Why America must pivot from Ukraine to Taiwan - former Trump adviser Elbridge Colby | SpectatorTV
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- The war in Ukraine is only bogging America down, says Elbridge Colby, a former national security adviser to the Trump administration. On this episode of Americano, Colby tells host Freddy Gray why the US should - and likely will - reduce its support to Ukraine and Europe, to focus on the increasing threat China poses over Taiwan. Europe, he says, can pick up the slack on its own continent. Colby has been tipped to become Trump's national security adviser should he win in November this year.
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The USA must pivot from foreign to domestic issues.
The world does not need the USA to dictate their internal affairs.
Wellie
@@user-fh3yx9vw7v That didn't work after Pearl Harbour and the rise of Nazi Germany
When it comes to Ukraine and Taiwan it's about defending democracy against tyrants, it's not about dictating their internal affairs they can vote what they want
@@frisianmouve Ukraine government is killing her Russian Ukrainian minority.Taiwan is anti her Chinese ancestors.
Russia will not invade if the Ukrainian Russians are treated as a democracy,fair & humanity.Taiwn keeps on poking the dragon eyes may end up like Ukraine keeps on poking polar bear consequences.
Someone persuades you to fight somebody first you must know your own capacity not count on the person who persuaded you to fight his power.
In the end you will fight by yourself & become your conflict .He who persuaded you to fight in your house become a spectator & benefit his business.You will fight like a fool without achieving anything only devastation& bankruptcy.
So didn’t get what u want from Ukraine, now u want to mess up Asia?
Because it’s their interest, which they claim is for “peace” and “international order”.
the world is not enough....
^gibberish, Boris. Learn to make an argument.
@@FactCheckerGuy what’s ur argument then Brainwashed?
Exactly
So, another unsettled war? And then we move onto opening the next front? Crazy!
As an American, I think we should be friends with Russia and China. It’s good for our economics and let Europe worry about Europe will stick to our commitments, but we should not spend any more money defending Ukraine let them make peace.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Huh? You’re kidding of course
The US should pivot around a plug hole.
We should be having good relations with Russia and China
@@diegoflores9237 No, certainly not with Russia.
No no no no
@@diegoflores9237 Why?
@@ahartifyWhy should we have good relations with these two countries?
1. The US is no friend of ours. We are the second largest holder of US debt. We allow American companies to buy UK companies and in both instances all they do is extract huge amounts of wealth from us. On top of that no matter who we vote for, our policies are all dictated by Washington. We are no longer sovereign. What do we get in return? Not a lot. Europe is the same. Always remember what Kissinger said, ‘To be an enemy of America is dangerous but to be its friend is fatal’. We are killing our economy because of our alignment with Europe and America.
2. The West is in massive decline. We all know that. The East is riding and the West is declining. I’d rather be Sovereign and work with anyone else but the other members if the West. BRICS will grow 186% between now and 2040, the G7 50%.
3. China has a no interventionist policy in other country’s politics. There is huge interference from America in ours.
That’s why. Russia isn’t bad. The West has just lost their god same minds because they see their hegemonic status is declining.
@@diegoflores9237 we should actually
Ukraine needs peace ☮️
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No. Ukraine need a just and lasting peace, one that upholds the UN charter.
Ukraine needs independence and security. Security brings lasting peace.
100%. America also needs to stop its illegal occupation of Syria and Iraq.
@@FactCheckerGuy As long as your security does not make your neighbour feel insecure.
What "realists" don't understand is that while deterrence is not cheap, dealing with the mess, caused by the lack of deterrence, is _much_ more expensive.
What realists understand like this guy is that the West will implode economically if they keep doing this. If you want a global depression your answer is the right one.
What are you talking about????? How was Russia a threat to USA??? Russia provided cheap energy to half the world. USA pushed Ukraine to try and enter NATO, knowing full well this will cause war, and yet like a big bully, USA pushed Ukraine to destruction.
It's just pathetic to see this commentator talk about support of Trump . This fellow has no credibility .. none
«If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em»
US under Trump should join BRICS
@@nathanhiggers4606 As a would be dictator, of course.
Yes I agree with you completely thank you 🙏
@@nathanhiggers4606 And live under a dictatorship? No thanks.
@@ahartify Your vocabulary => mind is full of cliche, that's so silly. It's like you've studied politics on superhero comixes. Dick-tators, blahblahblah. Why do you care about this stuff?
