Brilliant point about the environment affecting the cooking on aluminum especially! I tell my Scouts this all the time but I never explained it quite as succinctly as you did. Thanks!
Excellent tutorial on cookware, including a brilliantly clear explanation of the basics of thermodynamics, and metallurgy. Several frustrating problems solved by your very clear explanation of the conductive characteristics of various metals. Many thanks Mr. Thomas. Cheers.
Speaking of Heavy Metal, after your video on the Work Tough Kukri I visited the site and checked out their products and videos. There were non for sale so I did the Notify Me Thing and on Tuesday evening I got notified and two minutes later I had it ordered. Then I realized that I was so quick i did not get the acid washed version so I sent an email. Minutes later they said...not a problem. It got to US Customs early this morning and hope it does not get hung up. Last time I ordered a couple of knives from Finland they sat in Customs for six weeks! You got me hooked on Kukri on one of your earlier videos and although I checked out a few, none of them tripped my switch but the Work Tough did.
Excellent video. On most of my backpacking trips, I use a Tangia cook set. The pan is Teflon coated and I prefer to use denatured alcohol. We start with hot tea or coffee from the kettle, and then take time formeal prep as it is part time f he outdoor. If hot coals are available I I’ll use them. Great series.
Blackie, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for teaching us about how to safely test pan heat and coal/ low flame temperature while cooking. ( side note: if your cold smoking meat or fish, count to 8/ 9 thousand, which is roughly about 200%. Hot smoking meats or fish should be about 6/ 7 thousand, roughly 250 ish to 350%. Dakota fire holes work best for that type of bushcraft smoke curing.). On the topic of cookware, I'd use cast iron and steer clear of aluminum due to aluminum being statistically shown to cause medical problems over the course of long term usage. I'd also caution people to research any form of commercially available heavy bottomed pans, skillets and pots. Most of those are not ment for cooking on coals and will delaminate because of the high temperature of campfire use. If any one does go for heavy bottom cookware, make sure it's one peice construction and not laminated with stuff like copper plated inserts.
Thank you @BlackieThomas for this informative video, I'm sure my boys and daughter gonna appreciate it since they are the ones that gotta eat daddy's cooking... I learned something new today, much obliged Mr Blackie... 💯🤠🔥🔥🔥
@@BLACKIETHOMAS ... Sir, your knowledge is very well seasoned and don't mind gaining from the best, to pass on to my 6 and 8yrs and my daughter, as they will reap the benefits of what you (... wish we not here in the city of LAs concrete jungle, lol...) have created for EVERYONE can learn a bit of fishing, so when the going GETS TOUGH, we all have something else in our toolbox that can come in handy. ... Steve Gomez and my boys and mí niña Allison, Steve Jr, and Israel (... Aka Boo-boo, Izzy, and commonly as Pápas! Or lil daddy in Mexican-American culture thing, lol) THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GODSPEED... 💯🤠🇺🇲🇲🇽
Hello everybody, I found a deck of playing cards for my haver sack that are TRAIL BLAZER S.H.T.F. survival cards. Seem to be nice for getting the young ones attention to learning woodsman skills. Thanks for the video.
Great video Blackie 👍. One thing I have that is excellent is a small 6 in cast iron pan, it's only about a half an inch in depth. What I like about it is I can take my thin stainless steel cookery, and place it on top of that for a slower cooking. Then when that part of the meal is finished I will wrap it in a towel or blanket and it will stay very warm for up to 2 hours. Then with a little foil I can do some biscuits in the pan. One trick that I have been doing for a couple years with rice works perfectly. Whatever type of cookware you're using and whatever size, just cover the rice with a half an inch of water. Bring it to a boil turn it off covered and let it sit for 5 minutes. Then bring it back to a boil and wrap it up in some towels or blankets. If it's an inch and a half thick that's perfect. No matter what type of rice you're using within 2 hours you will have perfect rice, and use very little fuel. Give it a try it works great. Blessings 🙏🐺
Just wanted to say "thank you" for your advice in a previous video. I bought an M65 jacket based on your recommendation. Its old fashioned, unpopular, and cheap. Its the absolute best gear to own. Its a heavy duty jacket in winter and in summer you can pull out the thermal liner. I camped with it once, then bought another because they are still about $60 in the UK. It is a wonderful jacket solution. The M65 is basically a winter jacket, a summer coat, or an inner liner to wear in your sleeping bag. I am sure there is high tech gear out there that is lighter, better and costs thousands of dollars, but ONE camping trip with an M65 convinced me why you are so convinced.
