This podcast contains an important warning. The recent chaos within the Church is frightening. Hopefully, Bp. Bernard Fellay will soon be able to consecrate more bishops to the SSPX.
All this makes me cry . Please holy farther you cannot change our lord’s teachings. I am a cradle to grave catholic. Of 69 years I cannot and will not change my catholic teachings. for the this modern time. Our lord is the same today as he was over 2000 years ago. he as not changed we have and not for the good. but remember he told us you will tell a tree by the fruits it bears.
Thank you for the podcast. I enjoy listening to these long form discussions whenever I can. Fr. Murr, you hit the nail on the head in your last comments for me today - we are called to be faithful, not successful. That really struck a chord with me and the fact that we love who and and what we love no matter what - never walk away. God bless all of you.
What a great idea... I love to listen to his stories ...I love to listen to him on different podcasts ...I wrote to him twice and he replied back such a beautiful warm Priestly letter... gave me a lot of encouragement .. He will always be in my daily prayers and my thoughts..A privilege to read his books, wish I could have met him years ago and sat down and went to confession to him... I think it would have been a beautiful Sacramental experience ...What can I say I love Father beautiful priest. May he be Blessed ❤️🙏 always! South Dakota USA Margaret
@@Mi-Teresa I saw his interview with Fr. Nix. Both priests are amazing. I have his two books he recently had published. They are wonderful, but I really am excited with the next book.
Fr Murr represents to me what I imagine as the perfect parish priest...i mean this as great praise. I believe Jesus wishes for His children to have such sincere and solid faith taught!
As always, a conversation full of Truth, Hope, Faith, & Love. I have not experienced as much adversity as many in (trying to) be a devout Catholic. Still, the claws of discouragement reach out to me. I am graced w/ KNOWING that Christ gave us The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church as Home on earth. I’m staying Home.
BISHOP Tissier DE Mallerais when he came to the Phils about 2 month ago ask me to continue to pray for the canonization of Archbishop Lefebvre.. I asked... he will be a Saint in the future? .. he nodded and signed my missal. We will miss Bishop de Mallerais ...he is now home
Dear Father Murr! I love every word you say...and I relate to so much you share especially what you have shared by your experience of betrayal. Deep stuff. A lifetime of healing! I've read all your books, love Mother Paschalina, watch you and Dr. Moynihan...you are a kindred spirit to me...a "Godfather"?! Looking forward to your new book. Muchas gracias!
I'm afraid the apostasy has already occurred. There is a substantial number of bishops who seem to have lost the Faith and who may not even believe in God.
Agreed but I would say that throughout the entire Church the number of Bishops that actually have The True Catholic Faith are unfortunately a SUPER minority. Very very few.
I would say that a number of bishops never had any faith, they got into seminary to destroy the church. We need to study our faith to keep it and teach it. This is not happening.
I have dreamed for many years to visit the Gesu and San Ignacio - to see Brother Pozzo's ceiling of the glory of St. Ignatius, and to visit the tombs of the Jesuit saints whom I love so much... including St. Robert and his spiritual son, St. Aloysius right across from him at his own request. I'm going to wait till *after* this pontificate, though, and after any succeeding pontificates in the same mold.
The fact of the matter is that JP2 was the one who consecrated all of the heretical/immoral Bishops that are problematic today ,including Pope Francis.
This idea, that we must insist an apostate heretic is pope because Jesus was condemned by a valid hierarchy is ridiculous. There are many reasons to believe Bergoglio never was pope, and many others to believe he fell from the papacy, if he ever was pope. The same was not true of Caiphus. And, further, demanding we follow a Church hierarchy that is crucifying the Church is ridiculous even if you insist an apostate, heretic is pope. Sticking your head in the sand and waiting for the church officials who put the apostate in place or were appointed by him to declare him “unpoped” is like watching Christ be crucified and doing nothing because a “valid hierarchy” condemned him. Just because there is no process for declaring an apostate is not pope does not mean he is validly pope. The most dangerous thing that has happened to the Church ever is the appointment of the pagan idol-worshipping monster that people insist we must recognize as pope because they say no one can say he isn’t. Everyone with eyes to see can see that Bergoglio is not the pope. Those who insist he is pope just don’t want to believe it is true. Believe it. In any case, the answer is to make reparations. Put on sack cloth and sit in ashes. Because the one thing that is worse for the church than an invalid, apostate, heretic, idol-worshipping pope is a valid, apostate, heretic, idol-worshipping pope.
