Do you need all the different Iron Bench Plane sizes?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- After years of requests, we are finally touring the plane wall behind me.
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Your just plane crazy. 👍
So I checked the price of those planes.
Than I made short counting of your background.
Than I made short head-made calculation ...
:-)
I always thought the number 4 was the most common, maybe that's just me from looking on eBay. And to all the trolls who slagged James off for having too many planes, get over your jealousy, if it wasn't for people like James, who kindly shows off his hand planes, many of us would neither ever see such planes, or know what they're for.
So true ! myself i like using my 4 and 5 plus my block planes .
I agree, the number 4 is the most common plane, it is also my go to plane in the workshop
This is a phenomenal series. The time you put into preparing your script really shows. They are PACKED with info and sprinkled with your opinions based on your experience. It's a wonderful combination!! Can't wait for the next one.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
Same!
I didn't think I'd be able to wait when you talked about a part 2 to your wood plane video lol, now.i gotta get through until the specialty plane video.
I recently finished restoring a 1938 Stanley 4 and a 4C. After watching your wood body plane video I picked up a 1/2 size Beading plane at a flea market for 20 bucks. When I researched the maker when I got home (can't think of his name at the moment, but I'll go grab it when I get home) and it turns out this plane was made in the early/mid 1800s in Albany NY. I'm amped on getting into this hobby and I appreciate the part your channel played in that.
In my mid 20s and over quarantine I started restoring all the vintage tools I've bought over the years. Then I picked up those two 4s to fix and flip. I ended up grabbing some narex chisels and decided to keep the planes and try my hand at woodworking. It's been a cool journey
Where on Earth would you find tool information this extensive? No where else. Gracias Mr. Hamilton. You definitely and truly “rock.”
I've been woodworking for 58 years, since I was 6 and my tool/die maker grandfather introduced me to the craft. I never fail to learn from these videos. There are so many facets to honing this craft that there is always something to learn from others. I especially appreciate James' low key demeanor and comments as to the actual usefulness he has found from each tool. Thanks for the diversity of topics, your perspectives, and the information you offer. BTW I use mostly a Stanley 1939 corrugated bottom #4 and a Wood River 4 1/2. As you said, sometimes I like the light weight/speed of one, and the heft and performance of the other.
About 2 minutes in and I already know more than I ever thought there was to know about planes. You’re a great teacher and I learn so much from every video. Thank you. 👍
Thank you so much for this series. Not only have I been curious about your collection, but as someone very new to woodworking I'm thirsty for knowledge on hand planes. Of the dozens of videos I have watched on the topic, this is the first that gives me what I feel is a good foundation for learning more. I really like that you categorize different types of planes, then work through the numbers to describe what they do. Keep up the great work, and don't forget the corny puns and dad jokes.
OMG only 67 comments before mine. I am the great grandson of a working carpenter./cabinetmaker from a small Michigan village home builder (summer)/coffin maker/cabinetmaker (winter) from before widespread electrification, who inherited planes (8 & 6 & smaller) and braces and bits and miscellany and knowledge passed to family from his shop/profession. Grew up when an electric drill or saw was amazing. Didn't think much of it, just used the tools on hand and developed a love for the sound and smell of freshly planed wood. Pushing a heavy plane was just part of the job. Trades people were harder people then I guess. They didn't get tired, just older. I learned the how and little of the what and why. Your videos have filled in many of the blanks in my knowledge of what I was blessed to receive from them. Many thanks. Thanks for posting. Endeavor to persevere.
You know that if I was given all those planes they would be sitting in a box somewhere, I’m so glad you have them and are using them while also educating the community. I’m going to figure out how to sharpen the few planes I have and maybe breathe in less dust for it. Thank you for the inspiration.
After doing my own research and, based on cost, I got the dual sided stones of 400/1000 and 3000/8000. They have been serving me well but, when I can afford diamond plates I will get those. I also tried lapping film which I think Katz-M did a vid of and don't like them. Good luck and have fun.
