I feel for you. Great reaction. Why didn't Rhaenys escape? She couldn't. She was here on the Queen's orders and was the only chance for the little castle. It would have been fatal if she had simply run away and all the other allies would then know that Rhaenyra's dragonriders would rather save their own skins than fight the war they had started. But be proud of Rhaenys and Meleys. Meleys has decimated the army of Criston and she has seriously wounded Vhagar. Her death was not in vain.
17:30 If Rhaenyra cared about that prophecy like she should, then she wouldn’t withhold that from the Greens. So if she dies and her sons die, what? She’s cool with that prophecy being lost and dooming the realm? It isn’t the duty of her line.. that doesn’t matter it’s from the line of Aegon the conquerer himself. All under the name Targaryen but she doesn’t want to share this information which is selfish. Jaherys the conciliator knew that.. which is why he called for a vote to see who would succeed him because it didn’t matter who sat the throne only that the realm was United and prepared and the prophecy was passed down. Which is exactly what Viserys should have done, naming Rhaneyra was only going to cause a civil war (Which his predecessor wanted to avoid and why Rhaneys wasn’t given the crown) Viserys was selfish in naming Rhaenyra because he wanted to throne to pass down his line and Rhaenyra shares that same selfishness. It shouldn’t matter who’s on the throne only that whoever that is unites the realm. She plunged the realm into war, she made sure the prophecy was lost by the time of the original Game of Thrones and a lot of people died. Rhaneyra and Viserys are Pure selfishness and stupidity. Neither should have been given the throne. They doomed the realm.
Viserys wasn’t selfish in wanting the throne to pass down his line. His son Aegon is his line too. He believed that it was through Rhaenyra this prophecy would be fulfilled because he saw that she would make the best leader. There would have never been a civil war had the greens not plotted against Rhaenyra. Aegon didn’t want the crown and was perfectly content to let Rhaenyra have it. If the greens and blacks stayed united then Rhaenyra could have ruled rather peacefully because every dragon in the realm would have been on her side. There’s no way others would have risen up against her, and if they had it would have been stopped rather quickly. I agree that it was selfishness that tore the realm apart. But it was the selfishness of men. Misogyny doomed the realm.
@@ambybambiboo Your misandry is palpable, you just supporting her to blindly just because she is a woman and you are a woman. There is a reason in human history why males are prioritized for the throne.
If a male employer uses his position and authority to seduce a chaste female employee and she's bitter about it twenty years later, would you hate her as much as you do Cole? I think not. Cole's a victim. Rhaenyra's victim, and I'm here for his chaos.
He’s not a victim. He begged her to run away with him then got his feelings hurt when she said no. If he actually cared about his oath like he claimed, he wouldn’t have been banging Alicent weeks after her husband died.
@@ambybambibooHe cared back then. His vows were already broken by the time Alicent took him under his wing. I don't think he feels he has much to lose at this point by doing it. Keep in mind, breaking your Kingsguard vows is something punishable by torture, castration, banishment to the wall or death. It's not like only his feelings got hurt. He felt like eloping with her and running off to Essos would redeem him in a small way. She refused and that's why he's so bitter about it.
@krissuyx Let's also not forget Rhaenyra is responsible for his appointment to the kingsguard. She is a princess, and has power over him. If Criston isn't a victim of his superior taking advantage, then every woman who's ever been taken advantage of by a male superior is not a victim either. Those actresses Harvey Weinstein took advantage of aren't victims. Monica Lewinsky isn't a victim of Bill Clinton. Either everyone is a victim, or no one is. As to him sleeping with Alicent, I agree with your point, it's moot because when Rhaenyra rejected his marriage proposal, she destroyed any possibility of him regaining his honor, so what's another sexual partner in that case? And lastly, victims of assault sometimes express it throughout hypersexuality/lack of sexual discretion. Cole is the textbook definition of a sexual assault victim. But hey, all people see is a bitter man.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULD’VE Been. Also saw a tweet yesterday, even if not what was intended, makes it a little easier to take. They said that as Rhaenys and Meleys turned back to fight, the little dip they take in the water was them saying goodbye to Corlys and her granddaughters.
