I agree.I went to M & S food hall in Doncaster a week ago and walked out empty handed first time ever. I object to paying their now exorbitant prices AND smaller portions. I normally spend quite a bit when I go albeit not on a very regular basis due to their higher prices but nicer quality. Until now! Shame I doubt Ill be going again as I expect with many others. Youre proving my point in the two M & S pies/pudding. Thanks for your input and good down to earth honest reviews.
I think a lot of businesses (not just M&S) are being greedy and increasing their profits under the disguise of the cost of living crisis. If more ppl were like you and refused to buy overpriced goods then I’m sure prices would fall.
If you want a decent pie make your own, buy puff pastry or make your own shortcrust, add your filling of choice. Bigger and better! Love the pictures, especially the one of you, very talented girls!
Following Gareth’s channel has turned me further and further away from processed foods, it’s fairly simple and far more satisfying to make your own. My ‘go to’ RUclips channels for pies are John Kirkwood and Mr. Paul’s Pantry.
Absolutely 👍 Plus, if you make your own, the possibilities are endless. I've made pies out of all sorts....... curries, roast dinner, full English breakfast, fish n chips & mushy peas, chilli con carne & pizza/burger ingredients, to name but a few 😏 Had a few fails (pasta dishes just do NOT work in a pie btw 🤢) but you can't make omelettes without breaking a few eggs 😉🤣🤣
Im with you on "where is the filling" its happened with various brands over time, i want a pie with no fresh air layer at the top but it seems hard at times even though a box shows a different story.
I agree entirely. There should be a small gap that allows a layer of hor air to form which cooks the underside of the pastry dry, but anything less than about three quarters full is just taking liberties.
Another great review. Fully agree with your opinion. 200g should be pie weight and filling should be mean close to full. £3 for a pie that's half air just doesn't sit well even if it does taste great.
It is scandalous how Marketing companies get away with these things. Weight after cooking 180g and the pie contains 19% Chicken, So 36g ? Cracking honest review Gareth as always, Rip Off Britain is just getting worse, The top Ten percenters get richer....
@@davidsworld5837 I was going to say the same - if you want a chicken pie with 40% or 50% chicken, then make it yourself. The shop pies always seem to be 18ish to 23ish percent meat.
The e next to the weight means it has a tolerance. Different items/weight bands have different tolerances. It's unlikely to be exactly the weight stated, but look up the bands for different food types.
Yes, the weight fiddling, it's niggling, isn't it. We all know things and food quantity weights per item are a lot, lot less than what they were. Also, the producers are now using much cheaper ingredients and you can tell. The Pie looked glorious after being cooked and cut open. Never had a Pie in a Bun, will have to give it a Go ! We call them Cobs in Leicester ! 😂 Top review, Gareth. Thank you 👍👏😉
Interested to hear this, as social media has been talking about M&S as if everything they touch turns to gold over the past few months. From ‘their veg lasts ten times longer than anyone else’ to ‘it’s actually just as cheap as the other supermarkets’. People are crazy. They charge FIVE POUNDS for an individual curry, eg madras - not some extra special range, just a bog standard curry. And you know what, it’s no nicer than one from Aldi, Asda or anywhere else. It’s amazing what some nice packaging and a nice shopping environment can do to your mindset
Agree with you so much Gaz about being short changed by suppliers. You should get what you pay for.. especially during hard times for many. Notice how the weight discrepancies are always under and never over
I don't care for pies out of boxes and if I want one, I make it from scratch. But well done for checking this out and especially the weight, as manufacturers and supermarkets need calling out on what exactly they mean when they state a product weight. Yes, and where was the chicken, where were the mushrooms? This pie is no more than a comfort snack. I can buy an entire cooked chicken for £4.50! Never mind if it's your opinion. You are so right. Companies are making themselves rich on our lazy habits. But come on Gareth, it's really naughty eating yours in a muffin! 😄
I just buy pukka pies generally. They're always on offer and are decent. £1.25 I'm paying at the moment. Always plenty of filling. Holland's are also a decent option when on offer. 75p at Tesco ATM I think I've just paid.
@@monicaduncan7109 Holland's pies are made about 3 mile from my house. They're not the best, but they're decent. They get extra points for being shortcrust pastry and not puff. You can usually get them for £1 or less too.
Got as far as the cutting open and I have to say I would be REALLY disappointed with what's inside for £3. Come on M&S, your standards have hit an all time low
The chicken bones are boiled down to make the stock. The label says chicken stock follwed by brackets and everything inside the brackets is what is used to make the stock. Hope that helps and another great review 👍🏻
You're spot on, Gareth. Everything seems to be shrinking in size and getting more expensive! Excellent review nonetheless- love to see you supporting British suppliers.
Love the art work especially the one of you Gareth, I think the long arms is because your always cooking lol. They should call that mushroom pie with a bit of chicken,.😮
Should be called Mushroom Pie (with a bit of chicken) 🤦♂️. At least plenty of healthy vegetables. Went to Aldi today & brought one of their large frozen Chicken pies. Looking forward to eating that this week as the steak version is 😋😋😋. Top review 🤩
ive been having pie cobs for years when we go to local outdoor market, same with cheeseburger and fried egg cob with some lightly fried onions... a bit of brown sauce goes a long way...
