Are mullets better? (mixed wheel sizes)
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I converted my XC bike to Mullet setup. You can immediately feel the difference the agility for quick left and right turn. You can still roll over bigger bumps and turns easily as well and hell yeah it can still climb good
Oh wow! I didn't know XC bikes could benefit from a mullet conversion. That's rad to hear
Did the same thing bud, slackened it, and then added an extra 20mm on the fork up front. Way funner on the downhill sections.
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Wow, didn't realize he could shed park laps like this. Well done man!
Mullets have many benefits
1.When u have smaller wheels on back
U wont get the feeling of going over the bars or steep decents
2 smaller wheel on the back makes climbing so much more easier
3 it is much easier to manual
Is it on average easier to manual than a full 27.5? The manual ease and overall agility is main main hesitation with converting to 29
climbing is better on a 29er
Why is mullet easier for climbing? I'm a shorter rider and thinking of converting to mullet but I live around a lot mountains so I was concerned it's going to make climbing harder. Can you elaborate?
yup mullets are better! there was a podcast on vital MTB where john hall (aaron gwin's mechanic) explains this very good and that in 2023 season 98% of the racers will be on a mullet bec its faster on everything except for the rock section but the high pivot suspension got that covered.
Dang gwins mechanic! See I knew I'm onto something, now I just need Gwin to train me
for dh it might be true but not xc or enduro racing
@@jamble7k enduro i can see not switching bec of pedaling after a stage. XC ehh i dont care about much on that kinda stuff.
@@jamble7k i think youll find it was super common in enduro racing before DH...
lots of riders ran mullets with offset bushings etc.
XC is about all out speed and wheel rotation(roll over) - many also think the pros run high psi for less rolling resistance,,, thats a huuuuge myth.
Haha now you have miss matching wheels :)
Hi! I am a foreigner and I like to watch your content! All these experiments with bicycles expand the horizons of thought. After viewing, you look at all the components, assemblies in a different way. You create unique content! Unique and informative, I learned a lot after six months of subscribing to you. To hell with the marketers who sell us their "incredible" ideas, here it is Evan - all people's content.
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На что стоит тратиться?
This week, i watched all of your videos again from the very first to the perfect wheels one. You said in the high low series overview: “thank you all for watching my first season of high low.”
Are you planning to do another season of high low? (after your channel grows a little and the budget of this channel is big enough for your family and the “Chad upgrades”) I think you should cuz those are the most popular videos on your channel.
Sorry for the bad English again, i’m trying my best😂
Yeah I'd like to! I was hoping to find another person so I don't have to act out two characters again but no luck yet
@@EvansMTBSaga amazing!!, another person would be cool. Funny story, the first videos i watched from your channel were the high low videos (that was when they came out) and, at first, i was unsure whether “Chad” was your role character or your twin😂
@@mtbguy10 same
@@EvansMTBSaga the two characters by 1 person is what made it good, It also ment it was the same person riding the bikes....
Something to consider is: you play the two characters but have 1 "mystery" person ride both bikes and maybe build a channel character from it(using THE STIG as example)
My Canyon CF-8 is like a 911 on tight downhill switchbacks while the full 29's are like a Semi with a Trailer🤣
I've converted both my Focus Jam2 EMTB and my Devinci Troy Carbon to Mullet. Both bikes were 27.5 frames to start with. The Focus came with Plus tyres so the fork was already 29". 27.5 / 2.8 on the rear and 29/ 2.5 up front. The geo came out almost identical to the Focus Jam2 Drifter (Mullet specific bike) 😀. The Troy has adjustable geo, so I set it in the 'Low' position and put a 29" fork and wheel on there. Both bikes ride fantastic ,and I can't imagine I would ever go back to 27.5 at both ends - Love the video, it's adds a bit of science to the subject😀
Great video. One thing as you pointed, with a mullet the seat angle becomes slacker and slightly affects climbing ability. Exception being bikes with adjustable dropouts to compensate for that.
