right? Even in religions virginity was important for marriage, but actual character traits and behaviour were important for heaven, reincarnation etc. People did not transcend only based on virginity.
Correct. Purity and youth it is. All the other things you mentioned are only interesting if the basics are there.
"Dressing modest is protecting our brothers in Christ and helping them stay pure too" - I hate how Churches and schools use the the same argument on young girls
But that statement happens to be true.
@@athenamissinghome619 so, boys are animals that can´t control themselves nor can learn to respect women regardless of the garments they wear. Wow
@@mandalorian8005 well I certainly wouldn’t say males are animals. But there are definitely good reasons for modesty. If you don’t understand this, then you simply don’t understand.
@@mandalorian8005 it is more complex than that little girl. Ask your question to a real man, maybe he will answer to you.. and go "wow" else where ,its serious subject around here
@@diksa366 I am. Please explain the deep complexities of education to this man.
A man that sleeps around and then requires a virgin for marriage is a hypocrite. And it’s the same for women. If you want to save yourself for marriage, fine; however don’t damn someone else for choosing another path.
That is the case that he would be a hypocrite.
Still, a woman's virginity is one of her greatest treasures. More precious than jewels of expensive clothes.
These men and women that stay virgin until their marriage deserve praise, not mockery.
@@tudormardare66 Women are living breathing human beings not some sort of treasure. If you value a woman only by her choice to abstain from fricking and nothing else then you should just get a s e x doll or something lol, they're guaranteed to be "pure". True, people who save themselves til marriage shouldn't be mocked for it, and neither should people who chose not to. But neither deserve praise, neither are some type of accomplishment, it's literally just a thing that you do/ don't do.
@@claireelizabeth9431 It is an accomplishment for both men and women to abstain from fornication.
In the Orthodox Church, this is the reason they are put crowns on their heads, just like winners of a race in ancient times.
In the Orthodox Church, signifies victory over passions.
It is not just as as easy as a choice. You may have given up your virginity very quickly and thought it was a choice, but for those that chose to save until marriage, they did have to go through a very hard struggle, and fought the demons of fornication. They should indeed be praised for defeating demons.
@@tudormardare66 "Hard struggle". Lmao. Most people who are virgins either can't get anyone to agree to sleep with them or just don't find sleeping with people to be a pleasurable experience. Personally I am ace, I've never had the urge to do it so I am still a virgin. It's not some personal accomplishment or something that I am proud of, or ashamed of, it's literally just a life choice that I made based on my own desires (or lack of desire in my case). Good on you I guess if you want to do it but are waiting until marriage, but if you are legit struggling because of it then I find that a bit weird, like just do what you want with your life. Why are you purposely choosing to make yourself struggle? If you like struggling then cool I guess, as I said, you do you. But don't project your odd beliefs onto others. Virginity is literally just a made up thing anyway, there is no way to be able to tell whether someone is "still a virgin". Unless you get mentally screwed up from sleeping around too much, but that doesn't happen to everyone, just certain people.
@Dr S I should have phrased that differently. What I meant to say is that virginity isn't a physical three dimensional thing, it's a concept that us humans made up, which yes means someone who has never had s e x before. But there is no way to tell whether someone is a virgin or not unless they tell you so. For all you know they could be lying to you and you'd never know. People talk about "loosing" their virginity, which doesn't make any sense because you don't "lose" anything. You just gain an experience. But having s e x for the first time doesn't take anything away from you.
I'm glad that you find my virginity to be interesting lol, but it doesn't make me any better or worse of a person so I don't really get the hype tbh
I love that the narrator is a man, and the passion in his voice against this abuse of women was truly heart-warming - thank you, sir, whoever you are. An excellent documentary, brought tears to my eyes that now there is something to share in order to bring down all the Altars to Hymen.
I thought the same!! The guy was PISSED about these double standards!! It's amazing to have him as an ally!
Hi I am from Portugal would like get to know each other if you don't mind thanks
“He’s just protecting her because he’s a man and knows how other men think” What a weird way of saying he also has disgusting thoughts about women and girls
I’m so thankful I was allowed to be myself and not treated like an object that could be “damaged”. My heart goes out to these poor kids who grow up thinking their worth is measured by their virginity. Not only their own dreams and emotions don’t matter, but the ones who suffer sexual abuse (So common in communities were abstinence is preached but consent is never explained) end up hating themselves because they think they lost their “purity”
Since when has sex become impure? Is it considered "dirty" because the genitals closeness to the digestional functions?
Statistics say that most abuse worldwide, are done by close relatives.
Not just communities. Regardless of beliefs.
The other side of the coin is that girls and boys are measured by the amount of sexual partners. Which are in some western countries to be about 20.
Knowing something but not acting upon it, are two different things.
It's a scientific fact that women gossip more than man. Would a female be bad for trying to protect naive boys against other girls for this?
These people, including the adult wife and others with the same mindset, which is based upon the Bible, don't consider it to be bad. They don't want to be protected by a rebel or player.
As for wanting to have physical evidence, having no trust is the main issue.
Of course it's good to be able to fend for yourself, but as the USA has a high crime rate and the girls are still very young, it's understandable. The father wants to make sure the future spouse is sincere, especially in an age where young women are abused by loverboys and social media.
It would have been better if the documentary would balance the topic by pointing out on all the requirements of the man, biblical speaking.
This way, it doesn't look like a Christian male just want to control the female as some sort of slave.
One of the main messages in the Bible is that morality goes hand in hand with self control. And having a balance in things that are good.
In that line, the anthropologist saying "what about" doesn't count for it's already in that same package.
This goes for both male and female.
Almost everything in life is just a matter of choice, self control, being responsible and exercising willpower.
So basically your happy you could have sex with and with whoever you wished 🤮
I feel sorry for you for being an object instead of an honoured women like these girls 👧
@@eliteremovalistsbrisbane1066 That’s a great way to think, Paul
The father-daughter ball made me very uncomfortable
I agree little bit odd
Why?
@@lyndelld1
A father who makes his daughter sign a paper wherein he controls her sexual activity is f--king weird. This is misogynistic clap trap BS that only a controlling psychopath would engage in.
It’s creepy and incestuous af!
Nauseous, actually….
It’s so creepy and disturbing how the Dad is in charge of her virginity. Gross
Agree. Total turnoff.
Anything BUT "purity".
Definitely creepy. Something's just not right about this.
What about the mom?
It's Alabama, what you expect.
Fascinating documentary looking at lots of different perspectives, culturally varied interviews. The historical and scientific backgrounds are quite carefully explained, outstanding. For my money the Norwegian medical scientists who wrote the enlightening book for girls and women were a breath of fresh air, what we need beyond being locking young people into fear, ignorance. Keeping girls and women in the dark only leads to them being disempowered and potentially open to emotional abuse and psychological damage.
Thanks for watching.
Just started watching and within the first three minutes there’s a strong ‘culty’ vibe
I was just disgusted under first two minutes
I knew it Evangelical . I'm Lutheran. We tell our kids . You know you should probably wait till you're older . At young age to many emotions going on. . And yes it should be with someone special. For both boys and girls .