Titanium cools pretty fast also. Great info on the cooking sets... The thicker steal skillet even though it will be heavier will probably work the best for most.
Blackie, maybe you should suggest to Dave Canterbury that he produce the Scouts cook set in stainless steel. Two other improvements would be a pin or something to help lock the handle to the skillet. The wingnuts can come loose in the heat. Finally, the little pot needs to be redesigned. It is too wide and not deep enough and so it tips over too easily. Those improvements would result in a nice one or two person cook set. Thanks for the informative video.
Blackie I could listen to your tips and tricks all day long and never get tired of the information you pass along. Thank you for always explaining things in such a clear manner anyone can understand. I hope you enjoy your 4th of July weekend.
Blackie, you are so good at teaching and explaining these things. Now I know why that Pathfinder skillet is my absolute favorite cooking pan when I’m camping! Always great information!
Practice with a marshmallow. Learned this trick as a kid. You can raise and lower it for the heat. If it starts to burn, don’t wave it around. Tasty treat when it cools.
Blackie , Great Video on different cooking metal pans , I do remember the days of B and B Burned and Bloody food when camping. Thanks for sharing Tips and Tricks on cooking. Also Thank You For Sharing Your Time, Knowledge, and Wisdom and Passing On The Craft. Yes You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter. You and Mrs. Blackie Have a Great 4th Of July. Tim L. Still working on a lead on the Tree Brand Boker Barlow German made . Can it be a new one or one from the 1970s .
I have all 4 types of Cook ware including the pathfinder fry pan. Now I have to learn how to cook on all of them. You sure give out a lot of homework don’t ya!! Lol thanks for the explanation sir!
you know Blackie for actual cooking i've quit using aluminum and have went strictly to stainless steel! stainless just holds up better! i'd go through 4 aluminum sets in the life of this one stainless set! i've still got an aluminum 2 piece set i use for heating water on an alcohol stove for freeze dried stuff and hot drinks in my roaming around goofing off in the woods or going fishing bag but that's all it's used for!
The important message in this video is not the different metals but the proper method of cooking with each, Cause in the long run your going to cook with what you have with you.. need to be able to adapt..
My happy medium is the aluminium trangia set but replacing the plate/skillet with a steel one with a heavy non stick coating and a wooden bowl to eat out of
That aluminum plate you referred to was the Thaw Master. It had an upgraded model that was twice as thick (¼"). Aside from the finish, the legs, and the drip edge milled into it, any plate if aluminum stood off the deck so that air can pass under it will do the same thing. As always, another good video to educate the masses and those who aren't as familiar and experienced.
I read a review on a famous bushpot and the kid was complaining because he burnt his chili, he started a fire and let it get good and hot and pout his pot on and burn his chili up and it was stuck to the side of his pot gave the pot a bad review...lol, all he had to do is sit the pot off the side of the fire about 6" or so out of the open flame and let it warm slowly
This is an absolute light bulb moment for me. I do prefer aluminium but I had to devote all my time to cooking with it to prevent burning. Now at least I can wait for coals to form and do some other camp prep before cooking
Thanks blackie, very informative, quick question, aluminium coated with a Trangie would that be better, compared to plain aluminium set which l have. Thankyou for your time.
Thankyou for the time to reply, l have the Trangie 27/2, 25/2, complete sets, are they worth buying the aluminium coated upgrade, what is your thought.
Stainless steel by itself is also a poor conductor of heat, therefore slows the cooking process. Commercially sold pots and pans will either have aluminum or copper sandwiched in the bottom of the pan to speed heat transfer. Where did you acquire the grate Blackie?
I found this really helpful how you described the thermal convection of these materials and how to best utilize them. I tend to use Titanium because of the weight, and love that it cools rapidly so that it's ready to pack back up. But I hadn't really given much thought to the reasoning as to why I would use different metals for different applications. I intuitively know to bring my cast iron for burgers and steak 8-) But hadn't thought of it in terms of thermal convection... only that it cooked better.
Blackie, everywhere online says eating and drinking out of aluminum is bad for people. But you use it. So it must be untrue about it being unhealthy right?
I thought the mess kit was just a container to use in the chow line when we got a hot meal instead of a MRE or something. That’s what we did in the Army . Never was a Boy Scout.
@@terrancecoard388 “Down and dirty” did not come into popular use until the mid to late 1980s. D&D was created in 1972 and published as DND in 1977 1st ver republication of the basic set.