Your plane wall is impressive. And since starting on my journey, I now have 3 number 4s, 2 of them are just for normal use, as saves me sharpening mid project, just pick up another plane, and got an acorn yesterday for converting into a scrub.
I have a restored no 5, and a stanley 50 combination, a stanley 78 rebate. Such lovely tools, and I cant wait to get more.
I also have a thing for spoke shaves currently have 4. I bought a new one, and the grinding to get it usable was horrific, 20 hours. The vintage ones work great with a simple sharpening and then good to use.
I love the feel of planing wood by hand, it's so satisfying.
I'm a healthcare worker but love making furniture & other woodworking. I find half the time I'm trying to finish up charts I end up watching yours & Katz-Moses videos. Love the content & education!
When I did my degree dissertation in 1980 I chose the subject of "the design and development of the woodworking bench plane". If only the internet had been available!
I love my Wood River number 6 which is my go-to rather than my 5 1/2. I don't have a 7 but I've had an 8 for 40 years. Looking forward to the next video
Veritas made a #1 that you can actually grip because the handle extends beyond the back of the plane, the "Veritas Bevel-Up #1 Plane". I actually find it quite pleasant to use, much more comfortable than a block plane style grip
Hello James. Your boundless enthusiasm for your craft is obvious and I thank you again for sharing your knowledge and expertise 🌞
I just found your 2 plane videos. They are great. I spent 22 years in refractories making brick like brick material for steel, cement, and glass furnaces. Like your manner of presentation
I hope your videos, commentary and tools end up in the Smithsonian or other museum setting when your done with them. National treasure.
Feeding the algorithm! Awesome content as always. Listening while I’m straightening out a poorly hand cut half-lap joint.
You could have called this series, "The Plane Truth". Fascinating.
Man, worked in telecom. Old dude now and just started playing with wood projects. I wish you were my neighbor. Lol
Just love your enthusiasm for your craft. 👍
Thanks James. Looking forward to the next.
Thank you for the tutorials. My grandpa was an ol German wood craftsman and I remember as a youngster being in his shop. His "gazillion" of planes sticks out in my mind(the wall behind you brings back memories) some wood and some cast iron. Same with his saws. From the massive steam driven sawmill (ppl after on an old John Deere with steel wheels) in the backyard (acres) to his numerous handsaws to his bow saws. I only wish I knew then what I know now! But, Wish in one hand.
Picked up a Stanley #4 off Ebay. This was very helpful on where to go next.
Love this topic, James, and thanks for making it into a series. I've been making wood-bodied planes on my CNC and really enjoy the look and feel of them compared to the metal-bodied ones. They both provide a lot of beauty and functionality, so you can't go wrong with either type. Take care and looking forward to the next video.
Interesting collection of planes.
I've always wondered about that wall behind you! The video on the wood planes was fantastic. While I knew most of what you shared in this one, it's always a joy to see there's a new video from Stumpy I can watch! Can't wait for you to get to some of those more specialty ones. That 45 is gonna blow some people's minds!
Hello, I stumbled a cross this site. I acquired a number of very old planes well in excess of 120 years old. They smooth as good to day as when they were first forged and made. I look forward to more stories. 🇦🇺👍🍺
I think you just made it even harder to find a good user Stanley 5 1/2 at a reasonable price. Very informative series, Jim. Thank you.
Thank you for the video. While a review would be great of the old wooden hand planes, it would be really great to see a minute or 2 of each old hand plane being used, and the results they produce (just the ones that are still usable). It is amazing how - at one time - this was all that cabinet makers had to make fine furniture. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing with us James, enjoyed your information on planes. Fred.🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
Very, very cool video. Great, honest, opinions of the seemingly minute but very informative, pros and cons of hand planes Love the info on vintage hand planes, and really love this series. Looking forward to the next vid!
These videos are just what I've been looking for.
I appreciate your knowledge and channel ! Thanks
A timely video as I am deliberating whether to get a 4 1/2 as I do like the width of my 5 1/2.