Since when did cults start putting their "meetings" on tape for everyone to see? You better go check what "cult" means. Their trade mark is secrecy. If you are not a member you won't know other members. They are so secretive that you could be married to one and you would not know. This that we see is a religious ceremony, not a cult.
I got that feeling early on.
Like, 2:00 - WTH?
Oh lovely. She is under her father's control until her wedding where she comes under her husbands control.
MERICA
@@Nekr0n35 more like religion. The bane of free society.
These motherfuckers were everywhere, Like in India this was written in "Manusmriti".
@@Nekr0n35 just parts of ‘merica. You don’t find this kind of nonsense on the west coast of the US or the northeast. Or if you do it’s hidden away
Makes me sick
I feel like “purity” is an extension of ownership of women that men historically have held and in some ways still wish to maintain. Whether that’s the husband, father, leader. A woman’s purity is directly related to the “quality” of a man’s “property.”
it's also about the quality of the woman, since woman who have slept around are less capable of maintaining a relationship
@@freppie_ in your mind does that apply to men as well?
It's about men demanding ownership women's bodies. Again.
Your basically correct Allison. "Femanism" has been described as "the revolutionary idea that women are people too". Rather than as "commodities" which have to be kept "pure". The underling thing that really powers this historically - as opposed to the 'Jesus wants her for a sunbeam' stuff is the male fear of being cuckolded. Mommy's babies daddy's maybes.
@@rileysel1548 bro in reality, women sleep with many men than men sleep with many women
This had me like “OMG 🤦♂️” over and over and over throughout the film!
This doc does a nice job of highlighting the myth of virginity, and addressing the many issues and problems surrounding purity culture.
This is terrifying. A woman’s worth reduced to her hymen.
This is why I let a guy destroy my hymen.
@Dr S what a bullshit) telegony)))))does it work with condoms?
@Dr S
Feel sorry for you. I wonder how you treat your wife, daughters, nieces etc..
@Dr S I'm study medicine and this is a LIE. Worms for brains. Facebook articles aren't science sweetie...
No hymen no dimond
I don't understand why the fathers so involved in something so personal
Maybe cuz they have to since it's not online
Coz they exactly know how men can be a beast especially when it comes to sex and women lol. They have been there and now they are scared for karma. 🤣
Father's responsibility until she gets married. my opinion
What kind of comment is that??? Of course the PARENTS are invoiced. It’s the MOTHER and FATHER who are raising their daughters with virtues. Did you watch the video until the end??
@@liishuu4 why do you think someone should have control over another persons body especially in such a way ? Disgusting
If men don't need to be virgin to get married then so does woman. I know that when I myself have no sexual experience. You can marry as a virgin or not, that's not important. Marry someone you love, you don't need to be virgin for that. There is no guarantee that virgins will be good partner. Good humans will be good partner, its that simple.
Many researches prove happy marriages where a woman was a virgin to his husband. Even divorce rates drop significantly and raise with body counts
@@alphabeta3105 please cite your sources.
Many thanks .
@@Dingdongbingaling German and Russian research results coincide as well
C#hing c#hong that applies for everybody men and both.
@@alphabeta3105 thats not because of love... Most of women are conditioned and they believe that they wont get another life. So divorce rate may be low...
Here is what my parents taught me about sex when I was a teenage girl.
My father: nothing. Women's sexuality was not exactly his area of expertise, so he kept out of it.
My mother: how to recognize when I am ready to have sex, how to have sex responsibly, how to resist peer pressure when it comes to sexuality, how to have safe sex, both it terms of condom use and in terms of partner choice, how to communicate with sexual partners and listen to them/demand they listen to me, how to recognize sexual assault and aggression. Very importantly, she also encouraged me to discover myself sexually and understand a bit of what I like or don't like before I go out to seek partners with whom to try it out.
Neither of them ever mentioned the words "virginity" or "purity", and I am eternally grateful to them for that (and many other things).
How I was taught, and how I taught my kids. Knowledge is power.
All these activities about purity don‘t adress sexual violence. If your take womens autonomy over their body and what they want to do with it they have a hard time to stand up for themselves. This whole concept about purity is a power imbalance that a lot of people want to preserve.
Sexual violence is about power. Where the will is not in agreement then the victim of this violence is as pure as before.
This is so fucked up I couldn't watch
It’s nothing to do with power imbalance, if anything, their desire and overall RIGHT to retain their virginity until marriage is them expressing their bodily autonomy. That’s their choice and their power. Women who are the victims of sexual violence are not treated as if they have done something wrong, their right to be in control of their bodies was taken away from them, they’re not to blame for that.
Word.
@@UIAL570 it's easy to think that way if it's how you were raised. They don't have much of a choice even if they think so. They can't think differently because their fathers "take care of them" in the worst possible way.
Why would a grown man be obsessed with his daughters virginity? Could it be that for some reason he thinks that his daughters value as a future bride will be somehow lower If she isn't a virgin?
From a man’s perspective I get it. There is less risk with false paternity with a virgin. Woman who have the sex in the city free sex mindset are a risk. “aka App hook up woman,” You want to know your not marrying a woman who is Not a 304 or was or has problem with child bearing due to her sexual play days.
Woman want men with potential future and men want woman without a terrible past. And if your past is something embarrassing like sleeping around it makes him and his family look bad, and in muslim countries family’s opinion is important, clan/village. Don’t embarrass your people. Don’t marry a 304 or woman with sexual hot girl summer past.
Im not judging these men who want virgin wives. Because thats their preference. Just as they won’t say nothing when woman want men with money and 6’1 hight, looks and potential.
But virginity obsessed fetish folks are weird, I would say vetting the person is better than just going off with the Hyman, (pun un intended)as it can be faked as shown here.
@Dr S which probably gives the offspring an advantage actually. When you look at the health and intelligence of people who come from more sexually liberated societies for women compared with much more patriarchal roots the offspring of liberated women come out on top.
Sounds like total horses..t. This is real life dr moron not Spiderman comic where a bite from a radioactive spider can change your dna.
I wonder why he didn't thought about gay mans DNA constantly changing their brains. Get this: if a gay man changes his patrners DNA due to exchanging semen, than at some point genetically they'll be like twins💥mind blown. What f...ing nonsense.
I apologize in advance for speaking bluntly but to help you to at least "understand" their side, the issue is this: they were obsessed because men (including themselves) don't want a wife who was fucked by others. They think women as a property, and marying a nonvirgin is more like a using a second hand car. Would you rather to use second hand car or new car??? And it doesn't matter if their wife had sex with another man "before or after" marriage. They feel cheated the same way!! And if your daughter is not virgin, basically you get bullied by society , they call you names like pimp (especially by the groom and his family for not be able to keep your daughter on the line), having big horns.....etc
In these societies the honor is linked to sexual activity rather than cheating, stealing, lying..etc. Check out the societies with "virginitymania", they almost are all corrupted!!!
Men adding this moral pressure on another gender & at the same time often exploiting that gender, whereby damaging the trajectory of young women's lives, all seems quite absurd in modern age.
Do you think casual sex has ever damaged the trajectory of anyone's life? Because it has.