Good informational video Blackie , thanks for sharing , God bless !
glad to help
Great lesson on the science of using outdoor cookware. Now I not only know how to burn food when I camp cook, but also why I do it. 👍
lol thanks for watching
Keep campfire meals coming can meats are my favorites 👍🏼🪓
i will get back around to simple cooking once it cool off a bit
Brilliant point about the environment affecting the cooking on aluminum especially! I tell my Scouts this all the time but I never explained it quite as succinctly as you did. Thanks!
glad to be of help
Great information Blackie, very helpful. Thanks! 👍🍳
thanks for watching
Hi Blackie! If ever there was a "101 lesson" on a fundamental of camping this is it. Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
One of the things I really like about Blackie is how he takes the "art" of camping and turns it into a rustic version of science.
thank you
Great info , Thanks for sharing . This will help alot of people . Thanks brother , shared
glad to help
hi Blackie another great info filled video you are a great thanks
thank you very much
Excellent tutorial on cookware, including a brilliantly clear explanation of the basics of thermodynamics, and metallurgy. Several frustrating problems solved by your very clear explanation of the conductive characteristics of various metals. Many thanks Mr. Thomas. Cheers.
Oh WoW!!!
Thank you for teaching me this!
Speaking of Heavy Metal, after your video on the Work Tough Kukri I visited the site and checked out their products and videos. There were non for sale so I did the Notify Me Thing and on Tuesday evening I got notified and two minutes later I had it ordered. Then I realized that I was so quick i did not get the acid washed version so I sent an email. Minutes later they said...not a problem. It got to US Customs early this morning and hope it does not get hung up. Last time I ordered a couple of knives from Finland they sat in Customs for six weeks! You got me hooked on Kukri on one of your earlier videos and although I checked out a few, none of them tripped my switch but the Work Tough did.
glad you got it
Excellent video. On most of my backpacking trips, I use a Tangia cook set. The pan is Teflon coated and I prefer to use denatured alcohol. We start with hot tea or coffee from the kettle, and then take time formeal prep as it is part time f he outdoor. If hot coals are available I I’ll use them. Great series.
Never heard the different cooking systems explained in a more understandable manner. You have a gift my friend! Thanks!
thanks brother
Blackie, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for teaching us about how to safely test pan heat and coal/ low flame temperature while cooking. ( side note: if your cold smoking meat or fish, count to 8/ 9 thousand, which is roughly about 200%. Hot smoking meats or fish should be about 6/ 7 thousand, roughly 250 ish to 350%. Dakota fire holes work best for that type of bushcraft smoke curing.).
On the topic of cookware, I'd use cast iron and steer clear of aluminum due to aluminum being statistically shown to cause medical problems over the course of long term usage. I'd also caution people to research any form of commercially available heavy bottomed pans, skillets and pots. Most of those are not ment for cooking on coals and will delaminate because of the high temperature of campfire use. If any one does go for heavy bottom cookware, make sure it's one peice construction and not laminated with stuff like copper plated inserts.
Love the way you explain it! Camp cooking for dummies like me
Thanks for watching!
As a kid I burned lots of pancakes in that AL BSA cook kit skillet. LOL As usual, great info, Thx Blackie.
i did to i always had the fire way too hot and stuck everything
Thank you @BlackieThomas for this informative video, I'm sure my boys and daughter gonna appreciate it since they are the ones that gotta eat daddy's cooking... I learned something new today, much obliged Mr Blackie... 💯🤠🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate that
@@BLACKIETHOMAS ... Sir, your knowledge is very well seasoned and don't mind gaining from the best, to pass on to my 6 and 8yrs and my daughter, as they will reap the benefits of what you (... wish we not here in the city of LAs concrete jungle, lol...) have created for EVERYONE can learn a bit of fishing, so when the going GETS TOUGH, we all have something else in our toolbox that can come in handy.
... Steve Gomez and my boys and mí niña Allison, Steve Jr, and Israel (... Aka Boo-boo, Izzy, and commonly as Pápas! Or lil daddy in Mexican-American culture thing, lol) THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GODSPEED... 💯🤠🇺🇲🇲🇽
Good lesson Blackie. Agreed, aluminum is "touchy" when it comes to heat. Ask any Boy Scout.
thanks for watching
Hello everybody, I found a deck of playing cards for my haver sack that are TRAIL BLAZER S.H.T.F. survival cards. Seem to be nice for getting the young ones attention to learning woodsman skills. Thanks for the video.
you should make some DND cards with tips written on the outside of the cards
hey thats a cool idea thanks
Great video Blackie 👍. One thing I have that is excellent is a small 6 in cast iron pan, it's only about a half an inch in depth. What I like about it is I can take my thin stainless steel cookery, and place it on top of that for a slower cooking. Then when that part of the meal is finished I will wrap it in a towel or blanket and it will stay very warm for up to 2 hours. Then with a little foil I can do some biscuits in the pan.