M&S - I think not. Plenty of supermarkets/shops to purchase goods from. This one was not value for money. However, thank you for reviewing the pie and saving us from an exepense. xx
*Outstanding review* and I do share your opinion and agree. Love how you break everything down for us and of course we get to see firsthand before buying much of the time too. Awesome. This is why it’s hard work doing what your doing.takes a lot more time than most of us realise. Understand. The channel is getting more successful you see… well done 🔥🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Try your own taste test and comparison. I did my own tomato soup a fortnight ago. No filming, just written notes, few photos. It does take a lot of work and effort. Gareth works a lot harder than we think. But he seems to enjoy it and not looking too bad.
Great review as always and spot on about the filling amount and especially the lack of chicken then the price Gaz you are spot on with your reviews keep up with the excellent reviews 👏👏👍👍
I had one of these just last week and I completely agree with you Garerh when it comes to having not much filling..it was really delicious but why so little?...for three pounds you expect so much more. As always great video..keep them coming mate.
Yeah we are being ripped off constantly from every angle possible and always have been but lately it's like they are just pushing us to see how much we can take, also that sticker on the front says 'supporting British suppliers' unfortunately that isn't the farmers, these are just mere supply companies. If you want to support local farmers and businesses then buy from your local Butchers and Veg shops. I started this last year and the savings are UNREAL !!! Honestly. As a single guy I spend an average of around £100 per Month at the Butchers, they do various packs and mix and match things on their website and that lasst me more than the month and the Veg shop is usually a tenner a week. So my food for the month went from around £450 per month to around £200 ish by the time I buy condiments, bread, coffee etc from Aldi's, Honestly people look into it, freeze your meat and take out what you need in the morning (set a meat alarm on your phone) as I often forget in the morn 😵💫
I'm going to buy some scales, then, when a product is underweight, i will return to store...Just getting fed up being ripped off. Nice vid, keep em coming.
Totally agree with all you say here. Very over priced for an individual pie and considering they are mass manufactured. Any bakers shop sells hot baked pies and also has many overheads and can't be buying in as much bulk quantity. The filling is also no more than a couple of spoonfulls. Poor really. Great review. Great mark up on these i think
I used to buy the odd item in M+S but not for a long time! Aldi does the job just as well - although Aldi is no stranger to shrinkflation German ham is now half the content you used to get! [Italian holding up well!]
Loved this video most so far,had me laughing my head off your face when you kept finding mushrooms ha ha . Thanks for being responding to your subscribers comments as means a lot as shows you care. As ever perfect art work by your darling angels.Hope to see you around London if you visit
Nice set of scales and a lovely gift for you. If I make a chicken pie I put veg and gravy in as I don't like mushrooms. The pie was nice to look at for the pastry alone but the filling out me off. Another excellent video. Thanks Gareth
I don't mind if you miss me out Gaz... I'm used to it from the mrs! The weigh in is really coming into it's own now isn't it. You've always weighed the food and now showing what we're really losing. Cheers mate
Love the reviews Gareth and great channel and content..personally, I think it’s just best to make your own…pretty easy and cheap to make and tons of vids on how…John Kirkwoods channel is a good place to start.
At 3quid a pie if you eat a lot of pies I would invest in a pie maker. Buy puff pastry and portion it keep in freezer. Then when you have a chicken a joint what's left make a pie. Bit fiddly but it will be filled great show Gareth
Honestly Gaz, you don’t have to apologise for not replying to every comment when you have so many followers. Most of the the content creators on RUclips don’t! It’s near on impossible to do so as your channel is constantly growing. I’m sure the vast majority of your followers on here understand that and don’t expect a reply to every comment they add, I certainly don’t. If you reply to everyone, you’ll miss the one’s that you really need to answer! ❤️
Used to go to M&S as a treat because their stuff was all awesome, standards have slipped a bit amount wise but the taste is still there. Where do they keep costs down though ? A bit less filling ? Less flavour ? Less staff ? Less stores ?
Never worth 3 quid. More mushrooms.. because they are cheap! M&S should be ashamed. If they can't get the weight right, what's the chances of the rest of the information on the packet being right? Shocking for this company. Vote with your feet folks. Brilliant and honest review 👍
Just a little trick to save you putting food directly on to your scales. Put a small plate or bowl onto your scales and the zero it. It will the give you the exact weight of what is on the plate. Loved CUP EYES the snowman.😀
Again, the pastry looks okay mate, but I agree with you: the pie looks mostly pastry and mushrooms - both being really cheap ingredients for the manufacturer to use. The more expensive bit - the chicken - is obvious by it's absence. As nice as the pie may taste, paying £3 for a mushroom & pastry pie (the ingredients of which probably cost about 5p in the bulk numbers they're produced) makes it all a bit of a rip off to me. We're paying more and more for this sort of stuff at the moment, but getting less and less for our money at the same time. Good review again though - thanks. Regards, Dave
Hi Gareth I agree with you that things are getting smaller and more expensive. We might need a magnifying glass to see items and a bank loan soon. Lol. 😆
Great review again Gareth 👍👍. When you first took the pie from the box? I thought it was a nice size and it was going to be at least 9 1/2 out of 10. The lack of filling, especially chicken, made it between 1 and 5 in my opinion. It certainly was not worth £3 of anyones money. It's not like chicken costs a fortune, even with today's price hikes being what they are. 🥴🥴. When I occasionally have a pie, either chicken or steak, I get the Lidl or Aldi family pie which will last me two days at least. The cost is well under £3, so good value as well. Keep up the good work and keep the reviews rolling in.
