Crytomanor isn't free and open source, it is open source, but you have to pay a premium to even use it. It has licensing keys which will be asked when you open the apk. You have to pay 10 dollars to even use it. So I would reccomend you edit the misinformation. Is it necessary to sponsor a paid product since all the users who use it needs to pay for it?
@@mrdontmessaround2704 An optional mobile app is the only paid element of Cryptomator. Encrypting and decrypting files on your computer and uploaded to the cloud is free.
@@mrcvry that is absolute bs. You telling me they never noticed money being sent for using their licenses? I don't think so. Btw you can get the apk for free. But you can't use it unless yu have the license.
You shouldn't trust any service anyways with your most sensitive data Your most sensitive data should be stored in a flash or hard drive that's encrypted and stored in a safe place
Excellent content as always! Mega seems too good to be true. Their interface is slick and the storage is super generous. I wonder if I'm missing something.
The most secure option? Get a hard drive, encrypt it and back up your files on it. Nothing leaves your home on the internet so you don't have to worry about how well someone's encryption is implemented, etc.
Use a computer which never never link to internet an hard drive is way to go. I do this when window XP was on market. Use a camera on other phone and buy a GPS.
@@UmitSeyhan75 and that takes a long time but you’d have a backup of your backup. The amount of TB you get these days for $, is super cheap. Just bought a 5 TB HD for $95.
Was originally an honorable mention and we decided to drop it because we weren’t personally a fan of the usability. But very happy it’s working well for you!
@@techlore Yeah, I tried Sync, it has promise, but it's way to slow. Don't like their mobile app either. They don't show previews for images which really sucks.
@D Rawli I found this software called air explorer, it can sync files from my computer to google drive, yandex, mega, a bunch more plus ftp. It also has encrypted syncs as well so I might use google drive to share files and mega or ice drive to backup my own stuff.
Does anyone know if a good alternative to iCloud to backup the iPhone? I’m looking for something that can store my contacts, photos, notes, reminders, etc out of the box.
Nice review, but as someone involved in cryptography I find the term "zero-knowledge" misleading. I'm certain that no provider is truly zero-knowledge simply because all current zero-knowledge solutions are impractical. A real zero-knowledge solution wouldn't allow the provider to learn any metadata such as individual file sizes and access pattern to files.
@@renatosardinhalopes6073 use open source encryption software. Encrypt your files before you upload them. Just like how you would upload files to Google drive, dropbox etc, just encrypt it first before you upload it
@@njpme I guess that would work, but imo these cloud services are still good because you just put the file there just like you would in google drive. This encryption process is another hassle tbh. You put in the file On this cloud service provider and it's already encrypted, Might no be perfect but miles ahead of something like google drive.
@@renatosardinhalopes6073 it's another hassle, but that's what I do with sensitive medical, financial and other personal documents that i have in digital form. I encrypt in with a long randomly generated password, then upload it to google drive and onedrive. The purpose is so that I'm the only one that can read my data. Without encryption, Google or Microsoft could possibly read my data since they have the encryption key. They're the one encrypting ever data on their server.
As much as I'd love to use a zero-knowledge encryption cloud service, I've found that I'm not comfortable managing those keys myself. Zero-knowledge encryption can put your very important data at risk of loss if you aren't confident in your own ability to manage and maintain those keys. I personally use cloud backups as part of my 3-2-1 backup plan with my NAS and an external hard drive as the other 2 pieces. If my house burns down, and I need to recover my files from my cloud provider, I don't have to worry about whether or not I have my keys. For me, the trade-off is worth it because I need those files if something catastrophic happens. Maybe not the exact scenario that this video was addressing, but felt that I should mention it as a possible concern.
For those who is wondering about the Ice Drive cloud. I signed them just after this video, I was in a really emergency need for a cloud. I was using Ice Drive for about 2 months, I just cancelled their services. I do not recommend. For it's price, you think this is a professional and working product, but really still in development mode. To upload something in the cloud is awful, is slow in everyway, makes you want to give up. The videoplayer is slow, half the times doesn't work. Is not possível to see subtitles too. The same applies to read some. You can't use this app as a backup for you Android neither. What's the point of having this app then? Summing up: NOTHING WORKS AS ITS SUPPOSED TO. I hope to have helped somebody with my comment and horrible mistake.
Spider Oak? How about encrypting your sensitive data before upload? I do like cryptomator. I have been experimenting with Cryptomator for a few months now. Trying to add it to my work flow. Any data sensitive data you upload to a cloud drive. You should have some form of encryption on it.
I use spideroak. It is without a doubt my favorite backup utility hands down. I rely on it more than my offline backups as well because it's just so convenient, reliable, and private.
