I loved the way Luciano is portrayed on this show. From all that I've heard from past historians of organized crime, Charles "Lucky" Luciano was a man that feared no one and had balls of Steel. He's doing a great job in this scene and especially the later years moving forward.
TheRealist 811 that’s true too, I do think this show does kinda soften Luciano up just a tad. Not a lot by all means because outside of the police, no one really f’ed with him. But let’s be honest, dude killed a lot of people, like IN REAL LIFE!! And that’s documented and facts. I don’t remember a scene where he killed anyone outside of ordering a bunch of hits.
Rothstein is such a fascinating person it’s almost weird😂😂😂guy was something else. Love how his personality was portrayed in this show, I feel they got a lot right. You can definitely tell very little people in that lifestyle was as level headed as he was.
Ivo Nandi has an amazing screen presence. His depiction of Joe Masseria was boss! This scene has the best four characters on Boardwalk. Anatol Yusef, to say he’s English does an awesome Brooklyn accent.
I admit he do do good in this show. But it was hard for me at first to take him serious in this roll. After seeing him as AJ's friend in the sopranos. He was just a lil wanna be tough guy. But he did good here.
@@robsancho3978 - Hey, that bakery boy who Christopher shot in the foot became a prohibition agent in Boardwalk Empire that Eli killed in his living room! From little acorns, eh? LOL!
AR was a genius. Basically fathered organized crime. Lucky Luciano himself was quoted in saying he learned everything from Arnold Rothstein...he was shot over a poker game I believe and on his death bed he refused to say who shot him. I kind of wished they showed his demise. Michael Stuhlbarg did an amazing job portraying his quiet genius and sort of elegant approach. Even threatening someone with death, he did it in the most respectful and well mannered way. 😂😂
@@theSuperviLLain_est It was neither said nor implicated, they just made a reference to Rothstein's passing when Lanksy runs into Nucky down in Havana. The hit Lansky set up was the failed hit on Nucky while he was in Cuba. Killing Rothstein offscreen was a shame but i understood why due to the time skip in season 5.
@@JayBeenCrippin No, its not. Its an easily verifiable fact. Lucky worked for Rothstein long before he worked for Masseria, and then eventually Maranzano. Again, factually, you are wrong.
Every time gangsters in movies talk percentages I always wonder how they know how much that will be. Do they have their own accountant auditing the books too haha
Luciano glaring at Maseria @ 2:04....cut away to Maseria @ 2:06. Painting behind him. Skull appears over his left shoulder. Subtle foreshadowing at it's finest. Every detail (well almost) was carefully selected by the production crew of BWE. Dialogue, sets, music, even back ground......
Sounds awesome but these guys were enforcers they did not have political clout or big business brains to dream up the world in which they wanted to create.
Just to bad Jimmy was a dummy! Lost it all over 5 grand and acting like he earned his street stripes the long way although he was just a baby in that life
Kinda out the blue here but does anyone else at 4:19 feel like that guy could seriously have been a brother of Al Capone? I mean my goodness, crazy similarities they both have. Obviously, this is strictly IMO 👉🏾😉👈🏻
Maybe in real life but on this show, Lucky Luciano went under Joe Masseria while Arnold Rothstein's still alive. He let Joe have em because Arnold couldn't control him anymore and saw that his potential was reached in his eyes.
Lansky: 🗣 We already pay half the take of that game to you. Rothstein: 🗣 Yes, and now you boys know why!!! Translation: 👉🏽 You guys pay me half because I’ve already been paying Mr. Masseria “Under The Table Money” Privilege from the start. The extra 10% is coming out of your pockets to him directly now while I’ll still be paying him on the DL (Down Low) moving forward. So honestly, you should be kissing the ground I walk on.🔥🔥🔥 I Absolutely love the subtle nuances of this show. After The Sopranos, The Wire, and Breaking Bad this show, Boardwalk Empire, is the best series ever made. PERIOD CASE CLOSED!!!
Joaquín Enríquez Breaking Bad is so bad??? Seriously Brotha, but hey if that’s your opinion I can’t get mad about it. I Respect it!!! But man, Breaking Bad IMO is an awesome series
You've got it a bit backwards though. At this point, Masseria and many other high up Italians were customers of Rothstein, not the other way around. They were the ones effectively paying Rothstein, who offered services to them, chiefly financing. Lucky and Lanksy paid AR for protection the way many others paid Masseria for protection, but AR didn't pay Masseria shit. It was the business relationship between AR and Masseria which was so valuable to Masseria that, as a courtesy, before killing Lucky and Lansky, he would first reach out and see if AR objected. Now you see why they paid AR. Otherwise they never would have been swiftly murdered without even seeing it coming.