The 'e' sign next to the weight means its an average weight because there is no way to ensure every individual pie is exactly 200g. However, I will admit that your pie is right at the limits of what's reasonable, really 10g should be enough imho.
You've been done Gareth. Mushrooms are a lot cheaper than chicken. I won't be buying them for three quid. On another matter Imo you shouldn't answer every comment, just know we appreciate you doing g this.
Gr8 vid as always m8, i agree with the shrink flation comment ..i,m from oldham, try a hollands meat & potato pie in an oven bottom muffin with brown sauce they're lovely...lol
M&S food always tastes nice but they have always been skingy on the fillings. Three seems a lot for a pie & I thought Greggs was getting expensive lol. Great video as usual but pie in a bun/muffin! I haven't seen that since my old army days.
Thank you for another brilliant video. M&S food is very tasty,but for the price of there food is very expensive. They should put more chicken in there pies. I always love your videos. 😊😊😊
Ohhh I do miss good Cumbrian food. Originally from the North Lakes but live in London now. When I visit home I always go to Cranston’s butchers for their unique Cumberland sausage. Never found one as good. Also fill up my ice box with a bit to bring back down. My London born girlfriend agrees it’s the nicest she’s ever had, and cockney girls are brutally honest.
Sadly, this shrinkflation has been going on for years, and M&S are by no means alone, nor the worst. Pie, pastie, sausage roll and "savoury bake" fillings are getting smaller, less meaty and the pastry is getting thicker. I've also noticed that supermarket Scotch Eggs have smaller eggs rattling around inside their sausage-meat casings, and cheese pasties have less cheese and are padded out with cheaper ingredients like mashed potato and onion. Rip-off Britain, indeed.
Yes, Gareth, you are allowed your opinion. Never let anyone stop you from saying what you think. We value your opinion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. Keeep up the good work. It's great that you're continuing to tell it like it is ❤
I would be contacting M & S to ask them if their pie weight is supposed to include the box, and send them your video as evidence, as I am sure the weight should be of just the pie, not the packaging. Trading Standards might also be interested in this.
Net weight should be just the contents of the package( the product ,in this case the pie alone)... gross weight would be the total weight inc packaging .
The corporations are making record profits. An economist was recently asked if the businesses have to keep raising prices to stay in business. The answer was NO. They will keep raising prices until the consumer says enough is enough and stops or cuts down on consuming their products.
To me for price and taste are Pukka pies. In Sainsburys this week they had individual Chicken & Mushroom pies for £1.50. And they were full to the brim inside with more gravy than m&s.
I read recently that the e at the side of the weight means estimated. So the pie you just reviewed was 200g e. It must be a bit if a getout for them. Thankyou for all of your honest and entertaining reviews!
When i used to work for a baker many a moon ago, weights and measures would fine for a loaf being under weight , The should not be allowed to get away with it.
I love your honest reviews, they sell you a well know name product that as you can see isn't good, and we shouldn't buy, making your own would be cheaper and tastier, well done for showing us👍
Ingredients - chicken bones. 1) Is this covering themselves in case a bone gets stuck in ones throat? 2) I'm getting suspicious about companies "padding out ingredients". So are bones being ground up to pad out the filling now. It's not a ridiculous idea as we are being told that bugs will be ground up and added to our food. 3) Under weight - People weighing food contents? - Nah, whose gonna do that? The bald Foodie Guy will - Hurrah. 4) Only 2/3 full. 5) £3 for that - forget it.
Hi Gareth, if you’re in Aldi, see if they have the Kilmarnock pie in the shops in your area , we have them here in Scotland, they’re delicious so are Bells steak and gravy pies, come up and see us sometime and do a review, cheers mate 👍🏴
Good review, Gaz. I'm hearing more and more about seed oils not being good for us as well as palm oil. Having to read every ingredient before buying stuff is tiresome and time-consuming.
Things like mushroom which is supplied dried will be listed as the dried weight. But when water is added they then become a main ingredient. Just a way of manipulating the ingredients list.
Unfortunately we are now living in rip off Britain. Food cost is ridiculous and doesn’t represent value for money across the board. Don’t think I’ve ever had a decent pie from a supermarket. Best to support your local butcher for pies
Hi Gareth I see you took my comment on board & put that pie in between a nice buttered roll & chowed down? Lol. Best way to have a pie if it's lacking in filling but just tastes ok in my opinion. I know I spoke about trying the real pie company in my last comment to you. One thing I will say is that they are a family business, started off life as a butchers shop that made a variety of pies weekly, which were always on hot demand from their local customers & sold out everytime. When the owners decided to retire/pass the business down that's when the family decided to keep to the pie selling side of the business through it's popularity & it really took off. I know by the sounds of it you must love a good pie, the M&S ones looked like diced up mush inside & you have to send a search party out to find the ingredients lol. I can honestly say that if you give the real pie company a whirl you will be surprised to find massive chunks of beef brisket or pure white chicken breast & no matter if it's mushroom or leeks within the pie also you definitely see them in abundance to. I know they're on the pricier side but not much more than you paid for the M&S ones that looked a bit of a let down to be honest. Ok Gareth I'll shut me gob now about pies lol. Have a lovely Sunday & keep doing what you're doing. All the best & please don't apologise about not being able to answer everyone's comment, I'm sure we can all see that you try your very best to. You're in the minority of youtubers that do heart a comment never mind taking the time to leave a nice reply. Have a good one.