Point is ideally each person has a right to their own autonomy, regardless of gender. Whoosh still in the stone-age?
Who is deflecting from the point of contention?! My comment is not anti commitment nor anti healthy bonds. Perhaps unaware of global exploitation of young women (Global Epstein types) or honour cruelties such as by Yaser Said or a skewed negative exaggerated perspective of Western culture? The problem with societal conditioning, the status quo ignores the rotten worldwide demand for such imbalance, which exploits young women. Perhaps you have all been triggered and it baffles me that misogynists do not understand how damaging this is to society. This moral posturing where men continue to ACT AS IF they are somehow "superior & have dominion over women's choices", what a joke.
@Magne M worldwide issue; why minimize & be a typical dismissive type as it adds to the entrenched status quo that refuses to create a healthier balanced perspective amongst your peers (edit:modern age ≠ disrespecting healthy bonds & does not imply anti abstinence nor anti virginity regardless of gender)
@Magne M you are showing your ignorance so at this point do some self education: to start IS exploiting DWs recent "The Forgotten Victims of IS". Also India selling their children for purpose of child slavery for you guessed it the male demand to defile them. You turning a blind eye just proves a point that morality is each persons duty to embrace & uphold (meaning social justice work or at least being SOMEWHAT informed & you are not).
The two Norwegian doctors educating people about the hymen are awesome!
they are my favorite people.
"Under the moral authority of the father." Cut the BS This isn't about morality it's about control.
Devil's advocate. Is it better than having 2-3 kids from different fathers and living off welfare ? because that is wayyyyyyyyy more common than these virginity contracts.
That's religion for you. They must control the population
Even social media is about control.
Thank you for this comment
@@casey98 Having better sex education and teaching them strong boundaries for these women would be better than these purity contracts. This is indeed about control.
There's something seriously wrong and incestual about a father taking his daughter to event like this like this is disgusting.
Exactly my thoughts , it is so creepy
Not really, they just call them Daddy daughter dances nowadays!
and that too in usa where they claim to be so open minded. what do you expect then in rest of the developing countries
Yes, I’m glad these weren’t a thing when I was a girl😂
It is in Alabama, after all.
Women can make one baby per year. Men can make 365+. Who should really keep their virginity?
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Exactly!
That is a statement!!!
Everyone
@@nataliaa2398 hi sweet natalia i like u💖
A part of the problem is leaving men and boys out of the discussion. I remember when during puberty, medical professionals would come to the school to talk to us about sex, but whenever the presentations led to girl specific discussions, the boys were invited to leave. Or some presentations were kept separate for each sex. Growing up I learned more about the other sex from watching porn than adults cared about teaching me about it.
How can we think that equality between men and women can be achievable nowadays when things like this are still widely accepted parts of cultures/religions around the world..
You're right
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
not just that but how can we even think we are advanced. This is USA, one hand, advanced modern wise future proof, the other hand is disgusting, primitive, caveman mentality, religious freaks, all knowing, backwater, etc. can go on but i think my point is clear. Just boggles the mind. I mean im so sad ppl like this still live among us, still exist, still know shit, and wont educate themselves cause they probably think that devil wants nothing but that and he will go for lies to achieve that goals and no matter what wise and intelligent ppl will tell them, will be never enough and they wont believe this. So sad that it hurts my soul that primitives like that still exist and will exist for maybe many decades until finally perfhaps they wont anymore. I hope they die out eventually. And humanity may progress further in this and other like minded fields.
From a man’s perspective I get it. There is less risk with false paternity with a virgin. Woman who have the sex in the city free sex mindset are a risk. “aka App hook up woman,” You want to know your not marrying a woman who is Not a 304 or has problem with child bearing due to her sexual play days.
Woman want men with potential future and men want woman without a terrible past. And if your past is something embarrassing like sleeping around it makes him and his family look bad, and muslim countries family’s opinion is important. Don’t marry a 304 or woman with sexual hot girl summer past.
Im not judging these men who want virgin wives. Because thats their preference. Just as they won’t say nothing when woman want men with money and 6’1 hight, looks and potential.
But virginity obsessed fetish folks are weird, I would say vetting the person is better than just going off with the Hyman, (pun un-intended)
as it can be faked as shown here.
@@everx7 I Aggree with you however I find women's rights are currently under treat in USA and EU by backward Conservative nonsense. I think this will not go way unfortunately....
Our world is literally one big insane asylum! 🤡
Hahahaha!
People be cray cray
You only just figured this out?
I never thought such crazy things happen in America.
“We don’t just dress modestly to protect ourselves and our purity, but to protect our brothers in Christ to help them stay pure too”. Oh, okay...'cause it's their job to make sure the guys keep it in their pants. 🙄 This is why we still hear BS excuses for assault like "well, look at how she was dressed. How could he have helped himself?"
Actually,ANYONE who takes the body of another is totally at fault.A person who is raped is without has NOTHING to ashamed of. The perpetrator/s of the actions the inexcusable ones who should be ashamed. And men can be ,and have been , victims of rape.Anyone who thinks themselves Christian should follow the word of Christ, and pass such crass remarks against those who have suffered.
Sorry Brittani, I misread your comment.My apologies to you.
Fair enough. Those excuses for assault are indeed ridiculous. That aside, it is interesting to see how men must always shut up about things like mood swings in periods of menstruation and pregnancy. Because we don't experience it, we can't talk about it. We don't have a vagina or uterus, so we can't talk about it or make any decisions about it. So I put it to you: you as a woman, and to all women. You don't have high levels of testosterone. Your levels of testosterone peak out at max 75ng/dl. While men's can top out at 1200ng/dl. That's 16 times as much. As you know, testosterone, among other things, maintained the libido. So is it really such a terrible idea to dress modestly around people who can get 16 times as horny as you can possibly get? You have no experience with that. You have no idea what it is like. And if you say "well that is their problem". Fine, I'll accept that. But then you must also accept that women's mood swings and hormonal imbalances are their problem. And men have 0 responsibility to care about that. It's either both, or none. Can't cherry pick. Me, personally, I think we should all be compassionate and understanding. And from your side, that means understanding that men, especially younger men, are incredibly influenced by hormones and that dressing sexy or provocative does nothing to help that. But hey, that's just me. I'll be happy to spread the word among men to not give a shit about women's hormonal imbalances either if you prefer it that way. Just let me know :)
@@nospam4279 Best and most real argument on the subject I've seen. Although you give the option, where I would say there isnt an option. Yes its wrong (and I never have nor would pressure a female into doing anything she didn't want), men do have strong urges and some, especially young, have a real issue controlling these urges. Look at the animal kingdom and the rage that male elephants, pretty much all hoofed animals and monkeys among others, display once they are young males ready to mate.
My thoughts exactly when I heard that help poor guys speech...
This is so creepy. I can’t imagine being that obsessed with my child’s sex life, or wanting to have that much involvement in it!
And yet some people find gender reveal parties for babies as creepy. I’d rather go to a gender reveal party then a purity ball.
@@PrincessKLS "gender reveal" parties are creepy af. Having a party so everyone knows what's between your baby's legs? Gross. We need to stop putting so much weight on anyone's genitals, like.. there are things 10x more important
Preach!!
