How Psychedelics Can Help, Drug Addiction, and Nature of Consciousness, with Dr. Roland Griffiths
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Megyn Kelly is joined by Dr. Roland Griffiths, Director of the Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, to talk about the history of psychedelic drugs, how caffeine is one of the most-used addictive drugs in the world, how "psilocybin" research started and how it is conducted, the amazing results of psychedelic use in patients, how psychedelics can help with depression and addiction, what happens in the brain during a psychedelic experience, the differences between MDMA or psilocybin or ketamine, the current state of addiction in America, groundbreaking cancer patient study using psychedelics as therapeutics, how Griffiths' personal experience of a terminal cancer diagnosis has changed his own perspective, appreciating life and practicing gratitude, the questions about end of life, how we can make the most of our lives, the nature of consciousness, and more.
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It will be 4 years this year that I’ve lost my dad to stage four cancer. I’m only 26 and am missing one of the most important people in my life throughout all of my life’s most important moments. That being said I was crying a lot already hearing this segment and thinking of my poor dad when you unfortunately revealed that your guest is also terminally ill. I must say what a great guest he was and how BEAUTIFUL and awesome it is for his family and friends and us to be able to see him and hear him speak passionately, smile, and laugh on this episode where it will be available until the unforeseeable future thanks to you and your team Megyn. I only wish I had a video like this of my dad ❤ Sending love to him and his family
So sorry for yr loss.
@@laurenadilev4553 Thank you
My daughter had Esketamine therapy for Treatment resistant depression. The treatments were tough at times but the results have been phenomenal and it changed her life.
What an absolutely beautiful human being. Thank you Megyn for introducing him to me…all things I needed to hear tonight. So grateful for you both, for all my blessings, and for this amazing life 🙏
Oh Megyn, what a truly amazing episode. I lost my beautiful 94 year old mum on Monday , she had a fall and broke her hip on Saturday and had to have surgery. Her poor heart failed and we lost her a few hours later. I wasn't going to listen to this but thought it would keep my mind busy. I'm so glad a did. Like you i had tears running down my cheeks at the end and so admire the incredible positivity of this man. Thank you and bless you for bringing this remarkable man to us. ❤️❤️
THANK YOU Megyn Kelly! I have been following Dr. Griffiths for years...even volunteered for his psilocybin study. Unfortunately, I am too old and have a heart arrhythmia, so no go. You have shined the light on him and his research. Your curiosity, tact, empathy, and grace shown through in this exellent interview. God bless you and Dr. Griffiths.
Megyn, you're such a good interviewer! This conversation was deep. It really puts life into a new perspective.
I'm in ketamine therapy now. I go once a month and have weekly talk therapy. It has helped me come to terms with the death of my parents and brother in tragic way
do some research on your ancestors.Go back maybe a hundred years and find out how they died.There is a hidden message there for you.Its about purpose of life and death.
@Andy griffin Roland didn't recommend people use any of these unsupervised. It is true that if you have a serious clinical depression, severe anxiety, family members with schizophrenia etc. that you can have increased risk for paranoid, psychotic reactions. This is powerful medicine and not without risk. The setting is everything. If you are with trained mentors in a safe place and you don't have the genetic risk factors for highly adverse experiences fine, but if you're really down, upset, or kind of paranoid already and take these in an unsupported, stressful einvornment this could result as Roland said in suicide, homicide and permanent psychosis. Hallucinogenics change the way that your neural synapses are firing. Don't 'fool around with it' alone if you are having troubling problems and think you can take this with no one else around. Could be a 'bad' trip' that you may regret. First try safer experiences if at all posslbe by working with a trusted medical professional in a clinic setting first time if you can.