I’m waiting for your take on bevel up planes compared to all the bevel down planes you so well discussed.
very well explained! I really enjoy your way of letting new woodworkers understand why there are so many variants of "the same" tool. and I wish I saw your video when I was just starting. however I think I made the right "blind" choices, not understanding at that time what I was buying (pure luck): I have 2x #4, 1x #5, 1x #7. why 2x #4? stupid cheap bargain effect, I bought it and then never used it.
most of the time I use #7, because it's a breeze to just straighten / flatten the board, much faster than to roll out my industrial 12 inch jointer.
obviously when I need to prepare more than just 1 board, I would go for the power tools.
"The life so short, the craft so long to learn." Gus Stickley
The handles of the #1 & #2 were not meant to be griped like the other planes. If you hold them between the thumb and forefinger with the other fingers wrapped around the body, you can easily use them like a block plane. I use my #2 and sometimes the #3 as heavy weight block planes.
While it is possible to hold them in any way you find comfortable, saying that is how they were "meant" to be gripped is pure speculation. Stanley already had plenty of block plane models in their lineup. They did not develop the #1 to be a less comfortable block plane.
Well done … another amazing video … 👍 … I generally use block plane and occasionally number 4 but the content you prepare is always detailed and fascinating to watch.
Keep up the good work.
Supra
Great discussion James, thank you for sharing it.
I was lucky enough to be given my great grandfathers jack plain and after I restored and sharpened it, it became a huge work horse in my shop partially because I don't have a power jointer or planner
I'm really enjoying this series.
Thanks….waiting for part 3
James Hamilton, docent emeritus of the wood craftsman (PERSON) tool and technique university! Your videos are excellent, and the knowledge we earn by osmosis in the few moments with James is invaluable! THANK YOU!
What a great presentation. Thank you, have a great week
For me, I use a No 3 for all my smoothing and the reason is very simple. I made my bench plane storage under my workbench before I bought a No 4. When I finish my tool cabinet, I will use all the planes more and decide which ones I will go to more natually. So far, I have used No 3, 4-1/2, 6, and 8 regularly.
I must admit I use a no 6 for most jointing jobs followed by the no 4
Question, what is the best way to get the blade parallel with the block body? I rarely use these tools, just a DYI weekend hobby, but I always seem to spend more time aligning the tool than actually planing. Perhaps make a video on how to set one of the up correctly? How to identify the grain pattern? What do for different grain direction for material like molding that has different pieces spliced together. What is the correct or best amount the blade should extend the block? Etc
I've just notice the large wooden plane in the top right of the screen, I got it from my dad but I don't know it history. I also need some tlc but I've been to afraid to work on it. Thanks for these videos, I find them so fascinating.
Twenty years I’ve been making shavings and not until this video did I learn why my jack plane is called a jack plane.
Enjoyed this video stumpy .learned a few things .makes me wish i took notice and learned a lot from my dad
he was a old timer joiner . always wondered why a jack plain was called a jack plain .
all the best from England
Another informational video. Thanks for sharing it!
Thanks for doing the planer videos. Besides curiosity I love knowing the “old way” things were done, especially trim. As for those who criticized you for the number you have, to heck with them. The world is full of jerks.
Informative....very interesting
Very interesting, love the history - looking forward to the next one. Thank you so much.
Great video! You have a great knowledge of hand planes! Thanks for sharing!
Pretty interesting indeed! 😃
Thanks for the video and all the tips, dude!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Another great vid mate....one thing I will always remember about my grandfathers workshop, other than it was really small !,were the amount of wooden planes he had and the different shapes of those wooden planes . He was a ships carpenter and many of the wooden planes he had didn't even have a flat bottom, more like a compass plane but some had a massive diameter of curve. I think when I see your vids, that you have probably got more wooden planes than he had, and that's saying something :) love the series and ty for sharing.
Thanks for dropping some knowledge for me.
I couldn't agree more about having a few planes for different purposes. Once you've
'mastered" sharpening and setup. Although not a huge fan of cambering, I do appreciate having a few jack planes setup with different cut depths. The great abundance of 4's and 5's makes owning a couple of each very affordable. I also agree, my favorite plane to use is the 5 1/2. I have 2, one setup specifically for the shooting board, the other with a super sharp blade for almost finishing. I find the width and length of the 4 perfect for final finish.