01:05
"her date isn't anyone of her own age, but it's her dad..."
🎶 *_Sweet Home Alabama_* 🎶
That was so biased and wrong of the narrator.
Hahahaha
Where the sky is blue
*_cue the Deliverance banjo duel_*
Why is this a discussion? There are no requirements for males to be virgins, and there should be no requirements for women to be either.
Are you a woman?
@@postedback what dafuq does it matter?
Because such concepts and importance placed on it exists. The discussions in a way helps for more and more people to question this concept.
@Tim De Jong if there is a requirement for men in Islam, clearly there is little enforcement of the rules on men and you know this so stop acting ignorant of the facts.
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
The first part of this documentary creeped me out so bad I almost didn't watch the rest. I'm glad I did. Great documentary! It should be shown to all kids at 10 years old.
Never
@@tiffprendergast hm maybe at 12 then can agree that 10 is a little early but at 12 definitely
This is extremely degrading, ignorant, and heartbreaking. I can't even think how those young girls will feel when they realize what's going on.
Spoiled ''purity'' = doing one of the most humanitarian acts
Brainwashed
Informative documentary that broadly covers how different cultures view virginity. The question of “if virginity is widely a female concern then who are unmarried men sleeping with” would have been interesting to pose.
“Woman's virtue is man's greatest invention.”
― Cornelia Otis Skinner
This is the quote
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
@@dibmalek6412😂🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Nah, the greatest inventions are electricity, internal combustion engine, internet and stuff like that.
@@dibmalek6412 Oh no! You are missing real moral beauty of Islam__☠️__ 'SUICIDE BOMBING'.
Watching the "father-daughter" vows and whatnot brought me back to my own childhood and the shame behind the loss of virginity. I look back at the ring they had put on my finger as a promise to "keep myself pure" and feel physically sick. Not only were the rings a symbol of this commitment, but there were often contracts signed between the daughter and father/parents. It just makes me cringe now.
Damm am sorry
You feel physically sick because you made a vow that you failed to uphold since you don't value yourself.
@@in_slowmotion wow you're a horrible person. Thanks for letting me know.
It’s terrible to remember the whole thing 😵💫
It must be so hard for you. I hope things are better for you now and you're able to heal. ✨💕
How I wish with my whole heart that was a scholarship ball! Spotlight young woman’s accomplishments whether academic, artistic, or athletic. Promote confidence, independence, and self-determination. And both parents created this memory with their daughter.
Makes no sense if the same standards are not held for males. Quite uncomfortable that their father is so involved in such a personal matter such as virginity.
Are you stupid? Men and woman aren't the same, of course there are different standards
@@kevinhodge4730 I agree with the last part of your comment, not the first
@@kevinhodge4730 How many people do you know who settled down with the first person they were with? Why can't women make the same mistakes that men can? Pairbonding for life means nothing or divorces just wouldn't be a thing. In fact most people who stay with their 'first love' regret it.
@@ashuranero5721 uh huh, because men are soo 'special', how do men and women even belong to the same species?
@Zee A Men and woman are not the same in the west. A man who gets alot of girls is considered high value by both men and woman.
Woman think a virgin man is a loser, lacks confidence and is not fun. while men think virgin woman are pure.
Getting sex for a man is not easy. So a man who sleeps with alot of woman is considered a high value. a man who has status, money , looks and is typically blue check fame man. As for a woman, she just has to exist “i.e be a woman”to get sex thrown at her. Cause testosterone is the driver of sex in men. Always on and always ready.
A woman who sleeps around is considered a 304. Not someone to being home to mom.
in reality a small minority of men are having sex. Because the things that make a man attractive take time to develop. usually in his late 20s and early 30s. Money, confidence, status and career. While for a woman she just has to look good to men. Men are visual. So yeah thats why men’s virginity is not regulated by society and customs. Your way off viewing it as a double standard.
Its not a double standard because they are not the same. It would be a double standard if they were the same gender and were treated differently.
As much as super neutral documentaries are nice, I appreciate the very blunt "anti" stance this documentary takes.
The sexual pressures placed on women are cruel and unethical, and that fact should not be shied from. The concept of virginity is a rather absurd thing, and is based in religion and pseudoscience rather than something objective.
Hmm I was thinking the opposite. I would have liked them to interview married couple that had waited till marriage and seen what their relationship is like. There are lots of happy people who have only slept with one person.
The Hymen is part of the female anatomy. It wasn't placed there without purpose. If you believe Human anatomy is "pseudoscience," the entire Medical field would like to have a laugh at you.
@@in_slowmotion
The concept of the hymen is not pseudoscience. The concept of the hymen indicating sexual activity _is_ pseudoscience, and that's what I'm referring to.
The hymen does serve a purpose - it protects the vaginal canal from infection during infancy. Beyond that point, it is redundant.
There are a couple of misconceptions about the hymen. Namely:
1. That it is a seal of some kind. It's actually just an elastic, ring-like membrane.
2. That it tears
a) only during penetrative sex
b) always during penetrative sex
c) and remains torn forever
In reality, the hymen (being elastic) is able to stretch, and isn't supposed to tear at all. When a woman is adequately aroused and secreting enough of her own natural lubricant, there isn't enough friction against the hymen to tear it and cause bleeding.
Also, there are many things that can cause the hymen to tear other than penetrative sex when not adequately aroused. When a woman is riding a bike or a horse, doing gymnastics, or doing any kind of sport, she's obviously not going to be aroused or prepared for any kind of penetration or vaginal manipulation. However, in an accident in any of the above sports, the hymen can actually tear if there is sudden impact to the crotch (for example, a gymnast falling on a beam, or doing the splits for the first time). These are all non sexual ways that the hymen can be affected. It's not sexy, it's just physics.
Furthermore, the hymen is a tissue like any other, and is fully capable of repairing itself if it _does_ tear. A woman can bleed having sex for the first time due to lack of arousal, and then her hymen heals and she can bleed having sex for the 100th time due to lack of arousal.
The hymen isn't pseudoscience, but the ideas around it are, and the entire medical field actively laughs at anyone who thinks it's a reliable way to determine sexual activity of a woman.
@@Parrot5884 holy shit you killed them! Excellent response!
@@Parrot5884 LOUDER FOR THE MISOGYNISTS IN THE BACK! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Isn't it common sense fathers shouldn't have sex with their daughters?
Hahahahahaha
That's gross.
😂😂😂
@Dr S protection from what???? virginity is up to the woman if she wishes to loose it or not.....and exactly what are we loosing here???? Perhaps childhood but everyone looses this somehow as part of becoming an adult, so I do not see what is so scary or wrong with that....
@Dr S the fact that a father can have any say in his daughter's sexuaity is creepy and wrong ew...
When the doctor and the author from Oslo said "Anatomically speaking, virginity wasn't exist and cant be verified " I literally gasp, i been trapped into the society that create a stereotipycal judgement of women purity = virginity wtf. Women has been scrutiny for ages based on "virginity" topics and it turns out was just a part of political misconceptions and male fantasy.