Thank you for covering this topic with Roland. God bless you both ♥️🙏
There's so much wrapped up in this discussion! I love what Roland said about gratitude, meditation, and blessing. Many years ago, a traumatic chapter drove me into intense pain and despair which led me to a totally new world view. The teachings of people like Eckhardt Tolle were critical to moving me through the experience in a healthy way. Gratitude and meditation have become daily practices and have completely changed my life. I've never taken psychedelics but have been curious to explore their effects and any further enlightenment that might be gained through them. Thanks for reminding us of Steve Jobs' last words. When I was a child, my dad told me of my grandmother's last words; "Oh, what a beautiful place!" I've been very interested in listening to near-death experiences for many years. I find them strikingly beautiful and similar in many cases. Perhaps, psychedelic experiences point to some of the very same revelations. IDK, but it's an interesting and intriguing thought. I love your empathy and compassion, Megyn. You're a classy girl and I love your show.
This is the most impactful conversation I've ever listened to. Thank you Roland. Thank you Megyn.
That was the most amazing thing you just did Megyn. You two moved a mountain. "Steps to Knowledge" is the best to practice to learn to go deep. Like he said, it's very hard, but that's the way it's always been. It's the way.
Thank you for this
I second it. "Steps of Knowledge" is definitely a powerful meditation practice. Thank you.
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One of the best, if not THE BEST, Megyn. What a truly remarkable man. I lost my husband, two sisters and mother to cancer. The realization of what the diagnosis means is surely the worst phase. What an inspiration this humble, yet brilliant, man is. God bless him and his family and thank you for bringing him to us.
I am so sorry for all your losses. I have a comparable story in my family without listing it, we all know life is good. May we believe in Jesus to take us to Him where we won't remember any 'bad' times.
Kelly, wish you would do several segments on chronic pain sufferers who have or are now losing the only thing that allows even minimal living. A living frightening hell! I am a 73 year old grandmother who has never had alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine! I have been fighting suicide for 7 years. I’m envious when I hear of someone who has cancer. They can at least choose death when they are sick of fighting. They have an international support group. They are given compassion and pain relief. My pain conditions won’t kill me. Suicide will. I have a large loving family. Much to live for but the cruel suffering is every waking moment. Look up chronic pain and read the comments of sufferers. I cry
sending you love all the way from Norway. you are not alone
Jon Kabat Zinn has a Mediation for Pain Relief that I listen to multiple times daily. This has helped me tremendously. He founded Mindfulness Meditation.
🙏 for you being sent up right now.
Such a touching and beautiful discussion Megyn! What an amazing human being he his and we’re all blessed to have heard fr him. Thank you Roland and Megyn for doing this
I can honestly say I wouldn't be the man I am today without the extraordinary enlightenment of psychedelics. They literally open parts of your mind that I can confidently say wouldn't have been tapped without them. In the simplest terms I said to myself "dude, you're doing it (living life) wrong" They changed me as a person. Less hostile, more introspective, and a greater appreciation for all things. Every so often you have to clean out the pipes and reconnect spiritually. imo
😀You sound very Timothy Leary! (I still have a few of his books in a box in the attic...I guess we still have to tread carefully when taking this 'bad boy' out of the box.)
Such a beautiful and important interview on so many levels. This man is such a gift.
I'm 71. My doc just yesterday said in physical fitness I'm in the top 10% of my age group. All wonderful. Except I had a stroke in the last year. I've recovered, but I'm not the same. I know now in fact, what I knew only intellectually earlier, I have an expiration date. Much of the last ten minutes of this really spoke to me. Thank you Megyn.
Love watching your show Megyn. You have the most amazing, charming, calming, healing and most pleasant voice of anyone I have ever heard! Thanks for your vulnerability at the end of the show in showing your deep feeling about Roland's close-to-death experiences.Your caring nature is an asset! I can tell that Roland has been practicing Mindfulness Meditation for many years. It is not that he is not having anger, fear, frustration because he does but he is 'watching' these emotions arise and fall, he has awareness of these emotions, He isn't 'gripped' and stuck in these as he simply without heavy-handed intensity just acknowledges them and holds these feelings as they rise and let's them go by not clinging to them. I like that he 'reframes' these feelings by focusing consciously on gratitude and celebration. Not that these emotions are 'bad' because as he says, we ARE human and it is 'human' to grieve, to cry, to get angry and get frustrated as well as to express all the 'feel good' emotions of enthusiasm and joy etc. As Roland says, our 'animal' selves have these emotions because on an evolutionary level they are advantageous to us.