Rothstein looked down on anyone who so much as used a double negative and was pretty vocal about it, Masseria talked like Kevin from the office in the episode where he invents his own language and Rothstein did not for a second fuck around with him, dude was serious lol
So much to unpack. Joe the Boss probably signed his own death warrant sneering at Luciano like that. He just had to wait the better part of a decade for the sentence to get carried out.
One translation was bad. When Joe the boss says “I’m watching you boy” the real translation is “Don’t break my dick, boy”. Sicilian is my second language.
"I have no quarrel with you, sir" Now you're not feeling so stud-ish as you use to feel, uh Owen, now that a proper enforcer as Richard Harrow is pointing a gun at you?
Lmao AR new dam well what card game he was talking about lmao I loved this show this scene is so great all actors are great joe da boss is a great actor .oh I guess they stab there selves
This is a superb show however all the violence does turn my stomach. I now have some understanding about possibly why both Rothstein & especially Joe Masseria went down. Meyer & Luciano were tired of paying a tax to those two other gangsters. Great acting in this scene.
I loved the way Luciano is portrayed on this show. From all that I've heard from past historians of organized crime, Charles "Lucky" Luciano was a man that feared no one and had balls of Steel. He's doing a great job in this scene and especially the later years moving forward.
TheRealist 811 that’s true too, I do think this show does kinda soften Luciano up just a tad. Not a lot by all means because outside of the police, no one really f’ed with him. But let’s be honest, dude killed a lot of people, like IN REAL LIFE!! And that’s documented and facts. I don’t remember a scene where he killed anyone outside of ordering a bunch of hits.
@TheRealist 811 I see it as character development and a way to teach ppl that you can go from hot head to businessman
@@eleanramirez2447 but he was never a hothead
The way he stood up when masseria told him he was watching him
@@caisersoze2003 yeah.....the way the actor stood up to the other actor just as the director told him to, amazing
Rothstein getting half the take on a game he pretended not to know about 😂
Tremendous chutzpah
he makes 10% sound so reasonable when we dont know he already gets 50
Rothstein is such a fascinating person it’s almost weird😂😂😂guy was something else. Love how his personality was portrayed in this show, I feel they got a lot right. You can definitely tell very little people in that lifestyle was as level headed as he was.
Creeping around… like a fucking Dentist with an Either.
And now you boys know why
"Yes, and now you know why."
Arnold Rothstein basically saved their lives here. I loved the writing on this show.
“Yes, and you 𝕓𝕠𝕪𝕤 know why.”
Telling them that they were over their heads and too soon.
Hes just keeping them below him
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 because they mess up or want to act to soon.
@@jdgustofwinddance.7748 nah its just hating bro, the fear of your student succeeding you
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 spoken like a true dilettante.
NO CONSEEDUHS! EES MINE!
I love how Joe is only friendly with Rothstein when it's a chance to complain about Charlie
Or cheat him out of the heroin business.
"Yes, and now you boys know why" soooo goooood, love Arnold
What does he mean by that?
@@terranceaddison4599 When problems like this come up, he handles it, if it wasn't for him, these two kids would be dead.
@@ChueyiCha like an insurance policy
He’s the problem solver
AR is a fucking brain lol love this guy and hate him at the same time Micheal Stulhbarg nailed this dude man
The only dude to pull out a gun on harrow and not get killed by harrow..
And he got whacked by Maseria coz those 2 start-trouble-from-ten-year-old pricks at the beginning.
@@BacktoAzn thats a damn shame. He was my favorite character
@Shapiro Shekelberg he'd shit you out like yesterday's sausage
Who?
He still ended up in a wooden crate. Special delivery.
I *love* the tense portrait of mutual respect between Owen and Richard in this scene. Amazing performances both.
I love how at 0:30 the waiter goes into the room stops and turns in mid-walk right back around when Luciano looked at them. That’s funny lol 😄 😂
I’ve watched this series a handful of times and never picked up on that. The tells of a great series.
Ivo Nandi has an amazing screen presence. His depiction of Joe Masseria was boss! This scene has the best four characters on Boardwalk. Anatol Yusef, to say he’s English does an awesome Brooklyn accent.