Eh up Gazza hows tha doin. Work has got so busy lately. They never mentioned when I get to work I had to stay busy lol. Great video. Hope your having a cracking weekend. Taj
Nice Video again BFG. However how can M&S say the Pie is new as they have always made Chick and Mush Pies ? it seems like they dont want to use the term 'New Improved recipe' as this is an acknowledgement that the previous version was not as good as the latest version !!!
I wouldn't be surprised if they count the box in the nutritional info, that would reduce the fat content and increase the fibre, lol. The letter e next to the 200g means estimated weight I think.
The weight should be of the product not including the packaging. I make my own pies and they are always full to the top no underfilling of my pies be they steak, chicken or mince.
Just been into ALDI this morning to pick up my usual loaf of HONEY SOAKED BLOOMER and its up AGAIN. Now £1.29, last week it was £1.25 and last year it was 99p. Supermarkets are all at it, sticking a few pence here and there and they think shoppers are not noticing it. Even my ASDA SHREDLESS MARMALADE up from 55p last year and now at 90p. Robbing bar stewards. All the supermarkets are at the ham thinking they have your welfare at heart. Load of tosh.
Bit of a cheat that isn't it. Yes, 200g but including the box and foil. Silly me, thinking it was just the pie🤣 Nevertheless, the pie is still yummy. Cheers.
My thoughts are WTH!! A pie in a bun?? Gareth that is one of the craziest things I have seen, I mean I assume it tasted good, maybe it's a case of "you've never lived until you try it", I will have to give it a whirl!
Thank the kids for the new fridge drawings, you ll have to get them to change them once a week, all adds to the channel!!!! Loved the hot chocolate/beer one!!! Agree actually, pies need more filling than pastry!!!! Especially when we are all trying to lose weight.
I agree.I went to M & S food hall in Doncaster a week ago and walked out empty handed first time ever. I object to paying their now exorbitant prices AND smaller portions. I normally spend quite a bit when I go albeit not on a very regular basis due to their higher prices but nicer quality. Until now! Shame I doubt Ill be going again as I expect with many others. Youre proving my point in the two M & S pies/pudding. Thanks for your input and good down to earth honest reviews.
I think a lot of businesses (not just M&S) are being greedy and increasing their profits under the disguise of the cost of living crisis. If more ppl were like you and refused to buy overpriced goods then I’m sure prices would fall.
If you want a decent pie make your own, buy puff pastry or make your own shortcrust, add your filling of choice. Bigger and better! Love the pictures, especially the one of you, very talented girls!
Following Gareth’s channel has turned me further and further away from processed foods, it’s fairly simple and far more satisfying to make your own. My ‘go to’ RUclips channels for pies are John Kirkwood and Mr. Paul’s Pantry.
@@Canalcoholic Me too, Mr Paul used to be a baker so he knows his stuff. Can make anything!
Sounds great!
Absolutely 👍
Plus, if you make your own, the possibilities are endless.
I've made pies out of all sorts.......
curries, roast dinner, full English breakfast, fish n chips & mushy peas, chilli con carne & pizza/burger ingredients, to name but a few 😏
Had a few fails (pasta dishes just do NOT work in a pie btw 🤢) but you can't make omelettes without breaking a few eggs 😉🤣🤣
Depends on one’s cooking talents 😃
Im with you on "where is the filling" its happened with various brands over time, i want a pie with no fresh air layer at the top but it seems hard at times even though a box shows a different story.
I agree entirely. There should be a small gap that allows a layer of hor air to form which cooks the underside of the pastry dry, but anything less than about three quarters full is just taking liberties.
Another great review. Fully agree with your opinion. 200g should be pie weight and filling should be mean close to full. £3 for a pie that's half air just doesn't sit well even if it does taste great.
Cheers pal
It is scandalous how Marketing companies get away with these things. Weight after cooking 180g and the pie contains 19% Chicken, So 36g ? Cracking honest review Gareth as always, Rip Off Britain is just getting worse, The top Ten percenters get richer....
Cheers Chris
@@davidsworld5837 I was going to say the same - if you want a chicken pie with 40% or 50% chicken, then make it yourself. The shop pies always seem to be 18ish to 23ish percent meat.
The e next to the weight means it has a tolerance. Different items/weight bands have different tolerances. It's unlikely to be exactly the weight stated, but look up the bands for different food types.
Yes, the weight fiddling, it's niggling, isn't it. We all know things and food quantity weights per item are a lot, lot less than what they were. Also, the producers are now using much cheaper ingredients and you can tell. The Pie looked glorious after being cooked and cut open. Never had a Pie in a Bun, will have to give it a Go ! We call them Cobs in Leicester ! 😂 Top review, Gareth. Thank you 👍👏😉
Cheers Mark
Agree the pie filling looked like slug jelly didnt look nice .
Rip off Britain
I find M&S ready meals very bland and overpriced. And let's face it Fully Recyclable means landfill ready 😂
You are right there overpriced and underwhelming
Same! I have always thought they are very bland.