I'm in the process of making my Walgoose Ledge X1 a mullet. 29 up front and a better 27.5 in back. Still trying to get the $$ together.
I remember back in the late 80's there were several trial bikes that came stock as 'mullets'. 😉 I believe Ibis had a 24/20 combo
Wow, I am trial rider since the millenium, but never seen those. Nice. I would try those just for fun. Would probably hate cantis tough.
@Márton K To my recollection trials bikes ran 999 u-brakes ( at least in the rear). Back in those days trials bicycles were still considered to be a BMX bikes...😁
With your BMX background mullets (or maybe even 27.5s) would be great for you and your riding style. It looks like your wheel builder is gonna need to make you another rear!
Specialized Status is the bike for Spring 2023 - and rumor has it, you can convert to 29er
I feel like it is personal preference and riding style. My style is more of monster truck and just straight line speed so 29er is a bit better, with your background in BMX you would definitely enjoy the the snappier feel. Also try it again with more consistent watts, that is a big difference in power.
Oh yeah the overall time kinda went out the window with me blowing it on the climbs so I just looked at the downhill segment and overall feel
Yea I totally agree I am also a full 29 rider cuz it suits my style and how I ride. I think the mullet is perfect for flow trails and trails that don’t involve rough stuff
I am thinking of getting a status 140 and wasn’t sure about the mullet setup, now I know it’s really good and faster than normal setup. Thank you Evan!
I had one of those Cannondale mullets back in the mid 1980s. First production mountain bike I ever saw. No suspension 26 on the front and 24 on the rear. No one around here had a mountain bike, there wasn't even mountain bike trails. I road hiking trails and an old off road motorcycle trails along side some local highways.
Bright yellow paint job with those oversized Cannondale tubing. Sun tour components, friction shift levers and power cam breaks. The breaks were okay, a lot of power when they were clean. But Cannondale in their wisdom put the rear brake down by the bottom bracket. It really made a clean looking rear end on the bike, but dirt would get into the brakes so very fast. Found some canvas and velcro covers for the brakes in some camping supply catalog . Remember there was no internet, no Amazon. That was the problem I had with finding tires too. 26 not a problem but a good 24.
I delt with the lack of suspension eventually with this big spring loaded stem. The thing must have weighed a pound or two. The bike used a traditional quill style stem so this spring loaded thing was about all I could find. Turns out that the bike might even be collectable today. Should have hung on to it. That and half dozen other old bikes or cool cars.
I've been curious about this for the MTB capital of the world; loved this test 🙌🏼
Thanks Luke! I just checked out your channel. Great editing!
@@EvansMTBSaga Thanks man! NGL i'm a little envious of your thumbnail skills 🙌🏼
Love it! I may need to covert my Arktos 150 to a mullet 😎
Great video. I didn’t think you would be that much faster with the mullet. I guess it does pay to experiment. I have bought a fork and wheelset from Speedvision bikes and would recommend them to anyone. Thanks for the video Saga. 👍
Try a 69ner…29 front/26 rear for your next video experiment!!
Wow that’s a sick improvement on that laptime!!! Like no doubt that it’s faster, crazy!
New subscriber here! I went mullet on my Rocky Mountain Instinct, and I'll probably never go back. Luckily it has lots of geo adjustments, plus I installed an angled headset and shorter cranks for the lower BB. 🤘🏻
That's rad! Isn't it rad how the modern bikes have so many adjustments! In a way the industry is shooting themselves in the foot because there's less of a reason to buy a new bike now. Do you happen to be a former pro motocrosser by any chance?
@@EvansMTBSaga different JG, but my dirt bike also happens to have mixed wheel sizes 😂
If mullets are better than full 29er, is mullet better than full 27.5 or mullet 27.5 front 26 rear? Maybe a new video???🎉😮
I run a 29 27.5 inch mullet and I love it you get so much control but also the monster truck feel of the 29 in the front
Has he tried 275 or even 26 setups? For the trails like these they should be way better
I'm back on an old 26" bike after riding a 29 and wonder if we gained anything with the larger wheels for the average rider.