Nextcloud has a few big issues and it definitely shouldn't be number one. If you aren't a highly technical person just forget self hosting it. I'm a full stack web dev and spent way to much time working out the bugs. Second, their phone app sucks! Like really bad. It's slow, UI is just meh, opening a file seems to download it again(?), if you use the auto upload for things like your phone pictures it COPIES them to its own directory thereby DOUBLING the amount of space your pictures will take on your phone. No thanks.
This vid is a bit outdated now that iCloud offers end to end encryption. Granted, it doesn’t do this for email and contacts, but it’s a viable option for some people.
something to keep in mind: *NO* web interface can be secure, because they could serve you a malicious page at any time, which would get your keys, even if they're stored "in your browser"
Don’t buy nordlocker, Really bad experience. Bought nordlocker for cloud storage but it doesn’t work. The application is still in beta but that’s mentioned nowhere when purchasing the service. I’ve spend months with support trying to fix it but it still doesn’t work and I’m done with it. If if they can fix it after all this time, I’ve lost trust that the application can safely store my files. I asked for my money back but they don’t want to refund me, even though they weren’t honest upfront and I tried to fix the situation with them.
If Techlore is on my country: Techlore *making content* : "This company said they won't share your data..." *knock* *knock* "Pizza Delivery!" And he was never seen again...
mega code may be very secure but the proprietary code of apple and microsoft is full of holes that can be exploited didnt the feds get the keys to proton? should we still trust them?
Just change or remove the first character in your file header and save the file. Naturally this will temporary corrupt the file. But that's okay. Then zip the file and change the extension to *.ova. It will throw the copyright bot off, as your files will appear corrupted. Works fine for me.
iCloud has an encrypted option, and is great for iOS/Mac, but it's built into the Apple ecosystem, so while I think it's good, I wouldn't recommend it over options that are well supported across all devices. Being stuck to one brand is never good for privacy as they can turn on you at any moment.
That 1.56€/TB/month is the most disingenuous bullshit I ever remember seeing in online retail! There isn't even a 1 TB purchase plan, and the plan they advertise those cheap terabytes with actually costs 299€ for an entire year with 16 TB of storage. Thanks but no fucking thanks! "Hello Average Joe, can I interest you in this ordinary product right here?" "Sure, it looks just like what I'm looking for! How much?!" "Only 1.56€ with a purchase of sixteen." "SIXTEEN?! Are you fucking mad?! Why the hell would I need 16?! You said one!"
You guys are a bit too normie for my taste, haha. To me Kim Dotcom's history is a big plus and lends much more credibility than Proton. But I still love you of course, great work! :)
@Bon's Scott Both of you are wrong on the details. Protonmail was forced to log and give the *Swiss Government* a *French Activist's* IP address. The French agency that made the demand abused an international system, through Europol, that was intended for extreme situations, such as child trafficking and terrorism, to bypass digital protection laws and catch an activist. No encryption keys were handed over, and Protonmail made a public statement afterwards that, "if you need to protect your identity from a government, only access protonmail through Tor." No company can refuse a demand from law enforcement to log and hand over an individual's IP address. They'd be breaking the law. The only information handed over was 1. date of account creation. 2. ip addresses used to access account. 3. devices used to log in Nothing else was sent, because nothing else could be sent.
@@TonyKelly without encrypt, they are not safe, then why I will pay for cloud drive that is not safe ( they put all safety features in encrypted drive)
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Crytomanor isn't free and open source, it is open source, but you have to pay a premium to even use it. It has licensing keys which will be asked when you open the apk. You have to pay 10 dollars to even use it. So I would reccomend you edit the misinformation. Is it necessary to sponsor a paid product since all the users who use it needs to pay for it?
@@mrdontmessaround2704 An optional mobile app is the only paid element of Cryptomator. Encrypting and decrypting files on your computer and uploaded to the cloud is free.
@@englandcalling9721 Oh ok. So desktop is free and mobile is paid. Dame
@@mrdontmessaround2704
And perhaps they do not know that it now costs something. I got it for free a long time ago.
@@mrcvry that is absolute bs. You telling me they never noticed money being sent for using their licenses? I don't think so. Btw you can get the apk for free. But you can't use it unless yu have the license.
We can’t loose this guy. Truly appreciate the lengths of your work
I would love to see a Nextcloud setup tutorial from you, if it’s not too difficult.
Totally agree!!
This x 1000
You guys are my main guide for choosing and practicing privacy online, thank you!