Like Roland, I too have the core desire to help humans learn to 'get along' and find the essence of all conflicts and together or separately work on these aspects both 1-1 as well as in a group. Rather than 'cutting off' relations with 'enemies' I believe it is important to stay engaged if possible, to ask the difficult questions, to be genuine, to be truthful, to listen, to learn. to s peak.
. By practicing mindfulness meditation daily myself and by doing daily reflections upon at least 10 things I am grateful for in the morning and at last 10 things in the evening and doing this WITH my fiance daily as well as sharing specific things we appreciate about each other and praying each day together we have the best relationship and life. This is so even though this doesn't require any hallucinogenics to develop this same steady, consistent positive attitude and feeling that Roland expressed of living daily with profound appreciation of the miracle of being alive on this jewel of a planet and by remembering daily to be thankful for all the things that are 'working' well without me even thinking about them every moment both in my body and in my life... I completely relate to Roland's attitude of celebration of life. May this way of being alive be learned by more people!
By the way, there is a neuroscientist who had this dog named Chaser who remembered the names of over 2,000 toys. There is a documentary film about him and Chaser. He too had this same beautiful spirit as Roland!
Thanks to you both. Life is such an amazing journey ~ with all its ups & downs. ~ Every second is precious.~ Thank you for reminding us, dear Rolland. 🙏 ~ And thank you, Meygan, for conducting this interview in the most instructive and sensitive way. One of your best. ~ And yes, go to the Centre. Rolland is, clearly, an exemplary guide. ~ Blessings to you both. 🙏
Wow! What a most loving and moving interview. Two amazing and mindful souls sharing such touching concepts. I will save this, it’s so special. Thanks Megyn and Blessings to you Roland! Both changing the world for the better… ❤❤❤❤
This is one of the best shows period. Not specifically this episode but all of them. Thank you Megyn. 🎉
What a beautiful message, I am very grateful and feel blessed for having the opportunity to listen to both of you. Thank you Roland, I will keep you and your family in my prayers. Thank you Megyn for having this type of content in your show. 🙏🏻
I’ve done many sessions of ketamine infusions and what the doctor is describing with the mushrooms is much like the experiences I have had.
It is indescribable. It is spiritual. It is wondrous. I definitely would put it in the top experiences of my life and it feels like you are operating in another plane of existence. I have felt pure joy during those sessions.
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Very interesting and great questions, Megyn! Psychedelics, nature of consciousness and psilocybin research is fascinating.
I love the idea of how you can take negative energy or thoughts and repurpose that energy into gratitude for the appreciation of the extraordinarily precious gift of life. I, like you, found myself in tears at the end of the interview and wanted to express my gratitude for Dr. Griffiths for his body of work and his overall appreciation for every precious gift that life gives us.
So very well written. Thank you.
St. Teresa, the Little Flower, said "Everything in Life is a gift". I've always remembered that because she died so young. She truly was remarkable and wrote about the same things that Roland speaks of now. Especially gratitude. Thankyou Megyn. I really enjoyed this.
What a precious conversation! Dear Megyn, thank you for everything you do every day! Such beautiful souls you and this doctor, made my day. Sending best wishes and love
Psilocybin has been a game changer for me. Growing up as a little Mormon girl, anything, such as this would have been extremely taboo. However, I have found psilocybin to be life-saving for me. Thank you for sharing this information. The more information we get out there the more people can be helped.
This is why I love the Megyn Kelly show so much - she isn't afraid to explore things deemed provocative and helps us understand these topics with intelligent analysis every time.