One trick that I have been doing for a couple years with rice works perfectly. Whatever type of cookware you're using and whatever size, just cover the rice with a half an inch of water. Bring it to a boil turn it off covered and let it sit for 5 minutes. Then bring it back to a boil and wrap it up in some towels or blankets. If it's an inch and a half thick that's perfect. No matter what type of rice you're using within 2 hours you will have perfect rice, and use very little fuel. Give it a try it works great.
Blessings 🙏🐺
great idea
Always feels like I am listen to on of my uncles sharing wisdom round camp fire.
Know your gear and work with in its limits.
Right on
Great one Blackie, thanks
Thanks for listening
Just wanted to say "thank you" for your advice in a previous video.
I bought an M65 jacket based on your recommendation. Its old fashioned, unpopular, and cheap. Its the absolute best gear to own.
Its a heavy duty jacket in winter and in summer you can pull out the thermal liner. I camped with it once, then bought another because they are still about $60 in the UK.
It is a wonderful jacket solution. The M65 is basically a winter jacket, a summer coat, or an inner liner to wear in your sleeping bag.
I am sure there is high tech gear out there that is lighter, better and costs thousands of dollars, but ONE camping trip with an M65 convinced me why you are so convinced.
Good video. Good advice. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Titanium cools pretty fast also. Great info on the cooking sets... The thicker steal skillet even though it will be heavier will probably work the best for most.
Blackie, maybe you should suggest to Dave Canterbury that he produce the Scouts cook set in stainless steel. Two other improvements would be a pin or something to help lock the handle to the skillet. The wingnuts can come loose in the heat. Finally, the little pot needs to be redesigned. It is too wide and not deep enough and so it tips over too easily. Those improvements would result in a nice one or two person cook set. Thanks for the informative video.
This was an excellent class !
glad to help
I love boy scout cajun fire fried spam, mm mm good, well I did when we were kids anyway, lol. Thx for the vid Blackie
Blackie I could listen to your tips and tricks all day long and never get tired of the information you pass along. Thank you for always explaining things in such a clear manner anyone can understand. I hope you enjoy your 4th of July weekend.
Great explanation, as usual. 👍
my pleasure
Blackie, you are so good at teaching and explaining these things. Now I know why that Pathfinder skillet is my absolute favorite cooking pan when I’m camping! Always great information!
glad you enjoyed it
Great video
my pleasure
Good stuff
Appreciate it
have a good 4th of July weekend everyone
Practice with a marshmallow. Learned this trick as a kid. You can raise and lower it for the heat. If it starts to burn, don’t wave it around. Tasty treat when it cools.
Blackie , Great Video on different cooking metal pans , I do remember the days of B and B Burned and Bloody food when camping. Thanks for sharing Tips and Tricks on cooking. Also Thank You For Sharing Your Time, Knowledge, and Wisdom and Passing On The Craft. Yes You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter. You and Mrs. Blackie Have a Great 4th Of July. Tim L. Still working on a lead on the Tree Brand Boker Barlow German made . Can it be a new one or one from the 1970s .
my pleasure
I cook on coals and boil on flame....good show...!!
Right on
I have all 4 types of
Cook ware including the pathfinder fry pan. Now I have to learn how to cook on all of them. You sure give out a lot of homework don’t ya!! Lol thanks for the explanation sir!
You can do it!
you know Blackie for actual cooking i've quit using aluminum and have went strictly to stainless steel! stainless just holds up better! i'd go through 4 aluminum sets in the life of this one stainless set! i've still got an aluminum 2 piece set i use for heating water on an alcohol stove for freeze dried stuff and hot drinks in my roaming around goofing off in the woods or going fishing bag but that's all it's used for!
stainless will last longer for a fact
I used to have a Coldhandle skillet. Stamped carbon steel with a lighter steel over wrap. Miss that skillet.
The important message in this video is not the different metals but the proper method of cooking with each, Cause in the long run your going to cook with what you have with you.. need to be able to adapt..
exactly know what the weakness of what ever your using is and then play to the strengths
You need a cozy that you can carry the aluminum kit in so if you use the kit as a Dutch oven you can keep it hot. Something like a bun warmer.
good idea
My happy medium is the aluminium trangia set but replacing the plate/skillet with a steel one with a heavy non stick coating and a wooden bowl to eat out of
Good stuff. That why many steak houses serve your steak on a hot plate.