I loved Vincent Piazza’s acting in this show. It’s shame I haven’t seen anything from him since.
I admit he do do good in this show. But it was hard for me at first to take him serious in this roll. After seeing him as AJ's friend in the sopranos. He was just a lil wanna be tough guy. But he did good here.
@@robsancho3978 - Hey, that bakery boy who Christopher shot in the foot became a prohibition agent in Boardwalk Empire that Eli killed in his living room! From little acorns, eh? LOL!
@@freddybeer the same dude played in Chicago PD also.
@@robsancho3978 yup and he was in jarhead
Vincent has a regular role in Tulsa King with Sylvester Stallone
AR was a genius. Basically fathered organized crime. Lucky Luciano himself was quoted in saying he learned everything from Arnold Rothstein...he was shot over a poker game I believe and on his death bed he refused to say who shot him. I kind of wished they showed his demise. Michael Stuhlbarg did an amazing job portraying his quiet genius and sort of elegant approach. Even threatening someone with death, he did it in the most respectful and well mannered way. 😂😂
Wow didn’t know that happened to him in real life. I think it was either said outright or implicated in the show that Lansky set up the hit
He wasn't called The Brain for nothing
@@theSuperviLLain_est It was neither said nor implicated, they just made a reference to Rothstein's passing when Lanksy runs into Nucky down in Havana. The hit Lansky set up was the failed hit on Nucky while he was in Cuba. Killing Rothstein offscreen was a shame but i understood why due to the time skip in season 5.
The character of AR was portrayed as so eloquent and level headed. A businessman first and gangster second.
and dead below the waste as a third
@@deathrager2404 and creepy doctor with the ether as a fourth.
@@Shyhalu dentist*
AWESOMENESS
He was never a gangster really
So many awesome lines in this scene but my fav is definitely “on my streets no coincidences”
I love how everybody was ready to throw fight in this show. Lucky got up fast asf ready to punch his superior 😂
Masseria wasn't Luckys superior at the time. He worked for Rothstein in his early years.
@@whoknows4379 He still ran the territory Luciano and Lansky operated in.
@@tedof87 Correct, meaning he got a percentage of their take. Its a percentage to operate. Not bc they work for him.
@@whoknows4379 false
@@JayBeenCrippin No, its not. Its an easily verifiable fact. Lucky worked for Rothstein long before he worked for Masseria, and then eventually Maranzano. Again, factually, you are wrong.
0:29 lol. That waiter gets the F out of there so fast. He knows his place!
😂😂😂
Richard could've killed him three times before he drew even once! "Why didn't you shoot me?" "I may yet!" Classic.
Every time gangsters in movies talk percentages I always wonder how they know how much that will be. Do they have their own accountant auditing the books too haha
Ivo Nandi did an amazing job playing Joe Mazzeria
I had a friend from Naples in London, who spoke English just like Joe
He even looked a bit like him. He was ex boxer called Tomasino
A sicilian guy portraying a sicilian boss
@@syariefdirgantara7670 He's got a range to him. He's played Russians and Mexicans.
he would have no problem looking like a dominican.
Most intimidating character in this show
I wish they did more with the guy that walks out with AR. He was my favorite character in the show.
Wrong comment section
@@serchizm Yep lol
Luciano glaring at Maseria @ 2:04....cut away to Maseria @ 2:06. Painting behind him. Skull appears over his left shoulder. Subtle foreshadowing at it's finest. Every detail (well almost) was carefully selected by the production crew of BWE. Dialogue, sets, music, even back ground......
AR’s answers that have double meanings in this show are top notch. The guy who plays him is amazing
Man these scenes are gold, i am watching them all
Mexican standoff between those two was pretty cool.
Correction: Italian standoff
How dumb you must be to think they are mexicans 🤣
“What are you doing with these Christ-Killers?”
Joe the Boss was Based
Wasn't it the Romans that killed him? So it would be the Italians, right? Also, wasn't Christ Jewish?
@@richpryor9650 The Romans killed Jesus because the Jews wanted them to.
@@jltcuba basically what the romans did on behalf of the jews is what the americans do on behalf of israel today
Masseria was cast brilliantly, knew a lot of the same ginzaloons back in Brooklyn like him.
Does anyone else feel that Owen was in the same role to Boardwalk Empire as Furio Giunta was in the Sopranos? Both characters are eerily similar.