I have a question for yourself and anyone who owns a woodriver plane. They come with A2 blades, how durable is this blade? It seems that while A2 would be perfect for the heavier work planes, a O1, with its keener edge is the best choice for a smoother. Thoughts?
And thank you, this is an excellent series, by a natural teacher. Great job!
Yet again, splendid. Thanks.
Another good reason is high/low angle planes
Ordered the 5 1/2 today from your last video. Thanks
I did the same today. Wood River 5-1/2 and the block plane.
That was after I nearly choked seeing the price of a Veritas.
Thank you, I look forward to the next plane video .:)
Thanks a lot James. Are used to seeing your plane wall And comfortably dismiss that I could never have them all so there was no sense collecting any. Now that I see the size of one set of cast-iron planes it looks uncomfortably possible to obtain.
I was just given a #7 plane. I'm going to make it pretty some day soon.
I only own two hand planes, a block plane which was my first one and a number 4. I'm mostly a power tool woodworker but the number 4 is great when you need to essentially cheat joint two boards to get a nice glue up surface. One day I may actually buy the number 7 or 8 but for now, I get by just fine with what I have. Remember people, if it's worth having, then save up for the best one you can get.
Great video as always. I am a power tool guy through and through, but I am finding your plane series interesting and highly informative. My budget is beginning to dislike you, however, as I am finding myself thinking I should own - and use - some of the models you are discussing. Maybe if I avoid really fancy ones and just focus on plain planes..
Thanks for sharing those tips!
Hello Mr. Hamilton! I want to start off by saying I've been following your channel for a very long time. Have I seen every video? No. I do appreciate everyone that I have seen though, especially the ones about forward thinking and safety!!! I really wanted one of those 4/4.5" chainsaw carving things until I saw what they can do in a New York minute. I'm following your current series about hand planes. Here comes my question... Are you going to do a restoration and maintenance video about these devices. I inherited some many years ago and so inherited some issues. Some are rusty and/or missing the cutting blade and other parts. What kind of steel would I use to replace the cutters? How to clean the rust and prevent future infection of oxidation. I was thinking of 01 tool steel but would regular cold roll work? I'm a man on a budget and don't shun advice when I ask for it. Thank you for all of your videos and your insight has made all of us a bit wiser. Safety First! :)
Maybe
New York minute? More like a New York second! I always appreciate James’ safety oriented videos
Thanks!
a plane for every occasion...a fella can never have too many.
Thinking about you in 'Drag Net' with Officer Thursday since Joe Friday had the day off... ( the theme music playing in the background...) Bum ba bum, bum ba bum ba bum .. Officer James here , Friday was here yesterday. Just another plane old day ..
Thank you
Love your videos. Now I want to go buy some hand planes.
Thanks for another informative video...awesome!
I like all of your videos, and this is just one.
in the next video or the just in the future could you show us what the planes on the shelf directly over your tormac sharpener on the right side of the screen are? they look kind of like art pieces to me and am just wondering what they are and what they are used for.
They are Bridge City panes: bridgecitytools.com/collections/planes Here's a video of a project made with them and their manual table saw: ruclips.net/video/2owJuaZk5UE/видео.html
Great information as always.
I have just discovered the real cost of getting into hand planing. You can buy a decent plane, like the Woodriver planes that James recommends, but to get the most use out of it, you need the sharpening tools to go along with it. And the more you get in to it, the more you're going to need to spend on sharpening tools.
It think you could easily spend $500 just to get started properly. I don't say that negatively. It's the reality that should prepare you when you're ready to get started. This video certainly opened my eyes to that reality.
I don't think you got enough planes there. 😲
If you had to choose only one from each category what would you buy? I like the idea of doing stuff by hand but can't afford a full set.
Nice to see good trigger discipline with those dangerous implements. Wouldn't want to suffer a negligent discharge, you might end up planing all sorts of things!