Allied with non democratic countries??
Nice to hear a realistic assessment of the foreign policy disasters that have been inflicted on us by neo-cons ever since 9/11
What time is it in St Petersburg?
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@@stephfoxwell4620
Use your com.PUTE.rrrr to find out.
.Why does US has to assert its dominance in the SCS , miles away from their own shores. Yes there’s conflicting claims not only by China, Phillipines, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia. For decades the conflict have been managed by countries in that region.80% of China’s trades go through this region and it’s in their interest to safeguard the region. By labelling China an aggressor is outrageous when US has its military bases from Phillipines,Pine Gap and Darwin in Australia,the seventh fleet in the straits of Taiwan, Jeju island in S. Korea and Okinawa, forming a noose around China. Now figure out for yourself who the aggressor is and who is the defenders of peace in south east Asia. Furthermore US is not a member of UNCLOS and in what capacity is it acting on.
US please pivot your policy in creating a better nation for your citizens by focusing more on investing in health,educations, infrastructures and welfares of your people rather than spending billions on military expenditures overseas. It makes more sense to your lovely people. The Chinese word for America is “Mei Guo” , a beautiful country and China has much respect for your nation but not the people controlling the White House.
The US needs to pivot to mind its own business. The people of Taiwan need to take a good long look at Ukraine and realise that this will be their fate if they allow the US to mess around with them.
The US administration should pivot from Ukraine to making life for the American people better, and stop never ending wars, cold and hot with other countries
Thanks, but no thanks! We, People in Taiwan do not want to be Ukrainized. If Washington truly wants to help people in Taiwan, you have one of the following two options: (1) Revive the Common Defense Treaty between The Republic of China and USA, or (2) Fight the Chinese PLA directly far away from Taiwan and don’t drag us into saving your hegemony.
Ha FacistTube deleted my comment, but "we" must fight for freedom! Anyways, watch out for Taiwan "Maidan" and take care
I hope Trump turns away from Ukraine. I don't see why he would want to support a corrupt regime. I also understand that the US and British started in the first place.
Absolutely
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@@allenmouldey7784 Trump is corrupt and so is Putin. Ukraine needs to become less corrupt and is working on it, as itvl wantsvl to join NATO and the EU.
@@allenmouldey7784 So you support the far more corrupt regime in Russia?
What humbug
Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.
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@@devilishdeed No, Russia is actually desperate now.
@@ahartify yeah, and Putin in bad health, they have no rockets and their economy is dead lol
Right
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@@chrisspeksnijder1717 All tending 'realistically' but covertly and perversely in sympathy with the Kremlin and caring little for Ukraine. They share strikingly similar views to Putin's.
@@chrisspeksnijder1717 And all sharing strikingly and perversely similar ideas to Putin's.
Forgot my edit on that one
"@02:49. "... the proof is in the pudding ..." ?
What is the pudding, and does it prove?
Shouldn't that be " ... the proof of the pudding is in the eating."?
Seperated by a common language.
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China is providing stuff to Russia
No. They aren’t. Stop listening to garbage.
@@ashfield1425 They are stop denying reality
@@rebelmango2141 OK. Let’s take it at face value. Where is your proof that they are? I cover this war as a journalist. I have never seen one Chinese weapon on the battlefield. So, where’s the proof?
@@rebelmango2141not weapons ..
@@ashfield1425 About 70% of the machine tools and 90% of the microelectronics Russia imports come from China which includes items necessary for weapons from drones to tanks. The claim was providing stuff to Russia it doesn't have to be specifically weapons
It’s totally ridiculous to believe David lammy will be different to David Cameron. British foreign policy is never personality based. They have sophisticated systems at the foreign office and MI6. They advise in the minutest detail and the change in leaders is totally smooth
Since you British really seem to be into this.Why don't you pick up the slack.
“Chinese are taking aggressive stand against us, in South Chits set”???!!!
Failing regimes trying to be great. Jumping up and down yelling. If you want help Ukraine stop this war that you started and help rebuild Ukraine. Duh.
I think that both campaigns have their books too close to their nose! To have a change of perspective..
The USA new turning point is in adjusting its diplomacy and foreign policies towards the Middle East issues. Fair judgment in this strata requires a deeper knowledge of the real history of that part of the world not solely the biblical one!