What a beautiful and incredible episode. Very brave of Ms. Megyn and the questions of Megyn! Even Dr. Roland Griffiths enjoyed it. The world need someone like him. We will be praying for you Dr. Griffiths and of course always for Ms. Megyn Kelly ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ from the Philippines
What an amazing talk. I wish all cancer patients could go through the same awareness and not spend their final amounts of time in a place of fear and suffering. Life is a gift ❤
Megan I am so glad it's just show I too am a strait-laced middle-aged woman in my depression and anxiety got me to an all-time low all of my feelings were overwhelming and irrational and I knew that but I could not stop the anxiety and I was given an opportunity to try psilocybin during that time and because I was in a different place I tried and it was profoundly life-altering I cannot say the anxiety is curable but it is definitely treatable with psilocybin
What a wonderful show. I just love Dr. Roland Griffiths. Praying for him and he finds The Lord!
Megyn BEST SHOW YOU HAVE EVER DONE ! You’ve shown empathy through your eyes . I’ve so much to say about this show. There are the five stages of grief that possibly 99% of human beings go through. 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining ( making a pact with a God you most likely never really believed in eg. God please let this be a misdiagnosis, and I’ll go to church everyday for the rest of my natural life ) 4. Depression 5. Acceptance. I know those five are all cliches for anyone over fifty mais the last thing young people ever think about is growing old ,and expiring someday . We are hardwired in the denial of death . I’ve taken acid possibly fifty times . The first time was like being reborn, the greens of the autumn leaves in upstate New York were like something I couldn’t explain, like seeing nature for the first time , and how every man made gizmo was insignificant in the extreme . Rather than write for an hour of my experience’s I would suggest you, and your husband have a clinically supervised experience OUTSIDE in the middle of the woods where there are trees, small animals ,and no distractions , just have a couple of “guides” for lack of a better term. Don’t go into this if you’re predisposed to anxiety or depression from a current life event , be yourself ,and don’t necessarily take the highest dose , that’s not necessary. It’s like putting your toe in the water only this time you’ll feel it through your entire body. Bon chance …
I listened to this on Spotify while doing my walk today. This is my favorite episode so far. So fascinating. You made me cry at the end.
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I did this and it worked. I have cpsd. Severe nightmares. It really works. Microdosing. Changed my life. I’ve had so much trauma, floods , fires, abuse. More that I won’t share but it’s working and worth it! Thank you dr.
This is the best Megyn show I have seen, and I am only at 1.07. The "psilocybin" experiences described sound so like the experience I had when I 'technically' died. I was resuscitated after a car crash, had amnesia for 5 weeks - but I remember the feeling/experience which was so very hard to put into words.
My dear husband passed away 2yrs ago, 3yrs after he was diagnosed with terminal Stage4 colorectal cancer. He was 2yrs younger than Dr Griffiths nearly to the day. I remain so very grateful for having him in my life for 32yrs that the sadness of his absence hasn't a chance to pull me down.
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Great to hear you talking to guests about entheogens. If we can let go of the baggage, much of which was completely fabricated during 60s - 80s, we can open up healing and human development in some amazing ways. Appreciate you having the courage and taking the time, to learn and share.
Bawling my dang head OFF. Just weeping. Before this podcast I was listening to Dr. Drew interview Del Bigtree and I came away from that with such foreboding and fear of what’s coming. Then here I am listening to this incredible man and Megyn is crying and now I’m crying. Emotional whiplash. Please God calm the global hearts that are so fearful and angry and confused. Let us find joy in each moment and see as much good as we can in those around us. Except for Fauci. He sucks. 🤨 😂
Thank you Megyn and team for bringing this man to us. God bless. ❤️
Bless you Sir for all the people you have helped through your illustrious career. I, like Kelly, believe you are going to be quite impressed with what comes next. Well Done!
Hearing Dr. Griffiths chuckle was infectious.
What a wonderful and wise man Dr Griffiths is - thank you both for a very moving interview.