Love the video, but where did the outro go with the flames and explosion? I waited for it, but it never came. Great video though.
Please keep up with this type of editing, I love it!
Mullet is amazing an a hardtail (e-) bike. I am still experimenting with it on a downhill bike. I am not sure yet if it is better on a long travel bike. The bike feels like a chopper.:D
Dude great edit and video! Those chrome rims are super sick 😎 I need to try out a mullet setup and see if I’m faster on it.
I’ve been waiting for this video for a while, it was so worth the wait. Good job.👏👏
I've been back an forth with rear wheel size recently(have both the spectral mullet and the 29er, both cf8 models) - I think the trade offs between either leans to more Riding pro's towards the smaller rear wheel IMO.
Other than XC bikes and maybe some short short travel Trail bikes i dont see the overal need for a 29er rear, maybe on certain DH race tracks where its wide open all the time.
Mullet bikes have been a great addition to the MTB world, more brands are opting for it just purely based on performance benefits which is great for consumers
I think the adjustability on frames is a nice added touch! Super fun to kind of stumble onto something that makes bikes better
@@EvansMTBSaga as much as im anti-giant... their new reign looks excellent as has alot of options.
Alchemy is literally one of the best looking bikes…and they are super underrated…and off the radar 😎
Agreed! I had never heard of them before they contacted me
Those chrome rims are sick. Just need a mullet version with Berd spokes now. Who needs to pay the mortgage, right?
Haha true! I would like some new wheels for the Enduro 😍
All I know is I hate the butt buzz I get from those 29 inch rear wheels when things get rowdy. Mullets are now my favourite for rooty, twisty trails with sudden little drops. Great video.
Dude the butt buzz with nobby tires is like touching a table saw blade
Try running a 27.5" frame and 29front? Maybe compare. I run 29 on the front of a 27.5 frame. You said that it lowered your bottom bracket. It actually picked mine up.
This would be an interesting comparison…. If you’re going mullet from which direction is best????
Your’s mullet compatible frame. What is difference between compatible one and normal one?
Shout out to speed vision, theyre legit. Cool to see them on the channel.
Just bought the yt Capra mx, haven’t got to ride it yet (comes on Monday). I’ve never rode a mullet before but I decided to send it since everyone seems to love them and I’m excited to ride one for the first time
Dude I think you're going to love it! Glad you went mullet
congratulations on 81.2 t subs. you did gain lot of subs like past 8 days... ps u are best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have been considering a mullet for a while but my one concern is I don’t think it would do very well for daily riding on road. If anyone has some good knowledge on this could help a lot thanks
I couldnt tell the difference between 29 meta tr and my meta sx, only difference is that 29s carry little bit more speed when you are pedaling. So yes, if only on road, 29 is better. But who does ride mtbs on the road :)
@@the10rv true statement but I use it for the road aswell as the trails as i can’t exactly drive yet
I’ve heard for road bikes it can be better to do the opposite of a mullet (put a smaller wheel in the front, or get a larger wheel in the back). It can help to get lower, more aero and supply more power to the cranks!
@@id8989 i still use Mtb but as I said I use it for trails aswell as daily use as it’s my only form of transportation
@@id8989 blasphemy :D
You needs to start with a 27.5 frame and under fork by 20mm to keep the geo happy and get the benefits of shorter chainstay
Even though my frame was meant to convert to mullet?
I rode a mullet in Utah, Santa Cruz Nomad. Wasn’t a fan, I pedal checked more in one ride than I have in a year.
I love my mullet emtb, it was born that way and is awsome
I've mullet 26x2.35 front and 24x2.8 rear
This is great for me (xc mtb)
damn the video quality has really improved since he moved
Thanks dude!
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Heck yeah. Mullets do feel pretty sweet!
But isn't nearly all the time gained in the mullet run from the increased climb wattage?
Yeww, great again mate. Getting better every vid keep it up!
“If Mullets are better than 29ers…”
Who said I was on 29?