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Spend more on war. That’s all I heard. Maybe change the title to where can the us spend more on arms
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Ukraine isn't NATO
Sorry, but I find Trump to be the biggest threat in our times. Unpredictable autocrat leading a democratic country to ISA doom.
Liar guest 😂
Peace through strength only works through real strength and willing to use it.
This gentleman is a sheep in wolves clothing and naively expects the Chinese to fall for his bluff.
If the US president is not even willing to allow Ukrainians to hit the bases inside Russia from where Russians launch attacks on Ukraine, because of fear of Russian retaliation, then the Chinese will call “peace through strength” as a bluff and gamble on the US staying passive.
Why is Taiwan - an island of 24 million people - more important to the US strategic interests than Europe?
TSMC produces a lot of semiconductors, but the machines producing them are from European ASML.
Europeans sent soldiers to war with the US after 9/11 and some countries - including the UK - suffered equal per capita casualties as the US.
Both US and Europe needs to increase its industrial base, but they are both dependent on each other for vital technology.
How are the US supposed to rival China both financially, technically and militarily without Europe?
Trump will have other old allies - like chairman of ISW general Jack Keane & former secretary of state Mike Pompeo - advising him and I’m not sure this gentleman will win the discussions with them.
Lots of claims that are simply untrue. A few of my favorites...
* "If the US president is not even willing to allow Ukrainians to hit the bases inside Russia ... " But the POTUS does allow Ukraine to hit bases inside Russia with some restrictions to prevent escalation.
* "Why is Taiwan - an island of 24 million people - more important to the US strategic interests than Europe?" It isn't. But why do Europeans think that the US should do all or most of the heavy lifting on a European issue. Take responsibility for yourselves.
* "... some countries - including the UK - suffered equal per capita casualties as the US." Simply not true unless you cherry pick data and massage the statistics. But perhaps you could visit the vast US cemeteries in Europe for some perspective on who rescues whom.
* "How are the US supposed to rival China both financially, technically and militarily without Europe?" Easily. BTW, the US is a singular noun since 1865. The US IS, not the US ARE.
Do you have any idea the implications of what you have written? You ok to send your family to the frontlines? What? Do you think everyone else will fight this war and you will be sitting at home? Wake the hell up. All you will end up being is cannon fodder to maintain US hegemony.
Why is Taiwan more important than Ukraine? Because Taiwan is part of the "first island chain" that denies the Chinese navy, and therefore all Chinese trade in a hostile environment, from accessing the open oceans and trading partners. If the Chinese navy break out of the island chains, they can protect their own oceanic trade, making American threats of sanctions/blockade irrelevant. That would put them on equal footings with the US on the world stage, because they already have an economy of a comparable size, and alternative/rival systems to the SWIFT, IMF, etc. The only advantages the US has over China, are 1) the island chains, and 2) the # of N weapons. Now do you see why Taiwan must be "defended" at all costs, but Ukraine is only a side project?
Good conversation. Nice to see some logic applied to the UKR situation.
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Thank you. V interesting
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Very professional and brilliant insights, thanks!
You dont project strength through abandoning your allies. Why would Taiwan or anyone else trust or fear you?
No one should ever trust America. They don't have any allies, just expendable assets.
@@soviet9366 Taiwan is not an ally. It's not even recognized as a country. The US used to have a military base in Taiwan and it was closed after the US recognition of China in 1979. There's no defense treaty between Taiwan and the US.
This is just another symptom of the decline of American hegemony. They can’t afford to keep funding Ukraine and try and tackle China.
US repeatedly said they would support Taiwan and they have a treaty in the Philippines.
This clown advising on matters of national security is scary.
But then the man whom he would be advising wouldn't really be listening, he doesn't think in the first place but just acts on the basis of low instincts.
Dunning Krugar affect in force here
@@jaunt3603 whatever CNN is getting all neurotic about this week.
@@adagietto2523 Disagree, most of Trump's actions were what his advisors wanted. Trump has no policies, it is a bunch of rhetoric but in the end the policies will come from guys like Colby just like when he served last time.
He's a scoundrel of the first order. To work for Trump and support him you would have to be.
What ever happened to isolationism? Maybe try that first.
@@aaronsmyth7943 Yes, as it worked so well with Neville Chamberlain and his philosophy.
The US tried neutrality before Pearl Harbour and the German Nazis came along. It didn't work. You should read some history.
You cannot isolate if you wish the US to remain top nation.