@@matthewschmidt5069 St. Robert Bellarmine and many other doctors of the church refutes you, popesplainer. Has there ever been a pope with more possible reasons why he is not pope? Or one who openly, publicly, unrepentantly led prayers to a pagan idol? The loss of the papal office need not be “enforced,” but merely recognized by the people. Bergoglio is materially not the pope with no need of a formal declaration. Just because Aaron was a legitimate high priest doesn’t mean it was okay to join in the revelry and worship of the golden calf. Bergoglio is a fraud and a usurper. Deal with it. Is your point really that an apostate, idol-worshipping heretic must be pope? And what then must we do? Join in his apostasy? Yeah, okay…
@@matthewschmidt5069 No, it doesn’t. Nothing I have said is refuted by canon 194. We either have an undeclared invalid pope who is an apostate, heretic and idol-worshipper, or a declared valid pope who is an apostate, heretic and idol-worshipper, or both. For the life of me, I cannot understand why some people believe that claiming an apostate, heretic, idol-worshipper is not pope is a problem and why it is better that an apostate, heretic, idol-worshipper is a valid pope. How does it make people feel better that Jesus was crucified by a valid high priest? He was also betrayed by a valid apostle, and abandoned by ten more. Should we be heartened that we are in the same boat as those who crucified Christ, betrayed him to be crucified, or abandoned him to be crucified? How is it better that Bergoglio is a type of Caiphus? Bergoglio is, indeed, crucifying the church. Please explain why it is better that a valid pope hammers in the nails than an invalid one?
LINK: ruclips.net/video/YvVgpRHX5YI/видео.htmlfeature=shared Stine's recent Sept 6th video Father Murr is commenting on is titled "Benedict XVI Tried To Warn The Us About The Apostasy Led By Francis"
Could it be that Pope Francis asks us (as you said) to be very honest and very open, so that it would be very clear who should/should not be promoted and who should be “cancelled” ?
And yet father eucharistic miracles have been occurring in the NO mass, my NO mass is certainly not full of guitar music and lukewarm priests, quite the opposite in fact, your anti NO mass comments can hurt us faithful who cannot attend TLM, please be humble if only for our sakes. Blessings.
NO it does NOT "hurt" you, your Parish or any others. It's a blessing that you have a well done Novus Ordo Missae to attend... except that's not the topic of discussion. And no one is coming to take your Novus Ordo from you. Less than ~1.5% of Catholics advocate to simply have some access to the Spiritual Heritage of their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, gg grandparents, the Saints, the Church Fathers, The Apostles & CHRIST HIMSELF passed on to them down through the ages [The Mass Of The Ages aka Tridentine Rite which was offered long before, but codified during CO Trent], or that was supposed to be passed on to them. Instead of the passing on of their Divine/Spiritual Inheritance, that which was solid, unifying, Divine Holy Apostolic Tradition that they offered, attended & served at AND their ancient, historical Churches that were lovingly adorned & maintained by the local people down through the ages, they were subsequently stolen from them & ANNIHILATED. In addition, Catholic Churches & property was stolen, looted & destroyed, martyrs made throughout history by prots & ☪️invaders etc. For example, over 1500 ancient, historical Catholic Churches were burnt to the ground just in Armenia/ Azerbaijan alone in the past 5 years. Every day another stolen Catholic Church, Monastery, Convent, Abby, is burned down, destroyed, scrapped, desecrated in France, UK, wider Europe, including untold numbers of Churches, Monestaries, Abbeys, Convents in the Levant area. It's also occurring in the US. The destroyers don't go for the post VII Churches unless it's to rob the donation box or the worst, steal Tabernacles w Consecrated Host within. The major targets are the ancient or historical ones. I'm betting you can ascertain the reason why, and this reason makes it most urgently important to learn & know Church history, secular history, and the who, what, when, where, why these changes occured. Catholics were forced to watch their Churches be chained shut, altars/altar rails/confessionals/Sacred Art/Relics smashed, desecrated, hidden away, sold, whitewashed. Their priests were either shipped away & replaced, or were told they must conform or be banished. All while what was Catholic & unified the Catholic world for two millennia going back to Christ & His Apostles was millitantly, belligerently, cruely, carelessly destroyed in front of their faces. Countless suffered & continue to suffer through this age. My area held out until the mid 90's. But the upheaval arrived. Countless thought a different "sect" bought their churches & they were in the wrong place. NO answers, NO empathy, NO pastoral accompaniment or listening or care was afforded to them by what was/is their own Church, THE CHURCH. But they endured & will continue to endure. There are hundreds if not thousands of Novus Ordo oriented channels to go to. This channel, which provides a little life raft, some support to these Catholics and provides some badly needed education about the Church & history for all. So, if you choose to watch this channel, this little life raft which recognises the persecuted & provides a much needed respite; kindly try to put yourself in their shoes, try to see it from their perspective. The perspective of this TINY minority who lived through these excruciatingly painful events which have now been dramatically accelerated. They are simply trying not to be crushed, tossed aside, chased away & scorned... A G A I N. They are simply trying to teach a history that many Catholics were never taught, or were taught but were scorned if they attempted to ask very important questions to which the answers or explanation was never given. +DG+AM+JMJ+
Unfortunately your experience is Not the norm. It was & is the vehicle by which Modernism infiltrated the Church. If you choose to attend it that's your choice but that doesn't mean it isn't what it is.