Right down to having a thing for the boss's wife.
Give me one thousand cases of armagnac
@@MrDEFJAMJOHNNY lol
You have a bee on your rum
Exactly Furio didn’t get shipped in a box
NO “CONSIDERS!”
Is mine.
-Joe Masseria
Lmao
"We do operate a game that might be considered a grey area of territorially "
“ah, they stab themselve UH?”
Joe the boss reminds me of a big kid is mine LOLOL
The king has spoken
I'm gonna use it.
I love the way Owen says "Of course you don't this is America" immediately before heading butting that guy.
Headbutting *
@@ciaranfox2925 yeah autocorrect got me there, thanks
Trust me you will. Season 3 is set in 1923 and that's when Luciano started his early rise into power. Same with Capone in Chicago.
AR hiding behind he's desk while luckys out there in the world
0:33 when you argue the money that fell on the ground is yours.
10/10 comment
" I may yet." Harrow has some cold lines.
Pulls out a revolver: FX The slide on an automatic pistol being drawn back. Well done HBO
Meyer "shut up Lucky, that's Joe the BOSS"!
“Christ-killers,” that’s a good one.
@fantasticmoose Chill, jew.
@fantasticmoose That's the problems with you jews and lefties, you think that only nazi's can't stand you. You are overall unbearable snowflakes.
fantasticmoose fuck off mate
@fantasticmoose Angry...
@fantasticmoose 3 months later.....nice words kid
Lol "what are you doing with these Christ killers?"
I always love Mr. Harrow
“I may yet....”
"What are you doing with these Christ-Killers" 😂
Un Joven Lucky Luciano practicamente un Jovensito encarando a un JEFE de la Mafia y sin una pisca de miedo
Lucky still had to go back and do business with the man in order to wise up to Italian ways
Owen and Richard teaming up
They had respect for each other. They were both doing the same job, just for different teams.
Sounds awesome but these guys were enforcers they did not have political clout or big business brains to dream up the world in which they wanted to create.
I've been saying "I may yet..." ever since viewing this episode.
OWEN'S IN THE BOX
😰
Ivo Nandi was such a great Joe " The Boss"
Rothstein = boss of all bosses
@idoTyler most real bosses do
No. Its Lucky Luciano.
😂 no 😐
Richard Harrow is one hellava enforcer for Darmoty
Just to bad Jimmy was a dummy! Lost it all over 5 grand and acting like he earned his street stripes the long way although he was just a baby in that life
Let me come work at the smoke shop
Owen literally came so close to dying here he didn't even know it
Kinda out the blue here but does anyone else at 4:19 feel like that guy could seriously have been a brother of Al Capone? I mean my goodness, crazy similarities they both have. Obviously, this is strictly IMO 👉🏾😉👈🏻
1930s and 20s was a great time to sell liquor,in the 40sand 50s it was already legal.
Instead of $10 for a bottle,it was $1 after the prohibition
"I May Yet."
Luciano doesn't go under Joe The Boss until A.R dies.. You know Luciano kills Masseria
Who didn't know basic history
Eightys Baby87 adjust yr attitude and try entering again.
Maybe in real life but on this show, Lucky Luciano went under Joe Masseria while Arnold Rothstein's still alive. He let Joe have em because Arnold couldn't control him anymore and saw that his potential was reached in his eyes.
“I don’t take orders from no fucking patty, even tho my boss that I’m working for is a Darmody!”
No fkn 'paddy' not patty unless that was an auto correct.
@@jonathan2755 yes, paddy is the correct one..raw garlic has great nutritional benefits btw
@@demam41 good to know I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm calling someone a paddy.
@@jonathan2755 that’s ma boy! 🍻
@@demam41 😜
1:00 that look Lanksy and Luciano give each other. They're probably both thinking Jimmy is the guilty one.
Imagine if them Owen and harrow teamed up
Owen, Harrow, and Darmody would make an incredible team.
not considers..its mine!
Lansky: 🗣 We already pay half the take of that game to you.
Rothstein: 🗣 Yes, and now you boys know why!!!
Translation: 👉🏽 You guys pay me half because I’ve already been paying Mr. Masseria “Under The Table Money” Privilege from the start. The extra 10% is coming out of your pockets to him directly now while I’ll still be paying him on the DL (Down Low) moving forward. So honestly, you should be kissing the ground I walk on.🔥🔥🔥
I Absolutely love the subtle nuances of this show. After The Sopranos, The Wire, and Breaking Bad this show, Boardwalk Empire, is the best series ever made. PERIOD CASE CLOSED!!!