Interested to hear this, as social media has been talking about M&S as if everything they touch turns to gold over the past few months. From ‘their veg lasts ten times longer than anyone else’ to ‘it’s actually just as cheap as the other supermarkets’. People are crazy. They charge FIVE POUNDS for an individual curry, eg madras - not some extra special range, just a bog standard curry. And you know what, it’s no nicer than one from Aldi, Asda or anywhere else. It’s amazing what some nice packaging and a nice shopping environment can do to your mindset
Disgraceful really if a pie says 200g it should be before you place in oven the robbers
😂😂😂😂😂
Agree with you so much Gaz about being short changed by suppliers. You should get what you pay for.. especially during hard times for many. Notice how the weight discrepancies are always under and never over
I don't care for pies out of boxes and if I want one, I make it from scratch. But well done for checking this out and especially the weight, as manufacturers and supermarkets need calling out on what exactly they mean when they state a product weight. Yes, and where was the chicken, where were the mushrooms? This pie is no more than a comfort snack. I can buy an entire cooked chicken for £4.50! Never mind if it's your opinion. You are so right. Companies are making themselves rich on our lazy habits. But come on Gareth, it's really naughty eating yours in a muffin! 😄
Cheers Miss, all the best.
I just buy pukka pies generally. They're always on offer and are decent. £1.25 I'm paying at the moment. Always plenty of filling. Holland's are also a decent option when on offer. 75p at Tesco ATM I think I've just paid.
Good idea mate.
Here in London pukka pies are £2 sometimes reduced to £1.75. Unfortunately we can’t get Holland pies here 🙄
@@monicaduncan7109 Holland's pies are made about 3 mile from my house. They're not the best, but they're decent. They get extra points for being shortcrust pastry and not puff. You can usually get them for £1 or less too.
Got as far as the cutting open and I have to say I would be REALLY disappointed with what's inside for £3. Come on M&S, your standards have hit an all time low
Yes not good is it really.
It's a £1.50 pie tops.
I might give it a miss with that price. Chicken and Mushroom puka pies are my fave. M&S up your game. Keep them reviews coming. Love them.
It's not just any empty space inside that pie, it's an m&s empty space inside that pie ;)
@Jasmine Beckett your taste buds must be broke then 🤣. M&S food is way better than Tesco, even m&s bread is better
The chicken bones are boiled down to make the stock. The label says chicken stock follwed by brackets and everything inside the brackets is what is used to make the stock. Hope that helps and another great review 👍🏻
Thanks for the info!
You're spot on, Gareth. Everything seems to be shrinking in size and getting more expensive! Excellent review nonetheless- love to see you supporting British suppliers.
Cheers
Love the art work especially the one of you Gareth, I think the long arms is because your always cooking lol. They should call that mushroom pie with a bit of chicken,.😮
Haha cheers Iris yes I love the pictures. My girls are excited that you all see them.
@@BaldFoodieGuy yeah, tell the girls the pictures are the first thing I look at
The chicken bones are included in the brackets for the chicken stock, so they will be ground or boiled and mushed as part of the stock, no harm 😊
I agree with you that it's short on filling, I'll give them a miss. Thanks for another honest review 💜💜💜
Cheers Barbie xx
Should be called Mushroom Pie (with a bit of chicken) 🤦♂️. At least plenty of healthy vegetables. Went to Aldi today & brought one of their large frozen Chicken pies. Looking forward to eating that this week as the steak version is 😋😋😋. Top review 🤩
ive been having pie cobs for years when we go to local outdoor market, same with cheeseburger and fried egg cob with some lightly fried onions... a bit of brown sauce goes a long way...
M&S - I think not. Plenty of supermarkets/shops to purchase goods from. This one was not value for money. However, thank you for reviewing the pie and saving us from an exepense. xx
Great point
*Outstanding review* and I do share your opinion and agree. Love how you break everything down for us and of course we get to see firsthand before buying much of the time too. Awesome.
This is why it’s hard work doing what your doing.takes a lot more time than most of us realise. Understand. The channel is getting more successful you see… well done 🔥🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I appreciate that!
@@BaldFoodieGuy 👍👍🥰
Try your own taste test and comparison. I did my own tomato soup a fortnight ago. No filming, just written notes, few photos. It does take a lot of work and effort.
Gareth works a lot harder than we think. But he seems to enjoy it and not looking too bad.
@@rhianwenj7597 I have done my own tomato soup and it’s delicious.lot of extra effort but you can’t beat fresh homemade food x
Great review as always and spot on about the filling amount and especially the lack of chicken then the price Gaz you are spot on with your reviews keep up with the excellent reviews 👏👏👍👍
Thanks 👍
I had one of these just last week and I completely agree with you Garerh when it comes to having not much filling..it was really delicious but why so little?...for three pounds you expect so much more.
As always great video..keep them coming mate.