I don’t believe he said that, I attend the FSSP now here in Australia previously I attended NO with a Priest 40 years in the same Parish very Traditional except he faced the people (which I don’t agree with) no other person giving Communion ever than he , last year he went to his Heavenly reward. But after attending the local churches it became evident as a 87 y/o and boarding school educated by Nuns and Daily Mass I had to search for a Traditional Holy Mass, women have no place on the altar and only Consecrated hands must distribute Our Lord in Communion.
@@judithmcrae3704 Hi. Well he did mention guitar music and i added lukewarm priests as an indication that our priests are certainly not, i agree with you're comments.
The Fsspx bishops are no valid bishops at all. It is not possible to declare oneself bishop when the catholic church does not accept him as a bishop. Lefevbre did not trust St.John Paul 2 and he did not even trust God himself.I cannot imagine that somebody who always talked bad about St.John Paul 2 and Benedikt 16 is in heaven. It is not catholic what fsspx does.They do not accept that St .John Paul 2 is Holy!!!
+ABL conferred the traditional Rite of Ordination & Episcopal Consecration on his Bishops,they are valid just like the Thuc and Mendez lines of Priests/Bishops.
Fr Murr I thank G☦️D, JESUS CHRIST, for you and ALL the Few Priests, called 'cancelled" Priests as you....Who ARE, TRUE REAL SHEPHERDS OF CHRIST Unlike the Endless brood of vipers and Judases in disguises as Bergoglio and his reprobates!!!!
Bishop Bernard Tissier de Mallerais RIP, Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him, may he rest in peace.
Amen
Let us remember Jorge Bergoglio said, "Make a mess." Those are not the words of a defender of the Faith, but of a disruptor.
This podcast contains an important warning. The recent chaos within the Church is frightening. Hopefully, Bp. Bernard Fellay will soon be able to consecrate more bishops to the SSPX.
All this makes me cry . Please holy farther you cannot change our lord’s teachings. I am a cradle to grave catholic. Of 69 years I cannot and will not change my catholic teachings. for the this modern time. Our lord is the same today as he was over 2000 years ago. he as not changed we have and not for the good. but remember he told us you will tell a tree by the fruits it bears.
Would Luther change your faith if he was the pope? Why would you let this one to worry you?
@@Mi-bi6ez no I am a cradle to grave catholic. I will not be going anywhere. God bless you
Thank you for the podcast. I enjoy listening to these long form discussions whenever I can. Fr. Murr, you hit the nail on the head in your last comments for me today - we are called to be faithful, not successful. That really struck a chord with me and the fact that we love who and and what we love no matter what - never walk away. God bless all of you.
I could sit and listen to Fr. Murr’s stories all day. He should have Fr. Murr’s Story Hour. lol
What a great idea... I love to listen to his stories ...I love to listen to him on different podcasts ...I wrote to him twice and he replied back such a beautiful warm Priestly letter... gave me a lot of encouragement ..
He will always be in my daily prayers and my thoughts..A privilege to read his books, wish I could have met him years ago and
sat down and went to confession to him... I think it would have been a beautiful Sacramental experience
...What can I say I love Father beautiful priest. May he be Blessed ❤️🙏 always! South Dakota USA Margaret
@@germain1947 wow what a gift to have him write you back. I pray for him daily also. He is truly a beautiful soul. God Bless
His new book is coming out next year, very interesting interview with PadrePerigrino podcast
@@Mi-Teresa I saw his interview with Fr. Nix. Both priests are amazing. I have his two books he recently had published. They are wonderful, but I really am excited with the next book.