Bro privacy ke liye sbse acha cloud konsa hai
Also i want to say from the bottom of my heart for your videos, they make it easier to be private online and your community is so helpful
You shouldn't trust any service anyways with your most sensitive data
Your most sensitive data should be stored in a flash or hard drive that's encrypted and stored in a safe place
Hey, Greg Heffley ;D
Excellent content as always!
Mega seems too good to be true. Their interface is slick and the storage is super generous. I wonder if I'm missing something.
The catch is that anyone downloading files you share are limited to 5gb before they have to pay or wait 24 hours.
@@georgecaveington1661 Reset router lol
I always eagerly wait for your videos. I learn something everytime. Keep up the good work!
The most secure option? Get a hard drive, encrypt it and back up your files on it. Nothing leaves your home on the internet so you don't have to worry about how well someone's encryption is implemented, etc.
And after some time that hard drive gets magnetically broken or will be dropped to ground eventually so you'll have to say goodbye to your files.
Use a computer which never never link to internet an hard drive is way to go. I do this when window XP was on market. Use a camera on other phone and buy a GPS.
@@UmitSeyhan75 and that takes a long time but you’d have a backup of your backup. The amount of TB you get these days for $, is super cheap. Just bought a 5 TB HD for $95.
@@truthistheKJV yeah but is that HD encrypted like the iStroage diskAshure 2?
@@thebandit9982 yes like I said, encrypt it.
I would love to see this list revisited.
I'm suprised you did not mention sync, i'm currently trying ice drive.
Was originally an honorable mention and we decided to drop it because we weren’t personally a fan of the usability. But very happy it’s working well for you!
I love ice drive! I bought the 5TB lifetime plan very good service!
@@techlore Yeah, I tried Sync, it has promise, but it's way to slow. Don't like their mobile app either. They don't show previews for images which really sucks.
Damn, I've been thinking about moving from google drive then you release this video. Thanks!
@D Rawli I found this software called air explorer, it can sync files from my computer to google drive, yandex, mega, a bunch more plus ftp. It also has encrypted syncs as well so I might use google drive to share files and mega or ice drive to backup my own stuff.
I just want a nextcloud tutorial 🙏🙏
Awesome to see Mega in the list. I use it since even before the dark times
Their encryption has been cracked.
I love protonmail, my issue is the price for it's drive.
Protonmail is only good for internal communication. Encrypted messaging apps have far less meta data.
Oh
I will take proton drive when its app drop
Proton isn't as much trustable as we thought it is. Check Mental Outlaw's new video about protonmail : ruclips.net/video/IeXaYR4ed9c/видео.html
@@trappedcat3615 yes and that's what I use it for. And I use other email providers
Does anyone know if a good alternative to iCloud to backup the iPhone? I’m looking for something that can store my contacts, photos, notes, reminders, etc out of the box.
Nice review, but as someone involved in cryptography I find the term "zero-knowledge" misleading.
I'm certain that no provider is truly zero-knowledge simply because all current zero-knowledge solutions are impractical.
A real zero-knowledge solution wouldn't allow the provider to learn any metadata such as individual file sizes and access pattern to files.
Encrypt your files before uploading
@@njpme ok, how the hell would that work in a real scenario? Is there software that automatically does this?
@@renatosardinhalopes6073 use open source encryption software. Encrypt your files before you upload them. Just like how you would upload files to Google drive, dropbox etc, just encrypt it first before you upload it
@@njpme I guess that would work, but imo these cloud services are still good because you just put the file there just like you would in google drive. This encryption process is another hassle tbh.
You put in the file On this cloud service provider and it's already encrypted, Might no be perfect but miles ahead of something like google drive.
@@renatosardinhalopes6073 it's another hassle, but that's what I do with sensitive medical, financial and other personal documents that i have in digital form. I encrypt in with a long randomly generated password, then upload it to google drive and onedrive. The purpose is so that I'm the only one that can read my data. Without encryption, Google or Microsoft could possibly read my data since they have the encryption key. They're the one encrypting ever data on their server.
As much as I'd love to use a zero-knowledge encryption cloud service, I've found that I'm not comfortable managing those keys myself. Zero-knowledge encryption can put your very important data at risk of loss if you aren't confident in your own ability to manage and maintain those keys. I personally use cloud backups as part of my 3-2-1 backup plan with my NAS and an external hard drive as the other 2 pieces. If my house burns down, and I need to recover my files from my cloud provider, I don't have to worry about whether or not I have my keys. For me, the trade-off is worth it because I need those files if something catastrophic happens. Maybe not the exact scenario that this video was addressing, but felt that I should mention it as a possible concern.
fag
To get around this I use public available things as key, like, the URL of a site; the URL will always exists so there's no worry of forgetting it.