Case close
Breaking Bad is so bad. The others, I can see.
Joaquín Enríquez Breaking Bad is so bad??? Seriously Brotha, but hey if that’s your opinion I can’t get mad about it. I Respect it!!! But man, Breaking Bad IMO is an awesome series
You've got it a bit backwards though. At this point, Masseria and many other high up Italians were customers of Rothstein, not the other way around. They were the ones effectively paying Rothstein, who offered services to them, chiefly financing.
Lucky and Lanksy paid AR for protection the way many others paid Masseria for protection, but AR didn't pay Masseria shit. It was the business relationship between AR and Masseria which was so valuable to Masseria that, as a courtesy, before killing Lucky and Lansky, he would first reach out and see if AR objected. Now you see why they paid AR. Otherwise they never would have been swiftly murdered without even seeing it coming.
And they really had no reason to whine anyhow, a card game has zero overhead, it's all profit, so paying 60% to stay alive ain't a bad deal
I like the actor that plays Masseria , he looks from that era
Luciano lives in a fantasy world where you can screw people over with repercussions.
To be fair, this was better than the Sopranos
I love this show but that's ludicrous Lol
He gets money for selling a nickel bag ,$3 out of every nick.thats a real gangster boss
Joe Masseria never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Great reference!
Small hands that’s his problem
Rothstein looked down on anyone who so much as used a double negative and was pretty vocal about it, Masseria talked like Kevin from the office in the episode where he invents his own language and Rothstein did not for a second fuck around with him, dude was serious lol
So much to unpack. Joe the Boss probably signed his own death warrant sneering at Luciano like that. He just had to wait the better part of a decade for the sentence to get carried out.
Like many of the "mustache petes" of that time, they were greedy
you're prolly right, i didn't think about it as him correcting arnold.
Plot twist...AR is fluent in Italian
Well played Arnold he saved Charlie’s ass here. Charlie not happy with the new tax
It's sad to see such a brilliant actor that plays Lucky Luciano now play some loser in Tulsa King.
EVERYBODY GOT GUNS!
That accent is brutal
Woried about his nephews but kills his own cousins.
He just used their deaths as an excuse to get more money out of this meeting.
MobHeataEnt the Italian way. 😉
@TheNikolatesla34 yes they were trying to rob him
For talking about family the whole day, mobsters don't value the lifes of nephews that high.
It was great show that ended too abruptly
Great scene
One translation was bad. When Joe the boss says “I’m watching you boy” the real translation is “Don’t break my dick, boy”. Sicilian is my second language.
Charlie Cox showing his daredevil skills just briefly and we all here for it
this is before he was cast as Daredevil
"Why'd you not shoot me?"
"I may yet."
Would have been great of one of the “zoo zoos” starting speaking Italian.
one episode htey can't get liquor.........then they got to much...........then they can't buy any...............make up your mind
"I have no quarrel with you, sir" Now you're not feeling so stud-ish as you use to feel, uh Owen, now that a proper enforcer as Richard Harrow is pointing a gun at you?
NO CONSIDERS, IS MINE!
I didn't know Charlie Cox was in the show
my fav show, only disappointing thing in it is that joe dies on hand of a street gangsta.... AR was the best of them all
Arnold Rothstein and Ramsay Bolton from GOT are pretty much the same vibe.
Lmao AR new dam well what card game he was talking about lmao I loved this show this scene is so great all actors are great joe da boss is a great actor .oh I guess they stab there selves
That looks like the same restaurant where Tony curb stomped Coco's head.
Lucky's hand shaking
2:37 Don’t give me your Fuckin Manson Lamps
Daredevil!!
Its the acting not the talking...ok some of the talking
John Travolta needed a bit part moving liquor from the back of a truck???
1:43 will never not be hilarious
Had to beat on the working men
2000 dollars in the 1920’s was equivalent to about 27,000 dollars in 2020 so seems like they got off light on that one
Cheryl Lynne haha good point
no considers is mine I like that line
Con otro mano entra ma zacceta
No considers..IS MINE! lol
This is a superb show however all the violence does turn my stomach. I now have some understanding about possibly why both Rothstein & especially Joe Masseria went down. Meyer & Luciano were tired of paying a tax to those two other gangsters. Great acting in this scene.