Fr Murr represents to me what I imagine as the perfect parish priest...i mean this as great praise. I believe Jesus wishes for His children to have such sincere and solid faith taught!
Thank you, Fr. Murr, for your encouragement and assurance of God's will and patience.
Excellent video. Thank you gentlemen. From Ireland ☘️.
As always, another fantastic show. Thank you again.
As always, a conversation full of Truth, Hope, Faith, & Love. I have not experienced as much adversity as many in (trying to) be a devout Catholic. Still, the claws of discouragement reach out to me. I am graced w/ KNOWING that Christ gave us The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church as Home on earth. I’m staying Home.
Special thanks for having on Fr. Murr.
BISHOP Tissier DE Mallerais when he came to the Phils about 2 month ago ask me to continue to pray for the canonization of Archbishop Lefebvre.. I asked... he will be a Saint in the future? .. he nodded and signed my missal.
We will miss Bishop de Mallerais ...he is now home
Pray for his Soul.
🙏For Bishop de Mallerais. RIP
That was just Beautiful Powerful words!!
Amen!! God Bless you Gentlemen!!
Viva Christo Rey
When I cannot go to the Mass ( Tridentine ) I watch it in RUclips.
Thank you so much, all of you dear people! I needed to hear that.
Give young people the wrong ideas -- if they are listening to you, Fr. Murr, they will get a lot more correct ideas.
Dear Father Murr! I love every word you say...and I relate to so much you share especially
what you have shared by your experience of betrayal. Deep stuff. A lifetime of healing!
I've read all your books, love Mother Paschalina, watch you and Dr. Moynihan...you are a kindred spirit to me...a "Godfather"?! Looking forward to your new book. Muchas gracias!
Oh Yes, I see the Hand of God in all of this!
The sun danced also in Heroldsbach ,Germany.The Pope saw the sun dancing as a sign from Mary ,the queen of roses in Heroldsbach.
Antonio Gaudi built beautiful churches. Baroque is my favorite as in Vierzehnheiligen and in southern Germany and Austria. Gorgeous!
I'm afraid the apostasy has already occurred. There is a substantial number of bishops who seem to have lost the Faith and who may not even believe in God.
Agreed but I would say that throughout the entire Church the number of Bishops that actually have The True Catholic Faith are unfortunately a SUPER minority. Very very few.
Vatican 2 from 1965 ring a bell?
I would say that a number of bishops never had any faith, they got into seminary to destroy the church. We need to study our faith to keep it and teach it. This is not happening.
I believe so
Réquiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei. Requiescat in pace.
We will not go back to the NO. Give me that old time religion, that is good enough for me.
"I am from the Vatican and I come to" help" you i.e, suppress you" they seem to forget who is in control.
I have dreamed for many years to visit the Gesu and San Ignacio - to see Brother Pozzo's ceiling of the glory of St. Ignatius, and to visit the tombs of the Jesuit saints whom I love so much... including St. Robert and his spiritual son, St. Aloysius right across from him at his own request.
I'm going to wait till *after* this pontificate, though, and after any succeeding pontificates in the same mold.
The fact of the matter is that JP2 was the one who consecrated all of the heretical/immoral Bishops that are problematic today ,including Pope Francis.
❤❤❤I learned to drive in Turino and Napoli😂
There is a passage where St Paul says that heresies are necessary to strengthen the church.
shifting the wheat from husk
There was more innocence just a half-century earlier. That's where true enjoyment comes from.
Ezekiel 34
This idea, that we must insist an apostate heretic is pope because Jesus was condemned by a valid hierarchy is ridiculous. There are many reasons to believe Bergoglio never was pope, and many others to believe he fell from the papacy, if he ever was pope. The same was not true of Caiphus. And, further, demanding we follow a Church hierarchy that is crucifying the Church is ridiculous even if you insist an apostate, heretic is pope. Sticking your head in the sand and waiting for the church officials who put the apostate in place or were appointed by him to declare him “unpoped” is like watching Christ be crucified and doing nothing because a “valid hierarchy” condemned him.