rhaeneys attacked in the hopes of injuring vagar in hopes another black dragon can finish her off. (Meleys is one of the oldest and strongest dragons) or kill her or maybe kill aemond so vhagar would be riderless and out of the picture, she is more experienced at the end of the day Meleys was too injured to have made it very far & Rhaenys would have never abandoned Meleys even for the sake of her own safety. That last look they gave before turning back to fight Vhaegar again was a mutual acknowledgement they were going down together. Makes that whole moment that much more heartbreaking. Also abandoning their Ally wouldn't leave a good message about rhaneyras claim
She is so badass and cruel in the books… In the show all she does is crying about the stolen throne… She is supposed to be furious, about Aemond killing his son, like wtf, and she goes “undercover” and tries to make peace with Alicent?!!! Like what?!
@@mauro5831 I disagree that she was "badass" in the book, but she was definitely cruel and more enjoyable for sure. I knew they would never portray a wm like that on screen in current day, though. So instead they just made her a total idiot. 😆
Fr I can't stand the way they try to frame Rhaenyra's advisors as a bunch of incompetent men that are hungry for power and violence, with Rhaenyra and Velaryons being the only reasonable ones in that council. As far as I'm concerned, what the men at the council advised their queen in the show were not unreasonable when you're part of side in a civil war and have already blockaded your enemy's capitol of by sea...
Aegon the best character so far of season 2, amazing performance also r
The actor is doing a great job.
Well at least my favorite character the great Christian Cole survived !
Hush.
Criston
I feel for you. Great reaction.
Why didn't Rhaenys escape? She couldn't. She was here on the Queen's orders and was the only chance for the little castle. It would have been fatal if she had simply run away and all the other allies would then know that Rhaenyra's dragonriders would rather save their own skins than fight the war they had started.
But be proud of Rhaenys and Meleys. Meleys has decimated the army of Criston and she has seriously wounded Vhagar. Her death was not in vain.
I get it. And I’m glad she went out like a boss. It just breaks my heart.
Also, she was winning. She crashed Vhagar into the ground. She went back to finish the job.
@@ambybambiboo maybe she was mad mad upset over Corlys infidelity
17:30
If Rhaenyra cared about that prophecy like she should, then she wouldn’t withhold that from the Greens. So if she dies and her sons die, what? She’s cool with that prophecy being lost and dooming the realm? It isn’t the duty of her line.. that doesn’t matter it’s from the line of Aegon the conquerer himself. All under the name Targaryen but she doesn’t want to share this information which is selfish.
Jaherys the conciliator knew that.. which is why he called for a vote to see who would succeed him because it didn’t matter who sat the throne only that the realm was United and prepared and the prophecy was passed down.
Which is exactly what Viserys should have done, naming Rhaneyra was only going to cause a civil war (Which his predecessor wanted to avoid and why Rhaneys wasn’t given the crown) Viserys was selfish in naming Rhaenyra because he wanted to throne to pass down his line and Rhaenyra shares that same selfishness. It shouldn’t matter who’s on the throne only that whoever that is unites the realm. She plunged the realm into war, she made sure the prophecy was lost by the time of the original Game of Thrones and a lot of people died.
Rhaneyra and Viserys are Pure selfishness and stupidity. Neither should have been given the throne. They doomed the realm.
Viserys wasn’t selfish in wanting the throne to pass down his line. His son Aegon is his line too. He believed that it was through Rhaenyra this prophecy would be fulfilled because he saw that she would make the best leader.
There would have never been a civil war had the greens not plotted against Rhaenyra. Aegon didn’t want the crown and was perfectly content to let Rhaenyra have it. If the greens and blacks stayed united then Rhaenyra could have ruled rather peacefully because every dragon in the realm would have been on her side. There’s no way others would have risen up against her, and if they had it would have been stopped rather quickly.
I agree that it was selfishness that tore the realm apart. But it was the selfishness of men. Misogyny doomed the realm.
@@ambybambiboo
Your misandry is palpable, you just supporting her to blindly just because she is a woman and you are a woman.
There is a reason in human history why males are prioritized for the throne.
Great reaction. I was so heartbroken by this episode. See you on the next one.
If a male employer uses his position and authority to seduce a chaste female employee and she's bitter about it twenty years later, would you hate her as much as you do Cole? I think not. Cole's a victim. Rhaenyra's victim, and I'm here for his chaos.