Why no pcloud ?
A video to self host nextcloud would be great! Also searx! Thanks!
why pcloud isn't in the list?
Because is not privacy safe
Because it sucks! Not cool to paywall zero knowledge encryption.
@@bigmeany1184But its cheaper than service 5, tresorit. Thats 24 per month. P cloud is 15 per month with encryption
Read the controversies about pCloud.
@@Geothy IceDrive is £3.33/month, so that's cheaper than either.
Yea even p-cloud is secure right??
And Pcloud ?
That is a cpu hog.
This is awesome, thank you. I've also heard about pCloud. Is there a reason this didn't make the cut?
pCloud advertising industry has too many configurations, the key point is that pCloud upload and download speeds are unstable
For those who is wondering about the Ice Drive cloud. I signed them just after this video, I was in a really emergency need for a cloud.
I was using Ice Drive for about 2 months, I just cancelled their services. I do not recommend. For it's price, you think this is a professional and working product, but really still in development mode.
To upload something in the cloud is awful, is slow in everyway, makes you want to give up.
The videoplayer is slow, half the times doesn't work. Is not possível to see subtitles too. The same applies to read some.
You can't use this app as a backup for you Android neither. What's the point of having this app then?
Summing up: NOTHING WORKS AS ITS SUPPOSED TO.
I hope to have helped somebody with my comment and horrible mistake.
Spider Oak?
How about encrypting your sensitive data before upload?
I do like cryptomator.
I have been experimenting with Cryptomator for a few months now. Trying to add it to my work flow.
Any data sensitive data you upload to a cloud drive. You should have some form of encryption on it.
I use spideroak. It is without a doubt my favorite backup utility hands down. I rely on it more than my offline backups as well because it's just so convenient, reliable, and private.
A much needed video at the right time.
I'm curious which large storage cloud backup services you recommend, and which of the largest ones you don't recommend. What is your take on iDrive?
Pcloud is my favourite because it supports windows explorer with all it's functions which makes it just an addition of your HDD drive in my computer.
PCloud is not safe for privacy, they scan your data and can delete your account without notiface you.
What about pcloud?
Is that good?
Nextcloud has a few big issues and it definitely shouldn't be number one. If you aren't a highly technical person just forget self hosting it. I'm a full stack web dev and spent way to much time working out the bugs. Second, their phone app sucks! Like really bad. It's slow, UI is just meh, opening a file seems to download it again(?), if you use the auto upload for things like your phone pictures it COPIES them to its own directory thereby DOUBLING the amount of space your pictures will take on your phone. No thanks.
@Mohammed Fayz Shaikh try storj decentralized cloud storage
And thanks again for this friendly content for the whole family.
There is a proof-of-concept out there for breaking Mega's encryption!
What about pCloud
So what's the best way to avoid Apple's new feature? self-hosting cloud( no sync with iCloud at all)?
if you always gpg your file before upload to any cloud, every cloud is the same.
Using Cryptpad Henry
Stingle Photos should be on this list definitely
Interesting as always 👀
5:30
Techlore turning the video into a watchmojo video. Resepct.
What about Linode?
Mega strangely keeps getting blocked by ublock origin on my browser is that happening to anyone else?
Great video! Thank you
What cloud should one use to host a private social media platform?
This vid is a bit outdated now that iCloud offers end to end encryption. Granted, it doesn’t do this for email and contacts, but it’s a viable option for some people.
100%
mega looks like it is the best option
good video, but you should have included pcloud, at least as an honorable mention.
Which cloud storage is the most secure ...???
Love
something to keep in mind: *NO* web interface can be secure, because they could serve you a malicious page at any time, which would get your keys, even if they're stored "in your browser"
Sync is good ? or not ?
Neat Intro!!
mmm, mega is looking great. Signing up.
If I only have iOS devices to work with what would be my best option(s)?
So basically no cloud service is secure including the ones you mentioned? So I will better off getting a flashdrive hardrive etc
If your phone got malware , can you back up those malware back to iCloud ?
So once u reset your phone u restore the malware back to your phone ?
hello?! Icedrive isnt open source right?
Do any of these have free service with zero knowledge encription? And won't delete your docs after a certain amount of time not used?
How is the data protected at managed Nextcloud services? Can the service admin access the Nextcloud database contents?
I love Kdrive!
Always with the right video at the right time..