This documenter is so crucial, should widely spread in all over the world, educational platform, idk just everywhere!!!!.
I'm going to cringe for 42 minutes.
I only made it to 35 minutes.
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
wow you all are great, I couldn't stand it for 4 mints. It was pure disgusting dad goes on a date with his daughter to sign paper about her private part! Gross
@@dibmalek6412 that is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Millions of women lead perfectly good productive and fulfilling lives following different moral standards. Who are you to judge?
@@deepdown.youtube yesss
DW could follow up with "The Morality of Men" and how they are holding their Worldwide male peers accountable for improving social constructs & preventing sociopathic damaging non-consensual acts against the young &/or women.
I know many are involved in Criminal Justice efforts to correct the wrongs, but I am referring to the general accepted norms amongst men & whether they challenge a malignant status quo.
Well said
👏👏👏👏both men and women just let's this slide when it's a massive problem
If the girl has a girlfriend then game over for her "caring" father :)
Makes things simpler. No unwanted pregnancies. Win. Win.
😂
by this back-ass "LOGIC" displayed, it would mean, he won.
"his" girl is never going to be defiled!!
@@arnejeder840 not if he wants a successor
@Hanan M overpopulation plays no role when u want ur own bloodline to get passed on
This is actually so refreshing to watch and I love how specialists within their respective fields and people in different cultures, who experience purity culture, shared their own views and experiences
A decent comment, thank goodness Lord.
This works in reverse as well. My son married his first and the number of men that were absolutely insistent that he needed to "shop around" was unnerving.
That's sweet, I envy ppl who find that special one early on. Pressuring men to have sex n women not to though us bizarre and offensive and controlling. It's personal choice😊
some women encourage men too. my boyfriend's grandma told him to keep looking around because men are supposed to be "naturally" polygamous :(
I mean, is there a purity ball for the boys? Thought so. Lol, what a joke
Are you really care about that?
Of course not, men have other things, like losing half their stuff when a woman leaves.
Probably no ball at all because no girl are attending.
Man have financial ball.
Boys are not virgins!
TBH the father Daughter thing was creepy. How brainwashed are they?
It's common sense, you're brainwashed by feminism.
Has what you’ve done worked out for you?
@Dr S yeah it took me 30 seconds to find out that your argument is based on misleading information lol.
@Dr S the only thing that I learn is that there are many other ways a woman can get microchimerism other than sex. Blood transfusion, having an older brother, spontaneous abortion upon others. Therefore is not exclusive to sexual intercourse. The second study you mentioned concludes that young girls can have microchimerism as a result of multiple factors that doesn’t involve sex. They were found on 13.6% of the total subjects. There’s also not a clear idea of what the origin may be. In conclusion: the presence of male cells in women is not exclusively a result of intercourse. You state this like it’s something bad, but studies like “opposite effects of microchimerism on breast and colon cancer” found that women with microchimerism were less likely to develop those types of cancer in their life. So again: your argument is based on misleading information with sexist overtones.
Very.
I have no issue with anyone wanting to save their self for marriage by their own choice...but this statement bothered me ..."The true value of a young woman is her virginity" ....No, the true value of a young woman is the young woman herself. Her mind, her heart and her soul. By making such a big thing about their daughters virginity, are they really only seeing them as sexual objects then in the end anyway?....
@H.A.S.3 what are you even saying
As soon as a saw the title, I knew y’all would be somewhere in the South. I grew up in Mississippi and now live in Alabama. Thankfully never had to do this with my dad, but it’s VERY common here to do this.
This is crazy Lizzy! What is wrong with people
I thought it would be the Middle East
My big Sis lives in Alabama with her family. They have gone total creepy Christian right. thankfully they got out of the cult they were in but unfortunately decided to join another one. They dont believe in science or vaccinations, basically anything their current Pastor doesnt tell them is in the bible. I dont know how to speak to her anymore without offending her. Oh and both my nieces got pregnant as teenagers and were married like a month later. Its hilariously common up there in the land of female virgins. I guess my brother in law likes the whole unquestioned authority thing. Personally i'd rather have a partner and live in reality but i guess thats just me. Oh and I grew up and currently live in North Florida by the way so i am technically "Florida Man". We arent all nuts.
I live in California and as soon as I heard that country twang I said "shit they're in the south...."
@@TomNook. yeah, great to see you’ve realized your orientalist mindset🤙🏾 the subjugation and control of women and our bodies is a worldwide phenomenon, not something that just happens in the ‘Middle East’.
Why are so-called pious, religious men so fragile in their egos, and in the hypocrisy? It's baffling that any human, any person in a relationship would not actively seek to celebrate their partner's life and wellbeing, and not hold them to emotional and physical ransom, just because they lack the emotional and spiritual development to overcome their own sexual repression/oppression.
The older I get the more I am a feminist. Purity is for men too. Why does society always become hyper conscious in regards to women bodies.
Well said
Sounds like the women in your life wear the pants in the family. Congrats bro you fell into the end times agenda.
@@b.o.cfamily1278 What women? 😅💩💩 What life? 🤮
@@b.o.cfamily1278 were living in a simulation who cares who has pants on. Your avatar probably doesn't even have legs or a penis.
I have to say:
I will be more proud of my daughter, if she will decide by her own, when she want to have sex and with whom, than beeing manipulated by a random drunk guy in a club. I mean thats the goal of parents. Show your children how to make decisions, instead of hiding them from the real world.
Sure- we want our kids to feel confident in their self worth and personal power, such that we buffer them against future manipulation attempts by others who might seek to control them, but…What about being manipulated by a person she should be able to trust, to promote her personal sovereignty, such as a parent?
Really true 👍👍👏👏
This world is so hyper-sexual that even newborns know all about sex these days. Human population keeps increasing as they multiply like insects without a higher purpose. I'd say just teach children not to bring children into this world full of pain, suffering and manipulation. But enjoy all the pleasures and go. If one wanna become parents, don't sleep around, but set the right example of being a "human" mother or father and not "animal" or "insect" mother and father that have lower consciousness.
As a father of a girl, this is so weird to me. I hope to teach her on making good choices but I don’t believe in owning her body.
Thank you for your humanity! 🙏🏽
@@kujjitafari8509 Stop glorifying something self-evident.
Purity ball…. When your dad just can’t let go
Oedipus complex IRL
Dad's fixating on their virgin daughters 🤮
Seems more like, when your doesn’t want to be just your dad
OR when your dad values and honors his daughter.
@@vaquera9368 he values her so much I think he might take it for himself lol but seriously as a father of 2 girls, I honestly, 1000% think he wants his daughter
This makes me so angry, the father should have nothing to do with his doughters virginity
They're just trying to protect their daughters from men who simply want to use them to satisfy their sexual desires.
That is not the daughters’ fault, that’s due to men only seeing women as sex objects.
@@lighteningsnips What if the girls want to use men for sexual desires. Then somebody should protect these men and teach them that they should stay virgins by your own logic.
@@xdaydreamerx You can apply the same logic to men and women.