Thanks for sharing
Yeah we are being ripped off constantly from every angle possible and always have been but lately it's like they are just pushing us to see how much we can take, also that sticker on the front says 'supporting British suppliers' unfortunately that isn't the farmers, these are just mere supply companies. If you want to support local farmers and businesses then buy from your local Butchers and Veg shops. I started this last year and the savings are UNREAL !!! Honestly. As a single guy I spend an average of around £100 per Month at the Butchers, they do various packs and mix and match things on their website and that lasst me more than the month and the Veg shop is usually a tenner a week. So my food for the month went from around £450 per month to around £200 ish by the time I buy condiments, bread, coffee etc from Aldi's, Honestly people look into it, freeze your meat and take out what you need in the morning (set a meat alarm on your phone) as I often forget in the morn 😵💫
Loving the pics your grandchildren drew, I love it when mine do it ❤️
Thanks so much
I'm going to buy some scales, then, when a product is underweight, i will return to store...Just getting fed up being ripped off. Nice vid, keep em coming.
Cheers pal, will do.
Totally agree with all you say here. Very over priced for an individual pie and considering they are mass manufactured. Any bakers shop sells hot baked pies and also has many overheads and can't be buying in as much bulk quantity. The filling is also no more than a couple of spoonfulls. Poor really. Great review. Great mark up on these i think
Cheers Helen
I used to buy the odd item in M+S but not for a long time! Aldi does the job just as well - although Aldi is no stranger to shrinkflation German ham is now half the content you used to get! [Italian holding up well!]
Absolutely Aldi or Lidel every time.
Loved this video most so far,had me laughing my head off your face when you kept finding mushrooms ha ha . Thanks for being responding to your subscribers comments as means a lot as shows you care. As ever perfect art work by your darling angels.Hope to see you around London if you visit
Glad you enjoyed it
The "e" after the 200g means estimated, so the weight isn't wrong. You might get one next week and it weighs 210g.
Nice set of scales and a lovely gift for you. If I make a chicken pie I put veg and gravy in as I don't like mushrooms. The pie was nice to look at for the pastry alone but the filling out me off. Another excellent video. Thanks Gareth
Great idea!
I don't mind if you miss me out Gaz... I'm used to it from the mrs! The weigh in is really coming into it's own now isn't it. You've always weighed the food and now showing what we're really losing. Cheers mate
Cheers Hoppers.
I would pay a pound more for extra filling because the M & S taste and quality is always good.
Yes tasted good. 😋
@@BaldFoodieGuy Have you got a PO Box number as I can’t see it on your website ?
Love the reviews Gareth and great channel and content..personally, I think it’s just best to make your own…pretty easy and cheap to make and tons of vids on how…John Kirkwoods channel is a good place to start.
Thanks 👍
At 3quid a pie if you eat a lot of pies I would invest in a pie maker. Buy puff pastry and portion it keep in freezer. Then when you have a chicken a joint what's left make a pie. Bit fiddly but it will be filled great show Gareth
Cheers Di
Honestly Gaz, you don’t have to apologise for not replying to every comment when you have so many followers. Most of the the content creators on RUclips don’t! It’s near on impossible to do so as your channel is constantly growing. I’m sure the vast majority of your followers on here understand that and don’t expect a reply to every comment they add, I certainly don’t. If you reply to everyone, you’ll miss the one’s that you really need to answer! ❤️
No worries
Spot on.
@@Darren-ny5du Me too. But even he only acknowledges, he rarely replies.
oh god no one should expect a reply from the creator , most of us make a comment for others to see and reply to share our own experiences and ideas
@@Darren-ny5du Yes, I’m sure your right. Content producers with a large number of subscribers (friends) can’t be expected to reply to every comment.
Used to go to M&S as a treat because their stuff was all awesome, standards have slipped a bit amount wise but the taste is still there. Where do they keep costs down though ? A bit less filling ? Less flavour ? Less staff ? Less stores ?
Never worth 3 quid. More mushrooms.. because they are cheap! M&S should be ashamed. If they can't get the weight right, what's the chances of the rest of the information on the packet being right?
Shocking for this company. Vote with your feet folks. Brilliant and honest review 👍
Just a little trick to save you putting food directly on to your scales. Put a small plate or bowl onto your scales and the zero it. It will the give you the exact weight of what is on the plate. Loved CUP EYES the snowman.😀
Cheers Willy
A pie cob (roll, barm cake, bun etc) is a tremendous move. Used to eat them back in the late 70's early 80's at senior school
Again, the pastry looks okay mate, but I agree with you: the pie looks mostly pastry and mushrooms - both being really cheap ingredients for the manufacturer to use. The more expensive bit - the chicken - is obvious by it's absence. As nice as the pie may taste, paying £3 for a mushroom & pastry pie (the ingredients of which probably cost about 5p in the bulk numbers they're produced) makes it all a bit of a rip off to me.
We're paying more and more for this sort of stuff at the moment, but getting less and less for our money at the same time. Good review again though - thanks. Regards, Dave
Hi Gareth I agree with you that things are getting smaller and more expensive. We might need a magnifying glass to see items and a bank loan soon. Lol. 😆
Haha yes, need one of those lol
I find that ALL pies brought from the shops are badly lacking with filling !! I just make my own now Gareth you know what’s in em 👍
Good stuff
Hi, you were right about the weight. Net weight is the weight of the product, not the packaging. It was short measure.
Great review again Gareth 👍👍. When you first took the pie from the box? I thought it was a nice size and it was going to be at least 9 1/2 out of 10. The lack of filling, especially chicken, made it between 1 and 5 in my opinion. It certainly was not worth £3 of anyones money. It's not like chicken costs a fortune, even with today's price hikes being what they are. 🥴🥴. When I occasionally have a pie, either chicken or steak, I get the Lidl or Aldi family pie which will last me two days at least. The cost is well under £3, so good value as well. Keep up the good work and keep the reviews rolling in.