Don’t buy nordlocker, Really bad experience. Bought nordlocker for cloud storage but it doesn’t work. The application is still in beta but that’s mentioned nowhere when purchasing the service. I’ve spend months with support trying to fix it but it still doesn’t work and I’m done with it. If if they can fix it after all this time, I’ve lost trust that the application can safely store my files. I asked for my money back but they don’t want to refund me, even though they weren’t honest upfront and I tried to fix the situation with them.
I think I would rather put my data physically on thumb drives, and portable hard drives even in 2023 then depend on any cloud services
Mega seems not liked I can't set up Mega with things like Joplin
I used to use Mega in the past for sending files
we need a vid of free best private clouds anyone know who is the most privates clouds?
Which one is the cheapest?
Do you know whether Dropbox is safe or is it more like the other bigger cloud companies?
Dropbox send ur data to gov like as Google and apple
If Techlore is on my country:
Techlore *making content* : "This company said they won't share your data..."
*knock* *knock* "Pizza Delivery!"
And he was never seen again...
Any views about Sync?
i would not use proton ecosystem. i mean not many services from same provider
Explain me like I’m five. So why’s Mega Bad?
no one said mega is bad, stupid
I lost privacy by having my debit card connected to my cloud . .
very helpful video, thanks. I thought you were going to also mentioned sync.com. Any reason why it wasn't mentioned? Thanks.
Any tips on how to game privately?
4:44 , some time soon, "aka never" XD
mega code may be very secure but the proprietary code of apple and microsoft is full of holes that can be exploited
didnt the feds get the keys to proton? should we still trust them?
IceDrive scans your file hashes to see if they contain copyrighted material. Is there a service that doesn't do that?
Just change or remove the first character in your file header and save the file. Naturally this will temporary corrupt the file. But that's okay. Then zip the file and change the extension to *.ova. It will throw the copyright bot off, as your files will appear corrupted. Works fine for me.
what about sync?
Mega is good?
can you tackle terabox... Pleaseeeeee
Any comment about Pcloud ?
What about nas?
Why Techlore never talks about Cryptomator?
Why does fdroid says it trackes an reports my activity?
You forgot pcloud
Mega should have been at the top....and you didnt even mention Sync.
why not icloud?
You can’t even watch 60 seconds of a video? Like seriously?
iCloud has an encrypted option, and is great for iOS/Mac, but it's built into the Apple ecosystem, so while I think it's good, I wouldn't recommend it over options that are well supported across all devices. Being stuck to one brand is never good for privacy as they can turn on you at any moment.
What about PCloud?
Is good but they scan your files, is not privacy safe.
pCloud?
That 1.56€/TB/month is the most disingenuous bullshit I ever remember seeing in online retail! There isn't even a 1 TB purchase plan, and the plan they advertise those cheap terabytes with actually costs 299€ for an entire year with 16 TB of storage.
Thanks but no fucking thanks!
"Hello Average Joe, can I interest you in this ordinary product right here?"
"Sure, it looks just like what I'm looking for! How much?!"
"Only 1.56€ with a purchase of sixteen."
"SIXTEEN?! Are you fucking mad?! Why the hell would I need 16?! You said one!"
Who's gonna tell him ICloud uses end-to-end encryption
Mega now its russian ФСБ storage so it untrusted
5:10 trusted?? duh???
what a great video tho for the most part i dont care if my files are viewed by glowie boys
You guys are a bit too normie for my taste, haha. To me Kim Dotcom's history is a big plus and lends much more credibility than Proton. But I still love you of course, great work! :)
5:10 protonmail gave encryption keys to the Swiss government when they asked so that's an immediate L
@Bon's Scott Both of you are wrong on the details.
Protonmail was forced to log and give the *Swiss Government* a *French Activist's* IP address. The French agency that made the demand abused an international system, through Europol, that was intended for extreme situations, such as child trafficking and terrorism, to bypass digital protection laws and catch an activist.
No encryption keys were handed over, and Protonmail made a public statement afterwards that, "if you need to protect your identity from a government, only access protonmail through Tor." No company can refuse a demand from law enforcement to log and hand over an individual's IP address. They'd be breaking the law.
The only information handed over was
1. date of account creation.
2. ip addresses used to access account.
3. devices used to log in
Nothing else was sent, because nothing else could be sent.
hahahaha give it a rest mate cryptomator isnt even a cloud service ffs
Icedrive and pcloud both are useless 👎,
If put files or photos in encrypted drive then you can't share link, or becomes hard to find photos and file
if you want to share, then don't encrypt. this is common sense.
@@TonyKelly without encrypt, they are not safe, then why I will pay for cloud drive that is not safe ( they put all safety features in encrypted drive)
First
For those of you who are looking for something free, skip the video! Cause this guy only gives you PAID options! 👎
How about pCloud ?