My bike has a 26” at the back 🥱
well you used to have to have bare rims for rim brakes so it make painting at least that part of the rim pointless so you saw the chrome/silver/raw aluminium for so many years until disc brakes came to mountain biking. now you can paint your rim whatever you want.
For all of yall that cant be bothered to watch it mullets are better as he got. A 2 minutes difference on his lap time
Mullets are defiantly where it is at, especially if you like riding park, I’ve twisted my Scott ransoms geometry just so I could ride mullet 😂
what is the geometry with the mullet setup?
Ok, you have established that you like mullet over 29er. But how does mullet stack against the playful full 27.5?
I'm thinking of going back to a 27.5 bike. I admit 29's are fast on the flat but seem to be worst everywhere else.
I've been riding this bike for 7 years now! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L It was a great bike the day I got it, put it together, and went on my first ride; more importantly it's an even better bike today. I've ridden trails, street, and skatepark all on this bike. I have replaced almost every part on the bike. Some stuff has broken: derailleurs, wheels, shifter. Everything else were upgrades. The only ramaing original parts are the frame, bottom bracket, and crank set. BB and cranks will be upgraded soon. The geometry isn't great but that is really the only draw back to how good a value this bike is. Even after all the money I've spent upgrading it's still a more affordable bike than I'd have bought from a proper bike shop, especially with full suspension. I've also learned a lot about bikes working on it over the years. It really is one of the best perchases I've ever made and hopefully it'll still be around for another 7 years.
Alright, you got me when you started explaining bikes mixed with cars😏🤙 good explanation btw🙌 new subscriber 🥳🥳
Haha glad you liked it! Have you driven an s2000 before? It's a perfect comparison hahahah
Really amazing to see how MTB's are catching up to how motocross was 20 years ago. Now we only need the inverted forks
Hah right! MX bikes aren't even called mullets, it's just normal! There's a few brands doing inverted forks. I'd definitely like to try them
Inverted forks have been around for ages. Although still rare, even my first real bike almost 20 years ago already had one. Shiver SC, was kind of a pos considering the price tag though but enough for what I did. And looked f'ng rad.
They come with a few inherent downsides though. After all - nothing is for free - always a trade-off, you got to carefully choose what you're willing to compromise on.
It seems there's a few new SC ones coming up, with carbon tubes and all that funky sht. In a year or so there should be plenty of mid-term experience with them, but so far they couldn't hold water against the regular ones on the market. Except the Lefty, which is just built different.
I guess we'll see. But they sure won't just take over the market in a blink like some other things did.
It’s kinda strange seeing someone bring BMX style to mtb. They should make downhill BMX tracks like in BMX bandits (80s Oz film)
we need to keep chrome wheels back in the 90s
Hey Evan, awesome video as always!
Quick question, what computer do you use on your bike?
Check the description. Hammerhead Karoo 2
@@EvansMTBSaga I was looking into the Karoo 2. I don’t know much about bike computers but it does look solid! Thank you!
yall going from 29er and sizing down the front wheel saying its manouverable and all
what if im a 27.5 and sizing UP the front wheel ?
I remember my buddies in college making 69’ers. Always wish i got on the badwagon
15 seconde in and im telling you right now i love the new editing.
Oh dude thanks for noticing! Tried hard to change it up
"It was not a KOM" story of my life
One day I'll get one again!
whoaaa... I'm actually more surprised that you know your jdm cars. s2k is a perfect car to describe what the 27.5 rear is like. Glad you enjoyed the mullet!
Haha right! My mom owns an s2000 and I get to drive it here and there. I love that go cart feel. I hope my mom doesn't read this, but I've cornered that s2000 sooooo fast and it can handle anything 🤣
How are people still making videos about this - this has been the trend for at least 5 years now with countless videos of this type already.
Hey Evan, SICK VIDEO! you got any ideas about streaming again?
I do like the mullet!