Great info mate🇦🇺🐨
I like the Wood River planes because they're bodies are ductile iron rather than cast iron. They aren't as fragile if you drop one or accidentally (and carelessly) push it off the bench maneuvering a piece of long stock. I tend to think that the classes like "fore," "jack," etc. are kind of meaningless, since you can do all the same tasks with different planes, depending on the length of the stock. Making a small box, all you really need is a block plane.
@@wildough I do have some Veritas pieces, though none of the bench planes. Lie-Neilsens are great, IF you have the money. I do have one of the L-N rabbet block lanes. Once you have been using any good bench plane for a couple of years, it is no longer what you unboxed. You've either put work into it to a point where it is as good as you want, or it has diminished to a state you can maintain. As far as infratstructure goes, my vehicl is a Jeep Wrangler and I'm sure buying that did more for the US economy than three Woodriver bench planes would detract.
The majority of the planes I use are far older than the Lee Valley, Lie-Neilsen, or Woodcraft companies and most are pre-WWI. That said, value for value, Woodriver planes are quite decent.
Great video thank you!
I use a 100+ year old Stanley #4 for almost all my planing. I don't do fine carpentry but I can build you a nice piece of furniture that'll last you 100+ years..
Hi Stumpy, such nice content you share with us all, can you tell us what are your thoughts about infill planes vs modern planes in the likes of Norrris, Spiers, Mathieson old english plane makers or cast irons mitre planes?
Thank you so much or your videos.
Thanks once again for the education. I always love your videos and find them most useful. What I would really like to know is what would be a good starter plane? I have been woodworking for almost 50 years, but have never really used a plane. Mostly because the ones I buy either break, the blade won't stay in position etc.. I have just had bad luck with them. I would like very much to find and go from there before I'm too old to use them.
I made a video about that yesterday. ruclips.net/video/h1f3JrIYkRM/видео.html
An excellent ex-plane-ation.
Now I have a question. I hope you can help! I recently disassembled a Bailey Stanley No 5 I have to clean it uo and flatten the frog, no problem but when I went to put it all back together, for the life of me I have been unable to put the cut of depth adjuster wheel back onto the wheel mounting screw! Can you tell what the thread size of this wheel mounting screw and the threads of the adjuster wheel are? They are roughly around 10-24 but I have not identified the thread size yet. Second, have any tips for getting the adjuster wheel back onto the adjuster screw? I am thinking that once I know the thread size I can just run a drill tap through the adjuster wheel and perhaps lightly, very lightly, file the adjuster wheel first thread to de-burr it though the drill tap treatment may do that, too. I finally solved the problem myself. First I successfully cleaned up and deburred the first couple of threads on the adjuster wheel mounting screw. Second, I figured out that the adjuster wheel has left handed threads so I had to spin the adjuster wheel onto the mounting screw "backwards" ( counter clockwise) and then it smoothly mounted. :)
Do you have a jack rabbet plane? Or, is that in the next video?
Let’s say there’s someone out there that was too lazy, or forgetful, to look up where the phrase “Jack plane” came from. Instead, he just nodded along and tried to look knowingly when someone referred to jack planes, hoping it didn’t really matter much or that it would never come up on a test one day. If such a person existed he’d be glad to have watched this video to fill in that knowledge gap.
Purely hypothetical, right?
Merely an academic consideration.
I'm old to wood working but new to hand planes, I guess as I get older I have more respect for them. Question, how can you tell just by looking at a plane what number/size it is? Thanks John, Spring TX
Most Stanely planes have the size number cast into the body.
And ya got me with that 3rd video lol
Like a movie serial cliffhanger. Will our hero survive? Tune in again next time!
It's all plane sailing, I hope.
"The marketing worked" I'll just look away.
I use my number 6 for hand planing/joining of rough sawn wood, instead of using a scrub. Then switch to a 5-1/2 to clean the 6 marks up. When using power tools, I don't think I've ever used my 6 as a companion. It is a fun plane to use, but only if you enjoy the contentment of hand planing.
Been waiting for this