Thank you Dr. Griffiths, Megyn, and SiriusXM
Many comments have been made about your guest, Rowland, and you regarding this interview. Due to a lack of something to say, I just want to thank you for this. Deeply touching and emotional.
Many years ago I worked with Jacquelyn Small in a process she called Integrative Breathwork. It was based on work done by Stanislov (Stan) Groff. Since use of psychedelic drugs was illegal, the process used a focused breathing technique to achieve the altered state. It was done in a darkend room, with a sitter, and faciliated by evocative music; very similar to what Dr. Griffiths describes about his sessions. Groff's original work was also done with psychedelic drugs and it led him to develop a theory about human consciousness, the psyche, and the impact of a person's birth process on later perceptions and behavoirs. Many of his books are still available and I highly recommend them.
Megyn, what an amazing program and interview that was.
At the beginning I thought it was “just” a quite interesting talk about medicine, mental health and pharmacology. However, by the end it was one of the most touching and insightful programs I ever had the pleasure to watch and listen in these over 4 decades of life of mine.
Thank you so much for being such an amazing interviewer, and there aren’t enough words to express the gratitude in wisdom from Dr. Griffiths. What a precious talk was that one. Thank you!
Dr. Roland, Wishing you health and healing. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experiences. Magyn, what fantastic job you did. Thanks
I love Roland!!! Great show, Megan. I listened to every second and I'm crying too.
Godspeed to Roland, he has me interested in attempting meditation. ❤️❤️💕🙏
What an amazing interview. What a beautiful and wonderful soul Roland Griffiths is. The world is a better place for him being in it 😢 thank you Megyn for allowing your guests to speak, for being humble and for allowing us to see so many fantastic guests 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Megan Kelly
One of the most enlightening, honest, and beneficial reports/interview I have been blessed enough to come across.It is pure and real. It speaks to the soul. Pure undiluted information at it's finest. What a wonderful man. Life changing.
I have MS and am on oral ketamine. I have been treated by every opioid and my body does not tolerate opiates. Ketamine has been a game changer for me. Thank you doc! We need more like you!
Great, great interview Megyn. Blessings to you Dr. Roland Griffiths.❤
Great talk with Dr Griffith, informative and emotional.
Thank you for bringing attention to this!!!
This is the Megyn I know and love. Amazing and interesting interview.❤
Excellent guest Megyn, what a great choice. Dr. Griffiths explains so much, so well without any hype.
Thank you Megyn, loved it. You are a fantastic host.
well that was unexpected! love where your interests take you, Megyn! you are not afraid, and so curious and open. love it.
which is why she is so good at what she does,her honesty and courage.
Thank you for this uplifting episode. It was inspiring and touching. Dr Griffith exudes humility strength intelligence and compassion.
I need to try this. So tired of fighting my mental health issues (and I have many) and alcoholism
It helps. I take oral ketamine and it is amazing!
This show was absolutely one of your best by far. I love every episode and how you have on everyone about everything. Then, the gut punch, this man spending so much of his life helping others, gets that Dx.
What an amazing man! God bless
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area. I suffer some pretty bad anxiety and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea
Magic mushrooms don't only help with mental health, they help amplify your empathy, if people were more empathetic the world would be a better place
/da_shariff/
Got psychs
tripping is not a bad idea but having a Mycologist who will recommend you the dosage is the best option
@@Lisa78843
is he on Instagram or what?
I have been following info for a few years now on these subjects.....exciting, fascinating and life changing stuff here. It is well past time to get this out into mainstream
What a beautiful, Caring, Gentle human.
I took mushrooms a few years ago and it was literally one of the most profound experiences I’ve ever had and one of the most vivid and beautiful memories I still have today.
Thank you Megyn, what an awesome interview.
This was incredible. God speed to Dr. Griffiths.
Hell, we grew our own mushrooms in college in the mid-80s. One of the reasons I believe contributed to my mental balance and lack of depression.