Cheers Gerry
The 'e' sign next to the weight means its an average weight because there is no way to ensure every individual pie is exactly 200g. However, I will admit that your pie is right at the limits of what's reasonable, really 10g should be enough imho.
You've been done Gareth. Mushrooms are a lot cheaper than chicken. I won't be buying them for three quid. On another matter Imo you shouldn't answer every comment, just know we appreciate you doing g this.
Yes not good is it.
Gr8 vid as always m8, i agree with the shrink flation comment ..i,m from oldham, try a hollands meat & potato pie in an oven bottom muffin with brown sauce they're lovely...lol
Sounds great!
M&S food always tastes nice but they have always been skingy on the fillings. Three seems a lot for a pie & I thought Greggs was getting expensive lol. Great video as usual but pie in a bun/muffin! I haven't seen that since my old army days.
we're having lancashire hot pot today...home made , proper home cooking .great post as usual G thanks !!
Hope you enjoy
A bit like a Wigan Kebab but you get more for your money in local Pie Shops rather than the chains
Definitely
Thank you for another brilliant video. M&S food is very tasty,but for the price of there food is very expensive. They should put more chicken in there pies. I always love your videos. 😊😊😊
You're welcome
Ohhh I do miss good Cumbrian food. Originally from the North Lakes but live in London now. When I visit home I always go to Cranston’s butchers for their unique Cumberland sausage. Never found one as good. Also fill up my ice box with a bit to bring back down. My London born girlfriend agrees it’s the nicest she’s ever had, and cockney girls are brutally honest.
Sounds great!
I Don’t know, for 3 quid that looked decent to me. I’d happily pay that
Sadly, this shrinkflation has been going on for years, and M&S are by no means alone, nor the worst. Pie, pastie, sausage roll and "savoury bake" fillings are getting smaller, less meaty and the pastry is getting thicker. I've also noticed that supermarket Scotch Eggs have smaller eggs rattling around inside their sausage-meat casings, and cheese pasties have less cheese and are padded out with cheaper ingredients like mashed potato and onion. Rip-off Britain, indeed.
Only pies I buy now are from local organic butchers crammed full and tasty
Yes, Gareth, you are allowed your opinion. Never let anyone stop you from saying what you think. We value your opinion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. Keeep up the good work. It's great that you're continuing to tell it like it is ❤
I appreciate that!
183 grams that is an insult Gaz. Why can’t we get the full weight. Still such an incredible video, that’s just the best
I would be contacting M & S to ask them if their pie weight is supposed to include the box, and send them your video as evidence, as I am sure the weight should be of just the pie, not the packaging. Trading Standards might also be interested in this.
Cheers Rea
Cumbria kebab 🤣🤣, used to love a sausage roll buttie when I was getting home from the pub when I was 16/17 lol
Brilliant review as always not had a pie in a butty for years I fancy one now
Net weight should be just the contents of the package( the product ,in this case the pie alone)... gross weight would be the total weight inc packaging .
Cheers for the information
The corporations are making record profits. An economist was recently asked if the businesses have to keep raising prices to stay in business. The answer was NO. They will keep raising prices until the consumer says enough is enough and stops or cuts down on consuming their products.
To me for price and taste are Pukka pies. In Sainsburys this week they had individual Chicken & Mushroom pies for £1.50. And they were full to the brim inside with more gravy than m&s.
I read recently that the e at the side of the weight means estimated. So the pie you just reviewed was 200g e. It must be a bit if a getout for them. Thankyou for all of your honest and entertaining reviews!
You're welcome 😊
For 200g the Tolerable Negative Error is 4.5% I.e 9g, so the pie should weigh at least 191g to meet the regs. 🤬
When i used to work for a baker many a moon ago, weights and measures would fine for a loaf being under weight , The should not be allowed to get away with it.
I love your honest reviews, they sell you a well know name product that as you can see isn't good, and we shouldn't buy, making your own would be cheaper and tastier, well done for showing us👍
Thank you!
Ingredients - chicken bones.
1) Is this covering themselves in case a bone gets stuck in ones throat?
2) I'm getting suspicious about companies "padding out ingredients". So are bones being
ground up to pad out the filling now. It's not a ridiculous idea as we are being told that
bugs will be ground up and added to our food.
3) Under weight - People weighing food contents? - Nah, whose gonna do that? The bald
Foodie Guy will - Hurrah.
4) Only 2/3 full.
5) £3 for that - forget it.
Hi Gareth, if you’re in Aldi, see if they have the Kilmarnock pie in the shops in your area , we have them here in Scotland, they’re delicious so are Bells steak and gravy pies, come up and see us sometime and do a review, cheers mate 👍🏴
Thanks for the tip!
Good review, Gaz.
I'm hearing more and more about seed oils not being good for us as well as palm oil.
Having to read every ingredient before buying stuff is tiresome and time-consuming.
Thanks for sharing
Things like mushroom which is supplied dried will be listed as the dried weight. But when water is added they then become a main ingredient. Just a way of manipulating the ingredients list.