It's ownership just another male bastion of control
In my personal experience growing up in the purity movement among the evangelical Christians, I had a much more balanced upbringing. Both men and women were taught equally(although separately) that virginity was important and sex was reserved for marriage. The burden was never on the women and in fact laid more on the men who were responsible to keep themselves and the ladies safe. They reasoned that it was honorable to God but also that there were some practical benefits too (i.e. preventing STDs and avoiding complicated sexual scenarios, and added relationship baggage). Respect for the opposite gender was certainly stressed and this effect seemed to raise genuine gentlemen among the people I grew up with. Now most of them are married and the biggest effect I see is less baggage in their lives than the average person.
That being said, I certainly agree with detractors that it's weird and potentially harmful to take this movement to extremist levels as it tends to create people who feel sexually repressed and act out creepily, but on the whole in my sphere that was a minority. I've yet to meet someone who has a story interesting enough for a doc like this, haha.
What you call baggage age, I call live experience. No one should have to marry and live with their first sexual partner. So much pressure on the relationship
@@karinland8533 I'm glad I've only had sex with my life partner. I find it nauseatingly disgusting to even think of having it with anyone else prior to marriage. My husband and I have an fantastic sex life
Thankyou for a more unbiased perspective than this documentary presents. Condemning those who want to remain pure may be the result of an overly stretched conscience- or even an envy. They showed no positive side of purity and little understanding of natural impulses and biology. I guess you can expect this from the "experts" that can't define the difference between "males" and "females". :)
Exactly! I agree with this. Your points are the same as my thoughts.
I'm curious where these people think menstrual blood is supposed to go if there's a "barrier"? I mean, it's absurd we have to be taught that it's not an actual layer of skin... When we're bleeding each month.
"Purity is the highest value in a young womans life." Hahahhahaa a womans value is so much more than virginity.
Not if you're a Muslim or a evangelical Christian
These men think the only worth that a woman has is what she can do for them. Like shes an object for sale. A new toy vs an old toy.
No, it isn't. Regardless of the attempted societal normalization of female hedonism, a woman is valued for what she is, and men are valued for what they can provide generally speaking. It is for this reason that women past the age of fertility age rapidly. Biology makes no mistakes. Once past the age of fertility, there is no need for a woman to attract a man from a biological standpoint - therefore hormones responsible for keeping a woman looking youthful or physically attractive dwindle over time, eventually down to nothing.
This is basic physiology that you'd learn in year 1 college if you bothered educating yourself. Woman here, by the way.
@@in_slowmotion you thought u actually did something 😂
@@in_slowmotion the pick me energy ur giving off is very evident.
I would love to see a sociological study on the later life of these girls. Like… daddy issues… gerneral impacts on sexuality… what happens on their self worth when they “lose” their virginity… Do they self hate themselves?
Or do they enjoy the “protection” of their fathers?
Hi sweet annika queen
"Self hate themselves?" Is't it kind of hard to self-hate somebody else?
@@ttintagel I am not a native speaker ✌🏻
In how many foreign languages are you proficient, ttintagel?
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 Only one in which I'd consider myself really fluent. But if I chose to enter into a conversation in that language, and I said something that didn't make any sense, I'd expect one of the more fluent speakers to catch it. And I'd be glad that I wouldn't keep making the same mistake.
I have three daughters. I could not see myself doing this. Sanity is more important than “purity”. And sanity is harder to come by these days it seems.
Yeah especially when sex doesn’t take away anybody’s purity
From a man’s perspective I get it. There is less risk with false paternity with a virgin. Woman who have the sex in the city free sex mindset are a risk. “aka App hook up woman,” You want to know your not marrying a woman who is Not a 304 or has problem with child bearing due to her sexual play days.
Woman want men with potential future and men want woman without a terrible past. And if your past is something embarrassing like sleeping around it makes him and his family look bad, and muslim countries family’s opinion is important. Don’t marry a 304 or woman with sexual hot girl summer past.
Im not judging these men who want virgin wives. Because thats their preference. Just as they won’t say nothing when woman want men with money and 6’1 hight, looks and potential.
But virginity obsessed fetish folks are weird, I would say vetting the person is better than just going off with the Hyman, as it can be faked as shown here.
Im sure you don’t want your daughters to be the sex city type girls. But I get what you mean purity virgin is a bit much. But you come from a different culture. In the west, there is not as much, pressure and family /clan involvement in marriage.
@@houseofhas9355 Mate... you are obsessed with counting a persons sexual partners.
@@houseofhas9355 it’s better to accept and have the conversion of your daughter having sex than to pretend it doesn’t exist and shield her. she’ll just be uneducated and bring home stds and pregnancies. teach her to be safe like you would teach your son. both men and women equally enjoy sex.
“If we all waited they’ll be no aids , no abortion” what is he smoking honestly ?
The most important part for me in a woman is being smart and preferring than me and not afraid to express what she thinks. In my opinion 90% of a happy relationship is done. Communication between two people
And another thing that not all women are born with a hymen. And you know gymnastics or different kinds of activities that can rust her and disappear just doesn't mean the girl is quote-unquote impure
What is purity anyways. We're all equal
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings.......
Yeah Its a terrible way to gauge sexual history. From a man’s perspective I get it. There is less risk with false paternity with a virgin. Woman who have the sex in the city free sex mindset are a risk. “aka App hook up woman,” You want to know your not marrying a woman who is Not a 304 or has problem with child bearing due to her sexual play days.
Woman want men with potential future and men want woman without a terrible past. And if your past is something embarrassing like sleeping around it makes him and his family look bad, and muslim countries family’s opinion is important. Don’t marry a 304 or woman with sexual hot girl summer past.
Im not judging these men who want virgin wives. Because thats their preference. Just as they won’t say nothing when woman want men with money and 6’1 hight, looks and potential.
But virginity obsessed fetish folks are weird, I would say vetting the person is better than just going off with the Hyman, as it can be faked as shown here.
@@philippemiller4740 Not engaging in sexual activity outside marriage.
We're all created equal, for this matter.
Horse riding and cycling. My 2 favourite hobbies . Never found my hyman . But strangely enough I ended up marrying the boy I lost my virginity to.
i'm so happy that you made this documentary! it's so crazy that the myth of virginity still exists and even many afab people don't know about their own bodies... it's really sad
also, i almost screamed when i saw those authors - i literally have their book on my desk right now. and i love it!
I wish I had a father like this, I wish I would have kept mine intact, not every female believes what you believe in. A lot of us regret not saving ourselves for marriage. If this is what she wants who are you to judge?
@@Daisyarepink - So you either didn’t watch this entire documentary, or you have a deficit in your ability to understand information. ‘Intact’?! The primary point of this entire piece is to point out that there is no such thing as an ‘intact’ hymen. You desperately need an entry-level anatomy and human biology lesson (for children, so you can comprehend it). Good luck with that education.
How is virginity a myth? It's a medical, scientific term, not a made-up thing. You may think yours is not important but let other cultures decide for themselves.
@@wlahbrok8455 did you watch the video
"afab" just say female.