He’s not a victim. He begged her to run away with him then got his feelings hurt when she said no. If he actually cared about his oath like he claimed, he wouldn’t have been banging Alicent weeks after her husband died.
@ambybambiboo you literally addressed nothing I said.
@@ambybambibooHe cared back then. His vows were already broken by the time Alicent took him under his wing. I don't think he feels he has much to lose at this point by doing it. Keep in mind, breaking your Kingsguard vows is something punishable by torture, castration, banishment to the wall or death. It's not like only his feelings got hurt.
He felt like eloping with her and running off to Essos would redeem him in a small way. She refused and that's why he's so bitter about it.
@krissuyx Let's also not forget Rhaenyra is responsible for his appointment to the kingsguard. She is a princess, and has power over him.
If Criston isn't a victim of his superior taking advantage, then every woman who's ever been taken advantage of by a male superior is not a victim either. Those actresses Harvey Weinstein took advantage of aren't victims. Monica Lewinsky isn't a victim of Bill Clinton. Either everyone is a victim, or no one is.
As to him sleeping with Alicent, I agree with your point, it's moot because when Rhaenyra rejected his marriage proposal, she destroyed any possibility of him regaining his honor, so what's another sexual partner in that case? And lastly, victims of assault sometimes express it throughout hypersexuality/lack of sexual discretion. Cole is the textbook definition of a sexual assault victim. But hey, all people see is a bitter man.
Alyn is Corlys son and Also the other black guy with long dreads is also Corly sons and his name is Addam
That’s what I thought while editing. Makes sense now.
I find it beautiful to give moments of rapprochement between dragon riders all the same
dig the reaction
I swear Harrenhall looks so creepy, damp and cold
Perfect haunted castle vibes
I skipped to the part towards the end to see your reaction and yep you bawled. I think we all poured a beer out for Rhaenys.
Rest in piss to her. 😂
Rest in pee pee to her. 😂
Rest in Hell to her. 😂
She was a real one.
@@MarcusSinclair2 she was a killer. I'm glad she died.
Common Cole W
Show cole is a clown
In books he is the goat
I'm glad Criston has gotten to be a character these past two episodes.
Yes and he was the little kid from house Blackwood who killed that bracken bully in season 1
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULD’VE Been.
Also saw a tweet yesterday, even if not what was intended, makes it a little easier to take. They said that as Rhaenys and Meleys turned back to fight, the little dip they take in the water was them saying goodbye to Corlys and her granddaughters.
rhaeneys attacked in the hopes of injuring vagar in hopes another black dragon can finish her off. (Meleys is one of the oldest and strongest dragons) or kill her or maybe kill aemond so vhagar would be riderless and out of the picture, she is more experienced at the end of the day Meleys was too injured to have made it very far & Rhaenys would have never abandoned Meleys even for the sake of her own safety. That last look they gave before turning back to fight Vhaegar again was a mutual acknowledgement they were going down together. Makes that whole moment that much more heartbreaking. Also abandoning their Ally wouldn't leave a good message about rhaneyras claim
Idk why the comments don't post 😭
It's crazy that we're gonna see so many dragons die 😭
I’m not ready 😔
Firecracker?
Did you see Robocop?
Rhaenyra's literally the dumbest character in the show.
She is so badass and cruel in the books… In the show all she does is crying about the stolen throne… She is supposed to be furious, about Aemond killing his son, like wtf, and she goes “undercover” and tries to make peace with Alicent?!!! Like what?!
@@mauro5831 I disagree that she was "badass" in the book, but she was definitely cruel and more enjoyable for sure. I knew they would never portray a wm like that on screen in current day, though. So instead they just made her a total idiot. 😆
@@thegoldentake7675 For real… And nah, she was a badass, people were afraid of her, I don’t think anyone is afraid of Rhaenyra in the show 😂
Fr I can't stand the way they try to frame Rhaenyra's advisors as a bunch of incompetent men that are hungry for power and violence, with Rhaenyra and Velaryons being the only reasonable ones in that council. As far as I'm concerned, what the men at the council advised their queen in the show were not unreasonable when you're part of side in a civil war and have already blockaded your enemy's capitol of by sea...
@@pimtooler6370 Total facts…
VEGHAR haw two settings sleep and kill Emond and VEGHAR the best duo ❤