I did Ibogaine 13 years ago... been clean since.... it was the best thing to ever happen to me....
i love me some megyn... but how cute that she is just talking about this ;)
Loved this show. Watching from Australia 🇦🇺
Delightful man and I love Megyn's generosity of spirt.
Roland I will be praying for you!
Thank you for sharing this info on psilocybin, I KNOW this would help me. I deal with severe depression & I use drugs to medicate. I can function in drugs. I am really sick of using drugs, why can't I feel normal? How would I go about finding psilocybin?
I'm ready to lick a frog - if it will give me relief!! HELP
The Lord said, “Come unto Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.” Matthew 11:28-29
Thank you for this reply. This topic seemed very dark and void of God. It just made me sad…
@@heatherremtema273 God bless you Heather. ❤ The world has no hope. Christ came to give life and that more abundantly. He is our joy and our hope. 😊
Omg what a sweet man!!! I’m in tears😩 great show
WOW!!WOW!WOW!! Bravo Megyn, You are the Balm!!🥲🤗 love your sessions that was truely worth listening to! Thank You!!
Thank you Megyn and Roland.
We are thankful for the change in law here in Cali. Golden Door chocolate bars are wonderful!
This was a really beautiful episode ❤️
Wow!! And I thought you with Mike Rowe was great. This interview was absolutely the best I have ever listened to. Ever!
Psilocybin-induced ego suppression is what causes all these experiences. Having the cement walls of the ego being shuttered puts one into wider awareness.
Great show Megyn. And God bless Roland.
Wow. Thank you so much for this. ❤
Fascinating! You only have to look at some of the songs written in the 60s, weird lyrics, but masterpieces nonetheless 😅👌. What an amazing attitude Dr Ronald has. Such a beautiful kind soul ❤️ 🫂
Wow! Got the shivers too... there at the end. What a remarkable man, inspiring interview. Meghan, bless Doug and your fam, and you for a very thoughtful and moving show. Unbeatable!
This is my new favorite Megyn Kelly podcast episode ❤ 🙏
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I have taken LSD many times and also mushrooms. I do not recommend anyone taking LSD by themselves although my experiences were good. I have also had near death experiences. You actually do not die. Your consciousness goes on without any missing of thought. I actually think it is not the best thought because I do not have children and I’m not married. So I do not fear death at all which is not that good. I am not suicidal at this time but I can’t say I won’t be at some time. I’m so glad this man talked about the good attributes of mushrooms. They are amazing and I’m glad that he has his attitude.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
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Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it instagram?
@@Jerryberger9235 Yes, he’s got other psychs too
@@sarahh321 Thanks, I’ll get some right away
wow this is incredible to see you supporting this. i agree a million % you are powerful and can influence the stubborn old white man and its good to see your powers are being used for good here.
I want to see if they can help with ADHD. Thank you so much for this program!
I am still listening, but I seem to be the only one who doesn't like this. I am really leery of like, most drugs now and also vaccines. These kinds of drugs, aren't they what drug addicts take? I just don't see the need, but I'll keep listening to the end.
As someone who always wants to be in control, I find psychedelics an interesting diversion from both reality and normancy, however experiencing the experience can recalibrate thinking and create innovative thinking. Hope that makes sense.
I just started listening to you on siriusxm and your shows are spot on with intriguing people and no BS stories. I look forward to your continuing shows!
Dear Dr. Griffiths..
I find this so interesting. I grew up in the 60's and 70's, soil I am not psychedelic naive. Lol. I never had any bad experiences. I have a daughter who has intractable depression. I have encouraged her to look into this. She has Bipolar disease diagnosis which complicates what she can take. I thank Dr Griffiths for taking this on considering the stigma that surrounded it. I have to say I cried ar the end. What an amazing and wonderful man!
@Andy griffin whats the name of store
Bless this man
Expert? As a therapist, this applies in my experience with clients...
"Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter." Isaiah 5:20
Queen MK has never had a toke??!! CANADIAN DEBBIE, GIRL, ROLL ONE UP!