I think the question why a woman's virginity is consdidered more important than a man's is can be easily answered from a historical perspective. This moral code is far older than paternity tests. So, if a woman got pregnant she and her family were stuck with the baby and the father could simply decline that he fathered the child and he was out of the picture. And even today it's usually the girls's family that raises the child when a teenager get's pregnant. So it's somehow understandable that parents care more about their daughters virginity than about their sons. That doesn't mean I'm okay with this double standards, it just means that I understand the parents motives to some degree.
Also, there needs to be more oversight on teenage boys recklessly impregnating teenage girls than there is. People seem to forget the fact that, that's someone else's daughter that their son could get pregnant.
I think this all stems from male jealousy and having to have the power to control women.
It stems from religion. Man made religion. Men.
Its from Bible. Bible requires brides to be v1rg1n, if not st0n3d to d3ath by all the men of the town. Deuteronomy 22:13-21. The verses basically say if a groom claimed the bride to be non v1rg1n on their 1st night then the bride should be put in front of her dads door to be st0n3d t d3ath by all the men of the town. The only way to save her is 'the cloth' that should be provided by her dad & mom. Whats is this cloth? A white cloth soaked red by her v1rgnal blood. Imagine the method to produce it 😣😥 And it should be done prior to the 1st night so the groom wont play them. We know if the dad unable to show the cloth then shes st0ned to d3ath. But if the dad could show it all red, then the groom should pay 100 shekels to her dad & remained married to her.
@@amazingsupergirl7125 they said about 1/4 the way through that virginity is prized by societies and cultures all over the world. Just as marriage existed in all societies before religion valuing virginity probably did too. It seems to be tied up more with biology and survival, in that a man who is going to take care of a woman and her children, procreate, provide for her and protect her wants assurance that any children are his. I am talking evolutionary biology here, not, modern western culture.
@@beautifulspirit7420 no XD it has nothing to do with biology. in fact virginity is a myth as biology doesn't really support it. some woman are born without a hymen, many break because of gymnastics or horseback riding. its religion as usual that tells lies and praises something against our common sense and human nature.. in fact if biology supports anything it is that we are MADE to procreate. as many times as possible. Virginity doesn't exist in nature. to the point there are animals that die if they don't get it on whilst they're in heat.
''In the US state of Alabama''
Oh boy......
Never knew Saudi Arabia have soo much trees....
Alabama is Arabistan. I hate Alabama.
Americans are actually pretty tame when it comes to virginity, compared to african, middle eastern and asian countries. LOL.
@@serpentphoenix yup in middle eastern countries some women have their vag's sewn up until they're married. Or they have their clitoris cut off. It's happening to "Asian" girls in the UK too. They outlawed doctors doing it but girls are being flown out of the country
😂
My dad gave me a purity ring at my 16th birthday against my will, ended up losing that thing within a month. The universe knew
Lose the purity ring or the virginity? :))
I lost my purity ring on my 16th birthday but still saved myself for marriage. SO thankful I did
I knew a woman who was upset that her young son learned an offensive term at school. She was more upset at the loss of innocence than anything else, wanting to protect him and keep him from outside (corrupting) influences for as long as possible. I think to some extent this is similar, sexuality plays into it, but it's not so much about being overly concerned with the specifics of the daughter's sexual life as it is about the loss of innocence, a father wanting to keep her his 'little girl' for as long as possible. And I realize there is some overlap, but I hope I'm making sense of what I'm trying to get across, that it's not 'just' about sexuality.
However, the idea that a girl loses her innocence once she has sex is a very harmful way of thinking, and it comes across as shaming women for being sexual. And also, your kid needs to know about the (corrupting) influences of the world in order to make good decisions later on in their life. Sheltering your kid from stuff like this is not always a good thing and can actually be very harmful in the long run. Also, it's very creepy and disgusting that the fathers who have their daughters be in purity balls will try to be surrogate boyfriends to them.
These fathers who have their daughters be in purity balls, they're not only being "overprotective". Like many fathers, they just don't want their daughters to ever have sex, deep in the recesses of their minds. Many fathers make jokes about it. You can google "So you want to date my daughter" and come up with endless memes from men who are trying to scare all young men away.
However, when you are a father and you have a daughter, you have to accept the fact that your daughter is going to have sex someday, and she needs acknowledge about these kind of things in order to make good decisions when faced with them. Sheltering them from these kind of things can end up actually causing them a lot of harm in the long run.
To me, it's very disturbing, creepy, and disgusting when a father obsesses over his daughter's sex life.
Yess ewww
I thought virginity is just the fact of not having had sex yet. Not the presence of certain tissue.
Also, I think if someone is a virgin themselves and want to marry someone who is also a virgin, I don't see the issue. It becomes hypocritical when you yourself are not and demand virginity from your partner. And it becomes a problem when one gender is shamed and sometimes even abused for it and the other isn't at all and can do as they please.
Two virgins together is like the blind leading the blind lmao
Exactly. Agree on all points. Virginity is simply not having had sexual intercourse. It has nothing to do with a girls hymen nor any other physiology...and the focus on that in this documentary is both misguided, and just plain WEIRD. Weird. Keeping yourself pure as a young man OR lady is all about honoring God and saving something priceless for their eventual spouse. Atheists just dont understand
And what about the sons?
Honestly teaching about protection and consent is so much more important.
It's so sick calling a woman "pure" if she hasn't had sex yet.
“Your dad’s a creep.” “*sigh*, yeah. I know.”
This is beautifully educative to women all over. Thank you.
Hi @Debbie Shuaib, Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, we appreciate it!
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thank you so much. i like your channel
No he’s not
Hi sweet debbie
I'm extremely uncomfortable with the idea that women's virtue is tide to what we don't do
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
Every persons is ???? Or do you consider mindlessly following up on every single impulse in your mind as "virtuous" ?
It’s disturbing that the condition of our vaginas is more important than the many other traits we have to offer in a marriage. Religion is stupid and oppressive. This is for you mr Islam copypasta dude above me. Worry about your own genitals
@@dibmalek6412 LMAO sorry I would rather jump of a cliff them live in an Islamic state. If you can't treat someone equally just because they're female there's something wrong with you. You literally hide your woman so only you can see them, like they are property...that is sickening
Like not spelling "tied" properly?
Thank you for all the women that has helped enlighten the world with facts like this
You lads know thats why we do Alabama jokes, right eh?
Well, that and a few other reasons.
@@bannedmann4469 i write this when i begin and it gets worst.
As soon as I heard that country twang I knew they were in the south
Sweet home alabama
Alabama. Bringing up the rear in any list of human, health and social development among American states. Sometimes Mississippi or Louisiana will slip in there as well
I mean historically virginity had the purpose to not get pregnant, when there is only one person to care about the baby. But today there are contraceptives, and even if you still get pregnant your parents live way longer, so grandpa/grandma can help better and even most states help a little for the mother to raise a child and survive.
There is no need for a concept of virginity anymore. There only should be way better education about the body (especially the hymen), about sex, about diseases and of course also the value of each person as a person and their freedom to choose which ever path they want to go.
I’m so happy I was born and raised In Puerto Rico, were women as free to do as they pleases.
@Dr S NOPE. Gtfoh, ignoramus 👍
@Dr S 😂😂Dude... please leave us alone! Yho
@Dr S women woudlnt be able to be promiscuos if men weren't promiscuous themselves. If sex is so harmful for women, then you men should stop harming women. You do this to women, so stop! Stay virgin youselves and women's problems dissapear.