E means average over the production run they are are allowed to do so under T1 rules thats legal under T2 limits it cant be sold
Cheers Mike great information 👍
Unfortunately we are now living in rip off Britain. Food cost is ridiculous and doesn’t represent value for money across the board. Don’t think I’ve ever had a decent pie from a supermarket. Best to support your local butcher for pies
Yes can't beat your butchers
As Catherine Tates “Nan” would say regarding the weight “ what a f$%€ing liberty….!” 😂
Haha
Hi Gavin, Trading Standards would probably take an interest in the weight difference between stated weight and actual weight, prior to cooking.
Yes. They would say it was correct according to the weights and measures act. Look up what the e symbol means next to weights on food.
Hi Gareth I see you took my comment on board & put that pie in between a nice buttered roll & chowed down? Lol. Best way to have a pie if it's lacking in filling but just tastes ok in my opinion. I know I spoke about trying the real pie company in my last comment to you. One thing I will say is that they are a family business, started off life as a butchers shop that made a variety of pies weekly, which were always on hot demand from their local customers & sold out everytime. When the owners decided to retire/pass the business down that's when the family decided to keep to the pie selling side of the business through it's popularity & it really took off. I know by the sounds of it you must love a good pie, the M&S ones looked like diced up mush inside & you have to send a search party out to find the ingredients lol. I can honestly say that if you give the real pie company a whirl you will be surprised to find massive chunks of beef brisket or pure white chicken breast & no matter if it's mushroom or leeks within the pie also you definitely see them in abundance to. I know they're on the pricier side but not much more than you paid for the M&S ones that looked a bit of a let down to be honest. Ok Gareth I'll shut me gob now about pies lol. Have a lovely Sunday & keep doing what you're doing. All the best & please don't apologise about not being able to answer everyone's comment, I'm sure we can all see that you try your very best to. You're in the minority of youtubers that do heart a comment never mind taking the time to leave a nice reply. Have a good one.
You can never get fed up with pies! 👍
Never lol
Mmmm, looks more like a Wigan kebab I had 55yrs ago✌️🏴
Gareth, the chicken to mushroom ratio looked fine to me. But, each to their own. Good video matey.
I thought M&S were actually selling it a la Wigan Kebab, complete with muffin. I was going to to wind the Mrs up as I love a pie between bread.
You are so right everything is getting smaller but still the cost goes up, great video
Yes! Thank you!
Eh up Gazza hows tha doin. Work has got so busy lately. They never mentioned when I get to work I had to stay busy lol. Great video. Hope your having a cracking weekend. Taj
Cheers pal. Hope you're well.
Nice Video again BFG.
However how can M&S say the Pie is new as they have always made Chick and Mush Pies ? it seems like they dont want to use the term 'New Improved recipe' as this is an acknowledgement that the previous version was not as good as the latest version !!!
Cheers pal
Agree with you. I think a rip off! I do not like the addition of Chicken Bones. I would not give them to my dog. x
I think you would enjoy some "Chicken of the woods".
I wouldn't be surprised if they count the box in the nutritional info, that would reduce the fat content and increase the fibre, lol. The letter e next to the 200g means estimated weight I think.
I've been told that if a product has an e for estimated, it can be up to 40 grams short.
This is peak hangover viewing lol
I’m from Wigan, the home of pies. Pie in a bun is great, and a great hangover meal too. Soon as I see a pie in puff pastry I’m not sure tbh
Yummmmmy pie review love a chicken and mushroom not bad price
As you said , not enough filling for the price xx
The weight should be of the product not including the packaging. I make my own pies and they are always full to the top no underfilling of my pies be they steak, chicken or mince.
Cheers pal. Can't beat homecooking
Just been into ALDI this morning to pick up my usual loaf of HONEY SOAKED BLOOMER and its up AGAIN. Now £1.29, last week it was £1.25 and last year it was 99p. Supermarkets are all at it, sticking a few pence here and there and they think shoppers are not noticing it.
Even my ASDA SHREDLESS MARMALADE up from 55p last year and now at 90p. Robbing bar stewards. All the supermarkets are at the ham thinking they have your welfare at heart. Load of tosh.
So good
Bit of a cheat that isn't it. Yes, 200g but including the box and foil. Silly me, thinking it was just the pie🤣 Nevertheless, the pie is still yummy. Cheers.
Mo Battam, a butcher in Oswestry does the best pies by a long way.
My thoughts are WTH!! A pie in a bun?? Gareth that is one of the craziest things I have seen, I mean I assume it tasted good, maybe it's a case of "you've never lived until you try it", I will have to give it a whirl!
It looked a bit empty that Gaz. I was expecting some nice sauce oozing out 😂
It looked ok but I won’t be buying one.
Yes Dan very dissatisfied.
Everything seems to be smaller. Same tins but less or waterier filling. Less taste as well
Stick to the old faithful's. Hollands 4 pies for £4 of 3 lots for £10 That's 12 pies for a tenner at Iceland.. Beats 3 quid per pie any day.
Thank the kids for the new fridge drawings, you ll have to get them to change them once a week, all adds to the channel!!!! Loved the hot chocolate/beer one!!! Agree actually, pies need more filling than pastry!!!! Especially when we are all trying to lose weight.
Good idea!!
👍👍 gives you a more interesting backdrop
And it involves the kids without them bein on screen