@@aaronsmyth7943 The US tried that before Pearl Harbour and Nazi Germany. It didn't work.
@@aaronsmyth7943 It didn't work for neutral US after Pearl Harbour and Nazi Germany.
His view isnt entirely unreasonable
Problem.with Britain is the country has interest in both the black.sea ans Asia Pacific
Its abysmal that the UK was able to send two.task force all the way to the falklands in the 80s and now 40 yrs later with an increase of 10million in population we cant find enough bodies to man our troops
The Black Sea? Britain has zero interests in the Black Sea nor is it even allowed to bring a military ship into the Black Sea with Turkey blocking access due to the Montreux Convention. Have you ever looked at what we sent to Falklands mate, we converted a bunch of civilian ships to make it work. I get it the military is small but with our debt load and lack of growth, we need to tackle that before moving onto increasing military spending. We are financially at our worst position since WWII if you've not read the recent articles outlining our state of affairs.
Quality not quantity.
@@JSK010Have you been watching the war in Ukraine. Quantity is everything.
@@ashfield1425 seriously? the side with 3x quantity making no significant gains
@@JSK010 What do you mean making no gains? Where did you hear that? Russia has captured huge amount of territory since the start of the year. Currently has reversed Ukraine’s counter offensive last year + a city and 50 additional villages. Who told you they aren’t making gains?
Trump will explain Ukraine is EU's responsibility. America wants to concentrate now on Airstrip Two.
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Trump cannot chew gum and walk at the same time. He has neither interest in Ukraine or Tiwan. His limited brain capacity will not allow anything but: Putin good, Orban good, Xi good, Me great, bah blah, blah.
Before going to bed, my wife complained to me: "This Russia is such a bad country, if Ukraine wants to join NATO, that is their business and freedom, Russia has no right to intervene. This is just an excuse for Russia to attack Ukraine." I said nothing, got out of bed and went to the kitchen, before returning to bed with knife in hand. I said to my wife: "Let's go to sleep" When she saw the knife, my wife suddenly sat up and looked at me with wide eyes. "What are you doing? Sleeping with a knife?!" she exclaimed. I replied, "Don't worry, let's go to sleep. Besides, sleeping with a knife is none of your business and that's my freedom." My wife said to me: "You're crazy! How can I sleep when you're lying next to me with a knife? What if you accidentally cut me?" I answered: "Well, you don't even trust your own husband, how can you expect Russia to trust Ukraine?" Sleeping with a knife is like Ukraine joining NATO."
Perverse. How can you expect Ukraine to trust Russia?
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Wow, what a nonsensical analogy. Ukraine has never posed any threat to Russia.
@@jonb5493 Wow, what a nonsensical analogy. Cuba has never posed a threat to the US. Think back to 1962, when the world was on the brink of disaster. Then the Americans withdrew atomic weapons from Turkey, and the Soviet Union from Cuba. Kennedy and Khrushkov were reasonable presidents, not like these today. I understand that Americans and Russians do not want enemy NUKEs on their borders.
@@jonb5493Nor did Cuba to the USA
Europe needs Ukraine. Ukraine needs Europe. As a part of Europe America needs Ukraine
Europe does not want nukes. Does America wants them?! Wake up, we were lucky and coldblooded in 62 and 84, but this time it is not the case....
Russia needs Ukraine. Europe does not.
The point about Ukraine and nato is not that they can give us something (although I think they will when Russia is quelled) but that morally, to protect that people group, they should be part of Nato. It’s also a step nearer to controlling the border of Europe and Russia
Russia won’t be quelled.
I have fact checked the mantra, re-stated here by Colby, that the USA has spent $200 billion on Ukraine. It is nowhere near that amount. The Kiel Institute tracker puts the sum at $74 billion spent and $60 billion recently allocated but not yet spent.
So he doesn't even have accurate facts? That seems like a big differential. It seems surprising he didn't have correct numbers ?
@@sula1529 Trump uses the 200 billion figure all the time- he did so in the debate with Biden - and neither Biden nor the moderaters picked him up on it. The figure is parroted by all of his supporters like Tucker Carlson, McGregor and Ritter. It seems to be part of the script they are given.
Are you an authority on accounts? Who cares if it is 200 billion or 60 billion. 1 billion is a billion too much.
@@bieituns As Clint Eastwood said “ Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one”
@@denismunro214 yes and you must have given your opinion after eating a potent bowl of vindaloo.