You got that right!
That aluminum plate you referred to was the Thaw Master. It had an upgraded model that was twice as thick (¼"). Aside from the finish, the legs, and the drip edge milled into it, any plate if aluminum stood off the deck so that air can pass under it will do the same thing.
As always, another good video to educate the masses and those who aren't as familiar and experienced.
your right i could not think of the name thanks
On the up side, it takes a smaller/ lower flame to cook with aluminum.
very true and its a big plus in the summer heat i can cook on small twigs
Love your videos. But I’m not gonna lie I clicked on this one to see you talk about dungeons and dragons and Metallica lol.
I read a review on a famous bushpot and the kid was complaining because he burnt his chili, he started a fire and let it get good and hot and pout his pot on and burn his chili up and it was stuck to the side of his pot gave the pot a bad review...lol, all he had to do is sit the pot off the side of the fire about 6" or so out of the open flame and let it warm slowly
This is an absolute light bulb moment for me. I do prefer aluminium but I had to devote all my time to cooking with it to prevent burning. Now at least I can wait for coals to form and do some other camp prep before cooking
exactly it cooks well on coals
I enjoyed this video with the pros and cons of various metals for cooking, I would have liked to have heard your thoughts on titanium…..
to me titanium is stronger than aluminum but it cooks like aluminum
Brilliant tutorial brother. I do have a question. Are titanium cook sets any more efficient than aluminum cookware..?
Not really they are stronger / tougher / less dents but they cook like the aluminum ones
@@BLACKIETHOMAS thank you sir.. I thought that was probably the case but I did want to ask.
Ahem, Spam can be Eaton from the can, it is precooked. I fry it to get a little burnt crust on it.
Thanks blackie, very informative, quick question, aluminium coated with a Trangie would that be better, compared to plain aluminium set which l have. Thankyou for your time.
Yes it will and a trangia with a simmer ring can be very good for cooking
Thankyou for the time to reply, l have the Trangie 27/2, 25/2, complete sets, are they worth buying the aluminium coated upgrade, what is your thought.
Stainless steel by itself is also a poor conductor of heat, therefore slows the cooking process. Commercially sold pots and pans will either have aluminum or copper sandwiched in the bottom of the pan to speed heat transfer.
Where did you acquire the grate Blackie?
Went back in sound is good. ?
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I found this really helpful how you described the thermal convection of these materials and how to best utilize them. I tend to use Titanium because of the weight, and love that it cools rapidly so that it's ready to pack back up. But I hadn't really given much thought to the reasoning as to why I would use different metals for different applications. I intuitively know to bring my cast iron for burgers and steak 8-) But hadn't thought of it in terms of thermal convection... only that it cooked better.
aluminum is good for cooling down quick if you're trying to cover ground and don't want to carry a hot pan if you're on the move
Glad it was helpful!
How do you feel about titanium? Would it be closely related to aluminum?
yes it is for weight and use its the same titanium is stronger but from a practical point of view you can swap one for the other
How does Titanium cookware compare to these? Somewhere between aluminum and steel?
to me its stronger and more durable than the aluminum but it cooks like the aluminum
Blackie, everywhere online says eating and drinking out of aluminum is bad for people. But you use it. So it must be untrue about it being unhealthy right?
Using Spam as the example meat to be cooked wasn't a good example as Spam is already cooked, as is canned corn beef, but the message still got across.
lol you are correct and thanks for keeping me honest
I thought the mess kit was just a container to use in the chow line when we got a hot meal instead of a MRE or something. That’s what we did in the Army . Never was a Boy Scout.
it is a mess set first but with a little skill it can be a cook set
Spam is edible right out of the can.
Okay, your title is clickbait for our nerdy side. DND really? Plus Heavy Metal? It's a thing. Dungeons and Dragons vs Down and Dirty... LOL
That is no where as bad as hijacking Bureau of Land Management and Down and Dirty preceded D&D.
@@terrancecoard388 “Down and dirty” did not come into popular use until the mid to late 1980s. D&D was created in 1972 and published as DND in 1977 1st ver republication of the basic set.
yep DND = down n dirty woodscraft friday .....heavy metal = how much weight you carrying to cook
No sound
sometimes when people try and watch videos youtube will drop out on the sound it happens to me as well on other peoples videos