Germany here. Girl, same!
@Dr S just say you hate women and go. no semen can change your DNA you are simply delusional. Also, condoms are a thing
This is weird...I don't see my father, may he rest in peace, meddling with my sexuality. And I was born in 1959 in a, mostly, Roman Catholic southern European country. My mother, may she rest in peace, wouldn't meddle that much either. And we are considered backward in general...yeah right...
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love how the weight of society's moral always falls under women, amazing 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I know, and it's funny because we have all the pressure and none of the power to make any changes.
@Chlo255 "None of the power"?? Yes we do.
Forbidding a fruit only makes it seem sweeter.
Being a father of two girls, I would not like my children to not take sexuality any more seriously than they take their studies, friendships, travel, work & life experiences.
While I wish for them should be very careful in such matters to avoid physical, emotional & practical troubles, if a they ever intend to marry a person who insists on them being a virgin (even if they are "Virgins") , I shall never approve of them marrying such a shallow minded individual who's ego can not bear for their spouse to have a life outside of their "owner".
So we are still in the middle ages ... disturbing
No, 2021 is not the period of the middle ages.
yes! it really, really feels that way, because some people actually still think that way. like, fuck that. as much as they have shaken my faith, the rest of the world chiming in and saying this is sick restores my faith in humanity
Living in the Bible Belt- yes. Way more than most realize. We direly need to teach rational skepticism and shake off Iron Age nonsense.
@@guthrie_the_wizard YES!!! absolutely.
@@guthrie_the_wizard the only non-sense thing here is this Documentary.
When they said Alabama, and she was dating her dad I thought I clicked on a Jerry Springer clip
i thought, Yeah - that's not creepy at all. /s
Two things that don't go together are morality and religion. "The church shall control their minds, the state, their bodies." ~ Constantine
that makes no sense
@Dr S Are you religious?
@Dr S True, but the same can be said absit religion. That's why I don't listen to the media or any religion. I was just wondering if you believe in god
Salute
Based Roman emperor.
I was raised in the American midwest when purity culture was at its peak, and later moved to the Middle East. It's amazing to compare notes with Muslim friends about this topic... we're really not so different.
Hi 👋. Gave you a thumbs up👍. I'm researching interreligious dialogue. Would be good to connect with you. Are you still in the American Midwest or Middle East? Gmail/email? Let's connect via email.
would have been epic is this were the ball that Borat showed up to in his latest film
Borat Moviefilm Number 3: The Daughters Exchanging!!!
LMAO
So what do they do with sons? Do they celebrate the purity too or split the hourly rate?
Second one.
They make sure they can earn for the family.
Now that is funny lol. Good for you
@Van lyfe chick no no no I'm not staring up the hate. Young girls around the world are mutilated. So many broken life's. And for what? Of course there is a double standard for Men.
@@narinelimanoff4715 So you're just stirring up hate because you can't conceive of the idea that men have problems too.
Simple logic dictates that, if women are expected to be virgins, then it's expected that men aren't sleeping with them. Otherwise they wouldn't lose their virginities.
But you don't want to think about that, because you want to blame men.
I love how the choice of people and locations go against what one might expect.
Instead of starting with a more expected depiction of a Muslim country, it starts with "the most democratic and liberal" of them all.
It's neither the most democratic nor the most liberal.
@@r.brooks5287 Hence the quotation marks ;)
@@maksimnikiforovski2034 Me bad, sorry.
Yes we are a Conservative Eastern society in Tunisia and only people of the capital do that because they are Frenchi Coucou (Frenchized) but BOTH MAN AND FEMALES ARE PIOUS AND PURE TILL GETTING MARRIAGE !
Appreciate the women just after the 18min mark. The mothers there getting informed not just for themselves but for their daughters. Love their humor
Mississippi and Alabama also legally require abstinence only sex education. No discussions on safe sex, STDs, unwanted pregnancy, etc. JUST abstinence.
Pure garbage, abstinence only sex "ed" should be illegal
Imagine thinking you know best how to raise someone else's child.
@@DegreesOfThree you do though.
@@DegreesOfThree Unfortunately, many parents really don't know what's best for their children. If you are ignorant or stupid becoming a parent doesn't change any of that.
@@carmensavu5122 You're assuming there's a BEST way to raise a child, as if there's some kind of scientific formula for creating a perfect human. It's like saying there is a best genre of music or best style of painting. The parents are the ones that have the biggest investment of time and energy in the child. The parents brought the child into existence. The parents know the child better than any neighbor or bureaucrat. As long as they aren't abusing or neglecting the child, it's no one's business what they do or do not teach their children about reproduction, and when they teach it.
Male virginity should be taken seriously as well. Just to even things up. Otherwise it's just a crock of bull.
Men can't get pregnant.
@@withgoddess8029 and what has virginity got to do with pregnancy?????? Are you trolling fr???
@@withgoddess8029 but they are the ones getting women pregnant. If men remain virgin, no more pregnancy outside marriage. Problem solved!!!
@@withgoddess8029 Women cant get pregnant without men. And men are often trying to get the women in bed.
@@withgoddess8029 a man can get 365+ women pregnant a year, a woman can have one pregnancy.
Those men that are so concerned with virginity & stuff should just be glad someone is willing to marry them or give them any in the first place
To have such a ball, with so many people and girls that age, just screams red flags to me. Love life is a personal thing and my stomach and heart hurts for those girls.
Concept of purity is always attached with discrimination
Yeah, filth does not attract
Apparently, as long as their daughters love their lifestyle! If it makes them feel special, so be it!
Yes, just like divorce laws.
Virginity is epitome of honest and trust and goodness Islam preaches it and virtue and morality not immorality, Islam prohibits intimacy before marriage or outside marriage . Look what this progress brought (increased to the world ilegitimate children and children , thrown outside or in orphanage and STDs , Muslim countries have the lowest STDs rate thanks to Allah devine rule, for example Somalia . So stop this lies .
Virginity is obligated to men and women in Islam so think stop feelings
Concept of consequences for your actions is always attached with "discrimination".
The reason why all cultures value virginity historically is because it was the best way to ensure paternity. This was just the logical solution for men to protect themselves and to ensure that their child was theirs.
This fundamental fact is also why women don't have as much interest in valuing virgin men because they don't need to worry about maternity uncertainty in the way that men do. It's also why it's a double standard because the biological realities vary between the sexes.
Now with modern technology all these old practices are unnecessary. Paternity tests are widely available and much more reliable than something like a hymen test
Great logical info. Thanks
It's not just about paternity. It's about trust, obedience, and preventing adultery and the unnecessary spread of disease.
So sex years ago might somehow cause paternity with that ex-boyfriend now? Nope.
@Dr S interesting. I will look into it.
@Dr S r/badwomensanatomy
Are we just gonna ignore the fact even though half of women dont bleed when they loose their virginity, in some parts of the world they can be killed over it if they dont.
This is WRONG.
We woman can make our own choices.
Our virginity is NOT our dad's business!!!! At all!