Sorry but no amount of being a realist can make up for supporting someone who is the worst affront to human decency we’ve ever seen in America politics.
Overextended and little bang for the money is very correct diagnosis of the patient. Polish catholics are good warriors and breeders but lack the sophistication to understand such concerts as freedom and democracy lets face it even the Manhattan lizards are confused by such abstractions. Things have to be framed as the next crusade or saving the virgin from the Chinese barbarian heavens.Keep it simple. Not mentioning the germans and french was cruel they have feelings too and need to feel important.
pivot home, cowboys
The US has spent $74 billion in Ukraine - or about 9% of it's annual defence budget. With that they have destroyed 90% of Russia's pre-invasion personnel and weakened their military capability for decades to come. All without the loss of a single American soldier. That has to go down as one of the greatest defence investments in history.
But Ukraine has 500,000 dead in the mud, millions have left and is bankrupt.
Victoria Nuland should never ever of backed the coup in 2014.
Ukraine is just another NeoCon disaster like Syria Libya Iraq and Afghanistan. The NeoCon agenda is a disaster for the West. All we gain is waves and waves of refugees.
With respect I bet you fell for the NeoCon propaganda about Iraqi WMD.
Ok but did this investment accomplish anything pursuant to a grand strategy? No. There will be no follow up, the US will not be able to capitalize on this investment because the Russian military is now bigger and more experienced than ever. Unless the US has a plan to actually destroy Russia in some major confrontation this investment will come to nothing.
True. The extent of practice that Russian armed forces have had is immense. Their knowledge levels have had a quantum jump from WWII type strategies to "networked" battlefield.
@@tb8865 "Russian military is now bigger and more experienced than ever" .. like saying a guy who stuffs his face with Mcdonalds + donuts for 10 years becomes "bigger and more experienced than ever".
Abandoning Ukraine and defending the sovereignty of Taiwan are mutually exclusive. With failure to defend democracy in Afghanistan and Ukraine, Taiwan and the entirety of South East Asia would rightly see the US as insincere and move into the orbit of China.
Democracy in Ukraine? The NeoCons/ Victoria Nuland backed the coup in 2014 against the then ELECTED government of Ukraine. 14,000 dead BEFORE the invasion.
Ukraine is just another NeoCon disaster like Syria Libya Iraq and Afghanistan.
You exemplify the ignorant fools running the US State Dept.
Two very different things for one, the US and most of the world don't see Taiwan as a sovereign country. Again the issues with China/Taiwan are they are locked in a civil war, but we don't want to see China use force used in reunification. While Ukraine and Russia were the same country for hundreds of years, Ukraine is however a sovereign country. Afghanistan never had a democracy, anyone who even surface knowledge knows we were propping up a bunch of warlords with some sham elections in the insane hope that a democracy would emerge.
What democracy was there in Afghanistan to defend?
Trying to impose democracy in Afghanistan was hubristic and arrogant.
He didn't say Ukraine should be abandoned, he said if it's more our problem than theirs and he's got a point. If we actually care, we can mobilise more. Pretending legal issues are holding us up is a lie, if really wanted to provide what was needed we could.
The US is capable of helping both. That's the whole point of being a superpower.
If the US wants to stop helping European countries fighting unprovoked wars of aggression, don't expect Europe to help you in the future when the showdown with China comes along. You can't have it both ways.
Wasn’t unprovoked.
Henry Kissinger, Noam Chomsky, George Kennan and George Robertson the ex NATO secretary general say Russia was provoked.
And the US now spends more servicing debt interest than it does on the entire military.
@@turbolevo8703 Really? When did Ukraine attack Russia or otherwise breach its sovereignty? Simply doing things you don't like does not constitute provocation. If it did, the US' war against Iraq in 2003 was also "provoked", as was its attack on Libya in 2011.
The NeoCons/ Victoria Nuland should never ever of backed the coup against the then ELECTED government of Ukraine.
America is bankrupt propped up by money printing.
We are not though. Look at the chinese military recently. Look at the numbers of missiles and ships they have amassed. Look at the American military struggling to recruit. I have personally been asked to join by random recruiters catching me running errands 5 times in the past year. Times have changed. Ukraine is a conflict where the only significance is the U.S.' reputation. Taiwan has much much more real strategic value. With it's position in the pacific ocean, semiconductors, and the implications for South Korea and Japan.