You put down 30% more power on the climb with the smaller wheel of course it was faster 🤓
That explains why I'm struggling on hills on my 29er that I easily climbed on my 26 bike.
How does this work on a hard tale
Well done on the time!
Whistlindiesel?
@@EvansMTBSaga meant well done
You know what's even better??? Full on 27.5er. Not even joking. It's just more fun :D
May be more maneuverable but they aren’t gonna be as good when things get chunky but it’s a personal preference thing for sure, everyone likes something different
@@dylanperschon8479 with 2.5 or 2.6 tires and lower pressures they are brilliant on rough trails.
@@dimitriscsd still not as good as full 29 I’m sure they’re great still but nothing can beat the rollover from the 29s
@@dylanperschon8479 Agree to disagree! The only place where I believe a 29er is more efficient (and better) would probably be XC race bikes with minimum suspension.
Great stuff man. Like how that Float X magically transformed into a Float X2 😂.
The fox 36 transformed to a fox 38 as well 😂
@@EvansMTBSaga Haha…damn didn’t pick up on that one. 👌🏽
i think there is more in your mind than the reallity its al the mind set and energy that you bring to the specific run as you can see S4 was the same time on the 29 and the mullet.... i think maybe because it was your last ride on the trails thats bring more pure ride and les brain disorder
Awesome video!
Bro has infinite money
What happened if 26er rear rims and 27er front rims and while 29er fork?
Live stream this Sunday ?
6:25 Those pedals are tiny, for you. How are the shoes?
He did an 18:44, you're welcome
Now try 27.5 front and 26 rear, haha.
What is “better”? Faster does not mean better. I think it really comes down to how fun the bike is for you or the rider. More fun can equal better…
It's definitely tough to say what's better. Everything with bikes is pretty much subjective. But I'm trying to have fun with it acquiring data. I like getting numbers behind it
@@EvansMTBSaga the data is good for sure. How do we measure the fun factor? That’s probably the most important
You didn't use the mullet link?
The flip chip was already set to high
respect for the crazy content
First time seeing this dude and he looks just like vsauce except a mountain biker lol
I find it hard to believe that mullets are better when most Enduro pros don't use it....
Almost all DH do
Did you say bmx background? 🤔
Which i9 wheel is that?
regarding mullet, you should start with Jaromír Jágr :D
Is that Thor's hammer?
electrolyte drinks give me diarrhea ):
congratulations for 80k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope u fill get 100k
yeaa
What’s that song at the start of the video called ?
Deep Space Samurai - Forever Sunset
Omg when you climb outputting more watts you have a shorter time crazy
Is a Mullet configuration good for daily commuting? I have a 24x1.95 tyre and wheel and I want to install it on my 26T mtb
I'm not sure, it doesn't hurt to try it though!
@@EvansMTBSaga Thanks for the reply, I am gonna try it tommorow. My main worry is that the pedals will touch the ground while leaning which can cause a fall.
Oh yeah when leaning just have your outside foot in the low position and inside foot in the high position!
@@EvansMTBSaga It worked out! Now it feels like I'm pedaling nothing when I'm riding my bike even with a 14T freewheel and 52T crankset. I had to set the preload to the max on the rear coil shock to compensate for the low ride height but other than that it worked out very well
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You already have the Meta SX
Those chrome wheels came out amazing. I think i'm going to order myself some custom wheels. It is tax season after all, amiright? 🤣
Heck yeah perfect time for some upgrades! That's how I got started in mountain biking, check my first video. I got $1000 back and got the Axum and a few key upgrades
can you tell us or show us about your bmx history
please
I love this video
Hey Evan! When ever im in Bentonville I was wondering I could ride your test loop with you sometime! It would be sick!
Yeah dude! When are you coming down? I love the new test loop
@@EvansMTBSaga I'll be there on Sunday next week through Saturday or Sunday, so basically a week, I'm in Texas so it's about an 8 hour drive
Oh sweet dude. Do you have Instagram? DM me! Maybe I'll have you record a clip or two of me 😂
Yeah I just sent a DM to you