Just because there is no process for declaring an apostate is not pope does not mean he is validly pope. The most dangerous thing that has happened to the Church ever is the appointment of the pagan idol-worshipping monster that people insist we must recognize as pope because they say no one can say he isn’t. Everyone with eyes to see can see that Bergoglio is not the pope. Those who insist he is pope just don’t want to believe it is true. Believe it.
In any case, the answer is to make reparations. Put on sack cloth and sit in ashes. Because the one thing that is worse for the church than an invalid, apostate, heretic, idol-worshipping pope is a valid, apostate, heretic, idol-worshipping pope.
Canon 194 refutes you
@@matthewschmidt5069
St. Robert Bellarmine and many other doctors of the church refutes you, popesplainer. Has there ever been a pope with more possible reasons why he is not pope? Or one who openly, publicly, unrepentantly led prayers to a pagan idol?
The loss of the papal office need not be “enforced,” but merely recognized by the people. Bergoglio is materially not the pope with no need of a formal declaration.
Just because Aaron was a legitimate high priest doesn’t mean it was okay to join in the revelry and worship of the golden calf. Bergoglio is a fraud and a usurper. Deal with it.
Is your point really that an apostate, idol-worshipping heretic must be pope? And what then must we do? Join in his apostasy? Yeah, okay…
Here here!
@@matthewschmidt5069
No, it doesn’t. Nothing I have said is refuted by canon 194. We either have an undeclared invalid pope who is an apostate, heretic and idol-worshipper, or a declared valid pope who is an apostate, heretic and idol-worshipper, or both. For the life of me, I cannot understand why some people believe that claiming an apostate, heretic, idol-worshipper is not pope is a problem and why it is better that an apostate, heretic, idol-worshipper is a valid pope.
How does it make people feel better that Jesus was crucified by a valid high priest? He was also betrayed by a valid apostle, and abandoned by ten more. Should we be heartened that we are in the same boat as those who crucified Christ, betrayed him to be crucified, or abandoned him to be crucified? How is it better that Bergoglio is a type of Caiphus? Bergoglio is, indeed, crucifying the church. Please explain why it is better that a valid pope hammers in the nails than an invalid one?
@@josephcillojr.7035 Jesus said to obey the Phairsees. Which competent authority has declared Francis invalid?
Wow. Great discussion!!❤️🙏. Do you have the link to Dr Stine’s video Fr Murr mentioned?
His channel is Return to Tradition here on youtube
ruclips.net/video/7DzBqGwHsYc/видео.htmlsi=C2Kbfk9nVxCrKCtL
ruclips.net/video/Oxekf8p7SOs/видео.htmlsi=-qppiHj-mYJ03An9
LINK: ruclips.net/video/YvVgpRHX5YI/видео.htmlfeature=shared Stine's recent Sept 6th video Father Murr is commenting on is titled "Benedict XVI Tried To Warn The Us About The Apostasy Led By Francis"
@@pinknickelvidz thank you. I thought that must be the one.
Do you think that this time is what Benedict XVI foretold with the "smaller church" statement?
🙏🙏🙏
I want to go. On Pilgrimmage with you guys...,we will see what the go8
Our Lady of Fatima who? Until the requests of Our Lady of Fatima are heeded we will have no peace.
Requiescat in Pace +Tissier De Mallerais. Fr Murr will you work with Thuc + Mendez Bishops/Priests?
Fr Murr, Should one receive Communion if we do not believe Bergolio is the Pope?
Could it be that Pope Francis asks us (as you said) to be very honest and very open, so that it would be very clear who should/should not be promoted and who should be “cancelled” ?
is fr. murr a canceled priest?
NO!
Can a Heretic become a pope?
So Father knows all of the traitors?
And yet father eucharistic miracles have been occurring in the NO mass, my NO mass is certainly not full of guitar music and lukewarm priests, quite the opposite in fact, your anti NO mass comments can hurt us faithful who cannot attend TLM, please be humble if only for our sakes.
Blessings.
NO it does NOT "hurt" you, your Parish or any others.
It's a blessing that you have a well done Novus Ordo Missae to attend... except that's not the topic of discussion. And no one is coming to take your Novus Ordo from you.
Less than ~1.5% of Catholics advocate to simply have some access to the Spiritual Heritage of their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, gg grandparents, the Saints, the Church Fathers, The Apostles & CHRIST HIMSELF passed on to them down through the ages [The Mass Of The Ages aka Tridentine Rite which was offered long before, but codified during CO Trent], or that was supposed to be passed on to them.
Instead of the passing on of their Divine/Spiritual Inheritance, that which was solid, unifying, Divine Holy Apostolic Tradition that they offered, attended & served at AND their ancient, historical Churches that were lovingly adorned & maintained by the local people down through the ages, they were subsequently stolen from them & ANNIHILATED.
In addition, Catholic Churches & property was stolen, looted & destroyed, martyrs made throughout history by prots & ☪️invaders etc. For example, over 1500 ancient, historical Catholic Churches were burnt to the ground just in Armenia/ Azerbaijan alone in the past 5 years. Every day another stolen Catholic Church, Monastery, Convent, Abby, is burned down, destroyed, scrapped, desecrated in France, UK, wider Europe, including untold numbers of Churches, Monestaries, Abbeys, Convents in the Levant area. It's also occurring in the US. The destroyers don't go for the post VII Churches unless it's to rob the donation box or the worst, steal Tabernacles w Consecrated Host within. The major targets are the ancient or historical ones. I'm betting you can ascertain the reason why, and this reason makes it most urgently important to learn & know Church history, secular history, and the who, what, when, where, why these changes occured.
Catholics were forced to watch their Churches be chained shut, altars/altar rails/confessionals/Sacred Art/Relics smashed, desecrated, hidden away, sold, whitewashed. Their priests were either shipped away & replaced, or were told they must conform or be banished. All while what was Catholic & unified the Catholic world for two millennia going back to Christ & His Apostles was millitantly, belligerently, cruely, carelessly destroyed in front of their faces.
Countless suffered & continue to suffer through this age. My area held out until the mid 90's. But the upheaval arrived.
Countless thought a different "sect" bought their churches & they were in the wrong place. NO answers, NO empathy, NO pastoral accompaniment or listening or care was afforded to them by what was/is their own Church, THE CHURCH.
But they endured & will continue to endure.
There are hundreds if not thousands of Novus Ordo oriented channels to go to. This channel, which provides a little life raft, some support to these Catholics and provides some badly needed education about the Church & history for all.
So, if you choose to watch this channel, this little life raft which recognises the persecuted & provides a much needed respite; kindly try to put yourself in their shoes, try to see it from their perspective. The perspective of this TINY minority who lived through these excruciatingly painful events which have now been dramatically accelerated. They are simply trying not to be crushed, tossed aside, chased away & scorned... A G A I N. They are simply trying to teach a history that many Catholics were never taught, or were taught but were scorned if they attempted to ask very important questions to which the answers or explanation was never given.
+DG+AM+JMJ+
Unfortunately your experience is Not the norm. It was & is the vehicle by which Modernism infiltrated the Church. If you choose to attend it that's your choice but that doesn't mean it isn't what it is.
I don’t believe he said that,
I attend the FSSP now here in Australia previously I attended NO with a Priest 40 years in the same Parish very Traditional except he faced the people (which I don’t agree with) no other person giving Communion ever than he , last year he went to his Heavenly reward. But after attending the local churches it became evident as a 87 y/o and boarding school educated by Nuns and Daily Mass I had to search for a Traditional Holy Mass, women have no place on the altar and only Consecrated hands must distribute Our Lord in Communion.
@@judithmcrae3704 Hi. Well he did mention guitar music and i added lukewarm priests as an indication that our priests are certainly not, i agree with you're comments.
Yes ,but the fsspx does not want to be one with the one holy catholic church.
The Fsspx bishops are no valid bishops at all. It is not possible to declare oneself bishop when the catholic church does not accept him as a bishop. Lefevbre did not trust St.John Paul 2 and he did not even trust God himself.I cannot imagine that somebody who always talked bad about St.John Paul 2 and Benedikt 16 is in heaven. It is not catholic what fsspx does.They do not accept that St .John Paul 2 is Holy!!!
The Vatican recognises the validity of the SSPX Bishops, so I don't think we should doubt that.
+ABL conferred the traditional Rite of Ordination & Episcopal Consecration on his Bishops,they are valid just like the Thuc and Mendez lines of Priests/Bishops.
Fr Murr I thank G☦️D, JESUS CHRIST, for you and ALL the Few Priests, called 'cancelled" Priests as you....Who ARE, TRUE REAL SHEPHERDS OF CHRIST Unlike the Endless brood of vipers and Judases in disguises as Bergoglio and his reprobates!!!!